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Title: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2011, 04:30:14 AM
As all of you know, I am a huge fan of metal, prog, death metal etc. but one of my weak spots is classic melodic rock and/or AOR.  I know there are a few guys on here that enjoy this sort of music so I wanted to make a thread out of it, as I think it deserves some more attention.  Mainly, I wanted to reccommend 2 outstanding releases that have come out this year that will make my top 5 albums of the year.


Toby Hitchcock - Mercury's Down

(https://www.freecodesource.com/album-cover/51AtH0F9EZL/Toby-Hitchcock-Mercury%27s-Down.jpg)

This is the debut solo album from Pride of Lions singer Toby Hitchcock.  Every song is written and performed by Erik Martensson from the amazing WET project as well as Eclipse.  Every song is melodic rock goodness with great guitar work, catchy chorus' and amazing production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6yMQmSMmXk


Work of Art - In Progress

(https://www.webofmetal.com/images/products/in-progress-work-of-art/in-progress-work-of-art.jpg?1315013677)

Second album from these guys.  Features Robert Sall from the WET project also.  This is more classic, Toto inspired music but has brilliant vocals, stunning guitars and just great hooks and keyboards too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IVY-0AFU_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC2Ien6OGiw

I urge anyone remotely interested in this style of music to check out both of these albums. 

Anyone that wants to discuss bands like; Danger Danger, House of Lords, Pride of Lions, Allen/Lande, Last Tribe, Hardline, Sunstorm, Pink Cream 69, Giant, Ten, Magnum etc, knock yourself out.

(I know this won't get many hits) :)

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 10, 2011, 04:46:41 AM
This thread will interest me. :tup
I've been trying to get into more AOR recently, although a lot of it sounds kind of same-y to me. I believe I've checked out stuff from both of those albums before, and they didn't interest me. Allen/Lande didn't live up to my expectations either.

I really enjoy Stan Bush's last two albums. Dream the Dream isn't as good as In This Life, but they've both got some great melodic rock tracks. Journey - Revelation is also another of my recent favourites.
Aside from that, it's just the odd album and track here and there.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on November 10, 2011, 05:37:55 AM
If you don't know about this website you may like it.  Try it out.


melodicrock.com
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 10, 2011, 05:40:33 AM
I don't really like the site, but I've used it often just to keep up with what's out there. but it's dreadfully laid out, and any album that's even half ok gets a glowing review.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Jirpo on November 10, 2011, 06:24:02 AM
I love your music tastes Wolf, so I'll check it out :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 10, 2011, 06:48:13 AM
Following for sure.  I love Melodic/AOR rock.  Really, I'm not sure how it got it's own genre, but I guess it's like mini-prog... all the creativity, talent, tempo changes, harmonizations etc... but usually omitting the crazy instrumental sections that produce 10+ minute songs.

I just stumbled on to  melodicrock.com recently.  Fell exactly as Blob - good for news and ideas, but the layout is horrendous.

My recommendation ... check out Harem Scarem.  Mood Swings is my favorite, but Weight of the World and Higher are pretty good.  They had a couple of experimental albums (ie, diverging a little from a typical Melodic sound), so I'd start with these.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 10, 2011, 05:45:16 PM
I'm a big fan; you could spend hours on youtube just finding rare and obsure 80's AOR bands.  Harem Scarem "Mood Swings" is one of my favorite Canadian rock albums.  Other bands of this genre that stand out to be are House of Lords, Pretty Maids, Allen/Lande, Zebra.  There are discs from Y&T, TNT and Angel that can fall under this category too.   
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 10, 2011, 07:32:41 PM
I had a go with Work of Art today, and Wolf, you too are on my "curse you" list.  :evilmonkey:

It was awesome, and I knew it right from the very first chord of The Rain.  Now I have another band (and their discography) to check out.  Thankfully, it's only two discs.  But seriously, stop it.  I can't handle too many more new bands.   :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2011, 07:42:57 PM
Following for sure.  I love Melodic/AOR rock.  Really, I'm not sure how it got it's own genre, but I guess it's like mini-prog... all the creativity, talent, tempo changes, harmonizations etc... but usually omitting the crazy instrumental sections that produce 10+ minute songs.

I just stumbled on to  melodicrock.com recently.  Fell exactly as Blob - good for news and ideas, but the layout is horrendous.

My recommendation ... check out Harem Scarem.  Mood Swings is my favorite, but Weight of the World and Higher are pretty good.  They had a couple of experimental albums (ie, diverging a little from a typical Melodic sound), so I'd start with these.

Harem Scarem are pretty good, but I need to check out more of their albums.  Love Harry Hess' voice. Check out his latest frontiers project called First Signal, really great album.

I'm a big fan; you could spend hours on youtube just finding rare and obsure 80's AOR bands.  Harem Scarem "Mood Swings" is one of my favorite Canadian rock albums.  Other bands of this genre that stand out to be are House of Lords, Pretty Maids, Allen/Lande, Zebra.  There are discs from Y&T, TNT and Angel that can fall under this category too.   

I still need to check out Zebra and Angel.  TNT, Y&T, House of Lords, Allen/Lande and Pretty Maids are all amazing.

Pandemonium from Pretty Maids was an amazing album that came out last year.  Great heaviness but every song has a killer hook, I reccomend that one too.


I had a go with Work of Art today, and Wolf, you too are on my "curse you" list.  :evilmonkey:

It was awesome, and I knew it right from the very first chord of The Rain.  Now I have another band (and their discography) to check out.  Thankfully, it's only two discs.  But seriously, stop it.  I can't handle too many more new bands.   :lol

Great, I'm cool being on your curse list.  :lol  Both albums are just perfect for anyone slightly interested in the genre.  Rain is IMO, the perfect melodic rock song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 10, 2011, 08:09:27 PM
Wolf, you are the king of metal/rock so you must check out Zebra and Angel.  How about Steelheart, Honeymoon Suite, Thunder or Alias, do you like any of those bands?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2011, 08:35:28 PM
Wolf, you are the king of metal/rock so you must check out Zebra and Angel.  How about Steelheart, Honeymoon Suite, Thunder or Alias, do you like any of those bands?

Steelheart and Thunder are pretty damn good, but I am unaware of the others too, I think you take the crown my friend.  Looks like I have a lot of work to do.  I might post a big list of my fav AOR bands later, I'm sure there's heaps I'm missing.  :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: T-ski on November 10, 2011, 08:52:09 PM
If you don't know about this website you may like it.  Try it out.


melodicrock.com

funny story....a local radio station was reporting on some Van Halen news months back and credited Melodicrock.com with the story.  Problem is, he pronounced it "Melodi Crock.com".  DJ fail.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 11, 2011, 10:51:02 AM
Wolf, if you ever have time to post a big list of your top AOR bands that would be great.  Would give me a chance to do more research and discover further bands.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 11, 2011, 02:56:57 PM
Ahh, somewhere I can feel at home on DTF (other than the DT discussion of course). I'll certainly second the recommendation for Harem Scarem but as I never got into them back in the day Mood Swings isn't the be all end all for me. eight Of The World, Higher and Overload are all great albums.

I'll highlight a couple of recent-ish (last couple of years) releases that deserve recognition.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-heZ6TXg69YE/TdFlFLUdqcI/AAAAAAAAFjE/HNKHefVCifE/s320/june17.JPG)

A real fan pleaser of an album. Queensryche please take note!

And

(https://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/51LE9PahX7L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 11, 2011, 03:24:42 PM
Is that the same Sister Christian Night Ranger?

I think Mood Swings might have been the 'be-all-and-end-all' back in the day because Voice of Reason was such a drop off.  It wasn't until recently that I got re-connected with their discography.  My wife actually knew Pete and Harry, and toured around with them (guess you could call her a groupie  :lol)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 11, 2011, 04:19:08 PM
I've heard alot of good things about the new Night Ranger
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Jaq on November 11, 2011, 11:56:13 PM
I don't really like the site, but I've used it often just to keep up with what's out there. but it's dreadfully laid out, and any album that's even half ok gets a glowing review.

I remember when the guy who runs that site gave a negative review to a Def Leppard album and then got into a pissing contest with Joe Elliott about it. The ONLY time I've not seen the guy rate an album like it was the second coming.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: B_Hammock on November 12, 2011, 01:10:45 AM
I'm a big fan of Journey, apart from them there isn't that many melodic rock bands I'm that into, although Dare's "Out of the Silence" album is fantastic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jsem on November 12, 2011, 04:50:54 AM
These album covers look epic, needa check them out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2011, 03:07:10 AM
Ahh, somewhere I can feel at home on DTF (other than the DT discussion of course). I'll certainly second the recommendation for Harem Scarem but as I never got into them back in the day Mood Swings isn't the be all end all for me. eight Of The World, Higher and Overload are all great albums.

I'll highlight a couple of recent-ish (last couple of years) releases that deserve recognition.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-heZ6TXg69YE/TdFlFLUdqcI/AAAAAAAAFjE/HNKHefVCifE/s320/june17.JPG)

A real fan pleaser of an album. Queensryche please take note!

And

(https://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/51LE9PahX7L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Got the new Nightranger a couple of weeks back, had a couple of spins only, but really, really solid record.  That Treat album is amazing, and one of the best albums that came out last year.  Killer records Lowdz.  Here's another one of my favs;

(https://www.rockrealms.com/assets/interrogationpics/jss3.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 13, 2011, 04:35:07 AM
WET is a quality album- can't go wrong with Jeff Scott Soto singing.

Going back in time, these are essential

(https://s49.radikal.ru/i126/1007/42/424c407af4a2.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b1/Kane_Roberts_-_Saints_and_Sinners.jpg/220px-Kane_Roberts_-_Saints_and_Sinners.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9f/Dokken_-_Back_for_the_Attack.jpg/220px-Dokken_-_Back_for_the_Attack.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2011, 07:30:16 AM
Ya know, it's weird... back in the 80s, what is now 'melodic rock' was called "glam", and then chastised in the 90s.  Blood on the Bricks is a great album.  Same with a lot of other albums from other supposed 'glam' bands like Damn Yankees, Mr. Big, Extreme etc... 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 13, 2011, 10:41:27 AM
I think the stretch of Breaking the Chains to Back for the Attack from Dokken is one of the best run of discs by any band.  Those discs pretty much symbolize the 80's hair metal genre.  I only have a best of for Aldo Nova, but enjoy all the songs.  Steel Panther covered Fantasy last year and it was great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 13, 2011, 01:20:26 PM
Most of Aldo's 80s stuff sounds so dated (those drums! yuk.) but Blood On the Bricks was a great album. He plays some excellent guitar as well.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2011, 09:23:16 PM
Not familiar with Aldo Nova either, and I thought I knew a lot about AOR.  :lol  Will have to check that one out too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2011, 06:15:33 AM
The ultimate 80's melodic AOR album! I loved it..and still do!

(https://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLPvInSjDIFc8KQ__CeY2kxqkpu94GoGB13w0jG5MQF7uIKl-W)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 14, 2011, 01:04:43 PM
OK, time to bring out the big guns...

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a8/Europe-prisoners_in_paradise.jpg/220px-Europe-prisoners_in_paradise.jpg)

If all you know is The Final Countdown, this will convince you these guys are awesome. Needs a remaster now!

(https://www.musicobsession.com/Pictures/d/a/dangerdanger362920.jpg)

Some people prefer the first album which has a more 80s AOR sound but I prefer this more Melodic Rock approach. And Andy Timmons on guitar. Lyrics are a bit "Steel Panther" but some gold on here. Their last album, Revolve, is a killer too.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 14, 2011, 01:27:32 PM
It's a shame that Europe is only known for the final countdown and carrie
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 14, 2011, 01:41:56 PM
The ultimate 80's melodic AOR album! I loved it..and still do!

(https://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLPvInSjDIFc8KQ__CeY2kxqkpu94GoGB13w0jG5MQF7uIKl-W)

With the awesome cover of Cliff Richard's Devil Woman.
The guitarist passed away a couple of weeks ago, and they had just released a very good album too, without the original singer though.


Just remembered a couple of other albums that must be mentioned in this thread...
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Zp2qe8M0J04/TpLdo-lqrII/AAAAAAAANbA/pHCphktaBUE/s320/30550.jpg)


with th excellent Dan Huff on guitar and vocals, and

(https://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/3a1e14a2250a25cd04c4687fab7bf613/20565.jpg)

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 14, 2011, 02:41:56 PM
How about Lynch Mob and Blue Murder.  Not sure if they completely fall in the aor genre, but great bands non the less.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 14, 2011, 02:52:05 PM
How about Lynch Mob and Blue Murder.  Not sure if they completely fall in the aor genre, but great bands non the less.

First two Lynch Mob albums and the 1st Blue Murder, certainly. MP's collaboration with John Sykes is probably his only project I have any interest in.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 14, 2011, 04:11:59 PM
OK, time to bring out the big guns...

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a8/Europe-prisoners_in_paradise.jpg/220px-Europe-prisoners_in_paradise.jpg)

If all you know is The Final Countdown, this will convince you these guys are awesome. Needs a remaster now!

(https://www.musicobsession.com/Pictures/d/a/dangerdanger362920.jpg)

Some people prefer the first album which has a more 80s AOR sound but I prefer this more Melodic Rock approach. And Andy Timmons on guitar. Lyrics are a bit "Steel Panther" but some gold on here. Their last album, Revolve, is a killer too.

I can't believe you posted both of these simultaneously.  I bought both at the same time, on a whim (I'd never heard of Danger Danger, and only knew The Final Countdown from Europe), while on a road-trip in Boston (bunch of guys just got in a car and drove 9 hours for shits and giggles), and they are both fantastic albums.  It's the only DD I have, so I guess I have to check out some more.

Just wierd that you posted them both.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2011, 05:15:42 PM
I am one of those guys that prefer the debut to Screw It.  Revolve though is one of the best melodic rock albums I've ever heard.  It's close to perfect.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2011, 03:44:35 PM
I am one of those guys that prefer the debut to Screw It.  Revolve though is one of the best melodic rock albums I've ever heard.  It's close to perfect.

Yeah, agree about Revolve. The only track that isn't awesome for me is the opener.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2011, 03:47:56 PM
I am one of those guys that prefer the debut to Screw It.  Revolve though is one of the best melodic rock albums I've ever heard.  It's close to perfect.

Yeah, agree about Revolve. The only track that isn't awesome for me is the opener.
What band are you guys talking about? :laugh:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2011, 03:48:20 PM
That sounds like a great road trip Jingle.Boy. Two great albums. The only time I remember buying two cds at once that blew me away were Dokken's Back For The Attack and Joe Satriani's Surfing With The Alien. That was a great day.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2011, 03:49:16 PM
I am one of those guys that prefer the debut to Screw It.  Revolve though is one of the best melodic rock albums I've ever heard.  It's close to perfect.

Yeah, agree about Revolve. The only track that isn't awesome for me is the opener.
What band are you guys talking about? :laugh:

Danger Danger.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2011, 04:12:41 PM
That sounds like a great road trip Jingle.Boy. Two great albums. The only time I remember buying two cds at once that blew me away were Dokken's Back For The Attack and Joe Satriani's Surfing With The Alien. That was a great day.
For some reason, I always bought tapes in pairs. Stil remember coming home with Iron Maiden's Piece Of Mind and Riot's Narita on one Spring day in 1983.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2011, 04:35:06 PM
I am one of those guys that prefer the debut to Screw It.  Revolve though is one of the best melodic rock albums I've ever heard.  It's close to perfect.

Yeah, agree about Revolve. The only track that isn't awesome for me is the opener.
What band are you guys talking about? :laugh:

Danger Danger  :dangerwillrobinson:   :lol

Edit ... whoops, forgot to follow thru to page 2 before replying.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2011, 04:46:41 PM
That sounds like a great road trip Jingle.Boy. Two great albums. The only time I remember buying two cds at once that blew me away were Dokken's Back For The Attack and Joe Satriani's Surfing With The Alien. That was a great day.

there was a lot more that I 'hauled' on that road trip.  Right Here, Right Now (VH), Unboxed (Sammy Hagar), Out of This World (Europe), I think I got that Aldo Nova CD then too, Rockhead, Magnet to Steel (Crissy Steele), Exposed (Vince Neil), In the Heart of the Young (Winger).  I have no idea why I remember what CD's I got that weekend.  I thought there was more that I didn't remember (ie, hammered and hungover)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on November 15, 2011, 10:58:59 PM
Anyone check out The Magnificent yet?

(https://www.frontiers.it/m/uploads/photos/the_magnificent_cover.jpg)

This album is amazing and my album of the year. Right now Russell Allen and Michael Eriksen are battling it out for my favorite vocalist.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2011, 11:09:03 PM
I am one of those guys that prefer the debut to Screw It.  Revolve though is one of the best melodic rock albums I've ever heard.  It's close to perfect.

Yeah, agree about Revolve. The only track that isn't awesome for me is the opener.
What band are you guys talking about? :laugh:

Danger Danger  :dangerwillrobinson:   :lol

Edit ... whoops, forgot to follow thru to page 2 before replying.

I'm pretty sure TAC was making a joke as the first song is titled, 'That's What I'm Talking About.'  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2011, 11:11:09 PM
Anyone check out The Magnificent yet?

(https://www.frontiers.it/m/uploads/photos/the_magnificent_cover.jpg)

This album is amazing and my album of the year. Right now Russell Allen and Michael Eriksen are battling it out for my favorite vocalist.

Album of the year Zook??!!  I only made you aware of this a few days ago.  :tup  I better hurry up and order this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: KevShmev on November 15, 2011, 11:19:39 PM
Damn Yankees were short-lived, but great.  The debut was good, and the second album, Don't Tread, is one helluva hard rock album.  Silence is Broken has one of my favorite solo sections of all-time. Ted Nugent's solo is terrific, and the acoustic lead Tommy Shaw plays underneath it is one of the coolest things ever. :coolio
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on November 15, 2011, 11:50:27 PM
Anyone check out The Magnificent yet?

This album is amazing and my album of the year. Right now Russell Allen and Michael Eriksen are battling it out for my favorite vocalist.

Album of the year Zook??!!  I only made you aware of this a few days ago.  :tup  I better hurry up and order this.

Hell yeah, it's that good. I traded a bunch of stuff in at Zia just to get this. I needed it. If you haven't heard any of it yet, the best I can describe it is Whitesnake meets Bon Jovi, but with minimal to no cheese. Just infection melodies, solid music, and an incredible performance by Michael Eriksen. My next CD purchase was supposed to be This Mortal Coil, but thanks to you, I now own this wonderful CD.

Also, if any one you like Annette's (new Nightwish singer) voice, check out her old band Alyson Avenue. They also capture that 80s sound extremely well. Think Pat Benatar meets 80s Heart.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2011, 11:58:30 PM
Great that's made such a good impression, I'm sure I'll love it.  Will order ASAP.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 16, 2011, 03:44:18 AM
Yeah Damn Yankees was a great band, too bad they didnt stick around longer.  Never heard of The Magnificent, but just checked out the samples on Amazon; sounds awesome.  This is a great thread.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2011, 06:41:30 AM
Both DY discs are fantastic (I don't think they did more than two???).  Let's, see, what else can I pull from the vault ... White Lion?  Too much glam?  Either way, Vito Bratta was one helluva guitar player.  They had some standout tracks, but they also had a few whiffs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on November 16, 2011, 07:29:01 AM
Both DY discs are fantastic (I don't think they did more than two???).  Let's, see, what else can I pull from the vault ... White Lion?  Too much glam?  Either way, Vito Bratta was one helluva guitar player.  They had some standout tracks, but they also had a few whiffs.

There is a 3rd DY's album in the vault that they recorded a few years ago.  I hope they release it.

Also White Lion was great.  Loved Vito as a guitar player.  I've allways loved and TAC knows this, Stone Fury.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hynC3Fawhwo
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 16, 2011, 10:49:52 AM
Yeah Damn Yankees was a great band, too bad they didnt stick around longer.  Never heard of The Magnificent, but just checked out the samples on Amazon; sounds awesome.  This is a great thread.

The Magnificent is ok but it didn't hold my interest all the way through. Great performences but everything seemed a bit same-y. Will give it a few more plays.

Preferred the Steel Panther... :blush
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2011, 01:28:10 PM
Preferred the Steel Panther... :blush

Oh dear.


Speaking of White Lion, their latest album, Return of the Pride was an excellent piece of melodic rock, I really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 16, 2011, 01:38:52 PM
Both DY discs are fantastic (I don't think they did more than two???).  Let's, see, what else can I pull from the vault ... White Lion?  Too much glam?  Either way, Vito Bratta was one helluva guitar player.  They had some standout tracks, but they also had a few whiffs.

Only really liked Pride and Mane Attraction. They went too soft with the follow up to Pride, only 1-2 good tracks on Big Game.

Is it safe to mention Winger yet~? Much maligned but a great band. Pull is a great Rock album. In The Heart Of The Young is a great pop rock album (with a hint of prog/pomp- see Rainbow In The Rose, In The Heart Of The Young)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2011, 01:50:55 PM
Winger are one of my all time fav bands.  Every album IMO is quality, and such a technically amazing band, great musicians.  I'd rank the albums;

Pull
Winger
In the Heart of the Young
Karma
IV

But really every album is near the same level of quality.  Great, great band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on November 16, 2011, 01:56:17 PM
Daaaaamn Wolf, I love IV
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2011, 02:16:57 PM
Daaaaamn Wolf, I love IV

Man, so do I, I really do, great record, but as I said, all albums are absolute quality and really their rankings change from time to time.  They are all really equal in quality.  Man, just thinking about IV now, I absolutely love No Leaf Clover and The Great Escape, maybe it does deserve to be higher on the list.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 16, 2011, 05:24:03 PM
Winger is a fantastic band.  Kip Winger is a great songwriter and they are highly underated; maybe due to Bevis and Butthead.  I know wolf is a big fan of the Tony Martin era Sabbath, as I am a huge fan as well.  Just read on blabbermouth that Tony Martin and Dario Mollo will be releasing the "Third Cage" via Frontiers Records on January 24th.  They have a few samples posted.  It definetly has an AOR vibe along with Martin era Sabbath sound.  Sounds very very good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2011, 04:01:30 AM
You know, I'm ashamed to say that I haven't checked out any The Cage albums yet.  Should look into that.

Another one that I love with Tony Martin is his work with Guintini.  I only have the third album, but it's absolutely killer.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 17, 2011, 09:13:39 PM
Have you heard Rondenelli- "Our Cross, Our Sins" featuring Bobby Rondenelli, Neil Murray and Tony Martin.  If not, get it asap.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2011, 10:08:31 PM
Have you heard Rondenelli- "Our Cross, Our Sins" featuring Bobby Rondenelli, Neil Murray and Tony Martin.  If not, get it asap.

I saw that in store a couple of years ago and didn't pick it up.  When I went back it was gone.  Should get that one again.

I was watching Sabbath live in Moscow 1989 DVD last night.  Great stuff, Tony was singing quite well in his early Sabbath days.  He sounded pretty good on the Dio stuff too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 18, 2011, 08:36:06 AM
OK, must check out Rondinelli.
The Damn Yankees debut was disappointing IMO. Should've had more teeth. Didn't check out anything else after that.
Winger :facepalm: Easily the most disappointed I have EVER been in an album when I picked up their first album. Two guys from Alice Cooper's band, Rod Morganstein, and Reb Beech, and they put out the biggest piece of shit I've ever heard.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on November 18, 2011, 08:39:44 AM
Inb4 Cosmo post his TAC Winger picture. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 18, 2011, 12:46:24 PM
OK, must check out Rondinelli.
The Damn Yankees debut was disappointing IMO. Should've had more teeth. Didn't check out anything else after that.
Winger :facepalm: Easily the most disappointed I have EVER been in an album when I picked up their first album. Two guys from Alice Cooper's band, Rod Morganstein, and Reb Beech, and they put out the biggest piece of shit I've ever heard.

re Winger, Shame you started (and finished) with that one as it's easily their worst.

I enjoyed most of the 1st Damn Yankees but album no 2 was better.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2011, 02:34:04 PM
First album is killer, bitches!!

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 18, 2011, 03:02:35 PM
First album is killer, bitches!!

Some of it is.

Anyway, today's selection of Melodic Rock is

(https://www.tradebit.com/usr/mp3-album/pub/9002/379/379705/37970527.jpg)

and

(https://www.metal-archives.com/images/4/5/9/2/4592.jpg)

Not everyone's cup of tea but two of my favourites. The Keel is certainly not unanimously loved but it is chez Lowdz. And yes, that cover is incredibly sad.

and this is a desert island disc for me.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/Thunderdome-pink-cream-69.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 18, 2011, 06:40:32 PM
I've always meant to check out more of Pink Cream 69; I only checked out some of their material after being blown away by Better then Raw and wanting to check out more Andi Deris material.  What is considered Pink Cream's best album overall?  I have Hurricane"Over the Edge" and Keel "Right to Rock" and play them on a regular basis.   "I'm On To You" is one of my favorite 80's hair metal tunes.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MasterShakezula on November 19, 2011, 12:06:15 AM
I dunno whether Saxon counts as AOR, but fuck, this song's too great not to share:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNcaiIr_ZY8&feature=related (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNcaiIr_ZY8&feature=related)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 19, 2011, 04:28:01 AM
I've always meant to check out more of Pink Cream 69; I only checked out some of their material after being blown away by Better then Raw and wanting to check out more Andi Deris material.  What is considered Pink Cream's best album overall?  I have Hurricane"Over the Edge" and Keel "Right to Rock" and play them on a regular basis.   "I'm On To You" is one of my favorite 80's hair metal tunes.

For me PC69's best are Thunderdome, Electrified and In10sity. I defy anyone to listen to Shame from Electrified and not be singing it all day!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 19, 2011, 12:35:59 PM
Whats the opinion of the Allen/Lande discs.  For me, they are the quintessential modern AOR discs.  Not sure which is my favorite; if I had to pick one, it would be the first.  But they are all great.  Gotta admit though, there are certain songs that are difficult to distinguish who is singing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 19, 2011, 01:38:19 PM
Whats the opinion of the Allen/Lande discs.  For me, they are the quintessential modern AOR discs.  Not sure which is my favorite; if I had to pick one, it would be the first.  But they are all great.  Gotta admit though, there are certain songs that are difficult to distinguish who is singing.

I wouldn't call them AOR, they are a bit more Metal than that. They are good though. It's nice to hear Russell Allen on something more melodic than his day job. Magnus Karlsson's other projects are good too, especially Starbreaker with TNT's Tony Harnell. Last Tribe were a good band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 19, 2011, 08:48:05 PM
Whats the opinion of the Allen/Lande discs.  For me, they are the quintessential modern AOR discs.  Not sure which is my favorite; if I had to pick one, it would be the first.  But they are all great.  Gotta admit though, there are certain songs that are difficult to distinguish who is singing.

That's one reason why I don't like those albums much. You've got two of the biggest voices in metal today, and it just blends together and uses neither vocalist to their potential. I found the music to be pretty weak too. Too soft and same-y.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 20, 2011, 07:35:53 AM
Whats the opinion of the Allen/Lande discs.  For me, they are the quintessential modern AOR discs.  Not sure which is my favorite; if I had to pick one, it would be the first.  But they are all great.  Gotta admit though, there are certain songs that are difficult to distinguish who is singing.

Just discovered them about a monh ago, and absolutely love them. I love the blend oftwo of my favor things ... Allen and melodic rock. Never knew Lande before this. Some songs are fluffy, but that's ok. So far, The Battle is he one I like the best.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2011, 02:27:46 PM
Whats the opinion of the Allen/Lande discs.  For me, they are the quintessential modern AOR discs.  Not sure which is my favorite; if I had to pick one, it would be the first.  But they are all great.  Gotta admit though, there are certain songs that are difficult to distinguish who is singing.

I wouldn't call them AOR, they are a bit more Metal than that. They are good though. It's nice to hear Russell Allen on something more melodic than his day job. Magnus Karlsson's other projects are good too, especially Starbreaker with TNT's Tony Harnell. Last Tribe were a good band.

I am such a Karlsson fanboy.  All three Allen/Lande discs are three of my fav albums of all time, they are just absolutely perfect, especially the first one.  Everything Karlsson produces turns to gold.  Last Tribe is probably his best work IMO.  Witch's Dance and Uncrowned are perfect melodic metal discs.  Karlsson is also one of the most underrated guitarists on the scene, his chops, melodies and phrising is unmatched.  I love everything from this guys, check out;

Starbreaker
Last Tribe
Allen/Lande
The Codex
Tony O'Hora
Kiske/Sommerville
Midnight Sun
Bob Catley (Immortal)
Planet Alliance
Primal Fear/Scheepers

He also does a few solos on the new Kimball/Jamison record.  Really good AOR with songs written by Robert Sall, Richard Page, John Waite, Erik Martensson and Jim Peterik plus others.  It has Mat Sinner and Alex from Primal Fear so is basically 3 Primal Fear members doing an AOR with these two.  :lol

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6eYLvvX5u8U/TpgMkh9tzGI/AAAAAAAAOQQ/Sig59n8BYvY/s320/KimballJamison2011.jpeg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 20, 2011, 09:28:30 PM
Nice to see apprieciation for Allen/Lande; especially Wolf listing them as some of his all time favorites.  Another one of my all time favorite bands, I guess they are a little heavier then typical AOR, is Fifth Angel.  Any opinions of them?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2011, 10:24:48 PM
Nice to see apprieciation for Allen/Lande; especially Wolf listing them as some of his all time favorites.  Another one of my all time favorite bands, I guess they are a little heavier then typical AOR, is Fifth Angel.  Any opinions of them?

Never heard of them.  Reccomend me a couple of songs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wkiml on November 21, 2011, 06:45:58 AM
Nice to see apprieciation for Allen/Lande; especially Wolf listing them as some of his all time favorites.  Another one of my all time favorite bands, I guess they are a little heavier then typical AOR, is Fifth Angel.  Any opinions of them?

Never heard of them.  Reccomend me a couple of songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieLSQujmyhk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNHl9bswEeE
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 21, 2011, 09:57:41 AM
Fifth Angel only had two albums; a self titled and the follow-up "Time Will Tell".  Hopefully there will be new material in 2012
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wkiml on November 21, 2011, 10:40:01 AM
Fifth Angel only had two albums; a self titled and the follow-up "Time Will Tell".  Hopefully there will be new material in 2012

Been waiting on New Material for years but have just about given up hope....Without Ted Pilot  I can't see than bad doing much I believe Archer is the only original member left  ...where is Samsara ( the resident Fifth Angel expert) to back me on this

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wkiml on November 21, 2011, 02:20:28 PM
As for Zebra  everyone seems to be familiar with Take your Fingers  for obvious reasons


Try these Who's behind the Door
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe7iYcIwArw

Wait until the Summers Gone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lbipOFALOE

The La La song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOG1ceSl9f4
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on November 21, 2011, 04:12:12 PM
I can never get enough of Zebra's first album and I love the song from their 3rd album  HE'S MAKING YOU THE FOOL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvbZkfYkbN0
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 21, 2011, 04:45:06 PM
I think Zebra should've been much bigger, as well as the band Angel.  Both bands had all the ingrediants for sucess.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on November 21, 2011, 07:19:48 PM
I listened to Whitesnake's self titled in its entirety for the first time, and it was decent. Still Of The Night is my favorite of theirs, but the album's main flaw is that a lot of its songs start the same way as SOTN. It was still an enjoyable listen.

7/10
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 21, 2011, 08:40:54 PM
I listened to Whitesnake's self titled in its entirety for the first time, and it was decent. Still Of The Night is my favorite of theirs, but the album's main flaw is that a lot of its songs start the same way as SOTN. It was still an enjoyable listen.

7/10

By start the same way, I assume you mean just that quick guitar slide they all do? That's a pretty minor flaw, I must say. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on November 21, 2011, 09:13:37 PM
Well it would be like if the majority of the songs on Awake began with the 6:00 drum fill. Or the majority of the songs on Snowfall on Judgment Day ended with a DUN DUN DUN. Oh wait...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 21, 2011, 09:17:15 PM
The opening fill of 6:00 is a little bit more distinctive and unique than just a half second guitar slide though. I actually kind of like that half of the songs start that way. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 22, 2011, 03:06:15 AM
I listened to Whitesnake's self titled in its entirety for the first time, and it was decent. Still Of The Night is my favorite of theirs, but the album's main flaw is that a lot of its songs start the same way as SOTN. It was still an enjoyable listen.

7/10

By start the same way, I assume you mean just that quick guitar slide they all do? That's a pretty minor flaw, I must say. :lol

I remember when I bought Yngwie's Alchemy album and noted that every song started with the same glissando. Not sure that's what ruined the album for me as the crap songs did that but I remember being less than impressed with everything starting the same way. Never noticed with the Whitesnake though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2011, 03:10:20 AM
I listened to Whitesnake's self titled in its entirety for the first time, and it was decent. Still Of The Night is my favorite of theirs, but the album's main flaw is that a lot of its songs start the same way as SOTN. It was still an enjoyable listen.

7/10

By start the same way, I assume you mean just that quick guitar slide they all do? That's a pretty minor flaw, I must say. :lol

I remember when I bought Yngwie's Alchemy album and noted that every song started with the same glissando. Not sure that's what ruined the album for me as the crap songs did that but I remember being less than impressed with everything starting the same way. Never noticed with the Whitesnake though.

Alchemy is by far Malmsteen's best record IMHO, and is one of my fav records of all time.  Very strong songs IMO and Mark Boals best performance ever recorded.  Magic record.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on November 22, 2011, 04:28:09 AM
Blob, those slides are so similar that I thought my iPod goofed and played Still of The Night out of order. Then another song had it and then another and it was old. Anyway, have you heard The Magnificent yet?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 22, 2011, 05:32:22 AM
I listened to Whitesnake's self titled in its entirety for the first time, and it was decent. Still Of The Night is my favorite of theirs, but the album's main flaw is that a lot of its songs start the same way as SOTN. It was still an enjoyable listen.

7/10

By start the same way, I assume you mean just that quick guitar slide they all do? That's a pretty minor flaw, I must say. :lol

I remember when I bought Yngwie's Alchemy album and noted that every song started with the same glissando. Not sure that's what ruined the album for me as the crap songs did that but I remember being less than impressed with everything starting the same way. Never noticed with the Whitesnake though.

Alchemy is by far Malmsteen's best record IMHO, and is one of my fav records of all time.  Very strong songs IMO and Mark Boals best performance ever recorded.  Magic record.
Yeah, I agree. Alchemy is excellent!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 22, 2011, 05:52:23 AM
I listened to Whitesnake's self titled in its entirety for the first time, and it was decent. Still Of The Night is my favorite of theirs, but the album's main flaw is that a lot of its songs start the same way as SOTN. It was still an enjoyable listen.

7/10
By start the same way, I assume you mean just that quick guitar slide they all do? That's a pretty minor flaw, I must say. :lol

I remember when I bought Yngwie's Alchemy album and noted that every song started with the same glissando. Not sure that's what ruined the album for me as the crap songs did that but I remember being less than impressed with everything starting the same way. Never noticed with the Whitesnake though.

Alchemy is by far Malmsteen's best record IMHO, and is one of my fav records of all time.  Very strong songs IMO and Mark Boals best performance ever recorded.  Magic record.
Yeah, I agree. Alchemy is excellent!

Seems like it's just me then. I didn't like anything about it. It was the start of the end of my llove for Yngwie.  It was even worse coming after the excellent Facing The Animal.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on November 22, 2011, 05:57:17 AM
Were any of you disappointed with the next Whitesnake album that had Steve Vai?  I remember thinking that Steve Vai didn't sound like Vai at all.  No little Vai riffs it was as if they wanted him to be a Sykes clone.  No I love Sykes but I wanted to here what Vai had to offer to the band and maybe I was disappointed in that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2011, 06:01:17 AM
Were any of you disappointed with the next Whitesnake album that had Steve Vai?  I remember thinking that Steve Vai didn't sound like Vai at all.  No little Vai riffs it was as if they wanted him to be a Sykes clone.  No I love Sykes but I wanted to here what Vai had to offer to the band and maybe I was disappointed in that.

I find Slip of the Tongue very disappointing. Aside from a couple of songs, I don't listen to it at all. To me it sounds distinctly like Vai, maybe he just restrained himself because it was a band, and not a solo album.
Either way, Vai has never impressed me in a band situation, even when he's playing with artists I otherwise love, like Whitesnake and DLR.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on November 22, 2011, 06:06:15 AM
I always thought Vai had a few Vai-isms :lol in DLR's music.  Like Hot Dog & a Shake.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 22, 2011, 08:51:54 AM
Were any of you disappointed with the next Whitesnake album that had Steve Vai?  I remember thinking that Steve Vai didn't sound like Vai at all.  No little Vai riffs it was as if they wanted him to be a Sykes clone.  No I love Sykes but I wanted to here what Vai had to offer to the band and maybe I was disappointed in that.

I find Slip of the Tongue very disappointing. Aside from a couple of songs, I don't listen to it at all. To me it sounds distinctly like Vai, maybe he just restrained himself because it was a band, and not a solo album.
Either way, Vai has never impressed me in a band situation, even when he's playing with artists I otherwise love, like Whitesnake and DLR.


I like SOTT but it's a long way from classic Whitesnake. I was a big fan of the previous era from Come And Get It onwards. And I love Vai on Eat 'em And Smile. Skyscraper was poor though, bar a couple of songs.


Just listened to a couple of classic albums that fall in this thread.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kFTy7XP165c/THVD8D5ZO5I/AAAAAAAAAPI/wl6Jrnyvc3E/s1600/Kiss-Paul_Stanley-Frontal.jpg)

The best album under the KISS monicker by far.

and

(https://rockdelight.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/1231531243_survivor-vital-signs-front1.jpg)

The definitive AOR album for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on November 22, 2011, 09:05:29 AM
Both fantasic records.  I listened to Paul and Ace's solo albums a few weeks ago and just yesterday to Vital Signs at work.

Does anybody listen to Gene's and Peter's at all?! :lol  I don't.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2011, 09:07:06 AM
Does anybody listen to Gene's and Peter's at all?! :lol  I don't.

I don't listen to any of them at all.   :yeahright
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 22, 2011, 09:35:22 AM
Does anybody listen to Gene's and Peter's at all?! :lol  I don't.

I don't listen to any of them at all.   :yeahright

Have you heard them? The Paul Stanley is a great rock album. Ace's is good but his voice is an acquired taste. Rip It Out is the first song I taught myself to play on guitar.
The ballaad I Can't Stop The Rain on Peter Criss' album is good but the rest is awful.
Gene's album was a real disappointment but then again I was never a big fan of his songs in KISS.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2011, 09:41:16 AM
Does anybody listen to Gene's and Peter's at all?! :lol  I don't.

I don't listen to any of them at all.   :yeahright

Have you heard them? The Paul Stanley is a great rock album. Ace's is good but his voice is an acquired taste. Rip It Out is the first song I taught myself to play on guitar.

Yeah, I've heard them. Paul and Ace's ones easily seemed to be the better of the bunch, but the songwriting didn't jump out at me, and I can't handle a whole album of Ace (as much as I like his voice in small doses), but at least they were the rockier of the 4 solo albums. Gene's was a cheap cash in attempt that wasn't any good, and Peter's one is too soft.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 22, 2011, 10:08:37 AM
Ace's solo album is a fantastic disc.  Paul's is very good, but behind Ace for sure.  I've never actually listened to Gene or Peters, but I've read countless negative reviews and all the samples I've listened to sound pretty poor.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 22, 2011, 11:49:47 AM
Were any of you disappointed with the next Whitesnake album that had Steve Vai?  I remember thinking that Steve Vai didn't sound like Vai at all.  No little Vai riffs it was as if they wanted him to be a Sykes clone.  No I love Sykes but I wanted to here what Vai had to offer to the band and maybe I was disappointed in that.

I find Slip of the Tongue very disappointing. Aside from a couple of songs, I don't listen to it at all. To me it sounds distinctly like Vai, maybe he just restrained himself because it was a band, and not a solo album.
Either way, Vai has never impressed me in a band situation, even when he's playing with artists I otherwise love, like Whitesnake and DLR.

I can totally see how any Vai-solo fan going back nowadays (or after the fact) would see it as him being constrained.  Myself, having gotten it on first release 20+ years ago, I loved SotT - as evidenced by my top 50 update on the weekend.  I didn't really know any VAI on his own, so him on SotT was (as an 18 year old accustomed to pure "glam") a step above anything else.  Still love it better than their S/T.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 22, 2011, 02:15:18 PM
Does anybody listen to Gene's and Peter's at all?! :lol  I don't.

I don't listen to any of them at all.   :yeahright

Have you heard them? The Paul Stanley is a great rock album. Ace's is good but his voice is an acquired taste. Rip It Out is the first song I taught myself to play on guitar.

Yeah, I've heard them. Paul and Ace's ones easily seemed to be the better of the bunch, but the songwriting didn't jump out at me, and I can't handle a whole album of Ace (as much as I like his voice in small doses), but at least they were the rockier of the 4 solo albums. Gene's was a cheap cash in attempt that wasn't any good, and Peter's one is too soft.

Apparently it was one of the most expensive albums ever made at that time. A waste of money for sure- though I do quite like a couple of the softer songs- Mr Makebelieve, See You Tonight, Always Near You/Nowhere To Hide.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on November 22, 2011, 07:11:05 PM
Blob, those slides are so similar that I thought my iPod goofed and played Still of The Night out of order. Then another song had it and then another and it was old. Anyway, have you heard The Magnificent yet?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2011, 08:00:22 PM
I still need to order THe Magnificant.  I am yet to hear anything from it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 22, 2011, 08:08:42 PM
I tried the samples from the Frontiers website, and loved it.  Thankfully, it's on Grooveshark now, so I can check out the whole thing.

https://grooveshark.com/#/album/The+Magnificent/7219380

and damn... right from the first chord/intro, I'm loving it.  Think I'll be ordering this now too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 22, 2011, 08:26:58 PM
Anyone have this year's Hardline?

(https://preview.gomusicnow.com/5723516/cover.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2011, 12:37:52 AM
Anyone have this year's Hardline?

(https://preview.gomusicnow.com/5723516/cover.jpg)

Is this Hardline with Johnny and Josh Ramos???  Leaving the End Open was amazing, I did not know about this one, holy shit!!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 23, 2011, 02:33:33 AM
No. It's a scandinavian band. Checked out a sampple when I first saw it but it's not the Gioellis.
Agree about Leaving The End Open. There was even some progginess to it. The 2nd album was woefull though. Johnny is a great singer, melodic and powerful. He lifts the Axel Rudi Pell stuff up a league.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2011, 03:10:41 AM
Damn, I really had my hopes up there.  Love AXP, he has had so many killer albums.  Masquerade Ball and Kings and Queens are probably my favs, but all of them are killer.  Tales of the Crown was amazing too.  The Crest was okay but average compared to Crown.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 23, 2011, 06:05:50 AM
Is this Hardline with Johnny and Josh Ramos???  Leaving the End Open was amazing, I did not know about this one, holy shit!!!

Dunno... it was apparently released in March.

Scrap the excitement.  This is another "Hardline" - Norwegian hardrockband founded in 1984. Now releasing their second album, 27 years after their debut - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Y0eZjV2Fg

Nothing to see here.  Move along.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 23, 2011, 10:27:47 AM
My favorite AXP album is Nasty Reputation; because the vocals are done by the great Rob Rock.  Rock might just have the best melodic metal voice of all time.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2011, 01:08:50 PM
My favorite AXP album is Nasty Reputation; because the vocals are done by the great Rob Rock.  Rock might just have the best melodic metal voice of all time.

I'm a fan of Rob Rock too.  The MARS CD he did with T-Mac was excellent, and I love his Garden of Chaos album, good disc.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 23, 2011, 04:15:59 PM
All of Rob Rocks material is kick ass, but I think MARS and DRIVER are the main standouts for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2011, 05:38:16 PM
All of Rob Rocks material is kick ass, but I think MARS and DRIVER are the main standouts for me.

I loved seeing T-mac in that sort of band enviorment.  his amazing style really complimented the songs well.  His Eyes of the World cd was a great listen too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 23, 2011, 06:38:23 PM
A fantastic melodic hard rock band is Circle II Circle, one of my favs and very underated
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 23, 2011, 07:46:44 PM
I still need to order THe Magnificant.  I am yet to hear anything from it.

Just finished getting thru it.  It's appropriately named.  Now on to something else I stumbled upon - Amaran's Plight.  Gary Wehrkamp, DC Cooper and Nick DVirgilio ... not sure how you can go wrong. 

(https://preview.gomusicnow.com/5638510/cover.jpg)

Anyone know it?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2011, 07:50:29 PM
A fantastic melodic hard rock band is Circle II Circle, one of my favs and very underated

Circle II Circle is also one of my favs.  Every album is amazing.  I actually listened to Burden of Truth and Delusions of Grandeur this morning.  The production is lacking on Delusions and Consequence, but they are still amazing.  Burden of Truth is by far my fav, what a record.  Andy Lee is such an underrated guitarist too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2011, 07:51:49 PM
I still need to order THe Magnificant.  I am yet to hear anything from it.

Just finished getting thru it.  It's appropriately named.  Now on to something else I stumbled upon - Amaran's Plight.  Gary Wehrkamp, DC Cooper and Nick DVirgilio ... not sure how you can go wrong. 

(https://preview.gomusicnow.com/5638510/cover.jpg)

Anyone know it?

Yeah, I have it, but I've only spun it a couple of times.  I might get it out and have another spin.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 24, 2011, 12:32:42 AM
Burden of Truth is by far my favorite C2C disc too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2011, 03:04:42 AM
Burden of Truth is by far my favorite C2C disc too.

Yeah, it's in first place by a long shot. It's a near perfect album IMO.  Great songs, wonderful production, blazing guitar work and Zak sounds great.  My fav tracks are Sentenced, Messiah, Who Am I To Be? Burden of Truth and Revelations.  Such an underrated album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 25, 2011, 02:17:49 PM
Well if we're talking bands like Allen/Lande and Circle II Circle, is there any love for the awesome (but deceptively named!) Nocturnal Rites? I had these guys down as a Church burning, Death Metal band with one of those logos you can't read, wearing Gene Simmons/King Diamond inspired makeup, and was amazed to actually find a melodic metal band who are awesome.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2011, 03:04:49 PM
Well if we're talking bands like Allen/Lande and Circle II Circle, is there any love for the awesome (but deceptively named!) Nocturnal Rites? I had these guys down as a Church burning, Death Metal band with one of those logos you can't read, wearing Gene Simmons/King Diamond inspired makeup, and was amazed to actually find a melodic metal band who are awesome.

 :lol  Amazing band, also one of my favs.  I actually loved the last one, even though the review were poor.  Shame the guitarist left, he was the strongest link IMO.  Grand Illusion and New World Messiah are probably my favs though.  So many damn good hooks and melodies throughout their songs.  Afterlife was great for something different too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 25, 2011, 08:33:28 PM
After poking around Frontier's website, and finding that Amanda Somerville had done vocal coaching with Epica, After Forever and Avantasia projects, I just had a listen to Alloy from Trillium.  Boy, sure wish I had done that a few days ago - coulda used it for Nick's growlie round.  One track has Jorn kinda growling.

(https://www.frontiers.it/m/photologue/photos/cache/Trillium%20-%20Alloy%20cover_cover_album.jpg)

Pretty sweet.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 25, 2011, 09:21:03 PM
The only Nocturnal Rites disc that I am familiar with is Afterlife; bought it after being very impressed with the tune Wake Up Dead.  What is considered their best album?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 27, 2011, 03:54:12 AM
The only Nocturnal Rites disc that I am familiar with is Afterlife; bought it after being very impressed with the tune Wake Up Dead.  What is considered their best album?

Not sure what is considered the best.  My favs are Grand Illusion and New World Messiah.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 27, 2011, 04:22:20 AM
The only Nocturnal Rites disc that I am familiar with is Afterlife; bought it after being very impressed with the tune Wake Up Dead.  What is considered their best album?

Not sure what is considered the best.  My favs are Grand Illusion and New World Messiah.

Yeah. any of these and the 8th Sin are great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 28, 2011, 04:53:10 PM
The only Nocturnal Rites disc that I am familiar with is Afterlife; bought it after being very impressed with the tune Wake Up Dead.  What is considered their best album?

Not sure what is considered the best.  My favs are Grand Illusion and New World Messiah.

Yeah. any of these and the 8th Sin are great.

Good to see some appreciation for that album.  I never understood all the negative reviews.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on November 28, 2011, 07:03:11 PM
The 8th Sin is VERY poppy, but from what I heard from it, it wasn't bad. I haven't made it through the whole album yet. Will have to give it another listen soon.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 28, 2011, 07:13:09 PM
The 8th Sin is VERY poppy, but from what I heard from it, it wasn't bad. I haven't made it through the whole album yet. Will have to give it another listen soon.

That's one of the reasons why I love it.  Very catchy and melodic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2011, 03:55:06 PM
Just had a listen to this:

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51nYwWk6uDL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Very nice.  Gonna try and check out Second Coming and Trinity before the week's out.

Edit... duh, now I know why I've heard the name before, JLB sang on one of their track's from Trinity, and they toured with DT.   :facepalm:  Europe gets this, and we get Trivium.  Unfair!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 29, 2011, 04:02:32 PM
I still need to order THe Magnificant.  I am yet to hear anything from it.

Just finished getting thru it.  It's appropriately named.  Now on to something else I stumbled upon - Amaran's Plight.  Gary Wehrkamp, DC Cooper and Nick DVirgilio ... not sure how you can go wrong. 

(https://preview.gomusicnow.com/5638510/cover.jpg)

Anyone know it?

I know it well.  My copy is signed :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 29, 2011, 04:20:48 PM
Just had a listen to this:

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51nYwWk6uDL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Very nice.  Gonna try and check out Second Coming and Trinity before the week's out.

Edit... duh, now I know why I've heard the name before, JLB sang on one of their track's from Trinity, and they toured with DT.   :facepalm:  Europe gets this, and we get Trivium.  Unfair!

Second Coming and Trinity are both better than the debut IMO.  Both amazing album, pick them up right away.  A shame that Michael has left the band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2011, 09:08:05 PM
I know it well.  My copy is signed :)

Boastful prick!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wkiml on November 30, 2011, 08:45:14 AM
excuse me for showing my age but 70/80's AOR  ...stood for Album Oriented Rock  and to me brings to mind band's like STYX/Journey/Foreigner/Fleetwood Mac/Eagles  were as Radio stations focused on an album as a whole, not just the singles thus giving DJ's a looser rotation of songs to play   Alot of the bands being mentioned in this thread I don't see fitting that format 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 30, 2011, 09:32:29 AM
I got to agree with Bill/wkiml on this, a lot of the stuff here I wouldn't characterize as AOR.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 30, 2011, 09:56:13 AM
I guess Melodic and AOR are two different things.  AOR typically is Melodic in nature, but the Melodic genre isn't exclusively AOR.  IE, the two aren't synonymous.

I agree with what 70s/80s AOR was and how it started.  Nowadays, I just think of AOR as non-radio friendly bands with albums that don't have any 'filler'.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 30, 2011, 10:31:51 AM
Melodic rock I think is a looser term than AOR and I'd agree with your examples. I'm not a big AOR fan (too many keyboards and it all sounds a bit too polished for me) but more a MR fan. I felt that we were getting a bit off topic with the likes of Circle 2 Circle and Allen Lande but they are certainly melodic, but probably melodic Metal.

Anyway, today's playlist for me has been Stryper's To Hell With The Devil, In God We Trust and Against The Law. I'm not a Christian at all but there is some melodic rock perfection in there. Pretty VH in places.

Also been playing Magnum's Wings Of Heaven  :metal

and Leverage's Tides  :hefdaddy If you like The Magnificent album (and it's grown on me alot) this will blow you away.

In a more AOR vein is Prime Suspect's ST from 2010. Daniel Liverani is a talented guy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2011, 05:00:21 PM
Agree, they are two different types of music.  But since there is little talk about either style of music, I sort of wanted to cover all of it in this thread, which seems to have worked.  :)

And yes, Wings of Heaven is amazing.  Don't Wake the Lion and Wild Swan are absolutely brilliant.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 02, 2011, 02:50:48 PM
Today I've been listening to these awesome albums

Y&T- Meanstreak, In Rock We Trust, 10. Truly great band. Awesome live too.
Coney Hatch- ST and Outta Hand. Don't Say make Me is one of my favourite songs ever. They were let down a bit by the songs they let the bass player sing. Carl Dixon has a great voice.
TNT-Tell No Tales, Intuition (a bit of a letdown this one after tell No Tales, though the title track slays)

It's been a good day.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2011, 02:57:16 PM
Tony Harnell is possibly the most underrated vocalist of all time.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 02, 2011, 03:17:04 PM
Tony Harnell is possibly the most underrated vocalist of all time.

True. I swear he sings notes only dogs can hear.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 02, 2011, 06:17:34 PM
Carl Dixon has a great great voice and I think Coney Hatch is one of the best pure Canadian rock bands to come out of the country.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 02, 2011, 08:31:08 PM
Carl Dixon has a great great voice and I think Coney Hatch is one of the best pure Canadian rock bands to come out of the country.

Rik Emmet, Gil Moore and Mike Levine disagree with you.  And so do I.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 02, 2011, 09:12:48 PM
lol well obviously Triumph and Rush rule over all other Canadian bands; thats a given.  But as for the second tier, Coney Hatch, Saga, Queen City Kids, Harlequin, and April Wine are standouts for me.  Especially Coney Hatch, they had the voice and talent to have crossover success in the US.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 02, 2011, 09:19:17 PM
Well, Rush is in a league of their own.  Triumph just a bit below that, and then those you mention.  Lots of other good Cdn bands, but not within the Melodic/AOR genre - except Harem Scarem.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 03, 2011, 03:41:34 AM
Well, Rush is in a league of their own.  Triumph just a bit below that, and then those you mention.  Lots of other good Cdn bands, but not within the Melodic/AOR genre - except Harem Scarem.

I never got into Triumph at all, was never exposed to them though I heard Hugo do a cover of Magic Power and I like that song. Will have to give them a go. Any recommendations to start with?
Harem Scarem were a great band. Guitarist Pete Lesperance's solo album Down In It is great also.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 03, 2011, 04:39:57 AM
Allied Forces is their Moving Pictures - ironically, also released in 1981.  I'm also a fan of Surveillance. 

"Must Listen" songs would be Magic Power, Hold On, Rock and Roll Machine, and Fight the Good Fight.  I personally also love Follow Your Heart, but I've heard some feel it's too cheesy lyrically.  I don't mind the lyrics, and the power from the guitar more than makes up for it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2011, 04:44:13 AM
I'd like to add Honeymoon Suite to the Canadian Bands I loved.

New Girl Love
Burning In Love
Feel It Again
What Does It Take
Love Changes Everything
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 03, 2011, 05:33:17 AM
I was wondering when someone would mention them.  They didn't get much recognition, but were a pretty solid band none-the-less.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on December 03, 2011, 05:38:23 AM
I was wondering when someone would mention them.  They didn't get much recognition, but were a pretty solid band none-the-less.

Saw them with Heart. Derry Grehan is an unreal guitarist.  They main band got back together in 2009.  I wished they toured the States.  I would have seen them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 03, 2011, 10:13:07 AM
Talking of Canadian bands I remember quite liking the Brighton Rock debut but not heard it in years.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 13, 2011, 06:51:10 AM
Giving this a bump with a really good new album.

(https://hardrockhideout.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/beggars-thieves-watb-cover.jpg?w=300&h=297)

Very classy stuff and the video for the track We Come Undone is done well too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIEnmIVDqno

Also been listening to this

(https://991.com/NewGallery/Electric-Boys-Funk-O-Metal-Carp-447327.jpg)

Some great funky songs with a sense of humour on here. The only otther album of theirs I've heard is Freewheelin' and I was disappointed after the excellence of Funk-o-Metal Carpet Ride.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2011, 01:17:51 PM
Never heard Electric Boys.  I was also impressed with that new B&T song when I checked it out the other day.

Here's a couple more I've been listening to lately too;

House of Lords - Big Money

New album from these guys and it's a real winner.  The production is weaker than their last few, but the songs are mature, catchy, well written and great performances, recommended.

(https://alllossless.net/uploads/posts/2011-10/1318431860_front1.jpg)


From the Inside - Visions

Here's one that came out a couple of years ago.  Great side project from Danny Vaughn, and this has the great Jimi Bell from House of Lords on lead guitar, great melodic rock.

(https://yourmusicblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/from-the-inside-visions.jpg)

Khymera - Greatest Wonder and A New Promise

Simply one of the best AOR bands in recent years.  Featuring the great Dennis Ward, both of these albums are full of music win.  Great catchy melodies, great performances and just classy melodic rock.

(https://www.cmdistro.com/images/xlarge/27358.jpg)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ou3Wazonqgs/RlDagJ3nTLI/AAAAAAAAAAM/6Fs0PYM1v94/s320/Khymera.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 13, 2011, 01:23:13 PM
House of Lords is already on my 'to check out' list (which is 78 albums and a dozen or so bands deep)

B&T... that video was painful.  I had to close my eyes so I could appreciate the music.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 13, 2011, 01:37:53 PM
House of Lords is already on my 'to check out' list (which is 78 albums and a dozen or so bands deep)

B&T... that video was painful.  I had to close my eyes so I could appreciate the music.

Yeha, definitely check it out, I'm sure you'll like it.  Here is the lead single.  This song is okay, but there are much more better songs on the album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va6gk6GYgfs

Also, the B&T video isn't that bad.  :lol Besides, it has Jake E Lee.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 13, 2011, 02:09:21 PM
House of Lords is already on my 'to check out' list (which is 78 albums and a dozen or so bands deep)

B&T... that video was painful.  I had to close my eyes so I could appreciate the music.

Yeha, definitely check it out, I'm sure you'll like it.  Here is the lead single.  This song is okay, but there are much more better songs on the album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va6gk6GYgfs

Also, the B&T video isn't that bad.  :lol Besides, it has Jake E Lee.

Not a fan of the house Of Lords, though I am a fan of House Of Lords. Enjoyed the last one (Cartesian dreams) alot. Seems every other is a good album.

I like the Khymera. Dennis Ward can do no wrong for me. The Visions album is good too.

Anyone know this little beauty?

(https://images.plixid.com/imager/w_500/h_/530a33f6598e0edaaabbb37793070f15.jpg)

Hard to find these days I think, and out of print. A great album though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 13, 2011, 03:32:28 PM
Speaking of Canadian bands, do any of the fogies remember Bronze? I had their first album.
(At work, can't link)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on December 13, 2011, 04:15:42 PM
I don't remember Bronze.  I will check them out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 13, 2011, 04:22:45 PM
Speaking of Canadian bands, do any of the fogies remember Bronze? I had their first album.
(At work, can't link)

Man, you must be digging deep into the vault.  I'm a Canadian fogey, and I don't recognize the name at all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 13, 2011, 06:11:35 PM
I'm Canadian too and I've never heard of Bronze..........I'm familiar with Teaze though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 14, 2011, 05:42:25 AM
I'm Canadian too and I've never heard of Bronze..........I'm familiar with Teaze though.

Another more obscure- at least in the UK- Canadian band I liked was Big House. One album of sleazy hard rock then nothing. Grunge (or rather the suits at the record companies who decided hard rock had had it's time and signed anything grungy) had alot to answer for.

(https://www.heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/B/BIGHOUSE1.JPG)

It has to be said that these days Scandinavia is the home of hard rock.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 14, 2011, 06:12:11 AM
I had that album on cassette.  Only songs I remember are Dollar in my pocket, and All Nite.  Couple of good tracks though.

And yes, Scandinavia is putting out some good melodic (or in my days, glam) rock albums.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Ghost on December 27, 2011, 01:40:53 PM
Anybody into the Swedish band H.E.A.T? Really good 80's cheesy melodic rock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UORGqxoVCCA
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 27, 2011, 01:57:42 PM
I've heard a couple of HEAT songs, they are not too bad.

Also, new Sunstorm;

JOE LYNN TURNER new album pays tribute to his 80s vocal sessions

JOE LYNN TURNERs NEW SUNSTORM album pays tribute to his 80s vocal sessions
Emotional Fire out on Frontiers on February 24th in Europe and February 28th in North America

Joe Lynn Turners popular AOR side project with German/American producer Dennis Ward, SUNSTORM, will release the third album entitled Emotional Fire on February 24th 2012 in Europe (February 28th in North America) on Frontiers Records.



Born after Turner met with Frontiers Records President Serafino Perugino, the SUNSTORM project was a way to dig up some old gems, written by the former Rainbow, Deep Purple and Yngwie Malmsteen singer during the mid 80s. The task was to create an ultimate Joe Lynn Turner Melodic Rock dream collection. This brought on the release of the first SUNSTORM album in 2006 which met with much critic and fan approval - and the follow up House of Dreams three years later.

While the first two albums basic inspiration came from the Melodic Rock catalogue of songs that Turner penned for himself or other artists of the genre, for this third album, Frontiers and JLT decided to look at Turners numerous vocal sessions he did in the 80s as a background vocalist for other artists. This brought on a resurrection of some of Michael Boltons Melodic Rock gems such as Gina, (originally included on The Hunger album, where Turner contributed with background vocals), You Wouldnt Know Love and Emotional Fire, which Bolton penned for the Heart of Stone album by Cher (in which Turner also appeared as background vocalist). I sang background on the original Gina, says Joe, Michael and I did all of the parts but I tried to rock it up a bit more than the original... not so pop! Good song though! It's funny...I heard Emotional Fire from Desmond Child during a writing session and then he asked me to sing background vocals on it! Crazy! It's like one big circle!



With production and mixing once again under the expert hands of Dennis Ward (Pink Cream 69, Place Vendome, Angra etc.) and a tracklisting rounded out by some amazing songs written by the likes of Soren Kronkvist (Crash the System, Issa), Tom and James Martin (Vega, Sunstorm, Khymera) and Daniel Palmqvist (Xorigin, The Murder of My Sweet), the third Sunstorm album, Emotional Fire, is destined to reignite the Melodic Rock passion in every fan. I think this record has a good mix of songs, concludes Joe, Just what Sunstorm is supposed to be! Dennis Ward is a great producer and the players are amazing. I have to say I am pleased with the work we did and hope that everyone else will be pleased as well...enjoy!

SUNSTORMs Emotional Fire will include the following songs: Never Give Up, Emotional Fire, Lay Down Your Arms, You Wouldnt Know Love, Wish You Were Here, Torn In Half, Gina, The Higher You Rise, Emily, Follow Your Heart, All I Am.

The first single, Never Give Up can be exclusively streamed on the Frontiers Records webradio www.frontiers.it/webradio

Weblinks: www.joelynnturner.com / www.frontiers.it


(https://www.thehighwaystar.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/sunstorm_emotional_fire.jpg)

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 27, 2011, 02:03:09 PM
Anybody into the Swedish band H.E.A.T? Really good 80's cheesy melodic rock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UORGqxoVCCA

Found them very bland to be honest. Second album was better than the first and it sounds better on a sunny day but I live in the UK so I'd never get to play it.
Joe Lynn Turner has a great voice and Rainbow's I Surrender was the first single I ever bought (along with UFO's Lonely Heart at the same time). The other 2 Sunstorm albums were ok so I'll give that a listen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 27, 2011, 02:33:27 PM
I wasn't too thrilled with the Sunstorm debut but House of Dreams IMO was incredible.  So many good songs, and a personal AOR fav of mine.  Hopefully this new one will live up to House of Dreams.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 27, 2011, 03:16:22 PM
Anybody into the Swedish band H.E.A.T? Really good 80's cheesy melodic rock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UORGqxoVCCA

Much better than HEAT is Wig Wam. First two albums were excellent, the third didn't match up for me but was still pretty good. Awesome live, don't take themselves at all seriously but great songs and performances. Wig Wamania (album no 2) is the best.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 27, 2011, 03:18:19 PM
Holy Moly wolf... are you the down under sales rep for Frontiers?  Not complaining, because everything has been a home run.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 27, 2011, 03:20:15 PM
Holy Moly wolf... are you the down under sales rep for Frontiers?  Not complaining, because everything has been a home run.

 :lol No, the guy that runs melodicrock.com is, but I think I should be one too, I love so many of their artists and always look forward to new releases from them. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 27, 2011, 03:56:20 PM
Frontiers records are pretty much the saviors of rock.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 27, 2011, 04:50:07 PM
Frontiers records are pretty much the saviors of rock.

they've taken a load of my money over the years! they do it well though and nearly always put out quality.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 27, 2011, 06:51:22 PM
Frontiers records are pretty much the saviors of rock.

Pretty much this.  I love them since I found them a few years ago.  Bought so many of their records.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 28, 2011, 05:57:54 AM
Rainbow's I Surrender was the first single I ever bought (along with UFO's Lonely Heart at the same time).
Two GREAT songs!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 28, 2011, 06:58:12 AM
Rainbow's I Surrender was the first single I ever bought (along with UFO's Lonely Heart at the same time).
Two GREAT songs!

Not a bad start to my music buying addiction.  :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on December 28, 2011, 07:11:28 AM
Well after reading this, I need to play some Rainbow. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 28, 2011, 07:40:37 AM
Rainbow's I Surrender was the first single I ever bought (along with UFO's Lonely Heart at the same time).
Two GREAT songs!

Not a bad start to my music buying addiction.  :)
The Wild The Willing And The Innocent is one of my Top 3 UFO albums!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 28, 2011, 12:32:39 PM
Rainbow's I Surrender was the first single I ever bought (along with UFO's Lonely Heart at the same time).
Two GREAT songs!

Not a bad start to my music buying addiction.  :)
The Wild The Willing And The Innocent is one of my Top 3 UFO albums!

A much-overlooked album. I love UFO but always found their albums patchy- like Thin Lizzy. They both sounded better live too.
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Post by: TAC on December 28, 2011, 12:38:02 PM
UFO and Thin Lizzy are two of my favorite bands! There are some inconsistencies, but for the most part, it is all CLASSIC!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2011, 01:26:06 PM
I have really gotten into Lizzy over the last couple of years.  Such a great underrated band.  Love watching all their old live stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2011, 03:44:07 AM
Just picked up Europe's Final Countdown album.  Besides a greatest hits and their last 3 albums, I haven't got anything old from these guys.  Listening now and this is a really great album.  Great hooks and killer guitar playing from Mr. Norum.  Ninja just kicked my ass!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on December 30, 2011, 04:55:42 AM
While I haven't bought a Europe album in 20 years, I just checked out their new live DVD, from 2011 show.
Very highly recommended.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2011, 04:57:58 AM
While I haven't bought a Europe album in 20 years, I just checked out their new live DVD, from 2011 show.
Very highly recommended.

Yeah, I got that a couple of months ago, great quality and wonderful performance from the entire band, recommended also.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 30, 2011, 12:08:40 PM
Just listened to the best of Europe yesterday.  On this best of version, they have some dance re-mix version of TFC at the end of the disc; which is horrific.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 30, 2011, 12:35:54 PM
Just picked up Europe's Final Countdown album.  Besides a greatest hits and their last 3 albums, I haven't got anything old from these guys.  Listening now and this is a really great album.  Great hooks and killer guitar playing from Mr. Norum.  Ninja just kicked my ass!!

Shit, really?  That's a glam/melodic staple for fogey's.  I figured for sure you'd have that in your collection - I had that when it was released.  The Final Countdown was a huge radio hit in the late 80s.  That vinyl got a lot of spins on my player.  Not a bad track on it at all - glam at it's best.  Out of the World is pretty good to, and Prisoner's is just fantastic (as we already discussed).
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 30, 2011, 03:02:46 PM
I love Europe but can't get into their modern stuff at all. Everything from Wings Of Tomorrow to the awesome Prisoners In Paradise was quality. There is just something about Joey Tempest's voice that's pleasing to my ears.
Re the dvd, is Ready Or Not on it? And does John Norum make a balls up of the solo like every version I've ever heard?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2011, 04:54:48 PM
Just picked up Europe's Final Countdown album.  Besides a greatest hits and their last 3 albums, I haven't got anything old from these guys.  Listening now and this is a really great album.  Great hooks and killer guitar playing from Mr. Norum.  Ninja just kicked my ass!!

Shit, really?  That's a glam/melodic staple for fogey's.  I figured for sure you'd have that in your collection - I had that when it was released.  The Final Countdown was a huge radio hit in the late 80s.  That vinyl got a lot of spins on my player.  Not a bad track on it at all - glam at it's best.  Out of the World is pretty good to, and Prisoner's is just fantastic (as we already discussed).

I'm only 27, so I guess that's why I'm up with more of the melodic rock of these days and are unfamiliar with some of the bands you have been talking about previously, since I was only very young when they came out.  Europe I always appreciated but was just drawn toward their later stuff due to the modern and harder edge of it.  But after listening to TFC, I should have checked out their older stuff a long time ago.

BTW, just placed a big rock order on CDWOW as they had 10% off everything.  Here's what I just ordered;

The Magnificent - The Magnificent
Mecca - Undeniable
Lionville - Lionville
Beggars and Thieves - We Are the Brokenhearted
Fifth Angel - Time Will Tell
Plus 4 Pendragon albums (a prog band I'm getting into)

Thanks guys for some of these recommendations and helping me find some more amazing AOR.  Gonna look for some more Europe today me thinks.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 30, 2011, 04:58:48 PM
I've been listening to Pendragon on Grooveshark.  Digging it very much.  For some reason I thought you were in the 'fogey' club.  Well, you've got a lot of good mid/late 80s glam rock to get exposed to I guess.  For Europe, I only have TFC, Out of This World, and PiP.  Lost touch with them after that.  I've got The Magnificent, and eager to know how Mecca is.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2011, 05:55:34 PM
It's all good mate, I really believe I'm a fogey at heart.

Anyway, lowdz recommends Mecca;

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=30052.msg1170225#msg1170225
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 31, 2011, 01:04:52 AM
Wolf, great call in ordering Fifth Angel - Time will Tell...............just do yourself a favor and get their self titled asap as well.  Two of my favorite discs of all time and a great band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: senecadawg2 on December 31, 2011, 08:56:01 AM
Wow. This is a wonderful thread to find randomly on my saturday morning.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: KevShmev on December 31, 2011, 11:05:33 AM
I love Europe but can't get into their modern stuff at all. Everything from Wings Of Tomorrow to the awesome Prisoners In Paradise was quality. There is just something about Joey Tempest's voice that's pleasing to my ears.
Re the dvd, is Ready Or Not on it? And does John Norum make a balls up of the solo like every version I've ever heard?

Europe's Out of This World was one of the first albums (cassette for me, actually :lol) that I listened to frequently from start to finish (probably after The Police's Synchronicity, Thriller and INXS' Kick), back in 1988 when I was 15. :biggrin:

And it is worth mentioning again that Dream Theater reminded me a lot of Europe when I first heard them: dramatic rock with an operatic singer and a cool use of keys.  It didn't take long for me to realize the massive difference, but that was my first impression, and I suspect that is why I liked DT so much at first, because they reminded me of Europe.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2012, 03:30:04 AM
Wolf, great call in ordering Fifth Angel - Time will Tell...............just do yourself a favor and get their self titled asap as well.  Two of my favorite discs of all time and a great band.

Yeah man, after checking the title track out I was instantly sold.  The site I ordered from only had the second album so I'll go elsewhere for the debut.

Speaking of glam, this weekend I have gotten out my old Lizzy Borden cd's.  Not so much AOR or melodic rock, but a wonderful glam/metal band back in the day who are very underrated IMO.  My fav would actualyl be the 2000 release Deal With the Devil, killer tunes all the way through, although the only one I need to get is Visual Lies.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 01, 2012, 12:43:28 PM
Not heard any Lizzy Borden, will have to sample some on YT.

If we're talking Glam then this is a masterpiece of the genre. If you haven't heard it you need to.

(https://www.sleazeroxx.com/bands/vain/respect.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2012, 03:50:14 PM
lowdz, you're knowledge on old school glam and aor simply astound me.  Never heard of that album either.  Lizzy Borden is more metal than glam.  they only had one real album where they did more radio AOR style stuff.  Check out these beauty's;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vchm-RrXtU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY6KK07T0gI
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on January 01, 2012, 09:01:03 PM
Lizzy Borden rules!!!!  Visual Lies is their most melodic/glam disc I guess, but every single disc they have released is stellar.  Their latest, Appointment with Death is awesome.  But they are for sure more on the straight up metal side
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 02, 2012, 02:40:11 AM
Lizzy Borden rules!!!!  Visual Lies is their most melodic/glam disc I guess, but every single disc they have released is stellar.  Their latest, Appointment with Death is awesome.  But they are for sure more on the straight up metal side

Man, I need to get Visual Lies, especially if that's their most melodic one, cause as I said it's the only one I don't own.  And yeah, Appointment with Death was really really strong.

NP: Hell is for Heroes!!  :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on January 02, 2012, 05:57:35 AM
The Murderess Metal Road Show  :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 02, 2012, 03:11:29 PM
lowdz, you're knowledge on old school glam and aor simply astound me.  Never heard of that album either.  Lizzy Borden is more metal than glam.  they only had one real album where they did more radio AOR style stuff.  Check out these beauty's;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vchm-RrXtU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY6KK07T0gI

Well thanks Wolfie, but it's just a product of being there with a decent expendable income at the time! the mid-late 90s were the lost years for me. Hardly bought a thing and didn't get into many new bands.
Checked out the YT clips and quite enjoyed it. Will definately check out an album or two.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 02, 2012, 09:14:06 PM
lowdz, you're knowledge on old school glam and aor simply astound me.  Never heard of that album either.  Lizzy Borden is more metal than glam.  they only had one real album where they did more radio AOR style stuff.  Check out these beauty's;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vchm-RrXtU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY6KK07T0gI

Well thanks Wolfie, but it's just a product of being there with a decent expendable income at the time! the mid-late 90s were the lost years for me. Hardly bought a thing and didn't get into many new bands.
Checked out the YT clips and quite enjoyed it. Will definately check out an album or two.

Cool mate, definitely check them out!

The Murderess Metal Road Show  :metal :metal :metal

I was just watching that DVD last night.  Great show.
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Post by: wkiml on January 03, 2012, 07:53:26 AM
The Murderess Metal Road Show  :metal :metal :metal

I own this on Vinyl and CD  Great album and really catches the essence of the band in the live format
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 09, 2012, 03:26:27 PM
Ok, so checked out Deal With The Devil and Visual lies. Pretty good I have to say. Prefer DWTD of the two as VL sounds a bit dated- not that that would be a bad thing if I'd heard it back in the day- but I find it hard to get into "new" stuff from back in the day now.


And here's today's recommendations for anyone who's interested.

(https://i49.tinypic.com/23h6ff6.jpg)


(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yjxsQCLQxYo/TAfIpCV8dOI/AAAAAAAAA44/1d2xqiedRVk/s320/Steelhouse+Lane+-+Slaves+Of+The+New+World+-+Front.jpg)

Guitars by the excellent Mike Slamer (who played on everyone's albums in the 80s- he was Warrant, amongst others!). Many of these songs have been done by other bands like Hardline, house Of Lords etc.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 23, 2012, 02:58:27 AM
Today's blast from the past is this gem that went unnoticed in 1992. It has guitars from the always awesome Gary Hoey and Cats In Boots vocalist Joel Ellis. Lots of energy to it- no pink and fluffy keyboards here.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_A0dZx1QraSQ/SvYOWN6kspI/AAAAAAAABVI/aiadQuNgY6Q/s400/heavybones.jpg)

While your at it, the Cats In Boots album is worth checking out but it's a bit sleazier/punkier.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2012, 03:31:00 AM
Love Mike Slamer's guitar playing.  Really enjoyed his Seventh Key project with Billy Greer and Terry Brock.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on January 23, 2012, 06:19:56 AM
Never heard of Mike Slamer.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2012, 01:31:00 PM
Never heard of Mike Slamer.

He is originally from the band City Boy.  I still have to pick up those Steelhouse Lane albums.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2012, 03:34:08 AM
Ok, so checked out Deal With The Devil and Visual lies. Pretty good I have to say. Prefer DWTD of the two as VL sounds a bit dated- not that that would be a bad thing if I'd heard it back in the day- but I find it hard to get into "new" stuff from back in the day now.


And here's today's recommendations for anyone who's interested.

(https://i49.tinypic.com/23h6ff6.jpg)


(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yjxsQCLQxYo/TAfIpCV8dOI/AAAAAAAAA44/1d2xqiedRVk/s320/Steelhouse+Lane+-+Slaves+Of+The+New+World+-+Front.jpg)

Guitars by the excellent Mike Slamer (who played on everyone's albums in the 80s- he was Warrant, amongst others!). Many of these songs have been done by other bands like Hardline, house Of Lords etc.

I ordered both of these albums last night!!  :metal

Glad you liked Deal With the Devil, it's a fantastic album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 28, 2012, 04:56:08 AM
Two fne albums there.
Enjoying the LB stuff and can't believe I missed them first time round. I was put off by the image and never gave the music a chance. Strange though because I am a huge KISS and Alice fan. Go figure. Voice reminds me of a young Geoff Tate.
Another band I've recently grown to love after ignoring them in the past is Running Wild.

Today's recommendation is this great album. They have a new one due soon which I'm looking forward to. I'd never heard them until they played Firefest a few years ago. They blew me away. They played this album in it's entirety.

(https://www.webofmetal.com/images/products/lint-house-of-shakira/lint-house-of-shakira.jpg?1237131626)


Have you heard the new Fate album? That is really good. Probably better than any of their previous allbums.
And the new Angeline album is very good too. Very Harem Scarem.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on January 28, 2012, 01:39:11 PM
I love Europe but can't get into their modern stuff at all. Everything from Wings Of Tomorrow to the awesome Prisoners In Paradise was quality. There is just something about Joey Tempest's voice that's pleasing to my ears.
Re the dvd, is Ready Or Not on it? And does John Norum make a balls up of the solo like every version I've ever heard?

No it's not on the DVD, on of my fave Europe songs.
Norum nails EVERYTHING down, including a beautiful rendition of Gary Moore's classic, 'The Loner'.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2012, 02:20:05 PM
Two fne albums there.
Enjoying the LB stuff and can't believe I missed them first time round. I was put off by the image and never gave the music a chance. Strange though because I am a huge KISS and Alice fan. Go figure. Voice reminds me of a young Geoff Tate.
Another band I've recently grown to love after ignoring them in the past is Running Wild.

Today's recommendation is this great album. They have a new one due soon which I'm looking forward to. I'd never heard them until they played Firefest a few years ago. They blew me away. They played this album in it's entirety.

(https://www.webofmetal.com/images/products/lint-house-of-shakira/lint-house-of-shakira.jpg?1237131626)


Have you heard the new Fate album? That is really good. Probably better than any of their previous allbums.
And the new Angeline album is very good too. Very Harem Scarem.

Glad your enjoying the LB.  O saw Fate had a new album but I haven't checked it out.  I need to get into more Fate, I only have their first album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2012, 03:45:50 PM
Man, I digging Time Will Tell from Fifth Angel, great melodic rock cd.  Cathedral, Midnight Love, Broken Dreams, Time Will Tell, Angel of Mercy, Feel The Heat, terrific songs.  I gotta get me the debut.  These guys should have been a lot more popular.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 29, 2012, 04:14:57 PM
Man, I digging Time Will Tell from Fifth Angel, great melodic rock cd.  Cathedral, Midnight Love, Broken Dreams, Time Will Tell, Angel of Mercy, Feel The Heat, terrific songs.  I gotta get me the debut.  These guys should have been a lot more popular.

The debut is a must!! Supposedly they are working on new material that should surface this year, but who knows.  They should have been much much bigger- they are basically unknowns, but still have a cult following.  Two outstanding releases.  Trust me, get the first one, the two go great hand in hand.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2012, 05:05:29 PM
Right, I'm gonna order it tonight.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 30, 2012, 02:24:07 AM
Man, I digging Time Will Tell from Fifth Angel, great melodic rock cd.  Cathedral, Midnight Love, Broken Dreams, Time Will Tell, Angel of Mercy, Feel The Heat, terrific songs.  I gotta get me the debut.  These guys should have been a lot more popular.

The debut is a must!! Supposedly they are working on new material that should surface this year, but who knows.  They should have been much much bigger- they are basically unknowns, but still have a cult following.  Two outstanding releases.  Trust me, get the first one, the two go great hand in hand.

Bought it on vinyl on release and loved it. Not heard it for an age as I don't have a deck but will have to track it down. Never heard the follow up. Will have to YT some tracks.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2012, 03:09:19 AM
Time Will Tell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbVSZljEPa8

Midnight Love - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91i9XqVWNQ0

Angel of Mercy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zydm460b5eE

Great stuff!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 30, 2012, 05:33:18 AM
Time Will Tell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbVSZljEPa8

Midnight Love - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91i9XqVWNQ0

Angel of Mercy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zydm460b5eE

Great stuff!!

I like those but it's alot more commercial sounding than the debut, which  :metal. Think I actually prefer these tracks to alot of the debut. Will have to source a copy of this asap.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 30, 2012, 05:42:01 AM
Yeah, very commercial.  nice, but didn't WOW me the way some of your other recommendations (ie, Frontiers releases) have.  Had a chance to listen to Mecca yet?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 30, 2012, 12:14:37 PM
Yeah, very commercial.  nice, but didn't WOW me the way some of your other recommendations (ie, Frontiers releases) have.  Had a chance to listen to Mecca yet?

It's a different kind of Hard Rock, certainly. A bit more Metal.

I quite like the Mecca, though I'm not often in the mood to listen to it. I do most of my listening in the car now and it's not really a driving album. My only gripe with it is the way Joe pronounces In A Perfec-ta World. Grates on me a bit and is a bit unnecesary.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2012, 04:23:08 PM
Well, I'm loving Fifth Angel, right up my alley.  I haven't listened to Mecca yet either, it's still in the shrink wrap.  :facepalm:

I have had a listen to the new Beggars and Theives though.  It's not bad, some filler, but some good fresh sounding tracks.  Probably wouldn't spin it over and over though.  We Come Undone is a melodic rock gem.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 31, 2012, 02:57:36 PM
Well, I'm loving Fifth Angel, right up my alley.  I haven't listened to Mecca yet either, it's still in the shrink wrap.  :facepalm:

I have had a listen to the new Beggars and Theives though.  It's not bad, some filler, but some good fresh sounding tracks.  Probably wouldn't spin it over and over though.  We Come Undone is a melodic rock gem.

I rebought the debut recently and I've been playing that alot. Great album and I'd overlooked it over recent years.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2012, 03:51:11 PM
Might have to look into that one too then.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2012, 01:30:50 PM
Might have to look into that one too then.

These might help your decision.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhidor9pZB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87tmza-MPEI&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haeqiMJTczw&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2012, 01:48:18 PM
Cool mate, I will check these out later.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 04, 2012, 09:21:30 AM
I know it was talked about earlier, but holy moly did I love re-discovering Winger!  Finally got thru Pull, IV, and Karma and hot damn all three were chubby inducing.

Time for something (kinda) new.  My last.fm recommended Pride of Lions.  Why you ask?  Fronted by Toby Hitchcock.  I know Kade either knows them or will check them out, but man does Hitchcock have a wonderfully smooth voice.

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41rf4Jb7yML._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

They've got a few releases, and are out on Grooveshark for all to explore.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 04, 2012, 11:49:38 AM
Pride of Lions is pretty good. Jim Peterik can write a tune! He is responsible for one of my favourite albums ever- Survivor's Vital Signs. Great songs every one. The production ages it but it's still a great album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 04, 2012, 12:40:27 PM
Hitchcock's voice reminds me of a young Rik Emmett every now and then.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 05, 2012, 03:11:36 AM
I know it was talked about earlier, but holy moly did I love re-discovering Winger!  Finally got thru Pull, IV, and Karma and hot damn all three were chubby inducing.

Time for something (kinda) new.  My last.fm recommended Pride of Lions.  Why you ask?  Fronted by Toby Hitchcock.  I know Kade either knows them or will check them out, but man does Hitchcock have a wonderfully smooth voice.

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41rf4Jb7yML._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

They've got a few releases, and are out on Grooveshark for all to explore.

Indeed I do know this amazing band Chad.  Toby's voice is amazing, and Jim writes some killer tunes.  This debut is easily POL's best album, it's melodic rock perfection all the way through.  Look out for a new POL album this year.  Toby's and Jim's harmonies are amazing too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2012, 03:58:27 AM
Listening to this for the first time;

(https://hardrockhaven.net/online/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Magnum-Evolution-2011-500x474.jpg)

I frickin' love Magnum.  Amazing, British AOR.  This new release is re-recorded and remixed tracks form their last ten years and five albums.  Brilliantly done, great collection of songs, and every song sounds a lot fresher and heavier. 

Everyone should check out Magnum.  I'd start with these;

(https://www.chartstats.com/images/artwork/31345.jpg)

(https://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/2438/cover_24097112009.jpg)

Both of these are absolute melodic rock classics.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2012, 03:16:30 PM
Two complete beauties there. Not as enamoured with anything after WOH tbh. I saw these countless times in the late 80s early 90s. Great band live, and Uncle Bob is a great vocalist. They do a great song called Down To Earth that wasn't on album. Well worth checking out and its on the remaster of Chasing The Dragon. my favourite song by them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2012, 05:23:12 PM
Down to Earth is one of my favs from Magnum aswell.  unbelievable that it wasn't included on an album.  One of their most catchiest and rocking tunes. 

Evolution is a good snapshot to see what they have done in the 2000's.  I must admit, they never ever topped WOH, or OASN either.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 06, 2012, 07:26:52 PM
I've always meant to check out Magnum; I've heard nothing but good things.  They seem to have a pretty good cult following.  I think they have a best of, might be the best place to start.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2012, 07:52:35 PM
Yeah they have a couple of good best of selections, check them out, I think you will like them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 14, 2012, 01:45:51 PM
Dug this out today. Great band, Jeff Scott Soto is a great singer. RIP Marcel Jacob.
Got all their albums and most are worth getting for a Melodic Rock fan. This best of sums them up nicely.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bmYiuWibUmM/TXZHzIRv08I/AAAAAAAAK40/OAhxHwhQNDU/s320/ZZ.JPG)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 14, 2012, 01:49:16 PM
Such an amazing band.  Their Five Men Live DVD is one of the greatest live performances IMO, the band was just so damn tight.  The only album I'm missing is Cats and Dogs, but I have everything else.  I was floored when I heard of Jacob's suicide, such a tragedy.  Great band, JSS at his best right here in this band.  It's great to hear Fredrick in this sort of band too.  I prefer him in the melodic rock style as opposed to Opeth.  It's amazing how many people have no idea that he came from this sort of band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 15, 2012, 01:14:23 PM
Such an amazing band.  Their Five Men Live DVD is one of the greatest live performances IMO, the band was just so damn tight.  The only album I'm missing is Cats and Dogs, but I have everything else.  I was floored when I heard of Jacob's suicide, such a tragedy.  Great band, JSS at his best right here in this band.  It's great to hear Fredrick in this sort of band too.  I prefer him in the melodic rock style as opposed to Opeth.  It's amazing how many people have no idea that he came from this sort of band.

Not being an Opeth fan I hadn't even realised it was him.
Cats And Dogs is pretty good. Not their best, and not as good as 7, but better than alot out there.

To change the subject, there are clips of the new Crazy Lixx up on Melodicrock.com. Not listened yet and have heard it's a bit punky and a change in sound from the last (awesome) album.
And a new WigWam coming too  :metal

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2012, 02:47:53 PM
I never checked out Crazy Lixx.  I think their image actually put me off a little.  I should give them a try.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2012, 05:06:37 PM
I'm really digging The Magnificent album at the moment.  It's amazing, every song is killer and filled with great vocals, guitars and melodies, what an album!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2012, 01:22:08 AM
I never checked out Crazy Lixx.  I think their image actually put me off a little.  I should give them a try.

The last one was excellent. Not too fussed about their first, it was sleazier as opposed to a more Danger Danger/Def Leppard vibe on New Religion. Listened to the samples from the new one last night and it sounded ok. Didn't get a punky/sleazy vibe from it as I'd been lead to believe from MR.com's forum.
Still not played the Magnificent enough to give a verdict. Must put that right.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 16, 2012, 02:05:36 AM
I never checked out Crazy Lixx.  I think their image actually put me off a little.  I should give them a try.

The last one was excellent. Not too fussed about their first, it was sleazier as opposed to a more Danger Danger/Def Leppard vibe on New Religion. Listened to the samples from the new one last night and it sounded ok. Didn't get a punky/sleazy vibe from it as I'd been lead to believe from MR.com's forum.
Still not played the Magnificent enough to give a verdict. Must put that right.

I don't like the first Crazy Lixx album at all (too punky), but I love New Religion (man, where were you when I used it for the "guess the album cover" game?  :biggrin: ). I heard the new samples, and they sounded alright. Riot Avenue is easily the best of the samples, but the other two didn't grab me. But I'm notorious for hating samples when I end up loving the album.

They kept suggesting that the new album was going to be more raw rock, although it luckily doesn't sound like too much of a departure from the last album to me. There are already enough generic faux sleaze GNR wannabe bands going around right now.  :\
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2012, 09:58:00 AM
I never checked out Crazy Lixx.  I think their image actually put me off a little.  I should give them a try.

The last one was excellent. Not too fussed about their first, it was sleazier as opposed to a more Danger Danger/Def Leppard vibe on New Religion. Listened to the samples from the new one last night and it sounded ok. Didn't get a punky/sleazy vibe from it as I'd been lead to believe from MR.com's forum.
Still not played the Magnificent enough to give a verdict. Must put that right.

I don't like the first Crazy Lixx album at all (too punky), but I love New Religion (man, where were you when I used it for the "guess the album cover" game?  :biggrin: ). I heard the new samples, and they sounded alright. Riot Avenue is easily the best of the samples, but the other two didn't grab me. But I'm notorious for hating samples when I end up loving the album.

They kept suggesting that the new album was going to be more raw rock, although it luckily doesn't sound like too much of a departure from the last album to me. There are already enough generic faux sleaze GNR wannabe bands going around right now.  :\

Yeah, I did a  :facepalm: when I realised I hadn't got that cover. I just don't spend the time studying covers like back in the day!
The samples sounded ok, certainly not awful. Will reserve judgment until I hear the whole thing, at a decent volume.
Have you heard any Chris Laney? Similar vibe but his voice isn't as good. Worth hearing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 16, 2012, 10:26:50 AM
Have you heard any Chris Laney? Similar vibe but his voice isn't as good. Worth hearing.

Never heard of him, so I just checked out a couple of songs on Youtube, and definitely digging what I'm hearing. :tup I think I'll definitely be grabbing an album of his.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2012, 10:58:13 AM
Chris Laney produced the Crazy Lixx New Religion album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2012, 03:03:12 PM
Here's one I just gave a listen to;

(https://www.israbox.com/uploads/posts/2011-06/1309438614_400.jpg)

Great melodic rock with Lars from Work of Art.  No frills, melodic, catchy AOR, definitely recommended.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on February 16, 2012, 04:55:07 PM
I'm really digging The Magnificent album at the moment.  It's amazing, every song is killer and filled with great vocals, guitars and melodies, what an album!!

:tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2012, 04:58:39 PM
Are you still spinning it Zook?  As I said, I am super impressed with this album.  Michael's vocals fit this type of music so damn well.  Hope to see more of him in this style.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on February 16, 2012, 05:08:17 PM
Are you still spinning it Zook?  As I said, I am super impressed with this album.  Michael's vocals fit this type of music so damn well.  Hope to see more of him in this style.

Since our ipod privileges have been taken away at work, my music listening has dropped considerably, but yeah, I still think the album is great. I hope they make a follow up!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2012, 05:13:05 PM
Totally.  Fav tracks;

Holding on to Your Love
Cheated By Love
Bullets
Tired of Dreaming
Lost

But all songs are killer.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on February 16, 2012, 07:02:05 PM
The only weak tracks for me (and they still aren't bad at all) are Bullets and Harvest Moon. My favorite song is Memories. Holding On To Your Love, Cheated By Love and Memories is one hell of a start to an album.

And I have one hell of a man crush on Michael Eriksen :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2012, 09:07:35 PM
Interesting that you think Bullets is the weakest.  I love the smooth groove and AOR feel of the chorus.  Memories is probably next on my list after those five I listed.  Good song, but I like the others more.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 17, 2012, 10:08:01 AM
Chris Laney produced the Crazy Lixx New Religion album.

I did not know that. The more you know!

I just grabbed both albums. On first listen, first album had a couple of great songs, although overall it didn't grab me. Gonna give it another listen tomorrow and see how that goes.
I've just started on Only Come Out at Night, and the first 2 tracks were great. That's as far as I've gotten so far.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2012, 02:54:00 PM
I'm gonna have to check out this band, I have not heard a single second of their music.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2012, 09:36:03 AM
I think these guys came up somewhere in the past 8 pages (too lazy to look, and 'search' didn't find anything), but I just had a marathon with House of Lords.  Very, VERY nice.  Particularly loved Sahara, Demon's Down, Cartesian Dreams and Big Money.  And some pretty decent artwork too.

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51qZPgvgdyL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Yet another band I'll eventually need to pick up a big catalog (8 albums) from.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 03, 2012, 02:09:56 PM
I love that cover. Album's good too.
For me, every other album is a good one: loved the S/t, Sahara not as good. Loved Demon's Down, Power & The Myth is great but not a HoL album. World Upside Down was great, CTMK not. Cartesian Dreams was great, Big Money wasn't.
I could be the only person in the world who loves TP&TM. Ken Mary owns that album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2012, 02:31:04 PM
I never understood the hate for Power and The Myth, really enjoyable album IMO.  Cartesian Dreams is possibly HOL at their best though.  Big Money didn't click with me at the start, but now, I like it as much as Cartesian Dreams.  The production lets it down but the songs are absolutely stellar IMO. Great band, loves Jimi's guitar playing and James Christian is wonderful.

You guys should check James Christian's solo album Meet the Man, great straight forward AOR, simple, amazing, I love it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 03, 2012, 04:46:46 PM
I never understood the hate for Power and The Myth, really enjoyable album IMO.  Cartesian Dreams is possibly HOL at their best though.  Big Money didn't click with me at the start, but now, I like it as much as Cartesian Dreams.  The production lets it down but the songs are absolutely stellar IMO. Great band, loves Jimi's guitar playing and James Christian is wonderful.

You guys should check James Christian's solo album Meet the Man, great straight forward AOR, simple, amazing, I love it.

Yeah, I've got that. Good album. Agree on Jimi's guitar playing too. Lanny Cordola was a really good player- saw that original line-up (minus Guiffria of course) at Firefest a few years ago on the P&TM tour. They were good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 03, 2012, 05:45:08 PM
Demons Down is my fav from HoL.  The lead off track is awesome.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2012, 03:12:48 AM
I haven't got Demons Down, but I've only heard good things about it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 04, 2012, 12:23:10 PM
I haven't got Demons Down, but I've only heard good things about it.

Time to put that right Wolfie! It's by far HoL's best.

Been listening to this today. Highly recommended.

(https://www.heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/R/REDDAWN1.JPG)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7kFJaX5v90&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL7436BFB822B9DC8D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jnzPdmT0CI

And from the (almost) present day...

(https://hardrockheavymetal.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/ratt_infestation_7863_hr.jpg?w=614)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2012, 01:30:50 PM
Unfamiliar with Red Dawn, will check that out when I'm home.

That new Ratt one was really enjoyable.  I was just a very casual Ratt fan, but Infestation was a big surprise, really good album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 04, 2012, 02:41:09 PM
Unfamiliar with Red Dawn, will check that out when I'm home.

That new Ratt one was really enjoyable.  I was just a very casual Ratt fan, but Infestation was a big surprise, really good album.

I was a pretty big fan, though all their albums had filler, and Pearcy's voice isn't the best. Warren DeMartini is a favourite of mine for lead and rhythm, and he has a great tone. I really enjoyed the s/t album of a few years ago. I was pleasantly surprised by Infestation.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2012, 02:46:48 PM
Yeah, Warren has always been very underrated IMO, great guitarist.  I might give Infestation a spin tonight, good stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 04, 2012, 06:20:50 PM
I was really surprised and happy with the latest Ratt.  For me, that album along with, Accept "Blood of the Nations", and of course the new VH, is the kind of new albums that 70's/80's metal/rock bands should make.  Has a classic sound, yet not dated.  I wish Queensryche would analize their sound and realize what they should be releasing.  But Wolf, Demons Down might be a little difficult to find, but you will love it- guaranteed!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2012, 09:08:17 PM
I've checked my normal site I buy cd's from and they don't have it.  It's time to go to ebay, sounds promising from the recommendations from you guys.

Agree with Accept, what a record, can't wait for Starlingrad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 05, 2012, 02:24:14 PM
I've checked my normal site I buy cd's from and they don't have it.  It's time to go to ebay, sounds promising from the recommendations from you guys.

Agree with Accept, what a record, can't wait for Starlingrad.

Have you checked out the Stalingrad track on Youtube? Absolutely brilliant song. Could never get into Accept because of Udo, and the new guy sounds like him, just better. Stronger voice I think.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 05, 2012, 03:04:09 PM
I've checked my normal site I buy cd's from and they don't have it.  It's time to go to ebay, sounds promising from the recommendations from you guys.

Agree with Accept, what a record, can't wait for Starlingrad.

Have you checked out the Stalingrad track on Youtube? Absolutely brilliant song. Could never get into Accept because of Udo, and the new guy sounds like him, just better. Stronger voice I think.

I'm a huge UDO fan, but never really got into Accept except Restless and Wild and Metal Heart.  I am more of a fan of UDO's solo band.  Mark Tornillo is the perfect vocalist for Accept, he breathed so much life into the band, and now the band is better than before.  The new track is absolutely amazing, can't wait.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 18, 2012, 06:41:13 AM
Just been listening to this that may have passed some of you by. It has Eric Martin on vocals, Jack Blades on bass and bv, Brian Tichy on drums. Excellent modern-sounding melodic hard rock with a hint of the oriental in it. Worth checking out.

(https://991.com/newGallery/Tak-Matsumoto-TMG-I-365192.jpg)

And bumping to catch the attention of those joining in the 80s MTV videos threads.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 18, 2012, 08:06:39 PM
That looks like an interesting combination, this is completely new to me, I don't even remember seeing this on melodicrock.com.  When was it released?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 19, 2012, 04:13:11 AM
That looks like an interesting combination, this is completely new to me, I don't even remember seeing this on melodicrock.com.  When was it released?

2004. IIRC Andrew gave it a glowing review (99 or 100) at the time.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2012, 04:29:29 AM
That looks like an interesting combination, this is completely new to me, I don't even remember seeing this on melodicrock.com.  When was it released?

2004. IIRC Andrew gave it a glowing review (99 or 100) at the time.

Ah, it's that old, no wonder I haven't heard of it. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 19, 2012, 06:04:08 AM
That looks like an interesting combination, this is completely new to me, I don't even remember seeing this on melodicrock.com.  When was it released?

2004. IIRC Andrew gave it a glowing review (99 or 100) at the time.

Ah, it's that old, no wonder I haven't heard of it.


Thanks for that. I don't need reminding how old I am! That's a "new" album for me! lol  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2012, 03:56:50 PM
That looks like an interesting combination, this is completely new to me, I don't even remember seeing this on melodicrock.com.  When was it released?

2004. IIRC Andrew gave it a glowing review (99 or 100) at the time.

Ah, it's that old, no wonder I haven't heard of it.


Thanks for that. I don't need reminding how old I am! That's a "new" album for me! lol  :biggrin:

 :lol No I meant that I've only really been heavily into melodic rock for the last 5 or 6 years so that explains why I'm unfamilar with this one.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 25, 2012, 09:01:14 AM
Mother of God, how did I ever miss this? ? ?

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61CGVB1ZWCL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

*searching web frantically*.  Found the entire show (I think) on youtube.  I'm giddy with anticipation as I download it to watch later.

$10 on iTunes for the audio. *contemplates*
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 25, 2012, 11:58:11 AM
Mother of God, how did I ever miss this? ? ?

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61CGVB1ZWCL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

*searching web frantically*.  Found the entire show (I think) on youtube.  I'm giddy with anticipation as I download it to watch later.

$10 on iTunes for the audio. *contemplates*

I was at this show and was so disappointed in Hardline, some sound or monitor problems I think. Those backing singers  weren't great I remember. not been tempted to buy the dvd or audio personally.
Saw them supporting someone (can't remember who- maybe Extreme?) back in the day with Schon still in the band and they were excellent. Johnny is a great singer and does great stuff with Axel Rudi Pell.
Their second album was awful and the third one strangely proggy but much better.

I've had a good melodic rock day cos it's been a beautiful day in the north of England- yes we very occaisionally get them. A day off too. Today is probably summer!
listened to both Damn Yankees albums, Giant's Time To Burn, John Norum's Total Control, the first Danger Danger, now listening to Europe's Out Of This World. And time with the kids. Good times.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 25, 2012, 02:44:11 PM
Too funny... I was listening to some Europe and Damn Yankee's earlier today.

Well, I'll check the YT video of the concert, and get back to you on my thoughts.  You're absolutely right, II sucked (although I listened to it earlier this week, and it wasn't AS bad as when I first heard it).  Double Eclipse is a Top 10 album for me, and Leaving the End Open is pretty righteous too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 25, 2012, 06:53:47 PM
I've seen some of the clips on youtube too and it wasn't a great performance.  Lowdz is right, the backup singers are shit.

I really like the first album but Leaving the End Open is amazing.  I haven't got II but I don't think it could beat LTEO for me.

Listened to Danger Danger Revolve yesterday.  Easily one of the finest melodic rock album of the last 10 years, perfect.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 25, 2012, 07:13:27 PM
II is a massive step below both DE and LTEO.  It would only disappoint you.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 25, 2012, 07:24:22 PM
II is a massive step below both DE and LTEO.  It would only disappoint you.

Alright, that's what I've heard before.  I won't worry about it, only if I can get it dirt cheap.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 26, 2012, 06:09:29 AM
I love that cover. Album's good too.
For me, every other album is a good one: loved the S/t, Sahara not as good. Loved Demon's Down, Power & The Myth is great but not a HoL album. World Upside Down was great, CTMK not. Cartesian Dreams was great, Big Money wasn't.
I could be the only person in the world who loves TP&TM. Ken Mary owns that album.
Not into House Of Lords but Ken Mary is awesome. Maybe I should check them out.
Anyway, I met Ken Mary backstage when he was with Alice Cooper in 1987 at the Boston Garden.
I'm covered in blood from being right up front!

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/KM.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 26, 2012, 02:26:33 PM
Hardline have a new album due. I'm excited because Alessandro Del Vechio is a talented guy, and a really good singer. Will probably be a return to the more melodic sound of the debut rather than the proggier LTEO. Samples sound good.

As always, melodicrock.com is the place for news!

https://www.melodicrock.com/

Ken Mary is a great drummer. Cool pic!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 26, 2012, 02:48:52 PM
Oh hell yeah!!!

https://www.frontiers.it/news/10548/

Quote
HARDLINEs lineup revolution welcomes you in the Danger Zone

Frontiers Records is pleased to announce the release of HARDLINEs new studio album entitled Danger Zone on May 18th in Europe and May 22nd in North America.

Following the release of Leaving The End Open, HARDLINEs mastermind and singer Johnny Gioeli did not realistically feel that another HARDLINE album would have seen the light of day sometime soon. It was again thanks to the insistence of Frontiers Records President Serafino Perugino that the concept came about once again I love surprises and this was certainly one of them, says Gioeli. Each time I decide to close the door on Hardline, I get the itch to continue.

Fate wanted that when Perugino sent Gioeli some song demos written by Alessandro Del Vecchio (an Italian musician and producer know for his work with Edge of Forever and Edens Curse but also with Axe, Mitch Malloy, Bobby Kimball and several other top musicians and bands), the singer became excited once again and wanted to give it another go.

Ale is one talented brotha... tells Johnny, he plays, writes, sings, engineers, produces and mixes... He's like the golden goose handed to me. More than all the talent he has, he is an example of a great human in many many ways. I look forward to making more music with Ale. And it doesn't hurt that he's Italian too! Alessandro Del Vecchio says: I feel humbled but at the same time excited as never before. I grew up with Double Eclipse, which I bought when I was 13, so it's really a combination of feelings. The whole thing started so naturally that I feel like me and Johnny have been knowing each other for years. Our goal was to match the superb quality of that milestone of a debut and we worked hard to get to it, but we also wanted this record to be a shift and the truthful mirror of this "new" life for Hardline. And, according to Gioeli I think all of the Hardline records have a magic about them... this one certainly holds a more commercial pop sound to its heartbeat. I love it.

So now Hardline have been completed with a European based lineup featuring Francesco Jovino (UDO), Thorsten Koehne (Code Of Perfection, Eden's Curse) and Anna Portalupi (Mitch Malloy).

I would absolutely LOVE to tour with these guys. I think the fans would be quite surprised when they hear this band....like a good solid kick in the teeth concludes Gioeli and certainly discussions are ongoing to have finally Hardline play some dates around Europe in support of this exciting new release.

Danger Zone tracklisting includes:
Fever Dreams; 10.000 Reasons; Danger Zone; What I'd Like; Stronger Than Me; Never Too Late For Love; Stay; I Don't Want To Breakaway; Look At You Now; Please Have Faith In Me; Show Me Your Love; The Only One.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 26, 2012, 03:19:02 PM
I'm not familiar with Hardline at all. Any track recomendations?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 26, 2012, 03:29:27 PM
From Double Eclipse - Bad Taste, Hot Cherie, I'll Be There, In the Hands of Time
From II - skip it (that's not a song ... literally, skip it)
From Leaving the End Open - Voices, She Sleeps in Madness, Before This, Leaving the End Open

As Lowdz said, DE is more melodic; LTEO is more prog.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 26, 2012, 04:09:19 PM
TAC, amazing pic.

And second, oh fuck yeah!!  Quite ironic we were discussing Hardline yesterday and now we get news on a new album the next day.  I really liked Jash Ramos' guitar playing, but Thorsten is an absolute amazing guitarists, one of the best around today and he will make this even more special.

The samples sound absolutely killer too, serioulsy can't wait for this.  This just climbed to the top of my most anticipated list.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 28, 2012, 06:18:02 AM
The new Tyketto and Trixter samples sound good too.

That first Tyketto album, Don't Come Easy, was a classic. forever Young is a Melodi Rock masterpiece.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 28, 2012, 06:22:27 AM
I've seen some of the clips on youtube too and it wasn't a great performance.  Lowdz is right, the backup singers are shit.

Watched the first 3 songs... you guys are right, they make my ears bleed.  Johnny even looks at them, the stage crew, and Ramos constantly like "What! The! Fuck!".  Even tells the crowd it sounds like shit on the stage.   :lol

Also, not sure why I didn't pay attention to the Axel Rudi Pell comment ... never knew Johnny had like 8 albums there too.   >:(  More albums I want!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 28, 2012, 06:29:26 AM
Never really checked out Tyketto. Was a huge fan of Waysted when Danny Vaughn did the Save Your Prayers album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 28, 2012, 03:25:46 PM
Never really checked out Tyketto. Was a huge fan of Waysted when Danny Vaughn did the Save Your Prayers album.

The first two albums were very good. Danny has a great voice.

And jingle.boy, you need Oceans Of Time by ARP, though all the albums are pretty similar. Knights Treasures dvd is worth getting too.

I got the first ARP album, long before Joey and Jeff Scott Soto, and that's my favourite. The compilation The Wizard's Chosen Few is a good starting place.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 28, 2012, 04:40:08 PM
Never really checked out Tyketto. Was a huge fan of Waysted when Danny Vaughn did the Save Your Prayers album.

The first two albums were very good. Danny has a great voice.

And jingle.boy, you need Oceans Of Time by ARP, though all the albums are pretty similar. Knights Treasures dvd is worth getting too.

I got the first ARP album, long before Joey and Jeff Scott Soto, and that's my favourite. The compilation The Wizard's Chosen Few is a good starting place.

Discog seems to be out on Grooveshark.  I'll be working my way thru it.  Had a listen to Oceans last night.  Liked what I heard.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 28, 2012, 04:48:16 PM
Another band.  Anyone heard this album?  I always loved it.  More on the heavier side of Melodic, that's for sure. 

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61GxgI47k2L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Bob Rock (legendary producer), actually formed the band.  Unfortunately, it's the one and only album of their's, as it was kind of a commercial flop, so they disbanded.  Great album though. They've got a handful of tracks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKXfjGgxKBg&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=AL94UKMTqg-9CaYgSsbr_v9zpPzGXSivks) out on YT -  Bed of Roses being my favorite.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2012, 09:03:04 PM
Never really got into Tyketto.  I like Danny Vaghun though. From the Inside is a great project and his solo album is great too.

Chad, Axel Rudi Pell is where I first heard about Johnny.  Good, classic hard rock.  Check Oceans of Time, King and Queens, Masquerade Ball, Tales of the Crown, well fuck they are all really good albums, very melodic too.

Haven't heard of Rockead, will check it out later.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 29, 2012, 06:05:49 AM
Another band.  Anyone heard this album?  I always loved it.  More on the heavier side of Melodic, that's for sure. 

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61GxgI47k2L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Bob Rock (legendary producer), actually formed the band.  Unfortunately, it's the one and only album of their's, as it was kind of a commercial flop, so they disbanded.  Great album though. They've got a handful of tracks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKXfjGgxKBg&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=AL94UKMTqg-9CaYgSsbr_v9zpPzGXSivks) out on YT -  Bed of Roses being my favorite.

Never heard of Rockhead, though I new Bob Rock was a musician. Those tracks sound interesting. Will now try to track down a copy...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 30, 2012, 05:47:31 AM
Just got the new Sunstorm in the mail.  Haven't listened to it yet.  But I also just ordered this;

(https://www.woundedbird.com/fandango/449.jpg)

Always been meaning to order this one, and I got it for 11 bucks!  Fuckin' love JLT.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 31, 2012, 02:06:12 PM
Played this today after not playing it for years. Some great songs, a couple of fillers, a very good singer too.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QRsQBPv13X0/TjMJ24pHD2I/AAAAAAAAAms/ZZ44lmtg7N8/s1600/Richie+Sambora+-+Stranger+In+This+Town.jpg)

and this

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/617YKV3EBNL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Dann Huff is a great guitarist and singer. I prefer the first album but this is up there with the best of the genre too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2012, 05:35:43 PM
Giant are an excellent band.  I've listened to that Richie Sambora album a couple of times, and I really never cared for it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2012, 05:12:34 AM
Sunstorm - Emotional Fire

(https://www.melodic.net/img/cover/img8/emotionalfire.jpg)

I have only had this album for about 4 or 5 days, but it is scratching me right where I itch.  I only acquired the first Sunstorm album buy buying the album online, I haven't been able to find it at a reasonable price yet.  I liked it, but it didn't hit me like House of Dreams did.  House of Dreams is simply one of the finest melodic rock albums for some years IMO, every song had something to offer and the killer tracks were extra special.  Tracks like Divided, I Found Love, Gutters of Gold, The Spririt Inside, Don't Give Up and the title track are simply perfect.

When Emotional Fire was announced I was instantly counting down to the release date.  I eventually got it and I am so pleased I have this one.  Dennis Ward handles the production and right there you know you are gonna get an excellent sounding record.  Uwe Reitienauer returns and handles the leads this time.  Chris Schmidt is back too and a fellow called Justin Dukey handles the keyboards.

This album is made up of simple, short, even somewhat generic AOR/melodic rock style songs.  The longest song checks in at only 4:03, and the whole album is over by 43 minutes.  Joe sounds great for his age, and his tone and passion is still as strong as ever, he does a really great job and has some highs still in him.  I call the songs generic in the sense that there is nothing new here, but one shouldn't expect anything new.  If you enjoy catchy, hook laden melodic songs, this is an album for you.  It's one album that's instant and doesn't need 100 listens to grow on you, it's there and it makes no apologies.

Never Give Up is the first track and is the best track on the album.  Written by the amazing Robert Sall of Work of Art, this is one guy who is writing some amazing music lately with his own band and for others.  Similar to Divided, it's catchy, rocking, and Joe sounds like he is loving this one.  The pre chorus gives me goose bumps, and the lyrics are typical AOR, but it's just really well done.  A good start.

Emotional Fire is next and is a cover of a Cher song.  The album has 3 covers that featured Turner in the backing vox department back in the day, this song being one of them.  Written by Michael Bolton, Dionne Warren and Desmond Child, you know this song is perfect pop.  Killer chorus here and a great groove.  I prefer this over the original as I was never much of a Cher fan.

Lay Down our Arms is a smooth, somber, somewhat depressing piece with lyrics about a lost love.  The chorus here absolutely kicks you in the face, it's emotional and just so melodic.  The keys in the middle are a nice touch too.  I would have liked a ripping guitar solo, but for what it is, it does the job nicely.

You Wouldn't Know Love is another cover by Dianne Warren and Michael Bolton.  I believe both Cher and Michael Bolton have done this one.  It's simple, good but nothing really outstanding.  I'm listening to the Michael Bolton version right now and I like that better.  Bolton is king.

Wish You Were Here is pretty generic when it comes to AOR and grooves along nicely.  The main riffs and verses are pretty average, but the chorus makes up for it, fantastic, uplifting chorus.  I just wish the rest were as strong to carry this chorus.

Torn in Half written by Soren Kronqvist is again AOR by numbers, but like the others the chrous kicks ass and makes the song strong as hell.

Gina, the Michael Bolton hit is IMO a weaker one.  It's a little dated and the original is much better.  Joe tunes down on this one as it's clear he can't hit the same notes that Bolton did in the original, not that anyone really expects him too.  It's listenable, but nothing extrodinary.

The Higher You Rise again by Robert Sall is a nice change of pace and somwhat darker at times.  Robert Sall writes gold IMO and the tougher chorus here is perfect, and Joe delivers it really well.

Emily is next and I really like this one.  A bit faster and has some excellent keyboard patches.  Great chorus, nothing over the top but melodic and fitting.

Follow Your Heart is the most pop/AOR song on the album.  It's good, but filler, very generic.

All I Am is the last track and is the big ballad of the album.  For me, it lacks, and just doesn't do much for me at all.  Written by the amazing Tom and James Martin, I guess I just expected more.

This album, I really can just call solid.  Every song has something to offer, more than others, but it doesn't have as many highlights as House of Dreams, but is much more consistent, which I like.  If you like melodic catchy music, you should give this a go.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2012, 05:37:11 AM
Mecca - Undeniable

(https://www.israbox.com/uploads/posts/2011-11/1320461890_500.jpg)

I've had this one for a while, but it's been a tough one for me to get into.  I knew nothing about Mecca and only really got the album because of Andrew's melodicrock.com 100% review.  Little did I know that him and the main man of this band are good friends.  Tommy Denander on guitars helped me purchase this too.

This is a very original sounding album.  The songs are unique and the overall feel and tone of the songs is not like any other AOR act out there.  I wouldn't even know what to compare it to.  I guess the closest thing I could compare it to would be Toto, Fredric Salma's AOR project or maybe even Mr Mister.  The sound this band is going for I'm not really familiar with, put it that way.

The production is top notch, great guitar tones, keyboard tones, and the album breathes so much.  Nothing over produced and everything is mixed, balanced and heard well.  Joe Vana's vocal style is very different and unique.  His vocals fit the music well, although sometimes I feel his vocals don't really show much variety.  That could be blamed on the songs though.  The songs didn't hit me at first, and I found myself putting the cd away thinking that it wasn't for me.  I got it out again with fresh ears and really enjoyed it.  I do feel the songs are all a bit samey, and Joe's melodies sometimes repeat themselves.  Not a big issue, as I don't mind that consistency in an album

Perfect World is a great rocker, and straight AOR.  Great guitar solo here too.  This song actually annoyed me at first as Joe's diction in the chours, it just sounds wrong and the words don't fit the melody that's written.  Apart from that, a killer melodic piece.

Closing Time has some modern keyboards which kick things off before a staggered guitar riff comes in and gives things a nice groove.  The chorus here is wonderul.  Uplifting, bright, melodic and some great harmonies.  Good song.

A slower piece is up next with Ten Lifetimes.  The song is pretty relaxed and the verses have a lot of room to breathe.  Good chorus again, but by this time you're getting that feeling that the songs are a little too samey.

Life's Too Short starts with more of a funk groove until Joe comes in with a rap which is laughable.  When the pre chorus comes in, it's beautiful.  The sounds and dynamics of this album really are fantastic.  The chorus is similar to Ten Lifetimes but is still great to listen to.

I Know really reminds me of Toto.  Great keyboards, here but again, the song structure and Joe's vocals don't offer much variety and the chorus while good is reminiscent of the songs before it.

Another Toto style song is next with Did It For Love.  I love the chorus here, it's pure pop, bright and beautiful.  Killer solo here too.

From the Start is filler material but the chorus again is decent and melodic.

Deceptive Cadence is a slower number and not really one of my favs.  As all the songs are at a similar laid back tempo, a slow one like this just seems to make things drag.  It's nice but not one of my favs

W2W is the one true rocker of the album.  I've been waiting for this one.  Vocal melodies strongly remind me of Perfect World and again Joe doesn't vary his vocals much depending on the song.  I'm not dissing his vocals, as I find his voice, soothing, strong, and really good to listen too, but a little variety in delievery would be good.

Undeniable has a killer chorus.  A ballad again, but my kind of ballad.  Simply killer chorus makes this a highlight.

As I Walk Alone is just Joe with a piano which doesn't do anything for me.

Overall, I think I'm pretty harsh on this album, but I still have come to really enjoy the album.  My point about the songs being samey is really something I don't mind, it's just an observation.  It doesn't detract from my listening pleasure, but to someone that wants variety in an album may be left a little disappointed. 

I really like Joe's voice as he is different, and would love to check out his other work.  The band is strong and the sound and production of this cd is the best I've heard for a long time.  I would recommend this album to someone who wants something smooth and laid back, just don't expect all out rock like Sunstorm or something of the kind, this is a different beast.  I would encourage people to listen to see if they like the sound, as it's exciting original and just a joy to listen too.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2012, 05:47:03 AM
Wow... thanks for the writeups Kade.  Sunstorm has a bunch of covers ... not usually a fan of that.  But, I'll keep it on the radar.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 02, 2012, 03:21:49 PM
I like both of those Wolfie. The Sunstorm probably a bit more. I was familiar with several of these songs previously but JLT has the pipes to make them sound great. Agree that House Of Dreams is a great album.
One thing annoys me with the Mecca- In A Perfect World, when Joe sings "in a perfect-ah world"- winds me up, like fiingernails down a blackboard. Pity as I like the song other than that.

Been getting into Autograph lately. Totally missed them first time round but for 80s American rock it's pretty good. They did a more recent album too (Buzz) which was very good.

Anyway, I drop the family off at the inlaws' at the other end of the country tomorrow which gives me nearly a whole week of peace. Some serious music listening will be done and the Ibanez and Marshall combo will get an airing too. Can't wait.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 02, 2012, 03:36:26 PM
So wait, JLT is the singer on Sunstorm?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on April 02, 2012, 03:53:21 PM
I loved JLT's solo album.

I found Sambora's solo album hit and miss.

Giant's second album is good but not as good as the first album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2012, 04:25:33 PM
Wow... thanks for the writeups Kade.  Sunstorm has a bunch of covers ... not usually a fan of that.  But, I'll keep it on the radar.

No worries mate.  Agree about the covers, but luckily they aren't well known songs, if they were covers of top 40 80's hits, that would annoy me.  Plus apparently, JLT sang backing on the 3 songs anyway so he wanted to his own versions.


So wait, JLT is the singer on Sunstorm?

Yes

One thing annoys me with the Mecca- In A Perfect World, when Joe sings "in a perfect-ah world"- winds me up, like fiingernails down a blackboard. Pity as I like the song other than that.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about in my writeup of that song about his diction and the words not fitting the melody.  The first time I heard it, I was like "What the hell is he saying perfecta world for"  It pisses me off too mate, totally.  It's almost embarrasing listening to the chorus, but the song is so damn good, such a shame.  Glad someone else likes the Sunstorm too Lowdz, I'm really enjoying it. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 02, 2012, 05:34:14 PM
OK, well, I'll check out Sunstorm!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2012, 03:55:44 AM
OK, well, I'll check out Sunstorm!

Do it.  I'm in love with this cd.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 04, 2012, 04:06:52 PM
OK, well, I'll check out Sunstorm!

Do it.  I'm in love with this cd.
Wolfie, I am so sorry to say this, but I only made it through 4 songs on House Of Dreams before I had to turn it off. Not even Michael Kiske could save the second Place Vendome album, and I'm not sure he could save this one. It's like eating cotton candy. There's just nothing to it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2012, 05:03:17 PM
You don't need to apologize, if you don't like it, then you don't like it.  But what made you dislike it so much?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 05, 2012, 03:17:29 AM
Andrew at mr.com has a raft of new reviews up, one of which I'd never heard of but on investigating on YT has proved to be something a bit excellent. Andrew's review wasn't exceptional- I think he gave it a 80-ish score, but some of these choruses are brilliant. Apparently the band were once metal-core (whatever that is), and some harsher vocals shake things up a bit here, but there's plenty of 80s influence in this with more modern sounds too. Plenty of widdly-style soloing going on aswell.
This album is going down really well in the sunshine today. Not had chance to live with it to see if it sticks, but first impressions are really good.
Give it a shot and see what you think if you haven't heard of them before.

Blessed By A Broken Heart- Feel The Power

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0Ai-9itV4bE/TyqhszWgwSI/AAAAAAAAAYc/T8KPgebB3M0/s1600/Blessed%2BBy%2BA%2BBroken%2BHeart%2B-%2BFeel%2BThe%2BPower.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GmQZzLFhCM

And the new H.E.A.T. album is so much better than the previous ones.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2012, 03:57:29 AM
Hmmm...that trailer isn't doing much for me Lowdz, but I'd like to hear some full songs, it could have potential.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2012, 05:53:01 AM
For some reason when I click the reviews link on melodic rock, it's the page without the new reviews, it says the page has been updated, but none of the new reviews are there, weird.

Edit: Just refreshed the page and they came up, weird.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 05, 2012, 08:21:18 AM
Hmmm...that trailer isn't doing much for me Lowdz, but I'd like to hear some full songs, it could have potential.

No worries. Try this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPGBGgGdx1U

I enjoyed it.

Have you heard the new JSS?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 05, 2012, 04:24:40 PM
You don't need to apologize, if you don't like it, then you don't like it.  But what made you dislike it so much?
Well, it's just so bland and generic. Reminded me of why I stopped listening to the radio. There's no substance, at least so far as I heard. The 4th track was the better of what I heard though.
And yikes has JLT lost his range!

(..puts on Difficult To Cure....)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2012, 04:27:39 PM
Hmmm...that trailer isn't doing much for me Lowdz, but I'd like to hear some full songs, it could have potential.

No worries. Try this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPGBGgGdx1U

I enjoyed it.

Have you heard the new JSS?


Solid song, not bad at all.  I might check this out afterall.

As for the JSS, I'm waiting for it in the mail, really looking forward to that one, you heard it?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2012, 04:31:25 PM
You don't need to apologize, if you don't like it, then you don't like it.  But what made you dislike it so much?
Well, it's just so bland and generic. Reminded me of why I stopped listening to the radio. There's no substance, at least so far as I heard. The 4th track was the better of what I heard though.
And yikes has JLT lost his range!

(..puts on Difficult To Cure....)

Yeah, he sounds weaker than the 80's but IMO, he still sounds great.  If you don't like the first 3 songs, then forget the rest, you won't like them at all.  If you think that's generic, don't try Emotional Fire.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 05, 2012, 04:59:39 PM
OK..advice heeded! :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2012, 07:42:16 PM
Just had a listen to the first Fifth Angel album.  I didn't expect it to be so much different from the second album.  A lot less commercial and more aggressive.  Good stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2012, 07:46:21 PM
Also, just listened to this album for the first time too;

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7s10lXbtPsE/TbRsbVkwM_I/AAAAAAAANeg/Es_Rbl_xpNQ/s1600/FrederiksenDenander2007.jpeg)

Absolutely amazing tunes all the way through.  Melodic songs Denander style with a hint of Toto, really really good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2012, 08:21:07 PM
Apologies for the triple post but damn I just listened to a couple of tracks from the HEAT album, that's amazing, I'm ordering that one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 06, 2012, 01:39:06 PM
The JSS is pretty good, certainly better than the last solo album. Nothing earthshattering, but good, solid rock album.

The Heat is very good. I certainly didn't rate the first two but the new singer is excellent and the guitars are a bit more present.
The Denander Fredriksen isn't really my cup of tea.

I was doing some painting last night, trying out the Audiogalaxy app on the iphone and after the heat album came the new Dynasty album. This one blew me away. The opener sounded like they were channeling the first Dio album- I almost thought it was the great man himself. the rest was excellent too, and another band that I hadn't really connected with on their previous albums. My favourite of the year so far I think.

Couldn't find much from the new one on YT but try this sampler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV1nw4t_Woc


Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 06, 2012, 04:03:34 PM
Dynasty? Never heard of them, but the Dio reference definitely puts them on The List.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2012, 04:13:13 PM
That sampler sounds pretty damn good.

Good to hear that the new JSS is pretty good.  i didn't rate Beautiful Mess at all, not my thing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 10, 2012, 04:23:35 AM
Lowdz, I got Blessed By a Broken Heart a couple of days ago.  Not normally my style, but enjoyed the album quite a lot.

Also, ordered all 3 HEAT albums.  The first two were only $8, and I got Address the Nation for $13.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 10, 2012, 05:25:53 AM
Lowdz, I got Blessed By a Broken Heart a couple of days ago.  Not normally my style, but enjoyed the album quite a lot.

Also, ordered all 3 HEAT albums.  The first two were only $8, and I got Address the Nation for $13.

Yeah I don't go for the screamo stuff but it's used sparingly on this album. From YT their older stuff has more of it so I'm not so inclined to work backwards.

That's a bargain on the Heat albums. There is a special edition with both early albums together- was that the one you got? Didn't rate the 1st one at all. The second was better but nothing that makes me want to reach for it. ATN is playing at the moment. Very good.
Waiting for the new trixter to arrive- samples sound good. Their second (Hear) was a great album so hoping it's in that vein.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2012, 04:52:21 AM
The first two HEAT albums were $7.95 each, or they had the special edition with both for $19.95, so it was cheaper to get them separate. I wouldn't have got them if they were any dearer just based on your opinions.

I'm actually really digging the Blessed By A Broken Heart.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 11, 2012, 09:29:55 AM
The first two HEAT albums were $7.95 each, or they had the special edition with both for $19.95, so it was cheaper to get them separate. I wouldn't have got them if they were any dearer just based on your opinions.

I'm actually really digging the Blessed By A Broken Heart.

Yeah it surprised the hell out of me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2012, 05:08:27 AM
Not that Jorn fits this thread, but I figure not many around here would really care;

Frontiers Records is pleased to announce the release of a brand new Jorn studio album: Bring Heavy Rock To The Land on June 1st in Europe and June 5 in North America.
Following a three year silence since the release of "Spirit Black", Jorn unleashes upon the world yet another original studio album "Bring Heavy Rock To The Land": another slab of classic Hard Rock with Metal elements! "I think this album follows a similar Jorn-tradition like those before, more Heavy Rock oriented than Metal" says Jorn "But as usual it's not one musical expression all the way through the album, but a variety of musical landscapes within the categories of Rock and Metal".
A winning formula should not change, so Jorn has again worked with Tommy Hansen at Jailhouse Studios in Denmark, who mixed the album, ensuring the right edge to the rich guitar and vocal sound that is now trademark to all Jorn releases. The lineup sees the return of Jimmy Iversen on guitar who also appeared on "Spirit Black". The pairing with Tore Moren works really well and gives Jorn's sound the usual depth and solidity.

As usual, in addition to the original material, Jorn offers some interesting covers. This time Masterplan's "Time to Be King" and Christopher Cross' "Ride Like The Wind" are the ones to get the Jorn treatment. "When we wrote "Time To Be King" I heard a different and more rock oriented arrangement in my mind" tells Jorn, "so after the Masterplan album was released I couldn't stop thinking about how it would sound if it was recorded with this other arrangement. I don't know which one's better, I have ended up liking both versions. As to Christopher Cross, I have always loved "West Coast" oriented music and bands like 10cc, Pages, Santana, Little River Band, Eagles and so on. So I thought "Ride Like The Wind" would be a good song to do Jorn style. Saxon also released a version of this song in the 80's, and the arrangement we made ended up being a mix between the original version and Saxon's. It's also a fun song to sing and play".
Jorn Lande's strong and diverse voice and solid songwriting skills have now become legendary in the Hard Rock world. In a career spanning over close to 40 album releases, as frontman for Ark and Masterplan, in addition to featuring on spectacular projects such as Nostradamus The Rock Opera, Beyond Twilight "The Devil's Hall of Fame", Tobias Sammet's "Avantasia" and Ayreon.
"If you buy a Jorn album today, you know what you will get" states Jorn Lande. You are guaranteed to get your adrenaline going with the riveting sound that has solid roots in classic hard rock/heavy metal music, such as Dio, Black Sabbath, Rainbow and Whitesnake.

Bring Heavy Rock To The Land will include the following songs: My Road; Bring Heavy Rock To The Land; A Thousand Cuts; Ride Like The Wind; Chains Around You; The World I See; Time To Be King; Ride To The Guns; Black Morning; I Came To Rock; Live And Let Fly (bonus track).

The title track Bring Heavy Rock To The Land will be released as a single worldwide on May 14 and can be exclusively listened to in streaming on the Frontiers Records webradio www.frontiers.it/webradio - A videoclip for the song is in the works and will be directed by Thomas Tjder (Pretty Maids, In Flames). According to Jorn: "The title track has really a strong Jorn trademark. It was a natural choice for a title track, I felt the same about "Lonely Are The Brave" back in 2008. Sometimes one song's got the magic and you just know it. "Bring Heavy Rock To The Land" is such a song and regardless of how the whole album is evaluated by critics, I feel that this song will live on and become an essential Jorn classic!"
Jorn will appear live in selected shows in Europe during the summer.
Jorn: Jorn Lande: vocals, Willy Bendiksen: drums, Nic Angileri: bass, Tore Moren: guitar, Jimmy Iversen: guitar.
WebLinks: www.jornlande.com.


(https://www.melodicrock.com/jorn-bringheavyrocktotheland.jpg) (https://www.melodicrock.com/jorn-2012.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 19, 2012, 08:05:01 AM
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Smile in my pants!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: obscure on April 19, 2012, 08:21:25 AM
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Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 19, 2012, 02:22:59 PM
he's done some good stuff but I'm far from a fan. I don't buy in to the son of Dio thing either. He's a good metal singer with average metal songs on his own. With Ark he was great, Masterplan was ok, and I enjoy hearing him cover other artists but solo he doesn't do it for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2012, 04:03:41 PM
Looking forward to this too.  Ride Like The Wind?  Oh yes!!!

Spirit Black was really impressive too.  I still miss Jorn Viggo's guitar though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 19, 2012, 09:28:38 PM
Love everything with Jorn's voice. Some of the solo stuff was just average, but by and large, I love pretty much everything.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2012, 09:33:19 PM
Yeah, I've followed his solo career for years.  I can see why some would think some of his solo work is average, but personally I like his style of hard rock, where most of his solo projects are either power metal or somewhat prog.

Saying that, Burn the Sun is by far the best think he's ever done, followed by Beyond Twilight and Masterplan.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 20, 2012, 02:16:47 AM
I only have the first Masterplan disc, all the Allen-Lande discs, and the Jorn/Dio tribute disc.  Love them all.  Haven't heard much else of his solo or Ark material.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 20, 2012, 01:55:42 PM
Just remembered his contributions to Avantasia- that was very good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2012, 03:45:22 PM
(https://www.mp3crank.com/cover-album/Blessed-By-A-Broken-Heart-Feel-The-Power-300x300.jpg)


This is absolutely kicking my ass, simply amazing album!!   :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 22, 2012, 03:50:18 PM
 >:( >:(   :censored :censored

This abstaining from new music sucks. Yet another to put on the radar (which is getting very crowded)

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
You're going to get a barrage of new musuc my friend once your roulette starts!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 23, 2012, 01:27:19 AM
And plenty of new stuff on the horizon- trixter, Tyketto, Crazy Lixx, Hardline. Hoping for good things there.

The BBABH is very good, isn't it. Glad I sought them out after Andrew's average review on Mr.com.

Still playing the shit out of the Dynazty though.  :hefdaddy :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2012, 04:22:30 AM
It makes me wonder how many times he actually spun the cd before giving his review.  It's a fantastic cd.  Heard a bit of the new Tyketto, Crazy Lixx and Trixter but none of these really interests me that much.  I might get the Tyketto cause I enjoy Danny Vaughn.

Hardline on the other hand I cannot wait for.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2012, 04:43:55 AM
https://www.melodicrock.com/

Looks like melodic rock is in trouble again.

To be honest, I have never brought one of those compilations, because basically I don't see the point.  I might donate $20 or something though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 23, 2012, 04:49:25 AM
Feel for the guy, but I don't go there enough to compel me to donate.  I might try some of the compilation CDs though.  Good way to check out some bands that I don't know a lot about.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2012, 04:58:04 AM
Feel for the guy, but I don't go there enough to compel me to donate.  I might try some of the compilation CDs though.  Good way to check out some bands that I don't know a lot about.

Good point.  If I'm willing to donate I might as well pick up a cd or two and get my moneys worth, I just hate compilations though of any kind.

The melodic rock records site also is absolute shit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 23, 2012, 09:15:08 AM
Yeah I go there enough that I usually donate, and I've bought some of the cds. It's a difficult time for everybody.

Gave the Crazy Lixx a listen today whilst driving and it seemed pretty good. The only thing I noticed missing was the Chris Laney production that lifted the last album into the great category. This one seemed a bit flat in that department. I do like the singer's voice though.
From what I've heard of the Tyketto it sounds good too. Danny Vaughn always sounds good.

Have you heard of Casablanca? Yet another rock band from Scandinavia. A bit sleazy but the most noticable comparison for me is 70s Thin Lizzy, though not with Phil singing. Ryan Roxie is in the band. Again, pretty good. It's turning into a good year already for Melodic Rock.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2012, 03:36:13 PM
Haven't heard of that band, yet another band for me to check out.

I think I will get the Tyketto, the samples sound alright.

Right now, Blessed For A Broken Heart is taking up all of my time.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 24, 2012, 02:52:25 AM
Haven't heard of that band, yet another band for me to check out.

I think I will get the Tyketto, the samples sound alright.

Right now, Blessed For A Broken Heart is taking up all of my time.

I know. too much new music, so little time to appreciate it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 25, 2012, 05:41:10 PM
(https://www.frontiers.it/m/uploads/photos/damage_control_cover.jpg)

This album is absolutely killer.  Anyone remotely interested in melodic rock/AOR or Jeff Scott Soto should pick this album up.  Takes a few listens to get your head around things since there is a lot of material but everything on this album is killer.  Deluxe version is the shit as the three bonus tracks are as good and better than some of the regular album tracks.  Great guitar solos through this also.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 26, 2012, 10:08:31 AM
Who is in JSS's band?

Wolf, I was listening to Yngwie's Marching Out last week and I forgot how awesome JSS is on it.
I don't know how "melodic" I want to get,but what would you recommend as the heaviest album that JSS has sung on?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 26, 2012, 11:59:58 AM
The first Yngwie and especially Marching Out rule!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 26, 2012, 02:08:49 PM
Who is in JSS's band?

Wolf, I was listening to Yngwie's Marching Out last week and I forgot how awesome JSS is on it.
I don't know how "melodic" I want to get,but what would you recommend as the heaviest album that JSS has sung on?

I would think an Axel Rudi Pell album would be his heaviest (Black Moon Pyramid would be my recommendation from the JSS years), though I think there is a Nu-Metal album by him out there, can't recall the name though as I'm not interested. I think he's stayed away from the Metal side in recent years.
The Humanimal (band) album is very good in his heavy vein though, I can recommend that, or even the Soul Sirkus album with Neil Schon.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2012, 03:28:17 PM
Yeah lowdz is probably right, something from ARP.  JSS has never really gotten that heavy,  Soul Sirkis was okay.  7 from Talisman had a few heavy moments too if I remember.

His band on the album is mostly more unknown people and guys in his touring band, but all perfromances are very impressive.  Dave Meniketti makes an appearance as does Mike from Y&T.  Casey Grillo makes an appearance too as does Joel Hoekstra from Night Ranger.  All performances are killer.

It's not overly heavy but the WET project is by far one of the best things he's ever done.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 26, 2012, 03:48:57 PM
Yeah lowdz is probably right, something from ARP.  JSS has never really gotten that heavy,  Soul Sirkis was okay.  7 from Talisman had a few heavy moments too if I remember.

His band on the album is mostly more unknown people and guys in his touring band, but all perfromances are very impressive.  Dave Meniketti makes an appearance as does Mike from Y&T.  Casey Grillo makes an appearance too as does Joel Hoekstra from Night Ranger.  All performances are killer.

It's not overly heavy but the WET project is by far one of the best things he's ever done.

Wolfie could be right. I like most of his Talisman albums tbh.

This could be his best album ever though... He out-Coverdale's Coverdale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zf_PyXIKes
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 26, 2012, 08:35:03 PM
Meanwhile, over at Melodicrock.com:

Quote
The Best Of MelodicRock Records - Volume 1 FREE DOWNLOAD!

Tracks:

01) Jimi Jamison & Jim Peterik - Dream Higher
02) Degreed - A Little Bit
03) Chris Antblad - When Fools Rush In
04) Fenrik Lane - Going Nowhere
05) Taxxi - It Ain't Over
06) All I Know - Asphyxia
07) Gary Schutt - Carry Me Away
08) Andreas Novak - Highway To Anywhere
09) Jim Peterik - She's Nothing To Me (JP & Thom Griffin Vocal)
10) Riverdogs - World Gone Mad
11) Fenrik Lane - Hot Lips
12) All I Know - Turn Back
13) Degreed - My Fall
14) Violet Sun - Inside Out
15) Chris Antblad - A Fire Burning
16) Infinity - Christine
17) Andreas Novak - Part Of Your Plan
18) 7th Heaven - Affair Of The Heart
19) Taxxi - Writing On The Wall
20) Infinity - I'm On The Edge

Download ZIP File (https://www.melodicrockrecords.com/audio/MRR%20-%20Best%20Of%20Volume%201.zip)

I ordered the three compilations he still has, and then noticed this was on the front page.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2012, 10:15:36 PM
Thanks Chad, downloading now, didn't see that the other day.

I still may order a compilation or 2.


Yeah lowdz is probably right, something from ARP.  JSS has never really gotten that heavy,  Soul Sirkis was okay.  7 from Talisman had a few heavy moments too if I remember.

His band on the album is mostly more unknown people and guys in his touring band, but all perfromances are very impressive.  Dave Meniketti makes an appearance as does Mike from Y&T.  Casey Grillo makes an appearance too as does Joel Hoekstra from Night Ranger.  All performances are killer.

It's not overly heavy but the WET project is by far one of the best things he's ever done.

Wolfie could be right. I like most of his Talisman albums tbh.

This could be his best album ever though... He out-Coverdale's Coverdale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zf_PyXIKes


Yeah. all Talisman is excellent, great band.  The Five Men Live DVD is absolutely amazing.  Still sad about Marcel.

That song is killer, I'll have to try and hunt that one down.  Very Coverdale indeed.  :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 06, 2012, 04:07:21 AM
Today's blast from the past is this little beauty.

(https://www.yesterrock-shop.com/WebRoot/Store17/Shops/61997914/49ED/CD46/DCB3/A329/F789/C0A8/28B9/0EA3/Hurricane_Slave.jpg)

The first full album was ok but this raised the bar after a change of personnel. Doug Aldritch is now David Coverdale's right hand man and the singer is in Foreigner, so a quality band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2012, 04:50:02 AM
Hmmm....Interesting cover lol.  Big fan of Doug's work in Dio and Whitesnake so this is one I might have to look into.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 07, 2012, 04:55:06 AM
Hell, I'll give it a listen just for the cover alone! And of course Doug Aldrich. I've loved his contributions to Whitesnake (and Transformers :mtmte: ), so he's earned a lot of cred with me. And also it's from 1990, which automatically means it has a pretty solid chance of being awesome. :lol

And since I saw it mentioned further up, I'll mention that the new Crazy Lixx album really disappointed me. New Religion was a great album and set itself apart from the other recent bands of the genre, but the new album feels like a step backwards and just blends in with the other generic GNR/ACDC knockoff bands. Very samey with the uptempo straightforward beats and riffs. I've only given it a couple of listens, but I really don't feel compelled at this stage to give it any further spins.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2012, 05:23:25 AM
Never really got into Crazy Lixx but listened to a couple of the new tracks.  Not impressive at all to me either I'm afraid.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 07, 2012, 10:10:29 AM
Finally got around to listening to Emotional Fire.  Very nice indeed.  Still a lot on the radar from you guys that I can't wait to get to ... and hopefully I will soon.   ;)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2012, 04:09:07 PM
Finally got around to listening to Emotional Fire.  Very nice indeed.  Still a lot on the radar from you guys that I can't wait to get to ... and hopefully I will soon.   ;)

Glad you liked it, I'm in fact still spinning that one regulary, terrific album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 08, 2012, 04:03:23 AM
Never really got into Crazy Lixx but listened to a couple of the new tracks.  Not impressive at all to me either I'm afraid.

New Religion was a great album and the new one has some good songs. It's just missing the massive Chris Laney production. The songs just aren't given a chance to shine.

Re the Hurricane cover, the original was edited and the young lady removed- just the empty chair. Bloody pmrc.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 13, 2012, 02:04:26 PM
Been in an AOR mood today and dug the first two Hugo cds and the Valentine ST out of the attic. Three very good albums and Hugo is an excellent Steve Perry clone. The 2nd album has a great cover of the Triumph classic Magic Power- made me check out Triumph and I'm glad I did. The band on the Hugo albums was British band Ten (who can be brilliant at times). Enjoyable stuff.

(https://www.spirit-of-metal.com/les%20goupes/H/Hugo/Hugo/Hugo.jpg)

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61WQFF9YDJL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

(https://rapidsharemp3.com/_Cache/mp3-download/d/9/40933/front_cover/5.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: yorost on May 13, 2012, 02:06:58 PM
Yeah, I said it in the other thread, too, but I don't think he sounds as much like Perry as so many fans think.  He does look an awful lot like him, though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2012, 04:31:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfAaT5Me1Ik

Pretty standard Jorn affair.  Not bad though.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 17, 2012, 04:38:48 AM
It's so frustrating that Jorn is such a great vocalist, yet none of his original stuff has even slightly caught my attention, and his production is always awful, and this sounds the same. That guitar tone is just horrible.

Ever heard The Snakes - Once Bitten? The only original album I love with him on it. It is a blatant Whitesnake clone featuring ex members of Whitesnake, and Jorn sounds so much like Coverdale, you could probably convince Coverdale he actually sang on it. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 17, 2012, 05:13:23 AM
song was meh.  But, I'll still grab the album.  Not put off by the production... initial shit like this is usually crap.  Headlong Flight (on rolling stone's site) and Storytime both sounded awful on their first internetz release.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 17, 2012, 12:21:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfAaT5Me1Ik

Pretty standard Jorn affair.  Not bad though.

Wasn't expecting to but I really like that. Not the biggest Jorn fan but yeah, not bad. Don't mind the guitar sound either. Sounds better when you can't see him.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2012, 03:56:56 PM
It's so frustrating that Jorn is such a great vocalist, yet none of his original stuff has even slightly caught my attention, and his production is always awful, and this sounds the same. That guitar tone is just horrible.

Ever heard The Snakes - Once Bitten? The only original album I love with him on it. It is a blatant Whitesnake clone featuring ex members of Whitesnake, and Jorn sounds so much like Coverdale, you could probably convince Coverdale he actually sang on it. :lol

That's really the only Jorn material I haven't heard, I have to track it down.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfAaT5Me1Ik

Pretty standard Jorn affair.  Not bad though.

Wasn't expecting to but I really like that. Not the biggest Jorn fan but yeah, not bad. Don't mind the guitar sound either. Sounds better when you can't see him.

 :rollin
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 18, 2012, 04:19:11 AM
Hardline - Fever Dreams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmNpEOxoNVw

Amazing, my copy has already shipped and I should have it next week.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 18, 2012, 05:09:58 AM
Yeah it's good. A little generic sounding but quality none the less. And Johnny shines as always. A very underrated singer.

Today I've been listening to XYZ's debut. Got it on vinyl on release but never really rated it- thought it was a poor man's dokken- but I really enjoyed listening to it. It's still a poor man's Dokken but certainly a decent album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 18, 2012, 04:44:08 PM
"take what you can" is a great tune from xyz debut
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 20, 2012, 10:13:50 AM
Today's recommendation is this beauty with Terry Brock (Strangeways, Giant, Voices Of Rock, Slamer) on vocals.

(https://d.yimg.com/ec/image/v1/release/192582466;encoding=jpg;size=300;fallback=defaultImage)

I love this album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2012, 03:38:22 PM
Don't know this album but Terry Brock is an amazing vocalist.  His solo album was great and I loved his work with the new Giant.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 21, 2012, 05:05:47 PM
wolf, what would your top 10 or 20 AOR albums of all time be?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 21, 2012, 11:00:25 PM
Don't know this album but Terry Brock is an amazing vocalist.  His solo album was great and I loved his work with the new Giant.

Which solo album? Doesn't he have a couple? I have Diamond Blue, which has a couple of amazing tracks on it, although the rest didn't much grab me. I like his vocals though. :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2012, 04:24:32 AM
Don't know this album but Terry Brock is an amazing vocalist.  His solo album was great and I loved his work with the new Giant.

Which solo album? Doesn't he have a couple? I have Diamond Blue, which has a couple of amazing tracks on it, although the rest didn't much grab me. I like his vocals though. :tup

Yeah, Diamond Blue, really enjoyed that one, I think he has one solo album before it, but I don't have that one.  I do agree the second half isn't as good as the first.


wolf, what would your top 10 or 20 AOR albums of all time be?

Shit man, I have no idea, there are so many good ones, I'd have to really take some time to properly rank them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 28, 2012, 09:27:55 AM
Here we go. The weather is glorius in the UK and that means a melodic rock soundtrack is needed. Today's recommendation is this album from Keel's guitar player Marc Ferrari. It's Keel-like with a far better singer, Rory Cathey, a guy he found after original singer Oni Logan quit to join Lynch Mob, and he's in that caliber. There is a great cover of I Just Wanna Make Love To You here, but some excellent late 80s LA hard rock.

(https://img12.nnm.ru/7/4/1/b/e/aee2d7ba497bc22f21a777c9735.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_VYpzHiJCg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wRTqxFlQF4&feature=relmfu
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 28, 2012, 09:32:28 AM
 Don't remember them at all. Will check the link after work.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 28, 2012, 03:41:34 PM
lowdz, your knowledge on old school AOR bands is incredible.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 28, 2012, 04:29:48 PM
lowdz, your knowledge on old school AOR bands is incredible.

I'll agree, but take exception to the fact 1990 = "old school"

:rollin

Kids these days (yes, at 28, I'm still allowed to call you a kid!)

Nice tracks... never knew these guys.  :tup Paul.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2012, 04:43:57 AM
lowdz, your knowledge on old school AOR bands is incredible.

I'll agree, but take exception to the fact 1990 = "old school"

:rollin

Kids these days (yes, at 28, I'm still allowed to call you a kid!)

Nice tracks... never knew these guys.  :tup Paul.

Yeah, I know it's not really old school  :lol  But I'd call me a kid too, I was born in 84 so anything late 80's early ninties I'd call old school.

Man I wish I was born about 10 years earlier, the 80's were just incredible.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 29, 2012, 08:42:38 AM
I think most check out the rate my haul thread, but in case not, this just arrived today

Melodicrock.com Volume 4 - double disc with artists like Danger Danger, Eric Martin, Terry Brock, Mike Tramp, Eden's Curse, JLT, Toto, Allen/Lande (woah!  Reach a Little Longer - acoustic Japanese bonus!  woot!), House of Lords and bunch more.  34 tracks in total

Melodicrock.com Volume 7 - W.E.T, Andreas Novak and a bunch I don't recognize.  18 tracks in total

Melodicrock.com Volume 8 - another double disc, Violet Sun, Mecca, Spectra, Chris Antblad, Trillion, Line of Fire... 33 tracks total.

all in all, $34 for 85 songs.  Got me some listening to do.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 29, 2012, 08:50:16 AM
lowdz, your knowledge on old school AOR bands is incredible.

Ha, thanks. Just a matter of being around at the time with a record buying addiction.

Having to dig deep in the vaults to find more obscure stuff for you now though! This uncharacteristic good weather in the UK is making me dig out the Melrock/AOR though. Not much metal playing chez Lowdz at the moment.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 29, 2012, 09:17:14 AM
lowdz, your knowledge on old school AOR bands is incredible.

Ha, thanks. Just a matter of being around at the time with a record buying addiction.

Having to dig deep in the vaults to find more obscure stuff for you now though! This uncharacteristic good weather in the UK is making me dig out the Melrock/AOR though. Not much metal playing chez Lowdz at the moment.

Fast forward 12 years, and you'll be in his shoes Kade.  People will say the same about you.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 29, 2012, 02:40:06 PM
lowdz, your knowledge on old school AOR bands is incredible.

Ha, thanks. Just a matter of being around at the time with a record buying addiction.

Having to dig deep in the vaults to find more obscure stuff for you now though! This uncharacteristic good weather in the UK is making me dig out the Melrock/AOR though. Not much metal playing chez Lowdz at the moment.

Yeah, almost put that myself but it read back a bit patronising.
We're all music lovers here though and I've found new (and old) music after recommendations from others here.
Fast forward 12 years, and you'll be in his shoes Kade.  People will say the same about you.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2012, 03:35:00 PM
I guess you are right, I guess I am the lowdz of the new generation of melodic rock.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 30, 2012, 02:47:54 AM
I guess you are right, I guess I am the lowdz of the new generation of melodic rock.  :lol

God help you!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Scorpion on May 30, 2012, 08:15:21 AM
Okay, I have to ask the people posting here: do any of you know Praying Mantis? Great melodic rock band, but I have never, in my whole life met someone who knew them without me introducing them first.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 30, 2012, 09:24:46 AM
I've heard of them I think.  Can't recall off the top of my head anything by them.

*goes and googles*

Nope, don't recognize them.  Holy crap though... they've had more members than Whitesnake!?!?!

Where do you suggest one starts?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 30, 2012, 09:44:01 AM
Nope, don't recognize them.  Holy crap though... they've had more members than Whitesnake!?!?!

I was not aware this was humanly possible. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Scorpion on May 30, 2012, 09:49:39 AM
I've heard of them I think.  Can't recall off the top of my head anything by them.

*goes and googles*

Nope, don't recognize them.  Holy crap though... they've had more members than Whitesnake!?!?!

Where do you suggest one starts?

Difficult, all of their stuff is quite good (except for The Journey Goes On and To the Power of Ten, but maybe that's just me). A Cry for a New World, Forever in Time and Nowhere to Hide use keyboards far more than the other albums, whereas Time Tells No Lies, Predator in Disguise and Sanctuary focus more on the guitars. Personally, my first album was Forever in Time, and I love that, though I'd pick either Time Tells No Lies or Predator in Disguise as my favorite.

If you're looking for a song, try the following:
- Lovers to the Grave from Time Tells No Lies
- Playing God from Sanctuary
- Naked from Nowhere to Hide
- Can't See the Angels from Predator in Disguise
- Listen To What Your Heart Says from Predator in Disguise

Yeah, those are the tracks that I'd recommend.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and they've had a fucking lot of different members - I think that their line-up changed for every album. I just checked, and there were even some better known guys in the band, such as Paul Di'Anno, Clive Burr and Dennis Stratton, albeit none for very long.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 30, 2012, 11:44:56 AM
Okay, I have to ask the people posting here: do any of you know Praying Mantis? Great melodic rock band, but I have never, in my whole life met someone who knew them without me introducing them first.

Certainly aware of them from the NWOBHM, and they had a track on the Metal For Muthas compilation- got that on vinyl. Was someone in the band in Maiden at one time?
Not a big fan at all, but I know they exist!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 30, 2012, 01:56:11 PM
I've seen them on various NWOBHM compilations; sound pretty good but never went out of my way to check them out any further
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Scorpion on May 30, 2012, 02:25:05 PM
I've seen them on various NWOBHM compilations; sound pretty good but never went out of my way to check them out any further

Do it. They're great.  :tup :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2012, 04:54:30 PM
Okay, I have to ask the people posting here: do any of you know Praying Mantis? Great melodic rock band, but I have never, in my whole life met someone who knew them without me introducing them first.

I;ve always been meaning to check them out.  Doesn't that band have Dennis Stratton?  I think Tony O'Hora was in the line up for a bit too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Scorpion on May 31, 2012, 03:57:56 AM
Yeah, thay had Dennis Stratton and Tony O'Hora once. Both aren't in the band anymore, though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2012, 04:08:12 AM
Yeah, thay had Dennis Stratton and Tony O'Hora once. Both aren't in the band anymore, though.

Righto then.  What would be the best album to start out with?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Scorpion on May 31, 2012, 04:18:41 AM
Time Tells No Lies, probably. That's their first one, and one of their best too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2012, 04:36:28 AM
I might look into that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2012, 04:45:30 AM
FORMER HAREM SCAREM SINGER BACK WITH A BRAND NEW SOLO ALBUM:
Frontiers Records is pleased to announce the release Hess new solo album entitled Living in Yesterday on August 24 in Europe and August 28 in the US.
Best known for spending 17 years as frontman of Harem Scarem, one of the most well known and respected Melodic Hard Rock bands to come out from Canada, Harry Hess has been redesigning his career as music producer and songwriter.
After the band's decision to stop recording more albums, the next natural step for Harry was to start working on a solo album which he has been expertly crafting little by little in his Toronto studio. Still the songs included in Living in Yesterday are the result of Hess' travels around the globe over the last few years with stops in Stockholm, Amsterdam, Brussels, Nashville and Germany.
With this CD Harry intends to go back to certain sounds and atmospheres leaning more towards melodic rock music. This record is more a continuation of where I left off with Harem Scarem says Harry. I am a rock singer and it's really hard for me to open up my mouth and sound right doing any other style of music so I really embrace that now and build the production around my vocal style.

The musicians featured on the album include his former bandmates Pete Lesperance, Creighton Doane and Darren Smith (his former bandmates in Harem Scarem), Tommy Denander, Marcie Free (Unruly Child), Howie Simon (Jeff Scott Soto) and Magnus Karlsson (Primal Fear) among others. This whole record was built on the co-writes and on the collaborations I have been doing all around the world the past 3 years continues Harry. There were some great writers involved and it was fun to try new things but still make it work with what I do.

Living In Yesterday includes the following songs: Living In Yesterday; Reach For You; It's Over; Don't Leave Me; What If; Nothing Lasts Forever; Falling Down; I Live For You; I Don't Wanna Want You; Where To Run.
The new album is a superb slice of Melodic Rock which features a monster vocal performance from Harry, fabulous songwriting and a crisp production. I've never a big fan of my own work but there are few songs on this record that I feel are some of my best to date, concludes Harry.
It is possible to stream in full the first song from the album Living In Yesterday on the Frontiers Records webradio www.frontiers.it/webradio and on Harry Hess page on Facebook www.facebook.com/harry.hess3.

Hess: Harry Hess: Lead Vocals, keyboards, Backing Vocals, additional Guitars / Additional Musicians: Peter Lesperance: Guitars & Bass; Creighton Doane: Drums; Howie Simon: Guitars solos on What If & It's Over; Magnus Karlsson: Guitar solo on Living In Yesterday; Chris Green: Guitar solo on Where To Run; Tommy Denander: Guitar & Keyboards on I Don't Wanna Want You; Strings on What If & It's Over arranged by Pete Whitfield, performed by Pete Whitfield, Sarah Brandwood-Spencer, Paulette Bayley (violins) Simon Turner, Nick Trygstad (cellos); Marcie Free: Backing vocals on songs 1,2 & 3; Darren Smith: Backing vocals on songs 4 10.

(https://www.melodicrock.com/hess-livinginyesterday.jpg)  (https://www.melodicrock.com/harryhess-2012.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 14, 2012, 05:13:46 AM
Thank you good sir. Will need to check out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 14, 2012, 12:29:08 PM
I'm a huge fan of HS and love Hess' voice.There's some talent involved and I'm looking forward to this. First Signal was good too, worth checking out.

Pete Lesperance's Down In It album from a few years ago is excellent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: crazyaga on June 14, 2012, 12:30:02 PM
Devin Townsend's album Accelerated Evolution is kind off melodic hard rock
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 14, 2012, 01:38:04 PM
I'm a huge fan of HS and love Hess' voice.There's some talent involved and I'm looking forward to this. First Signal was good too, worth checking out.

Pete Lesperance's Down In It album from a few years ago is excellent.

Just watched the First Signal  video.  Yummy!  And the chicks were pretty hawt too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Scorpion on June 14, 2012, 02:01:41 PM
hot chicks? I have to take a look.





No seriously, I was planning on doing it anyway.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2012, 03:41:30 PM
Pretty funny video that one, as is most of Frontiers low budget vids.  Seriously though, First Signal was a cracking album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 14, 2012, 04:55:58 PM
Just spotify'd it this afternoon.  Very sweet!  Now gotta find that Lesperance album
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 16, 2012, 03:38:05 PM
Just spotify'd it this afternoon.  Very sweet!  Now gotta find that Lesperance album

He rerecorded them as a different project  (Fair Ground) in the last couple of years but they didn't sound as good as his original versions.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 18, 2012, 04:05:39 AM
FUCK YES!!!!!!

https://legacy.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=175553

PRIMAL FEAR Guitarist Signs Solo Deal With FRONTIERS RECORDS - June 17, 2012
Swedish heavy metal guitarist, multi-instrumentalist and producer Magnus Karlsson has inked a solo deal with Frontiers Records.


 :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :metal :metal

No wonder he left the PF tour.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: obscure on June 18, 2012, 06:45:42 AM
 :omg:  Magnus Karlsson rocks.. big time  :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 18, 2012, 11:58:54 AM
Thought he'd been quiet. Saving his best songs for this then  ;D

You would think he was already signed to Frontiers with the amount of albums he does for them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 18, 2012, 04:06:55 PM
Thought he'd been quiet. Saving his best songs for this then  ;D

You would think he was already signed to Frontiers with the amount of albums he does for them.

It will be interesting to see how this evolves as a solo album.  Multiple guest singers, some instrumentals.  I really don't see it being anything different, but I'm fine with that.

It's interesting if he didn't join PF on the tour because of this commitment.  Hopefully some more info on the situation arises soon.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 19, 2012, 05:47:53 AM
Okay, I have to ask the people posting here: do any of you know Praying Mantis? Great melodic rock band, but I have never, in my whole life met someone who knew them without me introducing them first.

I had this on cassette:
(https://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSN238lUGOCqNjPGBKKcFTcRv6RdPGK7Rfb6TBvXoMeogHySprj)

I also have this on vinyl:
(https://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSNm23fWB48AtaqFt_y2afjZVdhOkGH-4vG5TWrogkiXDZ5SKMVIg)
back album pic
(https://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQxOvwdBOP8dToENGSKGwSjPnbGL3545nL0D3TyPFDUHiT5-F6K0w)

Chris and Tino Troy along with CLIVE BURR and Bernie Shaw (who is now Uriah Heep's vocalist).
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Scorpion on June 19, 2012, 05:55:04 AM
Sweet. I actually don't have that live album, is it any good?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 19, 2012, 05:58:58 AM
Honestly, I couldn't tell you. I'm not sure if I still actually have it. I prbably only listened to it like twice. I had just gotten it for the Maiden connection. And that was at least 20+ years ago.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Scorpion on June 19, 2012, 06:00:28 AM
Oh, ok. Let me know if you find it, I can't really find any reviews to that album and I'm always a bit unsure concerning live albums.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2012, 03:54:54 AM
New Magnum;

MAGNUM READY TO DELIVER NEW MASTERPIECE:
Hugely influential British melodic hard rock group Magnum have confirmed the release of their upcoming eighteenth studio album, On The 13th Day on Steamhammer / SPV on September 19th in Scandinavia, September 21st in Germany, September 24th in Europe and September 25th in the US/Canada.
So Let It Rain, taken from the album, will be released as a single at the end of August.
On The 13th Day will be available as a limited digipak edition with a bonus CD featuring unreleased, acoustic and live tracks from the Magnum vaults, plus as a double coloured vinyl LP, standard jewel case CD and download. The cover is once again created by famous fantasy artist Rodney Matthews (Asia, Nazareth, Eloy).

Tracklisting: Limited Digipak Disc 1 1. All The Dreamers 7.09 2. Blood Red Laughter 4.40 3. Didn't Like You Anyway 4.33 4. On The 13th Day 5.35 5. So Let It Rain 4.50 6. Dance Of The Black Tattoo 5.16 7. Shadow Town 5.57 8. Putting Things In Place 4.41 9. Broken Promises 4.55 10. See How They Fall 4.56 11. From Within 4.42.
Bonus Disc 2: 1. Those Were The Days 4.12 (Demo From 1988-89) 2. Eyes Like Fire 5.23 (Full Version) 3. Blood Red Laughter 4.12 (Acoustic Version) 4. We All Need To Be Loved 4.12 (Live From Prague CZ) 5. Shadow Town 4.59 (Acoustic Version) 6. Moonking 6.29 (Live From Mannheim D).

Jewel Case - 11 tracks from CD1 of the Digipack.
Vinyl Version - LP 1 Side A 1. All The Dreamers 7.09 2. Blood Red Laughter 4.40 3. Didn't Like You Anyway 4.33 Side B 1. On The 13th Day 5.35 2. So Let It Rain 4.50 3. Dance Of The Black Tattoo 5.16
LP 2 Side A 1. Shadow Town 5.57 2. Putting Things In Place 4.41 3. Broken Promises 4.55 Side B 1.. See How They Fall 4.56 2.. From Within 4.42.

On The 13th Day follows the success of 'The Visitation', which charted at #19 in Germany, #46 in Sweden, #55 in the UK national album charts, #56 in Switzerland, and at #3 in the UK rock charts at the end of January 2011.
On The 13th Day also picks up where 'The Visitation' left off, boasting 11 soaring, brand new totally epic rock songs packed with hook filled choruses, glorious flowing melodies, luscious keyboards and flowing guitar licks. Right from the opening track 'All The Dreamers', (set to be the new 'Sacred Hour') you get an instant feeling that this album has something very special to offer. 'So Let It Rain', the first single to be taken from 'On The 13th Day', will without a doubt soon be officially classified as 'classic', while 'Dance Of The Black Tattoo', which, from the moment the first drum beats crash out of the speakers, mesmerizes from start to finish. 'On The 13th Day', which draws on the very best elements of Magnum's illustrious back catalogue and high end production, is a strong contender for the title of 'Magnum's best album to date.'
One month after the release of 'On The 13th Day' Magnum set off on a 31 date European tour from October-December 2012.

Line Up: Tony Clarkin - guitars, Bob Catley - vocals, Mark Stanway - keyboards, Al Barrow - bass, Harry James - drums.
WebLinks (and tour dates): www.magnumonline.co.uk / www.spv.de.

(https://www.melodicrock.com/magnum-onthe13thday-full.jpg)


and new Pete Lesperance;

PETE LESPERANCE LOOKS TOWARDS THE STARS:
Harem Scarem guitarist Pete Lesperance has announced his new solo album Fade Into Stars will be released July 31. Hard copy CDs will be available direct from Pete's website and iTunes and other such retailers will offer the Digital release of the album.
The 10 track moody singer/songwriter styled album has the track listing of: Say Hello, Save Me, Too High, Be The One, Hollywood, Satellites, 6 Ways, Love Someone, One Last Time, The Ride.
Samples can be heard now via: fadeintostarssamples.viinyl.com.

(https://www.melodicrock.com/petelesperance-fadeintostars.jpg)

Also, a new AOR Work of Art copy band I just discovered.  Pretty good, but blatant Work of Art rip off;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smVQ9vgQyF8
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2012, 04:15:18 AM
I've never tried any Magnum.  Suggestion where to start?

Also, I came across the band Shadow's Mignon.  It's a Henning Pauly project (Frameshift, Chain, solo).  He described this in an email as "an hommage to classic 80s metal". 

(https://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/4/e93011255ed86526bf729ff3c87f3dc3/l.png)

The album is on Spotify, and there's a Myspace (https://www.myspace.com/shadowsmignon) page with a few tracks.  I give it  :tup :tup

Pauly also did the second Roswell Six/Terra Incognita album (lyrics written by novelist Kevin Anderson... the first album's music was written by Erik Norlander).  The Pauly written album (A Line in the Sand) features vocalists  Steve Walsh (Kansas), Michael Sadler (ex-Saga), Sass Jordan, Alex Froese and Nick Storr, with guest appearances by Charlie Dominici, Juan Roos and Arjen A. Lucassen.  There's a MySpace (https://www.myspace.com/roswellsix) page for that album too.

(https://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/131/40c55e760e7f4e14bcec8b4527ec7510/l.jpg)

That, along with the first Roswell Six album (Beyond the Horizon... featuring JLB, and it is on Spotify) also gets  :tup :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2012, 05:01:32 AM
That Shadow's Mignon sounds interesting, will give some tracks a spin later.

As with Magnum, On A Storytellers Night is absolutely essential.  Wings of Heaven is classic also.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 04, 2012, 04:21:52 PM
Yeah, what Wolfie said. I love the run of Chase The Dragon- especially the remaster with Back To Earth on it- Magnum's best song, (miss Eleventh hour) Storyteller's Night, Vigilante, Wings Of Heaven. After that nothing has really impressed me that much. With Goodnight LA they seemed to go chasing the American $ and missed.

Some of Bob Catley's solo albums have been better than Magnum's later output for me. Great voice and a nice guy. Magnum have always been awesome live.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2012, 04:34:35 PM
Brand New Morning was alright, and Moonking was a pretty good one also, Alice was decent too.  Visitation didn't really do much for me, so I'm hoping for something more on this new one.

As far as Catley solo album, they are all terrific.  My favs are The Tower, When Empires Burn, Spirit of Man and Immortal, all terrific stuff, much better than what Magnum have been doing lately.

I still need to check out the Hard Rain album.

Oh and yes Lowdz, Back to Earth is top 5 Magnum for me too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 04, 2012, 05:40:01 PM
Beleive it or not, I've never tried Magnum either.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 04, 2012, 05:42:58 PM
Everyone AOR fan needs to check out On A Storyteller's Night, it's absolutely brilliant.  TAC and Jingle, add this to your lists.  Then add Wings of Heave, Chase the Dragon and Vigilante to those lists.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 25, 2012, 05:38:31 AM
New Eclipse;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPUzo1fkM38&feature=g-all-u

Easily one of the best songs of the year so far.  August 28 this comes out, can't wait.  :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 25, 2012, 05:52:56 AM
I'm gonna punch you in the throat if you don't stop this!!!!

Oh, and .... the fuck!  Pride of Lions teaser on the sidebar.  Have they got something coming out this year?

Thank god for Spotify and Grooveshark and the like.  Otherwise, I'd have a 2000+ CD collection with a lot of it gathering dust too!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 25, 2012, 05:59:18 AM
I'm gonna punch you in the throat if you don't stop this!!!!

Oh, and .... the fuck!  Pride of Lions teaser on the sidebar.  Have they got something coming out this year?

Thank god for Spotify and Grooveshark and the like.  Otherwise, I'd have a 2000+ CD collection with a lot of it gathering dust too!

Yes, Pride of Lions have a new album coming out sometime later this year, no details as yet.

I am so excited about this new Eclipse album, it's gonna be awesome.

Oh don't forget Harry Hess released the same day as Eclipse.  :tup

You may like this too;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smVQ9vgQyF8

The album is okay, pretty standard AOR.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 25, 2012, 06:01:55 AM
Thank god for Spotify and Grooveshark and the like.  Otherwise, I'd have a 2000+ CD collection with a lot of it gathering dust too!

Yeah, this week I have made the decision from now on I am only buying new release cd's.  :lol Not that makes much of a difference with the amount of stuff still to come that I want;

Eclipse
Harry Hess
Pride of Lions
Threshold
Testament
Beardfish
Steve Vai
Grave Digger
Tremonti
Black Majesty
Lord
Katatonia

God damn.

Oh, and I think there was suppose to be a new WET album this year, but I haven't read anything about it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 25, 2012, 06:05:22 AM
Yeah, I just saw the teaser clip from that at Frontier.  Is that your home page?   :lol

Thankfully, not all of those bands above wet my appetite.  The first four, and that's about it.  Still getting thru the Lord back catalog.  Same with WET (even though it's only one album!).
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2012, 09:41:43 PM
Must of missed this somehow;

PRIDE OF LIONS WILL BE IMMORTAL:
Frontiers Records is excited to announce the return of Pride Of Lions with the release of their anticipated fourth studio album entitled Immortal on September 21 in Europe and September 24 in North America.
The 11 tracks new album is everything Melodic Rock fans expect from these guys: powerful vocals from Toby Hitchcock and Jim Peterik, amazing music from the Pride Of Lions band and guest musicians, and of course epic songs from the pen of Grammy-winning songwriter and founding member of Survivor, Jim Peterik.

"After producing and writing the songs for Jimi Jamison's wonderful 2009 release, "Crossroads Moment", I needed a minute or two to get my juices back flowing in the direction of writing a great new Pride Of Lions record. When Toby decided to do his solo album, this was the perfect time for reflection. Once I started writing, the flood gates just opened up. I feel this is the cd to put POL on the map once and for all" says Peterik.
Indeed all the pieces are there that made Pride Of Lions the group to watch back in 2003 with their self-titled debut record on Frontiers. Timeless songs such as "It's Criminal", "Sound Of Home" and "Gone" are still on the i-pods and cd players of thousands of rock fans worldwide, but Toby Hitchcock's voice this time has gained a new maturity and depth while sacrificing none of his incredible 4 octave range.
"When I was approached by Serafino Perugino (Frontiers Records President and guiding light) to do the next POL record I knew he wouldn't settle for less than my very best as a songwriter and producer. I couldn't let him or the fans down - so I really got down to business," continues Jim.

The results speak for themselves. Joined again by Jim's long time musical partner Larry Millas the album is a sonic powerhouse. Back up vocals are supplied by Thom Griffin ex of Trillion and a new rock tenor on the scene Marc Scherer. The title track is sheer POL magic "Immortal" with its key line: "For the thousand times we fail, it's the one thing we did right, that leaves a mark forever on this world- and makes us Immortal."
"Delusional", another key cut (chosen to become the first single and music video) tackles the subject of the way we as a people overprescribe medication to young people that may be a bit different from the norm, to make them conform with the status quo- thus choking off their brilliant uniqueness.
Of course the power ballads are there as always: "Everything Money Can't Buy", the melancholy gem, "Are You The Same Girl" and "Sending My Love".

"For me," states Toby Hitchcock, "the pivotal song on this cd is "Sending My Love". I'm a sucker for a great ballad and this one spoke to my soul. Being a new father, it gets more and more heartbreaking to be away from my loved ones on the road. I love the road, don't get me wrong, but its tough being separated from them as well."
The rockers, of course, rock as hard as ever. The album's closer, "Ask Me Yesterday" explores the natural wisdom we seem to lose over time. "If It Doesn't Kill me" explores the Nietzschian quote: "What doesn't kill me- makes me stronger!"

"Another strong rocker, in my opinion, is "Vital Signs," says Peterik. "It's a song I started back in 1984 while making Vital Signs with Survivor. I often like to have a song be the title cut- ie When Seconds Count, Eye Of The Tiger, Too Hot To Sleep, Caught In The Game etc. But this time I couldn't quite finish this tune- until finally this year."
"Immortal" is a vital album (pun intended) for POL. "We hope to finally break big in our own country- the USA. It's great having the world wide profile that we do - when Toby and I walk the streets of Barcelona the people point and shout- Pride Of Lions! I'd like that to happen in Cincinnati!" concludes Jim Peterik.

Some big shows are currently being set up for Pride Of Lions including a show with Styx in the Chicago area around the time of this release.
So enjoy another epic album from a band that is more than a flash in the pan project. Pride of Lions is the real thing - and they are here to stay!

Immortal tracklisting includes: Immortal; Delusional; Tie Down The Wind; Shine On; Everything That Money Can't Buy; Coin Of The Realm; Sending My Love; Vital Signs; If It Doesn't Kill Me; Are You The Same Girl; Ask Me Yesterday.
The first single "Delusional" will be available for digital purchase only on September 5. A videoclip will be made available soon � an album trailer is available now: www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CcRwjOmIOA&.
WebLinks: aprideoflions.com / www.frontiers.it.

(https://www.melodicrock.com/prideoflions-immortal.jpg)(https://www.melodicrock.com/prideoflions-2012.jpg)

 :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on August 17, 2012, 10:09:40 PM
sounds cool
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2012, 10:10:13 PM
Great band if you are into that sort of music.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 18, 2012, 07:39:10 AM
I am excite!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Pelata on August 18, 2012, 07:43:42 AM
I guess now is as good a time as any...

I had a Melodic Rock band called Line Of Fire..we released 2 albums on Tribunal Records...

https://www.reverbnation.com/lof

We were usually compared to bands like Journey, Firehouse, Boston & Def Leppard...but I'll let ya'll decide that.  :biggrin:

Also, if I'm overstepping my bounds my posting this here, feel free to kick my ass.  :blush
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 18, 2012, 09:40:32 AM
Not at all over-stepping.  Listening now.  Like the first 30 seconds so far.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 18, 2012, 09:55:26 AM
I guess now is as good a time as any...

I had a Melodic Rock band called Line Of Fire..we released 2 albums on Tribunal Records...

https://www.reverbnation.com/lof

We were usually compared to bands like Journey, Firehouse, Boston & Def Leppard...but I'll let ya'll decide that.  :biggrin:

Also, if I'm overstepping my bounds my posting this here, feel free to kick my ass.  :blush

Was going to mention Momentum here at some stage. Really good album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 18, 2012, 10:48:25 AM
I guess now is as good a time as any...

I had a Melodic Rock band called Line Of Fire..we released 2 albums on Tribunal Records...

https://www.reverbnation.com/lof

We were usually compared to bands like Journey, Firehouse, Boston & Def Leppard...but I'll let ya'll decide that.  :biggrin:

Also, if I'm overstepping my bounds my posting this here, feel free to kick my ass.  :blush

Was going to mention Momentum here at some stage. Really good album.

Hey, I have Momentum! I never really got into it because of the rough production unfortunately, but I liked the songwriting and performance.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Pelata on August 18, 2012, 02:17:07 PM
Cool! Thanks guys!  :tup

I usually just assume that nobody's ever heard of us, so it's cool to find out I'm wrong.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Pelata on August 18, 2012, 02:44:00 PM
If anyone's interested, we recorded a Queensryche cover for the label...they did a comp of their bands doing covers...we did "I Will Remember"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6CrFeDe8_0

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2012, 05:24:52 AM
I guess now is as good a time as any...

I had a Melodic Rock band called Line Of Fire..we released 2 albums on Tribunal Records...

https://www.reverbnation.com/lof

We were usually compared to bands like Journey, Firehouse, Boston & Def Leppard...but I'll let ya'll decide that.  :biggrin:

Also, if I'm overstepping my bounds my posting this here, feel free to kick my ass.  :blush

Never over stepping mate, we love all new music suggestions around here, right Chad?  ;)

Having a quick listen now but will listen a bit more tomorrow.  Good vocals and a nice classic sound overall, sounding great so far.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 19, 2012, 05:35:45 AM
Had a listen to both albums on Spotify.  Liked the s/t  better than Momentum.  Both pretty nice though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Pelata on August 19, 2012, 03:55:33 PM
I appreciate it guys...thank you!  :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 22, 2012, 09:01:48 PM
Big melodicrock update!

https://www.melodicrock.com/

COMING UP - MORE GREAT MELODIC MUSIC:
2012 has been another solid year for music, but by far it seems the last few months of the year are set to be the hottest of all. There are some truly amazing released lined up for melodic rock fans and I'm excited to be able to start talking about some of them. I've spent the last week with some really outstanding melodic rock music - the quality of which makes me very happy for this scene. I think there's going to be a lot of empty wallets out there.

Let's start with the great Jimi Jamison. Jimi's new album is Never Too Late and is written, produced, performed (with band) and mixed by the man of the moment Erik Martensson (Eclipse, WET, Toby Hitchcock). And what a result! High expectations as I have for everything Erik related, but this is another ridiculously great sounding album. I love Crossroads Moment, but this is a little different again is one of the best albums I have heard with Jimi's name on it since the 80s.
This is a little different for both Jimi and Erik. For Jimi it really sounds like an album written for him. It's a naturally 80s style melodic rock record, but with a great up to date production and the feel of a record that you've heard before...while being totally new and fresh. Jimi's vocals are simply amazing and it is a 100% straight ahead melodic record with a huge Survivor influence.
And Erik - he has written specifically for Jimi and the album is pure melodic rock - not as intense as the Toby Hitchcock album and more 80s than the WET record.
And the album is stacked with anthems - keep an ear out for the opening track Everybody's Got A Broken Heart plus other instant classics like Never Too Late, The Air I Breathe, Not Tonight and Heaven Call Your Name. This is one really special record.
The album is released in Europe November 2 and USA November 6 via Frontiers.

Are you ready for a preview of another wonderful melodic rock album? Pride Of Lions (Jim Peterik & Toby Hitchcock) have gone back to the solid melodic base of their acclaimed debut album for another amazing collection of songs featuring the Song Of The Year nominees-to-be Immortal, Tie Down The Wind, Shine On, If It Doesn't Kill Me and Vital Signs.
And there's one more song - the lead single Delusional, which was my instant pick as an album highlight. Pride Of Lions Immortal is released in Europe September 21 and USA on the 25th.
You can download a special extended sample of the song right now - Pride Of Lions - Delusional.
If you want to hear the whole song, it's streaming in full from the Paradise Artists page for POL - paradiseartists.com/artists/pride_of_lions/index.html.




I know I don't have to preface any talk of a new Rick Springfield release with how much I personally anticipate each one. The last two albums were very different (brilliant) beasts, and both made powerful statements, so I'm going completely mad waiting for a taste of the album - Songs For The End Of The World. Hopefully soon. I am told "it smokes" and Rick himself alluded to it being a little more "technical" and a mix of Shock Denial Anger Acceptance and Venus In Overdrive and management told me it was "a kickass album".
The US release is out October 9 and I can today confirm that Frontiers Records will release the album November 2 with one exclusive bonus track!

Night Ranger are back in action October 19 with a CD/DVD release of their 30th Anniversary celebratory performance in California - unplugged and live. The album - 24 Strings And A Drummer - is a greatest hits live package, but with a difference. This has to be the best acoustic album I have heard since Tesla's Five Man Acoustical Jam. It just oozes energy and atmosphere, with a small crowd of friends and fans gathered.
Here's the track list - This Boy Needs To Rock, When You Close Your Eyes, Sing Me Away, Growing Up In California, The Secret Of My Success, Sentimental Street, Four In The Morning, Let Him Run - Goodbye, Forever All Over Again, Don't Tell Me You Love Me, Sister Christian, (You Can Still) Rock In America and Boys Of Summer (bonus track)(Don Henley cover - CD only).
As you can see, it's the bands current set list more or less, but there's still a few surprises within the songs - different arrangements and some absolutely smoking acoustic solos. Astounding even! I think all Night Ranger fans are going to love this release.




The hype has been building surrounding the sophomore Vega release, following their acclaimed debut Kiss Of Life. Universal Music will be releasing the new album What The Hell in the next few months. But I've just had a chance to hear the whole thing and am completely blown away. It has exceeded all expectations I had and to be honest, it is such a momentous leap from the debut that I had to wonder if it was the same band I was listening to. Of course it was, but I'm so impressed by what the guys have done. It's a bold album - a little heavier, a lot more 'produced', with effects and beats and it is a lot more contemporary also. There are songs within that sound like the debut on steroids and others that sound like they could (and should) be on Top 40 radio right now. All wrapped up in a heavier and more intense package. It has a really slick groove and the production is simply amazing.

And speaking of bands that have stepped it up beyond expectations - stand by for the utterly brilliant new Degreed album! Again, massive expectations and again...exceeded in every aspect. The new Degreed album is bigger, heavier, better than their awesome debut. Like Vega, the guys have upped their game to major league and with this album will firmly place themselves amongst the best melodic rock bands in Europe right now. And also like Vega, the guys have updated their sound for an even more contemporary feel, while retaining all the melodic brilliance that was found on their debut.
A release is currently being planned. I'll be proud and honoured to be part of the guys plans in any way I can, after releasing their debut, but this is such an astoundingly good record...the guys really deserve a much bigger label than the small indie that is MelodicRock Records.
Just wait until you hear such songs as Access Denied, Black Cat, Blind Hearted and Just Another Heartache! World class and for those with the debut - you'll be equally amazed as I am.
Stay tuned!

Ten are back on October 19 with Heresy And Creed - an album that isn't perfect and could use a better track running order, but has some definite highlights that Ten fans are going to love. First of all, I think it's the best produced Ten album in recent years and best of all, I think the guitar work is the best since Vinny Burns was in the band - a lot of big riffs and some blinding solos. And I think this is perhaps the heaviest Ten album to date - it really packs a punch in places. And Gary sounds as good as ever. There's a lot to like. There is only a couple of ballads in there and the rest is pretty hard rocking.




As with all of the above albums - stay tuned right here for exclusive previews and more details to follow. Not to mention talk of a few more releases scheduled like Jorn's next release Symphony and Issa's anticipated obscure AOR covers album Can't Stop.


 :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 22, 2012, 09:56:03 PM
That is a shit-ton of updates.  Listening to the PoL song right now.  Not bad.

Funny how we were just talking 10 in the 'listening to now' thread.   :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 22, 2012, 11:46:15 PM
That's what jolted me posting this update.  I read the update yesterday and forgot to post then you and lowdz reminded me!  :lol

Also, there is a review for the new Eclipse in the reviews section.  Andrew raves about the album and gives it a perfect score.  Not too long to go until it's released.

Still gotta check that POL sample.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 23, 2012, 03:48:42 AM
I'm interested in hearing more from Jimi Jamison, although tbh modern melodic rock albums tend to sound more samey to me, so I don't have high expectations.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2012, 06:13:00 AM
I'm interested in hearing more from Jimi Jamison, although tbh modern melodic rock albums tend to sound more samey to me, so I don't have high expectations.

It's been driven by Erik Martensson, so it will be very high quality.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2012, 06:27:07 AM
Just listened to that new Pride of Lions song.  What a pile of shit. It might grow once I have the album, but Christ, how fucking corny is this.  POL were always very soft and pure AOR, but this song is like the theme to a bad 80's sitcom that no one ever remembers.  And why does Jim sing what feels like most of the song?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2012, 06:31:34 AM
Just listened to that new Pride of Lions song.  What a pile of shit. It might grow once I have the album, but Christ, how fucking corny is this.  POL were always very soft and pure AOR, but this song is like the theme to a bad 80's sitcom that no one ever remembers.  And why does Jim sing what feels like most of the song?

 :lol :lol  Well, my 'not bad' comment was trying to be a little kind.  In all honesty, I wasn't all that impressed on first listen, and glad you pointed out Jim as the lead vocals, cuz I was thinking 'this doesn't sound like Toby at all' for the first half of it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 23, 2012, 06:47:19 AM
Just listened to that new Pride of Lions song.  What a pile of shit. It might grow once I have the album, but Christ, how fucking corny is this.  POL were always very soft and pure AOR, but this song is like the theme to a bad 80's sitcom that no one ever remembers.  And why does Jim sing what feels like most of the song?

 :lol :lol  Well, my 'not bad' comment was trying to be a little kind.  In all honesty, I wasn't all that impressed on first listen, and glad you pointed out Jim as the lead vocals, cuz I was thinking 'this doesn't sound like Toby at all' for the first half of it.

I quite liked the first album but have to say it's all been corny and cliched and a bit too over-the-top for me. Too Broadway.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 23, 2012, 06:49:01 AM
I'm interested in hearing more from Jimi Jamison, although tbh modern melodic rock albums tend to sound more samey to me, so I don't have high expectations.

It's been driven by Erik Martensson, so it will be very high quality.

:blush I'm not familiar with the name, but I'll trust you on that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2012, 06:49:23 AM
Yeah, I know what you are saying, but their older stuff I thought was well written AOR, which wasn't too over the top.  This new song is absolute crap.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 23, 2012, 07:04:24 AM
Have you heard the new Eclipse? Oh my god what an album  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2012, 07:20:22 AM
Have you heard the new Eclipse? Oh my god what an album  :hefdaddy

just got despatched today.  Should get it next week.  Although, I'm having a sneak peak and listening to Wake Me Up.  Damn, this is gonna be fine!!  :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Pelata on August 23, 2012, 09:57:43 AM
I have not heard the new Eclipse. I was never too impressed with the debut, but the second album was an improvement. The W.E.T. album is blistering, so I am very interested to hear what Eclipse came up with this time out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2012, 06:57:17 AM
Damn, just listened to the new Eclipse for the first time.  Fucking amazing!!!!!!!!!!!  :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 31, 2012, 09:28:45 AM
Damn, just listened to the new Eclipse for the first time.  Fucking amazing!!!!!!!!!!!  :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal

Thought you might like it!  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2012, 04:22:54 AM
Yeah mate, I've listened through this about 4 times now and it's just amazing.  Some of these songs are just simply incredible.  Definitely gonna be in the top 5 of the year.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2012, 05:53:58 AM
Really enjoying the new Harry Hess too.  it's light, poppy but very melodic with some great performances.  The songs are short and too the point, and it's just a great pop rock record overall. 

Since I've never really gotten into Harem Scarem that much I took out the only two albums I have from them and am giving them a listen with new ears.  I have Overload and Hope.  I also have Live at the Gods too.  I need to get some of their older stuff I know.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 04, 2012, 06:43:59 AM
Really enjoying the new Harry Hess too.  it's light, poppy but very melodic with some great performances.  The songs are short and too the point, and it's just a great pop rock record overall. 

Since I've never really gotten into Harem Scarem that much I took out the only two albums I have from them and am giving them a listen with new ears.  I have Overload and Hope.  I also have Live at the Gods too.  I need to get some of their older stuff I know.

Mood Swings is mandatory.  Absolutely MANDATORY. Their s/t is very good too, but on the lighter side.   I'd avoid Voice of Reason for the time being.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 04, 2012, 06:46:28 AM
What's all this about Eclipse? Never heard of them. What is the new album's title?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 04, 2012, 07:54:06 AM
Bleed and Scream
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2012, 05:00:22 PM
Really enjoying the new Harry Hess too.  it's light, poppy but very melodic with some great performances.  The songs are short and too the point, and it's just a great pop rock record overall. 

Since I've never really gotten into Harem Scarem that much I took out the only two albums I have from them and am giving them a listen with new ears.  I have Overload and Hope.  I also have Live at the Gods too.  I need to get some of their older stuff I know.

Mood Swings is mandatory.  Absolutely MANDATORY. Their s/t is very good too, but on the lighter side.   I'd avoid Voice of Reason for the time being.

Cool, gonna try those two next.  The two I have a damn solid rock, good stuff.


What's all this about Eclipse? Never heard of them. What is the new album's title?

Go and get it now!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 05, 2012, 02:13:58 PM
I missed out on Harem Scarem bck in the day (yeah- it happened... ;D).
First album I got was Weight Of The World and then Higher and Overload, all of which I prefer to Mood Swings, but only just. I know that's not the general consensus. Great band, though the "lost years" from 95-01 weren't so good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 05, 2012, 04:58:48 PM
I'm only familiar with Mood Swings(its amazing).  I heard they changed their sound after MS, Chad would probably know best.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 05, 2012, 05:36:50 PM
No, they still went by HS for Voice of Reason, and I think for Karma Cleansing.  Rubber and Ultra Feel were released under the name Rubber - but (i believe) still HS in Japan since they were so well known there.

 
Great band, though the "lost years" from 95-01 weren't so good.

Understatement of the day.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 08, 2012, 05:11:24 AM
I have Eclipse - Are You Ready to Rock from 2008, and thought it was ok, but never really got into it. I figured I'd give the new album a try after seeing this thread.
I'm currently 4 songs into it, and I like it a little more than the other one so far. I'll definitely give it a few spins and see what I think. :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 09, 2012, 04:49:03 AM
Are You Ready to Rock was great IMO, but Bleed and Scream is much better, the songwriting is more mature and focused and the performances and production are top notch.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 09, 2012, 05:00:38 AM
I've listened to Bleed and Scream a couple of times so far, and I've enjoyed it. Nothing has really jumped out at me yet, but it's worth another few spins.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2012, 04:43:17 AM
New LORD video!!!!  :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZgOM8AhPRY&feature=g-all-u
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 15, 2012, 05:35:15 PM
Have found Work Of Art through a friend and have been enjoying their album In Progress alot the last couple of days.

Work Of Art - The Rain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLXtjSj_TyI&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2012, 06:04:06 PM
Have found Work Of Art through a friend and have been enjoying their album In Progress alot the last couple of days.

Work Of Art - The Rain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLXtjSj_TyI&feature=player_embedded)

Top 5 album of last year, and one of the inspirations why I made this thread in the first place.  Absolutely incredible album, just listened to it the other day, every song is melodic rock heaven.  The first album is amazing also, but I'd take In Progress over it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 15, 2012, 06:11:06 PM
Top 5 album of last year, and one of the inspirations why I made this thread in the first place.  Absolutely incredible album, just listened to it the other day, every song is melodic rock heaven.  The first album is amazing also, but I'd take In Progress over it.
Cool to hear!  :tup Yea those melodies are like pure heaven!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on September 15, 2012, 08:45:49 PM
Have found Work Of Art through a friend and have been enjoying their album In Progress alot the last couple of days.

Work Of Art - The Rain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLXtjSj_TyI&feature=player_embedded)

Sounds like another Magnificent. Sweet!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 16, 2012, 02:38:48 AM
Similar style, yes.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 16, 2012, 03:32:26 AM
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_S2Cjw1XN1Fs/Si3niSNujEI/AAAAAAAABBc/D1-Rq3OSDYQ/s400/sanctuaryl.jpg)

This is simply excellent, thanks Scorpion!!  :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2012, 07:30:59 AM
JIMI JAMISON ONE OF MELODIC ROCK'S MOST LEGENDARY VOICES RETURNS WITH HIS NEW SOLO ALBUM:
Frontiers Records is excited to announce the release of Jimi Jamison's new solo album Never Too Late on November 2 in Europe and November the 6 in North America.
Often referred to as one of the American top Rock vocalists, Jimi Jamison has been the singer with Target, Cobra and finally Survivor who rejoined in late 2011 - for more than a decade, apart from being an accomplished solo artist on his own.
Jimi performed back up vocals on recordings by ZZ Top, Joe Walsh and numerous other recording artists. Billy Gibbons refers to Jimi as the fourth member of ZZ Top and Casey Kasem, on his nationally syndicated radio show American Top 40, referred to Jimi Jamison as The Voice. Among Jamison's best known performances are "Burning Heart", from the Rocky IV movie which hit #2 on the Billboard Charts, "High On You" (#8), and "The Search Is Over" (#4).

His solo career started in 1991 with the release of When Love Comes Down followed in 1999 by Empires, the album which included the theme, "I'm Always Here" for Baywatch. In 2008 Jamison teamed up with the other former Survivor bandmate, Jim Peterik who wrote and produced for him the acclaimed album Crossroads Moment. On the heels of this superb release, Jimi toured Europe a few times and culminated with an appearance at the popular Firefest in the UK in 2011.
In the meanwhile Jamison started to work together with Swedish songwriter and producer Erik Mrtensson (W.E.T., Eclipse etc), who had met virtually while working on the successful Kimball Jamison duet album to which Mrtensson had contributed with some songwriting. They started laying down the foundations for a new solo album backed immediately by the enthusiasm of Frontiers Records President, Serafino Perugino.

The release took a good part of 2011 and 2012 to be completed, but the final results shine! This is truly a monumental Melodic Rock album, where a stunning contemporary Melodic Rock songwriting meets Jamison's stunning vocal abilities and a massive production. This album rocks really hard at times; that's probably the heaviest Jamison has ever been involved with since the times of Cobra. Still the melodies are going to haunt you and stay in your mind for a long time.
The songs on this cd are truly some of the strongest of my career says Jamison. It's a great pleasure to have songs with such power and ballads with such truth and feeling. It makes it easy to realize the emotion in each vocal. This is my favorite cd to date and "The Air I Breathe" is the most magic song for me. A track like this only comes along once in a while. Erik really hit the mark here. Brilliant writing.
Get ready for a monster of an album and a true Melodic Rock masterpiece!

Never Too Late tracklisting includes: Everybody's Got A Broken Heart; The Great Unknown; Never Too Late; I Can't Turn Back; Street Survivor; The Air I Breathe; Not Tonight; Calling The Game; Bullet In The Gun; Heaven Call Your Name; Walk On (Wildest Dreams).
The first single off the album the title track Never Too Late - can be streamed in full on the Frontiers webradio www.frontiers.it/webradio.

Jimi Jamison: Jimi Jamison - Lead Vocals; Erik Mrtensson - Lead & Rhythm Guitar. Bass, Keyboards & Backing Vocals; Magnus Ulfstedt - Drums; Jonas ijvall - Hammond B3, Piano & Analog Synthesizers; Magnus Henriksson - Lead Guitar on "Street Survivor" & "Heaven Call Your Name".

(https://www.melodicrock.com/jimijamison-nevertoolate250.jpg)


 :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 21, 2012, 07:44:44 AM
Boy, those song titles read like Jamison era Survivor song titles. I actually had to check a few of those. :lol

I checked out some samples on the intertubes, and it sounded promising. Not metally like a lot of modern melodic rock albums are, and Jamison's voice is sounding great. I'll have to pick this one up.
And after reading their PR blurb, now I want to check out a bunch of his other past albums they mentioned too. :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2012, 08:00:23 AM
Yeah, I'm not that familar with his past work either and will probably look into it more.  Basically here, we have a great voice with some killer songs written by Martensson.  I think we are in for another solid album.

Blob, you should check Toby's Hitchcock's album.  Also entirely created by Erik Martensson, it's amazing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 21, 2012, 12:43:23 PM
Love his voice and love his work with Survivor. There is a Survivor album in my top 50. I enjoyed the Kimball/Jamison album from a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 21, 2012, 01:41:03 PM
You guys remember Jameson's pre Surviver band, Cobra?
The First Strike album was awesome!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2012, 05:44:22 PM
Love his voice and love his work with Survivor. There is a Survivor album in my top 50. I enjoyed the Kimball/Jamison album from a couple of years ago.

Waiting for this top 50.  And yes, the Kimball/Jamison album was a nice slice of AOR.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 23, 2012, 09:56:31 AM
Don't think there'll be anything of a surprise left by then as I keep recommending albums here.  ;D
Keep listening to albums and thinking they have to go in the 50 but can't bear to leave any out that are there now. May have to start on a v.2 now and put all those in there.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Scorpion on September 23, 2012, 10:44:06 AM
Just make it your Top 100, like Nick did. :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2012, 04:48:21 AM
Lowdz, asked you in the haul thread, but how is the new Magnum?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 24, 2012, 05:05:50 AM
Lowdz, asked you in the haul thread, but how is the new Magnum?

It's ok. Listened to it a couple of times so far and it seems better than any of the reunion albums, but I haven't loved any of them- they've just been decent albums for me. It's not going to knock the 80s albums off their perch but sounds better than anything post Wings so far.
Bob's Gary Hughes written albums are bbetter than anything Magnum have done since WoH for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2012, 05:15:02 AM
I've enjoyed the reunion albums too, nothing much more.  Moonking was probably the best of the bunch, with Alice being a close second.  If you say it's the best of the reunions, then I should like it.

I agree, The Tower, Spirit of Man, When Empires Burn and Immortal are all better than anything that Magnum have done since the late eighties.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 24, 2012, 05:27:48 AM
I haven't put much effort into the newer albums- nothing really stuck out. This one seems to have some bigger choruses. The songs just don't seem to have any breathing room these days.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 27, 2012, 04:10:20 PM
Yeah, I'm not that familar with his past work either and will probably look into it more.  Basically here, we have a great voice with some killer songs written by Martensson.  I think we are in for another solid album.

Blob, you should check Toby's Hitchcock's album.  Also entirely created by Erik Martensson, it's amazing.

The samples on Melodicrock.com a couple of days ago sound awesome. Could be even better than the Eclipse album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 28, 2012, 05:56:40 AM
It's gonna be hard to top Eclipse, but the samples do sound incredible.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 02, 2012, 03:40:25 PM
FYI ... Progstreaming.com is streaming Magnum - On The 13th Day (for 13 days only!). Probably only 12 days now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2012, 04:57:07 AM
FYI ... Progstreaming.com is streaming Magnum - On The 13th Day (for 13 days only!). Probably only 12 days now.

Should be receiving this album this week.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 05, 2012, 06:16:24 AM
I think I may have posted Neonfly before, but with the Magnum talk, it seems highly appropriate since they're opening for Magnum on this tour (they opened for Pagan's Mind last year).  If you don't know them, invest 4 minutes for the YT link below.  One of my favorites (easily Top 10.... maybe Top 5) in the past couple of years.  The album is A++ from top to bottom.  The Messenger is my favorite.

(https://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/61/e10b4d5d938945339cbf450e884e31e9/l.jpg)

A Gift To Remember (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9NyAFqi7x8&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 07, 2012, 04:03:36 AM
Hmm, not bad on the first listen, sounds like it could grow.  Will have to check out some other songs on the album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 07, 2012, 10:40:43 AM
That actually is one of the weaker songs on the album.  I recommend the following:

The Messenger (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOPbOHdFO1E)

The Ornament (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V12wWggTKg) - killer instrumental
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2012, 05:19:31 AM
Listening to the new Pride of Lions album that I just received in the mail.  Damn, this is some cheesy shit. These songs would even make Journey laugh, and I'm only four songs in.

As I type, Shine On is pretty good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 08, 2012, 05:29:41 AM
Listening to the new Pride of Lions album that I just received in the mail.  Damn, this is some cheesy shit. These songs would even make Journey laugh, and I'm only four songs in.

As I type, Shine On is pretty good.

I've had a listen and it is too cheesy even for me. I think peterik is aiming for Lloyd Webber territory and over-shooting. Camp with a side order of camp.
The new Bonrud album is class though. Tougher-sounding than the 1st album.
The Jimi Jamison is good but not as good as Eclipse.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Scorpion on October 08, 2012, 05:30:48 AM
Discovered this gem over the weekend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=777ujZoPh4A

The album isn't really that much melodic rock, but this track is pretty swell.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 08, 2012, 05:44:02 AM
Listening to the new Pride of Lions album that I just received in the mail.  Damn, this is some cheesy shit. These songs would even make Journey laugh, and I'm only four songs in.

Oy, back off from Journey, pal! :getoffmylawn:

The Jimi Jamison is good but not as good as Eclipse.

I didn't think this was out yet? And after several listens, I still don't see the big deal with the new Eclipse album. It's not bad, but it doesn't do much for me overall.  :dunno:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2012, 05:47:57 AM
Ring of Fire is actually one of the first prog metal/melodic neoclassical crossover bands I ever discovered, many many years ago.  Absolutely incredible musicianship and performances.  The band has Mark Boals, Tony Macalpine, Phillip Bynoe, Virgil Donati, Vitalij Kuprij and also featured George Bellas at one point.  Every album is decent and very different from one another.  The first album is actually under Mark Boals' name and the album is called Ring of Fire.  That is one hell of an album.

The Oracle is darker and is probably my fav out of the four.  Dreamtower is more melodic rock which consists of the song you posted.  The last one IMO was average, but a decent listen.  The live DVD is absolutely incredible;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whx3z7AnV3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtZXuZW5Clw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw2RF6D6wIE

A really under appreciated band.


Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2012, 05:49:53 AM
Listening to the new Pride of Lions album that I just received in the mail.  Damn, this is some cheesy shit. These songs would even make Journey laugh, and I'm only four songs in.

As I type, Shine On is pretty good.

I've had a listen and it is too cheesy even for me. I think peterik is aiming for Lloyd Webber territory and over-shooting. Camp with a side order of camp.
The new Bonrud album is class though. Tougher-sounding than the 1st album.
The Jimi Jamison is good but not as good as Eclipse.

Gonna hold off until the release to hear Jimi, but I really don't expect it to beat Bleed and Scream.

Never heard of Bonrud.

And year, this album is like a fucking musical.


Listening to the new Pride of Lions album that I just received in the mail.  Damn, this is some cheesy shit. These songs would even make Journey laugh, and I'm only four songs in.

Oy, back off from Journey, pal! :getoffmylawn:

The Jimi Jamison is good but not as good as Eclipse.

I didn't think this was out yet? And after several listens, I still don't see the big deal with the new Eclipse album. It's not bad, but it doesn't do much for me overall.  :dunno:

Love Journey a lot, just trying to point out how fucking cheesy this album is, even for me.

I can see how people wouldn't go crazy over Bleed and Scream, but I love it personally, top 5 of the year.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Scorpion on October 08, 2012, 05:55:35 AM
Ring of Fire is actually one of the first prog metal/melodic neoclassical crossover bands I ever discovered, many many years ago.  Absolutely incredible musicianship and performances.  The band has Mark Boals, Tony Macalpine, Phillip Bynoe, Virgil Donati, Vitalij Kuprij and also featured George Bellas at one point.  Every album is decent and very different from one another.  The first album is actually under Mark Boals' name and the album is called Ring of Fire.  That is one hell of an album.

The Oracle is darker and is probably my fav out of the four.  Dreamtower is more melodic rock which consists of the song you posted.  The last one IMO was average, but a decent listen.  The live DVD is absolutely incredible;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whx3z7AnV3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtZXuZW5Clw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw2RF6D6wIE

A really under appreciated band.

I find the DVD to be a little heavy on the solos. I mean, a guitar, keyboard, bass and drum solo on their first live DVD? It's really great performance-wise, but a little too much. I mean, nearly thirty minutes of solos? I don't really need that, tbh.

Oh, and I need to get Oracle. I only know Circle of Time and the title track really well, but those are really awesome.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 08, 2012, 05:55:44 AM
Love Journey a lot, just trying to point out how fucking cheesy this album is, even for me.

Well cheese is delicious. :symphonyx:

I can see how people wouldn't go crazy over Bleed and Scream, but I love it personally, top 5 of the year.

And I can see how you'd love it, as it is a consistently good album, it's just that for me personally it wasn't great. Each to his own. :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2012, 06:00:46 AM
Ring of Fire is actually one of the first prog metal/melodic neoclassical crossover bands I ever discovered, many many years ago.  Absolutely incredible musicianship and performances.  The band has Mark Boals, Tony Macalpine, Phillip Bynoe, Virgil Donati, Vitalij Kuprij and also featured George Bellas at one point.  Every album is decent and very different from one another.  The first album is actually under Mark Boals' name and the album is called Ring of Fire.  That is one hell of an album.

The Oracle is darker and is probably my fav out of the four.  Dreamtower is more melodic rock which consists of the song you posted.  The last one IMO was average, but a decent listen.  The live DVD is absolutely incredible;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whx3z7AnV3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtZXuZW5Clw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw2RF6D6wIE

A really under appreciated band.

I find the DVD to be a little heavy on the solos. I mean, a guitar, keyboard, bass and drum solo on their first live DVD? It's really great performance-wise, but a little too much. I mean, nearly thirty minutes of solos? I don't really need that, tbh.

Oh, and I need to get Oracle. I only know Circle of Time and the title track really well, but those are really awesome.

Well, it is a band filled with virtuosos, so solo are gonna happen.  Saying that, I'm not a fan of solos in concerts, but the guitar, drums and keyboard sections are all incredible and I love watching them.

Saying that, this DVD was after the Oracle, so they didn't ventue into more melodic rock until the next album.  Check them all out and see what you think, they are simply an incredible band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2012, 06:03:42 AM
Love Journey a lot, just trying to point out how fucking cheesy this album is, even for me.

Well cheese is delicious. :symphonyx:

I can see how people wouldn't go crazy over Bleed and Scream, but I love it personally, top 5 of the year.

And I can see how you'd love it, as it is a consistently good album, it's just that for me personally it wasn't great. Each to his own. :tup

Cheese is amazing, but this Pride of Lions is like a 5 cheese overload, it's just too much.

Still check out the Toby Hitchcock album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2012, 06:05:17 AM
Okay, after the first full listen of Pride of Lions, I really only have four songs that I enjoy; Shine On, Vital Signs, If It Doesn't Kill Me and Ask Me Yesterday.  The rest is a cheese factory.  I appreciate more guitar work though than the other POL albums.

Shine On however could become a classic AOR track, it's wonderful.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Scorpion on October 08, 2012, 06:30:00 AM
Well, it is a band filled with virtuosos, so solo are gonna happen.  Saying that, I'm not a fan of solos in concerts, but the guitar, drums and keyboard sections are all incredible and I love watching them.

True, but many of the solos in the songs themselves are superior to the solo spots imho, because they offer the solos a certain framework, so to sepak.

Saying that, this DVD was after the Oracle, so they didn't ventue into more melodic rock until the next album.  Check them all out and see what you think, they are simply an incredible band.

I'm currently listening to Oracle, and I'm really liking what I'm hearing, though it is very different to Dreamtower. I prefer McAlpine to Bellas, personally, but they are both incredible players and Bellas does a great job on Oracle, imho. Circle of Time and Samurai are my favourite as of now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 08, 2012, 07:21:30 AM
I need to check out Ring Of Fire. Sounds like a can't miss.

I really only know Bellas from the first Mogg/Way album, and he's pretty good on that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Scorpion on October 08, 2012, 07:26:06 AM
Start with Circle of Time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkTXebBhfLA), and if you like it, work yourself through their stuff from there.

Or the link that I posted earlier, for My Deja Vu (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=777ujZoPh4A), which is less power metal and more melodic rock stuff. Your call.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Scorpion on October 08, 2012, 01:41:54 PM
Just finished with The Oracle, and it's a great album from start to finish. Circle of Time remains my favourite, but the title track, Samurai, City of Dead and Take Me Home are all masterpiece in their own right. :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 08, 2012, 03:13:42 PM
I've always meant to check out Ring of Fire more too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2012, 03:58:56 PM
Well, it is a band filled with virtuosos, so solo are gonna happen.  Saying that, I'm not a fan of solos in concerts, but the guitar, drums and keyboard sections are all incredible and I love watching them.

True, but many of the solos in the songs themselves are superior to the solo spots imho, because they offer the solos a certain framework, so to sepak.

Saying that, this DVD was after the Oracle, so they didn't ventue into more melodic rock until the next album.  Check them all out and see what you think, they are simply an incredible band.

I'm currently listening to Oracle, and I'm really liking what I'm hearing, though it is very different to Dreamtower. I prefer McAlpine to Bellas, personally, but they are both incredible players and Bellas does a great job on Oracle, imho. Circle of Time and Samurai are my favourite as of now.

With your solo statement, that can be said for most bands that have solo spots IMO.

I prefer Macalpine too, he is one of my top 5 guitarists of all time, but I think Bellas fits the style of Oracle really well.  I would have liked to hear what Macalpine would have done but I'm a big Bellas fan too. 


Just finished with The Oracle, and it's a great album from start to finish. Circle of Time remains my favourite, but the title track, Samurai, City of Dead and Take Me Home are all masterpiece in their own right. :metal :metal

Those first three songs you mentioned are my favs too along with Vengeance For Blood.  Bellas' solo on that is incredible.


I need to check out Ring Of Fire. Sounds like a can't miss.

I really only know Bellas from the first Mogg/Way album, and he's pretty good on that.

I've always meant to check that Mogg/Way cause I always knew Bellas played on that.

I've always meant to check out Ring of Fire more too.

Do it man.

Loving this appreciation of ROF.  Check Mark Boals, Ring of Fire too, great album.  It has Atlantis, Keeper of the Flame, Dreamer and heaps of other great songs.

Check Mark Boals second album too Edge of the World, that's more melodic rock too and has Macalpine and Donati on a lot of tracks, and was a fav of mine for a long time.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 10, 2012, 06:24:31 AM
just listened to the new Dokken for the first time.  Hmm...not bad, but pretty mild.  I expected more from Empire but unfortunately that's the fastest and heaviest song on the album, the rest of the album is mid tempo.  A couple of rockers at the end, but Don sounds really tired and his vocals simply aren't what they use to be.

It deserves more listens though as there is some potential for it to grow.  Don can't even do his own backing vocals, Mark Boals does all backing vocals and harmonies from what I could hear.  Mark does wonderful work though and gives the album a little variety in the vocal department.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 10, 2012, 06:38:10 AM
just listened to the new Dokken for the first time.  Hmm...not bad, but pretty mild.  I expected more from Empire but unfortunately that's the fastest and heaviest song on the album, the rest of the album is mid tempo.  A couple of rockers at the end, but Don sounds really tired and his vocals simply aren't what they use to be.

It deserves more listens though as there is some potential for it to grow.  Don can't even do his own backing vocals, Mark Boals does all backing vocals and harmonies from what I could hear.  Mark does wonderful work though and gives the album a little variety in the vocal department.

It's definitly held back by DD's inability to let loose because of his voice issues. Maybe he should've just let Mark Boals sing the leads. and him do the harmonies.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 10, 2012, 03:31:33 PM
At least then the songs would have had more life to them.  I think it could be a grower but not a home run of an album I'm afraid.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 10, 2012, 04:15:43 PM
It's a solid disc, nothing spectacular though. I feel the same way about the new Kiss. Neither the new Dokken or new Kiss will be go to discs for me; I'll only play them once in a while. I think if Dokken took the best songs from broken bones and lightning strikes again and condensed them into one disc, that would be a killer album. Some filler on both that bring them both down a notch. And yeah, Don is struggling at times vocally.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 10, 2012, 06:45:12 PM
Im not sure why anyone would waste their time on the new Dokken, no offence, guys. :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2012, 04:15:36 AM
I think if Dokken took the best songs from broken bones and lightning strikes again and condensed them into one disc, that would be a killer album. Some filler on both that bring them both down a notch.

Totally agee.


Im not sure why anyone would waste their time on the new Dokken, no offence, guys. :)

Why?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 11, 2012, 06:01:26 AM
Well, I'm just reading the comments that you guys are making and I'm thinking, how can any of this be a surprise. I'm sure that I would have the exact same sentiment, but I'll hang on to my 12 bucks, thank you very much.
But that's me. I've never been a big fan anyway.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2012, 06:18:16 AM
Well I've always been a fan of Don and the last album was worth a listen so I had no hesitation buying it.  I actually just listened to it again and it was a lot better the second time around.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 11, 2012, 06:22:39 AM
That's cool. :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 11, 2012, 02:07:21 PM
I'm really enjoying most of the new KISS. Paul, like Don, is struggling but he is at least able to "give it some welly" as we say here in the north of England. I like the 70s KISS vibe. Gene puts in a very good performance.

I've not bought the Dokken- Spotify has saved me a few quid there. Shame as it could be a decent effort with better vocals. It was never going to be up there with T&N, UL&K and BFTA.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 11, 2012, 02:08:54 PM
But the thing is..I trust Paul. He's going to give it whatever he's got. I'm just not sold on Don Dokken.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 11, 2012, 02:14:50 PM
But the thing is..I trust Paul. He's going to give it whatever he's got. I'm just not sold on Don Dokken.

Paul Stanley is a hero of mine and he's never let me down- apart from Carnival Of Souls. Now that was a mistake.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2012, 03:47:42 PM
I'm really enjoying most of the new KISS. Paul, like Don, is struggling but he is at least able to "give it some welly" as we say here in the north of England. I like the 70s KISS vibe. Gene puts in a very good performance.

I've not bought the Dokken- Spotify has saved me a few quid there. Shame as it could be a decent effort with better vocals. It was never going to be up there with T&N, UL&K and BFTA.

Speaking of T&N, I'm looking forward to the new album from these guys, should be interesting.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 11, 2012, 04:34:02 PM
I'm really enjoying most of the new KISS. Paul, like Don, is struggling but he is at least able to "give it some welly" as we say here in the north of England. I like the 70s KISS vibe. Gene puts in a very good performance.

I've not bought the Dokken- Spotify has saved me a few quid there. Shame as it could be a decent effort with better vocals. It was never going to be up there with T&N, UL&K and BFTA.

Speaking of T&N, I'm looking forward to the new album from these guys, should be interesting.

From the reports I've heard it would be best not to get your hopes up  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 11, 2012, 07:00:25 PM
I listened to the samples of the new T&N.  I was looking forward to it, but now not so much after hearing the samples.  The Ripper and Sebastian Bach songs are very good.  The rest, meh.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 11, 2012, 10:56:12 PM
I'm really enjoying most of the new KISS. Paul, like Don, is struggling but he is at least able to "give it some welly" as we say here in the north of England. I like the 70s KISS vibe. Gene puts in a very good performance.

I like the new KISS album too, although probably not quite as much as the last one. Paul's voice has sounded really harsh the past few years, but he's still got the range there, and still gives a good performance.
From what I've heard of recent Dokken, his voice is pretty poor. There's just no range there at all, and his voice is rough and weak.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 12, 2012, 05:22:55 AM
I'm really enjoying most of the new KISS. Paul, like Don, is struggling but he is at least able to "give it some welly" as we say here in the north of England. I like the 70s KISS vibe. Gene puts in a very good performance.

I've not bought the Dokken- Spotify has saved me a few quid there. Shame as it could be a decent effort with better vocals. It was never going to be up there with T&N, UL&K and BFTA.

Speaking of T&N, I'm looking forward to the new album from these guys, should be interesting.

From the reports I've heard it would be best not to get your hopes up  ;D

 :-[
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 12, 2012, 05:37:07 AM
Just stumbled across FM, with Andy Barnett from Maiden's side group during the SIT era.  Never knew That Girl was their song.  Listened to a couple of songs and they are amazing.  Anyone knoe FM??
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 12, 2012, 02:31:52 PM
Just stumbled across FM, with Andy Barnett from Maiden's side group during the SIT era.  Never knew That Girl was their song.  Listened to a couple of songs and they are amazing.  Anyone knoe FM??

Back in the mists of time I saw them it seemed like every week as they seemed to support every band touring in the UK. First album was very safe AOR, but some great songs on it. With the addition of Andy Barnet the sound toughened a bit and got less keyboard heavy (if that's not a contradiction in terms) and got a bit of a bluesier edge. Steve Overland has a great voice- very soulful and not annoying like Glenn Hughes'.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 12, 2012, 04:59:56 PM
Very I liked Steve Overlands voice instantly.  So, what album is the best to start with?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 13, 2012, 02:47:10 AM
Very I liked Steve Overlands voice instantly.  So, what album is the best to start with?

Probably the first (Indiscreet) if you like That Girl and the AOR sound. I only have that and Long Time No See which has two albums, Aphrodisiac and Paraphenalia and a live and bonus disc. Got it dirt cheap a few years ago in a closing down sale. Aphro is probably the better of the two. Never been a huge fan tbh but they are worth checking out if you like that sort of thing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 13, 2012, 09:32:13 AM
Found a 2cd comp of Indiscreet and Tough it Out which I will order.

Listening to some Russ Ballard now, in such an 80's mood and there is so much great 80's stuff out there that wasn't big.  This Ballard album from 1984 seems damn good too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 13, 2012, 11:27:40 AM
Found a 2cd comp of Indiscreet and Tough it Out which I will order.

Listening to some Russ Ballard now, in such an 80's mood and there is so much great 80's stuff out there that wasn't big.  This Ballard album from 1984 seems damn good too.

I have a couple of the singles from TIO and they are fine. I think Desmond Child was involved on that album.

I only know Russ Ballard from other people covering his songs.

Currently I'm enjoying the Magnum album. Have you got that yet?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 13, 2012, 11:39:14 AM
Just listening to the samples of the new Mob Rules album. Sounds pretty good.

https://www.metal-hammer.de/incoming/article327399/mob-rules-countdown-close-my-eyes-vom-album-cannibal-nation.html

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 13, 2012, 04:38:53 PM
I've only listened through the Magnum once and nothing stuck out straight away, needs more spins but sounds promising if you are enjoying it.

I'm going to preorder the Mob Rules also when I order FM, the last Mob Rules album was incredible.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2012, 04:05:43 AM
Check out this song Blaze Bayley has done with a guitarist named Chris Declercq, it's pretty incredible IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2Xuju6Mey8
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 14, 2012, 04:07:18 AM
was that from Blaze's latest disc?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2012, 04:38:31 AM
was that from Blaze's latest disc?

No, just some random track I think they just collaborated together.  Blaze's latest disc is absolutely nothing like that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 15, 2012, 04:52:22 AM
I just got Jimi Jamison - Empires. I've already listened to it a couple of times, and I'm really digging it so far! I wasn't expecting it to be this heavy. It's just the right amount of heavy without turning into generic metal.
Hopefully his new album is just as good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2012, 04:57:07 AM
Hmm...probably worth a listen then, since I'm not really familiar with any of his stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 15, 2012, 05:08:55 AM
If you like Too Hot To Sleep, it's worth a listen. Check out "First Day of Love" or "Run From The Thunder" on Youtube. Probably my favourite tracks so far.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2012, 03:47:57 PM
Yeah, Empires is pretty good. No Peterik or Frankie Sullivan but it's decent. Not sure about the Baywatch theme though...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on October 15, 2012, 06:15:58 PM
If you like Too Hot To Sleep, it's worth a listen. Check out "First Day of Love" or "Run From The Thunder" on Youtube. Probably my favourite tracks so far.

Wow, I'm hooked just reading your post Blob.  I love Too Hot To Sleep.  Just saw this video for a band I never heard of on Melodic.net and I digging this song a lot.  The band is called Perfect View.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cCDCLnm_yts#!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 15, 2012, 10:59:52 PM
Yeah, Empires is pretty good. No Peterik or Frankie Sullivan but it's decent. Not sure about the Baywatch theme though...

Yeah, they should have stuck it at the end instead of just when the album is starting to get moving. Admittedly, I like the song though in a cheesy cornball kind of way. :lol

If you like Too Hot To Sleep, it's worth a listen. Check out "First Day of Love" or "Run From The Thunder" on Youtube. Probably my favourite tracks so far.

Wow, I'm hooked just reading your post Blob.  I love Too Hot To Sleep.  Just saw this video for a band I never heard of on Melodic.net and I digging this song a lot.  The band is called Perfect View.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cCDCLnm_yts#!

I quite liked that. Might have to check it out.
For me Vital Signs and Too Hot To Sleep are about equal as my favourites. :tup (maybe Too Hot To Sleep slightly ahead because of the heavier sound and better production)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2012, 05:02:13 AM
If you like Too Hot To Sleep, it's worth a listen. Check out "First Day of Love" or "Run From The Thunder" on Youtube. Probably my favourite tracks so far.

Wow, I'm hooked just reading your post Blob.  I love Too Hot To Sleep.  Just saw this video for a band I never heard of on Melodic.net and I digging this song a lot.  The band is called Perfect View.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cCDCLnm_yts#!

This is impressive, never heard of the band but they have a great sound.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on October 16, 2012, 05:57:43 AM
Blob,  I saw Survivor on the "When Seconds Count" Tour.  But I am with you on the Vital Signs and Too Hot Too Sleep as their best albums.  I also love Premonition. 

You are right about the sound production on THTS.  I was blown away when I first heard the album.

And Wolf,  I might have to pick this band's album up too.  It sounded great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 18, 2012, 05:02:28 AM
Pulled this out yesterday;

(https://img11.nnm.ru/5/7/f/d/7/57fd767b2a874353b784617c71c15e9e_full.jpg)

Great melodic rock from Australia.  They had a hit single over here with one of the songs but this was their only album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT5kDrmlzb8


Also just received these in the mail;

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Featuring Frank Vestry, Rob Marcello and Bruno Ravel from Danger Danger.  Prett solid melodic rock in the Danger Danger vein with nice vocals, guitars and production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7FqMgRvd6E


(https://img15.nnm.ru/0/c/9/5/9/5db23350af6fae66e5691ad42fb.jpg)

British melodic rock featuring Tony Mills, solid album with good melodies;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz_7x1NpHw8
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Scorpion on October 18, 2012, 05:03:48 AM
That looks like either a video game or a porn DVD cover. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 18, 2012, 07:31:10 AM
The Marcello/Vestry is very good. Saw Rob Marcello wih D2 years ago and he was excellent.

The Serpentine didnt stand out from the pack tbh and Roxus I never heard of. I'll try youtube
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 18, 2012, 08:30:24 AM
Listening to Serpantine now. Thanks, Wolf..Not really that bad. Love Tony Mills.
Not sure that I could part with any money for this at this time, but I will follow up and sample some more tracks.

How is his stuff with TNT? Can you make any recommendations? Songs or albums?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 18, 2012, 11:34:15 AM
Listening to Serpantine now. Thanks, Wolf..Not really that bad. Love Tony Mills.
Not sure that I could part with any money for this at this time, but I will follow up and sample some more tracks.

How is his stuff with TNT? Can you make any recommendations? Songs or albums?

The last album they did was ok. The two previous should be avoided at all costs if you have any musical taste whatsoever (and I know you have!)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 18, 2012, 04:04:07 PM
Listening to Serpantine now. Thanks, Wolf..Not really that bad. Love Tony Mills.
Not sure that I could part with any money for this at this time, but I will follow up and sample some more tracks.

How is his stuff with TNT? Can you make any recommendations? Songs or albums?

No worries.  Like lowdz, I haven't followed TNT for a while, the last few from what I've heard have been pretty bad.


The Marcello/Vestry is very good. Saw Rob Marcello wih D2 years ago and he was excellent.

The Serpentine didnt stand out from the pack tbh and Roxus I never heard of. I'll try youtube

I think you would quite like Roxus. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 21, 2012, 02:50:07 AM
Youtube'd Roxus and they sound good. Surprised to find Play.com have  it so ordered it. Sounds a bit like Valentine's first album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2012, 03:36:20 AM
Youtube'd Roxus and they sound good. Surprised to find Play.com have  it so ordered it. Sounds a bit like Valentine's first album.

Nice, glad you like them, it is a really great album that I had forgotten about.  I'm surprised you found a copy too actually.

Don't know Valentine.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 21, 2012, 04:26:03 AM
Youtube'd Roxus and they sound good. Surprised to find Play.com have  it so ordered it. Sounds a bit like Valentine's first album.

Nice, glad you like them, it is a really great album that I had forgotten about.  I'm surprised you found a copy too actually.

Don't know Valentine.

Hugo was their singer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdOOxzq2mmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6P_SBs6Ojk&feature=related
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2012, 04:48:22 AM
Heard you mention the name, will check out the links after I finish listening to this which I found in store brand new today.  I rare find for the stores in my area;

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SNJmk-j2DxM/TARZXW8863I/AAAAAAAAAac/L40LyTY-0Z0/s400/giant+last.jpg)

Halfway through and it's fucking great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 21, 2012, 05:38:26 AM
It is indeed a classic. Recommended it early in this very thread. Wins on all fronts- songs, vocals, guitar- production.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2012, 05:51:16 AM
Just listened to the whole thing.  I don't remember the last time I really enjoyed an album on the first listen, it's incredible.  Time to order Time To Burn and 3 I guess.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 21, 2012, 06:16:23 AM
Just listened to the whole thing.  I don't remember the last time I really enjoyed an album on the first listen, it's incredible.  Time to order Time To Burn and 3 I guess.

Some prefer Time To Burn to LOTR, but not me. It's a good album, certainly, but I prefer the debut. 3 is a collection of outtakes from the first two and has some good songs that would have made the albums but they sounded too similar to songs they already had on there. It does have my favourite "breakup" song ever in I Can't Let Go. How that didn't make TTB I'll never know. There's something about the part where it gos quiet and Dan sngs "I thought of no-one else but you today..." that gets me. And I'm not usually soppy like that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2012, 06:23:43 AM
If they are the same quality as these than I'll love them.  I only ever owned Promise Land due to Terry Brock and John Roth, but I realise that album was decent but really doesn't compare to this album.  I know Dan helped write some songs on it, but the quality is not like Runaways.

I also remember I'll See You In My Dreams, I'm pretty sure it was a minor hit over here in Austrlia, could be wrong but the chorus pricked my ears immediately.  Seriously one of the best 80's songs ever, and simply one of the most stunning guitar solos ever, and I've only listened to the album once.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 21, 2012, 06:47:20 AM
I also remember I'll See You In My Dreams, I'm pretty sure it was a minor hit over here in Austrlia, could be wrong but the chorus pricked my ears immediately.  Seriously one of the best 80's songs ever, and simply one of the most stunning guitar solos ever, and I've only listened to the album once.

The only song I know by them.  Fantastic power ballad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on October 21, 2012, 06:51:08 AM
Heard you mention the name, will check out the links after I finish listening to this which I found in store brand new today.  I rare find for the stores in my area;

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SNJmk-j2DxM/TARZXW8863I/AAAAAAAAAac/L40LyTY-0Z0/s400/giant+last.jpg)

Halfway through and it's fucking great.

Love, LOVE this album.  You know I haven't spun their second album in a while.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on October 21, 2012, 06:52:44 AM
Chad, you don't remember this song?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZetbMxU7Ro


I had them on VHS playing this song live on Arsinio Hall's show.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 21, 2012, 07:15:03 AM
Nope.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2012, 03:54:29 AM
I also remember I'll See You In My Dreams, I'm pretty sure it was a minor hit over here in Austrlia, could be wrong but the chorus pricked my ears immediately.  Seriously one of the best 80's songs ever, and simply one of the most stunning guitar solos ever, and I've only listened to the album once.

The only song I know by them.  Fantastic power ballad.

You need to get this album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 22, 2012, 06:11:11 AM
I also remember I'll See You In My Dreams, I'm pretty sure it was a minor hit over here in Austrlia, could be wrong but the chorus pricked my ears immediately.  Seriously one of the best 80's songs ever, and simply one of the most stunning guitar solos ever, and I've only listened to the album once.

The only song I know by them.  Fantastic power ballad.

Still working my way thru my 'haul' from a couple weeks ago before I even START creating another 'list', let alone listening to new (to me) stuff.

You need to get this album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2012, 05:01:15 AM
EDGUY mainman Tobias Sammet is preparing to enter VOX Klangstudio in Bendestorf, Germany with producer Sascha Paeth (KAMELOT, EDGUY, EPICA, RHAPSODY) to begin recording the new album from Sammet's AVANTASIA project for a spring 2013 release. The CD will once again be a rock opera based on a conceptual story very similar to the early AVANTASIA albums and will feature "a legion of guest instrumentalists and vocalists," according to a press release.

Commented Sammet: "The new material sounds very fresh and new and yet you can hear the old classic AVANTASIA vibe on the album. It will be an enchanting fairytale again, far away from any musical trends.

"Our latest album was our most successful album of all time, but I guess it was only that successful because it came from the heart. That's the only proven remedy I wanna stick to.

"I tried to lay down any thought of expectations, but instead just do a completely unseasonable, unfashionable and even unreasonable piece of art.

"Anyway, I feel at home when I listen to those melodies, choirs and guitars.

"I just talked to [former HELLOWEEN and current UNISONIC singer] Michi Kiske and he said that the stuff reminds him a lot of the old classic AVANTASIA material in the good old 'Keeper' style. As a fan, now that sounds even exciting to me, so the circle shuts.

"For myself, it's hard to describe the material in words. I had, and have, so many ideas that I had to restrain myself a little. Otherwise, the album would become too long, and I'm trying not to do a double album this time. However, I am really excited, and I just thought I'd let you know how excited I am."


 :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 25, 2012, 06:27:36 AM
Sounds good to me. Now if he only put that much passion & effort into Edguy these days.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2012, 06:41:08 AM
Agreed.


Just listened to the new Ten album and it didn't bowl me over.  The first three songs were killer and I thought I was in for a cracker of an album, but the middle 5 or so songs left me pretty bored.  There were a couple of songs at the end which got my attention going again though.  Will give it a few more spins to see how it goes.  The first song is absolutely incredible though.


Listening to Shadowman and The Ladder which I also got in the mail today.  Great straightforward melodic rock/aor.  Great voice, and waiting still on my FM cd.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 25, 2012, 06:41:47 AM
"Keeper style"  :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 25, 2012, 09:28:32 AM
Smile in my pants for Avantasia.

Kade... the Ten album?  Is that Stormwarning, or do they have a newer one from this year (too lazy to look it up right now)?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 25, 2012, 10:22:26 AM
Smile in my pants for Avantasia.

Kade... the Ten album?  Is that Stormwarning, or do they have a newer one from this year (too lazy to look it up right now)?

Jumping in while Kade is presumably in bed!  ;D

I think he means Heresy & Creed, another new one, recorded at the same time as Stormwarning iirc. Not got this one yet but I'm guessing it sounds like Ten. Maybe if they'd just done one album with the best tracks from the two?

The game I look forward to is the "spot where I borrowed this song from?" game Gary Hughes usually has on his albums.

I do like Ten, mainly the pre Babylon stuff. They are a bit Axel Rudi Pell-like though- no surprises on their albums.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2012, 04:16:48 PM
Yeah, it's Heresy and Creed.  Although I'm pretty sure it wasn't receorded at the same time as Stormwarning as this has a bit of a lineup change.  The new guitarist is very shreddy for Ten but fits really well.

Lowdz, I get what you mean about Gary wearing his influences on his sleeve, but from what I heard on this one, there doesn't seem too much of that, besides the single Gunrunning.  It's also quite different from their regular stuff too as Gary likes to recycle his own ideas a bit too.  So it's Ten, but it sounds a bit different for them.  Check it out Lowdz, I'd like to hear your thoughts.

Chad, it was released like a week ago.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 26, 2012, 04:30:29 AM
According to someone at MR.com the song I Need You Now is a ringer for Lady Antebellum's Another Rainy Day. Don't know either song so can't comment.

The biggest culprit for me was Spellbound's Eclipse "borrowing" from Yngwie's Crystal Ball verse. Good song though.  Oh, and his song on the Bob Catley Middle Earth album which uses Baba O'Reilly.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2012, 04:44:23 AM
I will have to go back and check those ones.  For me here's a list of what I've noticed;

Spellbound - Still of the Night (Whitesnake)(intro and verse)
Evermore - Over the Hills and Far Away (Gary Moore)(whole thing)
Endless Symphony - Head of Heals (Tears for Fears)(intro)
Centre of My Universe - Enter Sandman (intro)

From Gary Hughes album Veritas;

I Pray For You - Rebel Yell (Billy Idol) (verse)
I Know it's Time - Young Turks (Rod Stewart) (chorus)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2012, 04:47:10 AM
Oh, plus Bob Catley's Dreams rips off Bon Jovis Runaway.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 26, 2012, 05:58:28 AM
Never noticed some of those before (not being a TFF fan) but yeah, they are there all right. Even has the same piano sound. And knicking Enter Sandman and expecting to get away with it takes balls.

The Gary Moore was a bit blatant too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2012, 06:04:35 AM
Check the Tears For Fears one;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYx8IHJ9dWE
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 26, 2012, 08:03:22 AM
Check the Tears For Fears one;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYx8IHJ9dWE

Yeah I did. Naughty!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2012, 02:22:13 PM
Listening to some FM which I got in the mail.  Indiscreet is a wonderful light AOR album, really enjoying it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 26, 2012, 02:45:43 PM
Listening to some FM which I got in the mail.  Indiscreet is a wonderful light AOR album, really enjoying it.

Yeah, agreed. Probably prefer it now than back in the day as it didn't have enough guitars for me then. Good songs, well performed though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2012, 02:49:33 PM
That's one thing I instantly noticed, but it's not a big deal, the songs have a nice balance and great atmosphere.  Tough it Out is good too, more guitars but I think this early on I prefer the debut.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 26, 2012, 02:56:55 PM
That's one thing I instantly noticed, but it's not a big deal, the songs have a nice balance and great atmosphere.  Tough it Out is good too, more guitars but I think this early on I prefer the debut.

Got a couple of the singles from TIO- Bad Luck was pretty good- but don't think I ever got the album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2012, 03:00:26 PM
Bad Luck is probably the best song on there I'd say.

Also, speaking of Steve Overland, the album Sacred by The Ladder is pretty killer.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2012, 05:39:57 AM
Just got my copy of Mood Swings in the mail.  Also contains the EP, If There Was A Time, which has a few live tracks.  Although they have put that one song on the same cd twice, weird.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 29, 2012, 05:42:08 AM
Just got my copy of Mood Swings in the mail.  Also contains the EP, If There Was A Time, which has a few live tracks.  Although they have put that one song on the same cd twice, weird.

Enjoy.  I was just listening to Human Nature yesterday.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2012, 05:44:17 AM
No Justice is absolutely incredible.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 29, 2012, 06:16:43 AM
No Justice is absolutely incredible.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 29, 2012, 06:28:49 AM
No Justice is absolutely incredible.
I'm sorry, what band are we talking about?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 29, 2012, 06:35:55 AM
That would be Harem Scarem. Great band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 29, 2012, 07:04:28 AM
No Justice is absolutely incredible.

I waffle between this and Saviour's Never Cry as my fave.  Had Enough is a fantastic closer too!  Man, what a great album.  A+ start to finish.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 29, 2012, 10:55:58 AM
No Justice is absolutely incredible.

I waffle between this and Saviour's Never Cry as my fave.  Had Enough is a fantastic closer too!  Man, what a great album.  A+ start to finish.

Almost a perfect album. There's just that verse bit in Change Comes Around- the chukka chukka "This is my rollercoaster" bit that I just detest. Spoils a great song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 29, 2012, 11:13:53 AM
No Justice is absolutely incredible.

I waffle between this and Saviour's Never Cry as my fave.  Had Enough is a fantastic closer too!  Man, what a great album.  A+ start to finish.

Almost a perfect album. There's just that verse bit in Change Comes Around- the chukka chukka "This is my rollercoaster" bit that I just detest. Spoils a great song.

I kinda like that scratchy riff.

Listening to Voice of Reason right now.  It's as bad as I remembered it to be.  What a disappointment after Mood Swings.  No wonder I bailed on them until getting caught up on their post VoR output last year.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 29, 2012, 04:52:28 PM
No Justice is absolutely incredible.

I waffle between this and Saviour's Never Cry as my fave.  Had Enough is a fantastic closer too!  Man, what a great album.  A+ start to finish.

Almost a perfect album. There's just that verse bit in Change Comes Around- the chukka chukka "This is my rollercoaster" bit that I just detest. Spoils a great song.

I kinda like that scratchy riff.

Listening to Voice of Reason right now.  It's as bad as I remembered it to be.  What a disappointment after Mood Swings.  No wonder I bailed on them until getting caught up on their post VoR output last year.

First album I heard by them was Weight Of The World- so I missed all that "Mood Swings is awesome" hype. It is awesome, but I don't have those special feelings attached to it like other albums from the time that I lived through. VoR is poor though. And forget the rubber years. WOTW onwards is great though. By their last album it was getting pretty samey though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2012, 04:24:03 AM
Managed to sneak a couple more spins of Mood Swings while at work today since things were a little quieter.  Really terrifc album, there's really nothing that I don't enjoy at all, and lots of variety too. 

Going back and getting out the other cd's I own; Live at the Gods, Hope and Overload.  I remember liking them but now I'm in a more focused frame of mind to really take them in.  I'm listening to Live at the Gods now.  The songs are good, but not the best performances, the vocals are pretty rough.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 30, 2012, 05:21:51 AM
Yeah, I was at the Gods that year. They were ok but not great. I didn't know any of the songs at the time.

Saw them again a couple of years or so later at Firefest and again they were only ok. Harry seemed a bit flat vocal-wise both times. He's not a great frontman either- comes across a bit stiff on stage. He's a big bloke so I guess it's a bit more difficult. In the studio he is great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2012, 05:56:18 AM
Yeah, some of the performances on Mood Swings are just stellar.

I'm actually still really enjoying his solo album Living in Yesterday, great simple songs all the way through, will probably make my top 10 of the year.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 01, 2012, 04:21:14 PM
Listening to Saviors Never Cry now. Wow, this is pretty good. A great vibe to it. I will definitely investigate further. Is Mood Swings a 2012 album? How many albums do they have?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 01, 2012, 04:39:40 PM
Listening to Saviors Never Cry now. Wow, this is pretty good. A great vibe to it. I will definitely investigate further. Is Mood Swings a 2012 album? How many albums do they have?

Mood Swings in an early 90s album. they have 12 albums, a couple of which come under the band name Rubber when they went a bit Grunge-y/Nu Metal. First album was excellent AOR, Mood Swings was second and raised the bar. Things went downhill for a while then Weight Of The World in the early 00s got them back on track. Higher and Overload followed and were excellent, then they stagnated a bit over the next couple- though they were still good albums. Then they split.

The guitarist, Pete Lesperance, released an excellent album a few years ago called Down In It that's worth checking out.

History lesson over!  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 01, 2012, 04:41:58 PM
OK, they sounded late 80's anyway so that all makes sense. I tried a couple more songs but they didn't quite hold up. I'll keep checking.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 01, 2012, 05:08:27 PM
Regarding Harem Scarem, Lowdz is bang on.  let's just forget everything from 1995 to 2002. Karma Cleansing/Believe is tolerable, but the rest (Voice of Reason, Big Bang Theory, Rubber and Ultra Feel)... forget about it.

Mood Swings is Top 12 on my all time list.

Hess just had a solo album, and his album under First Signal from a couple years ago is really good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 02, 2012, 03:25:57 AM
Love First Signal, really great collection of melodic rock songs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 02, 2012, 05:48:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq8M7TH2yY0

This was recommended to me and sounds pretty good in more of a melodic metal vein. Think I might have to get this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 06, 2012, 04:31:31 AM
Pretty good.  They actually remind me of a band that I had forgotten about that deserve to be in this thread, Evidence One;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1mEvBt0jZo

The album The Sky is the Limit is excellent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: r0cken on November 06, 2012, 08:13:51 AM
How do you like this one? The band is called "Highway 9", they had just one album in 2002. I think it's pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MizEnPhU7Ac (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MizEnPhU7Ac)


Ten years before that, the same guys released an album under the name Mr. Reality. Very nice acoustic AOR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uTo0QlY-o8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uTo0QlY-o8)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 07, 2012, 03:24:58 AM
That was ok r0cken but nothing that excites me tbh. A bit "jangly" sounding to me. Nice enough I suppose.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2012, 06:58:45 AM
LIONVILLE RETURN WITH LIONVILLE "II" RELEASE:

Lionville is back! The band's winning combination of tight song writing, stellar musical performances recorded by a gifted cast of experienced studio cats and upcoming talents, crowned by impressive lead vocals and an album mix paying attention to all the significant little details, made "Lionville" one of 2011's most favorite AOR records. Fans and reviewers alike enjoyed the catchy pure AOR sound and among others the album reached # 3 on melodicrock.com's "Best Debut Album Of 2011" rundown, it also landed at # 20 on the site's "Best Album Of The Year" charts and the ballad "The World Without Your Love", written by Richard Marx, Bruce Gaitsch and Amy Sky, reached # 11 on the "Best Ballad" listing.

Soon after the release of last year's self-titled debut album (Avenue 11100030) main songwriter, guitarist and vocalist Stefano Lionetti, started working on new material for the follow-up to the band's very well received first effort. Together with label owner and executive producer Gregor Klee, Stefano discussed the key ingredients for their next co-operation and both agreed that the record should be a musical continuation of the debut with an occasional interesting twist here and there. Lionville's sophomore album "II" is another slice of high class AOR with a touch of Westcoast and Melodic Rock, with most of the top flight musicians performing on the debut returning to the recording studio to lay down their tracks. During the spring and summer of 2012 the recordings took place in various studios in Italy, Sweden and the USA, before the mixing and the mastering were completed by Alessandro Del Vecchio in his newly built Ivory Tears Studios close to Milan, Italy.

Lars Sfsund (Work Of Art) shows again that he is one of the most versatile and talented lead and backing vocalists of our time, also Stefano delivers a very solid performance on lead vocals in addition to his melodic guitar playing and an occasional contribution on the keyboards. The song "Higher", one of the album's many highlights presents one of the year's best vocal arrangements and performances on a Rock song sees the two young European singers unite with one of the AOR and Westcoast genre's American legends, the two-time Grammy award winning Bill Champlin (formerly of Chicago) with his signature vocals. The trio trades off the lead vocals and Bill's wife Tamara Champlin joins them on backing vocals.

The excellent band playing on all tracks was also the Lionville live band for the celebrated Firefest performance in October 2012, the line-up includes the Italian musicians Mario Percudani (Hungryheart, Issa, Shining Line, Mitch Malloy), Anna Portalupi (Hardline, Mitch Malloy, Issa, Steve Lukather), Alessandro Mori (Mitch Malloy, Moonstone Project) as well as producer and keyboarder Alessandro Del Vecchio (Edge Of Forever, Hardline, Issa, Mitch Malloy). On the album they are joined by guitarist Bruce Gaitsch (Richard Marx, Chicago) on seven songs, as well as guest guitar players Robert Sll (Work Of Art, W.E.T.), Sven Larsson (Street Talk) and Peter Friestedt (Williams Friestedt, L.A. Project). The invitees are completed by drummer Herman Furin (Work Of Art) on percussions and Italian saxophone luminary Joe La Viola.
Stefano's song writing partners are again Pierpaolo "Zorro" Monti (Shining Line, Charming Grace), Robert Sll, Lars Sfsund and Alessandro Del Vecchio and a new co-operation was started with Miqael Persson (Eclipse, Toby Hitchcock, Giant). The only song originating from outside writers is a cover version of Boy Meets Girl's catchy 80s Pop Rock gem "Waiting For A Star To Fall", written by George Merrill and Shannon Rubicam.

Lionville "II" turns out to be a more mature and homogenous sounding affair than the bands debut, paying even more attention to the musical arrangements and production details resulting in a very well balanced mix that pays attention to all the precious little details. In the case of Lionville "II" the much-cited term "Labour Of Love" is certainly appropriate as everyone involved gave their best from start to finish to deliver one of the AOR highlights of 2012.
Released: November 30
Track Listing: 1) All We Need 2) The Only Way Is Up 3) Another Day 4) Higher 5) No Turning Back 6) All This Time 7) Next To Me 8) Waiting For A Star To Fall 9) Don't Walk Away 10) One In A Million 11) Shining Over Me 12) Open Your Heart.

Produced, mixed and mastered by Alessandro Del Vecchio at Ivorytears Music Works Studio - Somma Lombardo, Italy. All songs arranged by Stefano Lionetti & Alessandro Del Vecchio except "All This Time" arranged by Robert Sll.

Lionville is: Stefano Lionetti: Lead & backing vocals, electric & acoustic guitars, keyboards With: Lars Sfsund: Lead & backing vocals, Alessandro Del Vecchio: Keyboards & backing vocals, Bruce Gaitsch: Electric & acoustic guitars, Mario Percudani: Electric guitars, Anna Portalupi: Bass, Alessandro Mori: Drums & percussion
Very Special Guests: Bill Champlin: Lead & backing vocals on "Higher", Tamara Champlin: Backing vocals on "Higher", Robert Sll: Guitars & keyboards on "All This Time", Sven Larsson: Guitars on "One In A Million", Peter Friestedt: Guitars on "Another Day", Joe La Viola: Saxophone on "Waiting For A Star To Fall", Herman Furin: Percussions on "Open Your Heart".
WebLink: www.avenue-of-allies.com.

(https://www.melodicrock.com/lionville-2.jpg)

Quick release date, looking forward to it.  The first album was amazing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 07, 2012, 11:35:23 AM
Enjoyed the first one. I'm a big fan of Alessandro Del Vecchio. Saw him last year with Eden's Curse and kept wondering why he wasn't the lead vocalist- he was so much better than Michael Eden.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2012, 04:22:36 PM
Yeah, the first one got plenty of spins from me also.  Yeah, he is a terrific vocalist, talented guy all round.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2012, 04:28:04 PM
With all the Masterplan talk around here lately, I've gotten back into Jorn's older stuff.  Actually pulled out this;

(https://cdn.tradebit.org/usr/mp3-album/pub/9002/423/423425/42342511.jpg)

Best of Ralph Santolla's melodic rock band, which I've had for years but never really paid much attention to it.  Jorn only features on one album by them where six songs are represented here.  Jorn features on Hourglass.  I brought a digital version but have never been able to track down a pshyical copy, really good stuff;

(https://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7863/milleniumhourglass300x3.jpg)

Spinning Worldchanger right now from his solo band.  It's a shame Jorn doesn't produce quality quite like this anymore.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2012, 04:29:02 PM
Stop pointing out albums I want to listen too!!!

Kade, I'll get this as soon as you tell me how you liked Red Circuit!  :p

Also, did your Harem Scarem arrive yet?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2012, 04:36:00 PM
Ahhh, I forgot about Red Circuit.  I might just bite the bullet and order it.  :P

Still waiting on Harem Scarem, should arrive within the next day or so.  Looking forward to it, as Mood Swings is getting repeated listens from me lately.  Love the dynamic production of these sorts of cd's back in the day.  Not compressed, full sound and just sounds incredible pumped through the car stereo.  Seriously one of the best albums I've heard in a long time, and probably would be in my top 100 already.

Still waiting on Jimi Jamison too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 12, 2012, 09:16:34 PM
With all the Masterplan talk around here lately, I've gotten back into Jorn's older stuff. 

You left out The Snakes - Once Bitten. :biggrin: It's like the lost Whitesnake album! :lol

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2012, 03:32:59 AM
With all the Masterplan talk around here lately, I've gotten back into Jorn's older stuff. 

You left out The Snakes - Once Bitten. :biggrin: It's like the lost Whitesnake album! :lol

I'm pretty sure this is the only Jorn release I haven't heard.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2012, 03:40:18 AM
Michael Kiske (UNISONIC, ex-HELLOWEEN) has agreed to record a third PLACE VENDME album. His UNISONIC bandmate Dennis Ward will once again produce the CD, which will be tracked this winter for a tentative late summer/early fall 2013 release via Frontiers Records.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=182141

 :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2012, 03:48:21 AM
With all the Masterplan talk around here lately, I've gotten back into Jorn's older stuff. 

You left out The Snakes - Once Bitten. :biggrin: It's like the lost Whitesnake album! :lol

I'm pretty sure this is the only Jorn release I haven't heard.

It's actually the only Jorn release I've liked, aside from Unlocking the Past, which doesn't count so much since it's covers.
If you're a fan of classic Whitesnake, definitely check it out. They also have a live album where they do old Whitesnake songs, and most of the time you forget that it's not Coverdale.  :eek
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2012, 03:53:36 AM
I should definitely check that out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 13, 2012, 02:55:53 PM
I played the 1st Millenium album the other day- love it. Singer is J Todd Plant rather than Jorn.

I've got the 2nd album as well but don't remember much about it. not heard any of the Millenium/Jorn tracks but I imagine he would fit right in.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 13, 2012, 10:30:05 PM
Michael Kiske (UNISONIC, ex-HELLOWEEN) has agreed to record a third PLACE VENDME album. His UNISONIC bandmate Dennis Ward will once again produce the CD, which will be tracked this winter for a tentative late summer/early fall 2013 release via Frontiers Records.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=182141

 :metal :metal :metal


Nice to see Michael Kiske active in the hard rock/metal scene the last few years.  I was getting the impression from interviews over the years that he wanted nothing to do with the genre.  Wolf, do you think Kiske or Hansen will ever show up on a future Helloween disc in some guest capacity?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2012, 03:59:29 AM
Kiske has said many times he is no longer into metal.  I think we are actually treated with what he has been doing with PV and Unisonic, but that's as heavy as it will get.

In regards to Kiske or Hansen featuring on a Helloween disc, I hope not.  Helloween are a completely different band to what they were when these guys were in the band.  Plus, I usually don't like guests on bands albums, and I wasn't thrilled with Kiske's appearance on Gamma Ray's To The Metal.  Helloween don't need any guest appearances, they are killing it as they are and seriously can't wait for the new disc.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2012, 04:27:57 AM
Good news for Jingle;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=182198

Following the band's successful reunion show at Firefest 2011, Frontiers Records has announced the signing of CONEY HATCH to a a worldwide deal. The band's new studio album will be released in 2013.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 14, 2012, 05:26:10 AM
aaahhhh... was never a big Coney Hatch fan.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 14, 2012, 05:59:58 AM
aaahhhh... was never a big Coney Hatch fan.

Love CH. Don't Say Make Me is one of my favourite songs ever. Some filler on each album and 3 wasn't that great. And why did they ever let the bass player sing? But the great outweighs the not-so-great for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 14, 2012, 06:55:30 AM
I actually saw them open for Iron Maiden in 1983! Bought the first album to familiarize myself with them. I don't remember much about it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 14, 2012, 01:22:45 PM
I think Coney Hatch is just a great straight up old school hard rock band.  Interested to hear what they will release.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2012, 03:35:48 PM
aaahhhh... was never a big Coney Hatch fan.

I thought that was one band you speak highly of.......maybe it was Lowdz.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 14, 2012, 03:41:31 PM
wadn't me
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2012, 03:57:17 PM
Cool.

Just got Jimi Jamison last night, not bad, but not as spectacular as Toby Hitchcock.  Sounds pretty safe and actually it seems like Erik just put some songs together with not as much thought as Toby.  The style fits perfectly for Jimi, but just seems a little generic and predictable in some of the songwriting.  Although I've only listened to it once, so I need to repeat it a few times.

And Chad, will play Red Circuit tonight, promise. (Unless my Harem Scarem cd's show up in the mail today.)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 14, 2012, 10:01:36 PM
I will have to check out this Toby Hitchcock album. I like the new Jimi Jamison album a lot. I agree that it's a bit safe, although it's still a really solid album. It's maybe a little generic in style, but the songwriting is strong enough that I wouldn't call it a generic album.

My only criticism is that it's a little too "poppy" for what I would have hoped for. I like melodic rock with a bit of a heavier edge.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2012, 04:35:34 AM
I will have to check out this Toby Hitchcock album. I like the new Jimi Jamison album a lot. I agree that it's a bit safe, although it's still a really solid album. It's maybe a little generic in style, but the songwriting is strong enough that I wouldn't call it a generic album.

My only criticism is that it's a little too "poppy" for what I would have hoped for. I like melodic rock with a bit of a heavier edge.

I'm listening to it again right now and I am enjoying it quite a bit.  You need to hear the Tby Hitchcock album ASAP!!

NP: The Great Unknown.  Great chorus.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2012, 04:37:40 AM
Just listened to Harem Scarems debut.  :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2012, 04:43:21 AM
Woot!  Ok, I've got something to say.  Honestly, I wouldn't steer you wrong, would I?  It's definitely not hard to love.  How long until you do it all over again?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 16, 2012, 01:48:39 PM
I see what you did there  ;)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2012, 01:50:25 PM
:footloose:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 16, 2012, 05:59:26 PM
I only have Mood Swings.  Is the debut just as good?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2012, 06:03:33 PM
Softer, but yes ... It is.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 17, 2012, 02:34:53 AM
It's more typical 80s sounding AOR but a very good album nonetheless.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2012, 03:10:28 AM
Woot!  Ok, I've got something to say.  Honestly, I wouldn't steer you wrong, would I?  It's definitely not hard to love.  How long until you do it all over again?

I have listened to it about three times because it's so good after every listen it's like a distant memory.  With a little love from me, I believe this band could be one of my favourites.  The love reaction I am having with this band is just like I planned.  I'm sure other bands will get jealous of me listening to them, but hey, change comes around and there is really no justice in this world for this band not being bigger than they were.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 18, 2012, 03:14:20 AM
I go the Toby Hitchcock album. I haven't listened through the whole thing yet, but the few songs I heard I enjoyed. Gonna give it a good few listens when I get the chance.
The production is balls though, like a lot of newer melodic rock albums seem to be unfortunately, which made it harder to listen to. I guess they have trouble making these albums sound good for cheap?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2012, 03:53:47 AM
I go the Toby Hitchcock album. I haven't listened through the whole thing yet, but the few songs I heard I enjoyed. Gonna give it a good few listens when I get the chance.
The production is balls though, like a lot of newer melodic rock albums seem to be unfortunately, which made it harder to listen to. I guess they have trouble making these albums sound good for cheap?

I thought the production was quite fantastic IMO.  Saying that, I'm not that picky on production.  What's so negative about the produciton in your opinion?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 18, 2012, 04:24:49 AM
I go the Toby Hitchcock album. I haven't listened through the whole thing yet, but the few songs I heard I enjoyed. Gonna give it a good few listens when I get the chance.
The production is balls though, like a lot of newer melodic rock albums seem to be unfortunately, which made it harder to listen to. I guess they have trouble making these albums sound good for cheap?

I thought the production was quite fantastic IMO.  Saying that, I'm not that picky on production.  What's so negative about the produciton in your opinion?

Just my opinion of course, but the guitars are tinny and shrill, the bass is boomy but without clarity, and the drums have no presence or space, and it's a bit too compressed for my liking. It doesn't sound very balanced to me.
It's not terrible, but it sounds like a low budget album, and it will take some getting used to. Also, I'm quite picky with production. It can be make or break for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 18, 2012, 04:49:23 AM
I agree with Kade on Mercury's Down.  I thought it was quite strong production wise.  But I do agree that there are a lot in this genre that feel a little weaker than they ought to from a shallow production effort.

Was just noticing that this entire thread started with a post about Mercury's Down just over a year ago, and you finally got around to it now?  Better late than never.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 18, 2012, 05:10:55 AM
As much as I love the melodic rock genre, I find a lot of the new stuff pretty generic with subpar production, so I don't check out a lot of the suggestions unless there's something that draws me to it, like a name I recognize (as with the Jimi Jamison album).
I checked out Bleed and Scream after it was highly reviewed here, and that did nothing at all for me. My taste in music is different to almost everyone here, so I'm not usually quick to jump on a DTF recommendation.

Also keep in mind that my internet is terrible too, so I don't get to check out as much random stuff as I'd like to. I tend to prioritize the safer bets rather than risk it with "unproven" stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 18, 2012, 02:12:34 PM
I understand the criticism re production. Bands and labels aren't spending the money they did on production- but even back in the day albums sounded awful. The other problem is that alot of the Frontiers stuff is written, produced and played by the same people.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2012, 02:24:24 PM
Yeah, Frontiers stuff is usually a one or two man project.  I guess if they had the finances for outside producers, the results would be even better.

And yes, Mercury's Down was the inspiration for me making this thread.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2012, 05:14:28 PM
Listening to Harem Scarem's Believe for the first time.  I'm only half way through, but I think this is pretty good.  I really love this bands sound, even the songs which aren't up to standard are different, unique and still have great performances.  Baby With A Nail Gun is easily one of the greatest instrumentals I've ever heard.  Pete is so damn underrated.

Oh, and the site I order cd's from had a sale so I also ordered Voice of Reason, Big Bang Theory and Rubber, just for the hell of it.  They were only $11.  Chad, don't worry, I will not hold you responsible if I don't enjoy these ones.  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 18, 2012, 05:41:55 PM
I'll shart myself if you enjoy any of those. Maybe a few songs are tolerable, but your $11 would've been better spent elsewhere. Red Circuit for instance.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2012, 06:01:16 PM
Ah!  Why do I keep forgetting about that band?!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 27, 2012, 04:13:14 AM
From melodic rock;

TIME TO GET W.E.T. AGAIN SOON:

The brand new eagerly awaited sophomore W.E.T. album Rise Up is done! It is due for release via Frontiers Records in February and promises to be another prime slice of melodic hard rock with Jeff Scott Soto stating: "I think the contrast is great and shows more growth as a 'band'" and as for songs "...all I know is we love them all."
I've got 4 tracks form the album to talk about and believe me - these are something very special indeed. It looks like the band have gone out of their way to make sure the classic debut has a companion.

Learn To Live Again - An uptempo melodic rocker with a driving verse and an explosive, harmony filled chorus that equals anything from the debut, just with heavier riffs! Erik throws in a few vocal lines and the guitar solo is fantastic. Harmonies everywhere.
Rise Up - A darker and moodier melodic hard rocker that flows along until a hard edge riff jumps in before a punchy but simple chorus. Lots of keyboards deep in the mix and lots of musical layers to absorb.
Walk Away - Beyond fantastic. A classic song from the first listen. A heavy and bombastic intro and hard riffing guitars and a thumping drum sound before a chorus so unbelievably catchy commercial Journey style chorus kicks in.
Love Heals - An amazing ballad that matches the quality of the debut with ease. A haunting JSS vocal and lead guitar fill as the song builds to a dynamite, multi-layered emotional chorus. Another classic for fans of the debut and JSS!

Lots to look forward to.....stay tuned for an audio preview asap!

 :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 27, 2012, 04:28:19 AM
Looking forward to that. The last JSS didn't do it for me- I know  you liked it Kade- so need a fix of awesome Jeff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 27, 2012, 04:37:26 AM
Looking forward to that. The last JSS didn't do it for me- I know  you liked it Kade- so need a fix of awesome Jeff.

Yeah mate, I thought it was tremendous, interesting you didn't take to it.  This is going to be absolutely stunning though, can't wait.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 27, 2012, 05:35:12 AM
Cool.... I'll be on the lookout for that in a couple of months.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: r0cken on November 30, 2012, 02:56:39 AM
Loving the new acoustic John Corabi album (https://www.johncorabi.com/). Five new songs and the rest are acoustic versions of his various past projects.
Four of the songs streaming here (https://soundcloud.com/rat-pak-records/sets/john-corabi-unplugged/).
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 30, 2012, 01:19:18 PM
Loving the new acoustic John Corabi album (https://www.johncorabi.com/). Five new songs and the rest are acoustic versions of his various past projects.
Four of the songs streaming here (https://soundcloud.com/rat-pak-records/sets/john-corabi-unplugged/).

I used to really like the Scream album. Not played it in years- will have to dig it out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 30, 2012, 09:37:01 PM
Havent really heard much of Scream, I should check it out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 01, 2012, 02:26:41 AM
Havent really heard much of Scream, I should check it out.

Ibought it on release because of Bruce Buillet and John Alderette from Racer X, but I'm sure they gave both albums away on their website a few years ago.

It can be found fairly easily and I'm sure it's legit to do so, as I say they gave it away a few years ago- don't want to break any rules posting the address though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: r0cken on December 01, 2012, 02:51:44 AM
Nope, the RacerX site removed the "Let it Scream" album from their site, per Corabi's request. It can still be found on Amazon and eBay, but it's rather pricey. There is an unreleased album still available for free on their site.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2012, 03:34:00 AM
Havent really heard much of Scream, I should check it out.

Ibought it on release because of Bruce Buillet and John Alderette from Racer X, but I'm sure they gave both albums away on their website a few years ago.

It can be found fairly easily and I'm sure it's legit to do so, as I say they gave it away a few years ago- don't want to break any rules posting the address though.

I have always wanted to check out more from Bruce Buillet, such an amazing guitarist.  Is this Scream album you speak of a Corabi solo album or something?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 02, 2012, 04:12:46 AM
Havent really heard much of Scream, I should check it out.

Ibought it on release because of Bruce Buillet and John Alderette from Racer X, but I'm sure they gave both albums away on their website a few years ago.

It can be found fairly easily and I'm sure it's legit to do so, as I say they gave it away a few years ago- don't want to break any rules posting the address though.

I have always wanted to check out more from Bruce Buillet, such an amazing guitarist.  Is this Scream album you speak of a Corabi solo album or something?

It was a band effort pre him joining Motley. It's ok, enjoyable enough. Bluesy, sort of a heavier Mr Big.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2012, 03:42:42 AM
Thanks Paul, might check that out.

Also, anyone into Mob Rules, the new album is pretty damn good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 03, 2012, 05:35:13 AM
Thanks Paul, might check that out.

Also, anyone into Mob Rules, the new album is pretty damn good.

Great album. I used the opening track in lonestar's roulette last week. It scored 8 but only cos it was a lyric round and neither of us could find them on the net. He admitted it would have been a 10 any other round but due to his song length limits I couldn't use it any other round.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2012, 05:57:10 PM
Thanks Paul, might check that out.

Also, anyone into Mob Rules, the new album is pretty damn good.

Great album. I used the opening track in lonestar's roulette last week. It scored 8 but only cos it was a lyric round and neither of us could find them on the net. He admitted it would have been a 10 any other round but due to his song length limits I couldn't use it any other round.

The first track is indeed absolutely mindblowing.  Really terrific album, very underrated.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 06, 2012, 11:49:43 AM
Thanks Paul, might check that out.

Also, anyone into Mob Rules, the new album is pretty damn good.

Great album. I used the opening track in lonestar's roulette last week. It scored 8 but only cos it was a lyric round and neither of us could find them on the net. He admitted it would have been a 10 any other round but due to his song length limits I couldn't use it any other round.

The first track is indeed absolutely mindblowing.  Really terrific album, very underrated.

Wow, I just checked out Cannibal Nation. Holy Shit, this is a terrific album. The Iron Maiden influence shows right through :tup
I've heard it through twice now, and it may be a late entry into this year's Top 10.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2012, 07:04:23 PM
Yeah, it's getting plenty of spins from me too, really good metal.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 09, 2012, 01:51:13 PM
Hey guys, any of you fancy coming over t o the UK for next year's Firefest?

Harem Scarem performing Mood Swings in it's entirety on Friday. And the Magnificent opening up the show.

Hardline headlining Saturday, plus Treat focusing on  Coup de Grace.

Sunday line up to come.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2012, 02:58:35 AM
Hey guys, any of you fancy coming over t o the UK for next year's Firefest?

Harem Scarem performing Mood Swings in it's entirety on Friday. And the Magnificent opening up the show.

Hardline headlining Saturday, plus Treat focusing on  Coup de Grace.

Sunday line up to come.

You just made me blow my load four times.  Harem Scarem back together?!  The Magnificent album is amazing, love Hardline of course and Coup de Grace was one of my top albums of that year, holy crap. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2012, 03:18:37 AM
HAREM SCAREM ARE COMING BACK!:
Harem Scarem have confirmed they are coming back in 2013, which is just sensational news for fans of the band. There is one change in the line-up however! Harry Hess tells me that bass player Barry Donaghy has left the music business. His replacement will be none other than the band's original drummer (and long time backing vocalist) Darren Smith!
The band will headline the Friday night of the Firefest 10th Anniversary show in the UK October 18, but will also play some other European shows around the same time. Harry didn't rule out a local Canadian warm up show or two either.

On a recording front, the band has already started their next project - to celebrate the 20th Anniversary of the album, the band will re-record their classic Mood Swings release - which will come out in the first half of 2013 complete with 3 bonus tracks - new songs written, as Harry puts it "...in the spirit of that time...".
Stay tuned for further updates!


Not sure about a re-recording but hell, I'll take it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2012, 03:19:29 AM
Hey guys, any of you fancy coming over t o the UK for next year's Firefest?

Harem Scarem performing Mood Swings in it's entirety on Friday. And the Magnificent opening up the show.

Hardline headlining Saturday, plus Treat focusing on  Coup de Grace.

Sunday line up to come.

(https://www.melodicrock.com/FF-2013-Poster.jpg)

Damn!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2012, 05:27:14 AM
HOLY SHIT!!

https://www.melodicrock.com/

 :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 10, 2012, 05:37:47 AM
Wow, Work of Art, Eclipse, Eden's Curse.  Seriously, this just might make me think about a European vacation with Mrs.Jingle.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2012, 05:50:32 AM
Wow, Work of Art, Eclipse, Eden's Curse.  Seriously, this just might make me think about a European vacation with Mrs.Jingle.

You missed the most exciting part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LhTMPgZ-44&feature=g-high-u

https://www.melodicrock.com/
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 10, 2012, 06:12:12 AM
Cool
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wkiml on December 10, 2012, 10:56:06 AM
Shooting Star??? same band as the late 70's early 80's

Hang On For Your Life was a huge go to album for me back then
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2012, 02:06:53 PM
Shooting Star??

Hang On For Your Life was a huge go to album for me back then
Amen, brother! I have it on CD and still listen to it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 10, 2012, 04:01:20 PM
Shooting Star??

Hang On For Your Life was a huge go to album for me back then
Amen, brother! I have it on CD and still listen to it.

No gig photos TAC? Your slipping!  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2012, 03:31:38 AM
I have listened to the new WET sample about 20 times and have formed my opinion.  After about 10 times it really started to click.  The first few times I just thought it was good but the more I hear it, the more I love it.

Now, my concern is that it doesn't really sound like WET, it sounds like Eclipse.  From what we are hearing so far, this could have sat in the middle of Bleed and Scream no problem.  Some of the chord progressions are the same as a lot of songs on that album too.  I like Erik, but his songwriting doesn't have much variation, take the new Jimi Jamison. 

I personally wanted more Robert Sall on this, his songwriting IMO is more varied and mature than Erik's and I hope he is utilised properly this time around.  I mean, he only contributed to about 5 or 6 songs on the debut and played guitar on one song.  His solos are less distinct than Magnus' but IMO, better structured, flashy and at times melodic. 

So, the new sample is amazing, but safe, and hopefully Robert is utilised a lot more.  I also hope JSS isn't pushed to the top of his range for a lot of the time like he was on the debut.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 11, 2012, 05:28:27 AM
I thought the same with the clip. Erik certainly has a style and is instantly recognisable, but after several recent releases it's starting to sound very same-y. Still, it's just one clip. Let's see what the rest of the album has to offer.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2012, 05:32:51 AM
I thought the same with the clip. Erik certainly has a style and is instantly recognisable, but after several recent releases it's starting to sound very same-y. Still, it's just one clip. Let's see what the rest of the album has to offer.

Yeah, I'm glad you could see what I'm getting at.  I'm definitely looking forward to what we have in store here, and it's only a minute sample and the song is still amazing.  I just want a bit more variety.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Pelata on December 11, 2012, 06:18:38 AM
Anyone ever heard of Brett Walker? He's a songwriter/producer guy who co-wrote some hits for AOR bands in the 90s (most noteworthy for Alias, the song "Waiting For Love"). He also released a solo album in Europe/Scandinavia in 1994 called 'Nevertheless'. It's a strong, very melodic rock record...sort of like a blend of 'Cuts Like A Knife' era Bryan Adams and the first 2 Richard Marx albums. Jon Cain from Journey co-writes and produces a couple tracks and his brother, Mugs Cain, plays drums.

Anyway, Divebomb Records has remastered and reissued it and it's coming out in January. It will also contain an exclusive bonus track, remixed by Brett himself. The whole package was remastered by Jamie King (Between The Buried And Me) at The Basement Studios.

Check the song "More Than A Memory" here:

https://soundcloud.com/divebombrecords/brett-walker-more-than-a (https://soundcloud.com/divebombrecords/brett-walker-more-than-a)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 11, 2012, 06:20:00 AM
Shooting Star??

Hang On For Your Life was a huge go to album for me back then
Amen, brother! I have it on CD and still listen to it.

No gig photos TAC? Your slipping!  ;D
Of Shooting Star?? Jeesh, I'm not THAT old!! :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2012, 03:53:33 AM
Anyone ever heard of Brett Walker? He's a songwriter/producer guy who co-wrote some hits for AOR bands in the 90s (most noteworthy for Alias, the song "Waiting For Love"). He also released a solo album in Europe/Scandinavia in 1994 called 'Nevertheless'. It's a strong, very melodic rock record...sort of like a blend of 'Cuts Like A Knife' era Bryan Adams and the first 2 Richard Marx albums. Jon Cain from Journey co-writes and produces a couple tracks and his brother, Mugs Cain, plays drums.

Anyway, Divebomb Records has remastered and reissued it and it's coming out in January. It will also contain an exclusive bonus track, remixed by Brett himself. The whole package was remastered by Jamie King (Between The Buried And Me) at The Basement Studios.

Check the song "More Than A Memory" here:

https://soundcloud.com/divebombrecords/brett-walker-more-than-a (https://soundcloud.com/divebombrecords/brett-walker-more-than-a)

This is pretty damn good, I might check this out, right up my alley.  His voice reminds me of Mark Free, good find, cheers.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2012, 04:38:12 AM
Damn, just listening to the new Yngwie and this is the first Yngwie release that is doing absolutely nothing for me.  Production is shit, drum machine sound like ass and hearing Yngwie on a song or two throughout the years is fine but here, he should not be singing himself.  And I've only listened to 4 songs!!  Awful.  :(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 20, 2012, 10:53:53 AM
Won't be getting that one
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 20, 2012, 11:17:32 AM
Damn, just listening to the new Yngwie and this is the first Yngwie release that is doing absolutely nothing for me.  Production is shit, drum machine sound like ass and hearing Yngwie on a song or two throughout the years is fine but here, he should not be singing himself.  And I've only listened to 4 songs!!  Awful.  :(
Drum machine?? Really? Forget it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 20, 2012, 12:34:40 PM
It sounds like demos- it's that bad.
Yngwie needs a producer and a singer (please call JSS or JLT and get on your knees Yngwie- it's your last hope). And a drummer.  Probably a songwriter too.

I loved Yngwie, he was my idol in my teens. I grew up but unfortunately the big Swede didn't. His last essential album was Facing the Animal and that was what, 15 years ago?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 20, 2012, 01:01:30 PM
I actually thought Perpetual Flame was excellent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 20, 2012, 01:13:18 PM
I actually thought Perpetual Flame was excellent.

Each to their own TAC my friend. I'm no fan of Ripper but I don't blame him for me not liking it. Every two-bit power metal band is churning out better albums that Yngwie these days. He got left behind. I know he says he doesn't listen to other bands but he really should have done. He really needed someone to spar with but he wanted yes men and got them (or got rid of them if they disagreed with him).
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 20, 2012, 01:21:24 PM
I actually thought Perpetual Flame was excellent.

Each to their own TAC my friend. I'm no fan of Ripper but I don't blame him for me not liking it. Every two-bit power metal band is churning out better albums that Yngwie these days. He got left behind. I know he says he doesn't listen to other bands but he really should have done. He really needed someone to spar with but he wanted yes men and got them (or got rid of them if they disagreed with him).
Yes, all you say is true.
Thought certainly not groundbreaking, it was the first Yngwie I bought new in literally 15 years. I find it pretty easy on the ears.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 20, 2012, 04:02:14 PM
I'm a big Ripper fan but I dont think Yngwie and Ripper were that great of a match.  Something seemed abit off, especially live.  If Yngwie could get JSS or JLT, that would be huge.  Doubtful they would want to associate with him again though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 20, 2012, 04:37:07 PM
I'm a big Ripper fan but I dont think Yngwie and Ripper were that great of a match.  Something seemed abit off, especially live.  If Yngwie could get JSS or JLT, that would be huge.  Doubtful they would want to associate with him again though.

I thin k it's about all that will save his career from here. I don't think JSS or JLT need the hassle at this point though. Yngwie probably needs them more than they need him.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 21, 2012, 03:28:06 AM
I also thought Perpetual Flame was pretty damn good, but I will say Ripper and Yngwie were not a perfect match.  They were good, but not really meant to be.

I still hold Alchemy as his best and most unique work.  I don't really see where Yngwie can go from here.  Yes, reuniting with JSS or JLT, and even Jens and Anders would definitely save his career, but I think he is too far in a rut and I don't see him getting out of it any time soon.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 04, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
Posted in the release date thread, but Eden's Curse has a video diary up at https://www.edenscurse.com/
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2013, 04:45:49 PM
Posted in the release date thread, but Eden's Curse has a video diary up at https://www.edenscurse.com/

Just watched that last night, sounds like were in for some standard solid Eden's Curse.  Interesting to know if they have a singer yet.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 06, 2013, 04:58:03 AM
Found this in store today and picked it up on a whim;

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_eXjl4JzUt2I/THt-5Y5QvEI/AAAAAAAAABs/tMRt0L-WdBc/s1600/Dare+Out+of+the+silence.jpg)

Never heard any of their stuff before but this is some smooth, great 80's music with excellent production.  Vinny Burns on guitar doesn't hurt either.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 06, 2013, 06:30:39 AM
Found this in store today and picked it up on a whim;

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_eXjl4JzUt2I/THt-5Y5QvEI/AAAAAAAAABs/tMRt0L-WdBc/s1600/Dare+Out+of+the+silence.jpg)

Never heard any of their stuff before but this is some smooth, great 80's music with excellent production.  Vinny Burns on guitar doesn't hurt either.

Decent album. I was never a huge fan.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on January 06, 2013, 07:01:03 AM
Isn't that (Thin Lizzy's) Darren Warton's band? or am I thinking of something else?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2013, 03:41:25 AM
Isn't that (Thin Lizzy's) Darren Warton's band? or am I thinking of something else?

That's the one.  I have listened to it 3 times now, pretty damn good.  As I said, excellent production, great 80's vocals from Wharton and some good melodies.  Not the catchiest songs I've ever heard but solid and a good sound.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 07, 2013, 05:24:30 AM
Isn't that (Thin Lizzy's) Darren Warton's band? or am I thinking of something else?

That's the one.  I have listened to it 3 times now, pretty damn good.  As I said, excellent production, great 80's vocals from Wharton and some good melodies.  Not the catchiest songs I've ever heard but solid and a good sound.

They went with a more Celtic feel after this, which was pretty good but they didn't rock enough. Enjoyed them at Firefest a few years ago.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 07, 2013, 11:26:29 AM
Just seen over at Melodicrock.com that Treat are splitting this year. I was hoping for a follow up to the awesome Coup de Grace album, but not to be. The pressure of following it must have been too much!
CdG is one of the best melodic rock albums of the last 20 years for me. Up there with Danger Danger's Revolve.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2013, 04:53:16 AM
Both CdG and Revolve made me the fan of melodic rock that I am now.  I had never heard Treat before but that album just blew me away.  I agree Paul, both those albums are easily some of the greatest rock I've ever had the pleasure of discovering, and I have some fond nostalgic memories at the time I discovered both of them.

I was waiting for a follow up too, a damn shame.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2013, 03:26:57 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=184892

PRETTY MAIDS To Release 'Motherland' In March

Frontiers Records will release "Motherland", the new album from veteran Danish hard rockers PRETTY MAIDS, on March 22 in Europe and March 26 in North America.

After their successful and highly acclaimed 2010 album "Pandemonium", PRETTY MAIDS celebrated their 30th anniversary with their debut visual release, "It Comes Alive (Maid in Switzerland)", in 2012. "Pandemonium" showed the world that PRETTY MAIDS were in a creative spring again, with the band in their finest moment. The melodic approach brought a return to the "Future World" / "Red Hot And Heavy" era of the Eighties, but with an updated sound and freshness that consolidated PRETTY MAIDS as strong as ever.

In late spring 2012, the band gathered to finally write the follow-up album. Singer Ronnie Atkins states: "We knew it was going to be a tough one to follow. I remember back in the day when we had to follow-up albums like 'Future World', we tried more or less to copy the songs from the previous album to keep the same kind of balance. But this time we just wrote what came natural to us and that's what became 'Motherland'."

The band teamed up again with producer Jacob Hansen (VOLBEAT, AMARANTHE) for the new CD. Ronnie says: "Jacob was a natural choice since we had a great experience with him producing the 'Pandemonium' album. The recordings went smooth to begin with, but then we had to start touring again during the weekends and this created some stress. Though I really feel strongly about 'Motherland'. In my view, it has all the ingredients of a good PRETTY MAIDS album, maybe even more melodic than 'Pandemonium' and absolutely, as far as I'm concerned a worthy follow-up."

"Motherland" track listing:

01. Mother Of All Lies
02. To Fool A Natio
03. Confession
04. The Iceman
05. Sad To See You Suffer
06. Hooligan
07. Infinity
08. Why So Serious
09. Motherland
10. I See Ghosts
11. Bullet For You
12. Who What Where When Why
13. Wasted

The release of the new album will be preceded by the release of the single/video "Mother of All Lies", which will arrive on January 22.

PRETTY MAIDS will play numerous festivals this summer, such as Wacken Open Air and Bang Your Head!!!, followed by an extensive world tour in support of "Motherland".

PRETTY MAIDS is:

Ronnie Atkins - Vocals
Ken Hammer - Guitars
Morten Sandager - Keyboards
Allan Tschicaja - Drums
Rene Shades - Bass

(https://www.blabbermouth.net/soulflypremiere/prettymaidsmotherland.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuqCwrdojho&feature=player_embedded


The sample is amazing.  Pretty much could go anywhere on Pandemonium, but really strong again.  Love how Ronnie describes it too;

Though I really feel strongly about 'Motherland'. In my view, it has all the ingredients of a good PRETTY MAIDS album, maybe even more melodic than 'Pandemonium' and absolutely, as far as I'm concerned a worthy follow-up."
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 16, 2013, 04:07:48 AM
Looking forward to this. PM are pretty good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2013, 04:09:41 AM
What did you think of Pandemonium?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Pelata on January 16, 2013, 05:52:12 AM
Pretty Maids has never released a bad album...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on January 16, 2013, 06:06:48 AM
I have literally never bought a Pretty Maids album. I remember they had a popular video in the 80's. Is that the same singer?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 16, 2013, 07:35:16 AM
What did you think of Pandemonium?

Love it.
Just the right  balance of melody and heaviness. I was a big fan of WUTTRW but Panda kicked it's arse.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2013, 02:09:44 PM
I have literally never bought a Pretty Maids album. I remember they had a popular video in the 80's. Is that the same singer?

Yes.  Original singer and guitarist.

What did you think of Pandemonium?

Love it.
Just the right  balance of melody and heaviness. I was a big fan of WUTTRW but Panda kicked it's arse.

Yeah man, it was incredible.


Also, Apollo left Firewind.  I wasn't really a fan of their last one, but now with Apollo out I don't have much interest left in this band.  :'(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 21, 2013, 08:12:12 AM
Been a while since I posted a new find.  Richard West (Threshold) and his wife Farrah (hawt!).... League of Lights.

(https://www.leagueoflights.com/leagueoflights182d.jpg)

Their website streams one of their tracks (https://www.leagueoflights.com/music.htm), and there's more on YT.  Glynn Morgan (one-time Threhold lead singer) has a nice duet with them - https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HzFTPSnFNAA
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 21, 2013, 04:41:07 PM
Been a while since I posted a new find.  Richard West (Threshold) and his wife Farrah (hawt!).... League of Lights.

(https://www.leagueoflights.com/leagueoflights182d.jpg)

Their website streams one of their tracks (https://www.leagueoflights.com/music.htm), and there's more on YT.  Glynn Morgan (one-time Threhold lead singer) has a nice duet with them - https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HzFTPSnFNAA

That's really nice. I like her voice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2013, 06:23:35 PM
Been a while since I posted a new find.  Richard West (Threshold) and his wife Farrah (hawt!).... League of Lights.

(https://www.leagueoflights.com/leagueoflights182d.jpg)

Their website streams one of their tracks (https://www.leagueoflights.com/music.htm), and there's more on YT.  Glynn Morgan (one-time Threhold lead singer) has a nice duet with them - https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HzFTPSnFNAA

Will check this out tonight when I get home.

EDIT: That youtube song was pretty good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2013, 03:24:14 AM
This is fucking great;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZrmVdsKoqw
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2013, 04:26:09 AM
This is fucking great;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZrmVdsKoqw

Man, I've listened to this about 10 times already, this song is really incredible.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 22, 2013, 04:46:37 AM
This is fucking great;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZrmVdsKoqw

Man, I've listened to this about 10 times already, this song is really incredible.

yeah, it's good alright. Should be a stormer if this standard is kept up throughout.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 22, 2013, 05:33:37 AM
That was damn fine.  Lot of miles under the hood on those cats!!

Damn you Kade.  Pretty Maids was one of those bands that I never got in to... no reason, just never heard much by them.  Now I might have to change that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on January 22, 2013, 07:56:11 AM
I actually checked the new Pretty Maids track from the Bravewords link. I was quite excited for give them a fresh listen, but I did not care for it.

How old is the singer? He doesn't look a day over 92!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 22, 2013, 08:07:08 AM
Sounded ok, but too metal for my tastes in the genre. Kind of lost me at the chorus, I'm afraid. Not that it sounded bad at all, it's just not really my preference. :dunno:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on January 22, 2013, 01:00:27 PM
Nice!!  Much heavier then I would have expected.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 22, 2013, 03:36:49 PM
Over at Melodicrockcom a poster is reporting that Teeny from Wig Wam is the new guitarist in Jorn's band. I love Wigwam (well, the first two albums) and Teeny is a decent guitarist and can write a riff so may be good.
Checked Jorn's website and it's legit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on January 22, 2013, 05:51:34 PM
Anybody hear the second W.E.T sample? Saw it over at melodicrock. Love Heals I think it was called. I thought it was much better than the first song. Looking forward to that album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2013, 07:06:03 PM
This is fucking great;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZrmVdsKoqw

Man, I've listened to this about 10 times already, this song is really incredible.

yeah, it's good alright. Should be a stormer if this standard is kept up throughout.

Indeed, I can't wait.

That was damn fine.  Lot of miles under the hood on those cats!!

Damn you Kade.  Pretty Maids was one of those bands that I never got in to... no reason, just never heard much by them.  Now I might have to change that.

I never really got into their older stuff that much, check the last one, it's essential and the live DVD and CD they put out last year was excellent.

Sounded ok, but too metal for my tastes in the genre. Kind of lost me at the chorus, I'm afraid. Not that it sounded bad at all, it's just not really my preference. :dunno:

IMO, that's one of the best choruses I've heard for a long time.

Over at Melodicrockcom a poster is reporting that Teeny from Wig Wam is the new guitarist in Jorn's band. I love Wigwam (well, the first two albums) and Teeny is a decent guitarist and can write a riff so may be good.
Checked Jorn's website and it's legit.

Never heard WigWam myself.


Anybody hear the second W.E.T sample? Saw it over at melodicrock. Love Heals I think it was called. I thought it was much better than the first song. Looking forward to that album.

IMO it sounded pretty generic, I hope the rest of the album is better than the first two tracks or else it's not going to be anywhere near the quality of the first album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on January 22, 2013, 07:19:40 PM
Oh the first album was incredible. It was actually the album that first introduced me to the modern melodic rock scene.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2013, 03:24:52 AM
It's a classic alright, one of the best melodic rock albums in the last 5 years.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2013, 05:30:23 AM
It's a classic alright, one of the best melodic rock albums in the last 5 years.

It seems you've used this line to describe at least 7 or 8 albums.   :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2013, 01:29:12 PM
It's a classic alright, one of the best melodic rock albums in the last 5 years.

It seems you've used this line to describe at least 7 or 8 albums.   :lol

There's a least 10 I can think of actually.  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 23, 2013, 03:03:52 PM
For Wolfie. A couple of WigWam songs. I like 'em. Glam/KISS type stuff and they are great live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkxePExjp9M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SVmbgfx4p4
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2013, 04:31:13 PM
Hmm...I like a bit of glam but not a Kiss fan to be honest.  Will check them out tonight.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on January 24, 2013, 02:16:15 PM
pretty good!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 24, 2013, 04:10:52 PM
First two albums are well worth getting. They don't take themselves seriously but they can write a catchy chorus. One of the better Scandi-rock bands.
The first album was originally titled 667... The Neighbour Of The Beast, and they represented Norway in the Eurovision Song Contest but don't let that put you off! They do an excellent version of Sporty Spice's I Turn To You. A fun band. It will be interesting to see how what Teeny brings to Jorn's band. If he helps write for an album it's likely to be a return to the earlier Jorn solo material like Starfire and Worldchanger.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2013, 03:14:20 AM
The Wig Wam was pretty cool, nothing that blew my socks off but decent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2013, 03:30:51 PM
New Whitesn..., ah I mean Voodoo Circle video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4aUr7dfA8Q
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2013, 03:40:27 PM
New Whitesn..., ah I mean Voodoo Circle video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4aUr7dfA8Q

Excellent Whitesn... er Voodoo Circle song. David Readmen is all kinds of awesome. Certainly channeling old Cov here.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2013, 03:48:03 PM
Yeah I love that guy.  His solo album was especially good.  Have you got the new Pink Cream 69 yet?  I should get my copy next week.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2013, 03:57:43 PM
Yeah I love that guy.  His solo album was especially good.  Have you got the new Pink Cream 69 yet?  I should get my copy next week.

It's my birthday on sunday and requested it as a present.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2013, 04:01:34 PM
Yeah I love that guy.  His solo album was especially good.  Have you got the new Pink Cream 69 yet?  I should get my copy next week.

It's my birthday on sunday and requested it as a present.

Hopefully the album is something special.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Pelata on February 08, 2013, 06:24:48 AM
The newest Pink Cream 69 is good, albeit more of the same...much like Pretty Maids...consistent band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 08, 2013, 08:30:40 AM
The newest Pink Cream 69 is good, albeit more of the same...much like Pretty Maids...consistent band.

Only played it once so far and I liked it. Not in "Thunderdome" liked it- but good songs, great playing, phenomenal singer.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2013, 03:14:23 PM
I too just received it last night and have only listened to it once.  It was okay, but seemed a bit soft.  I think it has potential to be a grower though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 09, 2013, 08:27:43 AM
I just saw W.O.A. put up a link on their FB to a new video by W.E.T.  :biggrin:

https://vimeo.com/58562097
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2013, 03:38:55 AM
Great new video, although it's practically the same as Bleed and Scream.  :lol

The song is really really good though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 10, 2013, 03:59:28 AM
Hmm. I love Jeff's voice, and this is no exception,  but maybe I'm just getting a bit tired of the songwriting style cos it sounds like an outtake from any of the other projects Martensson has worked on in the last couple of years. I don't think the verses flow very well. Maybe it'll grow on me, and I'll certainly be giving the album plenty of chance when it arrives but maybe he's starting to spread himself a bit thin?
Jeff is a star though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2013, 04:16:35 AM
Yeah, I said that when the sample came out.  I admit it really has grown on me though, it's generic, but I love it.

I gotta say though, the samples don't sound overly promising either bar a couple of tracks, we'll have to just wait and see.  Robert Sall should be utilised more, in song writing and guitar playing.  That would give the project the edge that it looks like it may need.  He would be able to produce better songs on his own IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2013, 05:09:27 PM
Okay, I have listened to the new Pink Cream 69 about four or maybe five times now, and I gotta say, it's excellent.  I wasn't keen on the first listen but I thought it could be a grower, and it is. 

The band are just doing their thing.  They have nothing to prove here and really are not trying too hard with anything at all.  The songs are varied, well written, never overstay their welcome, nice and melodic and it really is just a great bunch of songs to listen to over and over.  Great stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 11, 2013, 04:52:24 AM
Okay, I have listened to the new Pink Cream 69 about four or maybe five times now, and I gotta say, it's excellent.  I wasn't keen on the first listen but I thought it could be a grower, and it is. 

The band are just doing their thing.  They have nothing to prove here and really are not trying too hard with anything at all.  The songs are varied, well written, never overstay their welcome, nice and melodic and it really is just a great bunch of songs to listen to over and over.  Great stuff.

Had another listen yesterday and enjoyed it. Quality songwriting. Not as heavy as my personal fave Thunderdome but certainly a good album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2013, 04:58:37 AM
Yeah, I wish it was slightly heavier too, but really loving this a lot.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Pelata on February 12, 2013, 11:39:45 AM
I'm really digging the new Pink Cream 69 now as well. At first, it was like more of the same (which for PC69 is good), but it's really opened up w/ repeated listens.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2013, 02:06:56 PM
I'm really digging the new Pink Cream 69 now as well. At first, it was like more of the same (which for PC69 is good), but it's really opened up w/ repeated listens.

Yeah, definitely a grower.  I can't even pick fav songs because they are all so good and consistent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2013, 04:23:18 PM
Been buying random albums lately online in mp3 format instead of shelling out for cd's and stumbled across this gem;

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-a8vuxNpnB7Y/TxZ379pctlI/AAAAAAAAJ3U/9Osnc62iez4/s1600/ramoshugo.jpg)

Hugo and Josh Ramos from Hardline.  This album is incredible from start to finish, great vocals, great songs and melodies and incredible guitar playing from Josh.  He shows here what a great player he is, very impressed.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2013, 02:54:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzJwE-ws9RM

Timo Tolkki has returned.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Pelata on February 27, 2013, 11:21:57 AM
Been buying random albums lately online in mp3 format instead of shelling out for cd's and stumbled across this gem;

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-a8vuxNpnB7Y/TxZ379pctlI/AAAAAAAAJ3U/9Osnc62iez4/s1600/ramoshugo.jpg)

Hugo and Josh Ramos from Hardline.  This album is incredible from start to finish, great vocals, great songs and melodies and incredible guitar playing from Josh.  He shows here what a great player he is, very impressed.

Yeah, that's a good one. Since you're grabbing random MP3 albums, you should check out Frederiksen Denander's album "Baptism By Fire"... https://www.amazon.com/Baptism-By-Fire-Frederiksen/dp/B000VB4K18/ref=sr_1_sc_3_digr?ie=UTF8&qid=1361989251&sr=8-3-spell (https://www.amazon.com/Baptism-By-Fire-Frederiksen/dp/B000VB4K18/ref=sr_1_sc_3_digr?ie=UTF8&qid=1361989251&sr=8-3-spell)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 27, 2013, 01:02:35 PM
And Shawn Pelata's own Line Of Fire albums- I guess he's too modest to plug himself!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Pelata on February 27, 2013, 01:48:38 PM
And Shawn Pelata's own Line Of Fire albums- I guess he's too modest to plug himself!

I appreciate the plug!  :hefdaddy

I plugged LOF once when I first showed up...haven't done it since.  :biggrin: I try to not be obnoxious about it, even though I'm proud of it.

We are making our debut LIVE performance at Rock Harvest II festival in Maryland on 11/9/2013  :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 27, 2013, 02:21:34 PM
I have the Denander/Frederiksen album on cd, it's fantastic.

Will check out your band too Pelata, sounds interesting.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Pelata on February 28, 2013, 08:26:58 AM
I have the Denander/Frederiksen album on cd, it's fantastic.

Will check out your band too Pelata, sounds interesting.

I appreciate that! Thanks! :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Pelata on March 01, 2013, 11:17:56 AM
Anyone going to MRF3?

https://www.melodicrock.com/

We (Line Of Fire) just got added to the Friday line up.  :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 07, 2013, 01:27:38 PM
I've heard the band Magnum mentioned quite a few times on DTF. Just bought a best of; this is an awesome band. They have to be one of the defining AOR bands for sure. The song "vigilante" can get stuck in your head for hours.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 07, 2013, 01:36:01 PM
You can't go wrong with Storyteller's Night, Wings Of Heaven and Vigilante. Some great songs on the other albums but those three are essential.
We told you so  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2013, 02:31:05 PM
Yep, those three albums are the holy trinity for Magnum, terrific albums.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2013, 05:22:48 AM
Anyone heard the new WET?

It's pretty solid, but compared to the first one, it's simple and safe and leaves me wanting more to be honest.  Great solid songs but they are more AOR and to the point with less guitar work and nothing really epic on the album.  A great collection of short catchy no nonsense songs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2013, 05:42:52 AM
New Whitesnake DVD.  The quality looks incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyo0eGhcr4g
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 13, 2013, 06:11:22 AM
Video and sound seems pretty good aside from the glows on everything. I don't like them tuning down a whole step though.  :-\
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 13, 2013, 01:56:23 PM
Anyone heard the new WET?

It's pretty solid, but compared to the first one, it's simple and safe and leaves me wanting more to be honest.  Great solid songs but they are more AOR and to the point with less guitar work and nothing really epic on the album.  A great collection of short catchy no nonsense songs.

Pretty underwhelmed. I guess I'm burned out on Martensson's songwriting. It's nice and polished but soulless. Even Jeff can't save it. Plus I'm on a Power Metal kick at the minute. Maybe I'll go back to it later.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 13, 2013, 02:01:35 PM
Video and sound seems pretty good aside from the glows on everything. I don't like them tuning down a whole step though.  :-\

The vocals are so obviously overdubbed. I won't be able to watch it, it's so off-putting. DC is the weak link really. Maybe the band should do a Queensryche and get Jorn Lande in.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2013, 03:47:58 PM
Anyone heard the new WET?

It's pretty solid, but compared to the first one, it's simple and safe and leaves me wanting more to be honest.  Great solid songs but they are more AOR and to the point with less guitar work and nothing really epic on the album.  A great collection of short catchy no nonsense songs.

Pretty underwhelmed. I guess I'm burned out on Martensson's songwriting. It's nice and polished but soulless. Even Jeff can't save it. Plus I'm on a Power Metal kick at the minute. Maybe I'll go back to it later.

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean, it's good but nothing compared to the first one, will go back to it later too.


Video and sound seems pretty good aside from the glows on everything. I don't like them tuning down a whole step though.  :-\

The vocals are so obviously overdubbed. I won't be able to watch it, it's so off-putting. DC is the weak link really. Maybe the band should do a Queensryche and get Jorn Lande in.

Yeah, that was the case when I saw them live a couple of years ago, DC was awful and ruined the concert for me.  Nevertheless the DVD looks enjoyable.

Video and sound seems pretty good aside from the glows on everything. I don't like them tuning down a whole step though.  :-\

I'd rather a band tune down and have the singer more comfortable than straining to hit higher notes. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 17, 2013, 04:18:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcguxHc4hiU

Heard this song in the local Spar shop the other day, not knowing who it was and I got a real modern day Magnum vibe from it. Not really sure why, maybe it's just me. See what you think. There's definitely a bit of Bob in the chorus. I've never liked this band before but this song is ok. Needs a little more guitar...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 18, 2013, 04:36:23 AM
Not a fan of Stereophonics at all really.  That song was okay, but nothing that would want to make me check out the album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 21, 2013, 02:33:32 PM
Ok, my newest discovery. I've been on a power metal kick lately and I stumbled across this band on Youtube.  I love this album. They say they are EPIC METAL and I guess that's fair. Quite Maiden-y with a female properly operatic trained vocalist. The songs are catchy. It's all well=played. Worth a listen.

Morning Starlett

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4qBiKeDgPQ
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2013, 03:29:21 PM
Will check it out tonight after work.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 22, 2013, 09:01:56 AM
New Pretty Maids is on Spotify. Sounds good so far. Looks like another I'll have to buy. Supposed to be economising!!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 22, 2013, 02:33:56 PM
Ok, my newest discovery. I've been on a power metal kick lately and I stumbled across this band on Youtube.  I love this album. They say they are EPIC METAL and I guess that's fair. Quite Maiden-y with a female properly operatic trained vocalist. The songs are catchy. It's all well=played. Worth a listen.

Morning Starlett

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4qBiKeDgPQ

Not bad.  The vocals are an acquired taste, but a pretty true power metal style.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 22, 2013, 02:35:41 PM
New Pretty Maids is on Spotify. Sounds good so far. Looks like another I'll have to buy. Supposed to be economising!!!

Yeah, tell me about it.  The Pretty Maids is getting some excellent reviews, can't wait til my copy arrives. 

Also, I just got the new Vega cd in the mail yesterday, and it's pretty killer.  The first album was incredible, but this is a little different, more arena rock mixed with melodic rock, but the whole album is really strong consistent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 25, 2013, 05:37:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98mD8hvKKso

Basically the same as anything on the first Revolution Renaissance album.

But hot damn, I'm in love.  :heart :hefdaddy :heart

Also, Timo's solo sounds different.  It sounds like the debated guitar solos that he apparentely didn't do from the last two RR albums.  Hmm...could he have in fact played those solos.  This sounds nothing like his old style, it instantly reminded me of those albums, interesting.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 25, 2013, 07:53:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98mD8hvKKso

Basically the same as anything on the first Revolution Renaissance album.

But hot damn, I'm in love.  :heart :hefdaddy :heart

Also, Timo's solo sounds different.  It sounds like the debated guitar solos that he apparentely didn't do from the last two RR albums.  Hmm...could he have in fact played those solos.  This sounds nothing like his old style, it instantly reminded me of those albums, interesting.

you can't have her- she's mine  :lol

Liked it. I'm more excited for this than the new Avantasia strangely.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 25, 2013, 09:03:08 AM
Elize!!  I just went from 6-12.  Have either of you checked out Amaranthe's songs/videos?  Hardly worthy of this thread, but damn.  Just damn.

Nice looking cast on this album!  Another to add to my 2013 list.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 25, 2013, 10:11:56 AM
I like the Amaranthe. I'd love it if the growler shut up but that's modern metal for you.
I'd probably take Nemesea over it, but not sure I could choose between Manda and Elize as easily. Now that would be a nice problem to have  :heart
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 25, 2013, 10:46:48 AM
I'd probably take Nemesea over it, but not sure I could choose between Manda and Elize as easily. Now that would be a nice problem to have  :heart

Nemesea is hot and cold for me.  The two previous albums to The Quiet Resistance, I found Manda to be too much in the high operatic range - like early Nightwish.  Much prefer the mid-tier register sound on The Quiet Resistance.  But yeah... visually, how do you chose?

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5hSMpX1rF0Y/UGfaCNZcWzI/AAAAAAAAMTw/UuMheopwACs/s640/Elize+Ryd+video3.jpg)

(https://janmi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Manda-Ophuis-Nemesea.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on March 25, 2013, 12:00:12 PM
In Control is my favorite. I like the electronicness of it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 25, 2013, 03:25:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98mD8hvKKso

Basically the same as anything on the first Revolution Renaissance album.

But hot damn, I'm in love.  :heart :hefdaddy :heart

Also, Timo's solo sounds different.  It sounds like the debated guitar solos that he apparentely didn't do from the last two RR albums.  Hmm...could he have in fact played those solos.  This sounds nothing like his old style, it instantly reminded me of those albums, interesting.

you can't have her- she's mine  :lol

Liked it. I'm more excited for this than the new Avantasia strangely.

Yeah, I think I'm looking forward to this more too.


Elize!!  I just went from 6-12.  Have either of you checked out Amaranthe's songs/videos?  Hardly worthy of this thread, but damn.  Just damn.

Nice looking cast on this album!  Another to add to my 2013 list.

Ah, I wondered where she was from, never checked them out, but I will now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 27, 2013, 07:26:19 PM
Not sure when Blabbermouth released this but ...

Quote
"Novum Initium", the new album from multinational melodic metallers MASTERPLAN, will be released on May 17 via AFM Records.

"Novum Initium" track listing:

01. Per Aspera Ad Astra
02. The Game
03. Keep Your Dream Alive
04. Black Night Of Magic
05. Betrayal
06. No Escape
07. Pray On My Soul
08. Earth Is Going Down
09. Return From Avalon
10. Through Your Eyes
11. Novum Initium
12. 1492 (digipack bonus track)
13. Fear The Silence (digipack bonus track)

The "Novum Initium" digipack cover artwork can be seen below.

(https://www.blabbermouth.net/soulflypremiere/masterplannovumnew.jpg)
(https://www.blabbermouth.net/soulflypremiere/masterplan2013bandnew.jpg)

Sure, no Jorn.  But Rick Altzi as a replacement ain't too shabby.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2013, 05:23:29 AM
Yeah, known about this for a while, a shame the release date got pushed back.  Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 28, 2013, 05:39:50 AM
I remember you mentioning it.  Just thought the tracklist was new.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2013, 05:41:43 AM
You could be right, that's the digipak version.  :metal

Also;

PROJECT 4 FOR GUITARIST GIUNTINI:
Escape Music will release the latest Giuntini: Project album on May 5. Titled IV, the lineup for this release will be: Aldo Giuntini - Guitars; Tony Martin - Vocals (ex Black Sabbath); Fabiano Rizzi - Drums; Roberto Gualdi - Drums; Fulvio Gaslini - Bass; Liz Vandall - Vocals on "Bring on the Night".
Track list: 1) Perfect Sorrow 3:08 2) Born In The Underworld 5:17 3) Shadow Of The Stone 3:58 4) Cured 4:08 5) I Don't Believe In Fortune 4:03 6) If The Dream Comes True 4:45 7) The Rise And Fall Of Barry Lyndon 4:33 8) Bring On The Night 4:20 9) Not The Jealous Kind 4:32 10) Saint Or Sinner 3:57 11) Last Station: Nightmare 5:19 12) How The Story Ends 4:24 13) Truth Never Lie 5:12.

(https://www.melodicrock.com/giuntiniproject-iv.jpg)

I only have the third album from this guy and it's an incredible slab of melodic hard rock.  This is a surprise and I'm super pumped for this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 28, 2013, 03:15:52 PM
Yeah, I've only heard III and liked it, Not played it in ages though.

I thought tony Martin's voice had gone? Let's hope not.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2013, 03:21:41 PM
He sounded pretty damn good on III, and he sounded pretty solid on the Cage cd just last year, so I'm sure it will be okay.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 29, 2013, 03:10:10 AM
He sounded pretty damn good on III, and he sounded pretty solid on the Cage cd just last year, so I'm sure it will be okay.

Have yo heard the TNT clips from the recent Rock Cruise thing from Bosk1's thread?
Tony Mills voice is awful on those. He used to  be so good but on those tracks he sounds like me singing in the shower.
I know Tony Harnell is not the easiest person to replace but Tony Mills did have the voice at one time. Shy's Exceess All Areas album is a classic. In fact if you've not heard it let it be my latest recommendation.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 01, 2013, 03:52:44 AM
He sounded pretty damn good on III, and he sounded pretty solid on the Cage cd just last year, so I'm sure it will be okay.

Have yo heard the TNT clips from the recent Rock Cruise thing from Bosk1's thread?
Tony Mills voice is awful on those. He used to  be so good but on those tracks he sounds like me singing in the shower.
I know Tony Harnell is not the easiest person to replace but Tony Mills did have the voice at one time. Shy's Exceess All Areas album is a classic. In fact if you've not heard it let it be my latest recommendation.

Yeah, that Shy album is awesome.  I really like Tony on Serpentine's Living in High Definition album too.

I've never really dived into TNT, but funny you mention them, I'm listening to A Farewell to Arms right now which I picked up for $2.00. SO far, it's rubbish.  :lol  Lucky it was only $2.  I have a couple of the older albums with Harnell and they are pretty good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 01, 2013, 04:39:45 AM
He sounded pretty damn good on III, and he sounded pretty solid on the Cage cd just last year, so I'm sure it will be okay.

Have yo heard the TNT clips from the recent Rock Cruise thing from Bosk1's thread?
Tony Mills voice is awful on those. He used to  be so good but on those tracks he sounds like me singing in the shower.
I know Tony Harnell is not the easiest person to replace but Tony Mills did have the voice at one time. Shy's Exceess All Areas album is a classic. In fact if you've not heard it let it be my latest recommendation.

Yeah, that Shy album is awesome.  I really like Tony on Serpentine's Living in High Definition album too.

I've never really dived into TNT, but funny you mention them, I'm listening to A Farewell to Arms right now which I picked up for $2.00. SO far, it's rubbish.  :lol  Lucky it was only $2.  I have a couple of the older albums with Harnell and they are pretty good.

Can't beat Tell No Tales. That's head and shoulders above all their others. Intuition was good but a let down at the time. My Religion was ok and the others have decent songs but none ever really clicked. The Tony Mills albums weren't very good. I get the impression Le Tekro is a bit Schenker/Tolkki in the sanity department... or he just doesn't give a toss  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 01, 2013, 06:00:31 PM
I turned off the album halfway through.  I can't even think which ones I have at the moment.  I know I have Far Away From the Sun or something which was okay but didn't really listen to it much.  I should dig out the others I have.  Pretty sure I don't have Tell No Tales though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2013, 02:37:46 PM
Just caught up with Europe's "reunion" era albums.  On first listen, all were very good.

Last Look at Eden > Bag of Bones > Start From the Dark > Secret Society

At first, SS didn't even sound like Joey Tempest on the mic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 02, 2013, 03:04:19 PM
Just caught up with Europe's "reunion" era albums.  On first listen, all were very good.

Last Look at Eden > Bag of Bones > Start From the Dark > Secret Society

At first, SS didn't even sound like Joey Tempest on the mic.

Have to say I've not been a fan of the reunion stuff. The odd song has been ok but it's not what I want to hear from Europe. Joey still has a great voice but they picked the wrong guitarist for the reunion. I loved Norum's first two solo albums but after that he went downtuned and tuneless. And he can't play Kee Marcello's solos.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2013, 03:26:20 PM
Just caught up with Europe's "reunion" era albums.  On first listen, all were very good.

Last Look at Eden > Bag of Bones > Start From the Dark > Secret Society

At first, SS didn't even sound like Joey Tempest on the mic.

Have to say I've not been a fan of the reunion stuff. The odd song has been ok but it's not what I want to hear from Europe. Joey still has a great voice but they picked the wrong guitarist for the reunion. I loved Norum's first two solo albums but after that he went downtuned and tuneless. And he can't play Kee Marcello's solos.

Well, it's not like I'm going to see them play live anytime soon on this side of the pond, so that last point is irrelevant to me.  Start From the Dark was definitely unlike the original 3 albums (but still good.... just 'darker'); Secret Society was just not that memorable.  The other two were just what the doctor ordered.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2013, 03:28:22 PM
Secret Society is possibly my fav Europe album, from the ones I'm familar with, which is most.  I love it, although for you guys being into them in the eighties I can understand would find them disappointing. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 02, 2013, 04:45:18 PM
I turned off the album halfway through.  I can't even think which ones I have at the moment.  I know I have Far Away From the Sun or something which was okay but didn't really listen to it much.  I should dig out the others I have.  Pretty sure I don't have Tell No Tales though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmOq1eTPZaI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8MwB7VJtCc
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2013, 04:54:34 PM
I'll check those out after work.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 02, 2013, 05:30:26 PM
I only have Knight of the New Thunder from TNT; I think its great.  I read that was a good starting point for the band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 02, 2013, 11:43:40 PM
Just caught up with Europe's "reunion" era albums.  On first listen, all were very good.

Last Look at Eden > Bag of Bones > Start From the Dark > Secret Society

At first, SS didn't even sound like Joey Tempest on the mic.

I recently had a first listen of Last Look at Eden and Bag of Bones and they didn't do much for me. Bag of Bones sounded fairly rockin' at points though, so that one could grow on me. I don't like the generic metal kind of sound of Eden though, and it's so damn overcompressed, I can't bring myself to listen to it through a whole album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2013, 04:15:43 AM
Yeah, I loved SS, but the last two didn't really do anything for me at all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2013, 04:22:08 AM
I turned off the album halfway through.  I can't even think which ones I have at the moment.  I know I have Far Away From the Sun or something which was okay but didn't really listen to it much.  I should dig out the others I have.  Pretty sure I don't have Tell No Tales though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmOq1eTPZaI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8MwB7VJtCc

These are damn good.  Need to check out more old school TNT.  Harnell here sounds exactly like Ray Alder back in the late eighties.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2013, 04:05:04 AM
Oh hell yes!!!!

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=188340

Frontiers Records will release "Magnus Karlsson's Free Fall" on June 11 in North America and June 14 in Europe.

Karlsson started his cooperation with Frontiers Records in the year 2000 when his band LAST TRIBE was signed by the Italian label. After two more records with this group, Magnus was asked by Serafino Perugino, Frontiers Records label president, to write and produce some of their artists. This started a successful journey of collaborations with some of the greatest singers and musicians in the hard rock/metal world. The list includes the successful ALLEN/LANDE trilogy, STARBREAKER, BOB CATLEY, KISKE/SOMERVILLE and the list goes on and on. He finally joined the German heavy metal icons PRIMAL FEAR in 2008 and with them he toured the world and recorded two successful albums that climbed high on the charts in several countries.

This time, Magnus created his own album with his strongest melodic metal and hard rock set of songs ever and invited both old and new friends to sing them. The list includes Russell Allen (SYMPHONY X, ADRENALINE MOB), Ralf Scheepers (PRIMAL FEAR, GAMMA RAY), Tony Harnell (TNT, STARBREAKER), Mark Boals (YNGWIE MALMSTEEN, THE CODEX), Rick Altzi (MASTERPLAN, AT VANCE), Mike Andersson (STAR ONE, FULL FORCE), Rickard Bengtsson (LAST TRIBE), Herman Saming (A.C.T.), David Readman (PINK CREAM 69, VODOO CIRCLE). Rounding up the line-up on the album is Daniel Flores on drums.

"I've had the honor to collaborate with some of the greatest singers and musicians in the world," says Magnus. "Artists who have made my life richer with their magical music. On this album, I got the chance to write tailor made songs for some of my absolute favorite singers. I was thinking, what would I really like to hear from this or that guy, and then I wrote the songs. Its like if I'm missing a song with my favourite singer in my record collection, then I just make that song for him! I listen like a fan and I write like a fan, wellI am a fan!"

"Magnus Karlsson's Free Fall" track listing:

01. Free Fall (lead vocals: Russell Allen)
02. Higher (lead vocals: Ralf Scheepers)
03. Heading Out (lead vocals: Magnus Karlsson)
04. Stronger (lead vocals: Tony Harnell)
05. Not My Saviour (lead vocals: Rick Altzi)
06. Us Against The World (lead vocals: David Readman)
07. Our Time Has Come (lead vocals: Mark Boals)
08. Ready Or Not (lead vocals: Magnus Karlsson)
09. Last Tribe (lead vocals: Rickard Bengtsson)
10. Fighting (lead vocals: Herman Saming)
11. Dreamers & Hunters (lead vocals: Mike Andersson)
12. On Fire (lead vocals: Magnus Karlsson)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-u60fsjQYU

(https://www.blabbermouth.net/soulflypremiere/karlssonfreefall.jpg)

(https://www.blabbermouth.net/soulflypremiere/mkarlssonsolo.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 05, 2013, 05:36:10 AM
Wow... pretty sweet looking list of vocalists!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2013, 06:15:47 AM
The samples are awesome too, I seriously can't wait to get my hands on this.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 05, 2013, 01:43:59 PM
Thats a cool looking cover
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 05, 2013, 02:21:42 PM
Sounds good, I especially like the Scheepers track. I have high hopes.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2013, 04:39:06 PM
Yeah, the vocals on all 4 tracks sound really good, and some good melodies, and of course there will be killer guitar work.  Can't wait.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 05, 2013, 09:36:05 PM
STOP POSTING SHIT I'M GONNA HAVE TO BUY!!!!!  Mike Anderson on Star One (As The Crow Dies) is one of my favorite tracks.  Dayum.  Another to add to the list.  My pending 2013 releases is now sitting at 21!!!  And that doesn't include the already relased stuff shit I'll undoubtedly pickup along the way (eg, Pretty Maids)

You bastards!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 06, 2013, 09:50:56 AM
STOP POSTING SHIT I'M GONNA HAVE TO BUY!!!!!  Mike Anderson on Star One (As The Crow Dies) is one of my favorite tracks.  Dayum.  Another to add to the list.  My pending 2013 releases is now sitting at 21!!!  And that doesn't include the already relased stuff shit I'll undoubtedly pickup along the way (eg, Pretty Maids)

You bastards!

Tell me about it  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2013, 05:18:50 AM
STOP POSTING SHIT I'M GONNA HAVE TO BUY!!!!!  Mike Anderson on Star One (As The Crow Dies) is one of my favorite tracks.  Dayum.  Another to add to the list.  My pending 2013 releases is now sitting at 21!!!  And that doesn't include the already relased stuff shit I'll undoubtedly pickup along the way (eg, Pretty Maids)

You bastards!

Have you checked Cloudscape yet? (Mike Andersson's band)

Also, check the Planet Alliance album that Magnus and Mike were involved with, really good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 07, 2013, 05:42:27 AM
STOP POSTING SHIT I'M GONNA HAVE TO BUY!!!!!  Mike Anderson on Star One (As The Crow Dies) is one of my favorite tracks.  Dayum.  Another to add to the list.  My pending 2013 releases is now sitting at 21!!!  And that doesn't include the already relased stuff shit I'll undoubtedly pickup along the way (eg, Pretty Maids)

You bastards!

Have you checked Cloudscape yet? (Mike Andersson's band)

Also, check the Planet Alliance album that Magnus and Mike were involved with, really good.

No... and No.

nononononono!!!!  Must.  Resist.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2013, 06:01:48 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2013, 06:19:39 AM
Just pre ordered Magnus' album!!  :metal

Also, got my copy of the new Pretty Maids, it's really quite excellent and nice and consistent.  Don't know how it will stand up towards Pandamonium, it seems more sinister and not as explosive.  I think the songs on Pandamonium are stronger but Motherland is more consistent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2013, 04:44:18 AM
What the hell, another new Jorn album!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmALY0tRwC8

(https://www.frontiers.it/m/uploads/photos/jorn_trav_cover.jpg)

Overload
Cancer Demon
Traveller
Window Maker
Make Your Engine Scream
Legend Man Carry The Black
Rev On
Monsoon
The Man Who Was King

Jorn Lande: Vocals
Willy Bendiksen: Drums
Trond Holter: Guitar
Jimmy Iversen: Guitar
Bernt Jansen: Bass

Actually sounds a bit fresher and heavier than the last one and that first sample is possibly the heaviest thing Jorn has done.  Although the verses on the third sample are a direct rip off of Dio's Push.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 15, 2013, 05:07:28 AM
Trond Halter from Wigwam should ensure some good melodies- some Wigwam influence in the first clip towrds the end of it. Pretty excited from the samples, and I haven't been for a Jorn album in a long time.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 15, 2013, 05:22:52 AM
Not sure where I stand on this.  I was so disappointed with Bring Heavy Rock to the Land.  These samples sound a little better.  We'll see.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2013, 05:45:28 AM
Yeah, we'll see guys, but the samples do sound more promising.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 15, 2013, 07:19:16 AM
Sounds like the usual Jorn to me. I think Jorn is an awesome vocalist, but none of his original solo stuff has ever stood out to me, and I don't like the same production on every single album. I didn't like the Allen/Lande stuff either. I wish I could get into more of his stuff.  :-\
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 15, 2013, 08:51:09 AM
From his FB feed:

Quote
Hey everyone! The new PelleK concept-album "Ocean of Opportunity" will be ready and sent to printing already next week! Get ready for the 9 most awesome tracks you've ever heard from PelleK! \m/ The release-date will be announced very soon :)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/546111_455893584490589_1726979472_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 15, 2013, 10:16:38 AM
Very good singer. His album from last year was pretty good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 15, 2013, 10:38:59 AM
Bag of Tricks is good - and a good list of guests (for those that didn't know... Amanda Sommerville, Tommy Karevik, Oliver Hartmann).

Damnation Angels is the absolute bomb!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 15, 2013, 11:52:53 AM
Bag of Tricks is good - and a good list of guests (for those that didn't know... Amanda Sommerville, Tommy Karevik, Oliver Hartmann).

Damnation Angels is the absolute bomb!

Yeah, what he said.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2013, 03:15:21 PM
Hmmm....another one for me to check out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on April 23, 2013, 05:13:00 PM
Checked out Damnation Angels and holy crap those orchestrations. Absolutely amazing. No Leaf Clover is kind of a bust, but the rest of the album slays. I love metal with orchestrations like this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 24, 2013, 09:24:00 AM
Checked out Damnation Angels and holy crap those orchestrations. Absolutely amazing. No Leaf Clover is kind of a bust, but the rest of the album slays. I love metal with orchestrations like this.

Have you checked out the Rage albums from Lingua Mortis onwards? Excellent use of the orchestra in metal.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on April 24, 2013, 02:39:43 PM
Last time I checked out Rage, I didn't like the singers voice, but I'll give em another shot.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 29, 2013, 10:28:34 AM
YT teaser/samplers for PelleK's album, and he's taking pre-orders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-G54CL8X5M

More of the same from him... but I'll likely still buy it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 07, 2013, 03:54:54 PM
You guys familiar with Code Of Silence? I finally received their debut Dark Skies Over Babylon today in the mail. I bought it after watching the following video of Sky Is Falling Down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSPtR8ote-I

Honestly, I was kind of dissappointed with it. I was hoping it was heavier, but I thought it would be perfect for this thread. Great vocals and guitar!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 07, 2013, 04:37:52 PM
You guys familiar with Code Of Silence? I finally received their debut Dark Skies Over Babylon today in the mail. I bought it after watching the following video of Sky Is Falling Down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSPtR8ote-I

Honestly, I was kind of dissappointed with it. I was hoping it was heavier, but I thought it would be perfect for this thread. Great vocals and guitar!

Not bad. Lyrics are shite but the rest is fine. I'll give it a listen or two on Spotify. You're spot on with the vocals and guitar.
Been in the mood for a bit heavier recently though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 07, 2013, 05:40:50 PM
Heard Code of Silence once before - they had a track on one of the Melodicrock.com compilations I ordered last year.  Can't say I remember the track... it's kinda hard to stand out against a group that includes the likes of Pride of Lions, Jimi Jameson, Jim Peterik, Eric Martin, House of Lords, Harmann, Terry Brock, Mecca, JLT, First Signal, Trillion, Andreas Novak... the list goes on.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2013, 04:02:28 AM
You guys familiar with Code Of Silence? I finally received their debut Dark Skies Over Babylon today in the mail. I bought it after watching the following video of Sky Is Falling Down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSPtR8ote-I

Honestly, I was kind of dissappointed with it. I was hoping it was heavier, but I thought it would be perfect for this thread. Great vocals and guitar!

Didn't really like that song at all to be honest.  The guitar solo was great though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 10, 2013, 05:45:06 AM
Just had a peek at frontiers.it.  And this was in the latest videos section - Burning Rain/My Lust Your Fate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q71lr6aHP5A

Pretty good, though I don't feel compelled to go out and buy it.  Watching/listening to this, I feel I stepped right into 1987.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 10, 2013, 06:00:21 AM
Never heard of them, but then I spotted my Aldrich on guitars, so I'm already interested! Decent song. The style alone is enough to make me want to hear more though.
Doesn't really sound 80s to me. Sounds either earlier 90s, or just modern rock.

Great music video too. Bonus points for that.


Frontiers also put up the EPK for the new King Kobra album, King Kobra 2. Music video is coming in June, but the snippets in the video sounded great. I expect it will be at least as good as the last one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2013, 06:25:41 AM
Just had a peek at frontiers.it.  And this was in the latest videos section - Burning Rain/My Lust Your Fate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q71lr6aHP5A

Pretty good, though I don't feel compelled to go out and buy it.  Watching/listening to this, I feel I stepped right into 1987.

Yeah, I checked that video when it came out and didn't really like it all to be honest.  Not gonna pick it up.

Frontiers also put up the EPK for the new King Kobra album, King Kobra 2. Music video is coming in June, but the snippets in the video sounded great. I expect it will be at least as good as the last one.

Yeah, the last King Kobra was pretty good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 10, 2013, 01:28:28 PM
I didn't like it either, mainly the vocals tbh. The guitars sound a million dollars, like on the Whitesnake albums Doug has done.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2013, 03:34:05 PM
Even Dougs playing for me has become pretty pedestrian.  He was so much more creative when he was with Dio.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2013, 04:06:57 AM
Just a quick post to mention new Fair Warning and Poodles coming up.  Fair Warning coming at the end of this month and The Poodles next month I think.  Looking forward to both.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 13, 2013, 04:32:22 AM
Just a quick post to mention new Fair Warning and Poodles coming up.  Fair Warning coming at the end of this month and The Poodles next month I think.  Looking forward to both.

I prefer FW to The Poodles, though they have their moments. Will give both a listen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 16, 2013, 03:40:58 PM
Paul, I can't remember if you have ever been into Accept or UDO, but I'm slowly going back through UDO's discography, even though I've been a fan of the later stuff for a few years, but got the album Faceless World and despite UDO being more straight heavy metal, Faceless World has a slight AOR edge and lots of great choruses and solos with amazing production.  I think you would dig it.  The other one I'm listening to is Timebomb which if you like FW, check it out as it's a bit heavier.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 17, 2013, 02:52:40 PM
Paul, I can't remember if you have ever been into Accept or UDO, but I'm slowly going back through UDO's discography, even though I've been a fan of the later stuff for a few years, but got the album Faceless World and despite UDO being more straight heavy metal, Faceless World has a slight AOR edge and lots of great choruses and solos with amazing production.  I think you would dig it.  The other one I'm listening to is Timebomb which if you like FW, check it out as it's a bit heavier.

I would have liked Accept without Udo in it. Hate his weedy voice- ruined some fine material. Prefer the new Accept singer even though he sounds like Udo, just better and stronger. Saw Accept live at Donington Monsters Of Rock (1984) many years ago and enjoyed them 'cos you couldn't really hear Udo.
Not heard of Timebomb. I'll check it out.

Edit  :facepalm: thought timebomb was a band. It's been a long day! Checked out Timebomb on Spotify without realising that's what you'd recommended and liked the music but not the voice. Shame. Some good songs.

My rediscovered classic this week was this little beauty. Not sure if I recommended it before?

(https://www.heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/C/CROWNOFTHORNS_ST.JPG)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUVQ-fcVVe8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC1V-URmg4U
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2013, 04:38:24 PM
No worries, I was worried you wouldn't like his voice.

I have one Crown of Thorns album, it's okay.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on May 17, 2013, 04:43:29 PM
Anyone listen to Timo Tollki's Avalon yet? On first listen, all the tracks with just the female singers were the better ones.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 17, 2013, 04:48:59 PM
Anyone listen to Timo Tollki's Avalon yet? On first listen, all the tracks with just the female singers were the better ones.

Just noticed it's on Spotiify. Will have a listen and get back to you.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2013, 04:49:44 PM
I'll wait until I receive my copy.  I'm not expecting too much to be honest, Tolkki has always been pretty pedestrian with his song writing, will be interesting to see how it goes down in an Avantasia style setting.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on May 17, 2013, 05:00:07 PM
It actually sounds very similar to old Avantasia in the melody department. And unfortunately a tad too generic power metally.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 17, 2013, 05:01:51 PM
The Poodles album, is up on Spotify too. I love this service. Means I don't have to buy poor albums anymore. Going to have to skim it for now- it's nearly bedtime.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2013, 05:05:39 PM
It actually sounds very similar to old Avantasia in the melody department. And unfortunately a tad too generic power metally.

Yeah, I think that's sort of what I mean, not much diversity in his song writing anymore.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 17, 2013, 05:11:00 PM
Damn Spotify not in Canada.  I thought Avalon's release date was the 21st?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 17, 2013, 05:12:10 PM
It actually sounds very similar to old Avantasia in the melody department. And unfortunately a tad too generic power metally.

Yeah, I think that's sort of what I mean, not much diversity in his song writing anymore.

The "play the  bass drums as fast as you can" approach should be banned in power metal. Boring, boring, boring.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2013, 05:48:55 PM
Damn Spotify not in Canada.  I thought Avalon's release date was the 21st?

Yeah that's the official release date.

It actually sounds very similar to old Avantasia in the melody department. And unfortunately a tad too generic power metally.

Yeah, I think that's sort of what I mean, not much diversity in his song writing anymore.

The "play the  bass drums as fast as you can" approach should be banned in power metal. Boring, boring, boring.

I just feel that he used that over and over again in Strato and it worked for them, but if you are doing other projects, you need some diversity.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on May 17, 2013, 08:31:43 PM
I'm telling you guys, if you want some good Power Metal, check out Lorenguard's debut album, Eve of Corruption.

Also, Enshrined in my Memory is the best song on the Avalon album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 18, 2013, 03:10:56 AM
I'm telling you guys, if you want some good Power Metal, check out Lorenguard's debut album, Eve of Corruption.

Also, Enshrined in my Memory is the best song on the Avalon album.

Yeah I like the Lorenguard album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 22, 2013, 02:50:52 PM
I've spun PelleK's new album a couple of times now.  Very good melodic/symphonic/power metal.  Worth a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuMGcUenRVw

Damn I love this dude's voice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 22, 2013, 05:00:15 PM
Also, I'm gonna snag the new TT Avalon release.  Are any of his solo efforts worth grabbing?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2013, 05:08:37 PM
Also, I'm gonna snag the new TT Avalon release.  Are any of his solo efforts worth grabbing?

Hymn to Life is not what you would expect.  Not metal at all and has many different styles.  There's Key to the Universe, great song featuring Kiske.  Now I Understand is more of a pop effort, Devine is a moody atmospheric piece which is quite good.  Then you have Fresh Blue Waters which is almost country, and Father which is one of the most disturbing pieces of music I have ever heard.  I like the album, but definietely not what you would expect.

I haven't got his classical variations albums of his Saana album.  The first Revolution Renaissance album is a power metal must but the other two are forgettable.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 22, 2013, 05:28:28 PM
Yeah, I stream'd the RR albums a couple months back (from Grooveshark).  Liked them plenty on first listen, but not enough to make a purchase.  Think I'll pass on his solo stuff.  Your lackluster description makes me think the listening experience will be the same.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 28, 2013, 04:08:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9T_KfkDyI

new Jorn vid.  This is actually really solid and fresh.  Besides the verses sounding exactly like Dio's Push, this is great.  That riff just before the solo is absolutely incredible and the solos are stellar.  Also, the guitar tones of the harmonies during the solos, sounds exactly like the guitars on Death's Sound of Perserverance.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 28, 2013, 05:01:00 PM
Also, new Masterplan vid.  Not bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ4BlRwKMRo
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2013, 05:03:06 AM
New Poodles album is pretty good.  40 Days and 40 Nights is one of the best songs of the year, incredible.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 29, 2013, 06:11:08 AM
Dig that Masterplan.  Altzi sounds like he's gonna fit in just fine.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2013, 06:12:13 AM
Yeah, I'm liking him a lot too.  The two songs released are solid and I'm confident already it will be better than the last crap fest.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 29, 2013, 06:33:29 AM
BTW, he was on the Epysode 1 project too (if you haven't checked that out despite my numerous pushes).
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 29, 2013, 07:50:53 AM
Those Jorn and Masterplan videos are pretty good; paint by the numbers power metal, but good.  Jorn is kind of creepy in his video though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 29, 2013, 01:03:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9T_KfkDyI

new Jorn vid.  This is actually really solid and fresh.  Besides the verses sounding exactly like Dio's Push, this is great.  That riff just before the solo is absolutely incredible and the solos are stellar.  Also, the guitar tones of the harmonies during the solos, sounds exactly like the guitars on Death's Sound of Perserverance.

I've always rated Teeny as a guitarist. good to hear him playing some heavier stuff than his day job in WigWam. Also, Flash is holding down some heavy bottom end. Pretty good song, might be a decent Jorn album at last. Unless all the songs are in this same tempo, as his last few have been.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2013, 04:51:51 AM
Just listened to the new TT Avalon.  It was okay, but really didn't do too much for me to be honest.  Will give it time and keep pluggin it.  As Zook said, it's just pretty generic, even for your standard power metal.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 31, 2013, 05:36:46 AM
Just listened to the new TT Avalon.  It was okay, but really didn't do too much for me to be honest.  Will give it time and keep pluggin it.  As Zook said, it's just pretty generic, even for your standard power metal.

:iagree:

listened once... nothing wow'd me, but it was pretty solid.  think I'll spin it again today.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2013, 05:39:41 AM
Yeah, I think it's nothing special but at the same time I didn't mind it.  Definitely needs more spins.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 31, 2013, 02:21:13 PM
Yeah, I think it's nothing special but at the same time I didn't mind it.  Definitely needs more spins.

I do enjoy the videos with Elize Ryd though  :heart. That counts for something.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2013, 03:58:58 PM
Yeah, she is seriously one of the most stunning women alive.

Also, I had a sneak peak at a couple of tracks from the new Magnus Karlsson album, and they are incredible, I think this album will be pretty special.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 31, 2013, 04:30:42 PM
Yeah, she is seriously one of the most stunning women alive.

Also, I had a sneak peak at a couple of tracks from the new Magnus Karlsson album, and they are incredible, I think this album will be pretty special.

I'm expecting something special there. Talented guy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2013, 04:43:24 AM
Holy shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roZQaR0xOFY

Check this out, this sounds amazing!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 07, 2013, 09:44:34 AM
Holy shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roZQaR0xOFY

Check this out, this sounds amazing!!
Can't get Youtube at work. What is it?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2013, 05:08:30 PM
Holy shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roZQaR0xOFY

Check this out, this sounds amazing!!
Can't get Youtube at work. What is it?

Samples from a new project call Find Me featuring Daniel Flores and Robbie Leblanc.  These samples sound incredible, but the album doesn't come out until late August.  Make sure you check them, they're incredible.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on June 07, 2013, 05:12:23 PM
They sound Ok, nothing wrong with them, but...... Nothing is ever going to top The Magnificent. :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2013, 05:20:56 PM
The Magnificent was an amazing cd, but for some reason, it didn't have much lasting power for me.  I never feel a need to go back and listen to it.  I should do it though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on June 07, 2013, 05:23:33 PM
I don't listen to it as much as I did, but I still love it. Michael Eriksen really makes that album. If it were someone else singing, I probably wouldn't like it as much.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 08, 2013, 03:50:28 AM
They sound Ok, nothing wrong with them, but...... Nothing is ever going to top The Magnificent. :P

It was ok but nothing outstanding for me. I listen to it now and then. The new Magnus Karlson will blow it out of the water  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 09, 2013, 04:20:13 PM
Update this thread as soon as you've heard Free Fall Paul.  I hopefully should be getting my copy this week.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 11, 2013, 05:08:03 AM
Looks like we are in for a treat with Magnus Karlsson, it's getting great reviews.

https://www.metal-temple.com/site/catalogues/entry/reviews/cd_3/m_2/magnus-karlsson-s.htm

https://www.rockeyez.com/reviews/cd/magnus-karlsson/rev-2013-06-bmr-magnus-karlsson-free-fall-5-0.html
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 11, 2013, 05:31:06 AM
Hot damn!  Me is excited!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 11, 2013, 05:51:42 AM
Yeah I can't wait.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 12, 2013, 06:39:14 AM
Samples of the new Masterplan.  This sounds damn good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdaZiaOhcS0
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 12, 2013, 11:56:21 AM
Fergie Frederiksen (ex-TOTO) - Last Battle of My War (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aS7cNvXT_4&feature=youtu.be)

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 12, 2013, 12:02:02 PM
Boy, his voice has held up a little better than his face.


Really enjoyed the song though. My measure of good AOR is whether or not it works over an '80s movie training montage. This passed with flying colours.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 12, 2013, 12:03:00 PM
Really enjoyed the song though. My measure of good AOR is whether or not it works over an '80s movie training montage. This passed with flying colours.
:lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 12, 2013, 12:15:19 PM
Oh sure you laugh now, but later when you get the sudden urge to watch Rocky IV, remember this!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 12, 2013, 12:55:53 PM
Samples of the new Masterplan.  This sounds damn good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdaZiaOhcS0

Ooh this sounds good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 12, 2013, 04:38:11 PM
Fergie Frederiksen (ex-TOTO) - Last Battle of My War (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aS7cNvXT_4&feature=youtu.be)

This is awesome, another release to add to my list.  His last album was pretty good too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 12, 2013, 04:40:36 PM
Boy, his voice has held up a little better than his face.


Really enjoyed the song though. My measure of good AOR is whether or not it works over an '80s movie training montage. This passed with flying colours.

Well, he is 62, and has overcome a pretty severe cancer.

But yes, this could easily go with any 80's montage, good stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 13, 2013, 06:28:58 AM
Fergie Frederiksen (ex-TOTO) - Last Battle of My War (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aS7cNvXT_4&feature=youtu.be)

This is awesome, another release to add to my list.  His last album was pretty good too.

I'm freaking loving this song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 13, 2013, 06:39:37 AM
I'll definitely be getting that one. Just my style, and I've felt like listening to the song several times.



But I can't watch that music video! That withered old face looks so physically pained with each note. I think it's a rule that melodic rock artists aren't suited to camera. Toto. I rest my case. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 13, 2013, 06:51:52 AM
I'll definitely be getting that one. Just my style, and I've felt like listening to the song several times.



But I can't watch that music video! That withered old face looks so physically pained with each note. I think it's a rule that melodic rock artists aren't suited to camera. Toto. I rest my case. :lol

I'm listening to it again right now.

Come on Blob, give poor Fergie a break.  He looks so happy and energetic in that video, he's loving every second of it.  Really killer song though.  But it is written by Allesandro Del Vecchio, he's been doing quality stuff lately.  Here's the full press release by the way;


FERGIE FREDERIKSEN ENJOYS ANY GIVEN MOMENT: HIS NEW SOLO ALBUM OUT IN AUGUST:
Frontiers Records is pleased to announce the release of Fergie Frederiksen new solo album Any Given Moment on August 23 in Europe and August 27 in North America.
The excellent reviews surrounding the release of his latest album Happiness Is The Road in 2011 (with UK's leading AOR magazine Fireworks calling it “Quite stunning!”) rebuilt Fergie's trust in himself and therefore pretty soon another new album was in the works.
This time, Fergie collaborated with Italian producer Alessandro Del Vecchio and with the help of his songwriting, along with contributions from other world class musicians as Bruce Gaitsch (Richard Marx) and Robert Sall (Work of Art, W.E.T.) on guitars among others, Fergie put his mark on another true Melodic Rock gem of an album! “This CD was a pleasure to record. Ale and his talents as an engineer and producer shine” says Fergie. “It is always great when you make "life long friends" doing what we love to do. He's become a dear friend and a great artist. I look forward to working with him again”.

Some special surprises are also included such as the superb duet with Issa on “Not Alone” and a brand new version of Toto's classic song “Angel Don't Cry” originally included on the “Isolation” album. In Fergie's words, the new album title is particularly important because in life “You never know what will happen. But if you have love, faith, family and friends it always makes the trials and struggles in life more doable. Thank God I am blessed with all that and more”.
This new album really rocks though and songs like “The Price For Loving You” and the first single “Last Battle of My War” are there to show the world that Fergie's vocal abilities are still amazing and second to none “The songs on this album are truly all awesome. I had a chance to stretch and let it fly.  “Not Alone”, which I sang a duet with Issa, is pretty special. Our voices blend together and I was so happy she agreed to do it. PO Nilsson really wrote a killer song. Then again there are many more I feel strongly about. Hope you all like them.”
A very special twist during the recording process… “was the trip to visit Frontiers Records in Naples” recalls Fergie. “What fantastic hosts they are. And the food was to die for. I also learned more about Naples in one day than I ever thought possible. What a great day meeting everyone at Frontiers and spending the day in their beautiful and historical city. Blew my mind. All in all it was a great experience and I believe Ale captured my best. Thank you Serafino and Mario for hooking me up with Ale. Great fun and I hope everyone likes the new CD”.
Dennis “Fergie” Frederiksen is mostly known for being the former vocalist of Toto (on the “Isolation” album, released in 1984), he has been involved in a lot of other outstanding musical projects too. Trillion, LeRoux, Frederiksen/Philips, Mecca, Frederiksen/Denander and David London (solo album, under pseudonym) are simply a few worthy of mention. In 1999 he debuted as a solo artist with “Equilibrium”, an album which garnered great reviews in Europe and Japan and since then he has been offering quality Melodic Rock music to his legion of fans.

Any Given Moment includes the following songs: Last Battle Of My War; Let Go; Price For Loving You; I'll Be The One; Time Will Change; How Many Roads; Candles In The Dark; Any Given Moment; Not Alone (Feat. Issa); When The Battle Is Over; Angel Don't Cry.
Enjoy the videoclip of the first single “Last Battle of My War”:

Musicians on “Any Given Moment” include: Fergie Frederiksen – lead vocals; Alessandro Del Vecchio – keyboards, background vocals; Nik Mazzucconi – bass, fretless bass; Herman Furin – drums; Robert Sall, Bruce Gaitsch, Walter Caliaro, Peter Friestedt, Alessio Berlaffa, Sven Larsson, David Coyle - Lead and rhythm guitars; Roberto Tiranti – background vocals; Issa – duet vocals on “Not Alone”. Produced by Alessandro Del Vecchio.


(https://www.melodicrock.com/fergiefrederiksen-anygivenmoment.jpg)  (https://www.melodicrock.com/fergiefrederiksen-2013.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 13, 2013, 06:57:41 AM
^^ :tup

Given that he has inoperable cancer it's pretty cool he's still going strong.

BTW anyone catching Toto this summer? I might do it actually, haven't seen them in a while.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 13, 2013, 06:57:55 AM
Aw don't worry, I don't care what he looks like. :lol The song is great, and to me stands out from the typical modern AOR stuff, and I'm keen to hear the rest of the album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 13, 2013, 08:39:25 AM
Aw don't worry, I don't care what he looks like. :lol The song is great, and to me stands out from the typical modern AOR stuff, and I'm keen to hear the rest of the album.

Alot of the AOR stuff I've heard recently doesn't hold my interest. The first few tracks are great then things get same-y. That's a good song, hopefully the rest of the album is as good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 13, 2013, 04:24:31 PM
Aw don't worry, I don't care what he looks like. :lol The song is great, and to me stands out from the typical modern AOR stuff, and I'm keen to hear the rest of the album.

Alot of the AOR stuff I've heard recently doesn't hold my interest. The first few tracks are great then things get same-y. That's a good song, hopefully the rest of the album is as good.

That's only cause you're into bands like Death at the moment.  :lol

Seriously though, I sort of agree. The melodic rock stuff the last 18 months or so has been pretty weak compared to 2-3 years ago.  This has potential as does the new Find Me, and of course Magnus, but that's more melodic metal.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on June 13, 2013, 05:47:54 PM
Aw don't worry, I don't care what he looks like. :lol The song is great, and to me stands out from the typical modern AOR stuff, and I'm keen to hear the rest of the album.

Alot of the AOR stuff I've heard recently doesn't hold my interest. The first few tracks are great then things get same-y. That's a good song, hopefully the rest of the album is as good.

That's only cause you're into bands like Death at the moment.  :lol

Seriously though, I sort of agree. The melodic rock stuff the last 18 months or so has been pretty weak compared to 2-3 years ago.  This has potential as does the new Find Me, and of course Magnus, but that's more melodic metal.

I agree as well. I think a big thing for me is that they all kind of sound the same sonically as well. Same kind of drum sound, same kind of guitar sound, and nothing playing wise that stands out to me as having a unique or different style than the rest of the bands in the genre. Couple that with generic lyrics, and it kind of gets stale quickly. Sometimes I just feel like I am listening to the same bands over and over with different singers. Maybe it is just me.

Still love the older stuff though. But nothing has really caught my ear lately.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 13, 2013, 10:10:49 PM
Aw don't worry, I don't care what he looks like. :lol The song is great, and to me stands out from the typical modern AOR stuff, and I'm keen to hear the rest of the album.

Alot of the AOR stuff I've heard recently doesn't hold my interest. The first few tracks are great then things get same-y. That's a good song, hopefully the rest of the album is as good.

That's only cause you're into bands like Death at the moment.  :lol

Seriously though, I sort of agree. The melodic rock stuff the last 18 months or so has been pretty weak compared to 2-3 years ago.  This has potential as does the new Find Me, and of course Magnus, but that's more melodic metal.

I agree as well. I think a big thing for me is that they all kind of sound the same sonically as well. Same kind of drum sound, same kind of guitar sound, and nothing playing wise that stands out to me as having a unique or different style than the rest of the bands in the genre. Couple that with generic lyrics, and it kind of gets stale quickly. Sometimes I just feel like I am listening to the same bands over and over with different singers. Maybe it is just me.

Still love the older stuff though. But nothing has really caught my ear lately.

It's not just you, I feel the same. It seems like every album has the same production, and kind of blurs together as if everyone's just recording their albums back to back. It's like they're all trying to fit in with a modern metal sound, and I find it a bit generic, with those triggered sounding drums, and thin guitars, and overcompression.

The Fergie Frederiksen song sounded a lot more grounded in the '80s melodic rock sound, which appeals to me a lot more. Each to his own though!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 14, 2013, 02:28:48 AM
Aw don't worry, I don't care what he looks like. :lol The song is great, and to me stands out from the typical modern AOR stuff, and I'm keen to hear the rest of the album.

Alot of the AOR stuff I've heard recently doesn't hold my interest. The first few tracks are great then things get same-y. That's a good song, hopefully the rest of the album is as good.

That's only cause you're into bands like Death at the moment.  :lol

Seriously though, I sort of agree. The melodic rock stuff the last 18 months or so has been pretty weak compared to 2-3 years ago.  This has potential as does the new Find Me, and of course Magnus, but that's more melodic metal.

 :lol

I recently reorganised my usbs for the car, metal on one and melodic rock on the other. It's been melrock for the last couple of weeks as the weather has been strangely hot here in the UK. Not much Death been played   :biggrin:

First listen to the Magnus Karlsson-  :hefdaddy
Melodic metal heaven. great songs, great playing, great vocals- just great. Unless the shine wears off, this is album of the year so far material.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2013, 05:09:10 AM
I was hoping for my copy of Magnus Karlsson being waiting for me tonight, but it wasn't.  Being Friday, I'll have to wait until next week, but I'm gonna hold out until I get my copy.

The reviews have been outstanding and your backign them all up Paul.  If you think it's album of the year material, it must be fucking good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wkiml on June 14, 2013, 05:41:26 AM
maybe its just me and my age...but having grown up with AOR being the staple of the radio with bands like Boston/Toto/Foreigner/Doobie Brothers  all these "new" AOR bands all sound the same and are generic as hell

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2013, 05:44:09 AM
I think they just have different influences these days, more metal.  But as said above, Frontiers do have a regular roster at the moment where they just put people together and get them to churn out albums.  It's almost a factory where they just spit out this type of music.  It's like pop but just not popular.  I don't mind but when you get things that aren't up to par, you'd rather the artists slow down and produce quality as opposed to quantity.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 14, 2013, 05:48:12 AM
I don't like the metal direction samey-ness they mostly have these days. I'm glad that Frontiers supports that kind of music, but it also makes it harder to weed out the good stuff from the rest when they churn out so much.

I'm really waiting for a new Stan Bush album hopefully later this year (he's currently recording it), because his last few albums have been really solid performers for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 14, 2013, 05:50:02 AM
I think they just have different influences these days, more metal.  But as said above, Frontiers do have a regular roster at the moment where they just put people together and get them to churn out albums.  It's almost a factory where they just spit out this type of music.  It's like pop but just not popular.  I don't mind but when you get things that aren't up to par, you'd rather the artists slow down and produce quality as opposed to quantity.

Yeah that is definitely a problem.

The MK album was an instant hit just hoping that it doesn't wear off quickly. Listened to his Bob Catley album (Immortal) last night- another great MK album.
The new Masterplan sounds good too. Amazon have done well out of me today.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 14, 2013, 07:00:29 AM
Ok, I'm giving this Magnus Karlsson album a spin because of this thread. Let you know how it goes.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2013, 07:11:21 AM
Sounds good Blob, hopefully you will enjoy it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 14, 2013, 07:23:22 AM
Blah, and I'm already out. Sorry.
Nothing wrong with it, I just don't like the metal stuff. It just does absolutely nothing at all for me. I like melodic rock, but I'm pretty fussy with it, and I don't really like the melodic metal. I just feel like I'm listening to power metal (not that there's anything wrong with that either). The mix/production isn't all too great either.

I can't wait for the Fergie Frederiksen one to come out already, dangit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 14, 2013, 08:55:07 AM
Blah, and I'm already out. Sorry.
Nothing wrong with it, I just don't like the metal stuff. It just does absolutely nothing at all for me. I like melodic rock, but I'm pretty fussy with it, and I don't really like the melodic metal. I just feel like I'm listening to power metal (not that there's anything wrong with that either). The mix/production isn't all too great either.

I can't wait for the Fergie Frederiksen one to come out already, dangit.

I get that. I'm the opposite. I'm not a fan of the pink n fluffy AOR- the highly polished, keyboard dominated stuff. I like a little steel with my melody.
Not noticed anything wrong with the production/mix of the MK, but then again I'm listening on the mp3 player or in the car.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 14, 2013, 08:58:36 AM
Blah, and I'm already out. Sorry.
Nothing wrong with it, I just don't like the metal stuff. It just does absolutely nothing at all for me. I like melodic rock, but I'm pretty fussy with it, and I don't really like the melodic metal. I just feel like I'm listening to power metal (not that there's anything wrong with that either). The mix/production isn't all too great either.

I can't wait for the Fergie Frederiksen one to come out already, dangit.

I get that. I'm the opposite. I'm not a fan of the pink n fluffy AOR- the highly polished, keyboard dominated stuff. I like a little steel with my melody.

Oh believe me, I totally get that a lot of people aren't going to dig the fluff '80s stuff. :lol There is a limit to just how wimpy I like, but I definitely lean more towards the softer keyboard-driven side than the metal side. I do like it to have some balls, but rock balls, rather than metal balls. Just different strokes, that's all.
As I said, there wasn't anything wrong with the album, it's just not what *I* like in the genre. But I'm a super fussy bastard, so I don't mean to rain on the parade or anything!  :blush
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2013, 04:28:13 PM
You're a hard man Blob, but you like what you like.  Magnus' stuff is very different to any other AOR, it's definitely more metal.  I've never had an issue with the production on any of his albums though, it's always been top notch.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 19, 2013, 05:43:47 AM
Just received Freefall tonight and have just listened to it for the first time.  Wow, it really is something special.  Magnus sure did an incredible job writing songs for the singers.  The only thing I will say is that it is a little overproduced and compressed and some songs are mixed a bit too loud.

But the songs and performances are incredible.  Freefall is amazing and Russell is just superb and the solo in this track is jaw dropping.  Ralf sang really really well, probably better than he has for quite some time.  Magnus' songs are good and his voice is actually really good.  The Mark Boals song was incredible and I was impressed with Fighting, Herman is a good singer.  The song with Mike Andersson is great and the solo section in this song made me punch the air, on first listen the most outstanding part of the whole record.

Album of the year material.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 19, 2013, 06:01:26 AM
Summed that up pretty well, Kade. Excellent album. Have you got the Masterplan yet? That's up there too. I really like it. Been some good albums out in the last few weeks.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 19, 2013, 06:26:39 AM
Should receive it any day now.  Loved Rik's track on Freefall so I think he definitely will be a fine replacement for Jorn.

Also received the new Jorn, it's 10:30 on a weeknight and I'm on the second last song so after the first listen it was a bit of a blur, but it seems alright.  Some fresh stuff in there with Trond but nothing groundbreaking either.  The main thing that threw me was the shameless Dio rip off in the first couple of songs.  Couldn't get past that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 19, 2013, 07:00:32 AM
Should receive it any day now.  Loved Rik's track on Freefall so I think he definitely will be a fine replacement for Jorn.

Also received the new Jorn, it's 10:30 on a weeknight and I'm on the second last song so after the first listen it was a bit of a blur, but it seems alright.  Some fresh stuff in there with Trond but nothing groundbreaking either.  The main thing that threw me was the shameless Dio rip off in the first couple of songs.  Couldn't get past that.

I'm sure he thinks he is Dio. It's an ok album, probably better than his last couple, but he doesn't excite me and I don't love his voice as others seem to. He sounds better on other people's stuff (Allen/Lande, Avantasia, Masterplan, Millenium, Ark) than his own.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 19, 2013, 07:09:18 AM
Should receive it any day now.  Loved Rik's track on Freefall so I think he definitely will be a fine replacement for Jorn.

Also received the new Jorn, it's 10:30 on a weeknight and I'm on the second last song so after the first listen it was a bit of a blur, but it seems alright.  Some fresh stuff in there with Trond but nothing groundbreaking either.  The main thing that threw me was the shameless Dio rip off in the first couple of songs.  Couldn't get past that.

I'm sure he thinks he is Dio. It's an ok album, probably better than his last couple, but he doesn't excite me and I don't love his voice as others seem to. He sounds better on other people's stuff (Allen/Lande, Avantasia, Masterplan, Millenium, Ark) than his own.

Yeah, I'd probably agree with that.  It's good and definitely better than the last couple but year, definitely more listens.  Also the last track is quite laughable in the lyrics.  He already did a whole album tribute to Dio and now another song?  Come on Jorn, we know he's your idol ,you don't need to shove it down our throats. 

I will say, the guitar work is really goodon the album though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 19, 2013, 07:24:55 AM
Should receive it any day now.  Loved Rik's track on Freefall so I think he definitely will be a fine replacement for Jorn.

Also received the new Jorn, it's 10:30 on a weeknight and I'm on the second last song so after the first listen it was a bit of a blur, but it seems alright.  Some fresh stuff in there with Trond but nothing groundbreaking either.  The main thing that threw me was the shameless Dio rip off in the first couple of songs.  Couldn't get past that.

I'm sure he thinks he is Dio. It's an ok album, probably better than his last couple, but he doesn't excite me and I don't love his voice as others seem to. He sounds better on other people's stuff (Allen/Lande, Avantasia, Masterplan, Millenium, Ark) than his own.

Yeah, I'd probably agree with that.  It's good and definitely better than the last couple but year, definitely more listens.  Also the last track is quite laughable in the lyrics.  He already did a whole album tribute to Dio and now another song?  Come on Jorn, we know he's your idol ,you don't need to shove it down our throats. 

I will say, the guitar work is really goodon the album though.

Teeny is a very good player and good songwriter. WigWam are pretty good. It's not all killer but a decent percentage is. Just don't start with Wall Street, their last album. WigWamania is the place to start.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 19, 2013, 07:27:57 AM
Yeah I might check them out.

Just finishing my second listen of Freefall before bed, and yeah, this is some really good shit.  Great songs and solid playing and performances.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 20, 2013, 04:10:39 AM
The new Robin Beck album sounds really good ina very AOR style. She's still hot too.  :heart Maybe you young'uns won't agree  :biggrin:

This is the epk for the album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kQetaxVr3U&feature=player_embedded#at=105

Her Trouble Or Nothn' album was excellent back in the day. On the poppier side ogf my taste but I did love it. Will have to dig it out now we're having a summer here in the UK.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 20, 2013, 05:55:25 AM
Never checked her out.  I know it sounds a bit sexist but I'm not the biggest fan of female vocalists.  It sounds okay but not really my style.

She's hot though.  I love my women around this age.  :lol  I'd fuck the shit out of her.

Also was that a pic of Tommy Denander I saw there, he's the boss.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 20, 2013, 07:12:35 AM
Never checked her out.  I know it sounds a bit sexist but I'm not the biggest fan of female vocalists.  It sounds okay but not really my style.

She's hot though.  I love my women around this age.  :lol  I'd fuck the shit out of her.

Also was that a pic of Tommy Denander I saw there, he's the boss.

I'd be very surprised if TD is not on the album  :biggrin: I expect the House of Lords guys are probably on there. Robin is married to James Christian, the lucky git.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 20, 2013, 08:27:35 AM
Never heard of her before. She's no Lee Aaron, but I'd get "underneath" her.  :heybaby:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 20, 2013, 08:32:54 AM
Never heard of her before. She's no Lee Aaron, but I'd get "underneath" her.  :heybaby:

Never rated Lee AAaron, musically or otherwise. I'll keep my Robin Beck thanks!  :biggrin: She did the Coke advert song in the 80s, First Time.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 20, 2013, 08:35:03 AM
Aaron is great ... Grew up in my city. Very similar looking to Robin.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 20, 2013, 08:42:04 AM
Aaron is great ... Grew up in my city. Very similar looking to Robin.

She was a bit weird looking to me. But I'm very picky  :biggrin: Now Shania? That's a Canadian I'd like to spend the cold winter with  :heart
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 20, 2013, 10:35:08 PM
Aaron is great ... Grew up in my city. Very similar looking to Robin.

She was a bit weird looking to me. But I'm very picky  :biggrin: Now Shania? That's a Canadian I'd like to spend the cold winter with  :heart

A 'Long Cold Winter'?   :lol

Back on topic ... Just had a mini Harry Hess-a-thon; First Signal (s/t) and under his own name, Livng In Yesterday. Tomorrow, some Harem. Gonna see them in 2 weeks!  Can't wait for the re-recording of Mood Swings.

Blob, those first two are some quality rock albums you'd probably dig.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on June 21, 2013, 08:08:45 AM
Aaron is great ... Grew up in my city. Very similar looking to Robin.

She was a bit weird looking to me. But I'm very picky  :biggrin: Now Shania? That's a Canadian I'd like to spend the cold winter with  :heart

A 'Long Cold Winter'?   :lol

Back on topic ... Just had a mini Harry Hess-a-thon; First Signal (s/t) and under his own name, Livng In Yesterday. Tomorrow, some Harem. Gonna see them in 2 weeks!  Can't wait for the re-recording of Mood Swings.

Blob, those first two are some quality rock albums you'd probably dig.

What's the latest on the re recording of Mood Swings? Is it expected to be out this year?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 21, 2013, 09:46:53 AM
Pete was recording the guitars about a month or so ago.  I believe they lad down all the vocals back in May. I suspect the drums too, as Darren was doing the vocals with Harry.

That's the latest I'd heard. They haven't been giving too many updates.  I suspect (hope) they may mention something at the show.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 21, 2013, 01:03:30 PM
Apparently, Darren Smith (Harem Scarem drummer) is the lead vocalist for Jake E Lee's new band, Red Dragon Cartel. Jake is one of my favourite guitarists so hoping for great things but not expecting much after such a long lay off.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on June 21, 2013, 04:01:32 PM
Pete was recording the guitars about a month or so ago.  I believe they lad down all the vocals back in May. I suspect the drums too, as Darren was doing the vocals with Harry.

That's the latest I'd heard. They haven't been giving too many updates.  I suspect (hope) they may mention something at the show.

cool, let me know if they mention something at the show.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 22, 2013, 08:15:26 AM
Apparently, Darren Smith (Harem Scarem drummer) is the lead vocalist for Jake E Lee's new band, Red Dragon Cartel. Jake is one of my favourite guitarists so hoping for great things but not expecting much after such a long lay off.

Yeah, I saw that on FB earlier this week.  I don't think he's acting as HS's current drummer - that he's doing with a band called WarMachine.... A much more metal band - worth checking out. They opened for QR when I saw them back in March.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2013, 04:39:58 AM
Man, I love Jake E Lee, I'll need to check that out. 

Looking forward to the Mood Swings re-recording too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2013, 05:09:32 AM
New FM song is killer, terrific ballad, should be a smash hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MzTjy4047o
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 23, 2013, 09:20:28 AM
The lineup for the Harem Scarem show I'm going to in a couple of weeks looks like this:

Heaven's Fire
WarMachine
Harem Scarem

Finally found some info on Heaven's Fire... there are a couple bands with this name.  The one that's playing this show, Darren is lead singer.  He's drummer for WarMachine, and I'm not sure if he's drumming for HS that night or if they have someone else in mind.  Either way, he's gonna be a busy camper that night.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 23, 2013, 05:45:54 PM
I think I remember reading from the press release that he was officially back in the new Harem Scarem lineup.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 25, 2013, 06:45:12 PM
(https://www.israbox.com/uploads/posts/2013-05/1369427390_powerworld_-_cybersteria__2013_.jpg)

You may recognize the band name, as Andrew "Mac" McDermott was the lead singer for their second album, Human Parasite.  Mac was the was the lead for Threshold for the six albums up to Dead Reckoning (Mac died a couple of years ago from kidney failure).  Well, they just released their third album a couple weeks ago.  Sorry to do this to you guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb5UdggQGIs

I've got the CD on order... which I did about 40 seconds after hearing this track.

Their first two albums are pretty tight too - especially Human Parasite (that's the one with Mac on the mic).
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 25, 2013, 06:55:14 PM
Bro, slow down on the cd's, I thought I was crazy.  I've heard the name but never checked them out.  Still a shame about Mac too.

To be honest though, that song didn't do anything for me at all.  I guess I'm just keeping my standards really high to try and cut down on the spending.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 26, 2013, 02:23:59 AM
I enjoyed that Powerworld album, and the one before- nothing earth shattering but decent and enjoyable. Not sure I'd buy it but worth a listen on spotify.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2013, 04:30:42 AM
https://www.melodicrock.com/

HAREM SCAREM UPDATE:
Harem Scarem will release Mood Swings II in Japan in August and rest of the world in September via Frontiers Records. It will be released in Japan August 21 is two versions - regular and SHM-CD Limited Edition with bonus 'making of' DVD. Both versions can be pre-ordered via CD Japan. Rest of the world release details soon...

UPDATE: Harry was kind enough to confirm that the entire Mood Swings record has been recreated, re-recorded by Harem Scarem over the last few months. And the three bonus tracks are brand new, freshly written and recorded songs for the occasion.
The 3 track titles are: World Gone To Pieces, Anarchy and Brighter Day.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 27, 2013, 05:43:34 AM
:footloose:

I hope they play one or more of those new tracks in 2 weeks.  :caffeine:

Pre-order will be made as soon as it can be.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2013, 05:49:08 AM
Yeah, I'm loving this too.  Mood Swings was one of my best discoveries in the last few years (thanks to yourself my good friend) and the original is terrific, but I'm looking forward to this new version.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 27, 2013, 04:15:56 PM
Moving away briefly from the HS topic, just listening to the Jorn Starfire album for the first time and Jesus, it's a different guy!!! He does not sing like that anymore. Very good album too and a long way from his metal of today.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2013, 04:19:51 PM
Starfire is a great AOR melodic rock record, I really like it, even though half the album is covers its solid.  Jorn's material definitely has become pretty generic and stale compared to the likes of Starfire.

Have you heard Worldchanger and Out To Every Nation?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 27, 2013, 04:27:53 PM
Starfire is a great AOR melodic rock record, I really like it, even though half the album is covers its solid.  Jorn's material definitely has become pretty generic and stale compared to the likes of Starfire.

Have you heard Worldchanger and Out To Every Nation?

Yeah, got both of those Kade. They are more what I expect from Jorn so the AORstuff was a surprise. II know he's done the Whitesnale-y stuff before- Snakes In Paradise was it?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on June 28, 2013, 02:42:33 AM
https://www.melodicrock.com/

HAREM SCAREM UPDATE:
Harem Scarem will release Mood Swings II in Japan in August and rest of the world in September via Frontiers Records. It will be released in Japan August 21 is two versions - regular and SHM-CD Limited Edition with bonus 'making of' DVD. Both versions can be pre-ordered via CD Japan. Rest of the world release details soon...

UPDATE: Harry was kind enough to confirm that the entire Mood Swings record has been recreated, re-recorded by Harem Scarem over the last few months. And the three bonus tracks are brand new, freshly written and recorded songs for the occasion.
The 3 track titles are: World Gone To Pieces, Anarchy and Brighter Day.


Very interested in hearing this
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2013, 03:56:20 AM
Starfire is a great AOR melodic rock record, I really like it, even though half the album is covers its solid.  Jorn's material definitely has become pretty generic and stale compared to the likes of Starfire.

Have you heard Worldchanger and Out To Every Nation?

Yeah, got both of those Kade. They are more what I expect from Jorn so the AORstuff was a surprise. II know he's done the Whitesnale-y stuff before- Snakes In Paradise was it?

Yeah, I never checked out the album he did with The Snakes.  I think up to The Duke, Jorn was the shit, but after that, it's just been going down.

Also, another good Jorn one is The Hourglass by Millenium.  It has Jorn and Ralph Santolla, really good melodic rock record.

Also, going back to Starfire, the Journey and Foreigner covers are especially fantastic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 28, 2013, 10:06:12 AM
Starfire is a great AOR melodic rock record, I really like it, even though half the album is covers its solid.  Jorn's material definitely has become pretty generic and stale compared to the likes of Starfire.

Have you heard Worldchanger and Out To Every Nation?

Yeah, got both of those Kade. They are more what I expect from Jorn so the AORstuff was a surprise. II know he's done the Whitesnale-y stuff before- Snakes In Paradise was it?

Yeah, I never checked out the album he did with The Snakes.  I think up to The Duke, Jorn was the shit, but after that, it's just been going down.

Also, another good Jorn one is The Hourglass by Millenium.  It has Jorn and Ralph Santolla, really good melodic rock record.

Also, going back to Starfire, the Journey and Foreigner covers are especially fantastic.

Yeah I like Millenium. Preferred Santolla's earlier band, Eyewitness, though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2013, 04:11:51 PM
Never heard of that band, another one to check out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 29, 2013, 11:28:33 AM
Never heard of that band, another one to check out.

Indeed it is. They do a decent cover of UFO's Only You Can Rock Me and a Zeno song. If you like Millienium it's pretty similar.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2013, 04:29:20 AM
This is absolutely incredible.  Find Me - Road to Nowhere (Robbie from Blanc Faces and Daniel Flores)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vln92rKzvgw

WOW!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 01, 2013, 04:37:32 AM
Generic, but I liked it, and I loved the vocals.
Even though the Youtube quality was crap, it sounded like the typical modern cheap metallish sounding production that always puts me off though. :(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2013, 04:41:33 AM
I think the quality of the youtube clip wasn't very good.  Hopefully the production makes it shine, but I love this song, Robbie's vocals are amazing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 01, 2013, 04:43:50 AM
Agreed on the vocals. Any other albums he's on I might be interested in? I'm very fussy with vocals, and in this genre especially it can be make or break, and this guy makes it.

Even from that Youtube clip, it sounded like the thin metal sounding guitar sound, and triggered metal drums. Why is it that the best sounding albums are all over 20 years old?!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2013, 05:13:25 AM
He's from a band Blanc Faces which he plays with his brother in.  Their debut is good but their second album is even better, it's called Falling From the Moon.  It's pretty light, but has great vox and the songs have some nice melodies.  Here's the title track;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qACZAcyq0pI
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 09, 2013, 09:49:20 AM
Mood Swings II samples (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYhmxxnMlSI)

Sounds great.  But given the original is a Top 12 album of all time for me - and likely has over 100 listens - this will take a little adjusting.

3 days till I see them live!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 09, 2013, 11:46:53 AM
Sounds really good!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 09, 2013, 11:58:47 AM
Mood Swings II samples (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYhmxxnMlSI)

Sounds great.  But given the original is a Top 12 album of all time for me - and likely has over 100 listens - this will take a little adjusting.

3 days till I see them live!

You are being spoilt at the moment. Saw them at Firefest a few years ago. They were very good.
Schenker for me next week.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 09, 2013, 02:01:23 PM
You are being spoilt at the moment. Saw them at Firefest a few years ago. They were very good.
Schenker for me next week.

Yes I am... Rush, Avantasia and Harem all within 6 days of each other.

Best. Concert. Week. Ever.

:booyah:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 09, 2013, 03:33:21 PM
Mood Swings II samples (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYhmxxnMlSI)

Sounds great.  But given the original is a Top 12 album of all time for me - and likely has over 100 listens - this will take a little adjusting.

3 days till I see them live!

Sounds pretty good, but definitely will need some getting used to.  The new tracks sounds quite good too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 13, 2013, 04:40:47 PM
What an awesome show last night.  Little club about 20 minutes from my place, and no more than a couple hundred people. 

Four bands, three of which I'm totally in to.  Got there early enough to park myself right up front.  Warmachine was great, talked with their lead singer/creator a bit.  Heavens Fire was REALLY good (bought their 2013 CD on the spot... knew I would).  Harem came on about 12:45am, and ended up having to cut their set short by a couple of songs (Weight of the World and Empty Promises got the axe).

Setlist:
Saviors Never Cry
Dagger
Hard to Love
If There Was A Time
Sentimental Blvd
Honestly
Slowly Slipping Away
Karma Cleansing
Stranger Than Love
Weight of the World
Empty Promises

Had Enough
----- Encore -----
No Justice (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152054380677067&set=vb.599152066&type=2&theater) (got 90 seconds)
Change Comes Around

I tell you, they had no rust on them.  They were tight, didn't appear to miss anything, and all performed and sounded spot on.  Paul... you gotta see them when they headline Firefest.  JJ, ditto on MelodicRockFest... Chicago ain't too far from you!


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/32629_10152054317927067_1146512126_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/164668_10152054303652067_1471612119_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/971136_10152054317862067_1045841145_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1069931_10152054399442067_1468317807_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1070074_10152054317977067_352546091_n.jpg)


Met Darren before the show

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1000135_10152054303637067_727056023_n.jpg)

And Pete afterwards

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1012361_10152054294767067_948174977_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 13, 2013, 06:51:15 PM
awesome!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 14, 2013, 02:31:25 AM
Saw them when they played Firefest a few years ago. They were great. There's just not enough on the bill this time for me to justify the money.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 14, 2013, 03:43:56 AM
Fucking sick.  Great photos too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 14, 2013, 09:26:56 AM
Saw them when they played Firefest a few years ago. They were great. There's just not enough on the bill this time for me to justify the money.

You gotta be shittin me!!  The Friday night bill had me considering making the flight!!

Harem Scarem
Dare (don't know them)
W.E.T.
Work of Art
Eden's Curse
The Magnificent

Saturday.... Hardline alone would get me to get a ticket.  Not so sure about the Sunday lineup... other than the "Legends" act (JLT, Martin and Frederikson), and Eclipse there isn't much there I know.  Brighton Rock ain't too bad, but they never hit it too big.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on July 14, 2013, 01:57:36 PM
The Magnificent is touring still?! :caffeine:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 14, 2013, 02:13:32 PM
Saw them when they played Firefest a few years ago. They were great. There's just not enough on the bill this time for me to justify the money.

You gotta be shittin me!!  The Friday night bill had me considering making the flight!!

Harem Scarem
Dare (don't know them)
W.E.T.
Work of Art
Eden's Curse
The Magnificent

Saturday.... Hardline alone would get me to get a ticket.  Not so sure about the Sunday lineup... other than the "Legends" act (JLT, Martin and Frederikson), and Eclipse there isn't much there I know.  Brighton Rock ain't too bad, but they never hit it too big.

Harem Scarem- saw them last time they played Firefest- no new material since then.

Dare (don't know them)- saw them at Firefest - bored me to tears tbh

W.E.T.- First album was great, second was predictable and a bit boring. Eric Martensson overload has been reached. JSS is always good though. Saw him in a tiny pub in Wigan at Halloween a few years ago. Absolutely tore the place up and nicked my beer mid song too!

Work of Art- not for me. too polished.

Eden's Curse- have they even got a singer? Saw them supporting DT a couple of years ago and they were ok, even with the crap (mental) singer. Not fussed about seeing them again.

The Magnificent- one pretty good album. I don't rate it as highly as some.

Saturday's lineup is better, though I've never heard of Shooting star and how are they so high on that bill?

Treat (saw them at Firefest too, awesome.
Heaven's Edge- 2 great albums.
Nation- 1 great album and the new video shows promise.
Trixter- Hmm, not bad
Hardline- Seen them twice (1st time with Schon supporting Extreme I think, 2nd time at The Gods festival- the forerunner of Firefest)

Just can't afford to go. Simple as that.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 14, 2013, 02:50:23 PM
Yeah, I have no idea who is singing for Eden's Curse, as far as I know they still don't have a singer.  I'd love to go for that lineup for sure, but I will never get the chance to see any of those bands so.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 17, 2013, 03:59:51 PM
New Coney Hatch samples. Hmm. Not too promising tbh. my mate Phil at Fireworks mag loves the band  but was a bit underwhelmed by the album. Still, only 4 samples. I'll give it a listen before committing I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaX7gLnhuFY&feature=youtu.be&a

Listening to the first two albums now.  :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2013, 08:46:34 PM
Never really got into them, but I liked the old stuff of what I heard.  These samples do nothing for me at all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 18, 2013, 12:03:21 PM
Never really got into them, but I liked the old stuff of what I heard.  These samples do nothing for me at all.

Don't Say Make Me is one of my favourite songs of all time. I'll have to make that list one day, but the top 50 albums one was hard enough.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Jaq on July 18, 2013, 12:51:50 PM
I was into Coney Hatch in the 80s but those samples flat out bored me.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 18, 2013, 01:06:28 PM
I was into Coney Hatch in the 80s but those samples flat out bored me.  :lol

Yeah it's not looking good.  :sad:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2013, 05:48:06 AM
Quote
Eden's Curse have announced their new lineup today!
Check out this video, and skip to 8:40 to listen to a 90-second snippet of the upcoming single. Album "Symphony Of Sin" to hit the stores on October 4th!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epji9f5lKzs

Coolio.  As soon as I heard the new singer's name, I'm like 'where do I know that name?'... Thankfully, Metal-Archives reminded me that I just got the Expedition:Delta CD last week.  He's got a nice smooth voice.

And Blabbermouth's announcement - https://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=192690

Looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2013, 06:44:02 AM
Love this band.  New song and singer sounds solid enough.  Hopefully he sticks around for a while.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 19, 2013, 08:37:22 AM
Looking forward to the new album- have been for a long old time it seems  :biggrin:

Michael Eden, as well as being a nutter, was the weak link for me. Glad he's gone.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2013, 08:39:04 AM
Looking forward to the new album- have been for a long old time it seems  :biggrin:

Michael Eden, as well as being a nutter, was the weak link for me. Glad he's gone.

I guess, for you, he was the curse.  :lhk:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 19, 2013, 09:51:18 PM
Ok, so on the heels of that Eden's Curse update, Michael Eden (who friend requested me on FB a few days ago??) posted this update.  Not knowing the breakup history, I'm not really down with this drama.  Even posted that on his FB feed... enough with the QR-like drama.  Is it me, or is he coming across as douchey as Tate?

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I've been smacked hard with questions and comments about the "overseas band" - If you have received no reply it's because I'm making a statement here that I'm sure will be copy and pasted around the net because people in their camp love drama. People will have a field day twisting my words as they always do.

Make no mistake.......... I was the founding member of the band with their bass player!

The bass player and I are the only two people that founded Eden's Curse! To say the others are original founding members is utter and complete bullshit. I chose them one by one with the bass player. The pathetic attempt at re-writing history is their attempt at credibility and it's an epic fail in every sense of the word.

As far as the make up, brushes, eye liner, painted nails go.......You gotta change an image when you got no game left. It's as simple as that.

I have no comment about the singer or the song. All I will say about the keyboard player is that he tried out for the band for the 3rd album and did not make the cut! I have his demo playing Angels & Demons and NOBODY was happy with it! Enough said! I know.......People don't like the truth. Well, honesty is the best policy!

I'm ONLY concerned with my version of the band. It's the version that will retain the wall of sound and melodies that the fans have come to expect. The songs you are humming along to for days. The lyrics that inspire and make you think. Trinity is a lot to live up to. I'm not trying to out do Trinity! I'm trying to out do myself!!!!!

WE will not be creating music with an idea to re-invent the wheel. If you loved the first two albums with hints of the third you'll love what is being planned.

This life is far too short to fight with people and expect them to change, when they feel they are in the right.

I'm the guy who the fans are cheering on. I hear you guys. I will make sure when the time comes that EDEN'S CURSE gives you what you are expecting. NOTHING less will be acceptable! Thanks for all your support!! \m/
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 20, 2013, 06:18:14 AM
Ok, so on the heels of that Eden's Curse update, Michael Eden (who friend requested me on FB a few days ago??) posted this update.  Not knowing the breakup history, I'm not really down with this drama.  Even posted that on his FB feed... enough with the QR-like drama.  Is it me, or is he coming across as douchey as Tate?

Quote
I've been smacked hard with questions and comments about the "overseas band" - If you have received no reply it's because I'm making a statement here that I'm sure will be copy and pasted around the net because people in their camp love drama. People will have a field day twisting my words as they always do.

Make no mistake.......... I was the founding member of the band with their bass player!

The bass player and I are the only two people that founded Eden's Curse! To say the others are original founding members is utter and complete bullshit. I chose them one by one with the bass player. The pathetic attempt at re-writing history is their attempt at credibility and it's an epic fail in every sense of the word.

As far as the make up, brushes, eye liner, painted nails go.......You gotta change an image when you got no game left. It's as simple as that.

I have no comment about the singer or the song. All I will say about the keyboard player is that he tried out for the band for the 3rd album and did not make the cut! I have his demo playing Angels & Demons and NOBODY was happy with it! Enough said! I know.......People don't like the truth. Well, honesty is the best policy!

I'm ONLY concerned with my version of the band. It's the version that will retain the wall of sound and melodies that the fans have come to expect. The songs you are humming along to for days. The lyrics that inspire and make you think. Trinity is a lot to live up to. I'm not trying to out do Trinity! I'm trying to out do myself!!!!!

WE will not be creating music with an idea to re-invent the wheel. If you loved the first two albums with hints of the third you'll love what is being planned.

This life is far too short to fight with people and expect them to change, when they feel they are in the right.

I'm the guy who the fans are cheering on. I hear you guys. I will make sure when the time comes that EDEN'S CURSE gives you what you are expecting. NOTHING less will be acceptable! Thanks for all your support!! \m/

Tate is just an narcisist/egotist - Eden is a whole other form of nutter. Don't upset him though or he'll track you down with his glock. Melodicrock.com was kept entertained by his rantings for a good while. It was great reading.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 20, 2013, 06:32:32 AM
Too bad I missed it!  Woke up this morning to find he deleted my comment from his thread.  Yeah, not impressed by a dude that can't even take a MILD piece of criticism like "Don't be like Tate, let the music speak for itself".

Unfriended.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 20, 2013, 08:29:11 AM
Too bad I missed it!  Woke up this morning to find he deleted my comment from his thread.  Yeah, not impressed by a dude that can't even take a MILD piece of criticism like "Don't be like Tate, let the music speak for itself".

Unfriended.

I would call it a lucky escape.  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 21, 2013, 04:04:30 AM
Too bad I missed it!  Woke up this morning to find he deleted my comment from his thread.  Yeah, not impressed by a dude that can't even take a MILD piece of criticism like "Don't be like Tate, let the music speak for itself".

Unfriended.

I must have somehow missed all the drama too, weird.  Anyway, I had no idea he is making his own version of the band, seems rediculous without Paul or Thoreston though.  It's not like too many people give a shit about this band anyway to warrant this amount of bickering and drama.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 31, 2013, 10:44:44 AM
Damn!  Page 3.  Well, this seems important enough.

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Frontiers Records is pleased to announce that the new PLACE VENDOME album is close to completion. The title of this new recording will be "Thunder In The Distance" and like all the previous releases, sees singer Michael Kiske (former HELLOWEEN) singing on tracks produced and mixed by Dennis Ward (PINK CREAM 69) which were written especially for the album by different writers including: Magnus Karlsson (Primal Fear), Timo Tolkki (ex Stratovarius), Alessandro Del Vecchio (Hardline), Tommy Denander (Radioactive), Sren Kronqvist (Sunstorm, Issa), Andrea Cantarelli (Labyrinth, A Perfect Day) and Brett Jones under the supervision of executive producer Serafino Perugino.

Didn't even know they was something in the works.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 31, 2013, 10:45:26 AM
Quoting myself form elsewhere.

YES. The first two were great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 31, 2013, 11:19:21 AM
Damn!  Page 3.  Well, this seems important enough.

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Frontiers Records is pleased to announce that the new PLACE VENDOME album is close to completion. The title of this new recording will be "Thunder In The Distance" and like all the previous releases, sees singer Michael Kiske (former HELLOWEEN) singing on tracks produced and mixed by Dennis Ward (PINK CREAM 69) which were written especially for the album by different writers including: Magnus Karlsson (Primal Fear), Timo Tolkki (ex Stratovarius), Alessandro Del Vecchio (Hardline), Tommy Denander (Radioactive), Sren Kronqvist (Sunstorm, Issa), Andrea Cantarelli (Labyrinth, A Perfect Day) and Brett Jones under the supervision of executive producer Serafino Perugino.

Didn't even know they was something in the works.

Good news. That first album was something special.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 31, 2013, 11:59:16 AM
Damn!  Page 3.  Well, this seems important enough.

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Frontiers Records is pleased to announce that the new PLACE VENDOME album is close to completion. The title of this new recording will be "Thunder In The Distance" and like all the previous releases, sees singer Michael Kiske (former HELLOWEEN) singing on tracks produced and mixed by Dennis Ward (PINK CREAM 69) which were written especially for the album by different writers including: Magnus Karlsson (Primal Fear), Timo Tolkki (ex Stratovarius), Alessandro Del Vecchio (Hardline), Tommy Denander (Radioactive), Sren Kronqvist (Sunstorm, Issa), Andrea Cantarelli (Labyrinth, A Perfect Day) and Brett Jones under the supervision of executive producer Serafino Perugino.

Didn't even know they was something in the works.

Good news. That first album was something special.

Yes, I saw this earlier. Very excited. The first one is fantastic. The second..not so much.




OK, I need some help.

I've been listening to Joe Lynn Turner on the new Avantasia and I think he sounds great. Is there anything that anyone can recommend of his? I don't think I've had anything new from him since Yngwie's Odyssey. I did try Sunstorm last year and was NOT impressed. I'd be looking for something on the heavy side. Even if it's a track here and there where he made an appearance (similar to Avantasia).
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 31, 2013, 12:02:28 PM
Out of curiosity, what is it you guys like so much about the first Place Vendome record? I find the second one to be much better, personally.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 31, 2013, 12:10:35 PM
Well, it's heavier, for starters. I find the vocal melodies a lot stronger too. I find the songs take better advantage of Kiske's range. Plus Kiske just feels more into it.

The second one has no balls and just sounds like horrible pop radio rock.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 31, 2013, 01:13:25 PM
Damn!  Page 3.  Well, this seems important enough.

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Frontiers Records is pleased to announce that the new PLACE VENDOME album is close to completion. The title of this new recording will be "Thunder In The Distance" and like all the previous releases, sees singer Michael Kiske (former HELLOWEEN) singing on tracks produced and mixed by Dennis Ward (PINK CREAM 69) which were written especially for the album by different writers including: Magnus Karlsson (Primal Fear), Timo Tolkki (ex Stratovarius), Alessandro Del Vecchio (Hardline), Tommy Denander (Radioactive), Sren Kronqvist (Sunstorm, Issa), Andrea Cantarelli (Labyrinth, A Perfect Day) and Brett Jones under the supervision of executive producer Serafino Perugino.

Didn't even know they was something in the works.

Good news. That first album was something special.

Yes, I saw this earlier. Very excited. The first one is fantastic. The second..not so much.




OK, I need some help.

I've been listening to Joe Lynn Turner on the new Avantasia and I think he sounds great. Is there anything that anyone can recommend of his? I don't think I've had anything new from him since Yngwie's Odyssey. I did try Sunstorm last year and was NOT impressed. I'd be looking for something on the heavy side. Even if it's a track here and there where he made an appearance (similar to Avantasia).

In a similar vein to Avantasia (but not as good) is Nicolo Kotzev's Nostradamus rock opera- JLT is very good on that. Also he sings a few songs on Kotzev's Brazen Abbot album Eye Of The Storm- in a heavier vein. He may be on others but that's the only one I have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcxkrTihqE

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 31, 2013, 01:16:44 PM
Well, it's heavier, for starters. I find the vocal melodies a lot stronger too. I find the songs take better advantage of Kiske's range. Plus Kiske just feels more into it.

The second one has no balls and just sounds like horrible pop radio rock.

Eh. I like pop rock, I suppose. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 04, 2013, 02:27:36 PM
Dug this one out of my cassette box today- not listened to it in years. You familiar with this one Chad?

(https://c3.cduniverse.ws/resized/250x500/music/523/4295523.jpg)

Pretty good bluesy 80s style hair metal from Canada. Just a couple of years too late.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 04, 2013, 03:46:05 PM
It's a helluvatime.  But I'm not really sure what the big fuckin deal is.  :neverusethis:

It's a beuat... another one-album wonder (never did grab their second one)... just like Sven Gali and Big House (who ironically opened for Slik Toxik - who opened for Yngvie and Sabbath way back in the 90s).  Saw them live once.  Good gig.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 05, 2013, 03:18:34 AM
It's a helluvatime.  But I'm not really sure what the big fuckin deal is.  :neverusethis:

It's a beuat... another one-album wonder (never did grab their second one)... just like Sven Gali and Big House (who ironically opened for Slik Toxik - who opened for Yngvie and Sabbath way back in the 90s).  Saw them live once.  Good gig.

Thought you would know them.
I only have the album on a cassette a mate did for me. Just ordered the cd from Amazon.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 07, 2013, 04:59:31 AM
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Multinational Melodic Metallers Eden's Curse return with their highly anticipated brand new fourth studio album "Symphony Of Sin", due October 4th on AFM Records.

Produced by Paul Logue and mixed and mastered by the groups long term engineer, Pink Cream 69 and Unisonic bassist, Dennis Ward, "Symphony Of Sin" is the first release with new Serbian vocalist Nikola Mijic (Alogia/Dreyelands) and former Powerquest mainman and keyboarder Steve Williams, alongside original members Paul Logue, Thorsten Koehne & Pete Newdeck.

Tracklisting :

1. Symphony Of Sin
2. Break The Silence
3. Evil & Divine
4. Unbreakable
5. Fallen From Grace
6. Losing My Faith
7. Rock Bottom
8. Great Unknown
9. Turn The Page
10. Sign Of The Cross
11. Wings To Fly
12. Devil In Disguise
13. Where Is The Love?

The album artwork was created again by another of the groups long term collaborators, Thomas Ewerhard (Edguy, Avantasia, Jorn), and marks the return of a familar face in "Eve" who graced the bands debut album cover.

"Symphony Of Sin" will be preceded by a single and promo video for "Evil & Divine" on September 12th.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/61241_10152582995238306_2023029230_n.jpg)

And now we anxiously await Michael's retort.   :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 07, 2013, 05:45:47 AM
Looking forward to this.  The chicks tits look a little off.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2013, 04:35:41 AM
Looks like Fergie Frederiksen's cancer is playing up again.

Our father, Dennis ( Fergie ) Frederiksen has taken a turn for the worst in his battle with cancer. At this time we are awaiting a full prognosis of his condition.. We are asking for donations to help our father stay in his apartment, as well as help with everyday living costs ( Food, Rent, Medications, ect.. ). Any and all donations will help my father worry less about everyday living and focus on beating the cancer so he may get back to what he loves to do.. Performing and seeing his friends all over the world.


Thank you in advanced for any donations, prayers, and positive thoughts.

Kyler Frederiksen
Kolten Frederiksen
Danny Irwin


Man, Looks like he's doing it tough.

https://www.gofundme.com/3ydgpo

I donated $50 US dollars to it.  I feel good about myself at the moment.  Hopefully all goes well and look forward to his new album too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 01, 2013, 04:50:41 AM
That sucks. :(
I just got his new album, and really enjoying it. Excellent mixing/mastering, and I like the songwriting style. Hopefully he can continue to share his music.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 02, 2013, 08:45:35 PM
Wow... gonna have to investigate this one!!!!!  Stumbled across this on FB tonight.

Rage Of Angels is the brainchild of Ged Rylands (Ten) and their very impressive debut release "Dreamworld" (Escape Music) features some very impressive names indeed, namely Ged himself, Harry Hess (Harem Scarem), Ralf Scheepers (Primal Fear), Matti Alfonzetti (Jagged Edge), Danny Vaughn (Tyketto), Robert Hart (Bad Company), Vinny Burns (Ten,Asia,Ultravox), Neil Fraser (Ten), Tommy Denander and Ralph Santolla (Deicide,Obituary,Iced Earth).

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/382158_570684732965711_394575020_n.jpg)


How have I never heard of this before??  Album was released last Feb!  Love Ten!  Love Harem!  Love Ralf! 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 03, 2013, 01:24:03 AM
Wow... gonna have to investigate this one!!!!!  Stumbled across this on FB tonight.

Rage Of Angels is the brainchild of Ged Rylands (Ten) and their very impressive debut release "Dreamworld" (Escape Music) features some very impressive names indeed, namely Ged himself, Harry Hess (Harem Scarem), Ralf Scheepers (Primal Fear), Matti Alfonzetti (Jagged Edge), Danny Vaughn (Tyketto), Robert Hart (Bad Company), Vinny Burns (Ten,Asia,Ultravox), Neil Fraser (Ten), Tommy Denander and Ralph Santolla (Deicide,Obituary,Iced Earth).

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/382158_570684732965711_394575020_n.jpg)


How have I never heard of this before??  Album was released last Feb!  Love Ten!  Love Harem!  Love Ralf!

Think I heard this on Spotify- can't remember much but will have another look. There's just too much music sometimes  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 03, 2013, 04:41:26 AM
Sometimes!?!?!?!?!?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 03, 2013, 05:14:23 AM
Yeah, I think I checked that out too.  Can't remember much, will have to go back also.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 03, 2013, 05:30:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-Bfyv6LXZc

MICHAEL KISKE RETURNS TO PLACE VENDOME WITH ANOTHER MELODIC ROCK MASTERPIECE:
Frontiers Records is pleased to announce the release of the much anticipated third album from Place Vendome entitled Thunder in the Distance on November 1 in Europe and November 5 in North America.
Place Vendome is the Melodic Rock project featuring Unisonic and former Helloween singer Michael Kiske on all lead vocals and production from Dennis Ward (Pink Cream 69).
Place Vendome started in 2004 when Kiske, following a self-imposed exile from the rock and metal scene which lasted a few years after his departure from Helloween and solo career, accepted in 2004 to be part of a Melodic Rock oriented concept put together by Frontiers Records' President Serafino Perugino.

The resulting Place Vendome debut album brought Kiske back to a more straight ahead and Rock sound, still very accessible and melodic and far from the Heavy Metal stereotypes of blood, violence and hate which Kiske never had anything to do with. He collaborated for the first time with Pink Cream 69's Dennis Ward, Kosta Zafiriou and Uwe Reitenauer with Gunther Werno (Vandenplas) on keyboards. In a quite ironic twist of fate Michael found himself to work with members of Pink Cream 69, when the band's original singer Andy Deris took his place in Helloween when he left.
The very favorable acceptance of the first Place Vendome album planted the seeds for a second recording entitled Streets of Fire, which was produced during 2008. The concept was slightly changed, with some outside writers such as Robert Sll (Work of Art), Ronny Milianowicz (Saint Deamon) and Torsti Spoof (Leverage) handling the bulk of the songwriting, with Dennis Ward still handling the recording and production sessions.
Following his stint with the band Unisonic, Kiske decided to go back once again to the Place Vendome concept with more melodic rock oriented songs which - once again - have been selected by Frontiers Records President Serafino Perugino from outside writers including: Magnus Karlsson (Primal Fear), Timo Tolkki (ex-Stratovarius), Alessandro Del Vecchio (Hardline), Roberto Tiranti and Andrea Cantarelli (Labyrinth, A Perfect Day), Tommy Denander (Radioactive), Sren Kronqvist (Sunstorm, Issa), and Brett Jones.

I am having a very open mind in terms of music anyway, and the Place Vendome vibe is a pretty different approach than Unisonic says Kiske. I like many tracks off the Place Vendome albums, but especially Guardian Angel, Streets Of Fire, I Will Be Waiting, Set Me Free from the previous albums or now Maybe Tomorrow. For me the vocals are the most important part of a song of course.

Dennis Ward once again produced and mixed the whole affair with such musicians as Dirk Bruineberg (Consortium Project), Gunter Werno (Vandenplas) and Uwe Reitenauer (Pink Cream 69) completing the lineup. Another total masterpiece from Kiske and Place Vendome is about to hit the market. A true must for all Melodic Rock fans!
Tracklisting includes: Talk To Me; Power of Music; Broken Wings; Lost in Paradise; It Can't Rain Forever; Fragile Ground; Hold Your Love; Never Too Late; Heaven Lost; My Heart is Dying; Breakout; Maybe Tomorrow; Thunder in the Distance.
Samples of some of the album songs can be listened following this link: youtu.be/s-Bfyv6LXZc.

Place Vendome: Michael Kiske Lead Vocals; Dennis Ward Bass, vocals, rhythm guitars; Dirk Bruineberg Drums; Gunter Werno Keyboards; Uwe Reitenauer Lead guitars.
Mixed and produced by Dennis Ward.


(https://www.melodicrock.com/placevendome-thunderinthedistance.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 03, 2013, 08:51:59 AM
The samples sounds great. Definitely better than the last album, and more on par with the first.

Same release day as LALP!

Is there a masculine way to say that that voice fuc%ing melts me?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 03, 2013, 09:07:31 AM
I've been listening a lot to the new Fergie Frederiksen album, Any Given Moment. Solid stuff. A few stand-out songs, and the rest are still mostly quite good too. Beautiful mix and production, and it's all round very '80s in style, which I prefer to the modern metallish sound a lot seem to be going for. If they could pump out more albums like this, I'd be happy!

Frederiksen's voice sounds great, and some of the lyrics definitely seem to be influenced by his recent battle with cancer, especially the title track.

And there are several keyboard solos on the album too, that sound like Derek Sherinian to me. They're mostly kind of annoying and out of place to me, but the rest of the background keyboard work is great, with a lot of layered piano / hammond organ / '80s synth throughout.

And "Let Go" is the best rewrite of Hold The Line I've heard yet. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2013, 05:04:44 AM
The samples sounds great. Definitely better than the last album, and more on par with the first.

Same release day as LALP!

Is there a masculine way to say that that voice fuc%ing melts me?

??
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Pelata on September 04, 2013, 06:59:09 AM
Anyone here going to MRF3?

https://www.melodicrockfest.com

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 04, 2013, 07:29:23 AM
Anyone here going to MRF3?

https://www.melodicrockfest.com

God, I wish.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 04, 2013, 07:41:19 AM
The samples sounds great. Definitely better than the last album, and more on par with the first.

Same release day as LALP!

Is there a masculine way to say that that voice fuc%ing melts me?

??
Live At Luna Park.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2013, 06:04:48 AM
Of course.  :hat
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 05, 2013, 02:46:57 PM
Just posting to say this is one of my favourite songs of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgIShJXiThQ

Great riff, great vocals, great solo. Class.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 05, 2013, 03:03:18 PM
The guitars under the solo sounds very Schenkerish
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2013, 03:12:37 PM
Just posting to say this is one of my favourite songs of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgIShJXiThQ

Great riff, great vocals, great solo. Class.

That's just an underrated band in general.  Their early stuff was so good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 06, 2013, 11:06:34 AM
Just posting to say this is one of my favourite songs of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgIShJXiThQ

Great riff, great vocals, great solo. Class.

That's just an underrated band in general.  Their early stuff was so good.

I bought all those special editions when Marcel rereleased them a few years ago. They were a band I missed back in the day- they went under the radar even for me but wen I got the best of a few years ago I realised what I'd missed.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 06, 2013, 03:59:02 PM
Yeah, I got the releases too.

Also, just got the Fergie Frederiksen and the new Find Me albums last night in the mail.

The Fergie Frederiksen is a nice piece of AOR, but for me, I would have liked a few more heavier tracks like the opener.

The Find Me is your pretty standard melodic rock fair.  Great vocals, guitars are a bit of a let down for me but the songs are really nice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 06, 2013, 04:28:50 PM
Yeah, I got the releases too.

Also, just got the Fergie Frederiksen and the new Find Me albums last night in the mail.

The Fergie Frederiksen is a nice piece of AOR, but for me, I would have liked a few more heavier tracks like the opener.

The Find Me is your pretty standard melodic rock fair.  Great vocals, guitars are a bit of a let down for me but the songs are really nice.

Probably give both a miss tbh. I'm just not feeling standard by the numbers AOR at the moment. Too many of these Frontiers albums have a decent rocking track as a sampler and then the rest is cliched boring stuff. It's all sounding the same because it's the same guys doing them all.
I've been back in the 80s recently and loving it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 06, 2013, 04:31:35 PM
Yeah, there's nothing really new or grounbreaking with either of them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 06, 2013, 09:05:26 PM
The Fergie Frederiksen is a nice piece of AOR, but for me, I would have liked a few more heavier tracks like the opener.

Me too. I was a little disappointed that it was the most rockin' track on the album (Price for Lovin' You is about the only other "heavier" one, and that's also somewhat light), although I don't really mind. I still think it's a solid album. It's really not a genre I expect to hear new or groundbreaking from, and don't particularly want to either. :lol
I prefer this style a lot more than the generic metal direction of a lot of other albums in the genre these days, so in that regard, it stands out enough to me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2013, 05:52:43 AM
I understand what you are getting at.  Besides me wanting more heavier tracks, the style suits Fergie well, and a lot of the songs are somewhat refreshing as opposed to a lot of the stuff Frontiers have been doing lately.  I just wished they picked a different song to give us a video for.  I feel the Last Battle of My War single was a misleading representation of the album, this is what left me a little disappointed.

The Find Me album I'm digging though.  It's generic but has a lot of good songs, and some great ones from the James and Tom Martin duo.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 13, 2013, 06:22:53 AM
Eden's Curse - Evil and Devine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z24MmgWVQXk

Eh, not bad, but not blowing my socks off.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 13, 2013, 08:14:22 AM
Yeah, caught that the other day.  Liked it... will still be picking the album up.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 13, 2013, 11:16:58 AM
Like the song, not liking the "evil" voice- sounds rather camp
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 13, 2013, 05:06:51 PM
I'm actually torn on the vocals.  He's good, but I don't know, he's not bowling me over.  Seems a bit weak for the music and a little generic.  Will definitely still pick up the album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 28, 2013, 06:46:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDP-HR6RGUQ

DTF's very own Shawn Pelata \t elodicrockfest 3. Awesome vocal.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 29, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDP-HR6RGUQ

DTF's very own Shawn Pelata \t elodicrockfest 3. Awesome vocal.
Wow, that's rally cool! :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 29, 2013, 10:29:08 AM
I really should check out more of their stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 30, 2013, 12:00:50 AM
Has anyone picked up Mood Swings II yet?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 30, 2013, 04:46:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDP-HR6RGUQ

DTF's very own Shawn Pelata \t elodicrockfest 3. Awesome vocal.

This is not bad.


Has anyone picked up Mood Swings II yet?

I should receive my copy in the mail anyday.  Really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 30, 2013, 06:19:04 AM
Has anyone picked up Mood Swings II yet?

It's on order.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2013, 05:21:31 AM
Got my copy of Mood Swings II tonight and I instantly ripped off the wrapper and popped it in for a listen.

First off, the packaging is really nice.  Typical Frontiers CD/DVD digi with great artwork.  The DVD contains in studio documentry about the recording of MS2 and individual stems for the songs Saviors, Justice and Change.  A really nice bonus for musicians and will make me want to learn the songs and play Pete's guitar parts.  Amazing feature, well done.

Now, I've only been a fan of this band for a year or maybe a little longer, mainly due to this very thread and of course, the jingle man.  Mood Swings really was something I was looking for and became an instant classic, that possibly could enter my top 50 very soon.  It feels like I've known the album for years, such an underrated piece.

Now, here's the funny thing about this release, it's really hard to see the point of this.  The songs are performed really well and once you get adjusted to listening to this new version, there's really nothing new here that warrants this at all.  It sounds great but all in all, there's no real improvement but considering the performances and energy of the original, this isn't a let down.  At times things sound a little forced, but really, the band have re-created this almost note for note that at times you think you are listening to a remixed version of the original. 

Now, I'm speaking about the thing as a whole but there are a couple of exceptions.  Mandy has a different feel from Pete and represents his style more these days than his style back in the early days.  I know that sounds weird but musicians might understand what I mean.  Guitarists still sound like guitarists but of course over time, their style changes a little as they progress.  I actually might prefer this version of Mandy.

Darren sounds great on Sentimental Blvd, a bit harder and maybe better than the original.

If There Was A Time is also played the same, but this also has a bit of a different feel.  It's nice.

Just Like I Planned was the only song on Mood Swings that felt a little out of place.  I loved what they did with it and it was a nice feature, but for me it was just a novelty.  This is a completetly different version with Harry, Pete on acoustic and a couple of extra choirs chucked in for good measure.  This version is incredible and I prefer this way more than the original.  Pete's little guitar solo is wonderful too, this version fits so well.  This is what I was looking for a bit more from this release.

The rest (after first listen) are just as good as the originals.  You guys that have known the album a lot longer might be able to pick up on a lot more difference, and while yes, it is different in places, not enough to really warrant it IMO, but it's still great and Harry still has the pipes and hits all the notes he needs to.

Now, we get to the best part of the album the three new tracks;

World Gone to Pieces is one of the greatest songs the band has ever done, the chorus is absolutely incredible.  This song is worth the purchase, wow.

Anarchy is a bit darker but with another catchy as hell chorus.  A very solid second new track.

Brighter Day reminds me a bit more of Harry's last solo album but a bit heavier.  Love Pete's guitar lines and another knockout chorus.

A new album with this sort of quality would just kick all sorts of ass.  Good release, although a little pointless at times.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 03, 2013, 10:08:32 AM
Thats what held me back from ordering it yet; I thought it might have been pointless.  I figured the new tracks would be the make or break.  I'm always hesitant to order rerecorded songs from a band. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 03, 2013, 12:03:46 PM
They played World Gone to Pieces when I saw them last month, and I was absolutely wow'd!  Can't wait to hear it.

I thought the main purpose of re-recording this (akin to WDADU) was because they didn't own the rights to the original tracks?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 03, 2013, 02:16:01 PM
Wasn't going to bother but sounds like I'll have to now Kade. Cheers  :biggrin:

And yeah I think it was to get the rights to the songs for licensing purposes like most of these rerecords.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2013, 02:49:27 PM
I thought the main purpose of re-recording this (akin to WDADU) was because they didn't own the rights to the original tracks?

Yeah, this exactly.  I didn't know that until after that post when I watched the DVD.  The DVD is a cool little documentry but it's only 20 minutes long.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 04, 2013, 09:59:38 AM
New Eden's Curse track.  https://soundcloud.com/edenscurse/unbreakable

I dig it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 04, 2013, 05:06:25 PM
To me, the verses sound incredibly close to The Living Years by Mike and the Mechanics.  It's good though, different.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2013, 04:49:09 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/timo-tolkkis-avalon-to-release-new-metal-opera-in-2014/

I honestly think that the first one was crap.  Probably my weakest 2013 release.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 08, 2013, 05:13:55 AM
I saw the news on FB yesterday.  I'm with ya there on the first one ... Very weak. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2013, 05:16:59 AM
I tried to like it, but I just couldn't get through it.  Timo's songwriting nowadays is way to simplistic and boring and his guitar solos on that were so self indulgent and his tones were shit.  Loved everything he did in Strato but since the second Revolution Renaissance album, his stuff has been garbage.  Symfonia included.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 08, 2013, 12:35:02 PM
I'm sort of with you but i sort of liked it. It wasn't great but certainly ok. Maybe I just think that because of the video with Elise Ryd blinding me to the blandness of the album. She is a stunner.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 08, 2013, 02:56:49 PM
I'm sort of with you but i sort of liked it. It wasn't great but certainly ok. Maybe I just think that because of the video with Elise Ryd blinding me to the blandness of the album. She is a stunner.

That I can understand. With the talent he recruited, it should've been much better than it was.  It wasn't awful, but it wasn't memorable either.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2013, 03:03:07 PM
I'm leaning towards awful.  I just hope the rumors aren't true that Timo is doing the next Allen/Lande.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 08, 2013, 05:05:26 PM
I'm leaning towards awful.  I just hope the rumors aren't true that Timo is doing the next Allen/Lande.

Have you heard if they are looking to release an Allen/Lande next year?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 09, 2013, 01:33:28 AM
I'm leaning towards awful.  I just hope the rumors aren't true that Timo is doing the next Allen/Lande.

Oh god no  :facepalm:

Say it isn't so. I was never a huge TT fan, always found Stratovarius bland and predictable. And he's lost it over recent years.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2013, 04:11:04 AM
On further investigation, it looks to be more than a rumor.

https://www.facebook.com/officialtolkki/posts/488105644605865

So yes, I have moved on and I am very happy and comfortable in my life. I am making music all the time in my own studio and produce and compose to there people and bands. I just finished the composing for the next Allen/Lande project, which I compose, mix and produce.
I am able to make really cool stuff with Avalon, which has turned out to be a really big success. So all these make my life content and peaceful.


 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Why the fuck wouldn't they keep Karlsson on this project?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on October 09, 2013, 04:32:29 AM
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 09, 2013, 04:42:32 AM
I'll reserve judgement until I actually hear it, but I'm not as optimistic as I would be if it was MK.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 10, 2013, 03:19:58 PM
New Silent Force album "Rising From Ashes" coming December 13th. Just announced on AFMs FB page.  Pretty sure I heard a couple of days ago that DC is on the mic.

:caffeine:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 10, 2013, 03:21:43 PM
New Silent Force album "Rising From Ashes" coming December 13th. Just announced on AFMs FB page.  Pretty sure I heard a couple of days ago that DC is on the mic.

:caffeine:

Cool. I'm up for that!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 10, 2013, 05:39:01 PM
New Silent Force album "Rising From Ashes" coming December 13th. Just announced on AFMs FB page.  Pretty sure I heard a couple of days ago that DC is on the mic.

:caffeine:

Fuck, that's a surprise.  I thought Alex would be pretty much done with SF since joining Primal Fear.  Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 10, 2013, 07:08:31 PM
Didnt think I would see another release from Silent Force; cool news.  There was a comment on blabber stating that there is possibly a new vocalist.  BM didn't list the band members on this new disc and I couldnt find it anywhere else.  Hope DC is singing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 10, 2013, 07:22:53 PM
Hasn't DC been busy with Royal Hunt and their new album?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 11, 2013, 08:23:59 AM
Yeah, maybe that's where I got confused about where DC is spending his time right now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 11, 2013, 12:57:59 PM
Never really heard any SF. Where's a good place to start? The little I heard on Spotify sounded very bass-drums-at-a-million-miles-an-hour.

When it comes to Royal Hunt it's John West for me. Never got the love for DCC.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 11, 2013, 02:13:34 PM
I'd lead with Walk the Earth and Worlds Apart.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2013, 04:12:11 PM
Never really heard any SF. Where's a good place to start? The little I heard on Spotify sounded very bass-drums-at-a-million-miles-an-hour.

When it comes to Royal Hunt it's John West for me. Never got the love for DCC.

Worlds Apart man, amazing album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 11, 2013, 07:04:12 PM
You can't go wrong with any release from Silent Force. "Infatuator" is what got me into the band. Interested to see the cover artwork and confirmation of who is on the disc. DC has been busy with Royal Hunt like Wolf said, so it just might not include him. That would be big shoes to fill if there is a different singer.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 13, 2013, 04:53:18 AM
I don't know if you would count Pretty Maids as melodic rock but their latest release Motherland is a damn good record with lots of nice melodies.   :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 13, 2013, 05:02:21 AM
Yeah man, good to see some love for Pretty Maids.  I initially thought it was weaker than Pandemonium, but I find myself coming back to Motherland quite a lot.  It's a terrific album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 13, 2013, 08:03:30 AM
Yeah man, good to see some love for Pretty Maids.  I initially thought it was weaker than Pandemonium, but I find myself coming back to Motherland quite a lot.  It's a terrific album.

Great band, and I missed them first time round. The last 3 albums have been quality and i picked up the boxset of their first 6 albums for 5 a few weeks ago on Amazon.

By the way, really enjoyed Silent Force when I Spotified them yesterday. World's Apart was excellent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Jaq on October 13, 2013, 05:01:26 PM
On further investigation, it looks to be more than a rumor.

https://www.facebook.com/officialtolkki/posts/488105644605865

So yes, I have moved on and I am very happy and comfortable in my life. I am making music all the time in my own studio and produce and compose to there people and bands. I just finished the composing for the next Allen/Lande project, which I compose, mix and produce.
I am able to make really cool stuff with Avalon, which has turned out to be a really big success. So all these make my life content and peaceful.


 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Why the fuck wouldn't they keep Karlsson on this project?

Oh for fuck's sake  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2013, 03:40:49 AM
Yeah man, good to see some love for Pretty Maids.  I initially thought it was weaker than Pandemonium, but I find myself coming back to Motherland quite a lot.  It's a terrific album.

Great band, and I missed them first time round. The last 3 albums have been quality and i picked up the boxset of their first 6 albums for 5 a few weeks ago on Amazon.

By the way, really enjoyed Silent Force when I Spotified them yesterday. World's Apart was excellent.

Wow, I gotta look into that.  And yeah, I knew you would like Worlds Apart, killer stuff.

On further investigation, it looks to be more than a rumor.

https://www.facebook.com/officialtolkki/posts/488105644605865

So yes, I have moved on and I am very happy and comfortable in my life. I am making music all the time in my own studio and produce and compose to there people and bands. I just finished the composing for the next Allen/Lande project, which I compose, mix and produce.
I am able to make really cool stuff with Avalon, which has turned out to be a really big success. So all these make my life content and peaceful.


 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Why the fuck wouldn't they keep Karlsson on this project?

Oh for fuck's sake  :facepalm:

I'm with you bro.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 14, 2013, 05:23:39 AM
Yeah man, good to see some love for Pretty Maids.  I initially thought it was weaker than Pandemonium, but I find myself coming back to Motherland quite a lot.  It's a terrific album.
I actually haven't been up to date what PM have done recently, therefor their recent albums have slipped by for me. Will definitly checked them out after hearing this album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2013, 05:26:59 AM
I've actually only gotten into them because of the newer albums.  Still checking through their older stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 14, 2013, 05:33:11 AM
On someone's recommendation, I got Future World, which is great.  I also picked up a compilation which is ok.  There newest 3 albums all rawk.  There's too much older stuff, so I'm just gonna stick with where I'm at.  I'm feeling pretty much the same about Primal Fear.  With 9 albums, I don't want to try and wade thru them all.

Too much good music, not enough time.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2013, 05:46:05 AM
What Primal Fear did you end up getting?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 14, 2013, 05:52:08 AM
What Primal Fear did you end up getting?

None yet
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2013, 05:54:35 AM
What Primal Fear did you end up getting?

None yet

oh.  There's a best of which has a pretty good tracklist and covers most of their best work.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 14, 2013, 05:56:46 AM
okily dokily.  Will investigate.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 14, 2013, 08:44:35 AM
Yeah the best of "Metal is Forever" has a great tracklist and includes a bonus disc of cover tunes (Zeppelin, Sabbath, Maiden, Priest etc).  Awesome band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2013, 11:55:13 AM
Kade, should've said that PM boxset was a mp3 download, rather than a physical box. I had a 25% off voucher too. Not sure if that puts you off.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Album-Box/dp/B003KS4QNG/ref=sr_1_2?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&sr=1-2&keywords=pretty+maids
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2013, 03:05:25 PM
Ah, that explains the amazing price.  I should check out more of their old stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2013, 04:58:16 AM
New Seventh Key;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZADsH0hcEJU

This is damn good.  Love the mix of AOR and prog!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Delirious Nomad on October 15, 2013, 07:54:08 AM
I'm looking forward to that new Boston album, although the last one from 2002 wasn't as good as it should have been, but I loved the hell out of the 4 predecessors. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 15, 2013, 08:27:49 AM
New Seventh Key;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZADsH0hcEJU

This is damn good.  Love the mix of AOR and prog!

Yeah, that was pretty sweet.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 15, 2013, 09:56:28 AM
New Seventh Key;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZADsH0hcEJU

This is damn good.  Love the mix of AOR and prog!

Yeah, that was pretty sweet.

Not bad at all. Never really checked them out. I didn't realize they were so old.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2013, 12:08:37 PM
New Seventh Key;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZADsH0hcEJU

This is damn good.  Love the mix of AOR and prog!

Checked out the epk a few weeks ago. Great stuff. Slamer has always been quality. Steelhouse Lane was awesome and the other Seveth Key albums were top notch.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2013, 04:49:38 AM
Yeah, Slamer is such a tasteful guitar player.  Looking forward to this one a lot.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 17, 2013, 04:45:38 AM
(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/silentforcerisingashes.jpg)

No news on who's singing yet.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 17, 2013, 05:26:43 AM
Saw that on FB yesterday.  Nice cover!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 17, 2013, 05:27:08 AM
Yeah, very snazzy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 17, 2013, 06:46:56 AM
Mood Swings II

Just got my first couple of listens in.  With this being my #10 album of all time, I was very skeptical when I first heard they were re-recording it.  That skepticism turned to optimism when they posted some samples over the summer.  Then when I heard them live, I was really jazzed.

Then I clicked play.  The first few moments of Saviors Never Cry had me VERY worried.  Pete's guitar sound was clunky and raw.  I was worried the album had been 'Vapor Trail'd'.  The rest of the track (quality) improved a bit, but it wasn't until No Justice that I got the relief I was looking for.  They sound fantastic.  20 years later, their sound has aged just as nicely as I have  ;).  My only other beef with the album is Just Like I Planned.  I really liked the a capella vocal harmonies from the original.  There's nothing wrong with the re-record, but I just prefer the original arrangement over this new acoustic version.

And the new tracks are A+.  Haven't watched the DVD 're-making of' yet.

It's a very good replica/restoration of one of my favorite albums of all time.  I'll probably still gravitate to the original, but will spin this for a slight change of sound every now and then.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 17, 2013, 11:08:45 AM
Mood Swings II

Just got my first couple of listens in.  With this being my #10 album of all time, I was very skeptical when I first heard they were re-recording it.  That skepticism turned to optimism when they posted some samples over the summer.  Then when I heard them live, I was really jazzed.

Then I clicked play.  The first few moments of Saviors Never Cry had me VERY worried.  Pete's guitar sound was clunky and raw.  I was worried the album had been 'Vapor Trail'd'.  The rest of the track (quality) improved a bit, but it wasn't until No Justice that I got the relief I was looking for.  They sound fantastic.  20 years later, their sound has aged just as nicely as I have  ;).  My only other beef with the album is Just Like I Planned.  I really liked the a capella vocal harmonies from the original.  There's nothing wrong with the re-record, but I just prefer the original arrangement over this new acoustic version.

And the new tracks are A+.  Haven't watched the DVD 're-making of' yet.

It's a very good replica/restoration of one of my favorite albums of all time.  I'll probably still gravitate to the original, but will spin this for a slight change of sound every now and then.

I haven't bought it as I have the original and it sounds perfectly fine to me (thanks Spotify). The new songs are very good and I agree with you about JLIP. Also the vocals on Sentimental Blvd aren't as good as the original.

I played the new Coney Hatch on Spotify too and it's ok, nothing more than that. Don't see me buying that either.

Adriangale's Suckerpunch is good but there's something missing. I think it is a production thing as the songs and performances are good. Maybe lack some keyboards? Not sure what it is.

No money to Frontiers this month by the looks of it.

That Silent Force cover looks like crap though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 17, 2013, 11:24:53 AM
I really like that Silent Force album cover
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 23, 2013, 06:35:09 PM
Lineup revealed:

Andre Hilgers - Drums (returning)
Alex Beyrodt - Guitars (returning)
Mat Siner - Bass (new ... Primal Feark, Kiske/Somerville, Voodoo Circle)
Alessandro Del Vecchio - Keys (new ... Eden's Curse, Edge of Forever, Hardline)
Michael Bormann - vocals (new ... he did the Powerworld album earlier this year)

Should be good.  I liked Bormann's vocals on Cybersteria.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 23, 2013, 06:42:30 PM
Never heard of Michael Bormann before, but like what I've just heard from his previous material
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 24, 2013, 03:41:17 AM
Lineup revealed:

Andre Hilgers - Drums (returning)
Alex Beyrodt - Guitars (returning)
Mat Siner - Bass (new ... Primal Feark, Kiske/Somerville, Voodoo Circle)
Alessandro Del Vecchio - Keys (new ... Eden's Curse, Edge of Forever, Hardline)
Michael Bormann - vocals (new ... he did the Powerworld album earlier this year)

Should be good.  I liked Bormann's vocals on Cybersteria.

Always liked Bormann's voice. Should be good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2013, 04:51:25 AM
Not familiar with him to be honest.  Interesting that Alessandro would be in on this, he's been busy lately.  It's funny that that's now 4 bands Mat Sinner and Alex are in together currently.   Surely he could have found another bassist for this.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2013, 03:24:48 AM
Frontiers Records will release "Delivering The Black", the tenth studio album from German power metallers PRIMAL FEAR, on January 24 in Europe and January 28 in North America.

After some very intense songwriting sessions and pre-production schedule, the band started to record the new CD in summer 2013 at the House Of Music studios in Germany, with bassist/producer Mat Sinner and engineer Achim Khler (EDGUY, MASTERPLAN). The band then moved to Denmark in September to finish the album, with acclaimed producer/engineer Jacob Hansen (VOLBEAT, PRETTY MAIDS, AMARANTHE) handling the mix at his Hansen studio in Ribe.

"Delivering The Black" combines the strongest PRIMAL FEAR moments ever, with a well-balanced typical PRIMAL FEAR trademark riff vibe, crushing songs and some very ambitious musical journeys. The centerpiece of the album are two epic tracks, "When Death Comes Knocking" and the 10-minute opus "One Night In December", spiced with big orchestral arrangements and complex sound designs.

Classic and ultra-fresh PRIMAL FEAR riff-rockers like the title track, the album opener "King For A Day" or the groove monsters "Alive And On Fire" and "Road To Asylum" hit the bulls-eye just like the untamed speed killer "Rebel Faction". The outstanding ballad "Born With A Broken Heart" shows a new side of PRIMAL FEAR with an acoustic guitar vibe and the addition of Liv Kristine (LEAVES' EYES) on backing vocals.

Says PRIMAL FEAR singer Ralf Scheepers: "We worked hard to create our best album ever. I already felt the vibe during the pre-production that we were working on something very special this time. And now the result is just an amazing metal album I'm extremely proud of!" Sinner adds: "The songs, the production, the sound this album is a very special one for me and my career. In my view, everybody in the band just did a killer job and Jacob was fantastic choice to mix the album!"

The arrival of "Delivering The Black" will be preceded by the release of the digital-only single/video "When Death Comes Knocking" on December 2 a song which sets the pace for the outstanding quality of production and songwriting displayed on the full album.

Check out an audio sample in the YouTube clip below.

"Delivering The Black" will be made available in a regular CD edition, deluxe edition with two bonus tracks and in cooperation with Soulfood Music vinyl edition and DVD and limited edition (666 copies only!) of a super-deluxe version, including a metallic eagle.

"Delivering The Black" track listing:

01. King For A Day
02. Rebel Faction
03. When Death Comes Knocking
04. Alive & On Fire
05. Delivering The Black
06. Road To Asylum
07. One Night In December
08. Never Pray For Justice
09. Born With A Broken Heart
10. Innocent Man *
11. Inseminoid
12. Man Without Shadow *
13. When Death Comes Knocking (Single Edit) *

* Only available on deluxe edition

DVD (only available with deluxe edition)

* When Death Comes Knocking (video)
* King For A Day (video)
* Making Of The Album (video)

Read more at https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/primal-fear-delivering-the-black-album-details-revealed/#TT3AwLZCICuETWRI.99


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TK7BEWgEkQE

Song sounds quite different and interesting and has potential.  The mix and production sounds stellar too.  :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 05, 2013, 03:38:55 AM
I saw it on Youtube yesterday, and lost interest once the vocals came in. Production is ok, but it's the usual one-size-fits-all Frontiers records metal production. :lol It actually fits this music this time though.

I've been checking out a few random melodic rock albums on Spotify lately, but it's all the same stuff to my ears. I'll take any suggestions!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2013, 03:50:24 AM
You're a fussy man Blob.   :lol Primal Fear have always just been a straight forward metal band in the vein of Priest.  Some of their older album are incredible if you like that sort of style.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 05, 2013, 03:52:48 AM
You're a fussy man Blob.   :lol

Yup, sure am. :lol

Primal Fear have always just been a straight forward metal band in the vein of Priest.  Some of their older album are incredible if you like that sort of style.

Not really my style, at least not at the moment. I really don't know what I want at the moment, as not many new albums seem to interest me at all lately.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2013, 04:00:13 AM
You're a fussy man Blob.   :lol

Yup, sure am. :lol

Primal Fear have always just been a straight forward metal band in the vein of Priest.  Some of their older album are incredible if you like that sort of style.

Not really my style, at least not at the moment. I really don't know what I want at the moment, as not many new albums seem to interest me at all lately.

I've actually been through that a couple of  times over the last few years.  I know what you mean, no matter how hard you look, nothing seems to scratch the itch.  The best thing I found was just going back to old stuff that I simply hadn't listened to for a while.  Gives you a nostalgia trip and keeps your mind off new stuff for a while.  Then something eventually pops up and you have more direction again.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 05, 2013, 04:17:13 AM
Primal Fear is one of my favorites.  Just like Saxon and Helloween, you can always depend on a kick ass disc every two years.  This sample didnt really sound great though; not sure what to make of it yet.  Looking forward to the release.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 05, 2013, 04:22:42 AM
I think we need the whole song.  Sounds like it might need a few listens too.  Primal Fear have been one of my favs since Black Sun came out too, amazing band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2013, 03:28:57 AM
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!  :metal :hefdaddy

VIRTUOSO SUPERGROUP RING OF FIRE RETURN WITH A BRAND NEW ALBUM IN JANUARY 2014:
Frontiers Records is pleased to announce the return of Neoclassic Power Metal Super Group Ring Of Fire with the release of the band's brand new album Battle of Leningrad on January 24 in Europe and January 28 in North America.
Ring Of Fire is a band comprised of some incredible musicians including former Yngwie Malmsteen and Royal Hunt singer Mark Boals, classically-trained Artension keyboardist Vitalij Kuprij and none other than Tony MacAlpine on guitars.
Combining Melodic metal songs with fantasy-based lyrics, topped off with virtuoso performances from the line-up, the resulting Ring Of Fire albums proved to be exactly what many neoclassical-metal fans had waited for, creating a solid fan base for the band all over the world.
Battle of Leningrad is the band's fourth studio album, coming after a 9 years hiatus a period which has seen the band members getting involved in other projects, most notably with singer Mark Boals becoming singer for Royal Hunt and Kuprij and MacAlpine touring with Trans Siberian Orchestra and Steve Vai respectively.
RING OF FIRE reconvened with Boals, MacAlpine and Kuprij during 2012, when they agreed to work on their unfinished business and develop a new album from the true story of the siege of Leningrad during the WWII.

Mark Boals explains: It is a true story of the strength and resilience of the Russian people throughout history and particularly in this instance of 900 days of being surrounded on all sides with no food and no hope of rescue, under siege of the Nazi army. The magnificent city of Leningrad with millions of people trapped, found a way to withstand the daily attacks of rockets and bombs, the lack of food, water, and fuel for heat. Although more than 1 million starved to death, most survived, and the Nazis were never able to overtake the city completely. They were finally forced to retreat by the Russian army. Not widely known by most, this was an amazing story and one of World War II's finest examples of heroism in the worst circumstances imaginable.

Musically the album is all the fans have been waiting for. True Neoclassic Power Metal with technical and exciting musical passages which promise to reignite the Ring Of Fire flame among the fans! Former Stratovarius, Timo Tolkki played bass and mixed the album to perfection, while the other finnish musician Jami Huovinen (Sentiment) played drums on the album.
Battle of Leningrad will include the following songs: Mother Russia; They're Calling Your Name; Empire; Land Of Frozen Tears; Firewind; Where Angels Play; Battle Of Leningrad; No Way Out; Our World; Rain.
Samples of the songs can be enjoyed via this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik-yHZ-8QgI&feature=youtu.be

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Can't wait for this, but sounds like Timo Tolkki has fucked the mix and production.  Bass is too loud and he has made TMac's guitar sound terrible.  Timo Tolkki really needs to go away.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 12, 2013, 04:04:08 AM
Yikes, that mix is awful. The music sounded ok too, but that mix kills it. Those guitars sound like they were recorded over the telephone, and the drums sound like they were played inside a bathroom made of cardboard boxes.

Is this just a genre doomed to budget mixing? :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2013, 04:13:08 AM
Yeah, I think the mix and production here could actualyl be an issue for me, and I'm not usually fussy.  Man, Timo Tolkki needs to go back to the plan where he was going to quit music, the shit he is doing lately is terrible.  It almost makes me wonder if he made TMac's guitar sound like shit on purpose out of jealousy or something.  :lol

I seriously hope Frontiers change their mind and keep him away from the Allen/Lande project.  Timo will ruin the brilliance Karlsson has created.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 12, 2013, 04:24:13 AM
I like ring of fire, but love the individual parts too. Not listened to the clip yet but am already concerned at the comments. I have to say I haven't been a fan of TMac's guitar sound for a while so that may not be Tolkki's fault.
I didn't hate Avalon like most, but it certainly didn't live up to expectations. Tobi Sammet doesn't have anything to worry about in the metal opera front.

And Boals isn't fooling anyone with that "hair"  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 12, 2013, 06:11:54 AM
Just listened to the clip and  :omg: that is as bad a sounding clip as I've heard for a long time. Hollow sounding guitar.. I would be ashamed to come up with that mix in my bedroom on the iphone. Such great musicians deserve better. Not even YT compression can be blamed for that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2013, 03:52:02 AM
Just listened to the clip and  :omg: that is as bad a sounding clip as I've heard for a long time. Hollow sounding guitar.. I would be ashamed to come up with that mix in my bedroom on the iphone. Such great musicians deserve better. Not even YT compression can be blamed for that.

Yeah, I can see why people would dislike TMac's tone, but that has nothing to do with this.  Still, I'm looking forward to it as they are one of the great neoclassical bands.

LOL at Boals hair too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2013, 04:08:23 AM
Got the new Place Vendome in the mail yesterday and so far I'm really liking it.  It's AOR by numbers but the songs are nice.  Talk to Me and Broken Wings are my immediate favs with Broken Wings being one of the greatest songs I've heard all year.  What a tune and Michi sounds wonderful all over the record.  Here's the Talk To Me clip;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrRH8OEm_GM

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2013, 10:17:20 AM
Got the new Place Vendome in the mail yesterday and so far I'm really liking it.  It's AOR by numbers but the songs are nice.  Talk to Me and Broken Wings are my immediate favs with Broken Wings being one of the greatest songs I've heard all year.  What a tune and Michi sounds wonderful all over the record.  Here's the Talk To Me clip;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrRH8OEm_GM

yeah, it's pretty good. I do get bored quite quickly with the AOR by numbers albums these days but this is better than that. I also enjoyed the Revolution Road album, but it's a bit more Southern/Country than my usual taste, but it rocks just enough.

Dug this one out today,

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Cost me a bit a few years ago, then they rereleased it with bonus tracks= typical.
Dorianna is a great 80s song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Jaq on November 15, 2013, 10:28:08 AM
Someone needs to smack me upside the head for not giving Magnus Karlsson's Free Fall a spin sooner. Good lord is this a good album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2013, 11:54:46 AM
Someone needs to smack me upside the head for not giving Magnus Karlsson's Free Fall a spin sooner. Good lord is this a good album.
*smacks*

My AOTY
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Jaq on November 15, 2013, 01:04:55 PM
Not that high for me, but definite top 10, maybe even top 5 depending on my final list. Fucking fantastic album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2013, 03:57:55 PM
Yeah, I don't know what would make my number one, but Freefall is top 3 at least.

Paul, I only know Paul Laine from Danger Danger, I should check that out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2013, 04:06:17 PM
Yeah, I don't know what would make my number one, but Freefall is top 3 at least.

Paul, I only know Paul Laine from Danger Danger, I should check that out.

You got Spotify down there?
It's good but probably a filler track or too too many to be great. There's the odd riff that sounds like other songs too. Worth checking out but try before you buy mate.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2013, 04:35:03 PM
I've never used Spotify.  I'll check it out on Youtube or something.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 19, 2013, 08:11:26 AM
In case anyone missed it in the 2014 Release Date thread...

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German guitarist Axel Rudi Pell will release his new album, "Into The Storm", on on January 17, 2013 in Germany, January 20 in the rest of Europe and on January 21 in the USA/Canada via SPV/Steamhammer. The CD was recorded with engineer and co-producer Charlie Bauerfeind and features Pell alongside singer Johnny Gioeli, new drummer Bobby Rondinelli, keyboard player Ferdy Doernberg and bassist Volker Krawczak.

"Into The Storm" track listing:

01. The Inquisitorial Procedure
02. Tower Of Lies
03. Long Way To Go
04. Burning Chains
05. When Truth Hurts
06. Changing Times
07. Touching Heaven
08. High Above
09. Hey Hey My My
10. Into The Storm

Digipak bonus tracks:

11. White CATS (Opus #6 Scivolare)
12. Way To Mandalay

Configurations:

* Limited-edition digipak including 2 tracks + poster
* Double gatefold LP with colored vinyl
* Standard version
* Digital download
* Deluxe edition including digipak, plec, metalpin, poster, postcard, sticker and much more!

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/axel-rudi-pell-into-the-storm-cover-artwork-track-listing-revealed/#fAv4BoxBGwZXJuW5.99
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 19, 2013, 09:16:04 AM
I can hear it in my head already...

You can certaily rely on Axel not to deviate from the formula. Gioelli is always a pleasure to hear though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2013, 04:19:34 PM
Yeah, looking forward to this, but it's true we pretty much know how this is going to sound.  But at least we know it will be quality.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2013, 04:29:37 PM
Yeah, looking forward to this, but it's true we pretty much know how this is going to sound.  But at least we know it will be quality.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2013, 04:34:40 PM
I should go back and spin Circle of the Oath again.  It was a solid release but I think at the time there were quite a few releases, so it sort of slipped under the radar.  I remember there being some really good tunes though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2013, 04:43:53 PM
I should go back and spin Circle of the Oath again.  It was a solid release but I think at the time there were quite a few releases, so it sort of slipped under the radar.  I remember there being some really good tunes though.
Yes, you are correct. It was shadowed by a bunch of other things. I will revisit it myself in the next few days. Thank you!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2013, 04:59:31 PM
No probs man. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 19, 2013, 05:04:30 PM
Guess that means I got to buy it.  I took the ARP plunge thanks to Kade, but CoO was one that didn't make the cut.  I had enough of the back catalog to run through.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 19, 2013, 05:12:33 PM
I switched off buying ARP discs many years ago ...........the only recent track I heard and liked was Devil Zone - mostly just cos of the huge riff/sound and Gioeli's vox but , having had my very familiar fill , I went back to regular service.

I originally got into ARP through my boy crush on Jeff Scott Soto and one of my favourite bands ever Talisman (also marching Out by Malmsteen)  - so in my mission to get everything he ever did back in the early-mid 90's I got a hold of Between The Walls , Nasty Reputation (Rob Rock) and then sorta got sick of it.  He really needs a better lead guitarist  :laugh: and it might hold my attention better , but in the end the big riffs and Johnny's vox aren't enough to overcome the lack of any real variety.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2013, 05:13:38 PM
Guess that means I got to buy it.  I took the ARP plunge thanks to Kade, but CoO was one that didn't make the cut.  I had enough of the back catalog to run through.

You probably still do have enough.  COTO is nothing you haven't already heard.  I'll listen again and see if it's worth it for you, as I do remember it did have a couple of amazing songs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2013, 05:14:16 PM
I switched off buying ARP discs many years ago ...........the only recent track I heard and liked was Devil Zone - mostly just cos of the huge riff/sound and Gioeli's vox but , having had my very familiar fill , I went back to regular service.

I originally got into ARP through my boy crush on Jeff Scott Soto and one of my favourite bands ever Talisman (also marching Out by Malmsteen)  - so in my mission to get everything he ever did back in the early-mid 90's I got a hold of Between The Walls , Nasty Reputation (Rob Rock) and then sorta got sick of it.  He really needs a better lead guitarist  :laugh: and it might hold my attention better , but in the end the big riffs and Johnny's vox aren't enough to overcome the lack of any real variety.

What did you think of Damage Control?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2013, 05:17:52 PM
Guess that means I got to buy it.  I took the ARP plunge thanks to Kade, but CoO was one that didn't make the cut.  I had enough of the back catalog to run through.

You probably still do have enough.  COTO is nothing you haven't already heard.  I'll listen again and see if it's worth it for you, as I do remember it did have a couple of amazing songs.
Listening to Run Like the Wind, and I'm thinking this could've easily been lifted from McCauley Schenker's Save Yourself.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 19, 2013, 05:19:57 PM



What did you think of Damage Control?

I certainly like Damage Control but I don't find myself returning to it often ( a bit like JLB's stuff vs DT) ....if memory serves correct I rated it around 80-85%.    I love the guy as a performer and a person but to be honest his solo albums have never done it for me the way he did when working in bands like Talisman, Eyes, Malmsteen etc.....

And speaking of Paul laine (above) he's playing a small gig here in Melbourne in a couple of weeks .  Difficult time for me (Tuesday night) but I really need to make the effort to get along.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2013, 05:29:18 PM
JSS's other album didn't do much for me too, but Damage Control was just stellar IMO.  One of the best things he's done IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 19, 2013, 05:37:41 PM
JSS's other album didn't do much for me too, but Damage Control was just stellar IMO.  One of the best things he's done IMO.

It's not an album I played more than a few times -  I'll revisit it and give it a better try.  As implied by my rating I do consider it a quality effort and it would also be my fave solo release too I think.    Talisman though in particular are in another league for me though........RIP Marcel.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2013, 06:25:13 PM
Yeah, Talisman were awesome, really awesome.  Five Men Live is still one of the best live DVD's I've seen.  Such a killer performance.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 19, 2013, 06:55:00 PM
By the way - thanks for starting this thread wolfking...........just realised how many pages I need to backtrack and read  :tdwn   ;D     This is far more my cuppa tea than talking lite prog rock and as a refugee from mr.com after being on there almost every day since the 20th century  :omg:  it's cool to have this sort of music having a home on DTF.

I like anything from Toto to Annihilator - as long is has hooks , good songs and musicianship I'm in.

I'm on a bit of a Savatage kick atm - one of my top 10 all time bands

  NP:  Follow Me (Edge of Thorns). ..classic Criss Oliva solo and tempo change after  gets me every time :tup  And another of my favourite musicians sadly no longer with us  :'(


 Now there's  a band with a few cool covers!


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Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 19, 2013, 07:08:55 PM
Glad to have another melodic fan in the mix. There aren't too too many of us, but there's more than a handful.  This thread can some remiss get a little close to the metal edge of 'melodic', but enjoy the 100+ posts!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 19, 2013, 10:14:23 PM
Alrighty then........... :hat    I'm up to date and have speed read the thread.  Not too much mentioned I haven't got or heard but I've got a good feel for the taste in music and it seems right up my alley - everything from AOR to melodic metal.

I didn't really want to be bringing forward quotes from ages ago and commenting so I'll try and contribute from here.   I think lowdz was probably about when I started on mr.com back in the mid-late 90's so there's been plenty of music digested in that time.

If anyone's interested I could try to do a post each day or two of an album of interest -  either a classic that most would be aware of, a rare gem , etc......change it up a bit.    Anyone interested in instrumental stuff?? - don't have a heap of it but I was learning guitar in the Shrapnel days and built up a bit of stuff in that area too.

In the meantime , a little tidbit.

I notice a number here are fans of Hardline/Gioeli...............and of course Double Eclipse.   Well my favourite track off that album is a bonus track that isn't on the general release.

When Love Leads The Way  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs5Tbg4QBUw
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 20, 2013, 02:10:21 AM
Alrighty then........... :hat    I'm up to date and have speed read the thread.  Not too much mentioned I haven't got or heard but I've got a good feel for the taste in music and it seems right up my alley - everything from AOR to melodic metal.

I didn't really want to be bringing forward quotes from ages ago and commenting so I'll try and contribute from here.   I think lowdz was probably about when I started on mr.com back in the mid-late 90's so there's been plenty of music digested in that time.

If anyone's interested I could try to do a post each day or two of an album of interest -  either a classic that most would be aware of, a rare gem , etc......change it up a bit.    Anyone interested in instrumental stuff?? - don't have a heap of it but I was learning guitar in the Shrapnel days and built up a bit of stuff in that area too.

In the meantime , a little tidbit.

I notice a number here are fans of Hardline/Gioeli...............and of course Double Eclipse.   Well my favourite track off that album is a bonus track that isn't on the general release.

When Love Leads The Way  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs5Tbg4QBUw


We seem to have a similar taste in these things Brent.
I loved the Shrapnel years but don't have the same enthusiasm for the newer shredders. An instrumental discussion probably needs its own thread. Not sure if there is one- someone started a instrumental recommendation thread that was short lived but it wasn't really about the shredding. If you want to start one I'll be in.

Feel free to recommend any releases. We've all chipped in along the way and I still do when I dig something out of the Lowdz archive (also known as the attic where all my music is "stored"-  htough dumped would be a more accurate descriptiion  :biggrin:).

Is Paul Laine doing a rock show or the country stuff he's about to release with Dark Horse?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2013, 02:29:20 AM
Paul's doing a rock show - never know ...he might throw in something to promote Dark Horse but the promo stuff has been all about solo, Danger Danger, Shugazer etc.....   I found that Dark Horse single pretty cringe worthy.

I'll see if I can come up with something of interest each day or two - I'm sure you'll know most of it but I'm sure us old timers have a few gems in the attic yet to be revealed to those not quite so advanced in age  :coolio    And it's also cool to make mention/celebrate some classics we're all aware of too.

Re instrumentals I wasn't going to make a habit of it - more just the odd thing I might have that is rockin and melodic  ;)   I tend to think an instrumental thread might dry up pretty quick.  Might just toss in an instrumental CD of the month or something for some variety.

In a way it's cool to have just one thread and a dedicated few rather than trying to keep up with hundreds of threads elsewhere.  I'm pretty done with new music anyway - I still buy plenty in digital format as I come across it but it's all so samey that I rarely like something enough to go to the trouble to buy it on CD for the audiophile in me.   The only album I bothered to buy on CD this year was - you guessed it -  DT12.

I've finally just entered the digital age properly too and it's made a huge difference to the amount of music I'm listening to on my main hifi system.  I really couldn't be stuffed before - searching the "attic" for a CD................so in recent months I have digitised my whole collection (around 30,000 tracks) and connected up a Sonos + DAC to my stereo which means I now have the whole collection at my fingertips via iPAd and queue up stuff like a Jukebox.  Awesome!!

Cheers

Brent
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2013, 02:59:58 AM
I've been a guitarist for over 15 years so I love Becker, Macalpine, Vai, Satch, Malmsteen, Friedman and a lot of the Shrapnel stuff from the late 80's.

That Savatage album is a classic too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2013, 03:10:38 AM
Speaking of instrumentals;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-racer-x-guitarist-bruce-bouillet-to-release-the-order-of-control-in-january/

Former RACER X guitarist Bruce Bouillet will release his third instrumental album, "The Order Of Control", on January 21, 2014 via Mascot Label Group's Music Theories imprint.

Bouillet has enjoyed a successful career for the past couple of decades as both a sought-after player and a fixture within the Los Angeles studio scene.

THE ORDER OF CONTROL is a new band featuring Bouillet, Dave Foreman (bass) and Glen Sobel (drums).

Bouillet made the move towards instrumental music when conspiring creatively with Foreman about eight years ago. He offers, "Dave is a L.A. underground legend. He has played on more big albums then I can list, some of which include DJ Quick, Aaliyah, Tupac, Snoop Dog, Ice Cube and BOYZ II MEN. His main instrument is guitar, but he plays all instruments amazing. His bass playing on the new album is incredible, and even though he is known for more hip hop and R&B, his rock playing really brings something new to the table." Sobel is an L.A. based drummer who tours with ALICE COOPER, but has also played with BEAUTIFUL CREATURES and Orianthi.

Bouillet has been through the exercise of crafting instrumental album releases three times now, and articulates with ease the benefits to approaching songwriting without vocals in mind. He offers, "Instrumental albums give me a chance to speak with the guitar 100%. Not that I'm some sort of control freak, but just like someone who paints a picture chooses the artistic outcome, I want my instrumental albums to be uniquely me, and since I am not a singer, it provides the right vehicle for me to express myself. That being said I do have a new vocal band in the works for 2014, so in a way I have the best of both worlds."

The guitarist shares his inspiration comes from, "Life, family, friends, traveling, teaching, reading, hiking in the mountains, playing live, or from anyone at the top of their game be it music, sports, science, or art."

"The Order Of Control" is a concept album. Its theme deals with a force intermixed throughout humanity that manipulates the masses. In choosing titles, everything relates to the theme. Bouillet advises, "Sometimes you have to read into it and research." With the opening track, "Blind As We Watched", it makes reference to events that happen around us, right in front of our eyes but invisible to our sight. With "Seeing Through", these days information travels at an ever increasing pace. This title is in reference to disinformation or seeing through disinformation. What better way to spread confusion to the masses, then by adding one sentence of truth in a paragraph of lies, and letting the social networks do the work for you by spreading it around." A third track titled "The Manipulators" references "those that possess the power to remote view, communicate with telepathy, orchestrate street theater, read minds, and place thoughts. They are well trained and organized. They stalk individuals in groups, and use such things as schizophrenia as a weapon to destroy people. It is the perfect crime manipulating one into self destruction."

Read more at https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-racer-x-guitarist-bruce-bouillet-to-release-the-order-of-control-in-january/#2DSwzM7f4cbM5uS4.99


Can't wait for this.  Love Bruce's playing, I think I may even like him more than Gilbert in RX.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 20, 2013, 04:37:00 AM
Never heard his instrumental stuff but I have The Scream album he did with John Carobi which is pretty good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 20, 2013, 05:26:41 AM
I notice a number here are fans of Hardline/Gioeli...............and of course Double Eclipse.   Well my favourite track off that album is a bonus track that isn't on the general release.

When Love Leads The Way  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs5Tbg4QBUw

Huge Hardline/Gioelli fan here... Ever since it was released back in '93 (it was #12 on my Top 50).  Thankfully I already did have that bonus track!

But keep those rare/hidden gems coming
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 20, 2013, 05:35:02 AM
I'm going to venture into the attic later, see what I can find in the vaults...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2013, 05:54:53 AM
(https://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTD9j_RxyZ1iSFo1EanC2UHi5YDQN9JAmJPqXqoDZ9uV6BmQIOF)

Okay............I picked this first CD through association with one of our fave guitar players.  Most of my listening of late has been on the heavy side , but this is a bit of a 180 degree turn back to AOR/Westcoast/CCM which I think you guys might appreciate.  Thought I might shock you with something wimpy to start  ;D

There's been a bit of (very well deserved) love for Dan Huff in this thread - one of my favourite guitarists ever.   Well and truly capable of shredding but always manages to strike the right balance for the song and leave you wanting more.  He also developed the annoying habit on the Giant albums of going ballistic just as things were fading out  :facepalm:   If you listen carefully you can hear him do the same on the first track I linked here too  >:(

So - as you do I usually try and track down side projects of my favourite artists.   This release from 1991 is one of those rare high priced CDs that is probably worth the price if you can find it. This is the s/t solo album by (Peter) Beckett ....ex-Player and had a little time with LRB.    It has a number of good players on it - Wayne Nelson from LRB, Chris frazier + one cameo from Michael Thompson etc...  and also features a couple of covers of songs like Brother Louie and Another Day Goes By , which Aussies would recognise as a Rick Price radio hit.

Dann Huff appears on 4 tracks and , although not as rocking as on Giant , you can't miss that tone and tasteful playing.   The whole album is strong and I'd rate it 94%.  And unlike some people when I rate something 90% it's not just par for the course.

Here's two of the Huff tracks:

I Told You So (heaviest on the album) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4ksrLzgvSE


 
Hanging By A Thread  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThbeqpnWK94




Cheers

Brent



PS  My first choice when people ask me for obscure rock CDs is often Red Dawn but Lowdz already beat me to that. 

 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2013, 05:49:02 PM
That Rick Price song always annoyed the shit out of me for some reason.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2013, 06:04:43 PM
Not a huge fan myself either to be honest and that'd be a lower rated song on the Beckett album too. 

Aside from it being a very solid album , the Dann Huff factor makes this an essential CD for me.   It's criminal the lack of music where Dann is front and centre and this is about as good as it gets outside of the 3 Giant albums (with the 3rd Giant being more a leftovers job)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2013, 06:41:32 PM

But keep those rare/hidden gems coming

Apologies if I double up on stuff already mentioned.......being a noob and all


The Hardline track got me thinking about perhaps another album where the bonus track/s were my favourite.  Well in this case the bonus tracks are the ONLY tracks I listen to with any regularity.

(https://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/4/1/6/14167.jpg)

There's plenty of love for Jorn here I see and I like him when he's singing some good songs (not often  ;D  ) -  being a fan of Jorn's voice and of Helloween around Keeper to Master of The Rings (although Chameleon was a dog) this band should be a fave of mine but aside from a couple of tracks on Aeronautics (mostly back For My Life) they've never done much for me.   The only other tracks of theirs I'd choose to play now and then are the two bonus tracks from the debut album which I don't see mentioned often.  They're a bit more melodic rock and quite different to the album songs.

The Kid Rocks On  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsJR8CVByf0

Through Thick and Thin   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjqHJ1Yo6ZY
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2013, 07:01:23 PM
Masterplan's bonus tracks never really did it for me.  Roland was always wise with what to put on the album and leave off.  For bonus tracks they are fine but nothing memorable.  I'd say the newest album had the strongest bonus tracks.  The ones on MK2 were okay.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2013, 07:05:56 PM
Masterplan's bonus tracks never really did it for me.  Roland was always wise with what to put on the album and leave off.

The album was well received and so I guess you're right - for me (and anyone who has similar taste) the album did nothing for me but the bonus tracks were half decent.  The bonus tracks are very different so perhaps they were considering a more melodic path at some point.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2013, 07:11:12 PM
This and Aeronautics are two of the finest melodic power metal albums ever IMO.  Both are just perfect.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 20, 2013, 07:20:44 PM
This and Aeronautics are two of the finest melodic power metal albums ever IMO.  Both are just perfect.

Dude, you're such a compliment slut.  You'll say anything is the 'best ever'.  :lol  Personally, I like all of Masterplan, even MK2.  But you are right, s/t and Aeronautics are their two best. 

As for Jorn on the whole, I love his voice, but he really needs to make sure he's got a good writer.  1/2 of the stuff under his own name is tripe.  When he's got a strong writer (Karlsson, Tobi), he's absolute gold.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2013, 07:34:46 PM
I suppose that's the beauty of music - we all have our own definitions of what's heavy, what's melodic etc........   like with my taste in prog metal I have a lot of power metal bands that are amongst my faves but there's a very narrow spectrum that really does it for me.    I don't know what Savatage have in common with most "power metal" bands but they seem to be put in that genre according to most  - I love almost everything they did and especially from Hall of The Mountain King through to Handful of Rain.  These days power metal seems to mean full speed ahead at all costs which doesn't appeal to me.   

Stratovarius is another favourite but mostly only the slower (IMO more powerful) stuff -  so my favourite tracks would be stuff like Uncertainty, Eternity, Kiss of Judas, We Hold The Key, Twilight Symphony.   My liking for Back For My Life  makes sense in that context.  I like where Stratovarius is going too - I liked pretty much everything on Nemesis (they've hit a good balance between speed and melody IMO) whereas a lot of the faster tracks on the earlier releases did little for me.

I tracked down your Top 50 wolfking and having a look now.  It's pretty clear our tastes differ quite a bit but there's certainly some cross over (Gutter Ballet is an all time fave of mine). .............I'll raise something that appeals to you at some stage I promise  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2013, 07:58:06 PM
This and Aeronautics are two of the finest melodic power metal albums ever IMO.  Both are just perfect.

Dude, you're such a compliment slut.  You'll say anything is the 'best ever'.  :lol  Personally, I like all of Masterplan, even MK2.  But you are right, s/t and Aeronautics are their two best. 

As for Jorn on the whole, I love his voice, but he really needs to make sure he's got a good writer.  1/2 of the stuff under his own name is tripe.  When he's got a strong writer (Karlsson, Tobi), he's absolute gold.

I never denied that I am a music whore. ;D  MK2 was indeed great.  The latest was exceptional but Time To Be King is absolute shit.

I tend to agree with what you said about Jorn's solo work.  The early stuff is great, but the last few haven't kept my interest.  And the Dio rip offs on the latest one was embarrasing.


I tracked down your Top 50 wolfking and having a look now.  It's pretty clear our tastes differ quite a bit but there's certainly some cross over (Gutter Ballet is an all time fave of mine). .............I'll raise something that appeals to you at some stage I promise  ;D

You just did, Masterplan.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2013, 08:11:27 PM
 ;D  Having a quick look at lowdz top 50 now too.  starting at the top with I&W and Operation Mindcrime................I wholeheartedly agree.  I think I would struggle to split those and the debut Van Halen.

I'll try and do one of my own one of these days .
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2013, 09:17:00 PM
Seeing as the AOR of Beckett went down such a treat I think I might up the pace a bit  :D

D C Cooper: s/t

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/410THHP6ZYL.jpg)

This is another album I rarely see mentioned but IMO it's the best album DC Cooper has appeared on.   It might just be in the running for a top 50 list for me and really was a bit of a supergroup of our genre.  I just wish it had been more than a one off project.   How does this sound? -  DC Cooper backed by PC 69 (with Dennis Ward producing) and add in Gunter Werno from Vanden Plas on keys and Tore Ostby from Conception/Ark as second guitar   :metal

There's very little filler on this and a wide range of pace - everything from ballads to straight ahead rockers (incl a cover of Easy livin') , melodic metal and an epic prog rocker called The Union to end the CD.    Unfortunately I cannot link to that track.    The production is very dreamy/atmospheric and I really rate this CD.  Score: 90/100

It's hard to pick just one or two tracks to illustrate the album but here's a couple at random

Dream : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB8cAA9nnRo

The Angel Comes  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olmhFk3yyzE

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 20, 2013, 09:29:24 PM
Don't know his solo stuff, but if it's better than anything he did with Royal Hunt, the four Silent Force albums, or Amaran's Plight, then it must be pretty fuckin good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2013, 09:52:39 PM
Obviously it'll depend on your taste etc..... and Message To God was on a loop on my stereo as a kid....... but as a whole album I think this is as good as he's done.  More melodic rock than metal though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2013, 02:31:19 AM
The more I think about it the more I think I'd have a bitch of a time weeding out a top 50 , let alone putting them in order  :blush

Anyway................speaking of one off side projects that should've lasted and/or got better recognition..........any love for this one??  I can't think of too many rock albums with a better twin guitar attack and I rate this as high as anything from Dokken the band.  Another supergroup that brought it all together with great songs and performances.  I wish Billy White had done more in this vein too - awesome player.

I'd rate this 97% and this sort of stuff is why I have a hard time rating most of the Frontiers style stuff much above 80's because , even though I like a lot of it , most of it isn't in the same league as albums like this from the 90's in terms of songwriting, production etc...

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Don_Dokken_-_Up_from_the_Ashes.jpg)


Mirror Mirror https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDM-7xUkjuo
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 21, 2013, 02:56:56 AM
This and Aeronautics are two of the finest melodic power metal albums ever IMO.  Both are just perfect.

I'd agree. Love the latest album too. you may want to dig out some feelgood music as the Ashes have started (in predictabnle fashion!)  :biggrin:

And I'd agree with Chad that Jorn is better when better writers write for him. His own stuff can be great but it generally plods and he really wants to be DIO II, but for me he is nowhere near.

Brent, I'm no big fan of the westcoast stuff- too soft for me usually. Dann Huff is a great guitarist (and singer) and I love Giant.

I was really disappointed with that Don Dokken album at the time, but it's not as bad as I thought. I really missed George Lynch at the time. I love his tone and try to steal it when I play guitar (badly). Norum was a poor replacement (though I did like him before he went downtuned.

In regards to the top 50 I found it really hard. I still find albums I think should have gone in it but can't think of any I could leave out. Good luck with that - I'll be a follower for that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2013, 03:03:29 AM
This and Aeronautics are two of the finest melodic power metal albums ever IMO.  Both are just perfect.

I'd agree. Love the latest album too. you may want to dig out some feelgood music as the Ashes have started (in predictabnle fashion!)  :biggrin:

Yeah, pretty shitty.  But honestly I can't say I'm surprised with Australia's performance today.  Hopefully Hadden can get some momentum going early in the morning, but he'll just run out of partners too quickly IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2013, 03:06:25 AM
Fair enough mate - I'm surprised you didn't like Up from The Ashes more though..........I really thought Norum was secondary on that to Billy White and he did a great job.  Probably a bit more polished than Dokken and less of an edge.  I rated this high 90's and it may still not make my top 50 haha.

I have no idea where to start with highlighting albums so I just find something and draw a line to something else .............so George Lynch it is.


(https://img.maniadb.com/images/album/174/174721_1_f.jpg)


I love this album but I can see why some might find it a bit patchy with the different vocalists - you're not a big fan of Glenn Hughes are ya?

Anyway - I love the Ray Gillen tracks , the Nelson one is pretty cool , I like the Hughes ones and the instrumentals are fantastic - some of his best work.

I rate this 90% and most of the subtraction from 100 is due to tracks with Mandy Lion - WTF were you thinking George?!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 21, 2013, 03:10:58 AM
No, not a fan of Glenn Hughes usually- in small doses he's ok but I like that Lynch album, though the Beast is a bit strange but just about works. Love Tierra Del Fuego.
Lynch and Dokken were meant to be together a neither were as good solo. Lynch Mob was better than anything else either has come up with apart.

Samples on YT from the Silent Force album- sounding really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdHqyWedBBo&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2013, 03:13:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9u29BGS0QY - Another Red Dragon Cartel song.  I'm not digging this at all.  :'(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2013, 03:16:55 AM
Samples on YT from the Silent Force album- sounding really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdHqyWedBBo&feature=youtu.be

This sounds fucking awesome.  Loving the singer too, should check more of his work.  Alex's guitar sounds amazing too.

It's funny, Silent Force is really the only outfit where IMO Alex's guitar playing really shines.  His work with Voodoo Circle, Primal Fear, David Readman, Kimball/Jamison is all top notch, but for some reason with Silent Force alone, his playing seems to be at another level.  It's weird.

EDIT: I have the album on pre order too. \m/
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2013, 03:46:28 AM
Using my Six Degrees of Inner turbulent separation  :P   I could link to about 50 cool CDs just from the bands mentioned in the last few posts .

The Silent Force does sound good but I feel (like most recent releases) that it's all quite familiar - good but familiar.

Red Dragon Cartel -  not great but better than expected (I was expecting crap).   Jake is one of my all time top few guitarists and , even though I really like Badlands , I feel Ozzy is clearly where he fitted best and it's a shame he only did 2 albums in that vein.  I tell ya ......if a riff comes into my head in the shower it's usually Bark At The Moon - I played that song sooooo many times learning that solo.  But based on what he's done in recent years (and the long breaks etc....) I don't really expect anything great from him again it saddens me to say.

Lynch Mob .................I love the first two albums lowdz and the 2nd as much as the first (although most seem to rate it much lower)  I'm sure you have it but just in case anyone isn't aware of the Jap bonus track from the second....

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/L/LYNCHMOB1.JPG)

Love In Your Eyes  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O3VKa8cos8

if you like Robert Mason ................this isn't wonderful but a rare melodic rock album he was on and has some decent tracks.  I believe this was released without Robert's okay by the guitarist but anyway - if you like his voice might be worth a shot

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/S/SILENTWITNESS_ST.JPG)

Can't Keep from falling  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7w_FrOnvmo


I see Ralf Scheepers is getting a few mentions in other threads.................anyone old enough to admit rocking out to this??

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-j0V0L-6mLQo/TWqrEsBs3lI/AAAAAAAABVA/tUZkpxTHwqE/s1600/Tyran_Pace_-_Long_Live_Metal_-_Front.jpg)

Night Of The Wolves  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyTHOiEe_5s



The new singer for Silent Force is Michael Bormann who has been a real journeyman of late.   I reckon I have 15+ Cd's with him on.   The place to start would be his first biggish gig Jaded Heart


Mystery Eyes (1998)

(https://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQcnQafYN3aHZhxPxaz2e5_EdxpCGuRihu35OwGg4ZP0vS5v7Bx)

Heaven Is Falling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52vr1yYv7es

IV (1999)

(https://www.cdeuroxpress.com/images2/4001617515426.jpg)

Live and Let die https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68R7BCRrnAI

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 21, 2013, 04:15:03 AM
Yeah I lissten to the 2nd Lynch Mob more than the first though i love them both. Not heard the bonus track before and I'd have taken that on the album and let the Japs have the Queen cover as a bonus.

Never really listened to much Jaded Heart.

Jake is one of my guitar heroes too. I've always wanted a blue Charvel ever since I saw him play one for Ozzy.

Like Mason's voice. Thought he lifted the last Warrant album a couple of notches. Was alot better than I expected with no Jani.

Not seen that Ralph Sheepers, though I am certainly old enough!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2013, 04:34:10 AM
Michael Bormann also was on the mic for the Powerworld album from earlier this year, an album I really liked.  "Journeyman" is an understatement.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2013, 04:55:19 AM
Michael Bormann also was on the mic for the Powerworld album from earlier this year, an album I really liked.  "Journeyman" is an understatement.

I did check out a couple of Powerworld songs on your recommendations but that didn't do much for me to be honest.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2013, 07:01:10 AM
Last listen before bed and it's time for some Japanese cuisine

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e5/Loudness_soldier_of_fortune.jpg/220px-Loudness_soldier_of_fortune.jpg)

This is crunchy, ballsy melodic rock at its best and another album that would be a borderline contender for a top 50 list .   I liked Thunder in the East ( lock n loll clazy night  ;D  )  but it all really clicked on this one for me.  I know the band don't rate it at they Americanised it with the addition of Mike Vescera but (like Ozzy's Ultimate Sin) I think dissing this album is a mistake.  Akira Takasaki is on fire.

Three track samples below - the third contains one of my favourite guitar solos

You shook me  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COuY4WC9b3Q   (nice vid  :-X )

red Light Shooter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6DqU9DK6xo

Lost Without Your love  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rpz14H6-gc
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 21, 2013, 07:07:23 AM
The only Loudness I ever had was the double live album Live Loud Alive. It was actually really awesome, but I never really followed them other than that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 21, 2013, 12:56:13 PM
The first two Lynch Mob discs are awesome, so is the Don Dokken solo disc.  I had the two Tyran Pace albums; they are solid, but pretty low budget and I felt Ralf didn't get much of a chance to shine.

Really digging the Silent Force samples; the singer reminds me of Joe Lynn Turner.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 21, 2013, 01:34:22 PM
Never rwally bothered with Loudness 1st time round, don't know why. A mate was into them and had the Lightning Strikes album. I do like some Jap 80s metal- Vow Wow, TKO (awesome!)  and I have the Kuni Masque album on vinyl that I used to love. Don't have it on cd and I'm not payng the silly prices it goes for.

I'm a sucker for Galneryus too- they just make me smile with the over the top widdly widdly. Lke X japan and Versaille too, apart from the tranny porn image  :blush
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2013, 03:46:43 PM
Got its fair share of filler but this one is also pretty solid for those who enjoy Eric Martin belting it out a bit

(https://s.pixogs.com/image/R-1430991-1361723952-9486.jpeg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPCfPZ24r4k
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2013, 03:59:49 PM
You beat me to it this morning lowdz.......................NP - a genre classic and I'll commit to this one.  This WOULD be top 50 for me.

(https://eil.com/images/main/Tesla+-+The+Great+Radio+Controversy+-+Sealed+-+LP+RECORD-445361.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2013, 04:16:43 PM
You beat me to it this morning lowdz.......................NP - a genre classic and I'll commit to this one.  This WOULD be top 50 for me.


#32 on my list.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2013, 04:34:13 PM
Onto another heavy classic

(https://pad.indiemerch.com/i/f/c/fc70bee91b.jpg)


Reign of Fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhJuVyJDvMc

Wish I could link to Tainted Past but ain't on YT.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 21, 2013, 06:10:14 PM
Armored Saint is fantastic; one of the most underrated bands ever
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2013, 06:34:21 PM
Armored Saint is fantastic; one of the most underrated bands ever

Agreed - and a great shame that the album above was their last of that era.  Went out on a high for sure.

Well now I'm in the mood for some "snarly" vocals - first couple that come to mind............

Ratt - Detonator

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6f/DetonatorRatt.jpg/220px-DetonatorRatt.jpg)

Some Ratt diehards say this isn't a real Ratt album due to the very limited contribution from Robin Crosby but I say bollocks  ;D  A ripper of an album that benefitted from a bigger production and  a bit of Desmond Child magic.   Drop one or two fillers and replace with Nobody Rides For Free (link below) which was held over for the Point Break soundtrack and it'd be rated even higher.  As it is I'd rate it 90% - drop a couple and add in NRFF then 95%.  A bit like Journey Frontiers.

Nobody Rides For Free  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY6ZyWH60bs

Shame, Shame,Shame   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71nuNTpU87E


Wildside- Under The Influence

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bVC1nbP8d3k/Toscn-__HnI/AAAAAAAAMrE/mTH8pipBSt4/s1600/Wildside%2B-%2BUnder%2BThe%2BInfluence%2B-%2BFront.jpg)

Another sleazy rock classic - even just for the cover  :tup    Very much a cut above the average in terms of songs and playing in this sort of music.  92/100.

So Far Away  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lf_1nVBKo0

The Clock Strikes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU0hJbkrrO4

if memory serves correct the follow up (attempt to get with the times) was diabolical in comparison.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2013, 09:26:18 PM
you may want to dig out some feelgood music as the Ashes have started (in predictabnle fashion!)  :biggrin:



so you predicted Australia 295 and England 8/91??      ;D      What feelgood music do you recommend ?

seriously though what normally happens here is a 150 run 9th wicket partnership :(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 22, 2013, 01:35:04 AM
you may want to dig out some feelgood music as the Ashes have started (in predictabnle fashion!)  :biggrin:



so you predicted Australia 295 and England 8/91??      ;D      What feelgood music do you recommend ?

seriously though what normally happens here is a 150 run 9th wicket partnership :(

Yeah it was rather predictable. Our batting line up is brittle at best and they let the bowlers down time and again. And there's no-one coming through either. They all look good in county cricket with one man and his dog watching bbut put them in front of a crowd and they bottle it.
Any chance of rain down there?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2013, 02:52:55 AM
Good second day for us.  Hopefully Warner and Rogers can get some momentum early tomorrow and leave you poms in the dust.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 22, 2013, 04:16:47 AM
Good second day for us.  Hopefully Warner and Rogers can get some momentum early tomorrow and leave you poms in the dust.

You are due a test win against us. When was the last one?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2013, 04:26:32 AM
Quiet you.  :P

This is a terrific live cd;

(https://991.com/newgallery/Magnum-Live-From-Birming-582798.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 22, 2013, 06:54:37 AM
Quiet you.  :P

This is a terrific live cd;

(https://991.com/newgallery/Magnum-Live-From-Birming-582798.jpg)

|I think I have the dvd- its hard to know, they released so many- strangely though, the best of the lot still sits in the vault. On The Wings Of Heaven Live. That was a great video.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 22, 2013, 02:01:07 PM
I think the Birmingham one is tough to get now and I think the DVD had only about 10 songs on it.  I've watched most of that Wings of Heaven live show, it's incredible.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 22, 2013, 02:54:11 PM
I think the Birmingham one is tough to get now and I think the DVD had only about 10 songs on it.  I've watched most of that Wings of Heaven live show, it's incredible.

Saw them twice on that tour. They were incredible- even with Bob's camp hand gestures  :biggrin:

It's probably between Magnum and Gary Moore for who I've seen live most. Oh and FM as they seemed to be the support band for everyone back in the 80s.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2013, 07:59:03 PM
Magnum is a band I never really appreciated until recently - I've never got the fuss at all about their more recent stuff  but after a long time of not bothering with them I have finally worked my way back and come around to albums like OASTN.  Actually most of my music purchases now are more about finding missed classics than buying new releases which , for the most part, all sound the same to me - in the melodic rock area at least.   At a guess I would say my most listened to album featuring Bob Catley would actually be The Tower (his solo album with Gary Hughes) which I rate quite highly.

I envy you seeing Gary Moore so often - I never got the chance.  Don't think he ever toured Australia??......  my most seen band by a mile would be KISS purely because they tour Australia very frequently (including their Farewell Tour about 15 years ago  ;D )

I mentioned Wildside as an example of a band who (like most who tried ) failed in their attempt to modernise their sound to cope with the impact of grunge.   One of the very few who succeeded and IMO produced their best album in the process was Liilian Axe with this one..........

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/56/Psychoschizophrenia.jpg)

I think I can remember chatting to you about that one many years back Lowdz - I think it's a bit of an unknown classic
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2013, 02:09:58 AM
Where are you from?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2013, 02:17:18 AM
Hopefully you don't mean "what planet?"  ;D

I'm in melbourne.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2013, 02:28:14 AM
No, I only asked cause I'm form Brisbane.

Anyway, a good result for us in the ashes.  The storms we had up here today were pretty crazy but luckily allowed us to finish the day with a victory.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2013, 02:31:44 AM
yeah - I haven't seen the last couple of wickets but was watching when the hail hit etc.....

Good to see we weren't robbed by the weather as in the last series .   Our batting still looks fragile but the bowlers have surprised me , esp Johnson.   Hopefully he holds it together.  I thought we were in trouble without Pattinson, Cummins, Bird and with Harris liable to keel over at any second.  Fingers crossed  :tup

I hear Clarke and Anderson almost had to be restrained near the end  - not sure what that's all about.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 24, 2013, 03:35:04 AM
Yeah, our batters were completely outplayed. Even when we were no 1 in the world the batters were the worry. It comes down to bottle at Test level and too many of them don't have it. And Peterson is a tool. A talented one but still a tool. Doesn't care what the match situation is.
Anyway, Johnson is a confidence player. He was going all round the park til he got Trott in the over before lunch. If we can give him a bit of a pasting in the next one he'll be dropped again soon enough. Admittedly that is a bloody big if at this point.

Anyway, bacvk on topic, that Lillian Axe is very good but I prefer the three before it, especially Love & War and Poetic Justice. Haven't enjoyed a single thing they've done since Psychoschizophrenia though. I always though Stevie Blaze was a very underrated lead player.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2013, 03:40:11 AM
fair enough - ditto re nothing since that album.   I agree on Stevie Blaze and it's also no coincidence that nothing's clicked without Ron Taylor either.......top singer.  I also enjoy Poetic Justice and Love and War (especially the cover - I have the t-shirt too  :hefdaddy  LOL) but felt that the songwriting went up a notch on Psycho.........and it has a dark mood that is quite awesome .

There was a bonus track on Psycho Jap version (also released on EP) called Here Is Christmas or something that is one of the best Xmas songs by a rock band too - not sure why that came to mind but there you go  ;D

Here it is......  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-8NJ93eNHk
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 24, 2013, 03:49:39 AM
fair enough - ditto re nothing since that album.   I agree on Stevie Blaze and it's also no coincidence that nothing's clicked without Ron Taylor either.......top singer.  I also enjoy Poetic Justice and Love and War (especially the cover - I have the t-shirt too  :hefdaddy  LOL) but felt that the songwriting went up a notch on Psycho.........and it has a dark mood that is quite awesome .

There was a bonus track on Psycho Jap version (also released on EP) called Here Is Christmas or something that is one of the best Xmas songs by a rock band too - not sure why that came to mind but there you go  ;D

Here it is......  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-8NJ93eNHk
I have that on a cd single. Written by Anne and Nancy Wilson of Heart I believe. Nearly time to break out the xmas albums, lol.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 24, 2013, 04:14:05 PM
Well Firefest have outdone themselves this time. Danger Danger (not for the first time) but with Andy Timmons on guitar. Oh my God yes!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2013, 04:16:17 PM
Bloody hell  :hefdaddy  - what we'd give out here for even one gig half as good.  :censored    I presume you've seen that pro shot vid of the Japan Screw It footage?   Awesome band in their prime and Andy smokin it.

BTW I just stumbled onto Ron Taylor's new band Lowside.  A bit average IMO but still love that voice.

https://www.lowside.net/
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 24, 2013, 06:35:17 PM
Holy crow there's some nice looking acts for MRF!!  along with DD and CM that you mentioned in the other thread, Pretty Maids, Heat, Ten, Firehouse, Rage of Angels (wonder how many of the guest vocalists will be there), and (OMG), "Unsigned Band Here"!!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2013, 07:35:51 PM
Wow, I never would have thought that Timmons would go back to Danger Danger, hopefully it turns into an album.  I did like Marcello though, he worked really well with the band on Revolve.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2013, 07:44:54 PM
I can't think of too many melodic rock bands that have produced such a great album so late in their career as D2 did with Revolve - especially in a genre that is so out of vogue.  Bruno Ravel is a bit of a melrock genius.

I've just seen that Firefest lineup and there's a whole heap of bands I'd love to see.  Tower City would be interesting too.   
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2013, 07:49:52 PM
Revolve is actually my fav album from them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2013, 07:55:22 PM
Revolve is actually my fav album from them.

I wouldn't argue that it's not their best-  most of their other albums have a lot more filler than Revolve and it has it's fair share of top notch songs..............so on that basis I'd probably agree.  Cockroach might be up there but it's that long since I listened to it I can hardly remember.

I think they wasted an opportunity with Screw It -  they were obviously at the top of their game with Timmons but chose to fill the album with a whole load of fairly childish stuff at the expense of the songs I feel they were capable of.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 24, 2013, 08:30:52 PM
Revolve is actually my fav album from them.

I wouldn't argue that it's not their best-  most of their other albums have a lot more filler than Revolve and it has it's fair share of top notch songs..............so on that basis I'd probably agree.  Cockroach might be up there but it's that long since I listened to it I can hardly remember.

I think they wasted an opportunity with Screw It -  they were obviously at the top of their game with Timmons but chose to fill the album with a whole load of fairly childish stuff at the expense of the songs I feel they were capable of.

That's my favourite album of theirs by far.

Revolve was the first album I got from them, didn't bother checking out any other albums, and even deleted it. Too weak and tame.
Then I heard Screw It, and loved a lot of the songs, then realized it was the same band I'd passed over a couple of years ago. :facepalm:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2013, 08:34:40 PM
 ;D   A couple of my favourite songs of theirs are on Screw It and like I said - the band are on fire - but for me if I had to rate the albums I'd likely rate Revolve higher purely because (to me at least) Screw It has so much filler.   That live show I mentioned from that tour is D2 at their peak
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2013, 08:35:40 PM
Yeah, for me, I never really got into Screw It at all.  I thought it was a big letdown after the debut.  Saying that, I should get the cd out again.

Cockroach is a pretty good one too.  I got the version with both Paul Laine's and Ted Poley's version, that's cool.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2013, 03:52:01 AM
(https://bravewords-public.s3.amazonaws.com/images/p183l4kpd01e8a1tn1ehg1mpsspd4.jpg)

Just got this in the mail tonight and just gave it a run through.  This needs quite a few listens but it's really really nice.  Great production and the songs are great.  I could do without Down but it's okay.  Billy sounds good and Slamer once again nails the guitars.  The Only One, Time and Time Again, I See You There are the ones that pricked my ears straight away.  Just a great crisp sound, wonderful.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 25, 2013, 04:37:03 AM
I've had it for a while - in a nutshell...........tracks 1-7 (all bloody great), 9&11 (v.good), 8 (Down) and 10 ......average.

On the whole - another great album as expected.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 25, 2013, 11:59:14 AM
Revolve is actually my fav album from them.

I wouldn't argue that it's not their best-  most of their other albums have a lot more filler than Revolve and it has it's fair share of top notch songs..............so on that basis I'd probably agree.  Cockroach might be up there but it's that long since I listened to it I can hardly remember.

I think they wasted an opportunity with Screw It -  they were obviously at the top of their game with Timmons but chose to fill the album with a whole load of fairly childish stuff at the expense of the songs I feel they were capable of.

Screw It is my favourite from them- the guitars were more of a focus. I certainly had no problem with the lyrics as they were fairly typical at the time. I don't want  hair bands preaching at me or giving it the social commnetary, that's not what they're about. And it was party time.

The 1st was too bland for me. Revolve was excellent. cockroach was great (both versions) but they tried the grunge-y route and failed and a few dodgy albums in the middle.
I saw them on the Screw It tour with Timmons supporting Alice cooper (I think or was it KISS?). Marcello was great too but not a patch on Timmons.

I've missed the last few Firefests due to the bands being the same old same old, (and me getting too old!!!) but this lineup excites me.
Babylon AD, CM, Heat, Firehouse doing the first album, Ten, The Poodles, Shy, Pretty Maids,Coney Hatch, Brother Firetribe, friday night has a acoustic show afterwards with The Magnificent. I just have to work out how I'll get to do 3 nights away from the family...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 25, 2013, 03:54:31 PM
I know what you mean about party time etc........many of my favourite songs from that era have ridiculous lyrics.......even some about breaking skool roolz  ;D  To me though that album took the focus on innuendo to a level that detracted from the songs.......not because I'm a prude but because they frustrated me by filling up a lot of space with nothing when Timmons was in his prime .........and all my favourite songs from that album seem to be the slightly more sensible ones   ;D  (beat the Bullet, Crazy Nites, Don't Blame It On Love)

Don't get me wrong..........it's one of my fave albums from that era/style - I just think it had a few meaningless fillers on it that could easily have been better without being Shakespeare.  I still rate it mid-high 80's and above most of their catalogue and I love the performances on it and the tour following.

I wish Andy had played on more of this style around that time - it's a shame we really only got this one and Cockroach and some fill ins here and there.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 25, 2013, 05:06:22 PM
Screw It was a couple of curse words away from being a Steel Panther album.

But, it's still a great glam album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2013, 05:40:08 PM
I'm definitely gonna give it another spin I think.  Maybe I've been missing something.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 26, 2013, 01:40:51 AM
Screw It was a couple of curse words away from being a Steel Panther album.

But, it's still a great glam album.

SP didn't have to look far for their "inspiration!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 26, 2013, 02:31:20 AM
Screw It was a couple of curse words away from being a Steel Panther album.

But, it's still a great glam album.

What do you mean "but"? That lyrical content is what makes a good glam album! :metal

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 26, 2013, 03:54:50 AM
From melodicrock.com

A fourth Allen / Lande album is now being written for release in 2014 - but the mastermind behind the original trilogy of releases - Magnus Karlsson - has passed on the baton to Timo Tolki to write and produce the next album.

Confirmed.  :facepalm:  This is a travesty.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on November 26, 2013, 04:09:08 AM
Yeah, I don't have high hopes for that album now. I honestly can't remember the last time Tolkki made something that I actually enjoyed, it's been a while.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 26, 2013, 04:11:17 AM
Yeah, I don't have high hopes for that album now. I honestly can't remember the last time Tolkki made something that I actually enjoyed, it's been a while.

I liked the first RR album, that was pretty damn solid, even if it was incredibly simple and generic.  The other two were pretty crap and Symfonia was a trainwreck, and not to mention Avalon which was probably the worst new release of 2013.  Also on melodicrock it says he is in the studio already doing the second Avalon album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on November 26, 2013, 04:25:27 AM
I liked the first RR album, that was pretty damn solid, even if it was incredibly simple and generic.  The other two were pretty crap and Symfonia was a trainwreck, and not to mention Avalon which was probably the worst new release of 2013.  Also on melodicrock it says he is in the studio already doing the second Avalon album.
I never warmed up to that first RR album, and I didn't even bother with either of the other two. I agree with you on Symphonia and Avalon though.

I'll most likely keep listening to whatever he puts out and give it a chance, I just don't have any real expectations anymore.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 26, 2013, 04:28:00 AM
I liked the first RR album, that was pretty damn solid, even if it was incredibly simple and generic.  The other two were pretty crap and Symfonia was a trainwreck, and not to mention Avalon which was probably the worst new release of 2013.  Also on melodicrock it says he is in the studio already doing the second Avalon album.
I never warmed up to that first RR album, and I didn't even bother with either of the other two. I agree with you on Symphonia and Avalon though.

I'll most likely keep listening to whatever he puts out and give it a chance, I just don't have any real expectations anymore.

That's pretty much what I think too.  I just don't see what he could possibly do for Allen/Lande 4.  I wonder if Magnus just passed on it cause he's busy with Primal Fear, or if Frontiers wanted Tolkki to do it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 26, 2013, 06:34:49 AM
Yeah, this is not good news for Allen/Lande.  I think we're all in the same boat... we'll give it a shot, but there's no optimism at all.  We know that Jorn's talent alone can't compensate for bad writing.  The opening RR trilogy isn't awful, but I'm not compelled to spin it on any regular basis.  Haven't even heard the last 2.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 26, 2013, 07:09:24 AM
It's going to suck. Double bass drums at 1000mph constantly, simple riffs. Cheesy melodies. Not even these two mighty voices can save it from TT.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 26, 2013, 07:20:53 AM
So classic power metal then  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 26, 2013, 07:24:37 AM
So classic power metal then  ;D

Yeah, if not done well. There's plenty of good power metal, and TT was responsible for some of it. Not recently though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 26, 2013, 11:04:48 AM
I'm not really familiar with Tolkki. Is he just a ham n egger? No matter what, I'm looking forward to the 4th release and with Allen/Lande together, I can't see it being a poor album no matter what.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 26, 2013, 11:50:33 AM
I'm not really familiar with Tolkki. Is he just a ham n egger? No matter what, I'm looking forward to the 4th release and with Allen/Lande together, I can't see it being a poor album no matter what.

On that, you are wrong.  TT was the primary writer in Stratovarious.  He hasn't written anything decent in quite some time.  His 'Avalon' rock opera this year was my disappointment of the year.  With vocalists like Allen, Elize Ryd, Rob Rock, Sharon den Adel, Simone Simons, and Kiske, you'd think it would be a sure-fire home run.

Nope, turd-of-the-year.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 26, 2013, 11:52:00 AM
Yikes!!

Stratovarious was hit or miss for me
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 26, 2013, 11:59:13 AM
I'd say he was a ham n egg-er really. His good stuff with Starto was fairly standard stuff. Some diamonds among the rough certainly. Many better bands out there. He was helped by Kotipelto being a great singer. In fact I enjoy the Kotipelto albums as good as any Stratovarius albums.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 26, 2013, 05:27:19 PM
I'd say he was a ham n egg-er really. His good stuff with Starto was fairly standard stuff. Some diamonds among the rough certainly. Many better bands out there. He was helped by Kotipelto being a great singer. In fact I enjoy the Kotipelto albums as good as any Stratovarius albums.

I'm a huge Strato fan, but pretty much this.  The first two Kotipelto albums were amazing.

Stratovarius were great with Episode, Infinite, Visions, Destiny and Elements Pt1.  Even the old stuff like Twilight Time was pretty awesome.  The last two albums Tolkki did with Strato was the start of his song writing decline.  Strato always used a formula which worked and was definitely helped by excellent musicians, but nothing he has ever done would come close to the scope of songwriting that Karlsson does with these vocalists.  Karlsson has made Allen/Lande a more melodic rock even AOR project showing a nice different side of these two vocalists, and simply just writing amazing songs again and again. 

Listen to Allen on any song Karlsson has written for him and then listen to Allen on Avalon, it's night and day.  I really don't know what Frontiers are thinking handing this project over.  I don't see why Karlsson wouldn't want to do another album with them to be honest, and while the Showdown is the weakest out of the three, it's still better than anything Tolkki has put together since 2003.  It would be interesting to see what Rus and Jorn think about it too, and their reactions when they get sent the material from Tolkki.  I don't see why they wouldn't want to work with Karlsson again either after three albums.  I think this is going to be a disaster.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 27, 2013, 05:21:00 AM
Just got this and have had a listen through;

(https://www.angrymetalguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Edens-Curse-Symphony-of-Sin-500x497.jpg)

Pretty solid, but the songs on first listen sort of blended together.  It sounds quite different to previous efforts too.  I wish they re-recorded a version of Time To Breathe with this new bloke and put it on there.  Has potential with more listens too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 27, 2013, 05:43:53 AM
Just got this and have had a listen through;

(https://www.angrymetalguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Edens-Curse-Symphony-of-Sin-500x497.jpg)

Pretty solid, but the songs on first listen sort of blended together.  It sounds quite different to previous efforts too.  I wish they re-recorded a version of Time To Breathe with this new bloke and put it on there.  Has potential with more listens too.

Yeah, I enjoyed it while I was listening but not very memorable after.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 27, 2013, 06:02:24 AM

Yeah, I enjoyed it while I was listening but not very memorable after.

Ditto - the new guy can sing but (whatever you think of the old guy) they're missing the disctinctive snarling vocal of the old stuff IMO.   This just blends in with everyone else I find and is also a few tracks too long.

Solid album but I agree it's not something you rush back to for repeat listens
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 27, 2013, 06:17:37 AM
Great jugs on the album cover
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 27, 2013, 02:02:05 PM
Yeah, I enjoyed it while I was listening but not very memorable after.

I thought that too, so decided to spin it again today.  It's leaving a very nice impression on me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 27, 2013, 05:01:42 PM
I'm gonna give it quite a few spins, I think it has potential.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 28, 2013, 07:40:36 AM
If you have a spare 10-15k to throw around then there's some very nice Europe guitars for sale celebrating their 30th ann here:

https://www.stadsauktion.se/auktion/sok/?u=0&sok=europe



Some bad news for me - looks like I might have to miss Paul Laine gig (the only one in sight I really want to see) due to a parent going into hospital that day.......minor procedure but still...................who knows, maybe I can still swing it  :\   ;D   

And in a totally underwhelming development I have bought a couple of Bon Jovi tix (slashed from $150+ to $35........which is about the max I'd pay.) - gives me something to do on a Sunday.    I saw them on the New Jersey tour (my first gig) when they meant something to me but these days  :P  I really couldn't care less.   Anyway - the missus (target audience) likes them so what the hell.  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2013, 08:38:37 AM
New Jersey is a great album. I also saw them many times in the 80's including their first tour in 1984 opening for Scorpions.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 28, 2013, 02:11:03 PM
New Jersey is a great album. I also saw them many times in the 80's including their first tour in 1984 opening for Scorpions.

First 4 BJ albums are great (though 7800f's production is shite). New Jersey made my top 50. Wild horses and free tickets couldn't get me to a Jon Bon Jovi show these days (geddit?  :biggrin:). Soulless, Countrified, Coldplay-field old man's music. I used to rate Richie, his first solo album was classic, but his next two are total crap.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 28, 2013, 02:33:49 PM
I never liked any Bon Jovi at all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 28, 2013, 03:11:30 PM
New Jersey is a great album. I also saw them many times in the 80's including their first tour in 1984 opening for Scorpions.

First 4 BJ albums are great (though 7800f's production is shite). New Jersey made my top 50. Wild horses and free tickets couldn't get me to a Jon Bon Jovi show these days (geddit?  :biggrin:). Soulless, Countrified, Coldplay-field old man's music. I used to rate Richie, his first solo album was classic, but his next two are total crap.



You don't even get Richie at the moment - I actually think going along is really going to irritate me but , truth be told , it's with the other half in mind.    I like the first 4 too and perhaps Dry County off the next and I think maybe one track from the rest of their career I find listenable ;D  (Last Man STanding - it has something resembling a riff ).   if I was of your vintage wolfking - quite  a bit younger - I doubt I'd like em at all either.  You had to be there  :\
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 28, 2013, 03:20:53 PM
New Jersey is a great album. I also saw them many times in the 80's including their first tour in 1984 opening for Scorpions.

First 4 BJ albums are great (though 7800f's production is shite). New Jersey made my top 50. Wild horses and free tickets couldn't get me to a Jon Bon Jovi show these days (geddit?  :biggrin:). Soulless, Countrified, Coldplay-field old man's music. I used to rate Richie, his first solo album was classic, but his next two are total crap.




You don't even get Richie at the moment - I actually think going along is really going to irritate me but , truth be told , it's with the other half in mind.    I like the first 4 too and perhaps Dry County off the next and I think maybe one track from the rest of their career I find listenable ;D  (Last Man STanding - it has something resembling a riff ).   if I was of your vintage wolfking - quite  a bit younger - I doubt I'd like em at all either.  You had to be there  :\

Dry County could be the best song they ever wrote. I actually like the Have A Nice day album but that was rare after the big 4. The rot started with Keep The faith. I first saw them supporting KISS in 84 (I think) and saw them several times up to the early 90s.
Yeah I realise  Richie isn't there- it is just the JBJ show now. As soon as a rock band needs half a dozen extra musicians on stage (and off) it's game over.
We all have to do these things for our other halves. I've had to go and see Pink, Beverley Knight, Steve Harley... so even JBJ is better than that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 28, 2013, 03:22:32 PM
Correct  ;D  Pink is  bigger than anyone out here.  She can sell out dozens of stadium shows on a tour and to be fair (chalk this one up for any modern pop artist) she does have some vocal chops.  She'd do so much better for herself if she put them to good use singing melodic metal   :metal   ;D

Now I come to think of it when I saw Jovi in '89 they were supported by Roxus - good gig.

I don't know if I'm being fair to him but after seeing an on the road doco about Bon Jovi I couldn't stand the guy either - up himself would be an understatement.   Theoretically it shouldn't make any difference whether the artist is a dickhead to your enjoyment of the performance but with him it just might make it even more annoying - a bit like going to see a Tom Cruise/Mel Gibson movie these days .......I can't help but feel it's not the same  :D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 29, 2013, 04:20:01 AM
Who the hell is playing guitar for him now anyway, someone we know?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 29, 2013, 06:01:46 AM
Who the hell is playing guitar for him now anyway, someone we know?

Phil X I think  - session guitarist and the go-to man whenever they've needed to replace Sambora.  He also played on Edge of Excess when Rik Emmett was out of Triumph.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2013, 12:57:21 PM
Who the hell is playing guitar for him now anyway, someone we know?

Phil X I think  - session guitarist and the go-to man whenever they've needed to replace Sambora.  He also played on Edge of Excess when Rik Emmett was out of Triumph.

Which is a pretty decent album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on November 29, 2013, 01:21:42 PM
Correct  ;D  Pink is  bigger than anyone out here.  She can sell out dozens of stadium shows on a tour and to be fair (chalk this one up for any modern pop artist) she does have some vocal chops.  She'd do so much better for herself if she put them to good use singing melodic metal   :metal   ;D

Now I come to think of it when I saw Jovi in '89 they were supported by Roxus - good gig.

I don't know if I'm being fair to him but after seeing an on the road doco about Bon Jovi I couldn't stand the guy either - up himself would be an understatement.   Theoretically it shouldn't make any difference whether the artist is a dickhead to your enjoyment of the performance but with him it just might make it even more annoying - a bit like going to see a Tom Cruise/Mel Gibson movie these days .......I can't help but feel it's not the same  :D

I dunno about that, from what I've seen, donating time and money to various charities and more recent giving away a fan at a wedding, he seems okay to me.
For $35 I might go along to see him, even without the real  'unknown' star Richie.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2013, 02:12:50 PM
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A Life To Die For officially came out throughout entire Europe today. Dont forget the amount of digipack versions (CD + DVD) is limited, so hurry up!

To mark the release day we decided to entertain you a little with a lyric video for the radio version of the title track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97KICGmPzmI

Me likey.  Everything you'd expect from Royal Hunt with DC on the vocals.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 29, 2013, 03:16:04 PM
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A Life To Die For officially came out throughout entire Europe today. Dont forget the amount of digipack versions (CD + DVD) is limited, so hurry up!

To mark the release day we decided to entertain you a little with a lyric video for the radio version of the title track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97KICGmPzmI

Me likey.  Everything you'd expect from Royal Hunt with DC on the vocals.

Listening to the album now on Spotify and it's very good. I don't love the vocals. I really miss John West. DC isn't bad, just lacks the power of JW.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 29, 2013, 03:22:08 PM
Royal Hunt is a band that I gave not  spent any time with.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 29, 2013, 03:34:26 PM
Royal Hunt is a band that I gave not  spent any time with.

Fear was in my top 50. Great album. They have a very distinct and recognisable style. NOt all bass drums at a 1000 miles an hour like alot of Eurometal, and more neo-classical. Worth a try TAC.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 29, 2013, 03:44:46 PM
New song is pretty cool.  Nothing spectacular but solid enough.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 29, 2013, 04:19:14 PM
Can't say that much from Royal Hunt has overly impressed me, even with DC. 

But I just picked up DC Coopers solo disc based on this thread.  Its real and its spectacular!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on November 29, 2013, 10:05:26 PM
Definitely gets better, opening riff is terrible, but gets a lot better.
Typical RH style though and I love it.
I do prefer John West on vox, but DC is also great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2013, 04:14:28 AM
I've had the new Eden's Curse on repeat and I gotta say it's fantastic.  The songs really have opened up and the new vocalist is terrific.  Could be their best album to date, but Trinity is still giving it tough competition.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 02, 2013, 02:22:03 PM
Primal Fear - When Death Comes Knocking - Official / New Studio Album 2014): https://t.co/Hp0JBoRf1a

meh.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 02, 2013, 03:37:40 PM
Primal Fear - When Death Comes Knocking - Official / New Studio Album 2014): https://t.co/Hp0JBoRf1a

meh.

It's ok.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2013, 05:04:05 PM
Will have to check it out later tonight when I'm not at work.  Looking forward to it though, I liked the sample.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 02, 2013, 05:28:34 PM
pretty standard fare for Primal Fear
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 02, 2013, 10:13:42 PM
pretty standard fare for Primal Fear

Sub standard, IMO.  But still better than Tolkki.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 03, 2013, 01:13:03 AM
pretty standard fare for Primal Fear

Sub standard, IMO.  But still better than Tolkki.

True.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 03, 2013, 02:02:30 AM
Yeah, actually it is sub standard.  Hopefully the rest of the disc is better then this tune.

Don't like the sounds of this Tolkki dude.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2013, 03:52:58 AM
Yeah, actually it is sub standard.  Hopefully the rest of the disc is better then this tune.

Don't like the sounds of this Tolkki dude.

 :lol  Just stick to his old shit and you'll be fine.

Okay, I've listened to the song.  I like the riff, it's obviously Karlsson's songwriting with that riff.  The verses rip off One With The World from Gamma Ray, but it's not that bad.  I guess it's pretty boombastic and the chorus is over the top.  The chorus is nothing special but I like the way it resorts back to the main riff.

As much as I love Primal Fear and Karlsson, and I do enjoy this song, I think Karlsson is actually at his weakest in Primal Fear for some reason.  He's just not really metal, he's melodic with a hint of prog.  I think that's why Primal Fear's direction has shifted.  It's not so much being with Frontiers, it's Karlsson.  It's not a bad thing, because everything he does is still quality, and the last three albums have been solid material, but Primal Fear will never be what they were, especially without Stefan and Tom.  Those two along with Ralf and Sinner were the heart and soul of Primal Fear.  Even Henny had a good place.  Now it's just different, and to me since Karlsson's teaming with Scheepers and Sinner, it just feels like a different band to me.  It's like they should be taking a more melodic route like Karlsson was doing with Last Tribe but they feel they need to keep this anthemetic and tough guy shit because they are still Primal Fear.  I know I'm a fan boy, but I think I need to say that, I've been thinking it for a while but the new song confirms it.

Anyway, believe it or not I enjoy the song a look forward to the album, but just think each member is stornger when they are not working together.

Also, I think the video is quite excellent.  It's had a bit of a budget and is nicely shot and actually enjoyable to watch, and doesn't make the meat and potatoes metal band look stupid, the band actually looks quite classy IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 03, 2013, 04:34:29 AM
^Can't disagree with much of that.  I just still think the song is pretty 'meh' after one listen.  I'll still pickup the album, and still believe it will be pretty solid.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2013, 05:10:01 AM
There's obvious edits in the song too, so I'm sure the album version will be a bit longer.  I enjoy it though, but it's just nothing jaw dropping.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 03, 2013, 08:15:20 AM
There are usually one or two weaker songs on each Primal Fear album; but they are a reliable band when it comes to great discs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2013, 04:37:11 PM
There are usually one or two weaker songs on each Primal Fear album; but they are a reliable band when it comes to great discs.

There's really not one album that I would consider less than average.  Even with all the changes they have gone through, every album is very solid.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 03, 2013, 05:19:33 PM
Their latest, Unbreakable, is probably my least played album from them.  But yeah, every disc from them ranges from very good- outstanding.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 05, 2013, 04:31:17 AM
Silent Force - Circle of Trust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDh3lZas0lA

Meh, not bad, but a bit more flashy and reminds me more of his Voodoo Circle project than Silent Force.  The main riff sounds exactly like something from Malmsteen, but I can't put my finger on it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 05, 2013, 05:09:30 AM
I really like this tune.  Its a totally different sound for Silent Force, but sounds really good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 05, 2013, 01:49:45 PM
Silent Force - Circle of Trust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDh3lZas0lA

Meh, not bad, but a bit more flashy and reminds me more of his Voodoo Circle project than Silent Force.  The main riff sounds exactly like something from Malmsteen, but I can't put my finger on it.

I don't hear the Malmsteen thing. Also it doesn't sound exactly like Whtesnake 1987 so not very Voodoo Circle  :biggrin: i like it. Heavier than AOR and more hard rock than metal. My kinda thing. Great vocal too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 05, 2013, 08:31:38 PM
It's not exactly like Voodoo Circle, but to me it's more that than Silent Force.  The rest of the samples were promising so I'm sure there's some harder edged stuff on there.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 05, 2013, 08:39:26 PM
New vocalist sounds really good too
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 05, 2013, 08:44:07 PM
Not rapt in it myself but that's got something to do with me already having heaps of albums with Bormann and this doesn't sound too much different to most of them and probably not as good as a lot of the Jaded Heart/Charade stuff  -  more Jaded heart style melodic rock than what I was expecting from Silent Force.  The guitar sound is that muddy at the start I can hardly hear the riff to know if it sounds like Malmsteen .  Bormann looks like he may have stolen some of Yngwie's donuts though since I last saw him. :)

It's certainly not terrible and I'll check out some other tracks before rushing to judgement on the whole album.

Bormann is a good singer but I wouldn't say he's versatile.  I  feel like I've heard this all before.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 05, 2013, 09:18:08 PM
Silent Force - Circle of Trust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDh3lZas0lA

Meh, not bad, but a bit more flashy and reminds me more of his Voodoo Circle project than Silent Force.  The main riff sounds exactly like something from Malmsteen, but I can't put my finger on it.

Not sure I hear the Yngvie either.  I dug the tune.  The only Bormann vocals I know is Cybersteria, and I really like that album.  Looking forward to the whole album
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2013, 04:33:15 AM
It's just the little riff at 0:22 seconds that reminds me of Yngwie.  Reminds me heavily of this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsuC30pIMss]

I know they don't sound the same, just reminded me of this song as soon as I heard it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 06, 2013, 04:44:45 AM
I still don't hear it  :P  - I love Trilogy though  :tup   That was my first Yngwie album purchased around the time of release (with great difficulty) - picture a young 12yo kid doing the rounds of the record stores like Brashs trying to explain to the other young kids at the counter that I want to order some Ing-vay Marmsteen  ;D  Who?? 

Good to have a song about the circle of trust too

(https://www.futuregamez.net/movies/littlefockers/littlefockers2.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2013, 08:42:40 PM
Johnson has just torn the poms apart.  Looks like the Aussies are gunning for another win.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 07, 2013, 04:08:04 AM
Johnson has just torn the poms apart.  Looks like the Aussies are gunning for another win.

Our crap spineless batsmen have been well and truly found out. Scared of a little pace? Jesus, get another job. We've been really bad for a couple of years but the bowlers bailed us out. Not this time. There really is no-one in the wings either. It's not even as though your boys have had to play particularly well.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2013, 03:14:43 AM
Johnson has just torn the poms apart.  Looks like the Aussies are gunning for another win.

Our crap spineless batsmen have been well and truly found out. Scared of a little pace? Jesus, get another job. We've been really bad for a couple of years but the bowlers bailed us out. Not this time. There really is no-one in the wings either. It's not even as though your boys have had to play particularly well.

That's the thing, the Aussies haven't played that spectacular, Johnson has been their saving grace.  Perhaps if it weren't for him, we may have had a bit more of a battle on our hands.  You guys aren't looking much better in the second innings.  Should be all over tomorrow.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 08, 2013, 07:58:30 AM
Unfortunately I missed Paul Laine on Tuesday due to that family illness (I heard it was fantastic  >:(  )   but I've just got home from Bon Jovi which was a huge consolation  :yeahright

A quick pro/con:


PROS:

- good crowd in (45,000 or so country fans for the second night running - although they did need to discount to fill up the 2nd night.  Still a good effort) and when he got everyone to light up their phones there was some serious atmosphere.  A wide range of age groups were there - everything from hot young vixens  :tup to the elderly.
-  the stage and sound were really cool -   the stage was done up as the front of a huge Buick with the bonnet/headlights fixed and with little monitors in the grille and a big monitor above changing the look of the windscreen/scenery etc........very well done.
-  Phil X did a good job of replacing Richie both vocally and on geetar....and used a different guitar for almost every song.   He also provided the vocal highlight of the night singing You Shook Me All Night Long in full during a little covers medley they did.  Funnily enough a number of people who'd sat down all night stood up for the ACDC song  ;D
- JBJ put in an energetic performance ,as did the whole band.  They certainly weren't on cruise control.
- the show was almost 3 hours


CONS:

- the songs were mostly a snooze.   I'd say 50% were from the last few albums and another 20-25% were either more of their country bollocks or their poppy rock (It's My Life, HAND etc...)  Nothing from the first two albums at all -  songs they did off SWW through KTF were (as best I can recall) ..........Livin On A Prayer, You Give Love A Bad Name, Wanted Dead or Alive, Raise Your Hands, Bad Medicine, Born To Be My Baby, Keep The Faith, Dry County.  JBJ looked like Peter Allen shaking his maracas during Keep The Faith.
- JBJ's voice............aside from commercial reasons I can see why he's gone country - his voice is even more shot than I expected.  He has the range of Billy Ray Cyrus and when he struggles to even get close to notes on the early stuff it's pretty painful........a monotone whine is the best I can describe it.  Whatever range he has vanishes when he tries to sing with power.  The modern stuff he handles well enough.  Shame - as the band did a ripping version of Dry County

- JBJ also seems to have a bit of the embarrassing old uncle dance moves creeping in that he may have picked up from David Lee Roth.   These ex kings of the stage are starting to look their age , although I'm pretty sure his shiny teeth aren't near as old  ;D   He likes himself plenty and there were lots of intense pouts at the camera and almost evangelical moments as he worked his flock , but on the whole I think he really came to play and put on a good show.



Overall I'm happy enough with what I got after my 75% discount but also glad I didn't stump up full price.  I've never been the biggest Aerosmith fan but this is just another gig that makes me marvel at what I've seen Steve Tyler do live recently - both in terms of singing and stage presence.  He blows everyone else away and he's another decade or more older than these guys..



Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2013, 03:48:56 AM
Nice and entertaining review.  :lol  Yeah, the stuff I've seen from Bon Jovi lately, his vocals are just awful.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 09, 2013, 07:57:15 AM
Why Floor?  Why!?!?!?!

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Floor Jansen is the main vocalist on Avalon II, the album and European tour planned for May 2014
The Nightwish/ReVamp singer Floor Jansen will appear in the leading role on the next album of Timo Tolkkis Avalon Metal Opera.

Jansen is the main vocalist on the album and sings lead vocals on the first single and promotional video. The release date for both single and the video is planned for March. The recordings are currently taking place in East Sound Studios in Helsinki, Finland. Jansen joins the cast that already includes Epica singer Simone Simons and the reunion of the early Stratovarius. Lineup: Tuomo Lassila on drums (the founder of Stratovarius) and Antti Ikonen on keyboards (the original keyboard player of Stratovarius).

A European Tour is also planned for May 2014, to coincide with the release of the album. More details on the live lineup and dates will be revealed later.

Timo Tolkki comments straight from the studio: I am right now recording probably the best vocalist I have worked with in my whole career. This has been a jaw dropping experience and I thought I have already seen it all. Floor has proven me wrong. For example in the 10 minute title track of the album, she delivers in my opinion the best vocals of her career so far. This song is probably the biggest sounding of my whole career and Floor simply makes it an astonishing, almost breathtaking experience! We are both surprised of how amazing this has turned out to be and both very happy to hear how amazing it sounds.


I can only pray it's not as bad as the first!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 09, 2013, 12:05:55 PM
Sorry for the double post, but more news.  This, unlike above, excites me.

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Frontiers Records is pleased to announce the release of the anticipated HOUSE OF LORDS brand new studio album entitled "Precious Metal" on February 21st in Europe and February 24th in North America.

PREORDER NOW on Amazon.com: https://www.amazon.com/Precious-Metal-...

"Precious Metal" is HOUSE OF LORDS' ninth studio album, following up the critically acclaimed "Big Money". This brand new release, recorded and produced by the band's singer and mastermind James Christian, again has a stellar sound, with solid and baroque songwriting mixed with unique melodic sensibilities and amazing musical skills.

Musically "Precious Metal" shows a return to the roots of the band's sound. James Christian as usual sings his heart out and he sounds better than ever on these new songs. Guitarist Jimi Bell shines with heavy, but melodic riffs throughout the album, with Chris McCarville and BJ Zampa bringing a solid and powerful rhythm foundation to the House of Lords sound.

In James Christian's words: "When we started to write this record, we knew after the 1st song that we were on to something special. The energy level was off the charts for all of us. Jimi Bell came out swinging and BJ and Chris were just crushing it. Recording this album was very easy as the songs already had arrangements that were complete. Precious Metal is a testament to years of being a band that loves what they do and has so much more to offer in the years to come."

House of Lords debuted in 1989 with the release of the self-titled album, a monumental Arena Hard Rock release which showcased the soaring vocals of James Christian and instrumental capabilities of the band (which featured ex Angel and Giuffria Gregg Giuffria, along with such luminaries as Lanny Cordola, Chuck Wright and Ken Mary), reminiscent of such frontrunners as Whitesnake, Deep Purple and Van Halen, immediately brought the band to the attention of the media and fans. After another 2 albums released until 2002, House of Lords went into hibernation until the original lineup came back together in 2000, releasing of the controversial "Power and the Myth" an album which featured a sound leaning more towards Progressive Hard Rock with 70's rock influences.

After a short European tour, singer James Christian decided to go back to the trademark Arena Rock sound of House Of Lords, putting together a new line-up. Since 2006 the band has a stable line-up featuring Jimi Bell on guitars, B.J. Zampa on drums and Chris McCarvill on bass which has been delivering impressive shows and fine releases such as "World Upside Down, "Come to My Kingdom", "Cartesian Dreams" and the recent "Big Money".

"Precious Metal" tracklisting includes the following tracks:
Battle; I'm Breakin' Free; Epic; Live Every Day (Like Its The Last); Permission To Die; Precious Metal; Swimmin' With The Sharks; Raw; Enemy Mine; Action; Turn Back The Tide; You Might Just Save My Life.

EPK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydKINDdQWy8&feature=youtu.be&a with a few sound bites intertwined with an interview.  I dig it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2013, 01:04:14 PM
Fuck yeah, looking forward to that HOL.  I thought Big Money was an excellent album.

I don't give a shit about Tolkki anymore.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 09, 2013, 01:10:15 PM
Ya know, I went back to give Avalon another shot today.  It had a couple of moments of decency, but on the whole was just a big let down.  Vocal performances were all over the board, as were the melodies.  I'll give the next one a try, only because of Floor (and to some extent Simone).  But I'm not expecting anything.  Maybe that will help.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 09, 2013, 01:53:14 PM
Love HoL so looking forward to this. just hope the production is up to the job, unlike Christian's last solo effort.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 09, 2013, 02:13:21 PM
Ya know, I went back to give Avalon another shot today.  It had a couple of moments of decency, but on the whole was just a big let down.  Vocal performances were all over the board, as were the melodies.  I'll give the next one a try, only because of Floor (and to some extent Simone).  But I'm not expecting anything.  Maybe that will help.

Based on this Tolki guy doing the next Allen/Lande album, I went out and checked out some of Avalon on youtube.  Didn't even finish a song, not impressed.  Surprising consider some of the talent involved.  Now I'm worried for Allen/Lande 4 officially.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 09, 2013, 02:16:43 PM
Ya know, I went back to give Avalon another shot today.  It had a couple of moments of decency, but on the whole was just a big let down.  Vocal performances were all over the board, as were the melodies.  I'll give the next one a try, only because of Floor (and to some extent Simone).  But I'm not expecting anything.  Maybe that will help.

Based on this Tolki guy doing the next Allen/Lande album, I went out and checked out some of Avalon on youtube.  Didn't even finish a song, not impressed.  Surprising consider some of the talent involved.  Now I'm worried for Allen/Lande 4 officially.

yeah he's lost the plot over the last few years. I actually went back recently and checked out some of the older Stratovarius albums and they were excellent. I only really had a best of and a couple of albums from Infinite onwards. They were ok but not earth shaking.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 09, 2013, 02:26:45 PM
Ya know, I went back to give Avalon another shot today.  It had a couple of moments of decency, but on the whole was just a big let down.  Vocal performances were all over the board, as were the melodies.  I'll give the next one a try, only because of Floor (and to some extent Simone).  But I'm not expecting anything.  Maybe that will help.

Based on this Tolki guy doing the next Allen/Lande album, I went out and checked out some of Avalon on youtube.  Didn't even finish a song, not impressed.  Surprising consider some of the talent involved.  Now I'm worried for Allen/Lande 4 officially.

Jay... unfortunately, that's exactly what we were trying to tell you.   :-\ 

yeah he's lost the plot over the last few years. I actually went back recently and checked out some of the older Stratovarius albums and they were excellent. I only really had a best of and a couple of albums from Infinite onwards. They were ok but not earth shaking.

I was listening to Revolution Renaissance/Trinity today.  That's also a good album by TT, only 3 years old.  How could he be making such tripe now?  I can only hope some of what he displayed in the past will come back with Avalon II and Allen/Lande 4.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 09, 2013, 02:50:15 PM
Let's hope so. Jorn certainly doesn't need another crap album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2013, 03:49:23 PM
It would be interesting to see how Jorn and Rus react to new material from the project from Tolkki considering the quality they have been delivered with Karlsson.  This is gonna bomb.

Love HoL so looking forward to this. just hope the production is up to the job, unlike Christian's last solo effort.



Yeah, it ruined the songs really.  Also Big Money was a winner but was weak in the production department.

Ya know, I went back to give Avalon another shot today.  It had a couple of moments of decency, but on the whole was just a big let down.  Vocal performances were all over the board, as were the melodies.  I'll give the next one a try, only because of Floor (and to some extent Simone).  But I'm not expecting anything.  Maybe that will help.

Based on this Tolki guy doing the next Allen/Lande album, I went out and checked out some of Avalon on youtube.  Didn't even finish a song, not impressed.  Surprising consider some of the talent involved.  Now I'm worried for Allen/Lande 4 officially.

yeah he's lost the plot over the last few years. I actually went back recently and checked out some of the older Stratovarius albums and they were excellent. I only really had a best of and a couple of albums from Infinite onwards. They were ok but not earth shaking.

Pretty much everything he did from Elements 1 backwards was quality.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on December 09, 2013, 08:08:48 PM
Pretty much everything he did from Elements 1 backwards was quality.
Yeah, the first Elements is probably the last Tolkki album that I liked. Elements Part 2 was already pretty shaky and I thought the Stratovarius s/t was terrible, with everything since being similar in quality or worse.

The sad part is that the Elements albums were released in 2003. It's literally been a decade since Tolkki put out something that I thought was good. :(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2013, 03:42:25 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/joe-lynn-turner-joins-forces-with-carmine-appice-tony-franklin-jeff-watson/

Legendary vocalist Joe Lynn Turner (RAINBOW, DEEP PURPLE, YNGWIE MALMSTEEN) revealed to Anderson Guimaraes of The Rainbow Fanclan Legacy that he has launched a brand new band called LEGACY X with drummer Carmine Appice (VANILLA FUDGE, CACTUS), bassist Tony Franklin (THE FIRM, BLUE MURDER) and guitarist Jeff Watson (NIGHT RANGER, MOTHER'S ARMY). Watson joined the group as the replacement for Bruce Kulick (KISS, GRAND FUNK RAILROAD), who was unable to commit to the new project due to his heavy touring schedule with GRAND FUNK RAILROAD.

Good shit!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2013, 04:00:31 AM
The HOL samples sound pretty standard and safe, but very solid.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 10, 2013, 04:22:46 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/joe-lynn-turner-joins-forces-with-carmine-appice-tony-franklin-jeff-watson/

Legendary vocalist Joe Lynn Turner (RAINBOW, DEEP PURPLE, YNGWIE MALMSTEEN) revealed to Anderson Guimaraes of The Rainbow Fanclan Legacy that he has launched a brand new band called LEGACY X with drummer Carmine Appice (VANILLA FUDGE, CACTUS), bassist Tony Franklin (THE FIRM, BLUE MURDER) and guitarist Jeff Watson (NIGHT RANGER, MOTHER'S ARMY). Watson joined the group as the replacement for Bruce Kulick (KISS, GRAND FUNK RAILROAD), who was unable to commit to the new project due to his heavy touring schedule with GRAND FUNK RAILROAD.

Good shit!!

Hopefully it'll be better than the tripe Turner and Watson did as Mothers Army - if I had to make a list of most disappointing projects (given the personnel) that'd be right up there. An expensive beer coaster that was for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2013, 04:46:41 AM
I think I've heard that one, can't remember much but I know it didn't stick with me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 10, 2013, 07:06:00 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/joe-lynn-turner-joins-forces-with-carmine-appice-tony-franklin-jeff-watson/

Legendary vocalist Joe Lynn Turner (RAINBOW, DEEP PURPLE, YNGWIE MALMSTEEN) revealed to Anderson Guimaraes of The Rainbow Fanclan Legacy that he has launched a brand new band called LEGACY X with drummer Carmine Appice (VANILLA FUDGE, CACTUS), bassist Tony Franklin (THE FIRM, BLUE MURDER) and guitarist Jeff Watson (NIGHT RANGER, MOTHER'S ARMY). Watson joined the group as the replacement for Bruce Kulick (KISS, GRAND FUNK RAILROAD), who was unable to commit to the new project due to his heavy touring schedule with GRAND FUNK RAILROAD.

Good shit!!

Hopefully it'll be better than the tripe Turner and Watson did as Mothers Army - if I had to make a list of most disappointing projects (given the personnel) that'd be right up there. An expensive beer coaster that was for me.

Not heard that (thankfully by the sounds of things) but that is a decent line-up.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 16, 2013, 10:05:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KywpeORasjo

teaser for the new Vandenberg stuff - reminds me of all his other material.  Decent but nothing that hasn't been done much better by others.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 17, 2013, 11:10:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KywpeORasjo

teaser for the new Vandenberg stuff - reminds me of all his other material.  Decent but nothing that hasn't been done much better by others.

Was never a fan. Doesn't look like that will change, though I like the raw sound.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 17, 2013, 04:57:34 PM
Europe - The Final Countdown live at Sweden Rock: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyWajWueH2w)

An old classic but Europe makes it sound fresher than ever. Big props for them still going strong.

Here's a newer song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hvIqZHGDOI
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 18, 2013, 01:37:00 AM
Europe - The Final Countdown live at Sweden Rock: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyWajWueH2w)

An old classic but Europe makes it sound fresher than ever. Big props for them still going strong.

Here's a newer song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hvIqZHGDOI

One of my favourite singers. He's lost some higher range but he's still a pleasure to listen to. I'm not enamoured with the newer direction but TFC to PiP was a great 3 album run.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 18, 2013, 05:37:06 AM
Been listening to this Aussie classic today in the car;

(https://991.com/NewGallery/Jimmy-Barnes-Freight-Train-Hea-465548.jpg)

Jimmy Barnes is an Australian rock hero and simply one of the best rock voices we have ever produced. (Even though he's originally from Wales)

This album features most tracks written by Jonothan Cain, and features both him and Neal Schon.  This album is killer with some great rock tracks as well as some smooth AOR tracks.  It also features Walk On written by Desmond Child and Joe Lynn Turner.  Some of you might know the version Turner redid with the second Sunstorm album.  Recommened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI9dXapGzjk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Ny48UYF2E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9Ll5N6xoLA
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2013, 03:49:38 AM
New Primal Fear album samples;

https://www.amazon.com/Delivering-Black-Primal-Fear/dp/B00H9UGDPU/ref=tmm_other_meta_binding_title_0

Short samples but this actually sounds quite solid and promising.  I can actually hear some classic Primal Fear in here.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 19, 2013, 10:47:12 AM
samples sound awesome!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 19, 2013, 04:32:51 PM
I find Primal Fear rather hit and miss (more miss) with plenty of filler on the few albums I have but I think those samples sound pretty damn good.    Very aggressive, basic , melodic and catchy -  and consistent in an Axel Rudi Pell kinda way  ;D

I'll certainly be checking it out.


Good reco by wolfking re the Barnes album - quality melodic rock and that will likely be a fringe contender for my Top50
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2013, 05:13:23 PM
samples sound awesome!

They really do.

Good reco by wolfking re the Barnes album - quality melodic rock and that will likely be a fringe contender for my Top50

Yeah, it's awesome, definitely his best work IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2013, 05:53:27 AM
More cookie cutter , 2 minute noodle guitar riff melodic rock with obligatory shite video...............and another Bormann project (Redrum).  It's so hard to find new release melodic rock with any inspiration /musical depth.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T-ca7G5DtII

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 22, 2013, 06:05:17 AM
Not bad, but not standout. Par for the course for the genre. :lol. I didn't mind it, and at least it was more rock than the grating metal stuff, but it was fairly soft and generic.

I'm basically just hanging out until Stan Bush's new one comes out in January.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 23, 2013, 10:16:01 AM
Not bad, but not standout. Par for the course for the genre. :lol. I didn't mind it, and at least it was more rock than the grating metal stuff, but it was fairly soft and generic.

I'm basically just hanging out until Stan Bush's new one comes out in January.

Stan is usually quality. Not played any of his stuff for a while. Would put that right but the weather here in the UK isn't exactly AOR weather. Quite liked the song but don't imagine I'll bother with the album. as you both say, its ok, just nothing special.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2013, 02:57:38 PM
I got Bush's Dream the Dream I think it's called.  It was okay but nothing memorable IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 23, 2013, 03:42:16 PM
If anyone wants to check out Stan Bush the "go to" albums for me are

Stan Bush and Barrage (1987):  (House of Lords fans will recognise one there) which has some harder rock on it than you might expect from him

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/S/STANBUSHBARRAGE_SBAB.JPG)

Gates of Paradise  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ1GfjV52Zk




In This life (2007)  (https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/S/STANBUSH_ITL.JPG)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2013, 03:49:28 PM
Never heard of him.

Now John Bush? That's a different matter.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 23, 2013, 03:58:20 PM
Never heard of him.



Be gone you heathen   ;D

He's very smooth AOR and I suppose would be considered a significant third tier artist .  He was on the original Transformers soundtrack though - remember The Touch??  ;D

John Bush.........yes.  Can't say I listen to much Anthrax with him on board but I  :heart  Symbol of Salvation by Armored Saint  :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
Never heard of him.


He was on the original Transformers soundtrack though - remember The Touch??  ;D

Nope don't know it.


John Bush.........yes.  Can't say I listen to much Anthrax with him on board but I  :heart  Symbol of Salvation by Armored Saint  :tup
:metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 23, 2013, 08:21:13 PM
I got Bush's Dream the Dream I think it's called.  It was okay but nothing memorable IMO.

It has some classics on there. Never Hold Back and Love is the Road are still standout favourites of mine, although I find the second half of the album is much stronger than the first half.
And In This Life is great from start to finish.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 24, 2013, 01:40:34 AM
For me it's Stan Bush & Barrage, Dial 8088808080808088808008080808 (or something like that  :)) and Every beat Of My Heart.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 24, 2013, 02:23:00 AM
Nothing before Language of the Heart does anything for me, and even then I don't love his stuff before In This Life (excluding the Transformers stuff, which is obviously awesome). But the stuff between that is just too soft for me. His current line-up has struck on something really good for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2013, 02:59:55 AM
I got Bush's Dream the Dream I think it's called.  It was okay but nothing memorable IMO.

It has some classics on there. Never Hold Back and Love is the Road are still standout favourites of mine, although I find the second half of the album is much stronger than the first half.
And In This Life is great from start to finish.

Might have to pull it out and have another listen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: NotePad on December 24, 2013, 01:02:13 PM
I brought this up in the Helloween thread, but it probably suits this thread better.

Anyone familiar with the music of Place Vendome? I'v only listened to their second album, Streets of Fire. It's really good actually, really melodic and i love the guitar sound. The guitarist on this album is really awesome. I know Dennis Ward wrote most of the music on this album, but different people wrote the music for Streets of Fire. Still really good.

Before this i never knew what AOR is. Now i do. I was surprised when u heard about Unisonic, and Kai Hansen joining, mainly because i assumed they were really just Place Vendome with a new name. But apparently Unisonic is more metal nad hard rock?

But yea who here likes Place Vendome? Streets of Fire is a really cool album surprisingly. Love the guitar, Kiske can sing as usual. I actually believe this type of music suits Kiske a lot better. Helloween is my favorite band, but only Deris stuff. Still, i like kiske. I hope Unisonic is good or better then Vendome and he's finally found a permanent band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 24, 2013, 01:05:16 PM
Place Vendфme is excellent indeed.  I don't listen to it as much as I should... just lost in the shuffle of so much other great music in this genre.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2013, 02:55:58 PM
Streets of Fire is great but the debut is by far the best out of the three.  A melodic rock classic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 24, 2013, 03:16:46 PM
Streets of Fire is great but the debut is by far the best out of the three.  A melodic rock classic.

The wolf is right.

And you need some Pink Cream 69 if you like Denis Ward, though he's not the main songwriter. Thunderdome, Sonic Dynamite and Electrified are the standouts.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2013, 03:37:43 PM
Yeah 69 are a great band.  Their live DVD is amazing too.  Also, if you are a Dennis Ward fan, I recommend these;

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51JoH1pzeZL.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qw1xkAWDzok/TLMPLpsADTI/AAAAAAAABQ4/XoFtEmBxk3s/s1600/Khymera+-+The+Greatest+Wonder+by+Eneas.jpg)

Melodic rock with Ward on lead vocals.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2013, 04:11:45 PM
February 21st - Vanishing Point - Distant is the Sun

https://vanishing-point.com.au/vp/vanishing-point-sign-with-germanys-afm-records/

https://www.metalstorm.net/events/news_comments.php?news_id=21912

 :hefdaddy :metal :hefdaddy :metal

(https://www.cdinzane.com/images/P/VANISHING%20POINT-DISTANT%20IS%20THE%20SUN%20SMALL.jpg)

YES MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!

Not sure if this is the official cover as I just found it on a random website.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 24, 2013, 06:34:34 PM
Coolio!!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shine on December 24, 2013, 08:02:23 PM
I'm not big into melodic rock/AOR, but there's one band that's really piqued my interested. It's really hard to find a legitimate copy of their second album, but there are a few copies of it floating around on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=696UQ_7ueNw

The Quest - Change

I think it's AOR, but to be frank I'm not sure what defines the genre.

Anyways, has anyone else heard of them? I love it, it sounds great and gets stuck in my head all the time.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2013, 09:24:57 PM
Coolio!!!

Hell yeah, can't wait.  Hopefully the release a song soon.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2013, 09:28:33 PM
I'm not big into melodic rock/AOR, but there's one band that's really piqued my interested. It's really hard to find a legitimate copy of their second album, but there are a few copies of it floating around on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=696UQ_7ueNw

The Quest - Change

I think it's AOR, but to be frank I'm not sure what defines the genre.

Anyways, has anyone else heard of them? I love it, it sounds great and gets stuck in my head all the time.

Seems to fit in this thread.  I like the music quite a lot actually.  I'm not a big fan of the vox though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 25, 2013, 01:44:15 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/primal-fear-guitarist-magnus-karlsson-to-sit-out-tour-tom-naumann-to-fill-in/

Karlsson bails on tour yet again.  Okay, I'm pretty much in love with the man, but he needs to be kicked out of the band, this is not on.  And Tom is back in.  I would actually be happy to see Karlsson out and concentrating on his usual projects for Tom to rejoined, he made Primal Fear special, this is pretty big news. 

I remember an interview where Sinner said that Tom would never be associated with the band again.  Interesting change of heart.  Kick Alex out and either get Henny or Stefan back and we have classic Primal Fear again.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 25, 2013, 06:25:33 AM
I'm not big into melodic rock/AOR, but there's one band that's really piqued my interested. It's really hard to find a legitimate copy of their second album, but there are a few copies of it floating around on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=696UQ_7ueNw

The Quest - Change

I think it's AOR, but to be frank I'm not sure what defines the genre.

Anyways, has anyone else heard of them? I love it, it sounds great and gets stuck in my head all the time.

I'd certainly call The Quest proggy AOR in parts , although some of it borders on hard rock/metal at times (Threshold -like) ..................I don't have the album but - stretching my memory here -  I believe they were on the Now & Then label.......which I had a tiny bit to do with back in the day.  Not one of the label's stronger releases IMO but still a quality release if you like that style.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 25, 2013, 12:43:45 PM
I had a track by them on the first Now & Then sampler and really liked it - called Chain Reaction. I think they were a british band and I worked with the keyboard player (or a previous one to the guy on the album- it was 25 years ago!.)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 26, 2013, 04:03:43 AM
Dunno if there are many fans here, but I sure as hell am;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/iron-savior-rise-of-the-hero-cover-artwork-track-listing-revealed/

Germany's IRON SAVIOR will release its new album, "Rise Of The Hero", on February 28, 2014 via AFM Records. The Japanese edition of the CD will arrive on February 19, 2014 through Avalon.

"Rise Of The Hero" track listing:

01. Ascendence (intro)
02. Last Hero
03. Revenge Of The Bride
04. From Far Beyond Time
05. Burning Heart
06. Thunder From The Mountains
07. Iron Warrior
08. Dragon King
09. [Suprise Track]
10. Firestorm
11. The Demon
12. Fistraiser
13. I've Been To Hell 2014 (limited-edition bonus track)

IRON SAVIOR will play a special release show for "Rise Of The Hero" on February 27 at Hard Rock Caf St. Pauli in Hamburg, Germany.

Read more at https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/iron-savior-rise-of-the-hero-cover-artwork-track-listing-revealed/#FDk7UrmT0q3iTuLk.99

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/ironsaviorriseoftheherocd_638.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 26, 2013, 04:09:35 AM
Always liked what I've heard from Iron Savior.  They do a great cover of Desert Plains too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 26, 2013, 04:29:39 AM
All of their covers are really really strong.  I got the Japan version of their last album which had a cover of the old 80's Underworld hit song, Underneath the Radar, really good shit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 26, 2013, 09:00:25 AM
I like the cover. Very Mass Effect inspired. And I just finished playing Mass Effect 3 a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 26, 2013, 03:41:07 PM
I like the cover. Very Mass Effect inspired. And I just finished playing Mass Effect 3 a couple of weeks ago.

You might dig Iron Savior.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 26, 2013, 03:43:36 PM
I like the cover. Very Mass Effect inspired. And I just finished playing Mass Effect 3 a couple of weeks ago.

You might dig Iron Savior.

I've heard a bit on spotify.
liked it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 26, 2013, 03:46:44 PM
Cool man.  Unification and Dark Assault is where its at.  I'm a fan of Megatropolis too.  The rest are great too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: NotePad on December 26, 2013, 11:49:35 PM
AOR seems kinda odd idea to me. I live in Canada, i don't know what bands are AOR and what arn''t. I listen to a little radio. Is AOR meant to create music that will get radioplay? Maybe it's bigger is Europe...idk.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 27, 2013, 03:21:58 AM
AOR seems kinda odd idea to me. I live in Canada, i don't know what bands are AOR and what arn''t. I listen to a little radio. Is AOR meant to create music that will get radioplay? Maybe it's bigger is Europe...idk.

Have you heard Canada's finest? Aldo Nova? That's AOR!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 27, 2013, 04:03:30 AM
AOR seems kinda odd idea to me. I live in Canada, i don't know what bands are AOR and what arn''t. I listen to a little radio. Is AOR meant to create music that will get radioplay? Maybe it's bigger is Europe...idk.

It's a pretty loose term.  here's wiki's take on it;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Album-oriented_rock

I think if you look back through the thread, you get an idea of what us forum members associate with the term.  The term melodic rock is a more heavier, hard rock sound with hints of what makes AOR, well AOR.  The two go well together and prove quite popular.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 27, 2013, 04:28:14 AM
W.E.T. Live DVD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HmquTvaszk

Fuck yeah!  :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 27, 2013, 04:46:16 AM
W.E.T. Live DVD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HmquTvaszk

Fuck yeah!  :metal

Yeah, I'd heard about that.

AOR seems kinda odd idea to me. I live in Canada, i don't know what bands are AOR and what arn''t. I listen to a little radio. Is AOR meant to create music that will get radioplay? Maybe it's bigger is Europe...idk.

I too am a Canuck.  Whereabouts you from?

As for definition, I find it easier to define what it isn't... not excessively long, no crazy prog technicality, no odd time signatures, minimal (if any) time/key changes, no heavy/grungy chords, no excessive double bass kicks.  When I hear a song/album/band that is primarily defined by the guitar, keyboard or vocal melody, that's Melodic/AOR to me.

Canada's finest??  Harem Scarem by far.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Big Hath on December 27, 2013, 12:59:06 PM
AOR seems kinda odd idea to me. I live in Canada, i don't know what bands are AOR and what arn''t. I listen to a little radio. Is AOR meant to create music that will get radioplay? Maybe it's bigger is Europe...idk.

It's a pretty loose term.  here's wiki's take on it;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Album-oriented_rock

I think if you look back through the thread, you get an idea of what us forum members associate with the term.  The term melodic rock is a more heavier, hard rock sound with hints of what makes AOR, well AOR.  The two go well together and prove quite popular.

along these lines, would some of the regulars in this thread mind posting their personal top 5/10 album lists for the genre (excluding obvious stuff, I guess)?  I want to start checking some of this stuff out, but really don't know where to start.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 27, 2013, 02:33:03 PM
Essential from the 90s (imo)

Harem Scarem - Mood Swings
Hardline - Double Eclipse
Extreme - Extreme II: Pornografitti
Winger - Pull
Aldo Nova - Blood on the Bricks
Europe - Prisoners in Paradise

More recent stuff:

Pretty Maids - Motherland
House of Lords - Cartesian Dreams
Eden's Curse - The Second Coming
The Magnificent - The Magnificent
Silent Force - World's Apart

That's 11.  Sorry.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 27, 2013, 03:34:15 PM
Essential from the 90s (imo)

Harem Scarem - Mood Swings
Hardline - Double Eclipse
Extreme - Extreme II: Pornografitti
Winger - Pull
Aldo Nova - Blood on the Bricks
Europe - Prisoners in Paradise

More recent stuff:

Pretty Maids - Motherland
House of Lords - Cartesian Dreams
Eden's Curse - The Second Coming
The Magnificent - The Magnificent
Silent Force - World's Apart

That's 11.  Sorry.

All of these qualify, nice list.  I got more into melodic AOR with newer albums of the genre.  I started checking out older stuff afterwards.  Here's some others;

Newer albums;

Allen/Lande - The Battle (anthing from Magnus Karlsson really)
Toby Hitchcock - Mercury's Down
W.E.T - W.E.T
Work of Art - In Progress
Ten - THe Name of the Rose
Sunstorm - House of Dreams
House of Lords - Come to My Kingdom
Jeff Scott Soto - Damage Control
Khymera - A New Promise
Pride of Lions - Self titled
Vega - Kiss of Life

Some more older albums;

Magnum - On A Storytellers Night
Talisman - Self titled
Europe - The Final Countdown
Journey - Frontiers
Giant - Last of the Runaways
Joe Lynn Turner - Rescue You
FM - Indiscreet
Fifth Angel - Time Will Tell
Dare - Out of the Silence
Jimmy Barnes - Freight Train Heart (Aussie singer features Journey members)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 27, 2013, 04:13:25 PM
Ten - THe Name of the Rose

Not sure I've seen anyone mention Ten around here (and I saw you listening to them in the 'album' thread).  Nice  :tup  Not a lot blows me away from them, but nothing has ever disappointed me either.  Just solid all the way around.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on December 27, 2013, 05:56:12 PM
It's a good thing we just had Christmas, because when you two start posting lists it usually means I have a lot of shit to buy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 28, 2013, 01:38:03 PM
Ten - THe Name of the Rose

Not sure I've seen anyone mention Ten around here (and I saw you listening to them in the 'album' thread).  Nice  :tup  Not a lot blows me away from them, but nothing has ever disappointed me either.  Just solid all the way around.

If you had been around during my top 50 (just! - 49) you would have seen Spellbound made the list. Just don't go checking it out now, listening to stuff you don't know whilst your roulette is on  :biggrin:

And to answer BigHath, those lists by Chad (all win there) and Kade (mostly great) are pretty much spot on as far as I'm concerned.

I'll add

Treat- Coup de Gras
Gotthard- Domino Effect or Lipservice
HEAT- Address The Nation
Kane Roberts- Saints & Sinners
Survivor- Vital Signs
Paul Stanley- ST
House Of Shakira- Lint
Red Dawn- Never Say Surrender
Bon Jovi - New Jersey
Def Leppard- Pyromania
Pink Cream 69- Thunderdome

something like that


Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 28, 2013, 02:34:21 PM
If you had been around during my top 50 (just! - 49) you would have seen Spellbound made the list. Just don't go checking it out now, listening to stuff you don't know whilst your roulette is on  :biggrin:


I think I remember that.  No need to check it out, I have Ten's discog.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 28, 2013, 02:55:13 PM
If you had been around during my top 50 (just! - 49) you would have seen Spellbound made the list. Just don't go checking it out now, listening to stuff you don't know whilst your roulette is on  :biggrin:


I think I remember that.  No need to check it out, I have Ten's discog.

Yeah, it was more for other stuff in there.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 28, 2013, 04:38:40 PM
If you had been around during my top 50 (just! - 49) you would have seen Spellbound made the list. Just don't go checking it out now, listening to stuff you don't know whilst your roulette is on  :biggrin:


I think I remember that.  No need to check it out, I have Ten's discog.

Yeah, it was more for other stuff in there.

:lolpalm:... of course.  Actually, I did check out 11 from your Top 50 already (and purchased Phantom's Opera).  There are still a few on my list from your Top 50.  Not gonna tell you who though.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2014, 04:16:29 AM
I just got Fergie Frederiksen's last album Happiness is the Road from 2011 in the mail.  This is really awesome and much better than Any Given Moment.

Blob, I know you liked the last one, so I recommend you check this one if you haven't already.  More consistent with less filler and overall more melodic rock and slightly heavier.  2 amazing songs from Robert Sall too which scratches me right where I itch.  Dennis Ward on guitars, bass and keys too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 07, 2014, 04:22:59 AM
I just got Fergie Frederiksen's last album Happiness is the Road from 2011 in the mail.  This is really awesome and much better than Any Given Moment.

Blob, I know you liked the last one, so I recommend you check this one if you haven't already.  More consistent with less filler and overall more melodic rock and slightly heavier.  2 amazing songs from Robert Sall too which scratches me right where I itch.  Dennis Ward on guitars, bass and keys too.

I actually found it much more shaky overall. Weaker production, weaker vocals, weaker songwriting.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2014, 04:38:34 AM
Well there you go, there's opinions for you.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 07, 2014, 04:43:51 AM
I know, right? :lol
It's amazing how within any one genre, people can be drawn to completely different elements of songwriting.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on January 08, 2014, 03:06:49 AM
February 21st - Vanishing Point - Distant is the Sun

https://vanishing-point.com.au/vp/vanishing-point-sign-with-germanys-afm-records/

https://www.metalstorm.net/events/news_comments.php?news_id=21912

 :hefdaddy :metal :hefdaddy :metal

(https://www.cdinzane.com/images/P/VANISHING%20POINT-DISTANT%20IS%20THE%20SUN%20SMALL.jpg)

YES MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!

Not sure if this is the official cover as I just found it on a random website.

Yup it is they just put it up on their facebook page.
Can't wait for this one, been a long 7 years waiting.
Hope they do some gigs too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2014, 03:08:37 AM
going to give this a spin tonight - can't even remember if it's any good.

A bit topical though - anyone recognise a face? ..........from mid 80's

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/B/BLINDVENGEANCE_ST.JPG)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2014, 03:15:36 AM
Sort of looks like Harry Hess in there.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2014, 03:16:13 AM
Sort of looks like Harry Hess in there.

Yup - got it.   pre Harem Scarem and around 16 or 17yo
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2014, 03:20:59 AM
February 21st - Vanishing Point - Distant is the Sun

https://vanishing-point.com.au/vp/vanishing-point-sign-with-germanys-afm-records/

https://www.metalstorm.net/events/news_comments.php?news_id=21912

 :hefdaddy :metal :hefdaddy :metal

(https://www.cdinzane.com/images/P/VANISHING%20POINT-DISTANT%20IS%20THE%20SUN%20SMALL.jpg)

YES MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!

Not sure if this is the official cover as I just found it on a random website.

Yup it is they just put it up on their facebook page.
Can't wait for this one, been a long 7 years waiting.
Hope they do some gigs too.

Man, I didn't realise it's been 7 years, that's unreal.

I saw them supporting Helloween back in........must have been 2008.  They were pretty damn good.  They were a little shaky in some spots but were really enjoyable.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on January 08, 2014, 03:35:17 AM
Yeah time flies by.
I saw them supporting Edguy back in 2001, trying to find the audio that I recorded of the show.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2014, 03:40:07 AM
I saw Edguy when they came in 2004 I think, they were incredible and the place had 100 people max, amazing up close and personal show.  Dungeon were supporting and they were of course amazing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2014, 07:29:11 PM
Winger have just announced 100 days til new album release - look forward to that.  Karma was very strong.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2014, 07:34:17 PM
Winger have just announced 100 days til new album release - look forward to that.  Karma was very strong.

HELL YES!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 08, 2014, 07:37:48 PM
I loved the first two tracks on Karma, but the rest was bland metal, so hopefully they can pull out a few more songs like those. I'm interested to hear this. :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2014, 07:39:56 PM
I thought the first two were cool, but were weaker tracks on the album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
I loved the first two tracks on Karma, but the rest was bland metal, so hopefully they can pull out a few more songs like those. I'm interested to hear this. :tup

Wow...............I love Pull Me Under, Supernova , Witness , Always Within Me etc...  better than the first two actually .  I like them all tbh, aside from maybe Feeding frenzy (like the lyrical idea but not the song so much).  Was just listening to it yesterday so it's all fresh in my mind.

Karma and Pull are really top notch albums IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 08, 2014, 07:44:20 PM
I thought the first two were cool, but were weaker tracks on the album.

I'm not sure how I'd rank them.  I'd say they were fun, but certainly not "the best".

Anyway... AWESOME news.  More to add to my 2014 Release calendar.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 08, 2014, 07:45:43 PM
I loved the first two tracks on Karma, but the rest was bland metal, so hopefully they can pull out a few more songs like those. I'm interested to hear this. :tup

Wow...............I love Pull Me Under, Supernova , Witness , Always Within Me etc...  better than the first two actually .  I like them all tbh, aside from maybe Feeding frenzy (like the lyrical idea but not the song so much).  Was just listening to it yesterday so it's all fresh in my mind.

I tried listening to it only recently, and nothing at all sticks out aside from the first two tracks. The first track is the clear standout of the album imo. A perfect blend of modern heaviness and great '80s songwriting. If they wrote a whole album like that, they could have themselves one of the better recent hard rock albums.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2014, 07:48:49 PM
I loved the first two tracks on Karma, but the rest was bland metal, so hopefully they can pull out a few more songs like those. I'm interested to hear this. :tup

Wow...............I love Pull Me Under, Supernova , Witness , Always Within Me etc...  better than the first two actually .  I like them all tbh, aside from maybe Feeding frenzy (like the lyrical idea but not the song so much).  Was just listening to it yesterday so it's all fresh in my mind.

I tried listening to it only recently, and nothing at all sticks out aside from the first two tracks. The first track is the clear standout of the album imo. A perfect blend of modern heaviness and great '80s songwriting. If they wrote a whole album like that, they could have themselves one of the better recent hard rock albums.

Fair enough - opinions................. ;D   For mine the first two tracks , while good, are the sort of stuff Kip and Reb could write in 5 minutes flat and it's from track 5 on where the songwriting depth really picks up.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2014, 07:53:37 PM
The first two sound too much the same for me also.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 08, 2014, 08:01:36 PM
I loved the first two tracks on Karma, but the rest was bland metal, so hopefully they can pull out a few more songs like those. I'm interested to hear this. :tup

Wow...............I love Pull Me Under, Supernova , Witness , Always Within Me etc...  better than the first two actually .  I like them all tbh, aside from maybe Feeding frenzy (like the lyrical idea but not the song so much).  Was just listening to it yesterday so it's all fresh in my mind.

I tried listening to it only recently, and nothing at all sticks out aside from the first two tracks. The first track is the clear standout of the album imo. A perfect blend of modern heaviness and great '80s songwriting. If they wrote a whole album like that, they could have themselves one of the better recent hard rock albums.

Fair enough - opinions................. ;D   For mine the first two tracks , while good, are the sort of stuff Kip and Reb could write in 5 minutes flat and it's from track 5 on where the songwriting depth really picks up.

The first two tracks to me are the memorable ones (hence they decided to start the album strong with them), and they're the most distinctive tracks on the album. After that is a blur of generic metal riffing and dull vocal melodies.
If those tracks are something they could write in 5 minutes, they should do that instead of whatever the hell they decided to do for the rest of the album, and for IV, which is perhaps even worse.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2014, 08:12:06 PM
Alrighty then  ;D   I thought we had very similar tastes to this point ;)

I agree with you about track numbers ..............it's a bit like Cherry Pie opening that album (most memorable) and Uncle Tom's Cabin, I Saw Red and Mr Rainmaker being saved for later .

and if I was to pick generic riffing and the weaker melodies  the first couple would be at the top of the list.  All IMHO of course  ;)



 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 08, 2014, 08:20:15 PM
But the first track has the most distinctive riffing of all of them! :lol That doesn't even make sense to me. The rest is just dull power chords, and like every other metal band, whereas the first song actually has a cool and classic rock riff, and a lot of good touches to the song.
I honestly don't know what anyone can see in the rest of those tracks. They have no unique style to them at all. Completely run of the mill modern metal. :dunno:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2014, 08:33:54 PM
But the first track has the most distinctive riffing of all of them! :lol That doesn't even make sense to me. The rest is just dull power chords, and like every other metal band, whereas the first song actually has a cool and classic rock riff, and a lot of good touches to the song.
I honestly don't know what anyone can see in the rest of those tracks. They have no unique style to them at all. Completely run of the mill modern metal. :dunno:

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on the lot - what constitutes power chords, distinctive/generic riffs and even  metal.  Almost half of the back end of the album I was referring to is ballads with barely a riff in site !  In terms of my quip about writing the first 2 tracks in five minutes I was being facetious but quite seriously - the riffs/song structures there are production line stuff for those guys - or any decent writer.

It's always interesting how some of us with such similar tastes elsewhere see/hear two totally different things at other times.  All good - otherwise forums would be bloody boring places to spend time.

We're both looking forward to the next album though  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 08, 2014, 08:38:06 PM
But I'm only looking forward to the new album in the faint hope they can write more good songs like the first two tracks, and nothing at all like the rest of IV and Karma. :lol If they churn out another album like the last two overall, forget 'em!
Those albums to me are good examples of what is wrong with modern rock albums. They try to be modern and write metal songs to what they think fits with current music, without that distinctive sound that defines older rock music that I love. Deal With The Devil is one of my favourite rock songs of the 2000s, and is what more rock bands should be doing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2014, 08:42:54 PM
I agree with you on that in a general sense -  the rock landscape was littered with the wreckage of bands who tried to go modern/grunge post-Nirvana..if they survived at all.    Only a couple of bands pulled it off while retaining the best of what they had before - one that comes to mind is Lillian Axe's Psychoschizophrenia.

Where we differ is that I think Winger have done that well on both Pull and Karma.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 08, 2014, 08:53:49 PM
Pull does nothing for me either. I'm only a fan of the first album, and Battle Stations from the Bill and Ted soundtrack. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 08, 2014, 08:56:05 PM
Pull does nothing for me either. I'm only a fan of the first album, and Battle Stations from the Bill and Ted soundtrack. :biggrin:

Cripes - you're 10 years my junior and I get told I'm stuck in the 80's  ;D   :hefdaddy for your 80's-ness
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 08, 2014, 08:59:30 PM
Pull does nothing for me either. I'm only a fan of the first album, and Battle Stations from the Bill and Ted soundtrack. :biggrin:

Cripes - you're 10 years my junior and I get told I'm stuck in the 80's  ;D   :hefdaddy for your 80's-ness

You have no idea.

Also, Blob's a simple man.  Don't put complexity in front of him.  Unless it's around 3D art.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 08, 2014, 09:00:16 PM
Pull does nothing for me either. I'm only a fan of the first album, and Battle Stations from the Bill and Ted soundtrack. :biggrin:

Cripes - you're 10 years my junior and I get told I'm stuck in the 80's  ;D   :hefdaddy for your 80's-ness

Thank you, thank you. I was born in the '80s, and decided it was so nice that I'd just stay there. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on January 08, 2014, 09:43:23 PM
I've been sorting out all my CD's today, stumbled across Magnum 'Wings Of Heaven Live'.
Damn they still sound great, Bob Catley as good as ever.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2014, 05:14:16 AM
I've been sorting out all my CD's today, stumbled across Magnum 'Wings Of Heaven Live'.
Damn they still sound great, Bob Catley as good as ever.

Yeah, this is an amazing live album.  I also love Live from Birmingham from 92, great setlist.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2014, 05:19:13 AM
New Primal Fear is actually getting really good reviews.

https://www.metal-temple.com/site/catalogues/entry/reviews/cd_3/p_2/primal-fear_2.htm?keep_session=1801843008

https://www.metalstorm.net/pub/review.php?review_id=12201

https://www.examiner.com/article/cd-review-primal-fear-shine-on-crushing-new-album-delivering-the-black
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Big Hath on January 09, 2014, 11:11:52 AM
jingle, wolfking, Lowdz - update on some of the stuff I've checked out (or already knew) from your lists:

already had these:
Extreme - Extreme II: Pornografitti - so yeah, this is one of my favorite albums of all time.  #37 on my top 50 list.
Work of Art - In Progress - bought this about a year and a half ago based on the the OP.  Love the Toto vibe.
Journey - Frontiers - a classic.
Bon Jovi - New Jersey - some great stuff on here.  Love the hits, but some of the other is just ok.
Def Leppard- Pyromania - this album is probably in my top 100.

albums I've either listened to or purchased from your lists
Hardline - Double Eclipse - this is awesome.
Winger - Pull - had heard a little of this already and went ahead and bought it.  I really liked their earlier stuff, so I thought I would take a chance.
Harem Scarem - Mood Swings - haven't spent a lot of time with the next 5, but what I've heard is pretty good.
Pretty Maids - Motherland
House of Lords - Cartesian Dreams
House of Lords - Come to My Kingdom
Magnum - On A Storytellers Night
Giant - Last of the Runaways - holy crap!  This was an immediate purchase (also bought Time to Burn).


so Hardline and Giant were huge wins for me so far.  What else is out there like these?  I really like those aggressive guitar riffs, slides, flourishes, etc.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 09, 2014, 11:44:50 AM
Ok, well let's have a looksie then. 

White Lion - Lady of the Valley (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBKIgC82eDc)
Neonfly - only one album.  Try this song.  The Messenger (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOPbOHdFO1E)
Rockhead - Bed of Roses (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KtyxmG_uqFg)*.  This is the one and only release from the band of legendary producer Bob Rock (Dr. Feelgood, Metallica, A 'Lil Ain't Enough)
Big House - Dollar in my Pocket (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sLvsQbvHog)*
Sven Gali - Under the Influence (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeS90enTx_o)*

And now, the chick's
Nemesea - Afterlife (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icdJDFFCc1Q)
Sass Jordan - High Road Easy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myXZSAQ_unY)*  This is a little on the bluesy side.
Chrissy Steele - Love You 'til it Hurts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc2s-5OdXqY)*
Lee Aaron - Hands On (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsattyYh8Ig)*

* - feeling rather patriotic, as these are Canadian
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 09, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Oh, and one last one.

Winter Rose - I'll Never Fall in Love Again (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OobUs2zvN7o)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 09, 2014, 12:14:14 PM
Oh, and one last one.

Winter Rose - I'll Never Fall in Love Again
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OobUs2zvN7o)

I'm pretty sure its not Canada Day again... lol
Solid choices though.
Hard to recommend something like Giant because there isn't much like Giant. Dan Huff rules.
And I think there's only me n Chad who ever heard of Big House... :biggrin: (though I'm sure Brent wll prove me wrong lol)
I'll throw Leverage- Tides into the mix and Brother Firetribe's False Metal albums.
W.E.T.s first album. Eclipse's Are You Ready To Rock
And there's Coney Hatch Best of called Best Of Three that's worth getting.
The true AOR stuff like Giant isn't really my forte tbh. Brent might be your man

edit Hmm made that spound like i dont like Giant which is far from the truth. I meant its not my usual type of stuff. Giant are awesome.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on January 09, 2014, 12:45:05 PM
Coney Hatch is a fantastic band; that best of 3 is a great release.  I know they recently released a new album, but haven't checked it out yet.

And Wolf, it's looking good for that new Primal Fear album.  Looking forward to picking that up along with the new Silent Force.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 09, 2014, 06:59:08 PM
Oh, and one last one.

Winter Rose - I'll Never Fall in Love Again
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OobUs2zvN7o)

I'm pretty sure its not Canada Day again... lol
Solid choices though.
Hard to recommend something like Giant because there isn't much like Giant. Dan Huff rules.
And I think there's only me n Chad who ever heard of Big House... :biggrin: (though I'm sure Brent wll prove me wrong lol)
I'll throw Leverage- Tides into the mix and Brother Firetribe's False Metal albums.
W.E.T.s first album. Eclipse's Are You Ready To Rock
And there's Coney Hatch Best of called Best Of Three that's worth getting.
The true AOR stuff like Giant isn't really my forte tbh. Brent might be your man

edit Hmm made that spound like i dont like Giant which is far from the truth. I meant its not my usual type of stuff. Giant are awesome.


Big House...............let's check my iTunes.

(https://i39.tinypic.com/29cktn6.jpg)


It's actually a shame I have it because if I move that out of the way the albums either side of it make a good pair  :omg:  ;D

I agree with the love for Giant - I can't see LOTR being outside my top 20 when it comes time to do a proper list.  There really isn't too much that's as high quality as Giant in that sphere , as lowdz said.   I did reference an album by Beckett earlier in this thread with some links  - one of the few albums outside of Giant where Dann is prominent on guitar.   Too soft for some here which is understandable but I like it and Dann plays some great tasteful solos as usual.

I don't find it easy giving recommendations as I almost always get it wrong - I always have the stuff that people will like but I invariably choose the wrong ones when asked to.     Aside from Chad (where I can reference last.fm and give the odd reco) and lowdz  I haven't been around here long enough to really have a good feel for what everyone likes , already knows etc........ so forgive me if I mention some obvious stuff.

Without getting too obscure - sticking to stuff that many of us diehards would  know but the general public would not .....................let's assume Big Hath likes accessible rock with some reasonably prominent guitars ,  the next logical step from Hardline would perhaps be to bands like.

Tyketto:  Don't Come Easy and the more stripped back  Strength In Numbers

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/T/TYKETTO1.JPG)

Forever Young  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOb7133OHyk

Wings  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eaunxJzJnw

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/T/TYKETTO2.JPG)

Strength In Numbers  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC9QBixzphk

Rescue Me  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IilqLlinMI

Gotthard: Lipservice

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/G/GOTTHARD_LS.JPG)

Dream On  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F97aPHdMf4

Anytime Anywhere  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yujqC4B8b1g

Unruly Child: s/t: 

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/U/UNRULYCHILD1.JPG)

Who Cries Now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-o-6tHwM8I     Love Mark Free...Who cries nooooooooooooooow  :tup

When love Is Gone  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w-V5CT5VSo



and perhaps even something like Shadow King.   It tends to be a love/hate one (I love it) for those that are aware of it ..........Lou Gramm belting it out harder than he did in Foreigner with Vivian Campbell on guitar.

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/S/SHADOWKING_SK.JPG)


Once Upon A Time  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIjhOI1ZC90
What Would It Take  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIYIJS-x8TQ  ..................and the awesome balllad......
Russia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YagVqNuQkJQ


Umm.........a couple more softer ones.  If you like Hardline I reckon Riverdogs is a gimme -  Vivian Campbell again with Rob Lamothe on vox (very similar to Gioeli).   Nice to hear Viv playing a  bit more restrained than in Dio but much more room to shine than in Def Leppard.  An AOR classic.

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/R/RIVERDOGS_ST.JPG)

Whisper  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZfZN5FnoDs
Water From The Moon  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SirBGd7uhGU


I was just listening to this the other day too.........one of many,many lighter rock albums I like......and also Canadian  ;)

Stranded: Long Way From Heaven.

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/S/STRANDED_LWTH.JPG)

Fight On  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSCwra0MF0
Tonight Can Last Forever  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_myGHgwXs7g






Hopefully there's something there you like Big Hath.   Check out the album listening thread too - I try to post at least a couple of lost classics there each day .

By the way if you want an mp3 for the Jap bonus track from the debut Hardline (Love Leads The Way) send me a PM and I'll email you.  It's probably my equal favourite song on the album.


For Chad.................if you like stuff like Sass Jordan and interested to try something else with ballsy female vox and a groove try some Maragold - Greg Howe on guitar too doesn't hurt.

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61HevPfxb5L._SL500_AA280_.jpg)

Evergreen Is Golder  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2HmV2lR9KM



And a further contribution to the theme of Canadian excellence - I posted Killer Dwarfs: Dirty Weapons just yesterday and really love that album. 


Dirty Weappns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY-HGhnyfXw
All That We Dream:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW-deR7TPsA
Nothin Gets Nothin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEgsjhHlaZA


Seeing as we're all patriotic how about some Aussie cock rock  ;D

Roxus: Rock'n'Roll Nights   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdT21MusGhU



It's amazing how many great albums were released early 90's just as everything imploded.


Phew..........
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 09, 2014, 07:26:02 PM
Looks like you guys got everything covered.

Big Hath, that list you just acquired is an amazing selection of music.  Let us know what you think.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 09, 2014, 07:32:23 PM
I remember the Killer Dwarfs... didn't leave much of an impression on me back in the day.  Might have to revist them.  Gotta bookmark that post there Brent (plus I still have to listen in on all the tunes you PM'd me).

It's my goal in life to find something in my Melodic/Glam library that you don't have!  Doubt it though.  If you have Big House, then you likely have Sven Gali and Slik Toxik.  Actually, I could go DEEP into the archives and pull out a band that I got a demo cassette from at a bar in the late 80s that I kept, and digitized the songs.  I'd shart myself if you've heard of them.

But, other than that, I'm bound and determined to know something that you don't already.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 09, 2014, 07:51:12 PM
 ;D  ....................I doubt I have your demo cassette mate.    I do have Sven Gali and Slik Toxik (the 1st one anyway) -   I'd rate both albums as good but not much more.   I remember the fuss over Sven Gali being the next Skid Row at the time but they're not in that ballpark IMO.......although with Skid Row these days  :yeahright


I'm going to shut up for a while after this post but one more that I posted the other day in the album listening thread is probably also up the right alley

Snakes In Paradise: Garden of Eden




(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFHOS09IIIACS2tOPqQdyPhIJyoDxP7d8AE5j6p2-phuj8oOy6)




Hard Day Long  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhBPkjEtN4

Don't let Love Turn to Hate  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acm845JAGP4  (not the best Youtube sound there)


Love that guy's voice and he's just done an album with Kerslake which I need to check out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 09, 2014, 07:58:48 PM
;D  ....................I doubt I have your demo cassette mate.   

Well, after doing a quick google, I found a couple things on them, and they did actually record and release an album... that was engineered by none other than Harry Hess.

Anyway, I'm sure we've given Mr. Hath more than enough to listen to for the next couple of days at least!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: NotePad on January 09, 2014, 10:58:59 PM
Being an AOR record or band (Place Vendome) doesn't really sound like a positive. Maybe the music is good, but hearing something labeled as AOR makes it sound like something a Simon Cowell-type guy would produce, where none of the musicians playing the material had any creative input. Although the first Place Vendom record was written by Dennis Ward and the guy from Stratovarius, so that seems a little out of the ordinary and something a bit worthwhile to pay attention to. Like i said, i like Streets of Blood.

But yea, being labeled AoR doesn't sound like a positive. And out of curiosity, does Place Vendome even get any airplay? Here is Canada/USA they obviously don't. But somewhere else, like Europe? Because isn't the whole point of AoR to be very commercially accessible?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 09, 2014, 11:00:21 PM
If the music is good, does it really matter who writes it?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 09, 2014, 11:07:25 PM
If the music is good, does it really matter who writes it?

This.


I can understand some of the indifference to some of the Frontiers project bands as they do tend to sound a bit same-ish but Place Vendome isn't one of them.

As far as PV go nobody from Stratovarius had anything to do with the first album ............and it's Streets of Fire dude, Streets of Fire  ;D

Not much gets called AOR by anybody these days except by diehards to whom it makes no difference.   And like many of these labels it means different things to different people.   Personally I tend to associate AOR more with softer , more mature bands (less of the rock and roll attitude) like Toto, Journey , Giant etc....... rather than bands I saw called AOR earlier in the thread (Treat, Gotthard).  In the end it's just semantics but that's the way it is in my skull.

I'd be surprised if Place vendome had airplay on anything but a dedicated melodic rock station on internet or community radio.  Wish I could run a little radio show - got close to it once but never got there.   The audience could probably fit in a phone box - maybe that's why .  I get my DJ demons out of my system by posting in the album thread :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 09, 2014, 11:22:30 PM
Yeah, the term "AOR" originally meant "album-oriented rock", essentially meaning they were focused on making albums, not just hit singles. Nowadays the term seems to denote a specific sound, as well. That's not necessarily a problem, but it does make explaining this kind of thing difficult. :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Big Hath on January 09, 2014, 11:24:10 PM
whew, that is a heckuva list I have now.  Some quick notes:

Tyketto - yeah, this is good stuff!  Every song was killer.
Gotthard - sounds good, but I found my mind wandering off a bit.  Didn't quite hold my attention as well.
Unruly Child - another awesome entry.  Great voice.
Shadow King - this was great as well.
On the "softer" stuff, I really liked Riverdogs, more so than Stranded, which was a little too soft I guess.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 09, 2014, 11:34:59 PM
Which Gotthard album did you get?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Big Hath on January 09, 2014, 11:51:08 PM
I was just commenting on the YT links from above, so two songs from Lipservice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 10, 2014, 02:38:55 AM
I was just commenting on the YT links from above, so two songs from Lipservice.

I prefer the one after, Domino Effect. Chad Belcher stay away!!!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2014, 04:18:14 AM
Roxus: Rock'n'Roll Nights   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdT21MusGhU

Missed this.  This album is amazing, and this is probably the best song on it along with First Break of the Heart.  Shame these guys only made one album.  Molly Meldrum I remember really liked them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 11, 2014, 08:03:53 AM
Roxus: Rock'n'Roll Nights   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdT21MusGhU

Missed this.  This album is amazing, and this is probably the best song on it along with First Break of the Heart.  Shame these guys only made one album.  Molly Meldrum I remember really liked them.

He liked them enough to sign them to his own label  - the short lived Melodian label he set up with Gudinski from Mushroom.  So Roxus had the honour of being label mates with Peter Andre  :\  ;D

You're right about it being a shame they only did one album.   Having said that I do have a whole CD of rare and unreleased material somewhere here that I scored from someone associated with the band.  Two or three album quality songs (pre-album singles from the 80's), a B-side or two , another 7 or 8 demos recorded in the USA after the album (I recognised a number of the songs so he didn't write them)  etc..... they're more Juno demos than the band Roxus.      It's good stuff for a fan without being great - certainly better than the steaming turd of a solo album Juno put out later - I got it for $3 in a bargain bin and still got shafted.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 11, 2014, 08:23:57 AM
One to keep an eye on.............release date isn't far away for KXM project (George Lynch, Doug Pinnick and Ray Luzier)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 11, 2014, 10:25:56 AM
I'm going to shut up for a while after this post but one more that I posted the other day in the album listening thread is probably also up the right alley

Snakes In Paradise: Garden of Eden




(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFHOS09IIIACS2tOPqQdyPhIJyoDxP7d8AE5j6p2-phuj8oOy6)




Hard Day Long  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhBPkjEtN4

Don't let Love Turn to Hate  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acm845JAGP4  (not the best Youtube sound there)


Love that guy's voice and he's just done an album with Kerslake which I need to check out.

Ooh, I liked those. Gonna have to grab this one.

Glad we can go back to agreeing on music for a moment. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 11, 2014, 04:34:47 PM
I was just commenting on the YT links from above, so two songs from Lipservice.

I prefer the one after, Domino Effect. Chad Belcher stay away!!!!

After having Domino Effect for comparison, it seemed to me like the production on Lipservice didn't do it justice.    I would listen to Domino Effect the most of the two , partly for that reason.   I'm not a big one for live DVDs but the Lipservice songs sound HEAPS better on the Live In Switzerland DVD which is pretty much perfect....sounds awesome through a good stereo.

Here's an example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O1RWdYLkHU


I chose Lipservice for my example as that seems to be the most popular in my experience.   Gotthard went through a bit of a cycle in heaviness -  started heavy , went more AOR and then came back harder around Lipservice/Domino Effect.

Personally I play the most from their heavier albums and dislike a lot of their output around Homerun/Open etc...........so if I had to choose a fave album it would likely be one of the debut ,Domino Effect or "G" (which has an amazing production).

I wouldn't write off Gotthard without listening to that stuff.

Another track of theirs (from "G") that sounds amazing through a big set of speakers is In The Name

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm-GVOTcdtE

One from the debut..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC-hvlZPQso
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2014, 03:25:20 AM
Roxus: Rock'n'Roll Nights   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdT21MusGhU

Missed this.  This album is amazing, and this is probably the best song on it along with First Break of the Heart.  Shame these guys only made one album.  Molly Meldrum I remember really liked them.

He liked them enough to sign them to his own label  - the short lived Melodian label he set up with Gudinski from Mushroom.  So Roxus had the honour of being label mates with Peter Andre  :\  ;D

You're right about it being a shame they only did one album.   Having said that I do have a whole CD of rare and unreleased material somewhere here that I scored from someone associated with the band.  Two or three album quality songs (pre-album singles from the 80's), a B-side or two , another 7 or 8 demos recorded in the USA after the album (I recognised a number of the songs so he didn't write them)  etc..... they're more Juno demos than the band Roxus.      It's good stuff for a fan without being great - certainly better than the steaming turd of a solo album Juno put out later - I got it for $3 in a bargain bin and still got shafted.

Your music knowledge good sir is incredible.  I knew Molly liked them but didn't know that was the reason.  :lol  Still, I guess being born in 1984 and remembering Molly pimping them on Hey Hey it's Saturday is still a good effort from me.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 12, 2014, 03:41:55 AM
Thank you sir - I don't want to make this  the Mutual Admiration Society but I think you do a pretty amazing job with the 80's/90's stuff given I have ten years on you and still learning.     To be honest I have been seriously impressed at your knowledge and that of Chad, lowdz and others.

I  think it's very cool that we have so many here (in this thread particularly) with such a huge breadth of taste and knowledge -  everything from AOR to seriously heavy metal is well and truly covered.  :tup   Funnily enough I often get told that I have such narrow taste in music  :\  - apparently everything from Toto to Symphony X isn't broad enough . I really don't go for the lighter prog rock or heavy, heavy death stuff but apart from that if it has guitars and a hook I'm interested.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2014, 03:46:41 AM
I never would have imagined that when I started this thread it would still be going like this, amazing stuff everyone.

Brent, I understand what you are saying with people saying to broaden your music tastes.  I've had that too.  What would they know anyway.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2014, 03:51:35 AM
Vanishing Point new album making of video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFQDm50kp_Q

This is sounding seriously amazing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 12, 2014, 04:50:42 PM
This one's for you Chad  ;)

I was playing a bit of Dokken yesterday and nearby in the alphabetical listing was this.......

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/D/DOCTORROCK1.JPG)


If I was a roulette player this would've been one I'd keep up my sleeve.

Canadian  :tup
Obscure  band name to confuse everyone  :tup
Some of your favourite artists playing/singing on it  :tup
Chances are you've never heard it  :tup


So....................Doctor Rock (vox) ain't much of a singer unfortunately - although much better on some tracks than others - and "The Wild Bunch" mostly make up for it on the best tracks.  I'll give you five seconds after the guitars kick in to guess who "The Wild Bunch" are ...................if not that then the backing vocals are a dead giveaway.

And if you've heard it then I've just wasted a big build up  ;D  Unfortunately I can't find the best couple of tracks online - the second below is IMO better than the first which is one of the weaker tracks.....really shite Youtube sound too..sorry.

Live By The Sword https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdr-lAx12o0
Doomsday Love Song  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEhttgFbx30

It's not an all time fave album of mine and I only play 2 or 3 tracks (one of which is Doomsday Love Song) with any regularity but , given who's involved, I reckon you might want it. Although the quality of the tracks and vocals varies quite a bit it's better than " The Wild Bunch" did on their weakest albums.......and unfortunately the best track - where the cover for the singer is best and Mr Wild Guitar does a nice heavy riff -  (Eye Of The Hurricane) ain't  on Youtube.   If you want the best few  tracks and can't be stuffed forking out for the CD 2nd hand then let me know and I'll try and get some mp3s to you.  It doesn't appear to be on last.fm either.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2014, 03:43:46 AM
How many albums do you own?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 13, 2014, 03:46:33 AM
How many albums do you own?

Not that many compared to others I've come across - if I include rarities/demos and bits and pieces we'd be around 3000.  The difference with me maybe is they're almost all melodic rock/metal.

I still need to go through my cassettes to see if there's any I haven't got on CD yet...haven't counted those.  Unfortunately I grew up in the era of cassettes and almost all the music I bought in my teens was in that form and I've had to go out a re-buy a whole stack of stuff on CD or digital.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2014, 03:51:20 AM
That's impressive.  I'm at around 2,250, but most of that is actually more into the metal side of things. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 13, 2014, 05:36:30 AM
3000 is a shit load man.  My iTunes library states 1231, but that includes every album that I only have a track or two from (which probably has to be a couple hundred tunes).  I doubt I even have 1000 full albums.  Now, in this age of Spotify, rdio, Grooveshark etc... I've certainly listened to a few hundred more.  But still.... 3000 is a ton.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 13, 2014, 05:59:00 AM
Looks like I have just shy of 1000 albums, which is more than I expected, given that I don't often actively explore new music like you guys do. I haven't even found a lot of new stuff on Spotify yet, although I've got several albums added I've been meaning to check out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 13, 2014, 07:09:30 AM
That's impressive.  I'm at around 2,250, but most of that is actually more into the metal side of things.

I was 1500 about a decade ago (some will be duplicates on vinyl/cassette/cd) but my buying habits changed even before the kids came along so I guess I may be somewhere near 2000? Most of my new listening is done on Spotify and YOutube, but if I really like something and play it alot I will still buy it, just don't tell the other half  :biggrin:

Most of my listening these days is done in the car though, so its generally older stuff, and newer stuff has less chance to grab me as I only listen to that on the laptop or when washing up.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 13, 2014, 08:23:48 AM
My "newer stuff" is usually older stuff anyway , if you know what I mean?  With the odd exception nothing coming out these days comes close to what I was discovering in the 80's and early 90's as melodic rock/metal and prog metal were coming along in leaps and bounds.  As an example Place Vendome is the "odd exception" but the vast majority of the Frontiers stuff , while decent enough , is just cookie cutter stuff really.  Even with my favourite artists ................I worship JSS but when I heard the first track off the latest W.E.T. disc I thought immediately......"sheesh  - if he sings one more song about "don't walk away tonight baybee blah blah"  :facepalm:  Combine that with the ubiquitous Martensson sound and , aside from a couple of tracks I found it a big yawn.  To say that about Soto is like blasphemy for me but that's the way it is.

I feel fortunate to have been around buying CDs like Images and Words, Mindcrime, Gutter Ballet, .. as they came out - I don't feel a fraction of that excitement about stuff coming out now.  Dream Theater is about the only one that keeps me really anticipating a new release and is , in fact, one of only 2 or 3 new releases I went to the trouble of buying on CD last year.  All the rest (new releases) have been purchased as mp3...............I like the music but not enough to worry about that extra bit of sound quality, booklets etc.. like I used to.

I've recently updated with a lot of more recent prog metal in one big go (and I like a lot of it) , but I really feel that the chances of me finding something brilliant that I missed (according to my tastes) are far greater if I spend my limited time looking backwards.

Prog rock is possibly different but that's really not my thing for the most part.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 13, 2014, 08:58:35 AM
bl5150, I'm the same way with finding music. I have much more success finding music I like if I explore older stuff rather than newer stuff. Not that I don't still find plenty of new releases I like, but I have a much higher success rate with older stuff.
I enjoy the melodic rock, and I'm glad Frontiers is around to keep it going for both new and old artists, but they are churning out a high percentage of samey sounding crap that all sounds like it was written by the same guy, and recorded in the same session, just with different singers over the top. It's worth it for the rare gems, but there's a lot of mediocre stuff to sift through. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on January 13, 2014, 09:28:48 AM
I'm in the same boat. The vast majority of what I listen to is 70s and 80s metal/rock. When I do listen to a "newer" band, they more then likely will have that old school sound.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 13, 2014, 11:48:36 AM
bl5150, I'm the same way with finding music. I have much more success finding music I like if I explore older stuff rather than newer stuff. Not that I don't still find plenty of new releases I like, but I have a much higher success rate with older stuff.
I enjoy the melodic rock, and I'm glad Frontiers is around to keep it going for both new and old artists, but they are churning out a high percentage of samey sounding crap that all sounds like it was written by the same guy, and recorded in the same session, just with different singers over the top. It's worth it for the rare gems, but there's a lot of mediocre stuff to sift through. :lol

Yeah, my feelings too. Back in the day most bands had an identity. Now its all project this, project that, cookie cutter stuff. There's just too much music being made by too few artists at Frontiers. And in the rest of the world there's just too much music being made full stop.

With regard to the stuff that gets reissued from back in the day, there's generally a good reason it didn't make it first time round. I certainly think the cream rose to the top back in the late 80s early 90s, certainly in regard to being signed/having albums released.
I'm open to being proved wrong though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2014, 03:13:09 PM
I like most of what Frontiers has been putting out.  I guess that's where I discovered the genre as opposed to you guys who are into the more older stuff.  I've followed most of what they have put out for about 7 years, so that's what I associate melodic rock with.  I guess that could have something to do with my age too.  I love the old stuff, but am just a sucker for the new stuff.

Agree on the new WET though, that really was a let down compared to the amazing debut.  Still looking forward to the DVD though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 13, 2014, 05:12:18 PM
(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/G/GUN_S.JPG)

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/E/EYEWITNESS_ST.JPG)

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/M/MILLENIUM2.JPG)

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/M/MONARCH_ST.JPG) .................common thread on the last 3 is Ralph Santolla and his terrible guitar tone :)  Monarch sounds like a less capable Sebastian Bach singing for a wimpier Millenium. :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 13, 2014, 05:19:10 PM
and wrong bloody thread  ;D.  oh well - they  belong here anyway.  :angel:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 14, 2014, 04:06:42 AM
Stumbled onto this while browsing the collection tonight.............anyone remember it? (1991) - essentially like Steel Panther with Jeff Scott Soto on vox.

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/S/SKRAPPMETTLE1.JPG)


pretty funny stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 14, 2014, 04:22:19 AM
Stumbled onto this while browsing the collection tonight.............anyone remember it? (1991) - essentially like Steel Panther with Jeff Scott Soto on vox.

(https://heavyharmonies.com/cdcovers/S/SKRAPPMETTLE1.JPG)


pretty funny stuff.

Wierd. i was listening to that on Youtube last night!!!! I was thinking of sending Retire or Die in Chad's roulette but I think That Load is the one...

Not heard that Monarch and Gun never did it for me. Those two Santolla albums are great, though I know what you mean regarding his tone. I'd pick Eyewitness out of the two. Another album I played recently whilst looking for inspiration for Chad's roulette.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 14, 2014, 04:29:13 AM
You'd probably like some of the Monarch .   It's a bit variable in quality and the best track ain't on Youtube.  Not an essential release but pretty good.


I'm not big into Gun either - just grabbed it out for their cover of Word Up which is pretty cool.

The Eyewitness would be my pick too - pretty consistent album and Ralph has put a bit more thought into his solos , half of which often sound improvised (and not in a good way) to me , but then when he nails something it can be great.   I think that'd have to be one of the first releases on Now & Then.  Not too many people would have that album - pretty small release numbers.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2014, 04:53:37 AM
New Gus G solo song with Mats Leven.

Sounds good hey, well, no, it's shit actually.  What the hell?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPqtMMGJAO4
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 15, 2014, 04:58:45 AM
I don't think it's shit, but not something I'm interested in. Way better than Ozzy;s latest, although I don't believe he actually wrote anything on that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2014, 04:52:08 AM
Gus was underused on that album.  Pretty much any guitar player with some decent chops would have been fine on that one.

I just don't care for that song, Gus and Mats should produce better. 

I guess I was just expecting more of an instrumental direction for his solo album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 16, 2014, 05:01:36 AM
I haven't heard anything else from Gus G, so my judgement is limited to that album, unfortunately.
I actually wish more solo albums from guitarists were vocal. Instrumental albums don't really interest me at all, unless it's orchestral or something. It's fine if there are a few instrumental tracks to show off a bit more, but it wears thing pretty quickly for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2014, 05:03:59 AM
I haven't heard anything else from Gus G, so my judgement is limited to that album, unfortunately.
I actually wish more solo albums from guitarists were vocal. Instrumental albums don't really interest me at all, unless it's orchestral or something. It's fine if there are a few instrumental tracks to show off a bit more, but it wears thing pretty quickly for me.

I think you're right, and I'm sure there will be a few instrumental tracks.  This song just threw me off a bit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 16, 2014, 05:10:32 AM
I didn't think it was great either, so it's not like I'm really defending it, but I did find it refreshing that it was a vocal song as opposed to instrumental. Just my own preference of course!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 16, 2014, 10:37:41 PM
A couple of snippets.....................

1. Thadeus Gonzalez confirmed as new vocalist for Lynch Mob


2.  Royal Hunt (1st Aussie dates I believe) + Vanishing Point confirmed for Sydney and Melbourne dates in April.    One thing I find rather weird is it's being promo'd as "DC Cooper's Royal Hunt"  Presumably they think he has some sort of name recognition via Silent Force?  I wouldn't know..............I'll struggle to find someone to go with.



 Shame no Brissie dates Kade............travelling?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on January 16, 2014, 11:03:35 PM
I'll be going to see them in Sydney or Melbourne if I'm down their with work.
Should be a great gig, with VP supporting.

Yeah the DC Cooper thing is strange, we all know that it's Andre's band, he call 's the shots, does the hiring and firing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 17, 2014, 01:20:43 AM
Brent, I'm liking The Kenny McGee you linked in the WAYLTN thread.
I heard Juliet when it came out but don't remember much about it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on January 17, 2014, 02:26:46 AM
I was a bit of a Gun fan back in the day, an old girlfriend of mine got me into them.
Swagger had it's moments, Word Up was a great cover (I have that on CD single) and was generally a pretty good album.
I remember their album 'Gallus' being really good strong rock/hard rock with lots of melody.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 17, 2014, 02:28:38 AM
I was a bit of a Gun fan back in the day, an old girlfriend of mine got me into them.
Swagger had it's moments, Word Up was a great cover (I have that on CD single) and was generally a pretty good album.
I remember their album 'Gallus' being really good strong rock/hard rock with lots of melody.

Gallus is probably more consistent - I hear a lot of INXS influence in there at times.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2014, 03:15:38 AM
Shame no Brissie dates Kade............travelling?

It's always the way. 

I'm actually planning on a my first trip down to Sydney sometimes in the winter, but April could be on the cards, depending on work.  So possibly.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 18, 2014, 12:45:22 PM
Just saw someone post on FB that Fergie Frederiksen passed away today.   :sad:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2014, 02:57:43 AM
Just saw someone post on FB that Fergie Frederiksen passed away today.   :sad:

Fuck man.  I had a feeling this was coming soon since his cancer relapse.  He put up an amazing fight and just listening to his vocals on his new album proves what a strong guy this was.  :'(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2014, 02:59:31 AM
From his official website;

It is with a very heavy heart I tell you that my sweet soulbrother Fergie Frederiksen passed away today January 18.

Fergie has been a true Champ, and a fighter, and for this he got several years extra with us, and actually a couple of extra albums that will be of great joy for fans all over the world for many more years to come.

Now, this has been a Journey for me as well. I started the unofficial Fergie Frederiksen website in the mid 90s, and by the end of the 90s me and Fergie agreed to make it his official website. It has been a joyride, of ups and downs (healthwise), musically only ups! I have loved it all along, to work with Fergie, he has been such a true and good friend to me. Last summer I went to Sweden for a couple of days to hang with him, and he really made my day when he dedicated the Toto song Endless (my all time favourite Toto song!) on stage. Magical for me!

So what now?

Well, we should all celebrate Fergies life and music, the way he impacted us all in such a great way is just start-touching for many of us!

If you still want to donate and contribute to Fergies Family, you can do so. Money now will be spent for his funeral and the costs around this and some events. Go here to donate:

https://www.gofundme.com/3ydgpo

My friend Fergie, thank you very much for all the good years, were you have been such a great part of my life, even a good friend. I wish you a safe journey, I will never forget you and the great moments we had together. Travel in peace

Klaus
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on January 19, 2014, 03:10:37 AM
Yeah, that sucks. Fuck cancer.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 19, 2014, 03:59:59 PM
I haven't listened myself yet but if anyone's interested there's a fairly extensive 3 part interview here from Bob Daisley with an Aussie guitar mag.    Presumably talking about his life/career and upcoming book "For Facts Sake" - which I imagine is dedicated , with much love,  to Sharon Osbourne  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIhAiHeh9j4
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2014, 04:32:59 AM
New Vanishing Point album samples.  Sounds amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P-iwiDolHk
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 20, 2014, 07:55:13 AM
New Vanishing Point album samples.  Sounds amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P-iwiDolHk

Saw that this morning.  They're keeping me interested and intrigued.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2014, 02:54:24 PM
New Vanishing Point album samples.  Sounds amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P-iwiDolHk

Saw that this morning.  They're keeping me interested and intrigued.

It's one of my most anticipated records so far.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 20, 2014, 04:06:51 PM
That certainly wets the appetite. Sounding a bit special.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2014, 07:47:47 PM
This deserves a play just for the DLR scream at the start which sounds hilarious (to me anyway) over that backing ..................I'll go and hide now  ;D



https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lIOdvXE7kbI


Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2014, 03:26:17 AM
That certainly wets the appetite. Sounding a bit special.

I'm setting the bar high, but I think this may be something that the melodic rock world needs.  Sounds original and certainly special.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2014, 03:30:01 AM
Sounded alright, but nothing special. :dunno: At least it had a bit better production than the Frontiers stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2014, 03:32:50 AM
Are you familiar with Vanishing Point?  Killer band from your home state.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2014, 03:35:08 AM
Nope, that's the first I've heard of them. I have no patriotism at all, so their place of origin doesn't help either. :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2014, 03:38:16 AM
Nope, that's the first I've heard of them. I have no patriotism at all, so their place of origin doesn't help either. :P

Check out Embrace the Silence, it's amazing.  Come on man, support the Aussies!! (If you like them of course :))
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2014, 03:39:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlxglhJvo5U

LRS.  Another random Frontiers project.  Sounds generic, but solid, and I'm a big fan of Josh Ramos' guitar playing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2014, 03:40:34 AM
Nope, that's the first I've heard of them. I have no patriotism at all, so their place of origin doesn't help either. :P

Check out Embrace the Silence, it's amazing.  Come on man, support the Aussies!! (If you like them of course :))

Those samples did nothing for me, so I can't say I feel too motivated here. :lol And as I said, zero patriotism here, and I usually go out of my way to avoid Aussie bands if anything.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 21, 2014, 03:41:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlxglhJvo5U

 Sounds generic,

Sure does - good to see Laverdi back in action , although ironically he sounds like Shotton here (who's on drums).  At his best I really like Ramos too , so not sure if I'll bother with this or not.  Certainly sounds like cookie cutter Frontiers style songs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2014, 03:44:38 AM
Nope, that's the first I've heard of them. I have no patriotism at all, so their place of origin doesn't help either. :P

Check out Embrace the Silence, it's amazing.  Come on man, support the Aussies!! (If you like them of course :))

Those samples did nothing for me, so I can't say I feel too motivated here. :lol And as I said, zero patriotism here, and I usually go out of my way to avoid Aussie bands if anything.

Why?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2014, 03:45:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlxglhJvo5U

 Sounds generic,

Sure does - good to see Laverdi back in action , although ironically he sounds like Shotton here (who's on drums).  At his best I really like Ramos too , so not sure if I'll bother with this or not.  Certainly sounds like cookie cutter Frontiers style songs.

Yeah.  For me it depends if there are enough solo spots to be honest.  Love the album Ramos did with Hugo, The Dream.  That was filled with amazing guitar work.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2014, 03:46:13 AM
Nope, that's the first I've heard of them. I have no patriotism at all, so their place of origin doesn't help either. :P

Check out Embrace the Silence, it's amazing.  Come on man, support the Aussies!! (If you like them of course :))

Those samples did nothing for me, so I can't say I feel too motivated here. :lol And as I said, zero patriotism here, and I usually go out of my way to avoid Aussie bands if anything.

Why?

Maybe it's a statement against the silly idea of supporting something based on nothing but geographic proximity, or maybe it's just because nothing good comes out of Australia. :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2014, 03:48:01 AM
I'll never support stuff I don't like, but I'm always ready to give them a go because they are Australian.  I don't support stuff I don't like.  I like most of the Aussie metal bands like VP, Dungeon/Lord, Black Majesty, Eyefear, etc. but there's some stuff which is garbage. (i.e Pegazus.  :facepalm:)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on January 21, 2014, 10:37:31 AM
There are loads of really good Australian metal bands around, that never get the publicity here that their pop counterparts get from TV and radio.
Voyager, Vanishing Point, Ne Obliviscarius, Eyefear, Be'lakor are all world class bands.
I try and support these bands and others, by going to local gigs and buying the CD's.
Without these bands and others, we wouldn't have a metal scene here and the flow on through international bands coming here more often.

I too used to be like you, Mr Blob, but when I discovered that Australia has some very talented bands, it changed my mind and perspective.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 21, 2014, 10:50:06 AM
I think supporting a band just because they're from your country is kind of silly. Of course not supporting them just because they're from your country is silly as well.

tl;dr you're all silly :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 21, 2014, 10:56:45 AM
Nothing wrong with a little patriotism.  I'm sure we'll all be rooting for our home-country athletes in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 21, 2014, 10:59:21 AM
Well, yeah, but I don't have to give them money. :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2014, 11:00:33 AM
Nothing wrong with a little patriotism.  I'm sure we'll all be rooting for our home-country athletes in a couple of weeks.

???
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 21, 2014, 11:02:04 AM
Olympics.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2014, 11:05:15 AM
But that's every 4 years, which means 2016?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 21, 2014, 11:06:01 AM
not sure if serious
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 21, 2014, 11:07:19 AM
not sure if serious

Blob doesn't know much about winter.  I'll forgive him a little.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2014, 11:09:32 AM
Oh right, the Winter Olympics. :facepalm: The silly event where you don't really win, you just sort of default by process of elimination from everybody else injuring themselves. I care even less about that than the regular Olympics, which is already zero.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 21, 2014, 11:11:17 AM
Some of the events are pretty cool.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 21, 2014, 02:35:15 PM
Nothing wrong with a little patriotism.  I'm sure we'll all be rooting for our home-country athletes in a couple of weeks.

If the winter olympics had events focussed on rain GB would be up there but we are pretty shit at the winter stuff. Apart from Hurling- we're great at that. Probably because its a bunch of housewives sweeping the floor.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 21, 2014, 02:43:52 PM
Nothing wrong with a little patriotism.  I'm sure we'll all be rooting for our home-country athletes in a couple of weeks.

If the winter olympics had events focussed on rain GB would be up there but we are pretty shit at the winter stuff. Apart from Hurling- we're great at that. Probably because its a bunch of housewives sweeping the floor.

:puke:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 21, 2014, 02:46:52 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 21, 2014, 03:42:31 PM
Nothing wrong with a little patriotism.  I'm sure we'll all be rooting for our home-country athletes in a couple of weeks.

If the winter olympics had events focussed on rain GB would be up there but we are pretty shit at the winter stuff. Apart from Hurling- we're great at that. Probably because its a bunch of housewives sweeping the floor.

:puke:

Ughh that brings back bad memories.

curling. curling. I meant curling.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Big Hath on January 22, 2014, 02:51:02 PM
I've spent some time lately with both Harem Scarem - Mood Swings and Magnum - On A Storyteller's Night.  Both are fantastic.

Since these were mentioned earlier as some of the best, are there any other albums in their discographies that are close to these two?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 22, 2014, 02:56:43 PM
I've spent some time lately with both Harem Scarem - Mood Swings and Magnum - On A Storyteller's Night.  Both are fantastic.

Since these were mentioned earlier as some of the best, are there any other albums in their discographies that are close to these two?

In a word, no.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2014, 03:07:25 PM
I've spent some time lately with both Harem Scarem - Mood Swings and Magnum - On A Storyteller's Night.  Both are fantastic.

Since these were mentioned earlier as some of the best, are there any other albums in their discographies that are close to these two?

It's pretty well acknowledged that Vigilante and Wings of Heaven are the other two to start with as far as Magnum goes -not necessarily like OASTN but quality..

IMHO the Harem Scarem album closest in sound to Mood Swings -and it's not mega close - would be Believe (or Karma Cleansing depending on the country).  There's a couple of different tracks too on those different versions.

Here's a couple of the singles to try

Die Off Hard  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Mr1jHknYI

Rain  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-xSo1aInB4
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 22, 2014, 04:09:06 PM
With Magnum I'd go for Wings of Heaven next though its a bit less pomp-y, more AOR. Chase the Dragon is pretty good and in a similar vein to OASN, but that album  was a step up. Get the remaster with Back To Earth on it. One of their best songs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2014, 06:23:05 PM
I'd rate Wings of Heaven almost as good as Storyteller, brilliant album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on January 22, 2014, 09:57:28 PM
I love Wings Of Heaven, great album really hits the spot for me.
I really hope that Magnum and which ever label, release the old Live On the Wings of Heaven VHS on DVD/BR.
Now that was Magnum at their very best.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2014, 04:10:51 AM
I really hope that Magnum and which ever label, release the old Live On the Wings of Heaven VHS on DVD/BR.
Now that was Magnum at their very best.

This.  Form what I've seen of it, it's tremendous.  Definitely deserves a DVD release.

The 92 show of Birmingham deserves a proper DVD too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2014, 09:44:31 AM
From Frontiers' FB feed:

Quote
Published on Jan 23, 2014
Frontiers Records is excited to announce the release of PRETTY MAIDS "Louder Than Ever" -- a collection of new songs and re-recorded tracks selected from past albums on March 21st in Europe and March 25th in North America.

"Louder Than Ever" includes the following tracks:

CD: Deranged (New Song); Playing God; Psycho Time Bomb Planet Earth; My Soul To Take (New Song); He Who Never Lived; Virtual Brutality; Tortured Spirit; With These Eyes; Nuclear Boomerang (New Song); Snakes In Eden; Wake Up To The Real World; A Heart Without A Home (New Song).

DVD: A Retrospective of the "Motherland" 2013 World Tour. Includes Archive footage from early stages of the band's career, interviews, backstage, Studio Footage and the usual freakiness.

Official EPK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=404ydIeqUHY&feature=youtu.be&a
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 23, 2014, 11:32:23 AM
I love Wings Of Heaven, great album really hits the spot for me.
I really hope that Magnum and which ever label, release the old Live On the Wings of Heaven VHS on DVD/BR.
Now that was Magnum at their very best.

Saw them 3 times on that tour. Brilliant. Love that video. Well overdue for the dvd treatment. Maybe it was too grainy? I seem to remember the video being that way...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2014, 01:44:32 PM
From Frontiers' FB feed:

Quote
Published on Jan 23, 2014
Frontiers Records is excited to announce the release of PRETTY MAIDS "Louder Than Ever" -- a collection of new songs and re-recorded tracks selected from past albums on March 21st in Europe and March 25th in North America.

"Louder Than Ever" includes the following tracks:

CD: Deranged (New Song); Playing God; Psycho Time Bomb Planet Earth; My Soul To Take (New Song); He Who Never Lived; Virtual Brutality; Tortured Spirit; With These Eyes; Nuclear Boomerang (New Song); Snakes In Eden; Wake Up To The Real World; A Heart Without A Home (New Song).

DVD: A Retrospective of the "Motherland" 2013 World Tour. Includes Archive footage from early stages of the band's career, interviews, backstage, Studio Footage and the usual freakiness.

Official EPK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=404ydIeqUHY&feature=youtu.be&a

This is cool.  Definitely picking this up, and good to see 4 new tracks.  Some interesting choices too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 24, 2014, 03:17:38 AM
New Gotthard due first week of April.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2014, 04:02:18 AM
1 minute Primal Fear samples;

Check out Rebel Fraction, holy shit!!

https://www.melodicrock.com/showcase/primalfear-deliveringtheblack.html
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on January 24, 2014, 07:29:39 AM
Looking forward to getting this on Tuesday. Primal Fear never disappoints!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on January 24, 2014, 10:58:43 AM
For some unknown reason I've never bother with Primal Fear, but I saw a video of a song from the new album and it was pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qv3WvK6Amg4
Where is a good place to start with them?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 24, 2014, 01:52:37 PM
On others' suggestions, I just too the leap with them.  16.6 and Unbreakable are dynamite.  I also got Seven Seals, and have no complaints.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 24, 2014, 01:57:20 PM
On others' suggestions, I just too the leap with them.  16.6 and Unbreakable are dynamite.  I also got Seven Seals, and have no complaints.

Nice. Looking forward to the newie.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2014, 02:12:07 PM
For some unknown reason I've never bother with Primal Fear, but I saw a video of a song from the new album and it was pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qv3WvK6Amg4
Where is a good place to start with them?

Seven Seals, Black Sun, Devil's Ground and Nuclear Fire are classic PF.  16.6 is a good one too. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on January 24, 2014, 05:16:38 PM
For some unknown reason I've never bother with Primal Fear, but I saw a video of a song from the new album and it was pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qv3WvK6Amg4
Where is a good place to start with them?

Seven Seals, Black Sun, Devil's Ground and Nuclear Fire are classic PF.  16.6 is a good one too.


The  debut is classic too.  Actually, they dont have a weak release at all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2014, 05:25:48 PM
Yeah, no weak albums whatsoever!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on January 24, 2014, 07:25:24 PM
Thanks for the recommendations fellas.
But from what I heard heard, aren't PF more power metal than melodic metal?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 24, 2014, 10:26:25 PM
Thanks for the recommendations fellas.
But from what I heard heard, aren't PF more power metal than melodic metal?

Depends how you define/differentiate the two.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 25, 2014, 04:21:59 PM
Looks like another awesome overseas festival I won't be able to make is about to be announced. 

https://www.frontiersrockfestival.com/
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 25, 2014, 05:13:07 PM
Looks like another awesome overseas festival I won't be able to make is about to be announced. 

https://www.frontiersrockfestival.com/

Yeah, saw that on FB and thought "F'n Europeans get all the good shit"
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on January 25, 2014, 07:51:38 PM
<cough> Melodic Rock Festival 4,  Chicago 3-5 2014 <cough>
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 25, 2014, 09:27:47 PM
<cough> Melodic Rock Festival 4,  Chicago 3-5 2014 <cough>

Yeah... and they had one back in Sept too.  Even with M3, Prog/Power USA, we still don't get half the good shit that the Euro's get.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 25, 2014, 10:18:50 PM
I'd take 10% of the good shit Europe gets  :P    The fact that the guy who puts on MRF in the US is Australian says it all  :-\
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 26, 2014, 05:34:07 AM
I'd take 10% of the good shit Europe gets  :P    The fact that the guy who puts on MRF in the US is Australian says it all  :-\

Maybe these days. Back in the day it was all US, US, US.

But as its a Frontiers festival, how will Martensson, Del Vechio etc play all day? And will the venue be a dark and dingy warehouse?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 26, 2014, 05:37:10 AM
 ;D

Perhaps once you see the first act you'll have seen them all 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 26, 2014, 05:41:22 AM
;D

Perhaps once you see the first act you'll have seen them all

OT, were you or Kade the 3rd umpire in the one dayer today?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 26, 2014, 05:44:27 AM
Why do you say that ?  - I was switching between the tennis (mostly) and the cricket so only saw a bit.   Surely you're not referring to the assy stumping - that was clearly out.

Beats me why half of this stuff (run outs out by half the pitch) keep getting referred anyway  ???

I've switched off the cricket for the most part- the Aussies won the series , rested a swag of players and switched off too IMO.  You still hanging around for a bit of glory after the lights have been switched off?  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 26, 2014, 01:55:48 PM
Why do you say that ?  - I was switching between the tennis (mostly) and the cricket so only saw a bit.   Surely you're not referring to the assy stumping - that was clearly out.

Beats me why half of this stuff (run outs out by half the pitch) keep getting referred anyway  ???

I've switched off the cricket for the most part- the Aussies won the series , rested a swag of players and switched off too IMO.  You still hanging around for a bit of glory after the lights have been switched off?  ;D

Hey we gotta take some positives where we can atm. 3rd umpire was guessing with the "stumping" (he dropped the fucking thing!). We would still have found a way to lose with Bopara still there.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on January 26, 2014, 02:03:35 PM
How was the umpire 'guessing'?
The bails were lifted and Bopara's foot was raised and that is out.
Does not matter that Wade dropped the ball, he was out, plain and simple.

TBH the international season is dragging on and on.
Far too many ODI, 3 is enough and now 3 T20 matches?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 26, 2014, 02:23:02 PM
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The official melodic rock/AOR thread

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Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 26, 2014, 02:44:38 PM
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The official melodic rock/AOR thread

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Couldn't have changed the subject better myself. Now,

That Primal Fear album is pretty bloody good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on January 26, 2014, 02:47:48 PM
Yup I found a Japanese version online and checked it out.
Pretty good but nothing I haven't heard already a million times.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2014, 03:08:57 AM
Why do you say that ?  - I was switching between the tennis (mostly) and the cricket so only saw a bit.   Surely you're not referring to the assy stumping - that was clearly out.

Beats me why half of this stuff (run outs out by half the pitch) keep getting referred anyway  ???

I've switched off the cricket for the most part- the Aussies won the series , rested a swag of players and switched off too IMO.  You still hanging around for a bit of glory after the lights have been switched off?  ;D

Hey we gotta take some positives where we can atm. 3rd umpire was guessing with the "stumping" (he dropped the fucking thing!). We would still have found a way to lose with Bopara still there.

I actually didn't catch the game, but just had a look at this incident.  Interesting.  I guess at the end of the day, the ball hit the bails while his foot was off the ground, but they weren't fully dislodged, but they were coming off.  Weird that the ball rebounded off the gloves, I guess there isn't a rule for that because it probably never has happened before.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2014, 03:09:56 AM
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The official melodic rock/AOR thread

:orly:

Couldn't have changed the subject better myself. Now,

That Primal Fear album is pretty bloody good.

Good to hear.  Hopefully I can find a copy soon.

Yup I found a Japanese version online and checked it out.
Pretty good but nothing I haven't heard already a million times.

PF were never about producing something new or original anyway.  Do you know what extras the Japan version has?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2014, 03:16:07 AM
Why do you say that ?  - I was switching between the tennis (mostly) and the cricket so only saw a bit.   Surely you're not referring to the assy stumping - that was clearly out.

Beats me why half of this stuff (run outs out by half the pitch) keep getting referred anyway  ???

I've switched off the cricket for the most part- the Aussies won the series , rested a swag of players and switched off too IMO.  You still hanging around for a bit of glory after the lights have been switched off?  ;D

Hey we gotta take some positives where we can atm. 3rd umpire was guessing with the "stumping" (he dropped the fucking thing!). We would still have found a way to lose with Bopara still there.

I actually didn't catch the game, but just had a look at this incident.  Interesting.  I guess at the end of the day, the ball hit the bails while his foot was off the ground, but they weren't fully dislodged, but they were coming off.  Weird that the ball rebounded off the gloves, I guess there isn't a rule for that because it probably never has happened before.

No need for a rule - if it hits the stumps while the ball is live it doesn't matter where it came from...................it could've come from the wicket keeper's helmet or bounced off the leg of the guy at short leg - still out if he's out of his crease.  As long as one side of one bail has clearly lifted and it doesn't fall back into place.

Hope the Primal fear is as good as the feedback I'm hearing - my tastes seem to be getting heavier and this'll be right up my alley by the sounds.  I won't be getting it for a little while though......too much other stuff to catch up on first.

Going to have another go at enjoying Rush and Haken for the umpteenth time tomorrow - wish me luck   ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2014, 03:30:27 AM
What Rush are you trying?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2014, 03:37:42 AM
What Rush are you trying?

I'm not normally someone who wastes time "trying" to like bands I clearly don't connect with but so many people whose opinions I respect and whose tastes are close to mine worship them.................so I revisit them occasionally for another shot at it.   Still - I really don't care too much for geddy's voice which makes it a challenge.

Anyway..............I've been told by numerous people that Signals might be more up my alley - a few more hooks involved and apparently one of Geddy's best vocal performances.  I've had that disk sitting around for a while based on those recos so time to give it a spin.  I know a lot of Rush fans hate that album :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2014, 03:40:26 AM
Signals is amazing.  I'd also recommend Grace Under Pressure and for something a bit different, Counterparts.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2014, 04:02:37 AM
Ok - thanks.

Snippet from Gotthard new single sounds like a snooze to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW0qg31Feqw
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2014, 04:25:32 AM
Never checked out that band at all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2014, 04:05:01 AM
Iron Savior - Burning Heart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHjE0r3ccyc

Simple but solid.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2014, 04:08:51 AM
TIMO TOLKKI'S AVALON REVEALS THE ALBUM TITLE AND FULL CAST OF SECOND ALBUM:
The anticipated sophomore release from Timo Tolkki's Avalon will be entitled “Angels Of The Apocalypse” and is slated for a May release through Frontiers Records. The singers that will appear on the album are: Floor Jansen (new Nightwish singer), Simone Simons (of Epica), Fabio Lione (of Rhapsody Of Fire), David DeFeis (of Virgin Steele), Elize Ryd (of Amaranthe) and Caterina Nix (who will release her debut album produced by Tolkki, later this year).
Other musicians which will appear on the album include two other former members of Stratovarius: Tuomo Lassila (Stratovarius' founder) on drums and Antti Ikonen, the original keyboard player of Stratovarius.
Timo Tolkki also announces a contest for guitar and keyboard players. Now you have the chance to play a solo with Timo Tolkki in one song of the album. Please send one MP3 that contains your solo playing to this email address: solos@tolkki.org.
The winner will receive a backing track and will play his/her solos to this. The MP3's for the contest has to be sent NOT LATER than 16th of February. You can also visit www.avalonopera.com for videoblogs that has been made from the recordings of the album.


David Defeis, nice, but this is coming together really quickly, and after the first one, I don't know if I even wanna give this a chance.

The solo competition sounds stupid too.  What, I just aimlessly solo and Timo picks the one he likes and then I get a backing track to record a solo too, that seems pretty silly to me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on January 29, 2014, 04:43:51 AM
I don't have high hopes for it, but if it ends up on Spotify/whatever I might as well give it a chance.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 29, 2014, 05:33:51 AM
Agreed.  Not sure this cast of vocalists can save us from his compositions.  I will still try to reserve judgment, and hold a little bit of hope.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 30, 2014, 06:57:27 PM
Re the Messiah's Kiss................as discussed with Chad in album thread.

I'd say it's pretty cliche "true metal"/power metal - heavily influenced by Accept/Primal Fear/Judas Priest/Running Wild with a huge metal crunch.  I get tired of a lot of this stuff pretty quick - heard it all before mostly.  This'll be something I'll listen to only  very occasionally - I'd rather listen to Running Wild -  but I'd rate it as pretty good for what it is.

Just look at the track titles  ;D

1.    The Rising   01:05    
2.    Light in the Black   03:28    
3.    Reign of Fire   04:31    
4.    Dream Evil   03:45    
5.    Blood, Sweat & Tears   03:12    
6.    Thunderball   04:04    
7.    Prayer for the Dying   03:14   
8.    Night Comes Down   05:08    
9.    Mortal Sin   04:04    
10.    Final Warning   05:08   
11.    Pride & Glory   03:41    
12.    Blood of the Kings

Death to false metal  :metal

Here's a track to sample (the best on the album IMO)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2j1DOk9ANo

This was their debut - I think I have one other album of theirs somewhere.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2014, 04:29:57 AM
Wow, that tracklist is as cliche and ripped off as Freedom Call's Circle of Life.  Is there like 5 covers on that album?

I checked the song and it was okay enough, but I don't really need any new bands like this.

Also, the main riff was scaringly similar to Mercyful Fate's Uninvited Guest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKHL6VhtdO8

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2014, 04:38:08 AM
One for Blob

THE ULTIMATE STAN BUSH ALBUM ARRIVES IN MARCH:
Legendary AOR singer/songwriter Stan Bush is ready to deliver The Ultimate and MelodicRock Records is proud to announce a partnership to bring Stan's all-new studio album to fans worldwide.

MelodicRock Records has signed Stan Bush for the release of The Ultimate in Europe, with Stan's own LA Records handling the USA release.
Worldwide icon of melodic rock Stan Bush is best known for his song The Touch, made famous by Transformers: The Movie. An anthem for Transformers fans around the world, "The Touch" was released for Guitar Hero in 2009 and remixed by High Moon Studios in 2013 for their hit video game Transformers: Fall of Cybertron. It has also been featured on NBC's Chuck, FOX's American Dad, Deep Silver's Saints Row IV and in the motion picture Boogie Nights.

The Ultimate is Stan Bush's 12th studio album and delivers his most electrifying work yet! Reuniting with Touch collaborator Lenny Macaluso for the powerful title anthem, The Ultimate sees Bush return with the kind of uplifting motivational rock that has become his signature. The Macaluso track Thunder in Your Heart gets reinvented for The Ultimate album, which also contains the soaring anthems Heat of the Battle and Unstoppable.
Stan Bush's new album The Ultimate offers trademark tracks like Stand in the Fire alongside the heartfelt introspection of Love Again, The Memory of You and Something to Believe as Bush takes on love, loss and the search for meaning. With his latest release, the veteran rocker strikes the perfect balance between his high-octane, positively-charged style and mature, emotive songcraft.

In 2010, Stan Bush released the audio gem Dream The Dream, and one of the music videos, Your Time, became a viral hit on YouTube. Bush's active involvement with social media channels like YouTube and Twitter keeps his ever-growing fanbase engaged, while he remains on top of his game musically. Stan's critically-acclaimed 2007 release In This Life was named Album of the Year by RockUnited.com! It features Til All Are One, the official theme of the global gathering of Transformers fans, BotCon.
In 1997, Stan Bush won an Emmy Award for Best Original Song for his track "Til I Was Loved By You." Another Bush original, "Capture the Dream," was featured at the 1996 Olympic Games in Atlanta. His songs are heard in two Jean-Claude Van Damme films: Kickboxer and Bloodsport. Stan has co-written with top songwriters like Jonathan Cain (Journey,) Jim Vallance (Bryan Adams, Aerosmith,) and Paul Stanley of KISS. Stan has toured extensively throughout the United States and Europe in his storied career.


MRR owner Andrew McNeice: Stan is one of the true icons of melodic rock. He has always been one of my favourite vocalists, dating back to his debut album and working with him over the years always a pleasure. It is an honor that we form a closer partnership to release his brand new album, which I think has all the requirements to become another Stan Bush classic.

The Ultimate is set for release worldwide on March 17!

There will be a pre-sale announcement for the album in February on MelodicRock.com and StanBush.com and folks can always reserve a copy via their favourite online retailers in due course. Stan will headline the Friday night of MelodicRockFest 4 this October in Arlington Heights, IL.

Track listing: 01) Something To Believe 02) The Ultimate 03) Heat Of The Battle 04) Love Again 05) Stand In The Fire 06) Unstoppable 07) Thunder In Your Heart 08) The Journey 09) The Memory Of You 10) If I'm Not Lovin' You 11) The Touch (Power Mix).
For More Information, please visit: StanBush.com / MelodicRockRecords.com / MelodicRockFest.com.


https://www.melodicrock.com/

There's a sound link on the official melodic rock page.  It's alright, but I only have Dream the Dream and it really didn't impress me at all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 31, 2014, 04:40:55 AM
Wow, that tracklist is as cliche and ripped off as Freedom Call's Circle of Life.  Is there like 5 covers on that album?

I checked the song and it was okay enough, but I don't really need any new bands like this.

Also, the main riff was scaringly similar to Mercyful Fate's Uninvited Guest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKHL6VhtdO8


No covers I don't think - just some very obvious/ripped off song titles.  Like I said - I won't be rushing to play it again but it's decent enough if you like this style.

One of many CD's I've had laying around unplayed for ages (for a reason in some cases it seems  ;D )- trying to get to one of them each day at the moment .  Hopefully there's a forgotten gem in there somewhere.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2014, 04:43:12 AM
New Primal Fear vid - King for a Day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4hKantlTAgY

WOW, this is pretty fucking great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2014, 07:01:35 AM
Thanks for the link. Only yesterday I was searching for more info on a release date after he announced the track list on his Twitter/FB. I'm glad they're including Heat of the Battle and Thunder in Your Heart, as those were both great single releases.

New song is pretty average to me, although it has the usual high standard of production I expect from his work (as best I can tell from a low quality Soundcloud stream), and his usual style I enjoy, so if this is a weaker track, I'm not concerned.

And listen to In This Life. It's a more solid album than Dream the Dream (although Dream the Dream has some equally excellent tracks).
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 31, 2014, 07:09:30 AM
The John Farnham version of Thunder In Your Heart is far better - and I like Stan Bush.    One of the few examples of what that great voice could've done (and could still do) if he wasn't playing to the blue rinse brigade. 

The Farnham version was on the soundtrack to a dodgy BMX movie called RAD :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNVZzXgMdXs


I'm sure a few Aussies know this ....................as a beer ad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2014, 07:16:32 AM
The John Farnham version of Thunder In Your Heart is far better - and I like Stan Bush.    One of the few examples of what that great voice could've done (and could still do) if he wasn't playing to the blue rinse brigade. 

I think Stan Bush did a damn good job of it. Keep in mind John Farnham wasn't 60 when he sang it, so that's admirable! Musically I think the new version is a litle better, with the vocals in the original being a little better, so all in all I'll call it equal.
Did you ever see it on the beer commercial here? I got a kick out of that, even if it was something as tacky as a beer commercial. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 31, 2014, 07:18:11 AM
I'd just edited my post above to mention the beer ad  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2014, 07:26:03 AM
I don't typically watch the kind of show that would include a beer commercial, I only saw it while passing my dad watching football, not something I'd voluntarily submit myself to. :biggrin:

It was still awesome to hear Stan Bush on regular TV though. :metal This has been my most anticipated album for the past half a year or so, and of this year so far.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 31, 2014, 07:40:58 AM
Bands announced............................bloody hell  :-\

https://www.frontiersrockfestival.com/?lang=en
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2014, 07:47:15 AM
Dayam.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 31, 2014, 07:52:57 AM
Holy hell the top 9 are killer!!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 31, 2014, 10:46:27 AM
Holy hell the top 9 are killer!!!

Only JSS and Crazy Lixx interest me out of the rest but  you're right .That top 9 is pretty flawless. And all bands who are still great live despite the years.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on January 31, 2014, 11:30:41 AM
awesome line up!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2014, 02:42:17 PM
The John Farnham version of Thunder In Your Heart is far better - and I like Stan Bush.    One of the few examples of what that great voice could've done (and could still do) if he wasn't playing to the blue rinse brigade. 

The Farnham version was on the soundtrack to a dodgy BMX movie called RAD :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNVZzXgMdXs


I'm sure a few Aussies know this ....................as a beer ad.

I don't know what that wasn't a bigger hit for Farnham.  He should of put it on an album too.

Another killer version is Lionville, featuring Lars from Work of Art;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m6EOHtbhEw
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 31, 2014, 06:37:13 PM
I was being sensitive to Blob's  :heart for Stan by not mentioning another better version by Lionville but seeing as you did ...  :neverusethis:


I rate Lars very highly as a vocalist - as good as there's been in recent years - but , even though they're better than most , Work Of Art/Lionville still fall into that cookie cutter/Frontiers project sound for me.  Most of the songs/albums just blend into each other.

I wish he could sing on one of the rare projects with a nice variety of well written songs like the first Place Vendome.  I hate to say it (as I like WOA) but I reckon he's too good for them.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2014, 07:25:00 PM
Meh, the Lionville version is very average and sterile. I've heard it before, and it's got nuthin' on Bush's version.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 31, 2014, 10:09:12 PM
Meh, the Lionville version is very average and sterile. I've heard it before, and it's got nuthin' on Bush's version.

I was just kidding mate  :P   ;D  I just refreshed my memory and had a proper listen to the Lionville and yeah- I'd rate it below the Bush version and both well below Farnham.   Too sugary and sounds like everything else they do , only wimpier :)  I do love Lars' voice though - just in songs with a little more oomph.

The first track on the first WOA album was a ripsnorter and from there I liked them a little bit less with each song due to the whole samey thing.  Lionville is similar - quality but not much variety........liked the second better than the first though.

 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 31, 2014, 10:31:48 PM
Ooh curse you bl5150! :getoffmylawn:

I love the vocals too, the music just isn't quite my preference in the genre.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: rickhawk80 on February 01, 2014, 07:51:57 AM
I searched the forum before posting about this guy but I'm a little surprised to see no one has ever posted about Johnny Lima -- he's got a voice like Bon Jovi but songs that are good, unlike Bon Jovi's output lo these many recent years.   :lol  His last album, "Livin' Out Loud," was fantastic from beginning to end:

https://www.cdbaby.com/cd/lima4 (https://www.cdbaby.com/cd/lima4)

(https://gp1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/802892/production_public/Photo/1020802/image/LivinOutLoud_1237787482.jpg)

Great catchy melodic hard rock.  He's just now putting out his new 5th album, "My Revolution," and decided to do one of those Indie pledge drives and easily hit the funding mark.  It's the first time I've ever done one of those pledge things.  I pledged enough to get the CD rather than just a download and it included extra tracks and showed up with a personal note from Johnny on the CD cover in the mail this week. :2metal:

It's a shame the guy doesn't get more support when you consider the love Bon Jovi still gets and Johnny is essentially a better Bon Jovi.  :biggrin:

 :tup  Check him out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flwdC5GjfLQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flwdC5GjfLQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuzlUAzb2WI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuzlUAzb2WI)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ddZQKNHf2I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ddZQKNHf2I)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 01, 2014, 07:53:34 AM
I got Livin' Out Loud a while back, but I've deleted it now. It was ok, but I can't remember much else. Obviously I didn't think much of it if it was culled though. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2014, 07:59:04 AM
I got Livin' Out Loud a while back, but I've deleted it now. It was ok, but I can't remember much else. Obviously I didn't think much of it if it was culled though. :lol

Decent album. He has a new one due which I'll give a go to.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 01, 2014, 08:01:26 AM
I just checked out those songs, and they confirm what I remember. Decent enough songs, but nothing that stands out from the endless stream of melodic rock I've checked out over the years.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: rickhawk80 on February 01, 2014, 08:38:02 AM
I got Livin' Out Loud a while back, but I've deleted it now. It was ok, but I can't remember much else. Obviously I didn't think much of it if it was culled though. :lol

Decent album. He has a new one due which I'll give a go to.
The new one is pretty good, Lowdz, but if I'm being honest my first take is that I'd rate it about fourth after Livin' Out Loud, Made in California and Version 1.2.  Of course, I just got it this week so I've only given it a couple spins so far. :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2014, 03:21:42 AM
I wish he could sing on one of the rare projects with a nice variety of well written songs like the first Place Vendome.  I hate to say it (as I like WOA) but I reckon he's too good for them.

The other project he does is a metal band called Enbound.  It's pretty generic power metal, but decent enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR-2mWEG5yI
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 02, 2014, 03:26:55 AM
I do recall that one - didn't bother buying it but I recall the  video with them in gold paint and I think Lars recorded under another name? And they covered Beat It while they were at it.   Rather weird , whatever they were trying to achieve there.

Edit - actually I do have it in digital format , so can't have been too bad.  Forgot I had it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2014, 03:36:54 AM
Yeah, it's not too bad at all, just nothing new.  THe video is funny as shit though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 02, 2014, 01:10:12 PM
I wish he could sing on one of the rare projects with a nice variety of well written songs like the first Place Vendome.  I hate to say it (as I like WOA) but I reckon he's too good for them.

The other project he does is a metal band called Enbound.  It's pretty generic power metal, but decent enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR-2mWEG5yI

Now I like that!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 02, 2014, 01:19:55 PM
I wish he could sing on one of the rare projects with a nice variety of well written songs like the first Place Vendome.  I hate to say it (as I like WOA) but I reckon he's too good for them.

The other project he does is a metal band called Enbound.  It's pretty generic power metal, but decent enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR-2mWEG5yI

Now I like that!

I love Enbound!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 02, 2014, 01:54:48 PM
Don't know 'em.  Guess I'll have to check it out later.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 02, 2014, 02:00:10 PM
Don't know 'em.  Guess I'll have to check it out later.
I would've used them in your roulette, but you had 3 or 4 plays on your Last FM. If you had played the same song 3 or 4 times, I would've but you had played a few songs.

It's an awesome album though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 02, 2014, 06:07:40 PM
Don't know 'em.  Guess I'll have to check it out later.

Whats the official number of your bands to check out list lol.

Must be in the triple digits.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2014, 07:03:32 PM
I wish he could sing on one of the rare projects with a nice variety of well written songs like the first Place Vendome.  I hate to say it (as I like WOA) but I reckon he's too good for them.

The other project he does is a metal band called Enbound.  It's pretty generic power metal, but decent enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR-2mWEG5yI

Now I like that!

Thank TAC, he was the one that got me onto them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 02, 2014, 09:26:22 PM
Don't know 'em.  Guess I'll have to check it out later.

Whats the official number of your bands to check out list lol.

Must be in the triple digits.

Maybe not bands, but definitely if you add up all the albums.  And now with a whole new crop from the Roulette, definitely.  I have multiple 'categories' too... just a general 'check-it-out', one from Top 50s, one from WPaPU, one from other Roulette's, and one from KevShmev's prog song of the day thread.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 03, 2014, 04:34:36 AM
Just seen one of the albums you've played on your LAstfm and I'm worried. Very worried.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 04, 2014, 07:20:41 PM
First verdict from today's couple of new releases:

Within Temptation:  Hydra -  70%  - maybe 75% if I was watching Sharon sing them  ;D

I think 70% is probably generous (on a scale where 70% is still very good) - as a comparison I rated The Unforgiven 93%.  So it's not bad , just not in the same ballpark as The Unforgiven.   To be honest if someone told me that this album was full of leftovers from the prior album I'd have no trouble believing it.   There's little magic in the songs and Zook was being kind when he said the albums "sounds like ass".  It sounds like ass through a muffler.

The only songs I would be coming back to regularly are the opener Let It Burn - mostly for Sharon's vocal performance rather than it being a wonderful song - and the closer , the ballad The Whole World is Watching.    Next best would be the guest spots from Howard Jones (who sounds a bit like Barlow in places) and Tarja ...............didn't see the need for the rapper at all and the rest I found to be very forgettable.

It seems it's not the norm these days to put out albums that have their own "personality"/sound but this really does sound like a poor version of the last album.   After I've listened to this wall of mud , chugga chugga stuff I really feel the need to listen to a disc containing  a riff with some imagination.....even something that could be called a riff.  And how bands can put out stuff that sounds like this , especially when they've released good stuff prior , is beyond me ........unless they really want this sound and then that's even more baffling.

So - solid album and not much more.  Sorry if the above doesn't read well - all typed in a rush while working.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 05, 2014, 03:38:51 AM
I rate Red Dragon cartel 65%  -  it's certainly worth sampling to see if you like it but IMHO it falls short in multiple areas.


Firstly the PROS:

- great to have Jake back in any capacity - he's an idol of mine
- Darren isn't as bad as has been made out
- allowing for the modern,slightly industrial sound they've gone for it's got a pretty decent production
- Robin Zander sounds good on Feeder and Darren does a good job on my favourite track - the ballady Fall From The Sky (Seagull) which is quite a nice song

CONS:

- as I had expected, based on his output since Badlands and a very long break, Jake is (if I remove my positive bias) a shadow of his former self.   He plays okay in parts and the big plus is (like all great players) he still has an easily recognised sound/vibrato etc....but it's pretty average really.

- aside from the two songs mentioned above (and parts of the single Deceived) there's not much catchy material.  Fans of Ozzy fronted Sabbath should like War Machine where Darren does a good Ozzy impression but it's a bit TOO obvious in its Sabbath worship.

- I've come to the conclusion that , rather than being Darren's voice/talent, the main issue with his performance (and the verse in the single especially) is very poorly created vocal melodies.  Darren actually does a decent job for the most part and when he doesn't it seems more to do with the writing.  Perhaps that has something to do with his relative lack of experience as a singer/writer.

Sass Jordan does a reasonable job on her song , just not a great song.  Paul DiAnno isn't much chop on an average song and same goes for Maria Brink.

So there you have it - pretty much met my (low) expectations.  Great to see Jake back and rocking harder than I expected-  hopefully this is a springboard to something better for him.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 05, 2014, 03:57:08 AM
Deceived, Shout it Out, Feeder and War Machine are all pretty good songs, but overall I agree with your assessment.
There are certainly parts of the album that make me believe Jake E. Lee still has it in him to write a great rock album, but this feels like he's still getting the rust off. The production is great, there are some rockin' sections, but overall I don't think Lee has quite found his modern sound yet, so a lot of it is fairly average metal.
I had moderate expectations for this album, and it fell a little short unfortunately. I still got a few decent songs out of it though, so it's not a complete loss.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 05, 2014, 04:19:44 AM
I doubt I'll be spending my money on it to be honest.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 05, 2014, 06:06:37 AM
I'm having a go at Hydra and RDC on Spotify this morning.  I'm not a huge WT fan, and this album isn't turning me into one (I'm about 1/2 way thru it now).  Seems rather run of the mill.  Nothing stands out in a good or bad way - except that rap song; totally unnecessary.  It's not like either of them are Run DMC or Aerosmith.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: rickhawk80 on February 05, 2014, 06:10:26 AM
I doubt I'll be spending my money on it to be honest.

I listened to bits and pieces of Red Dragon Cartel online and the couple of full tracks that have been streaming and came away from it with a very .... meh .... feeling.  I agree you can tell it's Jake playing right away but nothing that really wows me for would have me coming back to listen to it again and again.  Glad Jake is back but this release is nothing special compelling me to spend my bucks on it.   :|
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 05, 2014, 10:51:03 AM
I doubt I'll be spending my money on it to be honest.

I listened to bits and pieces of Red Dragon Cartel online and the couple of full tracks that have been streaming and came away from it with a very .... meh .... feeling.  I agree you can tell it's Jake playing right away but nothing that really wows me for would have me coming back to listen to it again and again.  Glad Jake is back but this release is nothing special compelling me to spend my bucks on it.   :|
Same here.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 05, 2014, 03:15:17 PM
Had a listen to the RDC and feel the same as the general consensus. Sounds good and Jake is certainly there and performing but a distinct lack of quality songs. Not a total write off though. By contrast I listened to The Ultimate Sin straight after.  :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 05, 2014, 04:43:58 PM
Had a listen to the RDC and feel the same as the general consensus. Sounds good and Jake is certainly there and performing but a distinct lack of quality songs.

Having never been deep into the Ozzy discog, or Badlands at all, I have no frame of reference for Jake's material.  RDC was decent.  Nothing that wow'd me, but nothing terrible.  Unfortunately, in this day and age with the amount of AMAZING music out there, I definitely won't be buying it, nor coming back to it too often - if at all.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 05, 2014, 09:22:50 PM
The new Primal Fear and Silent Force are outstanding!  I think the PF release is the best since seven seals and the Silent Force is a melodic metal classic.  A change in sound for Silent Force, but it works big time.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 06, 2014, 03:41:03 AM
Preview track from an upcoming album by some Spanish dudes called Secret (ex 91 Suite)..............sounds typical latter day AOR , however just an extra touch of class and the odd bit of variety in there.  I think it sounds promising , even  if a little formulaic.   

https://www.melodicrock.com/audio/Secret%20-%20Since%20I%20Fell%20For%20You.mp3


Had a listen to Cleaning Out The Closet today back to back with Train of Thought and guess which one's going back in the closet?  Train of Thought   ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2014, 03:58:07 AM
The new Primal Fear and Silent Force are outstanding!  I think the PF release is the best since seven seals and the Silent Force is a melodic metal classic.  A change in sound for Silent Force, but it works big time.

This excites me.  And yeah, the Silent Force is really good, a definite keeper.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 06, 2014, 06:00:52 AM
Having never been deep into the Ozzy discog
You don't need to go too deep. Just three albums is all you need. The first three.
Blizzard Of Oz
Diary Of A Madman
Bark At The Moon (w/ Jake)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 06, 2014, 06:04:01 AM
Having never been deep into the Ozzy discog
You don't need to go too deep. Just three albums is all you need. The first three.
Blizzard Of Oz
Diary Of A Madman
Bark At The Moon (w/ Jake)

Um no! No More Tears is easily up there with the first two, and miles better than BATM, and Ozzmosis is pretty damn good too. Even his other albums have at least a few good redeeming tracks, aside from the latest steaming pile.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 06, 2014, 06:06:49 AM
Having never been deep into the Ozzy discog
You don't need to go too deep. Just three albums is all you need. The first three.
Blizzard Of Oz
Diary Of A Madman
Bark At The Moon (w/ Jake)
Um no! No More Tears is easily up there with the first two, and miles better than BATM, and Ozzmosis is pretty damn good too. Even his other albums have at least a few good redeeming tracks, aside from the latest steaming pile.
Well I rank No More Tears #4 and Ozzmosis #5, so I like them very much too. But if I can only have three, they both lose out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 06, 2014, 06:08:25 AM
But you said the first three are all you need, but No More Tears is definitely as essential as the first two imo. I'd put them in a 3 way tie. BATM doesn't match up to those, although it is overall quite good, especially if you throw in Spiders. :hat
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 06, 2014, 06:10:59 AM
J-Boy..buy 4 Ozzy albums and include No More Tears! ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 06, 2014, 06:13:43 AM
:biggrin: I can live with that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 06, 2014, 06:13:59 AM
Every single Ozzy album up to and including No More Tears is a ripper IMO.      No Rest For The Wicked took a long while to grow on me but did eventually....still my least favourite of the lot though.   I'll never forget getting that - got it for Xmas '88 (age 14) and I was at that stage a huge Jake fan and I raced over to the tape deck to play it and was in shock - WTF happened to Jake?!!!   >:(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 06, 2014, 06:18:55 AM
Every single Ozzy album up to and including No More Tears is a ripper IMO.      No Rest For The Wicked took a long while to grow on me but did eventually....still my least favourite of the lot though.   I'll never forget getting that - got it for Xmas '88 (age 14) and I was at that stage a huge Jake fan and I raced over to the tape deck to play it and was in shock - WTF happened to Jake!!!   >:(

No Rest for the Wicked is still my least favourite Ozzy album, latest album aside (which I barely even count). Miracle Man kicks ass, and Crazy Babies and Breaking All the Rules are good, but the rest is bleh. I really like the Jake E. Lee stuff, but they're a bit inconsistent imo. The better tracks are amazing, but there are some duds in there.
And I think some of the later Ozzy albums are hugely underrated. Ozzmosis is damn good, just behind Diary/Blizzard/NMT, and Down to Earth is equal to the Lee albums.
I even enjoy a few songs off Black Rain (with the rest being crap), but Scream totally lost me. I'm a big Ozzy fan, but that one's past the point of no return.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 06, 2014, 06:21:27 AM
I actually really like Ozzmosis. See You On The Other Side is a Top 5 Ozzy song for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 06, 2014, 06:23:30 AM
I actually really like Ozzmosis. See You On The Other Side is a Top 5 Ozzy song for me.

I really love that one too. Some strong vocals from Ozzy on that album. The only tracks I don't like from the album are Thunder Underground, and Denial. The rest is excellent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zydar on February 06, 2014, 06:24:06 AM
I Just Want You :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 06, 2014, 06:26:09 AM
I actually really like Ozzmosis. See You On The Other Side is a Top 5 Ozzy song for me.

So do I - just not as much as those earlier albums , but that's where I started to gradually lose interest in new stuff.   Scream is crap as Blob said - Down To Earth I haven't listened to in so long I can't even remember.  I seem to recall that even though Zakk played on it (and he was beginning to "black label" Ozzy's sound) he didn't have any writing credits - Joe Holmes and others if memory serves.

I should go back and check that one out again.

See You On The Other Side is probably my fave track on Ozzmosis too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 06, 2014, 06:30:55 AM
I actually really like Ozzmosis. See You On The Other Side is a Top 5 Ozzy song for me.

So do I - just not as much as those earlier albums , but that's where I started to gradually lose interest in new stuff.   Scream is crap as Blob said - Down To Earth I haven't listened to in so long I can't even remember.  I seem to recall that even though Zakk played on it (and he was beginning to "black label" Ozzy's sound) he didn't have any writing credits - Joe Holmes and others if memory serves.

That would be correct. He rejoined Ozzy fairly late in the process, I believe. It's a good heavy album, with the Zakk Wylde sound, without being too far in that direction yet like the next one. Not one of Ozzy's absolute best, but still far from his worst. An underrated album. Facing Hell has always been my favourite track.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2014, 06:44:32 AM
J-Boy..buy 4 Ozzy albums and include No More Tears! ;D

No More Tears is the one solo album I do have!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 06, 2014, 06:58:14 AM
J-Boy..buy 4 Ozzy albums and include No More Tears! ;D

No More Tears is the one solo album I do have!
Well, no wonder you didn't get anything else.. Oops, I hope Blob didn't hear that! ;D

No More Tears is great, all kidding aside.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 06, 2014, 07:00:00 AM
:lol
How could anyone hear No More Tears, and not instantly want to explore further? Shame on you, jingle!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2014, 08:02:36 AM
:lol
How could anyone hear No More Tears, and not instantly want to explore further? Shame on you, jingle!

:emo:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Delirious Nomad on February 06, 2014, 09:39:49 AM
RDC made me rediscover the first two Badlands recordings. Brilliant stuff. Timeless. I heard maybe 3 tracks of the debut and didn't like it. I guess I was expecting more Ultimate Sin style Glam Metal. Now I just can't get enough of the two albums.
RDC : Jake still has a great tone that makes listening to him enjoyable, even when the songs are not that spectacular.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2014, 12:53:40 PM
RDC made me rediscover the first two Badlands recordings. Brilliant stuff. Timeless. I heard maybe 3 tracks of the debut and didn't like it. I guess I was expecting more Ultimate Sin style Glam Metal. Now I just can't get enough of the two albums.
RDC : Jake still has a great tone that makes listening to him enjoyable, even when the songs are not that spectacular.

 :tup
I was a little disappointed with Badlands initially, the first two songs aside. They did grow though.

Ozzy wise it would be

Diary
Blizzard
Ultimate Sin
Bark

I like the odd song here and there but nothing else held my interest and Zakk was a poor replacement for Jake.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2014, 01:18:32 PM
Bark at the Moon is actually one of my least fav Ozzy records.  The Ultimate Sin is my favourite.  I'm quite a fan of No Rest and Ozzmosis too.  Down to Earth was his last good album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 06, 2014, 01:30:10 PM
Wow, I don't think that The Zultimate Sin is even in the same league as Bark At The Moon.  :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2014, 01:30:50 PM
Tastes!!!! Who needs 'em!?!?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2014, 01:34:58 PM
Okay, I'm frustrated at the moment.  The album that made me start this thead, Mercury's Down, I have lost my physical copy of it.  :lol

Now, the last couple of years I have been slack with my cd storing and they just pile up randomly, but it was sitting right on top of the other cd that started this thread Work of Art's In Progress and under Eclipse's Bleen and Scream.  I was going to grab it the other day to play the propper cd audio in the car and it has disappeared.

For the last 3 days I have searched every cd, every hiding place, the car, work, everywhere a cd would travel, but it has just gone, and I can't for the life of me think of where it may have ended up.  I don't care about losing it too much cause I can get another copy, but the frustration of not knowing what happened to it, is bugging me.  Nothing else seems missing from what I can see, which makes it all the more frustrating.  I have a digital copy of it, but still, annoying.

I'm gonna get another copy if it doesn't turn up.  I'm looking at the Japan edition which has a bonus track of Strong Enough as a duet with Hitchcock and Martenssen.  Sorry for the rant,  just wanted to get that off my chest as it's driving me nuts.  :facepalm: :lol

EDIT:  Found the bloody thing.  It was dug under the passenger seat of my car almost under the mat, must not have looked properly the first time lol.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2014, 01:44:01 PM
Wow, I don't think that The Zultimate Sin is even in the same league as Bark At The Moon.  :)

I hated Bark for a long time. 2-3 good songs. Its grown on me now that Slow Down is on there. The original UK version lacked that rocker. Jake is too restrained on Bark - he's all over TUS.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 06, 2014, 07:19:22 PM
I didn't know you missed out on Slow Down - one of my faves on BATM.


Thoughts on Primal Fear after one listen - good album but won't be racing back to it.......rate it around 70% (edit : upgraded to 72% after listening to bonus track Man Without Shadow ).  Note that 70% is very good on my scale.


PROS:

- brutally heavy in parts and an awesome crisp production
- one or two of their best ever songs

CONS

- was fairly bored of the sound by the end - little variety/songwriting tangents among the songs


If I want to listen to something off this I'll probably come back to King For A Day and Man Without Shadow (a bit Allen/Lande-ish in sound)  - there's not a real dud song on it but King For A Day gives me almost everything the other songs do and better.  Great heavy song.

If I want to listen to Karlsson I'd much rather listen to what he does on Allen-Lande.

On the whole though this should really appeal to Primal Fear fans - I've always found them a bit hit and miss and too same-ish and this is no exception.   If I heard a few songs one by one with days in between I'd likely predict an absolute monster of an album but all of them back to back and I was a bit tired of it by the end.

It's got enough going for it for me to rate it higher than WT and Red Dragon Cartel.

I wish some other bands would take a leaf out of the production book on this though - awesome job.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2014, 03:58:40 AM
Since you are not the biggest PF fan, your review is quite positive.  Still waiting to get my hands on it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 07, 2014, 04:04:12 AM
What the hey, it's on Spotify, so I'll give it a listen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 07, 2014, 04:55:26 AM
Since you are not the biggest PF fan, your review is quite positive.  Still waiting to get my hands on it.

I'm pretty sure you'll like it - how high it rates compared to others...........I'll be interested what you think.

Just listened to the latest Queensryche and , unlike most other albums I've listened to of late , upgraded ratings on a few tracks.  I like it better after a long break from it.
One thing that stuck out as a negative was some of the lead guitar work.  As an example the last track (Open Road) is one of my faves - a very lush , sweeping song and the guitar solo is at a level I would expect from a 2nd or 3rd year student ........a decent solo would've taken that song to a whole extra level.  I can only assume that was Parker Lundgren  :-\  .....ruined it a bit for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 07, 2014, 04:59:32 AM
I'm only at track 5 on the Primal Fear album, and I can already hear what you mean about it getting a bit monotonous, but if you enjoy the sound, that's not necessarily a bad thing at all. From what I've heard so far, it all seems pretty solid and catchy, it's just that there aren't a lot of changes or diversity. I'm sure with more listens, the songs would stand out more though.
I didn't mind it at all, but I'm not as much into the metal, so I can only take it in smaller doses before wanting to change it up.

Good production, and what seems to be a pretty solid album. I have no doubt you'll like it wolfking. :tup

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2014, 05:18:05 AM
Wow, if you don't mind it Blob, it must be fucking good.  I'm hoping I can find it at a JB tomorrow.  It's now listed on their website as today as the release date, but doesn't say it's in stock.  If not, I'm ordering it online on Monday.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 07, 2014, 05:31:17 AM
Wow, if you don't mind it Blob, it must be fucking good. 

:lol
Let's hope that's the case for you.
I'm listening through the rest now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2014, 05:48:59 AM
Wow, if you don't mind it Blob, it must be fucking good. 

:lol
Let's hope that's the case for you.
I'm listening through the rest now.

Yeah, I'm a pretty big fan and have followed them since Black Sun (2002), every album has impressed me, so I'm sure I'll dig this one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 07, 2014, 06:19:20 AM
Wow, if you don't mind it Blob, it must be fucking good. 

:lol
Let's hope that's the case for you.
I'm listening through the rest now.

Yeah, I'm a pretty big fan and have followed them since Black Sun (2002), every album has impressed me, so I'm sure I'll dig this one.

You will
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2014, 03:13:23 AM
FUCK YEAH!!  Got home tonight from a very successful JB HI FI shopping day.  Visited a few, but here's what I got today and yesterday.  This haul is pretty much inspired by this thread.  I went to one JB about an hour and a half away where I knew that they would have some different stuff;

(https://www.vandohalen.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/primalfeardeliveringcdcover.jpg)

(https://www.myyearofmardigras.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Survivor_-_Too_Hot_To_Sleep.jpg)

(https://www.recordsale.de/cdpix/n/nightranger-dawnpatrol.jpg)

(https://pad.indiemerch.com/i/2/6/26bf8b02d6.jpg)

Also got the new Periphery EP but I know you guys aren't really interested in that.

I instantly put on Primal Fear and am up to One Night in December, and holy shit is this good stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 09, 2014, 03:59:30 AM
Nice job - the variety of melodic rock/metal available at my local JB's has gone down the shitter in the last few years.  All those old albums are good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2014, 04:02:44 AM
Nice job - the variety of melodic rock/metal available at my local JB's has gone down the sitter in the last few years.  All those old albums are good.

Depends on the staff I think.  The two best ones which is where I found these albums have dudes that are metal heads working on the floor.  I've had a chat with both of them and it shows they know their shit and it reflects in the selections of metal.  When you go to a JB and there is just the run of the mill new metal stuff, you know the staff are fucking new age hipsters that hate metal and rock.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2014, 04:07:54 AM
The Primal Fear is amazing.  I need more listens, but it's better than Unbreakable.  The solo sections are still pretty pedestrian and Magnus is still a bit boxed in with his style of writing when it comes to the solo sections, but it seems he's fitting in his song writing style a lot better now.  I'm impressed with this.  Early highlights are the opener, the amazing Rebel Fraction, the epic, the ballad and the two amazing bonus tracks.

I'm now having a spin of Too Hot to Sleep before I hit the sack, and it's right up my alley.  Amazing songs so far, but boy, I think Erik Martenssen listened to this album a bit too much when he was writing the Jimi Jamison album.  There's sections of these songs that he blatantly ripped off.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 09, 2014, 04:17:04 AM
Speaking of stuff sounding like other albums.................just as I read your post I had the song Smoke & Fire come on by The Magnificent.  Check the first 25 secs of that song if it's handy and see if you can't match the sound to a particular album by one of the big 80's melrock bands.  Everything from the guitar/key sound and production to the vocal - not something I'd normally note but to me it's so obvious.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2014, 04:23:39 AM
Never noticed it before but it's hard to miss really.

Rock now, rock the night!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 09, 2014, 04:28:04 AM
Right band - wrong album although I can see what you mean there too.  For me it's a dead ringer for Out Of This World.


Here's the two side by side -  as if the guitar/key/production wasn't enough the vocalist has to do a Tempest and Oooh yeah and then "Look out!" and then I was like FFS!!!! ....how good is this?  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsETJuftcV0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3rayl1VOj0
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2014, 04:30:03 AM
Yeah, that's one a bit more similar.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 09, 2014, 05:24:33 AM
Awesome Survivor album, good Firehouse album, and the new album you wanted. I'd call that a good haul! :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 09, 2014, 05:38:19 AM
Too Hot To Sleep is such a killer album!! :metal

I was so glad to see them again in 2001 and they played a few songs from that album.  Great show, Survivor, REO & Styx.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 09, 2014, 09:32:18 AM
Great haul Kade.  Love that Fireshouse s/t album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 09, 2014, 12:54:31 PM
Great haul Kade.  Love that Fireshouse s/t album.

Three stellar tracks on that but i prefer the follow up - then they went really shit.
THTS is a great album.

Primal fear's newie is excellent. When Death Comes Knocking  :metal :hefdaddy

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Delirious Nomad on February 09, 2014, 03:30:29 PM
I loved "Don't treat me bad" from the first Firehouse album, but I was thinking the band have not found their style yet. Too generic and exchangeable. I prefer the second one "Hold Your Fire", too. A David Prater production and the sound is very close to I&W. Also like  "3", but ,yeah, it went downhill from there.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 09, 2014, 03:38:57 PM
Firehouse were a solid band who - yes - seemed to lose their touch after the first 2-3 albums.  As has been mentioned I also prefer the Hold Your Fire album.

Both of those albums are pretty solid affairs but I'd really only return to 3-4 great songs off each .

Off the top of my head:

Debut:  Overnight Sensation, All She Wrote , Home Is Where The Heart Is and maybe Helpless

2nd:  Reach For The Sky, Rock You Tonight, Hold Your Fire......and maybe another I'm forgetting.


I think I could make an awesome compilation album out of those two.   
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2014, 07:06:44 PM
It should be stated that I have not heard a single Firehouse song.  I saw the album for $12 and knew the name so I took a punt.  They had another one of their albums, I think it may have been the follow up, but decided to start with the one.

Also, great to see love for the Survivor, it's really good, and the production is awesome.

Spun the Primal Fear twice now and it's brilliant.  The production also is stellar and Ralf's vocals are just stunning.  One Night in December is one of Karlsson's best, and Born With a Broken Heart is easily one of the best ballads he has come up with too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 09, 2014, 08:21:49 PM
It should be stated that I have not heard a single Firehouse song.  I saw the album for $12 and knew the name so I took a punt.  They had another one of their albums, I think it may have been the follow up, but decided to start with the one.

I think Hold Your Fire is the better album, so if that's the one they had, you should have gotten that instead. :biggrin:

Also, great to see love for the Survivor, it's really good, and the production is awesome.

My favourite Survivor album, even more so than Vital Signs (which is also great). The great production certainly helps too.

Spun the Primal Fear twice now and it's brilliant.  The production also is stellar and Ralf's vocals are just stunning.  One Night in December is one of Karlsson's best, and Born With a Broken Heart is easily one of the best ballads he has come up with too.

I guess you were right about my opinion. :lol In future you should just buy every album I think is halfway decent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2014, 08:49:33 PM
It should be stated that I have not heard a single Firehouse song.  I saw the album for $12 and knew the name so I took a punt.  They had another one of their albums, I think it may have been the follow up, but decided to start with the one.

I think Hold Your Fire is the better album, so if that's the one they had, you should have gotten that instead. :biggrin:

Also, great to see love for the Survivor, it's really good, and the production is awesome.

My favourite Survivor album, even more so than Vital Signs (which is also great). The great production certainly helps too.

Spun the Primal Fear twice now and it's brilliant.  The production also is stellar and Ralf's vocals are just stunning.  One Night in December is one of Karlsson's best, and Born With a Broken Heart is easily one of the best ballads he has come up with too.

I guess you were right about my opinion. :lol In future you should just buy every album I think is halfway decent.

I just checked the album cover for Hold Your Fire and that was the other album they had in stock.  :lol  Oh well, if I like the debut, I'll get that next time.

I still need to get a physical copy of Vital Signs.  I think I like this one a lot more though.

And yes, every album in this thread that you think is somewhat alright, I'm rushing out and buying it on the spot.  :rollin
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2014, 03:42:09 AM
Randy Black drum tracking for Rebel Faction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_tV0BA9Kbgg

The more I listen to this album, the more fucking ridiculous it is, amazing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 10, 2014, 06:32:50 AM
This is moving up my list of PF releases fast, big time.  Alive and on Fire is a major ass kicking tune.  All of them are awesome actually; One Night in December is unbelievable.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2014, 02:41:46 PM
This is moving up my list of PF releases fast, big time.  Alive and on Fire is a major ass kicking tune.  All of them are awesome actually; One Night in December is unbelievable.

I'm listening to that song right now, it's seriously one of the greatest songs I've heard in a long time.  The only thing I question is the reprise of the When Death Comes Knocking riff in the middle, but I think it may be intentional.

Magnus and Mat have really hit a home run here.  Magnus was finding his feet with the last two, but it seems he's really zoned in on the PF sound with still adding his touch.  He is a worldclass songwriter and player.  This album is insane.

The title track is another favourite, it rips.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 10, 2014, 02:43:34 PM
Probably not getting the Primal Fear until the weekend. You guys have me stoked for it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2014, 02:45:09 PM
Probably not getting the Primal Fear until the weekend. You guys have me stoked for it.

I don't think there's any chance that you will be disappointed with this.  In fact, this album is more than what anyone can ask for and should fully satisfy every PF fan.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 10, 2014, 03:22:12 PM
Probably not getting the Primal Fear until the weekend. You guys have me stoked for it.

I don't think there's any chance that you will be disappointed with this.  In fact, this album is more than what anyone can ask for and should fully satisfy every PF fan.
I haven't sampled any of it, just going by what you are saying.

I DID sample some of the  new Silent Force, and I'm a little iffy.  Their other stuff realy doesn't stand out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 10, 2014, 04:58:41 PM
Probably not getting the Primal Fear until the weekend. You guys have me stoked for it.

I don't think there's any chance that you will be disappointed with this.  In fact, this album is more than what anyone can ask for and should fully satisfy every PF fan.
I haven't sampled any of it, just going by what you are saying.

I DID sample some of the  new Silent Force, and I'm a little iffy.  Their other stuff realy doesn't stand out.

That SF album is killer. Give it a full chance before writing it off, TAC.  I've only spun the Delivering the Black once while working, so I wasn't able to fully immerse myself in it.  Think I might have to do that tonight if I can.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 10, 2014, 05:05:40 PM
I need to give that Silent Force a better chance but , like TAC, my initial thoughts of the first couple of songs I heard were a bit "meh!"      I think that likely has a bit to do with me already owning what must be 15-20 albums with Bormann singing in a similar (and likely better) vein.  I can certainly understand the change of style upsetting long time SF fans.

I'm not going to judge of a couple of songs though.........so I'll leave a verdict til  after a proper listen.  Expectations are low so hopefully I'll be surprised.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 10, 2014, 05:28:12 PM
I need to give that Silent Force a better chance but , like TAC, my initial thoughts of the first couple of songs I heard were a bit "meh!"      I think that likely has a bit to do with me already owning what must be 15-20 albums with Bormann singing in a similar (and likely better) vein.  I can certainly understand the change of style upsetting long time SF fans.

I'm not going to judge of a couple of songs though.........so I'll leave a verdict til  after a proper listen.  Expectations are low so hopefully I'll be surprised.

Fair enough... and Bormann is still new enough to my ears that it's a great listen for that alone.  Although, I do really enjoy the guitar tones/riffs/melodies too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2014, 06:52:26 PM
I had concerns about the Silent Force too going into it, but it turned out absolutely amazing.  Stunning album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 10, 2014, 08:50:04 PM
One of the new songs from the upcoming Pretty Maids compilation - solid enough , great intro  but sounds like a Motherland leftover to me.  Compressed to hell as usual....sounds like the Within Temptation blur of guitar/bass/keys.....that's one area where (like them or not) Primal Fear owns everyone at the moment (production)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JjuigyXRn3Q
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2014, 10:05:05 PM
Will check this tonight after work and gym.

You are right Brent, the production on Delivering the Black is just amazing.  The performances too are just so solid.  This possibly could be the best Ralf has ever sounded.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 10, 2014, 10:30:24 PM
Agreed. Ralf treats this album like its his bitch. In a good way.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2014, 10:35:35 PM
Agreed. Ralf treats this album like its his bitch. In a good way.

 :rollin  That's an awesome description.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 10, 2014, 10:55:17 PM
One of the new songs from the upcoming Pretty Maids compilation - solid enough , great intro  but sounds like a Motherland leftover to me.  Compressed to hell as usual....sounds like the Within Temptation blur of guitar/bass/keys.....that's one area where (like them or not) Primal Fear owns everyone at the moment (production)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JjuigyXRn3Q

I dug it. You certainly couldn't tell there were any keyboards except the pre-chorus.  Rhythm section kinda blended together.  Still was pretty good, and will definitely keep me interested for the full release.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2014, 03:50:30 AM
One of the new songs from the upcoming Pretty Maids compilation - solid enough , great intro  but sounds like a Motherland leftover to me.  Compressed to hell as usual....sounds like the Within Temptation blur of guitar/bass/keys.....that's one area where (like them or not) Primal Fear owns everyone at the moment (production)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JjuigyXRn3Q

Fuck yeah, this is great.  I'm just loving this band at the moment, their sound is amazing.  Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2014, 04:03:20 AM
New Freedom Call video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a8N58--6blA

Wow, this is awful.  Sounds like a really bad Gamma Ray ripoff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 11, 2014, 04:17:47 AM
Haha - that is shiteful.   They've always been a cheese heart attack but that's off the scale and without the music to make it more palatable.    I have one CD of theirs (Eternity) which is decent but from memory a lot of their other albums are pretty bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2014, 04:26:03 AM
For something more promising.  Vanishing Point - Distant is the Sun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsMdsla0ju8

This is more like it, killer song, looking forward to this.   :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 11, 2014, 04:41:09 AM
I like the sound of that too - the key for me to enjoy an album in this style is for there to be plenty of variety.  If every song sounds like a variation of this one then it'll get tired pretty quick , but I have this down as a buy anyway. Fingers crossed.

I'll get some of their old stuff on rotation tomorrow to refresh the memory.....haven't played it in yonks..
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2014, 04:45:58 AM
the key for me to enjoy an album in this style is for there to be plenty of variety.  If every song sounds like a variation of this one then it'll get tired pretty quick , but I have this down as a buy anyway. Fingers crossed.

Vanishing Point have been pretty 'consistent' with the last two albums in terms of songwriting styles.  The last one didn't do too much for on a whole but Embrace is classic.  Every song does have a similar feel, but they are also different from each other enough to enjoy the whole album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 11, 2014, 08:39:00 AM
That Freedom Call was pretty laughable, made even worse with the horrible video. They haven't done anything good since Eternity, though Legend of the Shadowking is decent. Mill still stand by Crystal Empire as part of my Top 50 though ... Love that album.

Vanishing Point was solid, as they usually are.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2014, 05:11:38 PM
Vanishing Point was solid, as they usually are.

Yeah, I'm pretty pumped for this one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 11, 2014, 06:45:06 PM
Long form preview of new KXM album (George Lynch,Dug Pinnick, Ray Luzier)

Can't say I hear much that's going to grab me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zq3KpcK_lE&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 11, 2014, 06:49:14 PM
I'll check that out later, but there wasn't much that grabbed me in the first trailer too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 11, 2014, 11:44:49 PM
A couple of other new releases I'll be taking an interest in :

- new Dynazty due Feb 28

- new Seb Bach due (tentatively) in March with a line up including Steven Stevens and John 5 on guitar and Bobby Jarzombek on drums
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2014, 12:58:26 AM
A couple of other new releases I'll be taking an interest in :

- new Dynazty due Feb 28

- new Seb Bach due (tentatively) in March with a line up including Steven Stevens and John 5 on guitar and Bobby Jarzombek on drums

Looking forward to the Dynazty. The last one was awesome and I play it regularly. High hopes.
Steve Stevens is usually worth a look but I'm no big fan of  Bach- not since the first Skid Row anyway, and half of the second.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2014, 01:01:04 AM
I pretty much agree with you re Bach ...........listened to Angel Down the other day and it's crap.   I'm hearing this might be his best since Skid Row so we'll see.    He did sing well on Frameshift if you like the style.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 12, 2014, 01:52:01 AM
I pretty much agree with you re Bach ...........listened to Angel Down the other day and it's crap.   I'm hearing this might be his best since Skid Row so we'll see.    He did sing well on Frameshift if you like the style.

I haven't been a fan of any of his solo stuff either, including Angel Down (although I actually like the Aerosmith cover despite not being an Aerosmith fan). Frameshift wasn't my style either.
If this album is the same style, I'll give it a miss. It really wouldn't take much to be his best since Skid Row imo, so we'll see.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 12, 2014, 02:06:59 AM
Loved, LOVED Bach on Frameshift. Ended up being #4 on my second Top 50 list.  Was kinda meh on his solo stuff, but still a fan of him vocally.  Didn't know he was working on new shit.  Will definitely check it out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2014, 04:02:13 AM
Angel Down had some good songs but had some shit too.  Disappointing considering the amazing lineup.  The last one was rubbish.  I'll give the new one a chance mainly from a guitarists point of view.  Stevens is good and I like John 5.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2014, 04:18:51 AM
Just listened to that Firehouse album, and it didn't really do anything for me to be honest.  There were a couple of cool rocking songs, but nothing more to make me want to check out any of their other work.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 12, 2014, 07:17:20 AM
My favorites from that disc are "all she wrote" and " overnight sensation". Give the disc one more chance, maybe it will click.

I thought Angel Down was a very solid release, but kicking and screaming was terrible. Combined that with his voice sounded very poor recently, I have no hopes for this release. Will check out samples though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2014, 03:58:51 AM
My favorites from that disc are "all she wrote" and " overnight sensation". Give the disc one more chance, maybe it will click.

I thought Angel Down was a very solid release, but kicking and screaming was terrible. Combined that with his voice sounded very poor recently, I have no hopes for this release. Will check out samples though.

Those were the exact two songs that stood out to me.  I guess cause they are more metal where the rest are more glam.

Yeah, Seb sounded terrible on Kicking and Screaming.  It didn't even sound like him really.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 13, 2014, 04:06:20 AM
It sounds like regular modern Bach to me on Kicking and Screaming, the problem was more the generic crappy early 2000's metal songwriting.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 13, 2014, 04:09:48 AM
Not sure if it's been posted yet, but a teaser for new Winger-

https://soundcloud.com/officialwinger/rat-race-teaser

Not a lot to judge, but sounds pretty rockin' to me. :tup Can't really say more until there's a whole song up.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2014, 04:17:00 AM
Updates;

Winger - 30 second sample of new song Rat Race. 

https://soundcloud.com/officialwinger/rat-race-teaser

Sounding good.


Three Lions EPK with Vinny Burnes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39IE3p0BTfA

Great to see Vinny back and this sound fucking excellent.


Magnum - Too many Clowns new song snippet;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FACTwimWKM

Don't know what to think of this.  Pretty much sounds like Rock and Roll from Zeppelin, and Catley sounds like he's really struggling.


New HEAT song. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f6D5qP9WAc

This is shit, especially compared to the quality of the last album.


EDIT: Ninja'd by Blob!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 13, 2014, 04:23:46 AM
You still got in first on the rest. :biggrin:

I'm surprised you didn't hate the Winger sample, given that I liked it. :P Seems to be the way it goes in this thread!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 13, 2014, 04:25:26 AM
Hard to tell with the Winger but sounds very much (sound wise) like Karma to me.  So I thought you wouldn't like it Blob   ;D

Magnum........not of a fan of much they've done since the 80's tbh

H.E.A.T...................I agree - the little I've heard sounds like a huge step backwards

Three Kings - definitely will check this one out.  Not sure about the vocals just yet but having been a fan of Ten from day one I'll always check out anything with Vinny and Greg.  Nothing in that video turned me off - put it that way.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2014, 04:25:58 AM
You still got in first on the rest. :biggrin:

I'm surprised you didn't hate the Winger sample, given that I liked it. :P Seems to be the way it goes in this thread!

No, no, you like it, therefore it must be one of the greatest songs ever.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 13, 2014, 04:28:09 AM
Hard to tell with the Winger but sounds very much (sound wise) like Karma to me.  So I thought you wouldn't like it Blob   ;D

It sounds to me a lot more like the rock track I love, rather than the rest of the metal metal stuff I don't like though. Hopefully the whole album is more like this sample!

And yeah, that Magnum clip had Rock n Roll written all over it, but with shitty modern metal production, and worn out vocals.

The HEAT song was..... meh.

You still got in first on the rest. :biggrin:

I'm surprised you didn't hate the Winger sample, given that I liked it. :P Seems to be the way it goes in this thread!

No, no, you like it, therefore it must be one of the greatest songs ever.  :lol

Ah ok, I'm still getting a handle on how this whole theory works it seems. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2014, 04:32:07 AM
Something like this;

Blob despises it = wolfking quite enjoys it
Blob thinks it 'meh' = wolfking likes it quite a lot
Blob doesn't mind it = wolfking fucking loves it
Blob likes it = wolfking's mind is blown
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 13, 2014, 04:35:10 AM
So Stan Bush must be your all time favourite artist Kade.  :o
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2014, 04:36:27 AM
So Stan Bush must be your all time favourite artist Kade.  :o

errr.....way to ruin my theory Brent.  I guess the theory could work in reverse too.  :hat
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 13, 2014, 04:40:01 AM
Something like this;

Blob despises it = wolfking quite enjoys it
Blob thinks it 'meh' = wolfking likes it quite a lot
Blob doesn't mind it = wolfking fucking loves it
Blob likes it = wolfking's mind is blown

So basically I can summarize it as - wolfking is musically easy. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2014, 04:43:00 AM
Well.....yeah, probably.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on February 13, 2014, 10:14:43 AM
Something like this;

Blob despises it = wolfking quite enjoys it
Blob thinks it 'meh' = wolfking likes it quite a lot
Blob doesn't mind it = wolfking fucking loves it
Blob likes it = wolfking's mind is blown

So basically I can summarize it as - wolfking is musically easy. :neverusethis:

Which makes you pretty damned hard, if not impossible  :xbones
Magnum used to love them in the 1980's, haven't/won't buy anything from them anymore, their best days are long gone.
But that riff, basic blues/boogie. Bob's voice sounds trally gruff, but perhaps on purpose?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Delirious Nomad on February 13, 2014, 01:01:54 PM
Uh, oh...new Winger...if it turns out as good as Karma (the first two songs alone destroy), we'll have another winner.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2014, 03:53:00 PM
Something like this;

Blob despises it = wolfking quite enjoys it
Blob thinks it 'meh' = wolfking likes it quite a lot
Blob doesn't mind it = wolfking fucking loves it
Blob likes it = wolfking's mind is blown

So basically I can summarize it as - wolfking is musically easy. :neverusethis:

Which makes you pretty damned hard, if not impossible  :xbones
Magnum used to love them in the 1980's, haven't/won't buy anything from them anymore, their best days are long gone.
But that riff, basic blues/boogie. Bob's voice sounds trally gruff, but perhaps on purpose?

Yeah, I'm actually a little worried from that Magnum clip.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 13, 2014, 04:24:37 PM
I came across this little gem that I had and forgot about for years.  I just uploaded it on my I-Pod.  A one off album from ex Megadeath guitarist Chris Poland.  The band is Damn The Machine.  Here is the full album Youtube link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY45lLF51Wk
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
I came across this little gem that I had and forgot about for years.  I just uploaded it on my I-Pod.  A one off album from ex Megadeath guitarist Chris Poland.  The band is Damn The Machine.  Here is the full album Youtube link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY45lLF51Wk

I just had a listen to the first song, and it's not bad at all.  Love Poland.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 13, 2014, 07:58:10 PM
Something like this;

Blob despises it = wolfking quite enjoys it
Blob thinks it 'meh' = wolfking likes it quite a lot
Blob doesn't mind it = wolfking fucking loves it
Blob likes it = wolfking's mind is blown

So basically I can summarize it as - wolfking is musically easy. :neverusethis:

Which makes you pretty damned hard, if not impossible  :xbones

I prefer the term "musical prude". :lol

Uh, oh...new Winger...if it turns out as good as Karma (the first two songs alone destroy), we'll have another winner.

Finally someone else who appreciates the awesomeness of those first two tracks. :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2014, 08:55:32 PM
I do enjoy the first two songs, but from a band like Winger, they can do a lot more.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 13, 2014, 08:57:32 PM
I'd easily put the first track as one of their top 3 or 5 songs. I don't care much for most of what they've done after the first album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Delirious Nomad on February 13, 2014, 10:50:39 PM
Ouch. That hurts. Rainbow In The Rose was a milestone for me and 4 or 5 tracks from the awesome Pull album (e.g Blind Revolution Mad, Like A Ritual, Spell I'm Under...) made me go berserk. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 13, 2014, 10:54:34 PM
Ouch. That hurts. Rainbow In The Rose was a milestone for me and 4 or 5 tracks from the awesome Pull album (e.g Blind Revolution Mad, Like A Ritual, Spell I'm Under...) made me go berserk.

Put 100 people who still give a shit about Winger in a room and I reckon 80-85 would name Pull as their favourite Winger album.  So don't mind Blob - he's just ah.............Blob  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 13, 2014, 10:58:10 PM
I'M STILL ENTITLED TO MY OPINION DAMMIT! :getoffmylawn:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 13, 2014, 10:59:37 PM
What did you say?   I don't wear ear plugs at gigs  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 13, 2014, 11:00:49 PM
That would explain why your ears hear music so incorrectly now. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 13, 2014, 11:01:21 PM
Haha - walked into that one  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 14, 2014, 04:20:28 AM
Pull is indeed the best Winger album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 14, 2014, 04:31:27 AM
The Magnum may be better than that sample gives off;

https://www.metal-temple.com/site/catalogues/entry/reviews/cd_3/m_2/magnum-escape-from.htm
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2014, 06:18:19 PM
New House of Lords - Into Battle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMH8Woy4AqI&feature=youtu.be


I'm actually surprised how much I like it - I say that because it's just more of the same in terms of sound/structure.  It seems we'll never see a repeat (from almost anyone in the melodic rock space) of the creative songwriting on albums like Demons Down , but for what it is I think it's pretty catchy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 14, 2014, 06:20:48 PM
Pull is indeed the best Winger album.

I really love IV.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2014, 06:22:58 PM
I listened to IV the other day and loved Four Leaf Clover, Your Great Escape and (less so) Short Flight To Mexico but the rest was a bit meh!   Worth having for those tracks though for sure.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 14, 2014, 06:33:37 PM
I saw them at an old club in Boston called The Channel. (TAC will know this old place)  It was the first album and they killed. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2014, 06:37:41 PM
I can imagine ....................despite their public image  they really are/were a cut above their peers as musicians.  Even today Kip puts on a great acoustic solo show.    I didn't bother to go and see them when they toured Australia a few years back and I'm pretty pissed at myself that I didn't make the effort.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 14, 2014, 06:42:17 PM
They came out at a time when people were looking for an alternative to Hair metal.  Winger were a huge cut above all hair bands (even though I like hair bands) but that Grunge explosion killed any momentum they had.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2014, 06:45:29 PM
yep - although the scene was starting to get clogged with wannabes just before grunge hit there are so many lost/forgotten gems from old and new bands that came out around 1991-1992 just as the whole thing imploded .  So many of my favourite albums are from those few years.  The songwriting, production, everything is so much better than the vast majority of what gets released now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 14, 2014, 06:47:45 PM
I just played an album that most wouldn't listen to here but I love The Outfield and my favorite album is Bangin'.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 14, 2014, 07:00:18 PM
I just played an album that most wouldn't listen to here but I love The Outfield and my favorite album is Bangin'.

I dig The Outfield.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on February 14, 2014, 07:07:00 PM
Though I do like Pull, it's the only Winger CD in my collection.
I much prefer the Kip Winger solo stuff, far better in every aspect.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: rickhawk80 on February 14, 2014, 07:28:16 PM
I just played an album that most wouldn't listen to here but I love The Outfield and my favorite album is Bangin'.

I dig The Outfield.
The Outfield put out some good rock back in the 80s.  Nothing but love here!   :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 14, 2014, 09:09:36 PM
Sweet!  I love that tinny Fender Tele sound and their harmonies.

I followed up Bangin' with  Stone Fury's  Burn Like A Star.  Great album.  TAC approved!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 14, 2014, 10:25:20 PM
Sweet!  I love that tinny Fender Tele sound and their harmonies.

I followed up Bangin' with  Stone Fury's  Burn Like A Star.  Great album.  TAC approved!

I posted the Stone Fury in the album thread earlier today - two mentions in a day for an album I've rarely seen mentioned.  Very Zeppy vocals (as usual from Lenny) over melodic rock and good album - better than most of what he did with Kingdom Come.  Can't say I've heard much from The Outfield that did anything for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 14, 2014, 10:56:23 PM
New House of Lords - Into Battle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMH8Woy4AqI&feature=youtu.be


I'm actually surprised how much I like it - I say that because it's just more of the same in terms of sound/structure.  It seems we'll never see a repeat (from almost anyone in the melodic rock space) of the creative songwriting on albums like Demons Down , but for what it is I think it's pretty catchy.

I agree to some extent.  This certainly keeps me interested for the whole album, that's for sure.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 15, 2014, 03:57:48 AM
Sweet!  I love that tinny Fender Tele sound and their harmonies.

I followed up Bangin' with  Stone Fury's  Burn Like A Star.  Great album.  TAC approved!

I posted the Stone Fury in the album thread earlier today - two mentions in a day for an album I've rarely seen mentioned.  Very Zeppy vocals (as usual from Lenny) over melodic rock and good album - better than most of what he did with Kingdom Come.  Can't say I've heard much from The Outfield that did anything for me.

I missed that post.  How weird that I played it yesterday! :metal  I only had the first Kingdom Come album and saw them on the Monsters Of Rock tour (Another TAC approved show).  I really Dug Lenny's voice.

Did you know the guitarist from Stone Fury went on to play with Billy Sherwood of Yes fame in a band called World Trade?  I love the 2 disks I have of them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2014, 04:04:56 AM
I'm a huge fan of Bruce Gowdy - he's been everywhere man , including  stints with The Doobie Bros , Bobby Kimball, Air Supply etc....    I know and own World Trade but in terms of his overall output he's more important to me as a key member of Unruly Child - one of my all time faves.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 15, 2014, 04:06:55 AM
I saw him with the Dobbies live.  I never heard Unruly Child so now you are making me spend money. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: rickhawk80 on February 15, 2014, 06:22:01 AM
Unruly Child is fantastic. :clap: Love the "Worlds Collide" album.  They're fronted by Marcie Free (formerly Mark Free of King Kobra). 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5SKtuuKAcQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5SKtuuKAcQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBt8SEsJEt8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBt8SEsJEt8)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 15, 2014, 07:48:58 AM
Holy crap I listened to a few tunes and it's awesome!!  This is an auto buy!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 15, 2014, 08:19:37 AM
Stone Fury- TAC approved.
The Outfield- TAC not approved.  :D

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 15, 2014, 08:20:57 AM
Stone Fury- TAC approved.
The Outfield- TAC not approved.  :D

 :lol

I knew that all ready!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2014, 02:51:37 AM
Unruly Child is fantastic. :clap: Love the "Worlds Collide" album.  They're fronted by Marcie Free (formerly Mark Free of King Kobra). 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5SKtuuKAcQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5SKtuuKAcQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBt8SEsJEt8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBt8SEsJEt8)

This is a great album indeed.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2014, 02:54:51 AM
New House of Lords - Into Battle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMH8Woy4AqI&feature=youtu.be


I'm actually surprised how much I like it - I say that because it's just more of the same in terms of sound/structure.  It seems we'll never see a repeat (from almost anyone in the melodic rock space) of the creative songwriting on albums like Demons Down , but for what it is I think it's pretty catchy.

I agree to some extent.  This certainly keeps me interested for the whole album, that's for sure.

This is fucking powerful, I love it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2014, 11:05:47 AM
New House of Lords - Into Battle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMH8Woy4AqI&feature=youtu.be


I'm actually surprised how much I like it - I say that because it's just more of the same in terms of sound/structure.  It seems we'll never see a repeat (from almost anyone in the melodic rock space) of the creative songwriting on albums like Demons Down , but for what it is I think it's pretty catchy.

I agree to some extent.  This certainly keeps me interested for the whole album, that's for sure.

This is fucking powerful, I love it.

Chorus is a bit shit but the rest is fine.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2014, 12:48:50 PM
Going back to the new Primal Fear for a second, I have to say that this is now officially my favorite PF disc.  I get the new car aspect, but I can say this with confidence.  I knew the latest Saxon was my favorite of theirs after a couple of listens and I knew the new DT would be my second behind I & W after a couple of listens. 

This PF is awesome.  Born with a Broken Heart is the best ballad they've done without question.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 16, 2014, 02:30:26 PM
Just bought the PF this afternoon. Looking forward to digging in.
I'm holding off on the Silent Force for now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2014, 07:19:22 PM
Going back to the new Primal Fear for a second, I have to say that this is now officially my favorite PF disc.  I get the new car aspect, but I can say this with confidence.  I knew the latest Saxon was my favorite of theirs after a couple of listens and I knew the new DT would be my second behind I & W after a couple of listens. 

This PF is awesome.  Born with a Broken Heart is the best ballad they've done without question.

It's definitely climbing up my ranks too.  Just so fucking solid.  Broken Heart is indeed a highlight, but I think One Night in December could be the best song PF have ever done.


I'm holding off on the Silent Force for now.

Don't.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 16, 2014, 07:38:19 PM
Ok...................Ok.........................just bought the Silent Force  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2014, 07:40:19 PM
Yeah One Night in December is one of the coolest songs I've ever heard
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2014, 08:42:55 PM
Ok...................Ok.........................just bought the Silent Force  ;D

Good!


Yeah One Night in December is one of the coolest songs I've ever heard

Totally.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 17, 2014, 03:21:49 AM
Ok...................Ok.........................just bought the Silent Force  ;D

you won't regret it  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2014, 04:06:35 AM
Ok...................Ok.........................just bought the Silent Force  ;D

you won't regret it  :biggrin:

Yeah, I'm listening to it right now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2014, 04:17:39 AM
I know there's not many fans on here and it probably doesn't belong here but;

German power metallers GAMMA RAY will release their eleventh studio album, "Empire Of The Undead", on CD, CD/DVD digipack, LP and digitally via earMusic on March 28.

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/gammarayempire1.jpg)

01. Avalon
02. Hellbent
03. Pale Rider
04. Born To Fly
05. Master Of Confusion
06. Empire Of The Undead
07. Time For Deliverance
08. Demonseed
09. Seven
10. I Will Return
11. Built A World (European bonus track)
12. Avalon (live from the final studio sessions)
13. The Spirit (live from the final studio sessions 1)
14. Empire Of The Undead (live from the final studio sessions 1)

These song titles look really promising.  I'm looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 17, 2014, 05:17:03 AM
Definitely looking forward to the Gamma Ray.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2014, 05:23:56 AM
Definitely looking forward to the Gamma Ray.

Yeah man.  Master of Confusion was pretty safe, but Empire of the Undead was one of the fastest and coolest things they have done for a while.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 17, 2014, 02:19:10 PM
New one from Dynazty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hjJJGsehfg&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D2hjJJGsehfg&app=desktop

Oh yes indeedy.
Their last album is a big fave of mine and they've heavied things up without losing the melody. I love this guy's voice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2014, 02:44:30 PM
New one from Dynazty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hjJJGsehfg&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D2hjJJGsehfg&app=desktop

Oh yes indeedy.
Their last album is a big fave of mine and they've heavied things up without losing the melody. I love this guy's voice.

Wow, this is fabulous.  I have never heard these guys before so this is an unexpected surprise.  Do they have many albums?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2014, 02:57:54 PM
Hmmm....I just checked out a few other songs from Dynazty, and they didn't do too much for me to be honest.  This new song is way more my style.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 17, 2014, 03:03:16 PM
New one from Dynazty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hjJJGsehfg&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D2hjJJGsehfg&app=desktop

Oh yes indeedy.
Their last album is a big fave of mine and they've heavied things up without losing the melody. I love this guy's voice.

Wow, this is fabulous.  I have never heard these guys before so this is an unexpected surprise.  Do they have many albums?

Three or so and the new one due soon I think. I've only heard the last one Sultans of Sin and it's excellent, , though produced as more hard rock than the metal sound of this video. One of my top 10 post 2000 albums I would guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLTzWKUIgmo

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2014, 03:32:00 PM
New one from Dynazty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hjJJGsehfg&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D2hjJJGsehfg&app=desktop

Oh yes indeedy.
Their last album is a big fave of mine and they've heavied things up without losing the melody. I love this guy's voice.

Wow, this is fabulous.  I have never heard these guys before so this is an unexpected surprise.  Do they have many albums?

Three or so and the new one due soon I think. I've only heard the last one Sultans of Sin and it's excellent, , though produced as more hard rock than the metal sound of this video. One of my top 10 post 2000 albums I would guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLTzWKUIgmo

That song was a lot better than the other couple I just checked.  I may have to hear the whole thing.  That new song is killer though, that's an instant purchase.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2014, 05:10:04 PM
I've just had a look at my ratings and the last album was certainly the best of the first three -  the first two contained some pretty average songs.

So , like Paul, I have focused on the Sultans of Sin album.   I've never felt they had the greatest songs of all time but the singer...............man, he's like a modern day Seb Bach in his prime and could really be anything  , including prog metal if he went that way at some point.

The big reservation I have , as with many recent releases, is what I call the "wall of mud" guitar sound which really ruins it a bit for me......and also increases the likelihood of everything on an album sounding the same.   Sometimes (like on Sultans of Sin) there are performances that can make me forget it for a while but if it becomes a habit across multiple albums -like Within Temptation and countless others - then it's often enough to just make me pull the plug.

This new song sounds great - I just hope the rest doesn't sound exactly the same.

My "go to" song for them when I want to hear his magnificent voice is

Falling  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pGDE4AfxeM#t=600
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 17, 2014, 06:44:03 PM
New one from Dynazty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hjJJGsehfg&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D2hjJJGsehfg&app=desktop

Oh yes indeedy.
Their last album is a big fave of mine and they've heavied things up without losing the melody. I love this guy's voice.

It actually had me up until the power metal chorus. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2014, 09:46:49 PM
No time to listen/comment right now but here are full list of samples from Pretty Maids




https://www.amazon.de/Louder-Than-Ever-Pretty-Maids/dp/B00IDARONU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1392471701&sr=8-2&keywords=Pretty+maids+louder


BTW I just heard a full sample track from the new Seb Bach and , while it's better than a lot of his solo stuff, it was a very "modern rock" sound and not as good as I would've hoped.  The rest would want to be better for me to get interested.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2014, 03:27:04 AM
(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/sebastianbachgiveemhellcover.jpg)

01. Hell Inside My Head
02. Harmony
03. All My Friends Are Dead
04. Temptation
05. Push Away
06. Dominator
07. Had Enough
08. Gun To A Knife Fight
09. Rock N Roll Is A Vicious Game
10. Taking Back Tomorrow
11. Disengaged
12. Forget You
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2014, 03:43:11 AM
No time to listen/comment right now but here are full list of samples from Pretty Maids

https://www.amazon.de/Louder-Than-Ever-Pretty-Maids/dp/B00IDARONU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1392471701&sr=8-2&keywords=Pretty+maids+louder

This sounds really sweet!


Iron Savior trailer;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie2ZyIvs7JI

This sounds really sick too.  So much great music coming out!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 18, 2014, 03:20:33 PM
Re the Rage of Angels Kade (as mentioned in album thread) - I wouldn't fall over yourself to check it out or buy it.  I think it was over hyped and , like many of these projects with big names all over them , the songs don't do them justice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2014, 04:06:05 PM
Re the Rage of Angels Kade (as mentioned in album thread) - I wouldn't fall over yourself to check it out or buy it.  I think it was over hyped and , like many of these projects with big names all over them , the songs don't do them justice.

I'll buy a cheap digital version of the album.  Like I did with the piece of shit Royal Hunt album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on February 18, 2014, 05:42:10 PM
Have a bit to catch up on here.

Re: Primal Fear - I have to say, this is probably the first time that I have seen something talked about quite a bit and was disappointed by it. I don't know, I guess I am not a power metal type guy. It had one or two decent songs, but nothing that was going to make me listen to it again. Oh well.

Re: The new H.E.A.T song - Firstly, I have to say that I quite liked their last album. One of my favorite melodic rock albums in recent years. And actually, I enjoyed this song as well, but I wish it were by someone else. It's fine as a standard rock song, but I was expecting something different from them.

Re: The new Sebastian Bach song - Enjoyed it, not it wasn't amazing or anything. Pretty typical of what I have been expecting from his recent solo releases. Wish I could hear a high quality version, but I think that this album will be better than the last one. I find that his solo albums are pretty hit and miss, some good songs, some not so good. The collaborations with Steve Stevens will make me listen to this one for sure.

I'll buy a cheap digital version of the album.  Like I did with the piece of shit Royal Hunt album.

Are you referring to the latest one? I haven't gotten around to listening to it yet actually and was interested in how it was. I though that Show Me How To Live was solid, if short. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 18, 2014, 05:55:04 PM
I agree with almost everything you said......................except that I often dislike things that everyone else raves over  ;D

When it comes to "power metal"  ,or even prog metal,  I need plenty going on in terms of melody/rhythm ideas to maintain my interest.  Once it becomes all samey, musicianship without songs or some sort of double kick drum endurance race I lose interest very quickly.  I really liked the single from Primal Fear but I'll probably just keep coming back to that one track as I get everything that I need from that and , to my ear, the other tracks don't offer a great deal more.  The last Saxon album was similar - I bought it on the strength of the monstrous title track and thought the rest was average.

The HEAT song is decent but not in the same league as anything off their last album which I agree was very good.

Seb bach................again I agree it's barely okay and I'm interested in what Steve Stevens can bring to the party.  These frontmen often aren't all that much chop when they lose their main songwriting guy - in fact none of them have done much I like since Slave To The Grind.   A case of greater than the sum of the parts , as are many great bands.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 18, 2014, 06:20:36 PM
Just listened to the Sebastian Bach song (or at least part of it). Same old generic metal shit. Pass.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 18, 2014, 06:24:32 PM
Just listened to the Sebastian Bach song (or at least part of it). Same old generic metal shit. Pass.

Yep..............hoping the rest of the album is better but haven't got high hopes.  It's a shame he hasn't hooked up with some decent writers/collaborators since Skid Row .  He's already past his vocal peak and we really haven't had anywhere near the amount of great material he was capable of producing.  Oh well...............he's not Robinson Crusoe there.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on February 18, 2014, 06:31:26 PM
Text

Yep, pretty much agree. My favorite Sebastian Bach song from his solo career was written by...Desmond Child.

I have honestly no idea what Skid Row did after Slave to the Grind. Never had any interest to check it out. Slave remains one of my favorite metal albums of all time though. Something about it just resonates with me.

Assuming you are a VH fan here (this may be slightly OT), what do you think of DLR's solo material? I have really been getting into A Lil' Ain't Enough as of late. I think the strongest part of that album is actually DLR's lyrics, he really did well with that one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 18, 2014, 06:34:24 PM
Text

Yep, pretty much agree. My favorite Sebastian Bach song from his solo career was written by...Desmond Child.

I have honestly no idea what Skid Row did after Slave to the Grind. Never had any interest to check it out. Slave remains one of my favorite metal albums of all time though. Something about it just resonates with me.

Assuming you are a VH fan here (this may be slightly OT), what do you think of DLR's solo material? I have really been getting into A Lil' Ain't Enough as of late. I think the strongest part of that album is actually DLR's lyrics, he really did well with that one.

Hey man - you have taste  ;D

I was only thinking yesterday that A Little Ain't Enough is probably now my favourite Roth solo album.............and I'm a big (understatement) VH, Roth and (when on plant Earth)  Vai fan.

I think Roth is seriously under rated as a writer. He did great on ALAE and some of the stuff he wrote for A Different Kind of Truth is LOL hilarious and bloody clever
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 18, 2014, 06:35:07 PM
Assuming you are a VH fan here (this may be slightly OT), what do you think of DLR's solo material? I have really been getting into A Lil' Ain't Enough as of late. I think the strongest part of that album is actually DLR's lyrics, he really did well with that one.

That's my favourite DLR solo album. :tup Not really a fan of the Vai stuff, aside from a few of the more popular songs.
Your Filthy Little Mouth opens with two great rock tracks, but the rest is confused shite, but DLR Band is another solid rock album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on February 18, 2014, 06:39:22 PM
Nice! Besides the lyrics, I just love the diversity on that album. He tried some different things and I think it worked out well. Of course, the guitar and production work help elevate the album for me as well.

Yeah, the Vai stuff is so-so for me as well. I prefer Eat 'Em and Smile over Skyscraper by a mile.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 18, 2014, 06:44:15 PM
Sheehan has been quoted as saying that there are much rawer versions of the Skyscraper stuff that sound way better .   I've never rated either of those first two solo albums as high as most Roth fans but both have some standouts.

Re Your Filthy Little Mouth that has another of my favourite Roth lyrics in Lands Edge

Here's a word about my ex-girlfriend
Towards the end conflict off and on
And I told her one night, "Honey every time we fight
I'll write a verse to this song"

Well, things got bad and things got worse
Still I struggled on
So sit back and get all comfortable
'Cause this little tunes six fuckin' hours long   ;D



Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on February 18, 2014, 06:56:34 PM
That's good stuff. I'm going to have to re-listen to his later material now.

I always found Skyscraper too "thin" sounding for my tastes.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 18, 2014, 09:52:52 PM
A Little Ain't Enough is a brilliant album.  It has Jason Becker for crying out loud.  Eat 'em and Smile I enjoy a lot too.

Also FreezingPoint, yes I was referring to the latest Royal Hunt album, it's rubbish IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 19, 2014, 01:46:32 AM
I just listened to one song from that new Royal Hunt, and I couldn't even finish it.  Sounded very sub par.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on February 19, 2014, 01:55:20 AM
Yeah considering all the hype and joy of DC Cooper returning, it's just bog standard cookie cut Royal Hunt.
Sub par at that too. AA can write this stuff in his sleep.

But I am still going to see them in April, if only to see the mighty Vanishing Point opening for them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2014, 03:24:17 AM
Yeah considering all the hype and joy of DC Cooper returning, it's just bog standard cookie cut Royal Hunt.
Sub par at that too. AA can write this stuff in his sleep.

But I am still going to see them in April, if only to see the mighty Vanishing Point opening for them.

Would be pretty much worth it just for them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2014, 03:28:03 AM
I just listened to one song from that new Royal Hunt, and I couldn't even finish it.  Sounded very sub par.

As you all know, I'm pretty easy to please when it comes to most of this type of music, but this album is really really awful.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on February 19, 2014, 03:58:15 AM
Wolfking, some Asia to check out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRt6jGUMjw8
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2014, 04:12:13 AM
Wolfking, some Asia to check out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRt6jGUMjw8

Man, this is smooth, really nice and smooth.  I like this a lot actually.  Great AOR with a nice atmosphere and the vox remind me a bit of Bowie.

EDIT: just looking up Asia on wiki.  Didn't know Al Pitrelli played on a couple of albums, nice.

EDIT 2: And Guthrie Govan!  And Vinny Burnes, but he didn't play on any studio stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Delirious Nomad on February 19, 2014, 11:29:55 AM
I found all DLR releases highly entertaining. The heck, I love everything VH, even VHIII had some great moments.

What do you think of A Different Kind Of Truth ?

Because the opinion in my band was meh, while I thought Eddie schooled the rest of the guitar playing bunch once again. Not in terms of speed or virtuosity, but in growing and maintaining balls.
The only real flaw of ADKOT, in my ears, is the sound. Not the production, but the too hot mastering. Almost on Queensryche levels of hot mastering.

By the way VH is working on the follow up.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 19, 2014, 11:54:12 AM
I thought A Different Kind Of Truth was very good. To me, it takes a bit to get gping, but once you get past the first four songs or so, it's kick ass the rest of the way.

I remember looking at the title Honeybabysweetiedoll thinking WTF, but it is one of the most bad ass songs they've ever done.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 19, 2014, 12:17:08 PM
I thought it was very good as well.  I can't say I was too happy the first time I heard Tattoo, but that song ended up growing on me.  But I thought the rest of the disc was kick ass from the get go.

Interested to hear the followup; considering ADKOT was mostly older songs redone.  I'm assuming the followup will be all new material
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Delirious Nomad on February 19, 2014, 12:36:18 PM
As far as I know, only about half of the material had old roots and someone from the VH camp said there is still a lot more left in the archives. I don't care. Most songwriters do this. You have a great idea, but you can't turn it into a song until years later it somehow happens.

Agree on Honeybabysweetiedoll. Bordering on progressive metal. I was WTF, too, only for another reason.  :o :metal :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 19, 2014, 06:24:52 PM
The only real flaw of ADKOT, in my ears, is the sound. Not the production, but the too hot mastering. Almost on Queensryche levels of hot mastering.

That's my only real complaint too. The production and mixing in general are absolutely fantastic, but the mastering almost kills it. Way too loud. But Eddie and Alex almost always have a killer sound in the studio.

Definitely a great comeback album. :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2014, 06:53:42 PM
I was never a huge VH fan, but the album was pretty decent enough.  It had some good songs and the boys still have great chops.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on February 19, 2014, 08:08:14 PM
Also FreezingPoint, yes I was referring to the latest Royal Hunt album, it's rubbish IMO.

Thanks for letting me know. I will probably listen to it eventually, at least give it one chance.

The only real flaw of ADKOT, in my ears, is the sound. Not the production, but the too hot mastering. Almost on Queensryche levels of hot mastering.

That's my only real complaint too. The production and mixing in general are absolutely fantastic, but the mastering almost kills it. Way too loud. But Eddie and Alex almost always have a killer sound in the studio.

Definitely a great comeback album. :tup

Yep. I can tolerate ADKOT though, but I have a real hard time listening to even a full Queensryche song off their latest.

Hope that the next VH is as strong in terms of mixing and production. I was kind of surprised at the amount of wah Eddie used on the album, but it didn't bother me any.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2014, 08:12:34 PM
I hope you're referring to Geoff Tate's version of Queensryche.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on February 19, 2014, 10:00:36 PM
No, the S/T. I was referring to the hot mastering. The songs and performances are good, but I find it very trying on the ears to listen to. I even tried messing with the files myself to improve them but I couldn't get any decent results that I was happy with. A shame because that's their best material since Promised Land IMO.

Geoff Tate's "Queensryche" is pretty much an abomination, especially live. And let's not even mention those re-records. Ouch.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jammindude on February 19, 2014, 10:08:33 PM
No, the S/T. I was referring to the hot mastering. The songs and performances are good, but I find it very trying on the ears to listen to. I even tried messing with the files myself to improve them but I couldn't get any decent results that I was happy with. A shame because that's their best material since Promised Land IMO.

Geoff Tate's "Queensryche" is pretty much an abomination, especially live. And let's not even mention those re-records. Ouch.

All of this...

The S/T is such a great album...but so hard to listen to.    I would say it is every bit as bad as Vapor Trails and Death Magnetic on the mastering side of things.   Among the worst I've ever heard. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 20, 2014, 04:18:05 AM
No, the S/T. I was referring to the hot mastering. The songs and performances are good, but I find it very trying on the ears to listen to. I even tried messing with the files myself to improve them but I couldn't get any decent results that I was happy with. A shame because that's their best material since Promised Land IMO.

Geoff Tate's "Queensryche" is pretty much an abomination, especially live. And let's not even mention those re-records. Ouch.

Fair enough, looks like we're on the same page with Tate.

The self titled album as discussed was masterd horribly, but for some reason, it doesn't destract me from the album too much.  I can see how people find it difficult to listen to though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 21, 2014, 05:34:27 AM
Heads up boys, new Vanishing Point video.  This if FUCKING AWESOME!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgJYsQav90E
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 21, 2014, 05:54:51 AM
Song didn't do much for me, but I liked the solo section. Good sounding production and playing though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 21, 2014, 06:00:03 AM
Heads up boys, new Vanishing Point video.  This if FUCKING AWESOME!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgJYsQav90E

That song actually grew on me as I listened to it  ;D   I started out thinking "yeah, yeah - good but (as per usual) sounds a bit familiar" and by the guitar solo I was "alrighty then........ :D" and by the end I was pretty close to sold.  I hope there's some diversity on the album- if that's the case then we might have a winner here.

I'm pretty hard to please at the moment  - maybe cos I'm old and been listening to this stuff for 25-30 years - but all I really want is some effort to create something the tiniest bit unique - whether it's the vocal melodies or guitar work etc....   It is extremely hard because it has almost all been done before at this point but there is the odd release that really shows that it CAN be done.  Hopefully this is one of them because they certainly have the talent.

Good to see an Aussie band producing stuff like this and something that does have a market .  Count me interested  :tup . 

Song didn't do much for me, but I liked the solo section. Good sounding production and playing though.

That counts as a glowing endorsement of an Aussie band by Blob  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 21, 2014, 06:02:25 AM
Song didn't do much for me, but I liked the solo section. Good sounding production and playing though.

That counts as a glowing endorsement of an Aussie band by Blob  ;D

I'm glad you noticed the effort! :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on February 21, 2014, 01:14:12 PM
I got the new Vanishing Point CD yesterday direct from the band and signed too.
Had a listen to a few songs, sounds great so far.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 21, 2014, 01:17:39 PM
After seeing Wolfie gush over Vanishing Point a while back, i sampled some on youtube, but it really didn't do much for me.
Bravewords was playong a track off the new album and I really liked it. I will have to hear a it more, though, before I buy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 21, 2014, 03:05:51 PM
Song didn't do much for me, but I liked the solo section. Good sounding production and playing though.

That counts as a glowing endorsement of an Aussie band by Blob  ;D

hehe, just what I was thinking.

I got the new Vanishing Point CD yesterday direct from the band and signed too.
Had a listen to a few songs, sounds great so far.

I might get it off the band too, checking website now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 21, 2014, 04:24:06 PM
The New Vanishing Point gets 93/100 at Metal Reviews:
https://www.metalreviews.com/reviews/album/8569
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2014, 03:14:21 AM
Good shit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on February 23, 2014, 01:28:49 AM
Had another listen to VP today, here are some random thoughts:
VP are definitely more power metal with this album lots of fast double bass drumming, and even some blast beats.
Although as melodic as ever, there are some pretty heavy songs and lots of symphonic elements.
14 songs is probably a little too much in 1 hit. Although there is no real 'filler', there are a couple of songs
that fall below the greatness of the rest.
12 songs, with the brief into and the beautiful instrumental finale, would have been ideal.
Saving two very good songs for bonus tracks.
Production is good, but perhaps not as good as the previous 2.

If you had previously been a fan of Vanishing Point, then then you will like this one
I'd rate it 8.5-9.0 out of 10.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2014, 02:50:16 AM
Good to hear gazin.  I noticed the amount of tracks too, and like Embrace the Silence does seem like a very long record.  I think Embrace is about 74 minutes long or something crazy like that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2014, 03:48:33 AM
I went back to Primal Fear today after giving it a break for a week.  It blew me away again.  This is top 3 Primal Fear, maybe higher, this album is incredible and has AOTY quality written all over it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 24, 2014, 11:24:51 AM
I went back to Primal Fear today after giving it a break for a week.  It blew me away again.  This is top 3 Primal Fear, maybe higher, this album is incredible and has AOTY quality written all over it.

It will be tough for it not to be my AOTY. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2014, 02:12:44 PM
I went back to Primal Fear today after giving it a break for a week.  It blew me away again.  This is top 3 Primal Fear, maybe higher, this album is incredible and has AOTY quality written all over it.

It will be tough for it not to be my AOTY.

Nice, real nice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2014, 03:18:33 AM
New Gamma Ray song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ2E_8V7-5w

Cheesy lyrics, but musically awesome and heavy as hell.  Quite ripping actually and a pleasant return to form.  Production sounds quite good too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on February 25, 2014, 08:39:41 AM
I like it quite much. Will buy the CD+DVD edition and looking forward to see them at 25th April in Moscow.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2014, 03:39:43 PM
Yeah, I was looking at the box set, but it doesn't seem worth it, only an extra track, t-shirt and poster.

Also, I'm curious to know if they re-recorded Master of Confusion and Empire of the Undead.  Would be nice if they did.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on February 25, 2014, 10:01:19 PM
What exactly are Gamma Ray doing in this thread?
Power Metal  :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2014, 03:40:46 AM
Yeah true, I should have posted it in the power metal thread.

I guess this thread has just become one of those threads that any new music that doesn't have a big fanbase on DTF gets lumpped into.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on February 26, 2014, 11:46:49 AM
Yup good call.
Well I was going to see Richie Sambora last night in Sydney, but after seeing his set lists, bad weather
lack of parking near the venue I bailed.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 27, 2014, 03:53:39 AM
Yup good call.
Well I was going to see Richie Sambora last night in Sydney, but after seeing his set lists, bad weather
lack of parking near the venue I bailed.

 :lol  Fair enough bro.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 27, 2014, 03:56:17 AM
I didn't bother either but he did a small gig in Melbourne tonight with Orianthi at a local pub venue -  Testament also there this week.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 27, 2014, 03:57:07 AM
BROTHER FIRETRIBE the Finnish AOR/hard rock band featuring NIGHTWISH guitarist Emppu Vuorinen will release its third album, "Diamond In The Firepit", on May 2 via Spinefarm Records. The CD's first single and video, "For Better Or For Worse", will arrive on March 21.


Pekka Heino (LEVERAGE) - Vocals
Emppu Vuorinen (NIGHTWISH) - Guitar
Jason Flinck (KINGS OF MODESTY) - Bass
Tom Nikulainen - Keyboards
Kalle Torniainen - Drums


I got one of their albums in my collection.  I didn't do much for me.  Should dig it out and give it another go.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 27, 2014, 03:59:00 AM
I reckon they're over rated too - too cheesy , over produced and very same-ish.   I'd rather hear something from Leverage.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 27, 2014, 04:00:33 AM
I reckon they're over rated too - too cheesy , over produced and very same-ish.   I'd rather hear something from Leverage.

I think that was my problem too.  I love a bit of cheese, but the songs just reeked, even quite pompous like. (if that makes sense)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 27, 2014, 04:03:55 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/winger-to-release-better-days-comin-in-april/

One of the most misunderstood hard rock bands to come out of the '80s is returning with its first album in five years. WINGER Kip Winger on vocals/bass, Reb Beach on guitar, John Roth on guitar and Rod Morgenstein on drums will release "Better Days Comin'" in North America on April 22 via Frontiers Records. The effort is available for pre-order on Amazon.com in a standard and deluxe configuration. The deluxe edition comes in a glossy digipak and includes the bonus track "Another Beautiful Day" and a DVD including a "Making Of The Album" documentary as well as videos for the first single "Rat Race" and title track, "Better Days Comin'". An iTunes pre-order will be available soon.

WINGER has always been known for its incredible musicianship and the trend continues on "Better Days Comin'".

"On 'Better Days Comin'', we drew from our past to elaborate on our future," explains Kip Winger.

"The band is stronger than ever and very excited about the music on this record. We feel this album exemplifies the true sound of the band in every way."

From the opening riff of album opener "Midnight Driver Of A Love Machine" to the final outro lick of "Out Of This World", it is clear WINGER is back and better than ever. Hard-rocking songs like "Queen Babylon", progressive-rock movements like "Tin Soldier", and touching ballads like "Ever Wonder" show the band's diversity while always centering on great songs.

The debut single from "Better Days Comin'" is the adrenaline-fueled rocker "Rat Race" that showcases some of the band's best work of its 25-year career.

"Better Days Comin'" track listing:

01. Midnight Driver of a Love Machine   
02. Queen Babylon
03. Rat Race
04. Better Days Comin'
05. Tin Soldier
06. Ever Wonder
07. So Long China
08. Storm In Me
09. Be Who You Are, Now
10. Another Beautiful Day (deluxe edition bonus track)
11. Out Of This World


(https://assets.blabbermouth.net/media/wingerband2014_638.jpg)

 :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 27, 2014, 04:44:15 AM
Definitely hopeful for that one. :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 27, 2014, 04:45:25 AM
I don't think they will disappoint.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 27, 2014, 04:46:27 AM
I don't think they will disappoint.

Well very little disappoints you, but I'm a little harder to please. :biggrin: Based on the one little snippet though, I think I can guarantee I'll like at least one track.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 27, 2014, 04:49:40 AM
oh.....I forgot who I was talking to.  :hat
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Delirious Nomad on February 27, 2014, 05:13:48 AM
Can't wait. No Winger album has disappointed me. Not even the underrated IV.

I finally saw them for the first time (two tours in Germany were canceled in the early 90s)
in a small club (not more than 200 people) after the release of Karma. One of the best live experiences I ever had. They are incredibly confident. A kind of presence that is very rare.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 27, 2014, 05:46:48 AM
So long as it's more of a 'Winger' album than a 'Frontiers' album, I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 27, 2014, 05:51:32 AM
So long as it's more of a 'Winger' album than a 'Frontiers' album, I'm looking forward to it.

Judging by their previous couple of albums, and the snippet from this one, I don't think that's an issue.
I don't think it affects the established bands with their own sound so much.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 27, 2014, 06:04:03 AM
Awesome.  Can't wait to get the new Winger.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 27, 2014, 06:05:11 AM
Can one of you guys let me know when it is safe to re enter this thread?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 27, 2014, 06:26:23 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 27, 2014, 05:26:47 PM
Can one of you guys let me know when it is safe to re enter this thread?

(https://www.my-favorite-coloring.net/Images/Large/Famous-characters-Troll-face-Troll-face-poker-269483.png)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 27, 2014, 09:06:00 PM
Going back to the new Primal Fear for a second, I have to say that this is now officially my favorite PF disc.  I get the new car aspect, but I can say this with confidence.

This PF is awesome.  Born with a Broken Heart is the best ballad they've done without question.

The more I listen to this album, the more I'm thinking that this may be the case for me.  It's unbelievable.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 27, 2014, 09:11:48 PM
I should listen to more Primal Fear. I've really liked the few songs I've heard, but never gone any further with them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 27, 2014, 11:20:13 PM
Going back to the new Primal Fear for a second, I have to say that this is now officially my favorite PF disc.  I get the new car aspect, but I can say this with confidence.

This PF is awesome.  Born with a Broken Heart is the best ballad they've done without question.

The more I listen to this album, the more I'm thinking that this may be the case for me.  It's unbelievable.

That's gold Jerry, gold!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on February 28, 2014, 01:42:09 AM
BROTHER FIRETRIBE the Finnish AOR/hard rock band featuring NIGHTWISH guitarist Emppu Vuorinen will release its third album, "Diamond In The Firepit", on May 2 via Spinefarm Records. The CD's first single and video, "For Better Or For Worse", will arrive on March 21.


Pekka Heino (LEVERAGE) - Vocals
Emppu Vuorinen (NIGHTWISH) - Guitar
Jason Flinck (KINGS OF MODESTY) - Bass
Tom Nikulainen - Keyboards
Kalle Torniainen - Drums


I got one of their albums in my collection.  I didn't do much for me.  Should dig it out and give it another go.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I think they brilliant, love the first album to bits, in my top 5 AOR/MR albums of all time.
Second album good but not quite to the standard of the killer debut.
I've seen them live a couple of times when visiting Finland.

Leverage are great too, not sure what they are up too ATM, I think their on a break.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 28, 2014, 02:34:09 AM
New Gotthard single and video

https://www.blick.ch/people-tv/anita-buri-knutscht-mit-gotthard-saenger-id2706297.html


Very well done video and the song is being raved over by most I know who've heard it  , but for my taste it's way too safe.........heard it all before a million times.  I know it has to be accessible as a single but nothing about the song really grabs me.

I won't read to much into the album based on this though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 28, 2014, 02:49:44 AM
BROTHER FIRETRIBE the Finnish AOR/hard rock band featuring NIGHTWISH guitarist Emppu Vuorinen will release its third album, "Diamond In The Firepit", on May 2 via Spinefarm Records. The CD's first single and video, "For Better Or For Worse", will arrive on March 21.


Pekka Heino (LEVERAGE) - Vocals
Emppu Vuorinen (NIGHTWISH) - Guitar
Jason Flinck (KINGS OF MODESTY) - Bass
Tom Nikulainen - Keyboards
Kalle Torniainen - Drums


I got one of their albums in my collection.  I didn't do much for me.  Should dig it out and give it another go.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I think they brilliant, love the first album to bits, in my top 5 AOR/MR albums of all time.
Second album good but not quite to the standard of the killer debut.
I've seen them live a couple of times when visiting Finland.

Leverage are great too, not sure what they are up too ATM, I think their on a break.

I slightly prefer Leverage but both are good. That first BF album was too cheesy but did grow on me, but I preferred the second.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 28, 2014, 02:54:11 AM
New Gotthard single and video

https://www.blick.ch/people-tv/anita-buri-knutscht-mit-gotthard-saenger-id2706297.html


Very well done video and the song is being raved over by most I know who've heard it  , but for my taste it's way too safe.........heard it all before a million times.  I know it has to be accessible as a single but nothing about the song really grabs me.

I won't read to much into the album based on this though.

Yeah...... I think I'll be sticking to the first two albums. That was just generic pop rock.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 05, 2014, 04:11:38 AM
LRS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvqfQOdfg3k

Not bad.  Pretty generic, but nice enough.  Josh Ramos is an amazing guitarist and is probably the reason why I will buy this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 05, 2014, 04:52:47 AM
Frontiers album #3582.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 05, 2014, 11:53:12 AM
Avalon II teaser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIyw90HPjT4&feature=youtu.be&a

I know it's only 23 seconds, but already it's better than the first Avalon.

More stuff I hadn't checked out at https://avalonopera.com/  Damn... Timo and Yngvie must be on the same diet regimen!  With this cast, he better be able to put out something better than the first turd.  Then again, that had a pretty solid vocal cast too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 05, 2014, 03:07:16 PM
New Winger track. Pretty good :metal

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/winger-rat-race/
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 05, 2014, 05:00:32 PM
New Winger track. Pretty good :metal

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/winger-rat-race/

Good stuff - nothing too fresh but I like it.  In fact it sounds like something Reb had left over from Erase The Slate.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 05, 2014, 05:22:45 PM
New Winger track. Pretty good :metal

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/winger-rat-race/

Can't wait to check this out when I get home.


New Winger track. Pretty good :metal

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/winger-rat-race/

Good stuff - nothing too fresh but I like it.  In fact it sounds like something Reb had left over from Erase The Slate.

I liked Erase the Slate, pretty good album with some kilelr tunes.  The live DVD with Reb is awesome too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on March 05, 2014, 08:27:39 PM
Avalon II teaser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIyw90HPjT4&feature=youtu.be&a

I know it's only 23 seconds, but already it's better than the first Avalon.
I'm still reserving judgement. That teaser doesn't sound like much of anything to me, other than more of the same (which isn't a good thing).

New Winger track. Pretty good :metal

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/winger-rat-race/
Now we're talking. Not bad. :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 05, 2014, 10:27:54 PM
I liked that! Great production, and a solid hard rock song, and this time without the overdone pitch correction. I'm definitely hopeful for this album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2014, 04:42:15 AM
meh on the Tolkki sample.

But fuck yeah on the Winger, great hard rock right there.  Brent, I instantly thought of your Erase the Slate reference as soon as I heard the opening riff.  :lol

Love the interplay between Reb and John too.  I hope John gets a few more solos on this one, he's a great guitarist.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2014, 05:28:32 AM
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=40926.0

Had a chat with Paul from Eden's Curse in the thread he made about the tour.  I'm one happy Aussie right now.  There's a link to one of Nikola's other bands which is amazing.  Check it out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2014, 05:19:01 AM
LRS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvqfQOdfg3k

Not bad.  Pretty generic, but nice enough.  Josh Ramos is an amazing guitarist and is probably the reason why I will buy this.

I actually can't stop listening to this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 07, 2014, 05:35:20 AM
LRS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvqfQOdfg3k

Not bad.  Pretty generic, but nice enough.  Josh Ramos is an amazing guitarist and is probably the reason why I will buy this.

I actually can't stop listening to this.

I like it too - it is generic Frontiers stuff but 3 things elevate it......................Tommy's voice , Josh's solo and the little breakdown after the solo.

If you like Tommy's voice and don't already have it then you need to get the 21 Guns album Salute - it has Scott Gorham on guitar.  Amongst other good tracks it has one of the most immense AOR ballads ever  (These Eyes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlN4U6rH-As

And one of the more rocking tracks  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3yVFFqwAAY
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2014, 05:51:31 AM
Yeah man, those songs are pretty good.  I am liking this guys voice and it's the first I've heard of him.

I remember the samples of this LRS album not doing anything for me, but this song has me hooked.  The main guitar line at the start and before the solo is incredible.  Definitely buying this one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 07, 2014, 08:53:57 AM
Yeah man, those songs are pretty good.  I am liking this guys voice and it's the first I've heard of him.

I remember the samples of this LRS album not doing anything for me, but this song has me hooked.  The main guitar line at the start and before the solo is incredible.  Definitely buying this one.

I'll second the recommendation for the 21 Guns - Salute. Good album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on March 07, 2014, 12:04:53 PM
Hey man - you have taste  ;D

I was only thinking yesterday that A Little Ain't Enough is probably now my favourite Roth solo album.............and I'm a big (understatement) VH, Roth and (when on plant Earth)  Vai fan.

I think Roth is seriously under rated as a writer. He did great on ALAE and some of the stuff he wrote for A Different Kind of Truth is LOL hilarious and bloody clever

Man, I'm sorry I missed this a while ago. Thanks!

Has anyone heard the Japanese bonus track off of Hardline's Double Eclipse? I discovered it about a year ago and love it quite a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs5Tbg4QBUw

Also, I'm not sure if I have seen these guys mentioned here, they may have been and I missed it.

They are more on the 80s metal side of the spectrum. Not the best music ever, but I thought they would be worth mentioning.

Reckless Love - So Happy I could Die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icp_XIYYUfc

A couple of others:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LjB5kfAV-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1tZpnk5N8M
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 07, 2014, 02:18:15 PM
Hey man - you have taste  ;D

I was only thinking yesterday that A Little Ain't Enough is probably now my favourite Roth solo album.............and I'm a big (understatement) VH, Roth and (when on plant Earth)  Vai fan.

I think Roth is seriously under rated as a writer. He did great on ALAE and some of the stuff he wrote for A Different Kind of Truth is LOL hilarious and bloody clever


Man, I'm sorry I missed this a while ago. Thanks!

Has anyone heard the Japanese bonus track off of Hardline's Double Eclipse? I discovered it about a year ago and love it quite a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs5Tbg4QBUw

Also, I'm not sure if I have seen these guys mentioned here, they may have been and I missed it.

They are more on the 80s metal side of the spectrum. Not the best music ever, but I thought they would be worth mentioning.

Reckless Love - So Happy I could Die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icp_XIYYUfc

A couple of others:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LjB5kfAV-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1tZpnk5N8M

I have to say reckless Love are fucking awful. I can't see anything remotely good about them at all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2014, 03:33:59 PM
Yeah, I checked that first song and it did nothing for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on March 07, 2014, 03:45:43 PM
Well that does it for me recommending anything anymore.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 07, 2014, 04:14:22 PM
Well that does it for me recommending anything anymore.  :lol

Don't worry about it, just be better at it next time  :biggrin:

...I sent Chad a ManOwaR track in his roulette. He was so impressed...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 07, 2014, 06:27:56 PM
Well that does it for me recommending anything anymore.  :lol

Don't worry about it, just be better at it next time  :biggrin:

...I sent Chad a ManOwaR track in his roulette. He was so impressed...

Fix'd.  Throughout the whole roulette, that was the only dud you fired.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 08, 2014, 07:57:12 AM
Well that does it for me recommending anything anymore.  :lol

Don't worry about it, just be better at it next time  :biggrin:

...I sent Chad a ManOwaR track in his roulette. He was so impressed...

Fix'd.  Throughout the whole roulette, that was the only dud you fired.

Well I was 5-0 up[ going into the last minute. Thought I'd bring on a wildcard. Still think its a quality song and a great vocal. Epic even. Though I can hardly say you've got shit taste can I  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2014, 04:57:51 AM
I must have missed that during the roulette.  What Manowar song was sent boys?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2014, 06:33:48 AM
Mountains
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2014, 07:41:17 PM
Badass.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 10, 2014, 03:19:28 AM
Badass.

I thought so. Chad didn't  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2014, 04:33:50 AM
Pffft.....what would he know!  :hat
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2014, 04:48:39 AM
Great new Pretty Maids song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ1FUkxgWZc

These guys are on fire and their more poppy ballad type songs are just perfect.  Amazing band doing the best things they ever have.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 10, 2014, 07:12:28 AM
Great new Pretty Maids song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ1FUkxgWZc

These guys are on fire and their more poppy ballad type songs are just perfect.  Amazing band doing the best things they ever have.

Great band. Nice song. Only a couple of new songs on the album, and some re-records though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2014, 03:02:24 PM
Great new Pretty Maids song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ1FUkxgWZc

These guys are on fire and their more poppy ballad type songs are just perfect.  Amazing band doing the best things they ever have.

Great band. Nice song. Only a couple of new songs on the album, and some re-records though.

Yeah, I think they should have stuck it out and just went for a whole album, but iI'll take this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 11, 2014, 07:15:08 AM
The missus is on my case as usual and today it's about throwing out a lot of my old music stuff  ::)  Next will be all my music mags I suppose.  Anyway - as part of the process my old cassettes saw the light of day for the first time in 20 years.   It's far from the lot but what I have left is like a bit of a time capsule.

I was a bit late to CD's so it covers up to around 90/91 (age 16) and is a pretty good representation of what I listened to in primary and secondary school.   It basically mirrors my current taste - everything from early Bryan Adams to Annihilator.   The bands over represented there (VH, Ozzy, KISS,Malmsteen Savatage etc....) show where I was focused most.

Here's a photo (rough alpha order) I just took for posterity.  Dunno whether to chuck 'em or not.......   Memories...........

(https://i62.tinypic.com/dyu7ox.jpg)

I'm pretty sure in among the blankies there's a demo I played on and shopped around (with no success) -  that'll be interesting if it plays .  Some of the compilation tapes I made are pretty amazing to look at too - hours in front of the radio recording/dubbing etc.....
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 11, 2014, 07:19:43 AM
Sooooo much good right there. :metal Don't you dare get rid of that stuff!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 11, 2014, 08:35:09 AM
Classic material in that bunch. In retrospect, cassettes are the shits though
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 11, 2014, 08:40:24 AM
I get the same complaints from my missus Brent. Aint got rid of mine yet but everything is in the attic in boxes. Its all a bit of a state too as I get the urge to listen to something I have to find it...
I have many of the same cassettes too. I was an early cd adopter at home but I used a walkman for the work commute and hated the quality loss when taping stuff so if I really liked something I used to buy it on cd and cassette. Ouch.

A few  of those I have on vinyl too... Oh the money I've spent  :omg:

Only a couple I don't recognise. Row 1, 8+9 and row 4 1+6. Is row 6, 3 Shotgun Messiah?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 11, 2014, 08:43:45 AM
You got Shotgun Messiah right - yep.

Row 1 , 8+9 = Chicago 19 and Choirboys (Aussie rock)

Row 4 , 1+6  are Metal Church : hanging In The Balance and Noiseworks: Touch.

I wish I'd been around a bit earlier and had these all in vinyl.  I dare say most of these wouldn't play even if I wanted to .  I still see people selling tapes on Ebay though - wishful thinking I'd imagine or is there a collectors market?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 11, 2014, 08:48:11 AM
You got Shotgun Messiah right - yep.

Row 1 , 8+9 = Chicago 19 and Choirboys (Aussie rock)

Row 4 , 1+6  are Metal Church : hanging In The Balance and Noiseworks: Touch.

I wish I'd been around a bit earlier and had these all in vinyl.  I dare say most of these wouldn't play even if I wanted to .  I still see people selling tapes on Ebay though - wishful thinking I'd imagine or is there a collectors market?

Ah, don't know those albums at all. I still don't have that Roxus on any format. Its Youtube for me if I want to hear that!
Most of my cassettes seem to work ok when I've tried them. There will be a risk of them getting jammed I gguess, but there always was  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 11, 2014, 08:50:44 AM
Yeah - I'm not sure what the story is these days but I had to really pull some strings with a few people to score a CD copy of Roxus back in the 90's.  I imagine it's not quite so hard these days.  Great melodic rock album that - one of dozens of awesome albums released just as the shit hit the fan.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on March 11, 2014, 09:11:53 AM
I used to listen to that Choirboys tape when I was a kid, my dad had it. And of course Run To Paradise is a radio classic. :metal

I'm a bit too young to have had a cassette collection, I got started with CDs, but I do regret getting rid of my VHS collection many years ago. :(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on March 11, 2014, 12:48:26 PM
The missus is on my case as usual and today it's about throwing out a lot of my old music stuff  ::)  Next will be all my music mags I suppose.  Anyway - as part of the process my old cassettes saw the light of day for the first time in 20 years.   It's far from the lot but what I have left is like a bit of a time capsule.

I was a bit late to CD's so it covers up to around 90/91 (age 16) and is a pretty good representation of what I listened to in primary and secondary school.   It basically mirrors my current taste - everything from early Bryan Adams to Annihilator.   The bands over represented there (VH, Ozzy, KISS,Malmsteen Savatage etc....) show where I was focused most.

Here's a photo (rough alpha order) I just took for posterity.  Dunno whether to chuck 'em or not.......   Memories...........

I'm pretty sure in among the blankies there's a demo I played on and shopped around (with no success) -  that'll be interesting if it plays .  Some of the compilation tapes I made are pretty amazing to look at too - hours in front of the radio recording/dubbing etc.....

Man, if that was vinyl... :o.

Even still, I say find a place to hide em away or something. That's a cool collection of memories even if they don't get playing time.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 11, 2014, 03:29:59 PM
The missus is on my case as usual and today it's about throwing out a lot of my old music stuff  ::)  Next will be all my music mags I suppose.  Anyway - as part of the process my old cassettes saw the light of day for the first time in 20 years.   It's far from the lot but what I have left is like a bit of a time capsule.

I was a bit late to CD's so it covers up to around 90/91 (age 16) and is a pretty good representation of what I listened to in primary and secondary school.   It basically mirrors my current taste - everything from early Bryan Adams to Annihilator.   The bands over represented there (VH, Ozzy, KISS,Malmsteen Savatage etc....) show where I was focused most.

Here's a photo (rough alpha order) I just took for posterity.  Dunno whether to chuck 'em or not.......   Memories...........

I'm pretty sure in among the blankies there's a demo I played on and shopped around (with no success) -  that'll be interesting if it plays .  Some of the compilation tapes I made are pretty amazing to look at too - hours in front of the radio recording/dubbing etc.....

Man, if that was vinyl... :o.

Even still, I say find a place to hide em away or something. That's a cool collection of memories even if they don't get playing time.

I've got 29 of them on vinyl. Not seen the light of day in 20 years and more.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 11, 2014, 03:34:52 PM

I've got 29 of them on vinyl. Not seen the light of day in 20 years and more.
I had 40 of those pictured, mostly all on cassette. The only one I had on vinyl was Kiss' Killers.

I gave away two big boxes of my cassettes a few years ago.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 11, 2014, 03:44:24 PM

I've got 29 of them on vinyl. Not seen the light of day in 20 years and more.
I had 40 of those pictured, mostly all on cassette. The only one I had on vinyl was Kiss' Killers.

I gave away two big boxes of my cassettes a few years ago.

32 of them on cassette to go with the 29 on vinyl. A few double up (triple up if you count the cds too  :facepalm:)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Jaq on March 11, 2014, 04:11:27 PM
I had 30 of those, mostly on cassette, a few on vinyl. Between me and my best friend at the time, we had like 95% of them.  :rollin
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on March 11, 2014, 04:37:01 PM
I've got 29 of them on vinyl. Not seen the light of day in 20 years and more.

If you ever want to get rid of them, let me know.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 11, 2014, 06:32:06 PM
That Noiseworks album had some amazing songs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on March 16, 2014, 03:07:08 AM
Listening to the new Magnum ATM and I'm surprised at how good it is.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2014, 03:41:02 AM
Listening to the new Magnum ATM and I'm surprised at how good it is.

Good to hear as the sample sounded underwhelming.  Check you PM's man.  It's too late though, I already ordered from Amazon UK.  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on March 16, 2014, 05:36:30 AM
Geez.  I had 41 of those between albums and cassettes.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on March 16, 2014, 01:11:24 PM
Listening to the new Magnum ATM and I'm surprised at how good it is.

Good to hear as the sample sounded underwhelming.  Check you PM's man.  It's too late though, I already ordered from Amazon UK.  ;D

Yeah that sample is the most odd ball song on the album, lets just say it would have made a great 'bonus' track  ::) ::)
PM answered.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2014, 06:41:29 PM
Without going through old posts, who recommended/pimped out Dynazty?  Finally got around to finding some music of theirs (on ReverbNation).  Nice stuff.  Feeling a purchase coming on.

Must ...

Resist ...

:james:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 16, 2014, 06:44:20 PM
Paul has talked about them at times and I PM'd links to you months ago .  I assume you got the Tad Morose stuff - let me know what you think of that before 2015  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2014, 05:33:25 AM
Winger samples;

https://www.melodicrock.com/showcase/winger-betterdayscomin.html

This is not what I expected.  I honestly don't know what to think of these.  Not digging some of these too much really.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 17, 2014, 05:46:36 AM
They sound ok, but nothing standout. Still sounds a lot more promising than the last couple of albums though. I'll check it out once it's released.

The new Stan Bush album is officially out now, although I was naughty and have been listening to it for the past week or so. I don't like any of the ballads, but the rest of the album really hits the spot as usual. Don't expect anyone else here would like it though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2014, 05:47:53 AM
I doubt I'll buy the Stan Bush but I will have a listen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 17, 2014, 05:48:58 AM
If you didn't like the last couple, don't bother. I don't think you'll like it, because you don't have the touch. You don't have the power.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 17, 2014, 06:28:16 AM
Paul has talked about them at times and I PM'd links to you months ago .  I assume you got the Tad Morose stuff - let me know what you think of that before 2015  ;D

Well then, it was likely the links that you PM'd me that I finally got around to in my "Watch Later" YT list.  Good stuff.

Still haven't hit the Tad Morose links.  Prepping for DT concert this week is taking up most of my listening.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2014, 04:42:02 AM
Three Lions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xocEX08k584

This is pretty decent.  Vinny rips.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on March 19, 2014, 12:43:44 PM
Yeah decent song, although I don't think I could stomach a whole album with those kind of 'chic' lyrics.
But as you said Vinny rips, reminding me a lot of old style Gary Moore.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 19, 2014, 02:50:41 PM
Yeah decent song, although I don't think I could stomach a whole album with those kind of 'chic' lyrics.
Agreed.

I love that guy's voice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 19, 2014, 06:59:14 PM
That Three Lions song is pretty good, nice vocals.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2014, 07:21:26 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure where that vocalist is from.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 20, 2014, 05:24:50 AM
Given how old he looks, you'd think he'd done something before now. The comments in say the Dare guys are "introducing" him..
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 20, 2014, 05:26:33 AM
As far as I know he was just a pub/club band guy before Vinny got him involved in this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 20, 2014, 05:32:04 AM
I've also never bothered to check out Dare.

I'd give The Three Lions another shot, but if that is the best song on the album, its not going to be very good. Those lyrics were cringeworthy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2014, 05:40:15 AM
As far as I know he was just a pub/club band guy before Vinny got him involved in this.

Wow, that's good stuff.

I've also never bothered to check out Dare.

I've only got Out of the Silence but it's really good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 20, 2014, 05:53:07 AM
As far as I know he was just a pub/club band guy before Vinny got him involved in this.

Wow, that's good stuff.

I've also never bothered to check out Dare.
Blood From Stone is good too but things get a bit more chilled after that. Sort of a Celtic snoozefest... Good if you're in the mood for that but the "rock" disappeared.
I've only got Out of the Silence but it's really good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2014, 05:54:42 AM
I thought Out of the Silence was laid back enough let alone them softening things down even more.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 20, 2014, 05:57:48 AM
Calm Before The Storm (especially the recent re-record) isn't that much softer than Out of the Silence.  I didn't bother with them after that album but it's a good one.

Blood From Stone is the real odd one out , the way that it rocks.........I like it but I think the songwriting is a lot stronger on Out of the Silence.  As Paul said , "if you're in the mood" .......it's a ripper.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2014, 03:41:59 PM
Might check that one out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: NotePad on March 21, 2014, 01:17:40 AM
So what are some really well known, popular AOR bands?
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Post by: bl5150 on March 21, 2014, 09:13:58 AM
So what are some really well known, popular AOR bands?

At the risk of being obvious -  Journey, Toto, Foreigner, Survivor



New Brother Firetribe song for those interested

https://www.soundi.fi/uutiset/perjantaibiisi-brother-firetribe-better-or-worse

I've never got into them much as it's all so samey, over produced and cheesy but for what it is it's a decent song.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 21, 2014, 10:02:25 AM
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Neal and Jonathan are working on new Jimmy Barnes music with Jackie Barnes! Kevin Shirley producing.

Interesting. Seems that Neal Schon and other members of Journey are doing a lot of side projects lately. Can't wait to hear them all.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 21, 2014, 12:22:10 PM
So what are some really well known, popular AOR bands?

At the risk of being obvious -  Journey, Toto, Foreigner, Survivor



New Brother Firetribe song for those interested

https://www.soundi.fi/uutiset/perjantaibiisi-brother-firetribe-better-or-worse

I've never got into them much as it's all so samey, over produced and cheesy but for what it is it's a decent song.

I like 'em. Prefer the singer's other band, Leverage, but BF are pretty good for cheesy AOR. At least the guitars are there with the keys.
New song sounds fine. Not alot different from their previous stuff but decent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on March 21, 2014, 02:26:18 PM
Jimmy Barnes has also been working with Joe Bonamassa again.
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Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2014, 04:12:21 PM
Check this haul I just got in the mail boys;

Axel Rudi Pell - Into the Storm (digi)
Iron Savior - Rise of the Hero (digi)
House of Lords - Precious Metal
Overland - Epic
Ring of Fire - Battle of Lenigrad
W.E.T. - Live in Stockholm (2CD/DVD)
Vanishing Point - Distant is the Sun
Vanden Plas - Chronicles of the Immortals

 :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2014, 04:13:44 PM
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Neal and Jonathan are working on new Jimmy Barnes music with Jackie Barnes! Kevin Shirley producing.

Interesting. Seems that Neal Schon and other members of Journey are doing a lot of side projects lately. Can't wait to hear them all.

FUCK YES!!!  I've been waiting for another Barnes album with these two, awesome.

Jimmy Barnes has also been working with Joe Bonamassa again.

Full album please?

If Barnes could do another Living Loud album that would be awesome too.
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Post by: TAC on March 21, 2014, 04:17:48 PM
Nice. What's Overland?
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Post by: gazinwales on March 21, 2014, 04:20:49 PM
Check this haul I just got in the mail boys;

Axel Rudi Pell - Into the Storm (digi)
Iron Savior - Rise of the Hero (digi)
House of Lords - Precious Metal
Overland - Epic
Ring of Fire - Battle of Lenigrad
W.E.T. - Live in Stockholm (2CD/DVD)
Vanishing Point - Distant is the Sun
Vanden Plas - Chronicles of the Immortals

 :metal

Your order from Amazon UK?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2014, 04:54:34 PM
Check this haul I just got in the mail boys;

Axel Rudi Pell - Into the Storm (digi)
Iron Savior - Rise of the Hero (digi)
House of Lords - Precious Metal
Overland - Epic
Ring of Fire - Battle of Lenigrad
W.E.T. - Live in Stockholm (2CD/DVD)
Vanishing Point - Distant is the Sun
Vanden Plas - Chronicles of the Immortals

 :metal

Your order from Amazon UK?

yep, sent you a quick PM.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2014, 04:55:36 PM
Nice. What's Overland?

Steve Overland, the lead singer from 80's AOR band FM.  Great voice.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 22, 2014, 02:55:46 AM
Nice list Kade - of those I have the Vanden Plas already , with the Overland, Vanishing Point and HoL on the way.   I'm hearing rather mixed reviews on all of them bar the Vanden Plas so will be interesting to see how we find them.

Interesting to hear re Barnes and the Journey guys.  From what I've seen his voice is shot in a live setting but if they can pull something off in the studio that's even half as good as Freight Train Heart then I'll be interested,
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 22, 2014, 03:00:41 AM
I'm not a Barnes fan, but I will give anything a chance where Neal Schon is involved, so hopefully it turns out well.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2014, 03:09:02 AM
I'm not a Barnes fan, but I will give anything a chance where Neal Schon is involved, so hopefully it turns out well.

Why not?..................Oh wait, he's Aussie, nevermind.


Nice list Kade - of those I have the Vanden Plas already , with the Overland, Vanishing Point and HoL on the way.   I'm hearing rather mixed reviews on all of them bar the Vanden Plas so will be interesting to see how we find them.

Only listened to Vanishing Point so far.  I don't want to chop and change too much between them, just want to spend a solid couple of days on each.  The Vanishing Point is awesome.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 23, 2014, 03:15:39 AM
I'm not a Barnes fan, but I will give anything a chance where Neal Schon is involved, so hopefully it turns out well.

Why not?..................Oh wait, he's Aussie, nevermind.


Yes. He sings bogan pub rock, and has a shot screechy voice. Is he even known outside of this country?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2014, 05:34:03 AM
I'm not a Barnes fan, but I will give anything a chance where Neal Schon is involved, so hopefully it turns out well.

Why not?..................Oh wait, he's Aussie, nevermind.


Yes. He sings bogan pub rock, and has a shot screechy voice. Is he even known outside of this country?

u mad bro?

Dunno, I don't think he is known outside here.  But he must be doing something right to have people like Cain, Schon, Bonamassa, Morse, Daisley, Lewis, Child, Setzer, Turner working with him.  ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 23, 2014, 05:59:48 AM
:lol Just passionate about what I love and hate!

Fact is, with Cain and Schon on the project, I can promise I will give it a fair chance, and I truly hope that it turns out great. Having more music to enjoy is never a bad thing!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 23, 2014, 07:06:10 AM
Of course Barnes is known outside of Australia , they can hear his screeching from there  ;D - he often tours the UK/Europe and as Kade mentioned he's well known by the people who matter in the US.   As early as mid 1980's he got a call from Eddie Van Halen about potentially taking over that gig.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on March 23, 2014, 12:42:57 PM
I'm not a Barnes fan, but I will give anything a chance where Neal Schon is involved, so hopefully it turns out well.

Why not?..................Oh wait, he's Aussie, nevermind.


Yes. He sings bogan pub rock, and has a shot screechy voice. Is he even known outside of this country?

Well actually he is Scottish :)
Your comment is nothing short of ridiculous.
You may not like him, but he is an Aussie icon and quite obviously by the company he keeps, known throughout the world.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2014, 03:14:38 PM
Of course Barnes is known outside of Australia , they can hear his screeching from there  ;D - he often tours the UK/Europe and as Kade mentioned he's well known by the people who matter in the US.   As early as mid 1980's he got a call from Eddie Van Halen about potentially taking over that gig.

Wow, that would have been something special.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 23, 2014, 06:58:44 PM
If you haven't already seen it.....................of interest to fans of Ozzy/Randy Rhoads

https://www.bobdaisley.com/content/blizzard-ozz-and-holy-grail
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 23, 2014, 09:23:30 PM
I'm not a Barnes fan, but I will give anything a chance where Neal Schon is involved, so hopefully it turns out well.

Why not?..................Oh wait, he's Aussie, nevermind.


Yes. He sings bogan pub rock, and has a shot screechy voice. Is he even known outside of this country?

Well actually he is Scottish :)
Your comment is nothing short of ridiculous.
You may not like him, but he is an Aussie icon and quite obviously by the company he keeps, known throughout the world.


It's called an opinion. Calm down. :chill
And I'd say he's more Australian than Scottish, having lived here since a kid, well before he became known. He's more Australian than most other celebrities this desperate country tries to claim as our own.
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Post by: gazinwales on March 23, 2014, 10:57:52 PM
Thank you clarifying what an opinion is.
Yes I know that JB moved here when he was four years old, hence his thick Aussie accent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 25, 2014, 02:14:49 PM
Avalon EPK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xBIf956FgA

Again, the melodies just sound so novice like and generic.  Will give it a chance though.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 26, 2014, 03:29:24 AM
Avalon EPK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xBIf956FgA

Again, the melodies just sound so novice like and generic.  Will give it a chance though.

Yeah ....sounds boring and Floor Jansen sounds like she couldn't be bothered either.....on cruise control
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 26, 2014, 04:47:59 AM
I really hope the Allen/Lande project has been passed back to Karlsson.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 26, 2014, 06:03:40 AM
Another Winger video-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tOzsssTtDU

Average but not too bad song, and they shouldn't have gotten JJ Abram's half step-cousin to direct it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 27, 2014, 05:25:49 AM
Another Winger video-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tOzsssTtDU

I honestly don't know what to think of this.  Not sure whether I love it or hate it.  I could go either way.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 27, 2014, 08:15:41 AM
I like it. Not sure about the woo- oo's though.
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Post by: Bolsters on March 27, 2014, 08:29:14 AM
Not into that one as much as the last.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 27, 2014, 08:31:20 AM
I like it. Not sure about the woo- oo's though.

Pretty much this..............I reckon it'll be a grower.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 27, 2014, 08:40:21 AM
New Steel Panther album streaming here

https://now.jbhifi.com.au/Album/1083_5060186921341
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 27, 2014, 08:43:29 AM
Looked earlier. Requires sign up. Screw that.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 27, 2014, 08:46:13 AM
Looked earlier. Requires sign up. Screw that.

Uh sorry.............forwarded it on before I tried it myself.  Should've guessed there'd be a catch.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 31, 2014, 02:56:52 AM
Half hour Mitch Lafon interview with Kip Winger -  Mitch seems a bit clueless as to where they went with their sound on Karma but anyway.........always does a decent interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CobMDJKY4k
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Post by: gazinwales on March 31, 2014, 11:32:05 PM
Mega pissed off that I just found out today that the Royal Hunt AU has been cancelled.
I was so looking forward, probably more so to see Vanishing Point, and they cancelled for no good reason.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 31, 2014, 11:43:04 PM
Mega pissed off that I just found out today that the Royal Hunt AU has been cancelled.
I was so looking forward, probably more so to see Vanishing Point, and they cancelled for no good reason.

I'm not on facebook but apparently there's a video explaining things on DC's facebook page.  Apparently the promoter ain't got a great rep.
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Post by: gazinwales on April 01, 2014, 02:41:57 AM
DC is blaming the promoter(s) (seems there is 4 of them involved) and the promoter (Rockstar)
is pointing the finger at the band.
Whatever went down, 2 days before the tour is leaving it very late.

I haven't heard anything bad about Rockstar Productions in the past.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 01, 2014, 04:17:43 AM
Damn, that sucks.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 02, 2014, 03:36:31 AM
Super groups always tend to disappoint but check out the line up on this! Augeri, Marcello, Donati, Henryson.

 Supposed to be a proggy Journey sound.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/%C3%9CNDERW%C3%96RLD/227287890804289
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Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2014, 04:44:43 AM
I'll definitely check that out.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 02, 2014, 05:09:35 AM
Those demos sound poor. Talent in the band but no songs there...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2014, 05:36:50 AM
Didn't even listen to the demos.  That's sounds disappointing though.

Man, speaking of disappointing, what did you guys think of the new House of Lords.  I can't get into it at all, the songs are just not there IMO.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2014, 06:00:41 AM
I thought Precious Metal was pretty solid.  As good as Big Money.  Can't say I expect too much from them; they delivered on my expectations.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 02, 2014, 06:19:40 AM
I thought Precious Metal was pretty solid.  As good as Big Money.  Can't say I expect too much from them; they delivered on my expectations.

I thought it was ok. Not great but decent. Because of that its not had much of a look in as there are better albums out there at the moment, most of them in a more metal direction.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2014, 06:22:21 AM
I thought Precious Metal was pretty solid.  As good as Big Money.  Can't say I expect too much from them; they delivered on my expectations.

I thought it was ok. Not great but decent. Because of that its not had much of a look in as there are better albums out there at the moment, most of them in a more metal direction.

Agreed.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 02, 2014, 06:27:30 AM
Haven't been the best the last few days so been a bit slack in terms of music and haven't got to the HoL as yet.

Of those I have had a chance to listen to:

L.R.S.>Vanishing Point>>>>>>>>>>>HoL>>>>>KXM and Gus G
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Post by: bl5150 on April 02, 2014, 07:49:08 AM
Updated the above to include House of Lords.   Unfortunately the first track was the best and it was just okay from there.   It's getting to the point where all their recent albums sound the same to me - Bell hardly ever varies his sound/style.  I miss the old days where each album for most bands (incl HoL) had its own personality  - you'd only need to play me 10 secs of an old HoL song and I could tell you if it came from s/t, Sahara or Demons Down.    I'd struggle with any of the Bell era stuff.



If any other band put it out it'd probably rate a bit higher but this is just more of the same , but not as good.


PS  Thankfully DT and a few other bands still manage to pull of the art of each album having its own vibe.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2014, 07:55:22 AM
I agree that it's 'more of the same', but I still feel it's pretty good/enjoyable.  Perhaps because I only became a HoL fan within the last couple of years (invariably because of this thread).
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Post by: Lowdz on April 02, 2014, 10:56:46 AM
I thought the LRS album was a letdown. AOR by numbers. Nothing standing out. I expected better from the lineup. Not a patch on 21 Guns - Salute.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 02, 2014, 11:07:27 AM
I thought the LRS album was a letdown. AOR by numbers. Nothing standing out. I expected better from the lineup. Not a patch on 21 Guns - Salute.

I need to spin it a few more times - it may well wear off - but I thought it was a cut above the vast majority of project albums - better performances and songwriting.  I didn't expect to like it as much as I did on first listen.  Admittedly the bar is set low these days on new releases (I don't like many) ...........

I found the Overland and HoL to be a lot more "by the numbers" than L.R.S. but they're all nothing that hasn't been done before.  L.R.S. was the only album out of the new releases to crack the 80% barrier on my ratings , with Vanishing Point and Overland not too far behind.   KXM and Gus G didn't float my boat at all.
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Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2014, 07:55:15 PM
Agree with you Brent, the first song was great but after that, it was just flat.  A big step down from Big Money.

Haven't got the LRS yet, but looking forward to it. 

I also think the Overland is pretty good.  My first listen was 'meh' but after that it's a grower, some great tracks on there.

I LOVE the Gus G album too.  One of the best of the year IMO.
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Post by: rickhawk80 on April 05, 2014, 09:57:45 AM
Rediscovered an old gem this week:  Hurricane.  Was in Vegas for the week and they were playing with the Geoff Tate version of Queensryche one night so, on a whim, I figured that was a decent evening for $25 since Geoff is playing Mindcrime in its entirety these days along with other QR classics.   :biggrin:

Anyway, Hurricane as the opener was fantastic!!  I forgot how good some of their stuff was back in the 80s.  They've got a new vocalist now (since their original vocalist now sings with Foreigner), but it's still Robert Sarzo on guitar and Tony Cavazo on bass and they were superb!!  :metal

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2014, 03:52:00 AM
That's the same Hurricane Dough Aldrich was in right?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 06, 2014, 04:12:24 AM
That's the one. I only have the album he played on, Slave to the Thrill. Not bad. Haven't checked out the first album yet.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 06, 2014, 04:59:01 AM
That's the one. I only have the album he played on, Slave to the Thrill. Not bad. Haven't checked out the first album yet.

You've probably got all you need there Blob. The 1st was ok, the 2nd better but not a patch on STTT. The 4th (Liquifury) was crap.
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Post by: wolfking on April 08, 2014, 04:56:03 AM
Fuck Timo, you are just not doing it for me anymore.  Same, boring generic shit.  But man, I never really realised how damn sexy Floor is. 

Please someone keep this man away from Allen/Lande.  Magnus Karlsson would shit out a better sounding album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to8Uf3nUJoE&feature=player_embedded
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Post by: Bolsters on April 08, 2014, 05:57:32 AM
That Avalon song: (https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/tired-sleeping-smiley-4644.gif~original) Though it's pretty much what I expected from him.
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Post by: Evermind on April 08, 2014, 06:54:51 AM
I've decided months ago I won't bother buying or listening to anything from new Avalon, but I think I'll watch it when I'm home just because of Floor. :)

edit: Listened to it, yeah, nothing spectacular. Very boring, I dunno why Floor agreed to sing on this actually.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 08, 2014, 08:06:51 AM
Pretty bland, but better than anything from Avalon I - though that's not saying much.

And I've always known how smokin Floor is. :drool:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 08, 2014, 10:46:11 AM
Hmm. I guess it was ok, nothing more than that. Didn't exactly test Floor at all and wasted her voice really. Anyone could have sung that.
She's not the prettiest but she's certainly hot.
Last year's video with Elize Ryd was better  :heart :heart :heart
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 08, 2014, 12:19:13 PM
Floor's barely out of 1st gear there - shit song and not right for her either. 

Here's another rather proggy song off the new Winger - I like the idea of them doing something like this but not sure there's enough going on in a melodic sense (like most prog then  ;D  ).  Might be a grower though.  I think I'm going to like this new album but not as much as Karma/Pull.

https://www.guitarworld.com/exclusive-winger-premiere-tin-soldier-music-video
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 08, 2014, 01:46:45 PM
Floor's barely out of 1st gear there - shit song and not right for her either. 

Here's another rather proggy song off the new Winger - I like the idea of them doing something like this but not sure there's enough going on in a melodic sense (like most prog then  ;D  ).  Might be a grower though.  I think I'm going to like this new album but not as much as Karma/Pull.

https://www.guitarworld.com/exclusive-winger-premiere-tin-soldier-music-video

I enjoyed that. Sounds like a decent album so far. Last two haven't blown me away but have been decent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 08, 2014, 01:51:04 PM
Do grown men really listen to Winger?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 08, 2014, 04:23:03 PM
Do grown men really listen to Winger?

Yes.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 08, 2014, 04:26:59 PM
Here's another rather proggy song off the new Winger - I like the idea of them doing something like this but not sure there's enough going on in a melodic sense (like most prog then  ;D  ).  Might be a grower though.  I think I'm going to like this new album but not as much as Karma/Pull.

https://www.guitarworld.com/exclusive-winger-premiere-tin-soldier-music-video

I actually thought this was pretty damn cool.  Album definitely sounds like it's gonna be a grower and need time, but I think it will pay off.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 08, 2014, 05:02:24 PM
wow that new Winger tune is pretty damn good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 08, 2014, 08:21:28 PM
Do grown men really listen to Winger?

You should direct your attention to the wrestling thread TAC  ;D  I think Winger's modern day output is about as mature as that style gets.  Some of their older stuff , before Pull , I struggle with a bit .

I don't know if anyone checked the interview I linked to above but I found one thing quite funny -  the interviewer asked Kip if they found it hard to play Seventeen these days and he commented on how their chops are still good and they can play anything.  That's not what the question meant :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on April 09, 2014, 01:09:25 AM
Here's another rather proggy song off the new Winger - I like the idea of them doing something like this but not sure there's enough going on in a melodic sense (like most prog then  ;D  ).  Might be a grower though.  I think I'm going to like this new album but not as much as Karma/Pull.

https://www.guitarworld.com/exclusive-winger-premiere-tin-soldier-music-video
Sounds pretty good, though a tad repetitious with that main riff. This album is looking promising so far though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 09, 2014, 08:48:58 AM
if anyone's interested in Gotthard I just got through my first listen of their newie and initial response is "meh!"

Solid stuff and Nic does a good job but for me the magic is gone and the songs aren't there for the most part.  Not a patch on G, Domino Effect, Lipservice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 09, 2014, 08:51:56 AM
G was the album I gave up on Gotthard. :lol The first two albums are the only ones I like at all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 09, 2014, 08:55:58 AM
That'd be right  ;D  The debut is a classic but I wasn't that rapt in Dial Hard which I think was the 2nd........I think half of G is fantastic and after that they went too soft and lost their mojo - they won me back with Lipservice (Live In Switzerland shows those songs much better) and Domino Effect and from there they've lost me again.    When they were good though they were bloody good
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AM
Yeah, Dial Hard was the second one. I didn't like it as much as the first one, but it still had a fair share of good stuff on it. After that, the 90s rot started to set in. :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 09, 2014, 09:05:21 AM
Don't tell me you don't like In The Name??  (from G)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFhgDEsprhY&feature=kp

HUGE song - I used to use it as a "stereo tester"

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 09, 2014, 09:12:35 AM
That was pretty good. Maybe I gave up on the album before I ever got to that track.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 09, 2014, 09:23:08 AM
Looks like you missed the "good half" I was talking about - most of which is after half way (too many songs on it).

Here's another that could easily have made it onto the debut.

Ride On

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_7lws80HCc&feature=kp
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 09, 2014, 09:26:45 AM
Well damn, sounds like you're right. I'll have to give the album another chance tomorrow.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on April 11, 2014, 02:34:18 AM
I just wanna give some love for Thunder. Always thought they were an awesome live band.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 11, 2014, 03:03:57 AM
I just wanna give some love for Thunder. Always thought they were an awesome live band.

First album was immense but I felt it was diminishing returns after that in the studio. Saw them live dozens of times and yes they were a great live band. Danny Bowes is still a great singer.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2014, 06:45:59 AM
New JSS snippit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fb7K_CqA0D8

With Mike Orlando.  Not really digging this at all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 11, 2014, 07:52:46 AM
oh for petes sake, this sounds like more Adrenaline Mob shit
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 11, 2014, 11:33:40 AM
My constant disappointment in new releases is becoming the norm but yeah - that Soto doesn't do anything much for me (although Orlando is only writer/guest on one or two tracks I think) and I'm just through my first listen to the new H.E.A.T. and it ain't a patch on Address The Nation.

The first track Point of No Return is a ripper but it's all downhill from there.  I rated it 72% vs something well up into the 90%'s for Address The Nation.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 11, 2014, 12:10:06 PM
Listened to the new Heat this morning and agree with Brent. It was ok but Address The Nation was a new classic for me, up there with Danger Danger's Revolve, treat's Coup de Grace and Crazy Lixx' s New Religion. Didn't rate their first two albums at all so this one is better than those. The Britney Spears rip off was a wtf moment.

As soon as I saw Mike Orlando's name attached to the JSS I shuddered, in a bad way. Not heard the track yet but not expecting great things, even with that mighty voice attached. Good thing he's only on a couple of tracks. More talented people on other tracks luckily.

The new Gotthard is only ok too. Better than the last but not the 3 that came before that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2014, 04:13:53 PM
oh for petes sake, this sounds like more Adrenaline Mob shit

I know, and that's exactly what it sounds like too.  I wish he stuck too the style he did on Damage Control, this does sound shit.


RE: Heat, melodicrock gave it a 100% rating.  I only heard the single and didn't like it.  I still have it on order though.  Address the Nation was a classic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 11, 2014, 05:10:33 PM
oh for petes sake, this sounds like more Adrenaline Mob shit

I know, and that's exactly what it sounds like too.  I wish he stuck too the style he did on Damage Control, this does sound shit.


RE: Heat, melodicrock gave it a 100% rating.  I only heard the single and didn't like it.  I still have it on order though.  Address the Nation was a classic.

Listened to the JSS and whilst it wasn't as bad as i feared it wasn't very good for a lead off track either. One dimensional bollox and a waste of JSS. And Orlando. I can hear the solo already. And his tone is shit.

Listened to some more Heat and its better. Not 100% ffs though.

Th new Dynazty has grown on me a bit but again, not a patch on the last one. Last 2-3 songs are very good though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 11, 2014, 05:35:04 PM
whats the background on Orlando; wikipedia didnt have much.

I listened to this song again, to me it sounds identical to AM.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2014, 05:50:31 PM
whats the background on Orlando; wikipedia didnt have much.

I listened to this song again, to me it sounds identical to AM.

As far as I know, he's pretty much unknown before AB.  Don't know how he has become so popular.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 11, 2014, 06:39:21 PM
Lets start a petition to get him out of Soto and AM, and replace him with Kade.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 12, 2014, 04:19:51 AM
whats the background on Orlando; wikipedia didnt have much.

I listened to this song again, to me it sounds identical to AM.

As far as I know, he's pretty much unknown before AB.  Don't know how he has become so popular.

First I saw of him was a few years ago on Youtube just playing ridiculously fast with no tone or melody to speak of.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2014, 05:35:32 AM
Lets start a petition to get him out of Soto and AM, and replace him with Kade.

Where do I sign?  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2014, 04:00:41 AM
Man, new Magnum is a total snoozefest.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2014, 05:03:39 AM
So many awesome new releases at the moment I don't know where to start...............yes I do , the 80's and 90's  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2014, 05:08:12 AM
So many awesome new releases at the moment I don't know where to start...............yes I do , the 80's and 90's  ;D

I like the way you think. :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 13, 2014, 06:48:38 AM
Man, new Magnum is a total snoozefest.

I was trying to listen to a sample and couldn't even finish it
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2014, 04:04:50 PM
The last three for me have been quite terrible.  Princess Arrow was a really nice return for the band with some great songs and then Moonking just blew it out of the water, that's a terrific album.  After that it's just been dull and boring and this new one is the same.  It's just so plodding, slow and lacks decent melodies.  Clarkin should retire and Bob should stick to solo material IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2014, 05:37:30 PM
FWIW rumours are circulating that the previously hinted at 40 date 40th Anniversary (and farewell) tour for AC/DC will not go ahead and that they will announce their retirement in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2014, 07:07:21 PM
FWIW rumours are circulating that the previously hinted at 40 date 40th Anniversary (and farewell) tour for AC/DC will not go ahead and that they will announce their retirement in the not too distant future.

I have no problems with this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2014, 07:36:21 PM
 ;D  - me neither really.   They've had a good innings and as dementia sets in they might forget that song they play over and over  :laugh:   
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: rickhawk80 on April 14, 2014, 08:05:04 PM
FWIW rumours are circulating that the previously hinted at 40 date 40th Anniversary (and farewell) tour for AC/DC will not go ahead and that they will announce their retirement in the not too distant future.

They've done more than hint about it -- Brian Johnson said in the last issue of Classic Rock that they will be doing a 40-show 40th anniversary tour.  Where are you hearing it's not going to happen after all?   ???
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2014, 09:05:07 PM
Just Googled it and ther story hit The Australian about 30 mins after I posted..............read for yourself.  Still rumour but seems pretty solid.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/acdcs-40th-anniversary-tour-under-doubt-due-to-health-concerns/story-e6frg6n6-1226884658411
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: rickhawk80 on April 14, 2014, 09:24:52 PM
I hate hearing this.  I also wonder about the band member who has serious health issues -- can't seem to find any details on who or what this is about.....   :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 14, 2014, 09:30:15 PM
FWIW rumours are circulating that the previously hinted at 40 date 40th Anniversary (and farewell) tour for AC/DC will not go ahead and that they will announce their retirement in the not too distant future.

They'd be ending on a high note at least. Black Ice did very well, and the tour was really successful (at least here, playing something like 6 shows at the Stadium that holds 50k people or so).
Since they released Black Ice, there have been talks of them retiring, so this doesn't come as a shock. They were still good when I saw them, but they're tuning down a half step now (a little late for that to help poor old Brian), and even Angus wasn't quite up to his usual high standard. It would be best to end now rather than to run themselves into the ground. I'm sure they've got enough money at this point, and if not, the royalty cheques will keep them going.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2014, 09:31:45 PM
FWIW a bloke I know down here who is pretty well connected (reviewer/interviewer) says it's Malcolm - blood clot on the brain or similar.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 14, 2014, 09:37:17 PM
Shit, that doesn't sound good at all. I hope that's wrong.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2014, 05:11:35 AM
FWIW a bloke I know down here who is pretty well connected (reviewer/interviewer) says it's Malcolm - blood clot on the brain or similar.

Damn, that sucks.  It's probably for the best they stop now.  Especially as Blob said, go out on a big high.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2014, 05:14:20 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/conflicting-reports-surface-regarding-acdcs-future/
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on April 15, 2014, 05:23:44 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/conflicting-reports-surface-regarding-acdcs-future/
He "forgot how to play"...that is just horrible. :(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 15, 2014, 05:25:23 AM
Yeah, it sounds pretty damn serious.  Health is more important.  The band have nothing to prove and should focus on Malcom's issue.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 15, 2014, 06:07:20 AM
Yeah, it sounds pretty damn serious.  Health is more important.  The band have nothing to prove and should focus on Malcom's issue.

Yup, it's been a very impressive run
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: rickhawk80 on April 15, 2014, 07:05:36 AM
I hate to hear it's happening this way with health complications for Malcolm.  Class move by the rest of the band, though, if they're deciding (accurately) that no Malcolm = no AC/DC.

What's less classy about all this is the son of their first singer who has had nothing to do with their successful career being the one to break such huge and personal news on fucking Twitter.  What an asshole.....
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 17, 2014, 12:24:32 PM
There's some pretty cool interviews with producers here

https://thedoublestop.com/

The Max Norman one was really good (Ozzy, Lynch Mob, Megadeth etc.....) especially the story of the issues with Oni Logan and how he had to use retuned and re-timed demos to complete the recording.

Looking forward to Beau Hill next.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 17, 2014, 11:23:18 PM
New song/video from Neal Schon's latest project. I really love the style they're doing here, and it's what I was hoping for. The song itself is solid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBwFb3aYXnw
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on April 18, 2014, 04:06:21 AM
Yeah solid song, I really do like Neal's voice, with he'd use it a little more with Journey.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 18, 2014, 04:14:13 AM
I think Neal sounds pretty ordinary and heavily produced to get anything decent - on the other hand Marco sounds strong and seems to have a Lenny Kravitz thang going.  I get the feeling this has been inspired by the success of Winery Dogs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 18, 2014, 04:54:24 AM
I think Neal sounds pretty ordinary and heavily produced to get anything decent - on the other hand Marco sounds strong and seems to have a Lenny Kravitz thang going.  I get the feeling this has been inspired by the success of Winery Dogs.

Are you only talking about vocals in regards to Schon? If so then I agree. I also got a strong Kravitz sound from Marco's voice. I dig it.
I doubt it was inspired by Winery Dogs. It's not like the "power trio" concept is anything new, it's just coincidence. I prefer the players here anyway, and so far the result too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 18, 2014, 05:03:51 AM
Not sure I understand your question Blob ?   I said that Schon sounds ordinary and on the other hand Marco sounds strong.

I will check this release out - also good to see Deen potentially stretching himself a bit more than on Journey stuff.  He's a great drummer and singer.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 18, 2014, 05:05:44 AM
Not sure I understand your question Blob ?   I said that Schon sounds ordinary and on the other hand Marco sounds strong.

And I was just checking that you were referring to vocals in response to gazinwales' post. Because the guitar work great, but I agree his vocals were ordinary. He's a backup vocalist, not a lead vocalist. Marco and Deen are both strong vocalists though, so I hope to hear both prominently.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 18, 2014, 05:08:48 AM
OK I see what you mean - yeah I wasn't referring to the guitar sound.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 18, 2014, 06:29:04 AM
Found it stayed around too long to be honest. The bits with Neal singing were pretty ordinary and went on too long. Would have been better as a short bridge.
I was waiting for the solo and tbh found it rather meh. Marco's parts were the best bit. Still, there's enough there to give it more listens and for the album to be good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: yorost on April 19, 2014, 01:02:04 AM
I get the feeling this has been inspired by the success of Winery Dogs.
Definitely not, this album was recorded in 2011. He did Journey: Eclipse, Schon: The Calling, and Schon: SO U all in one session. This was just pushed to being the last one released.

I was least hopeful for this release, out of those three, but these videos give me a renewed interest. What You Need is much more interesting than I expected and Castronovo isn't holding it back like he tends to do in Journey and did with Soul Sirkus. ...if you can get ahold of both version of Soul Sirkus: World Play, it's amazing how much a drummer can bring down a band (Castronovo version where he was clearly not with the program vs the Donati rerecord).

----------

Count me as a fan of Schon on vox, it might not be amazing but is very pleasant to make up for it. Always felt he has a very similar vocal quality to his Santana and Journey bandmate, Gregg Rolie. I've been spinning Schon & Hammer: Untold Passion a ton lately, after writing it off years ago, he's got a nice voice. Which reminds me....

Schon also has in the bag a double cd with Jan Hammer and Steve Smith. Not sure how they all split duties on it, though.

Santana IV, as they've dubbed it, is well under the way, too. Sounds like a Journey/Santana tour is likely for 2015, and I will be stoked if Rolie plays with both bands.

Also, there have been hints from Schon that Journey has started working on a new album, but, unfortunately it didn't sounds like they would keep going (no surprise) the direction of Eclipse. Cain made it very clear he did not like the album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 19, 2014, 01:16:03 AM
I loved about half of Eclipse, but I'm glad if they're not continuing down that path. The other half was too moody, and it lost some of the melody. There are certainly elements I'd like them to retain though. I've enjoyed both Arnel Journey albums, so I'll be happy to have any new Journey album, whatever direction they take it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: yorost on April 19, 2014, 01:25:49 AM
It'll be curious where they go, he mentioned going back to r&b/rock, which scares me because I think Raised on Radio. ...but he also mentioned Separate Ways, so I'm at least hopeful it won't be a worst case scenario. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 19, 2014, 01:30:28 AM
It'll be curious where they go, he mentioned going back to r&b/rock, which scares me because I think Raised on Radio. ...but he also mentioned Separate Ways, so I'm at least hopeful it won't be a worst case scenario. :lol

Raised on Radio counts as rock? :lol
If they did more stuff like Separate Ways, melodic yet harder rocking and concise, I'd be thrilled, as that's my favourite Journey song. And more stuff like the rockier tracks of Escape would be good too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: yorost on April 19, 2014, 01:32:27 AM
Raised on Radio counts as rock? :lol
Touch :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2014, 06:33:15 AM
New song/video from Neal Schon's latest project. I really love the style they're doing here, and it's what I was hoping for. The song itself is solid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBwFb3aYXnw

Man, this felt long and drawn out.  I was waiting for it to end to be honest.  I liked the instrumental track that they released, but this not so much.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on April 20, 2014, 04:12:56 PM
Yeah it seems just to drag on a bit, without really going anywhere and some dodgy lyrics too boot.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 24, 2014, 07:54:26 AM
Wow - Accept are touring Australia in November !  never thought I'd see that................they're doing Brisbane too Kade. :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 24, 2014, 12:59:12 PM
Wow - Accept are touring Australia in November !  never thought I'd see that................they're doing Brisbane too Kade. :tup

Looking very much forward to the new Accept and the new Priest.  I know they wont dissapoint
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 24, 2014, 04:27:47 PM
Wow - Accept are touring Australia in November !  never thought I'd see that................they're doing Brisbane too Kade. :tup

Yeah I saw that.  :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 25, 2014, 09:18:48 AM
Just suffered through an unfortunate birthday (40  :-\  .........and crossed my thousand post milestone on the same day :) ) and having a quiet grog and pizza night tomorrow (tonight - Saturday - actually) and for once...............no kids and I'm insisting on controlling the music.  I have about 8 hours to fill in assuming my sister hangs around til all hours as usual in a vain attempt to get me pissed.   The (small) crowd is mostly people my age - a mix of those who sorta know their rock , those who would really only know Aussie/classic rock and a few who are clueless .  Metal really wouldn't go over that well , so I've come up with an idea of a mix of classic rock/hair metal/melodic rock with an alphabetical theme through the night...................so basically running from A-Z of band names and trying to get a mix that will keep both me and the crowd happy with just enough obscure/tongue in cheek stuff to keep things interesting.

Here's the list.


Back In Black   AC/DC   
Walk This Way   Aerosmith   
Dream On   Aerosmith   
Freedom   Alice Cooper   
Bound for Glory    Angry      
Rush You   Baby Animals   
Dreams in the Dark   Badlands   
Tough Times Don't Last   Bad English   
Fearless   Bad Company   
Speed   Billy Idol      
Mama Mia   The Black Sweden
Wild Is The Wind   Bon Jovi
Love Is War   Bon Jovi
More Than A Feeling   Boston   
Heat Of The Night   Bryan Adams   
The Flame   Cheap Trick
The Pull    Chicago      
Through The Years   C.I.T.A.   
Run to Paradise   Choirboys   
Nobody's Fool   Cinderella   
Dying For Love   Crown Of Thorns   
High Enough   Damn Yankees   
Ghost Of Love   Danger Danger   
   
Abandon   Dare   
Just Like Paradise   David Lee Roth
Sultans Of Swing   Dire Straits   
Hysteria   Def Leppard   
Dream Warriors   Dokken      
China Grove   Doobie Brothers
Pull Me Under   Dream Theater   
The Final Countdown   Europe   
Get The Funk Out   Extreme   
Bring Me to Life   Evanescence   
Wings Of Love   Find Me   
All She Wrote   FireHouse   
Rhiannon   Fleetwood Mac   
Tough it out   FM   FM   
Heart Turns To Stone   Foreigner   
Rockin' Is Ma' Business   The Four Horsemen   
Don't Take Me For A Loser   Gary Moore   
Over The Hills And Far Away   Gary Moore   
It Takes Two   Giant   
Burn   Glenn Hughes      
Turn Your Love Around   George Benson   
Sister Moon   Gotthard   
Once Bitten Twice Shy   Great White   
Stick It   Great White   
Welcome to the Jungle   Guns N' Roses   
Living On The Run   H.E.A.T      
Love Leads The Way.   Hardline
Familiar Taste Of Poison    Halestorm   
No Justice   Harem Scarem   
Who Will You Run To   Heart      
What's Forever For   House Of Lords   
Temptation   Hurricane   
Shot at My Heart   Icon   
Working Class Man   Jimmy Barnes   
One Big Rush   Joe Satriani   
Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)   Journey   
Rebel Heart   Kane Roberts      
Carry On Wayward Son   Kansas   
Dream On    King Kobra   
Detroit Rock City   Kiss   
Over The Edge   L.A. Guns
Stairway To Heaven   Led Zeppelin   
Living In The Gray   Lillian Axe   
Black Widow   Lita Ford   
Playing To Win   Little River Band   
Midnight Blue   Lou Gramm      
Wicked Sensation   Lynch Mob   
The Unforgiven   Metallica      
Save Our Love   Michael Bolton
Rock The Nation   Montrose   
Wild Side   Motley Crue      
Daddy, Brother, Lover, Little   Mr Big   
After The Rain   Nelson   
Don't Tell Me You Love Me   Night Ranger   
I Want My Tears Back   Nightwish   
Welcome To The World   Noiseworks   
Shot In The Dark   Ozzy Osbourne
Fallen Angel   Poison      
Fooled Again   Pseudo Echo   
Silent Lucidity   Queensrche   
Cum On Feel The Noise   Quiet Riot   
Nobody Rides For Free (bonus)   Ratt   
Higher Ground   Red Hot Chili Peppers   
Ballad Of Youth   Richie Sambora      
No Easy Way Out   Robert Tepper   
Rock'n'Roll Outlaw   Rose Tattoo
Stand Back   ROXUS   
Don't Call Me Dude  Scatterbrain   
Just Like Tiger Woods   Steel Panther   
Eye Of The Tiger   Survivor
Crazy   Talisman   
Paradise   Tesla   
Rock `N` Roll Away   TNT   
Hold The Line   Toto   
Tears In The Rain   Triumph   
We're Not Gonna Take It   Twisted Sister   
Forever Young   Tyketto   
Everything About You   Ugly Kid Joe   
You Really Got Me   Van Halen   
Dreams    Van Halen   
Edge Of A Broken Heart    Vixen   
Uncle Tom's Cabin   Warrant
Little Fighter   White Lion
Here I Go Again   Whitesnake
Now You're Gone   Whitesnake
Spell I'm Under   Winger   
Don't Be Afraid Of The Dark   Y&T   
Sharp Dressed Man   ZZ Top   


Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 25, 2014, 09:32:43 AM
Thats a pretty solid and safe list.  Just dont mix up that Steel Panther song with "Asian Hooker" lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 25, 2014, 10:20:28 AM
Belated happy birthday Brent.  It's still Friday here though!  Welcome to the uber-fogey club.  It ain't so bad.

Solid list of bands/tracks.  Although the lack of Skid Row, Pretty Maids and Slaughter makes me  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 25, 2014, 10:22:48 AM
Ah...........good one (and thanks).   Will add 18 and Life , Real Love and Clay (gotta keep it relatively wimpy for the most part)  :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 25, 2014, 11:05:31 AM
Ah...........good one (and thanks).   Will add 18 and Life , Real Love and Clay (gotta keep it relatively wimpy for the most part)  :tup

 :tup  Though I've always been partial to Home Is Where The Heart Is.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on April 25, 2014, 03:10:55 PM
40 and reminiscing!  Welcome to the club Brent.  Solid list.  I need to make an 80's playlist soon when I mow my damn lawn every week soon.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 25, 2014, 03:30:29 PM
Don't forget for the times you cut the grass too!

:heybaby:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on April 25, 2014, 03:36:41 PM
Don't forget for the times you cut the grass too!

:heybaby:

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Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2014, 06:00:06 AM
That's a fuckin great list.  Perhaps a few more Aussie songs wouldn't hurt.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2014, 05:37:38 AM
The LRS album is pretty damn good.  Nice and smooth.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 30, 2014, 03:05:26 PM

Here's the list.
Back In Black   AC/DC   
Dream On   Aerosmith   
Freedom   Alice Cooper   
Wild Is The Wind   Bon Jovi
More Than A Feeling   Boston      
Dream Warriors   Dokken      
China Grove   Doobie Brothers
Pull Me Under   Dream Theater      
Don't Take Me For A Loser   Gary Moore   
Over The Hills And Far Away   Gary Moore   
Burn   Glenn Hughes            
Carry On Wayward Son   Kansas   
Detroit Rock City   Kiss   
Stairway To Heaven   Led Zeppelin      
Shot In The Dark   Ozzy Osbourne
Paradise   Tesla   

Here's my faves of the list.

Welcome to the 40's!!

Wild Is The Wind is such an awesome song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 30, 2014, 03:07:53 PM

Here's the list.
Back In Black   AC/DC   
Dream On   Aerosmith   
Freedom   Alice Cooper   
Wild Is The Wind   Bon Jovi
More Than A Feeling   Boston      
Dream Warriors   Dokken      
China Grove   Doobie Brothers
Pull Me Under   Dream Theater      
Don't Take Me For A Loser   Gary Moore   
Over The Hills And Far Away   Gary Moore   
Burn   Glenn Hughes            
Carry On Wayward Son   Kansas   
Detroit Rock City   Kiss   
Stairway To Heaven   Led Zeppelin      
Shot In The Dark   Ozzy Osbourne
Paradise   Tesla   

Here's my faves of the list.

Welcome to the 40's!!

Wild Is The Wind is such an awesome song.

Thanks TAC - and yeah , Wild Is The Wind is everything I like about BJ in one song and possibly my favourite of theirs.  New Jersey was about the end of the road for me though as far as they're concerned.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 30, 2014, 03:10:15 PM
Yeah, New Jersey is a really solid album. Love Stick To Your Guns as well. Saw them a couple of times on this tour. A great live show back then. But yes, the line on Bon Jovi is clearly drawn with New Jersey.

Also Paradise is easily my favorite Tesla track.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on April 30, 2014, 03:19:14 PM
Blood on Blood is my favorite non hit from NJ.  Born To Be My Baby is my favorite from it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 30, 2014, 03:20:30 PM
Blood on Blood is my favorite non hit from NJ.  Born To Be My Baby is my favorite from it.

Good choices too - anything but Bad Medicine.   Everyone bar me seems to love it but I just find it a bit on the cringe worthy side.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on April 30, 2014, 03:23:27 PM
I always felt the same with that song myself.  It's like that with Def Lep too.  The big anthem. "HEY HEY" stuff doesn't do it for me.  no thank you to Rock of Ages but a big hell yeah to , Too Late ect...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 30, 2014, 03:40:49 PM
Blood On Blood  :facepalm:

Forgot to mention that. It's only my favorite Bon Jovi song.

You know what song it always reminded me of? Thin Lizzy's It's Getting Dangerous.

And they were big Thin Lizzy fans. They did a great version of The Boys Are Back In Town around this time for the Stairway To Heaven/Highway To Hell Compilation.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on April 30, 2014, 03:44:20 PM
Glad to help you Tim! :lol

Tim, you have to see Bon Jovi opening up for the Scorps on Love At First sting tour?  That next day i went out and bought the first album.  Same with Queensryche opening for Kiss on the Anilmalize tour.  Next day I went out and bought The Warning.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 30, 2014, 04:01:42 PM
Glad to help you Tim! :lol

Tim, you have to see Bon Jovi opening up for the Scorps on Love At First sting tour?  That next day I  went out and bought the first album.  Same with Queensryche opening for Kiss on the Anilmalize tour.  Next day I went out and bought The Warning.

I did. Saw them in Providence. I remember buying the Bon Jovi sleeveless sweatshirt (80's WTF?  :facepalm:) I also bought the album the next day. They put on a great show. The Scorps show was a Saturday night. My buddies and I went out the night before and saw This Is Spinal Tap in the theater! Heck of a weekend for a 15 year old TAC!


I remember the Kiss/QR tour. My parents would let me go all the way out to Worcester yet. I was already into QR by then. I had to listen to WAAF's Concert Recreation! (Remember those?)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on April 30, 2014, 04:03:33 PM
I was just talking to my friend about the WAAF Concert Recreation!!!  Half deaf from the show listening and blabbing about the show!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 30, 2014, 06:26:50 PM
Just got through my first listen of the new Winger and Three Lions and I can't say I'm over enthused about either. 

On my scale (where as a guide 70% would be considered above average and worthy of a listen) I rated Winger at 75% and Three Lions at 67%.

The Winger is undoubtedly a good album - very solid couple of opening tracks but then falls away pretty badly until track 6 (Ever Wonder) which , unusually for me (given it's a ballad), is my favourite on the disc.  So Long China follows which is also very good , then another couple of weaker tracks and the final two are very good and again a ballad shines there.  On the whole I think the slower more atmospheric tracks are great , as are the opening couple of rockers + So Long China , but the rest leaves me a bit underwhelmed. I found Karma much better overall.

Three Lions............well if this is the best Vinny Burns can do after an extended hiatus then he should hang it up.  There's nothing really bad on it , but there's also nothing really good (perhaps with the exception of Kathmandu) .  The song writing is dial-it-in , by the numbers.....whatever you want to call it.   As I was listening to it I had the feeling it really reminded me of something and in the end I think I've figured it out -  it sounds like one of Newman's weaker efforts.  Decent enough but for those with any experience of this type of music over the years it really is mostly derivative shite.  Vinny really doesn't do much on the guitar either , even on the instrumental which is a bore.  Very disappointing.

The LRS album that Kade referred to seems to be getting bagged around the traps but to me that actually has some relatively fresh melodic ideas on it , so it seems we're hearing something in it that others are not.

I really hope a new release grabs me soon or I might just stop bothering - the strike rate (even for bands with a good track record) is abysmal at the moment.  At the very least I'm going to have to start putting more time into trying before I buy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 30, 2014, 10:09:53 PM
I could be listening to the new Winger album right now? I better get on that!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on May 01, 2014, 01:37:58 AM
I'm listening to that Three Lions album right now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 01, 2014, 01:42:17 AM
Listened (more like skimmed) the new Winger album. As I expected, Rat Race is going to be the best off the album. A couple of other good songs too, but still too much srs stuff.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2014, 05:06:07 AM
The Winger samples didn't over excite me, but I'm still waiting for it in the mail.

I just came home to Three Lions in my mailbox also.  Will post my thoughts are a couple of listens. 

I have the LRS in the car at the moment, and yeah, it's your standard run of the mill Frontiers AOR album, but as Brent said, there some fresh things in here, and the songs flow well and breathe and have a great atmosphere.  It's more on the lighter side, but it works fine, so I don't really have many complaints.  I LOVE La Verdi's voice.  Definitely have to check more of his work.

I also got the Pretty Maids the same time as LRS, but I haven't listened to that one yet.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 01, 2014, 01:26:42 PM
The Winger samples didn't over excite me, but I'm still waiting for it in the mail.

I just came home to Three Lions in my mailbox also.  Will post my thoughts are a couple of listens. 

I have the LRS in the car at the moment, and yeah, it's your standard run of the mill Frontiers AOR album, but as Brent said, there some fresh things in here, and the songs flow well and breathe and have a great atmosphere.  It's more on the lighter side, but it works fine, so I don't really have many complaints.  I LOVE La Verdi's voice.  Definitely have to check more of his work.

I also got the Pretty Maids the same time as LRS, but I haven't listened to that one yet.

Listening to music sounds like your full time job lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 01, 2014, 03:05:04 PM
I like the Winger. It's like a Kip solo album with heavy guitars strapped on but its good. Its no Pull or even In The Heart Of The Young but better than IV and Karma. Maybe.
The LRS was pretty bland to me. Disappointed because I love that 21 Guns album.
The Three Lions I haven't listened to properly yet.

The Paul Laine Darkhorse album is up on Spotify- its not bad if you can stomach the country-isms. Great voice still though.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2014, 04:02:11 PM
The Winger samples didn't over excite me, but I'm still waiting for it in the mail.

I just came home to Three Lions in my mailbox also.  Will post my thoughts are a couple of listens. 

I have the LRS in the car at the moment, and yeah, it's your standard run of the mill Frontiers AOR album, but as Brent said, there some fresh things in here, and the songs flow well and breathe and have a great atmosphere.  It's more on the lighter side, but it works fine, so I don't really have many complaints.  I LOVE La Verdi's voice.  Definitely have to check more of his work.

I also got the Pretty Maids the same time as LRS, but I haven't listened to that one yet.

Listening to music sounds like your full time job lol

 :lol If only.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 01, 2014, 05:07:17 PM
The Winger samples didn't over excite me, but I'm still waiting for it in the mail.

I just came home to Three Lions in my mailbox also.  Will post my thoughts are a couple of listens. 

I have the LRS in the car at the moment, and yeah, it's your standard run of the mill Frontiers AOR album, but as Brent said, there some fresh things in here, and the songs flow well and breathe and have a great atmosphere.  It's more on the lighter side, but it works fine, so I don't really have many complaints.  I LOVE La Verdi's voice.  Definitely have to check more of his work.

I also got the Pretty Maids the same time as LRS, but I haven't listened to that one yet.

Listening to music sounds like your full time job lol

 :lol If only.

Actually Kade, it's not the amount of music that you buy and listen to, but it's your ability to break it all down and remember what's what. That and your open mindedness.

Personally, my ears start to glaze over and I tend to make quick first impression judgements.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 01, 2014, 11:10:36 PM
After a few more listens of the Winger album, tracks 1 and 3 are the keepers. 2 good songs from this album, 2 good songs from the last album. Better than nothing. :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2014, 06:28:11 AM
The Winger samples didn't over excite me, but I'm still waiting for it in the mail.

I just came home to Three Lions in my mailbox also.  Will post my thoughts are a couple of listens. 

I have the LRS in the car at the moment, and yeah, it's your standard run of the mill Frontiers AOR album, but as Brent said, there some fresh things in here, and the songs flow well and breathe and have a great atmosphere.  It's more on the lighter side, but it works fine, so I don't really have many complaints.  I LOVE La Verdi's voice.  Definitely have to check more of his work.

I also got the Pretty Maids the same time as LRS, but I haven't listened to that one yet.

Listening to music sounds like your full time job lol

 :lol If only.

Actually Kade, it's not the amount of music that you buy and listen to, but it's your ability to break it all down and remember what's what. That and your open mindedness.

Personally, my ears start to glaze over and I tend to make quick first impression judgements.

That was my problem also when many new releases were coming at the same time.  These days, I fully concentrate on one full release as much as possible before moving around to others.  It's definitely easier with this type of music than say prog, but it's definitely a challenge. 

It's hard to not be influenced by certain styles when you switch from new release to new release.  That can sometimes be an albums downfall even though, it's not a bad album, something else has pumped you up and put you in the mood for something else. 

Saying that, I have hundreds and hundreds of cd's that I could revisit and they would seem like a brand new album.

After two listens to the Three Lions, I think it's not bad.  Nothing groundbreaking, but it's quite okay.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 02, 2014, 11:11:19 AM
They should put that comment on the advertisements Kade. "Three Lions- It's quite ok"  :lol That'll shift some copies!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2014, 03:48:08 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on May 03, 2014, 12:59:50 AM
I'm really looking forward to the Toto 35th anniversary BR coming in the mail next week.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on May 03, 2014, 10:13:17 PM
So, Three Lions. I'm on board with everyone else. It wasn't bad, but there's nothing that really stood out either. It definitely dropped in quality as it went along, too. Least favourites were Two Hearts Beat As One, which sounded like someone had muted the guitar tracks and forgot about it, and Sicilian Kiss, which was just boring. Trouble in a Red Dress and Twisted Soul were the highlights. Despite a lackluster first listen, I think most of this album will grow, so definitely listening to it again soon.

I just started the L.R.S album and Our Love To Stay is giving me very strong Never Walk Away (Journey) vibes. :lol Especially that chorus.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2014, 04:07:56 AM
So, Three Lions. I'm on board with everyone else. It wasn't bad, but there's nothing that really stood out either. It definitely dropped in quality as it went along, too. Least favourites were Two Hearts Beat As One, which sounded like someone had muted the guitar tracks and forgot about it, and Sicilian Kiss, which was just boring. Trouble in a Red Dress and Twisted Soul were the highlights. Despite a lackluster first listen, I think most of this album will grow, so definitely listening to it again soon.

I just started the L.R.S album and Our Love To Stay is giving me very strong Never Walk Away (Journey) vibes. :lol Especially that chorus.

My opinion of The Three Lions has improved to 'good.'  Agree about the instrumental, what a freakin' load of bullshit that song is. 

There's just great songs and weak songs mixed through which hurts the quality.  Those two you mentioned are the best on the album, but I also like Just A Man (great chorus) and Hellfire Highway.  Don't Let Me Fall is the best of the power ballads.  Everything else can be taken or left.

LRS is still solid, even though it's ballad heavy.  Never Surrender is a direct rip of Robert Sall's Kimball/Jamison song Worth Fighting For.

The Pretty Maids is fantastic.  This band is slowly becoming one of my favs at the moment.  Even though this is a compilation, it's still a solid collection of 12 songs, love it.  Can't wait to see what the boys come up with next.  Looks like I'll have to invest in the rest of their back catalog.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 04, 2014, 06:20:37 AM
I'll agree on Pretty Maids. It's damn solid. Since I don't have the entire back collection, I'm ok with the re-recorded sings... There's only a few that I already had/know.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on May 04, 2014, 12:28:19 PM
Brother Firetribe are back after some 4 years with a new album and video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5nXG_jmTBY
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 06, 2014, 06:10:12 AM
Night Ranger going a bit country.  :\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vRty6qwGzI
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 06, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
Night Ranger going a bit country.  :\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vRty6qwGzI

Great song. Cool solo. Night Ranger are on a bit of a roll, and I was no great fan back in the day.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 06, 2014, 01:37:03 PM
New Tesla song sounds pretty good.

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/tesla-so-devine/
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 06, 2014, 04:57:29 PM
New Tesla song sounds pretty good.

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/tesla-so-devine/

yeah band still sounds good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 06, 2014, 07:35:00 PM
New Tesla song sounds pretty good.

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/tesla-so-devine/

yeah band still sounds good.

Uh huh. Now I'm looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2014, 04:33:02 AM
New Tesla song sounds pretty good.

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/tesla-so-devine/

yeah band still sounds good.

Uh huh. Now I'm looking forward to this one.

I've never listened to Tesla before but I must be missing something, as those are some of the worse vocals I've ever heard.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 07, 2014, 06:29:49 AM
I've never listened to Tesla before but I must be missing something, as those are some of the worse vocals I've ever heard.

What the flagnar!?!?!?!  What is this??  I don't even ...

Jeff Keith has a fantastic raspy/bluesy voice.  Sure, he's aged a little (the band was formed in the early 80s, so he's not as good as he was in their hey-day... that's to be expected.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2014, 02:32:29 PM
I've never listened to Tesla before but I must be missing something, as those are some of the worse vocals I've ever heard.

What the flagnar!?!?!?!  What is this??  I don't even ...

Jeff Keith has a fantastic raspy/bluesy voice.  Sure, he's aged a little (the band was formed in the early 80s, so he's not as good as he was in their hey-day... that's to be expected.

Yeah, just one of those bands I never got around to checking out.  I don't want to slag him off as a vocalist just from one song, but IMO those vocals were just awful.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 07, 2014, 02:35:46 PM
Time has not been kind to Jeff Keith's voice.

Wolf, their first four albums are MUST HAVES!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 07, 2014, 02:52:39 PM
Time has not been kind to Jeff Keith's voice.

Wolf, their first four albums are MUST HAVES!

First 3 and 2/3 of BaN certainly.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2014, 03:01:14 PM
Time has not been kind to Jeff Keith's voice.

Wolf, their first four albums are MUST HAVES!

Good, so it's not just me then.  I thought I must have been insane.  I'll add Tesla to the list.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 07, 2014, 03:10:49 PM
Time has not been kind to Jeff Keith's voice.

Wolf, their first four albums are MUST HAVES!

First 3 and 2/3 of BaN certainly.

First, third & fourth and 2/3 of TGRC.  :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 07, 2014, 05:36:26 PM
Time has not been kind to Jeff Keith's voice.

Wolf, their first four albums are MUST HAVES!

First 3 and 2/3 of BaN certainly.

This.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 07, 2014, 06:13:18 PM
I had always been a fan of Tesla but for some reason just had the best of. Got the first three discs earlier this year and they are out fukin standing
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2014, 05:21:30 AM
Sounds like I got some homework to do.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2014, 05:27:43 AM
Came back in here to say that the new Winger is friggin' awesome.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2014, 05:31:01 AM
My nominations - 1 song from each of the first four

Mechanical Rsonance/Modern Day Cowboy - anyone who says this isn't the best from their debut is smokin crack - Rob Ford style
The Great Radio Controversy/Flight to Nowhere - song-for-song, pound-for-pound, one of my favorite albums from the late 80s.  Every song is a B+ or higher.
Psychotic Supper/Edison's Medicine - those guitar wails!
Bust A Nut/Games People Play - for a change of pace.  This album is definitely 4th in this 4 horse race.

Enjoy!

Came back in here to say that the new Winger is friggin' awesome.

Well fuck.  Now I guess I gotta go listen to it!  I was going of of someone's (Blob?) suggestion that it was only 1/2 good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2014, 05:34:40 AM
Will check out some of those tunes Chad.

I can see how people might now be too in love with the Winger, but for some reason I think it's fantastic, which is surprising because the samples didn't give me much at all.

The production is amazing, a lot of variety, it's original and the songs are just really well written and everything seems to have it's place, terrific album.  Also, good to see Roth get a few solos, he's a stellar guitarist.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 08, 2014, 05:56:14 AM
Sounds like I got some homework to do.

I picked my two favorite songs from each of Tesla's first four albums.

From the debut Mechanical Resonance

Cumin' Atcha Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmeE59oSmFw

Changes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtad6FzYw9w

From The Great Radio Controversy

Paradise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8Pg4E3-u10

Yesterdaze Gone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpIa_H6mG2g

From Psychotic Supper

Edison's Medicine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpIa_H6mG2g

Song And Emotion (Dedicated To Steve Clark)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJEewund2zQ

From Bust A Nut

Cry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1bMQKaMZew

Shine Away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BErihnN6ubQ
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2014, 06:09:16 AM
Song and Emotion is freakin' awesome  :hefdaddy  ....probably my favourite of theirs but TGRC gets my album vote.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 08, 2014, 06:13:27 AM
Mechanical Rsonance/Modern Day Cowboy - anyone who says this isn't the best from their debut is smokin crack - Rob Ford style

I still remember the first time I heard Tesla. I was driving back to college after a weekend at home, and I heard this incredible song on the radio.  I could not believe how awesome the track was. I was waiting until it finished to see who it was, but the DJ played something else and never mentioned it. When I got to my dorm almost an hour later, I literally called the radio station to find out WFT that song was.
It was Modern Day Cowboy.

Bought the album the next day, and saw them open for DLR a couple of months later.

Song and Emotion is freakin' awesome  :hefdaddy  ....probably my favourite of theirs but TGRC gets my album vote.

I've always had TGRC at the bottom. Definitely taking MR and PS over it and I say that Bust A Nut is severely underrated.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2014, 06:17:53 AM
I rate all of the first 3 very highly so I wouldn't argue the point - to me Mechanical Resonance is very close - Psychotic Supper has many of my favourite songs of theirs (incl.  Freedom Slaves, Edison's Medicine) but also a bit more in the way of filler IMHO.  I don't think you can go too far wrong with any of them though.

I'd rate Bust a Nut and Into The Now a step down but still great albums.  I have a mix tape somewhere of B sides and unreleased demos........can't remember what it contains or how good it is .  Will track it down and see if I think there's anything of interest.

FTR Modern Day Cowboy is my fave off the debut too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2014, 06:20:18 AM
Just had a quick listen to Modern Day Cowboy and Changes.  Really solid.  Reminds me heavily of Dokken, which is a good thing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 08, 2014, 06:28:08 AM
Just had a quick listen to Modern Day Cowboy and Changes.  Really solid.  Reminds me heavily of Dokken, which is a good thing.

I think they were much better than Dokken,  More of a classic rock band. I've always found them to have a strong 70's Aerosmith influence.

I've always said that Tesla was a 70's band with an 80's production. They are NOT a hair band, even though they came out during the same era and toured with a lot of those bands. They are a classic hard rock band a la Aerosmith and UFO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2014, 06:29:09 AM
They weren't pretty enough to be a hair band anyways  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 08, 2014, 06:35:21 AM
I saw them probably a half dozen times between 1987 -1994. I actually passed on them a few times because they were opening for Poison.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2014, 06:37:29 AM
Lucky boy - even today they're considered a great, great live band - even if Keith is getting more and more scratchy.  I wish I'd had the chance.

Poison should've been carrying Tesla's bags   :-\
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2014, 06:49:23 AM
Lucky boy - even today they're considered a great, great live band - even if Keith is getting more and more scratchy.  I wish I'd had the chance.

Poison should've been carrying Tesla's bags   :-\

Yup... although that would've been a great bill.  I saw Poison twice - once opening for DLR, and once with Slaughter and the Bullet Boys.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 08, 2014, 06:53:05 AM
I fucking hated Poison. Still do.

Though before they really broke, I almost went to see them in a club in Providence. Kinda wish I had gone to see them there though.
Saw GnR in a small club before Appetite really took off.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 08, 2014, 06:55:35 AM
Well fuck.  Now I guess I gotta go listen to it!  I was going of of someone's (Blob?) suggestion that it was only 1/2 good.

Nope, I was nowhere near that positive on it. :lol It's no better than the last album. Two good songs, that's it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2014, 10:54:51 AM
On this Winger release ... I think I'm somewhere between Roberto and Kade.  More than 2 good songs, but there are a few filler tracks in there.  I'll give it a couple more go's, but I'm not feeling it being purchase-worthy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 08, 2014, 03:12:24 PM
Just had a quick listen to Modern Day Cowboy and Changes.  Really solid.  Reminds me heavily of Dokken, which is a good thing.

I think they were much better than Dokken,  More of a classic rock band. I've always found them to have a strong 70's Aerosmith influence.

I've always said that Tesla was a 70's band with an 80's production. They are NOT a hair band, even though they came out during the same era and toured with a lot of those bands. They are a classic hard rock band a la Aerosmith and UFO.

I'd agree with that TAC.
Got the debut on a recommendation back in the day and loved it. TGRC was initially a bit disappointing but its probably my favourite now. Not a big fan of tracks 2-3 which probably made it harder to get into but its a great album. Makin' Magic was a favourite track but its full of awesome.
PS is great. A couple of lesser tracks but plenty of win.
BaN was another with some poorer songs but plenty of awesomeness.
And they invented Unplugged along the way too. Not bad at all.

I didn't really like Into The Now.

And I agree with Kade, the new Winger is excellent. Classy proggish rock, well played and well produced. Not an instant hit by any stretch but a mature rock album.

And I love Poison. Sorry.  :blush
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2014, 03:21:01 PM
And I agree with Kade, the new Winger is excellent. Classy proggish rock, well played and well produced. Not an instant hit by any stretch but a mature rock album.

Exactly.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 09, 2014, 01:24:34 AM
On this Winger release ... I think I'm somewhere between Roberto and Kade.  More than 2 good songs, but there are a few filler tracks in there.  I'll give it a couple more go's, but I'm not feeling it being purchase-worthy.

Given that we usually represent the two extremes, I would expect this to be the case. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on May 09, 2014, 05:51:50 AM
I still need to get the new Winger.  They have never disappointed me.  Take that Tim! :lol

Always loved the 1st 3 Tesla albums and Tim is dead in with the 70's vibe.  I still love me some Dokken.


Got the Toto 35th Blu Ray and the concert is amazing and they pull our a few 80's tune and they are the highlights of the show.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 09, 2014, 06:18:47 AM
On this Winger release ... I think I'm somewhere between Roberto and Kade.  More than 2 good songs, but there are a few filler tracks in there.  I'll give it a couple more go's, but I'm not feeling it being purchase-worthy.

Given that we usually represent the two extremes, I would expect this to be the case. :lol

It's called contrast.  :tup

EDIT:  What are the only 2 songs on the Winger you like?  Rat Race and .......?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 09, 2014, 07:17:42 AM
On this Winger release ... I think I'm somewhere between Roberto and Kade.  More than 2 good songs, but there are a few filler tracks in there.  I'll give it a couple more go's, but I'm not feeling it being purchase-worthy.

Given that we usually represent the two extremes, I would expect this to be the case. :lol

It's called contrast.  :tup

EDIT:  What are the only 2 songs on the Winger you like?  Rat Race and .......?

The opening track. I decided I like it. I thought I would have been pretty easy to predict. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 09, 2014, 10:18:39 AM
Will someone please let me know when it's safe to come back in this thread?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 09, 2014, 11:09:34 AM
:TAC:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 09, 2014, 04:10:45 PM
On this Winger release ... I think I'm somewhere between Roberto and Kade.  More than 2 good songs, but there are a few filler tracks in there.  I'll give it a couple more go's, but I'm not feeling it being purchase-worthy.

Given that we usually represent the two extremes, I would expect this to be the case. :lol

It's called contrast.  :tup

EDIT:  What are the only 2 songs on the Winger you like?  Rat Race and .......?

The opening track. I decided I like it. I thought I would have been pretty easy to predict. :lol

I thought so, just thought I'd check.

Just listening to the new HEAT.  It's okay, but such a step down from Address the Nation.  It's pretty inconsistent I think.  I lol at how melodicrock.com can give it 100%, wtf?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 09, 2014, 04:35:42 PM
New Unisonic samples.  Sounds fuckin' killer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydYAUV-AA8s
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 09, 2014, 05:27:03 PM
Will someone please let me know when it's safe to come back in this thread?

New Unisonic samples.  Sounds fuckin' killer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydYAUV-AA8s

Thank you!


EDIT: WOW!!! WOW!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: NotePad on May 09, 2014, 08:16:44 PM
Unisonic is not AoR!

Will there be another Place Vendome album?

And like i said in another thread, the new samples sound like they have a power metal style to them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on May 09, 2014, 11:28:22 PM
Found these gems on YT, classics.
If your not old enough to remember these check em out.
https://youtu.be/LI1AhczKvwA
https://youtu.be/cvl7_9dUIZw
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on May 10, 2014, 05:37:30 AM
Tim I wanted to let you know it's still not safe.



I bought the new Winger last night.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 10, 2014, 09:24:30 AM


Will there be another Place Vendome album?

Of it's anything like the last two, I hope not. A waste of talent if you ask me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 10, 2014, 11:07:32 AM


Will there be another Place Vendome album?

Of it's anything like the last two, I hope not. A waste of talent if you ask me.

I wouldn't quite go that far.  They were underwhelming given the lineup, but still somewhat enjoyable
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 10, 2014, 11:14:51 AM
PLayed the LRS and 3 Lions today. Preferred the 3 Lions by a long way. The LRS just sounded like Journey outtakes circa Arrival, but nowhere near as good, or soundalikes from that album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2014, 03:37:19 AM
Unisonic is not AoR!

Will there be another Place Vendome album?

And like i said in another thread, the new samples sound like they have a power metal style to them.

Sorry man if you disapprove of my post.  :lol

Unisonic, I would class as melodic rock/metal, the first album certainly isn't power metal, and I think it fits in this thread, considering the members also.  I agree the new one sounds a lot more like power metal than the first album.

Who knows if there will be another Place Vendome album, they released one late last year so if there is, it'll be a while.


Tim I wanted to let you know it's still not safe.



I bought the new Winger last night.

That was a good move.


PLayed the LRS and 3 Lions today. Preferred the 3 Lions by a long way. The LRS just sounded like Journey outtakes circa Arrival, but nowhere near as good, or soundalikes from that album.

I still really enjoy the LRS, and the Three Lions is growing on me too, some cool tracks on that.

The HEAT falls pretty short IMO.  There's the first track and Inferno which are stellar, but everything else is just good.  Considering the quality of Address the Nation it's a big step backwards, the melodies just don't seem to be there.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2014, 03:44:00 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/guitarist-doug-aldrich-quits-whitesnake/

Aldrich leaves Whitesnake.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2014, 03:48:29 AM
I read that yesterday. I'll always check out whatever Aldrich is doing in future. He did great stuff with Whitesnake.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2014, 04:21:46 AM
Yeah, the last Whitesnake was pretty good.

Interesting to see what Coverdale does now.  Reb Beach is probably kicking Doug out the door, but I doubt Reb will become the main man.  Even though he's a more skillful guitar player, he was better for the Vai stuff but lacks the real blues feel that Aldrich and Sykes had.  That's what made the Beach/Aldrich team so good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 11, 2014, 04:50:00 AM
I read that yesterday. I'll always check out whatever Aldrich is doing in future. He did great stuff with Whitesnake.

Did you check out the Burning Rain album last year? Didn't do it for me. His Whitesnake contributions have been fine but I can't listen to them due to old Cov's ruined voice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2014, 04:59:16 AM
I read that yesterday. I'll always check out whatever Aldrich is doing in future. He did great stuff with Whitesnake.

Did you check out the Burning Rain album last year? Didn't do it for me. His Whitesnake contributions have been fine but I can't listen to them due to old Cov's ruined voice.

Coverdale's voice still sounds great in the studio. I have the Burning Rain album, but the vocals were kinda bland.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2014, 05:13:03 AM
I only heard the single from that album and I though it was pretty shit so I didn't bother checking it out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 11, 2014, 05:14:02 PM
I heard Good to be Bad and thought it was a good comeback album.  Never heard Forevermore
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 11, 2014, 06:12:35 PM
Just listened to Forevermore the other day.  Really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2014, 09:27:30 PM
I heard Good to be Bad and thought it was a good comeback album.  Never heard Forevermore

I think Forevermore was a bit better overall. Still a heavier take on the Whitesnake sound, but a bit more rockin'. If you like one, chances are you'll like the other too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2014, 05:34:01 AM
I think Forevermore is miles better than Good to be Bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 12, 2014, 05:49:29 AM
It's better, but not miles better. They're both pretty solid albums.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2014, 07:06:14 AM
Good to be Bad didn't really do much for me at all to be honest.  I probably should go back and give it a spin.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 12, 2014, 07:09:33 AM
It opens with the weakest tracks, which doesn't help. I've never much liked those opening two tracks. It's much stronger from the title track onwards.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 12, 2014, 09:46:56 AM
Just played Forevermore and enjoyed it. Jsut not loving latter day Dave vocals. He was once so awesome. Age is a terrible thing.  :(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 12, 2014, 09:51:36 AM
I think DC is still sounding great in the studio, especially for a dude of his age. You have to remember that the S/T was over 25 years ago now!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 12, 2014, 11:06:34 AM
I think DC is still sounding great in the studio, especially for a dude of his age. You have to remember that the S/T was over 25 years ago now!

I'm going back alot further than the st. Come And Get I, Saints & Sinners and Slide It In were great albums, albeit a far cry from the more metal direction of 1987. But I can't agree that DC sounds great on the last 2 albums. He's screechy and rough and sounds like he;s singing through gritted teeth on the rockier tracks. He's ok on the more mellow tracks but nowhere near great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 12, 2014, 11:19:54 AM
He's always had a screechy quality to his voice, and I still love the way he sounds on those higher notes, and the timbre of his lower register has perhaps even gotten better with age. And he can still pull off all of the signature Coverdale articulations and style. The man is still great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 12, 2014, 01:40:37 PM
I haven't even bothered to check out anything Whitesnake has done recently.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2014, 03:45:16 PM
Yeah, DC's vocals are pretty much shot.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 12, 2014, 03:47:21 PM
I can handle diminished vocals as long as the music is good enough. But is anything they've done musically recently interesting at all?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2014, 04:37:21 PM
Forevermore was a real nice slab of rock.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 12, 2014, 08:56:46 PM
Yeah, DC's vocals are pretty much shot.

For someone who started in the 80s, I'd say he's better than Dokken and Tate, but not quite as good as Eric Martin or LaBrie.  Somewhere in between.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 12, 2014, 10:05:28 PM
I can handle diminished vocals as long as the music is good enough. But is anything they've done musically recently interesting at all?

Yes. Their last two albums are very good, and DC's still definitely got the pipes. Forevermore is better than Good to be Bad, but they're both worth checking out if you're a Whitesnake fan.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 13, 2014, 05:08:39 AM
Yeah, DC's vocals are pretty much shot.

For someone who started in the 80s, I'd say he's better than Dokken and Tate, but not quite as good as Eric Martin or LaBrie.  Somewhere in between.

He started in the 70s with Deep Purple???? Even Whitesnake started in the 70s. In Europe anyway  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2014, 05:26:36 AM
Yeah, DC's vocals are pretty much shot.

For someone who started in the 80s, I'd say he's better than Dokken and Tate, but not quite as good as Eric Martin or LaBrie.  Somewhere in between.

He started in the 70s with Deep Purple???? Even Whitesnake started in the 70s. In Europe anyway  :biggrin:

Was going to post this.

Come on Chad......Burn??....Stormbringer??
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 13, 2014, 07:05:59 AM
Yeah yeah. It was late... Total brain fart.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on May 15, 2014, 11:18:59 PM
So, Timo Tolkki's new Avalon album is up on Spotify. :)

It's...everything we were expecting it to be. A couple of the songs are almost decent - Jerusalem is Falling and Neon Sirens - if only because they break away from Tolkki's generic copy/paste songwriting a little bit. But otherwise, it's just The Land of New Hope v2.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on May 16, 2014, 05:31:52 AM
lol at the intro to the title track.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 16, 2014, 06:23:38 AM
So, Timo Tolkki's new Avalon album is up on Spotify. :)

It's...everything we were expecting it to be. A couple of the songs are almost decent - Jerusalem is Falling and Neon Sirens - if only because they break away from Tolkki's generic copy/paste songwriting a little bit. But otherwise, it's just The Land of New Hope v2.

Yeah, I don't think I'll even bother with this.  And from me, that's saying something.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 16, 2014, 11:28:24 AM
From Melodicrock.com

BIG CELEBRATION FOR AXEL RUDI PELL:
July 11, 2014 will see Axel Rudi Pell celebrate his 25th Anniversary as a solo artist by performing a very special show at the prestigious Bang Your Head Festival, in Balingen, Germany.
Today Axel reveals all the secrets:

"This year we are celebrating the 25th Anniversary of my solo career, my first solo album Wild Obsession came out in 1989. Therefore, we will play a very special and unique Show at the Bang Your Head!!! Festival in Balingen, Germany, on July 11th to celebrate this and we will headline the festival on that day!
This will be no regular show by far! Of course we will play a lot of songs with the recent AXEL RUDI PELL line-up featuring Johnny Gioeli, Bobby Rondinelli, Ferdy Doernberg, Volker Krawczak and myself, but this will only be 1/3 of the complete show approx... As this year also sees the 30th Recording Anniversary of my former band Steeler (the first record was released in 1984), we will reunite in the original Line-Ups (Peter Burtz, Tom Eder, Jan Yildiral and both Bassplayers Roland Hag and Volker Krawczak) to perform a couple of songs for you. The reunion will only happen on that day and it will be an exclusive one-off!
Furthermore we will have a few ARP vintage members there and we're proud to announce that both Vocalists Rob Rock and Jeff Scott Soto among original Drummer Joerg Michael will enter the stage too to play a few older ARP tracks!
As this ain't enough Lol, I invited some other musical guests and friends to play a few cover tracks together and I'm really proud to announce the following guests in no particular order:

Graham Bonnet (ex- Rainbow, -MSG, -Alcatrazz), Joe Lynn Turner (ex- Rainbow, -Deep Purple, -Yngwie Malmsteen) Doogie White (ex- Rainbow, -Yngwie Malmsteen, Michael Schenker's Temple Of Rock) John Lawton (ex- Uriah Heep, -Lucifers Friend), Tony Carey (ex- Rainbow), Vinny Appice (ex- Black Sabbath, -Heaven & Hell, -DIO).
Be there at this very very special Show, which will be a lifetime event and will last for more than 3 hours. Have fun!"


Now this needs a dvd recording.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 16, 2014, 02:06:03 PM
Now this needs a dvd recording.

Damn straight
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 16, 2014, 03:58:08 PM
Now this needs a dvd recording.

Damn straight

Absolutely.  Incredible stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 16, 2014, 05:32:06 PM
Now this needs a dvd recording.

Damn straight

Absolutely.  Incredible stuff.

WOW!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2014, 05:51:05 AM
Fuck, just read that Randy Coven passed away.  :'(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 22, 2014, 02:58:40 PM
Fuck, just read that Randy Coven passed away.  :'(

Saw that yesterday. RIP.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2014, 05:05:05 PM
Fuck, just read that Randy Coven passed away.  :'(

Saw that yesterday. RIP.

He was one of the best bass players ever IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 23, 2014, 07:20:23 AM
Unisonic - For the Kingdom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08wDeWQqWnw

Pretty good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 23, 2014, 11:56:15 AM
Fuck, just read that Randy Coven passed away.  :'(

Saw that yesterday. RIP.

He was one of the best bass players ever IMO.

I have his CPR album with Al Pitrelli. Very good.

The Unisonic sounds promising too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 23, 2014, 03:57:53 PM
Fuck, just read that Randy Coven passed away.  :'(

Saw that yesterday. RIP.

He was one of the best bass players ever IMO.

I have his CPR album with Al Pitrelli. Very good.

The Unisonic sounds promising too.

Love Pitrelli, will have to check that out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bertielee on May 24, 2014, 01:52:08 AM
Fuck, just read that Randy Coven passed away.  :'(

Saw that yesterday. RIP.

He was one of the best bass players ever IMO.

I have his CPR album with Al Pitrelli. Very good.

The Unisonic sounds promising too.

Love Pitrelli, will have to check that out.

CPR is really good. And don't forget his work on Ark's Burn the Sun. A truly unique bass player. Fuck, he will be sorely misssed.
RIP, Bro.

B.Lee

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 24, 2014, 02:50:39 AM
I think I could be the only person around these parts who just doesn't rate the Ark album. I bought it years ago on a recommendation but its never clicked. A bit too loose and jam-my to me, not enough big choruses (there are one or two exceptions).
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 24, 2014, 05:28:43 AM
I think I could be the only person around these parts who just doesn't rate the Ark album. I bought it years ago on a recommendation but its never clicked. A bit too loose and jam-my to me, not enough big choruses (there are one or two exceptions).

You aren't the only one.  I've given it a few spins, and was pretty much 'meh' about it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 25, 2014, 03:48:41 AM
Burn the Sun is where I first discovered Randy.  The bass playing on that album is crazy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 25, 2014, 12:40:33 PM
I think I could be the only person around these parts who just doesn't rate the Ark album. I bought it years ago on a recommendation but its never clicked. A bit too loose and jam-my to me, not enough big choruses (there are one or two exceptions).

You aren't the only one.  I've given it a few spins, and was pretty much 'meh' about it.

Same here.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on May 25, 2014, 12:55:45 PM
Just listening to the new HEAT.  It's okay, but such a step down from Address the Nation.  It's pretty inconsistent I think.  I lol at how melodicrock.com can give it 100%, wtf?

I thought the exact same thing after the first listen. Was pretty disappointed actually. But I couldn't get the closing track out of my head. 7 or 8 listens later, I think it is actually a stronger album than Address the Nation, but still not perfect. Not a fan of Mannequin Show at all, and the "ballads" are not as good as past ones. But somehow I feel that the overall effort is more focused.

Also found to be the new Sebastian Bach to be exactly as expected. One or two good songs with a bunch of forgettables. A shame because he can still sing pretty well. He just needs to find himself a full time songwriter who is willing to do something more than just straight up metal.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 25, 2014, 05:25:53 PM
Yeah, I sort of get what you are saying with the HEAT.  It has grown on me quite a bit too and I find myself spinning it quite often.  At first I said it was inconsistent, but now I'm leaning towards calling it varied instead.  It's good, for me no way as good as ATN, but who knows, time will tell.

The Bach I didn't even bother with after hearing two of the tracks.

Also, did anyone else check out Avalon?  For me I have zero interest in pursuing it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on May 25, 2014, 10:04:53 PM
Also, did anyone else check out Avalon?  For me I have zero interest in pursuing it.
I did, made a post about it a page or two back. You aren't missing anything.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on May 26, 2014, 12:54:39 AM
Quote
Also, did anyone else check out Avalon? For me I have zero interest in pursuing it.

I've got a promo of it, but didn't even bother to listen. Think I'll give it a chance this evening.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2014, 05:42:54 AM
Also, did anyone else check out Avalon?  For me I have zero interest in pursuing it.
I did, made a post about it a page or two back. You aren't missing anything.

Yeah, I remember that post well.  I knew you were the only one, and it seems no one else really cared for it either.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2014, 05:50:32 AM
melodicrock.com just gave Avalon a 55.  Jesus, it must be crap.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on May 26, 2014, 06:13:40 AM
On a Survivor kick today at work.  Vital Signs, when Seconds count, Too Hot For Sleep, I'll hit Premonition next.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2014, 06:21:23 AM
Love Too Hot to Sleep.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on May 26, 2014, 06:24:05 AM
Yeah the fact that they finally got a great bass and drum sound on that album makes it a top notch album for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 26, 2014, 06:43:21 AM
Yeah the fact that they finally got a great bass and drum sound on that album makes it a top notch album for me.

I love the production on that album, plus it's damn good to begin with. I'd like Vital Signs just as much if it had the same slicker and harder (heh) production. Still a great album too though.
I also think Jimi Jamison's Empires is a hidden gem. It's a heavier progression of Too Hot to Sleep.

melodicrock.com just gave Avalon a 55.  Jesus, it must be crap.

For them to give an album less than a 90, it must be literal farts.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 26, 2014, 06:47:17 AM
Also, did anyone else check out Avalon?  For me I have zero interest in pursuing it.
I did, made a post about it a page or two back. You aren't missing anything.

I'd forgotten it was out.  Will check it out on Spotify sometime this week.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on May 26, 2014, 06:52:22 AM
Yeah the fact that they finally got a great bass and drum sound on that album makes it a top notch album for me.

I love the production on that album, plus it's damn good to begin with. I'd like Vital Signs just as much if it had the same slicker and harder (heh) production. Still a great album too though.
I also think Jimi Jamison's Empires is a hidden gem. It's a heavier progression of Too Hot to Sleep.


I had that on album and cassette but never got the CD.  I need to get it.  It's been a long time that I've heard that album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on May 26, 2014, 07:04:51 AM
Now moving onto Night Ranger's Neverland and 7 Wishes.


BTW did any of you see the few picks I posted in the Steel Panther Thread?  I saw them this weekend and they kicked ass!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 26, 2014, 07:49:35 AM
I think I could be the only person around these parts who just doesn't rate the Ark album. I bought it years ago on a recommendation but its never clicked. A bit too loose and jam-my to me, not enough big choruses (there are one or two exceptions).

You aren't the only one.  I've given it a few spins, and was pretty much 'meh' about it.

Same here.

Just gave it another chance this morning, and I seem to enjoy it more than I remembered.  B-

Now I'm likely to disappoint the fuck out of myself with Angels of the Apocalypse.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 26, 2014, 12:55:49 PM
On a Survivor kick today at work.  Vital Signs, when Seconds count, Too Hot For Sleep, I'll hit Premonition next.

Can't go wrong with any of them. Love Survivor. Vital Signs made my top 50. Too Hot To Sleep probably should have too. Played most of their albums the last week or two due to some surprisingly hot weather in the UK and I enjoyed When Seconds Count more than I used to.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 27, 2014, 05:38:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWKmrR-fKgg

This is fucking terrible.  Keep this man away from Jorn Lande and Russell Allen, thank you.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 27, 2014, 05:43:54 AM
Had a listen to it yesterday. It's a step up from the first Avalon, but that's not sayin much. It's amazing how Arjen can make Floor sound so good, but Timo makes her sound so bland. There are a couple of good tracks on the album, but mostly, it's mediocre.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on May 27, 2014, 10:34:09 AM
I gave the new Avalon a listen too and I don't agree it's a step up from Land of the New Hope. In fact, I liked several track on the first Avalon, and on this one I only like Jerusalem is Falling, impressive song and a strong opener, like Avalanche Anthem, some tracks are alright and others are, well, bad. I wonder the same about Floor, and also about DeFeis. I totally loved him on Avantasia, but on Avalon II I wish I haven't heard his song.

I started to lose my attention at the end of the record so "THE PIIIINE" from 3:00 of the title track totally caught me off guard. :D I assume that was "the pain" though.

Buy this only if you really liked Land of the New Hope.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 27, 2014, 11:50:45 AM
The DeFeis track sounded horrible.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 27, 2014, 12:41:10 PM
To change the subject, there is a new British hard rock band ding the rounds - Inglorious. They feature Trans Siberian Orchestra's Nathan James on vocals and he is just killer. Not much music heard yet, just a couple of samples on soundcloud, but there's potential.
Here's a cover of Burn, recorded live and Nathan is just fantastic. Does Coverdale and Glenn Hughes masterfully.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqsKLGHUJq8&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 27, 2014, 09:20:22 PM
To change the subject, there is a new British hard rock band ding the rounds - Inglorious. They feature Trans Siberian Orchestra's Nathan James on vocals and he is just killer. Not much music heard yet, just a couple of samples on soundcloud, but there's potential.
Here's a cover of Burn, recorded live and Nathan is just fantastic. Does Coverdale and Glenn Hughes masterfully.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqsKLGHUJq8&feature=youtu.be

Liked that but I have a feeling that on any original material the band (esp the guitarists) are not going to live up to the vocals.  The backing vox were horrific too so hopefully Nathan handles those JSS style in the studio.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 28, 2014, 06:51:57 AM
To change the subject, there is a new British hard rock band ding the rounds - Inglorious. They feature Trans Siberian Orchestra's Nathan James on vocals and he is just killer. Not much music heard yet, just a couple of samples on soundcloud, but there's potential.
Here's a cover of Burn, recorded live and Nathan is just fantastic. Does Coverdale and Glenn Hughes masterfully.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqsKLGHUJq8&feature=youtu.be

Vox were good, but guitars were absolute shit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 28, 2014, 07:06:26 AM
The guitar playing itself was fine, but the tone sounded like every Frontiers records album ever. Get them some real rock guitars and amps, and then they have a chance.

But I loved the vocals.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 28, 2014, 07:13:21 AM
The guitar playing itself was fine, but the tone sounded like every Frontiers records album ever.

(https://www.picgifs.com/reaction-gifs/reaction-gifs/confused/confused010.gif)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 28, 2014, 11:47:47 AM
I'm not expecting the album to rock too hard - something along the line of Honeymoon Suite maybe. I'm expecting the keys to dominate the guitars but the guy has got some voice. He's singing for Gus G apparently on his new tour. That I would like to hear.
He was on The Voice UK a couple of years ago and the pop fuckwits didn't turn around. Probably because he was too good for them. WHat could they teach him?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on May 28, 2014, 12:06:06 PM
Lowdz, this is the first time I've seen somebody post about Honeymoon Suite on this forum.  I love them and Derry Grehan is a killer guitarist.  Just cranked The Big Prize yesterday.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 28, 2014, 08:06:34 PM
Honeymoon Suite is great.  Whenever I hear the song "Burning in Love", its locked in my head for awhile.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 31, 2014, 04:26:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUiOylPbfV0&feature=youtu.be

New track from Jorn, for a game apparently. Starts off in the usual ploddy fashion but picks up a bit of pace in the chorus.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 31, 2014, 05:43:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUiOylPbfV0&feature=youtu.be

New track from Jorn, for a game apparently. Starts off in the usual ploddy fashion but picks up a bit of pace in the chorus.

2.6 million hits! wow
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 01, 2014, 03:24:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUiOylPbfV0&feature=youtu.be

New track from Jorn, for a game apparently. Starts off in the usual ploddy fashion but picks up a bit of pace in the chorus.

2.6 million hits! wow

That'll be the role playing gamers. might be a good business move if he can tap some of that audience.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on June 01, 2014, 04:31:18 AM
Well, I see some comments on Youtube like "Wow, I've never listened to this type of music, but I like it, what you guys can recommend to listen to?", so he'll probably gather some audience. Though his solo stuff isn't so strong, so this guys will probably end up exploring Avantasia and Masterplan and that stuff. Maybe Allen/Lande too.

It's for League of Legends, quite a famous MOBA-type game, I think it's the most popular in the genre now. There are big international cybersports tournaments being hosted up for this game and all these things. I think it's a good decision on his part to participate in this.

The song is alright too, nothing spectacular, but a nice introduction to the genre for non-metal listeners, being tied up with the game and its characters.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 01, 2014, 05:46:02 AM
That's a pretty solid song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2014, 05:33:56 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/unisonic-to-release-light-of-dawn-album-in-august/

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/unisoniclightofdawncd.jpg)

Light Of Dawn" track listing:

Standard CD

01. Venite 2.0
02. Your Time Has Come
03. Exceptional
04. For The Kingdom
05. Not Gonna Take Anymore
06. Night Of The Long Knives
07. Find Shelter
08. Blood
09. When The Deed Is Done
10. Throne Of The Dawn
11. Manhunter
12. You And I

Deluxe CD

01. Venite 2.0
02. Your Time Has Come
03. Exceptional
04. For The Kingdom
05. Not Gonna Take Anymore
06. Night Of The Long Knives
07. Find Shelter
08. Blood
09. When The Deed Is Done
10. Throne Of The Dawn
11. Manhunter
12. You And I
13. Judgement Day
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on June 02, 2014, 07:47:46 AM
I'll probably be picking that up, I really enjoyed the first one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on June 02, 2014, 08:10:57 AM
Same here, liked first one, this one is a definite purchase for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 02, 2014, 10:36:44 AM
Awesome. I cannot wait!!

Are they actually covering an AC/DC tune?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2014, 05:24:46 PM
Are they actually covering an AC/DC tune?

Hmmm....missed that.  It does seem a unique title for it to be a conincidence.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 02, 2014, 05:27:59 PM
Yeah and it's a sucky song as well. I'd rather hear a version of Spellbound, if they are doing one from that era.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on June 02, 2014, 10:35:03 PM
Night of the Long Knives refers a few different things. It is not necessarily a cover of the AC/DC track.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives_%28disambiguation%29
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2014, 06:22:52 AM
Night of the Long Knives refers a few different things. It is not necessarily a cover of the AC/DC track.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives_%28disambiguation%29

Thanks man, never really heard the term before, so I'm pretty sure it's an original song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on June 03, 2014, 06:32:29 AM
That album cover for Unisonic is very cool!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 03, 2014, 07:55:09 PM
Doc Neeson - lead singer for Aussie rock band The Angels- has passed away  :'(  R.I.P.   Take A Long Line (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZKuqy1Pro&feature=kp) and We Gotta Get Out of This Place were childhood faves of mine.

For those who aren't familiar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Angels_(Australian_band)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 03, 2014, 09:57:14 PM
 A new release that might interest fans of Firehouse ........................features their singer - not anything groundbreaking but better than Firehouse has done in a while. 



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-xZOhgOwR8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBhMXG0_lE8
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2014, 05:17:10 AM
Doc Neeson - lead singer for Aussie rock band The Angels- has passed away  :'(  R.I.P.   Take A Long Line (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZKuqy1Pro&feature=kp) and We Gotta Get Out of This Place were childhood faves of mine.

For those who aren't familiar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Angels_(Australian_band)

Even though he has been ill for quite some time, this was still a shock for me.  Even though I was born in the 80's, I loved hearing their stuff on Triple M constantly growing up.  Terrific band, Doc was a unique and charismatic frontman.  Guitar work too is great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 04, 2014, 06:20:05 AM
Night of the Long Knives refers a few different things. It is not necessarily a cover of the AC/DC track.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives_%28disambiguation%29

Thanks man, never really heard the term before, so I'm pretty sure it's an original song.
I've literally never heard that phrase before, other than AC/DC, and in the song, I could never tie the chorus to the verse lyrically.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 04, 2014, 11:14:36 AM
Night of the Long Knives refers a few different things. It is not necessarily a cover of the AC/DC track.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives_%28disambiguation%29

Thanks man, never really heard the term before, so I'm pretty sure it's an original song.
I've literally never heard that phrase before, other than AC/DC, and in the song, I could never tie the chorus to the verse lyrically.

It was a pretty British thing I think. I certainly didn't think AC/DC cover when I saw the title.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 05, 2014, 09:03:50 AM
Couple questions, guys.
1. Does the Sabaton album have clean vocals throughout? Any growls at all?
2. Anyone have the Vandenberg's Moonkings album? Any good?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 05, 2014, 01:39:27 PM
Couple questions, guys.
1. Does the Sabaton album have clean vocals throughout? Any growls at all?
2. Anyone have the Vandenberg's Moonkings album? Any good?

The couple of tracks I heard had a Zep feel to them  - which for me is " a very bad thing". Other opinions exist  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on June 05, 2014, 01:52:28 PM
Couple questions, guys.
1. Does the Sabaton album have clean vocals throughout? Any growls at all?
2. Anyone have the Vandenberg's Moonkings album? Any good?

I've never heard any growls on any Sabaton album.
All clean and all very good too  :yarr
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2014, 05:24:23 PM
Couple questions, guys.
1. Does the Sabaton album have clean vocals throughout? Any growls at all?
2. Anyone have the Vandenberg's Moonkings album? Any good?

The couple of tracks I heard had a Zep feel to them  - which for me is " a very bad thing". Other opinions exist  :biggrin:

That rules this one out for me too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 05, 2014, 05:48:51 PM
Of the Sabaton albums I've heard, plus seeing them live, I'd classify their vocals as aggressive, not growlie. I totally enjoyed them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2014, 05:55:47 PM
For some reason I can't get into Sabaton.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on June 05, 2014, 10:55:08 PM
I was a little taken back by your statement, but then I did remember when I first heard Sabaton, I wasn't impressed at all.
It was only when I saw them supporting Nightwish, in Sydney 18 months ago, that they totally blew me away and after that I was
hooked, and they have been my fave band for the past 18 months.

I mean how can you not like band who have a song about our ANZAC soldiers (Cliffs Of Gallipoli)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEY6LcZFtXc

Or try this one in front of 600,000 people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmerZbDPXns
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2014, 11:13:37 PM
Sabaton have an amazing sound but I find a lot of their stuff doesn't cross the obvious language barrier too well. 

And those frrrrrrreaking rrrrrrrrolled rrrrrrr's are a pain in the rrrrrrrrrrs.  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on June 05, 2014, 11:24:38 PM
I love those R's and he dosen't sound  anything like a typical power metal singer.
The lyrics, really?
I never had any problems understanding them and they are so well researched and written, a total history lesson every one of them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2014, 11:55:25 PM
To be fair to Sabaton I've only sampled maybe 8-10 tracks across a few albums - I actually bought Carolus Rex to give them a better listen but haven't got around to it. 

With regard to the lyrics I agree - they do put plenty of work into the subject matter and the singing is very clear.  This is going to sound silly but I'll say it anyway  :P  - I have Scandi metal bands singing in English where I can barely understand a thing they're singing and it generally annoys me less than hearing it crystal clear and being obvious that it's not well written English.  I find that one hard to explain but it is what it is.

I have heard it mentioned that plenty of Sabaton fans actually prefer the "native tongue" version of Carolus Rex  though - even though they can't understand a word - which may sorta get to what I'm saying.

The rolled r's do grate on me for some reason.

I do intend to get into that Carolus Rex properly though as I do  like their sound and want to give them a better chance to impress.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on June 06, 2014, 12:59:11 AM
CR took me a while to really get into, but once I knew the story and what each song meant, it started to feel a lot better.
I have heard the Swedish version, but the English version is my fave.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 06, 2014, 11:12:32 AM
The thing that puts me off when I have sampled them is the vocals. And the vocal melodies. I'm not a big fan of the cheerful, hymn-like choruses that plagues Power Metal. I like things a little bit darker, especially considering the subject matter.
Still, that Anzacs song was ok. Reminded me of something though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 06, 2014, 03:18:58 PM
The new Tesla is up on Spotify. Really enjoying it. Good songs. The only thing missing is an 80s guitar sound. Leads are great but rhythm guitars have that usual modern lack of dynamics. No-one has signature tone anymore. Rant over.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 07, 2014, 09:48:08 AM
Not sure sheer to put this but I'm really enjoyng Brainstorm's latest album. Never heard of them before but I'll be going through their back catalog for sure.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on June 07, 2014, 01:51:19 PM
Not sure sheer to put this but I'm really enjoyng Brainstorm's latest album. Never heard of them before but I'll be going through their back catalog for sure.

From what I've heard from Brainstorm, they are pretty good.  Old school vibe for sure.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 07, 2014, 09:19:20 PM
Not sure sheer to put this but I'm really enjoyng Brainstorm's latest album. Never heard of them before but I'll be going through their back catalog for sure.

I've posted a few of their albums in the listening thread in recent months.  I wasn't rapt in the new one (The Chosen being the only track I rated very highly) but do like some of their stuff.  They certainly have plenty of albums and I find most of them 1/3 killer, 2/3 filler.

So..........to give you somewhere to start...my favourite album of theirs is Soul Temptation and the album generally considered their best is Liquid Monster
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 08, 2014, 10:09:53 AM
I listened to Monster last night having never really heard much by them. A TAC recommendation has to be taken seriously. I  liked it so much I listened to the latest one too and enjoyed that. Nothing earth shattering but a good listen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 08, 2014, 11:48:38 AM
A TAC recommendation has to be taken seriously.

 :metal

Thanks. That's sig worthy!!

 Been playing it a lot. Not ground breaking by any stretch but very solid.  Just really enjoying it for what it is. I had never really heard of them before this year.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 09, 2014, 05:35:23 AM
I saw a new release from Sabaton in store this weeked.  I almost picked it up, but then I didn't.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 09, 2014, 05:52:49 AM
New Night Ranger sucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QuwO05QABM
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 09, 2014, 05:54:37 AM
I actually quite liked it. :lol I'll probably check out this album.
Better than most of the other generic metal stuff that gets posted in this thread.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 09, 2014, 05:57:01 AM
I actually quite liked it. :lol I'll probably check out this album.
Better than most of the other generic metal stuff that gets posted in this thread.

I don't know how we live in the same country, cause I'm sure we actually live on different planets.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 09, 2014, 05:58:38 AM
I actually quite liked it. :lol I'll probably check out this album.
Better than most of the other generic metal stuff that gets posted in this thread.

I don't know how we live in the same country, cause I'm sure we actually live on different planets.

I've just accepted now that people on this forum live on a different planet to me. :lol Most people here live in prog bizarro world. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 09, 2014, 06:01:21 AM
I saw a new release from Sabaton in store this weeked.  I almost picked it up, but then I didn't.

They played one song from it when I saw them with ReVamp.  It was pretty good.  Still trying to figure out who can tell me what's essential with them.  *goes to check if there is a band thread... nope   :sadpanda:*

I tried Caralous Rex, but wasn't wow'd.  I really enjoyed them live though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 09, 2014, 06:28:43 AM
I just listened to a song from that new album.  I'm glad I didn't pick it up.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2014, 01:12:22 PM
New Night Ranger sucks.

Was that ever really in question?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 09, 2014, 01:23:14 PM
New Night Ranger sucks.

Was that ever really in question?

The previous one was absolutely brilliant. This one... let's just say its taking a while to click.

So, the new Tesla. Anyone heard it? I really like it though it does run out of a bit of steam towards the end. There are alot of ballad-y tracks but these are better than the rockier tracks tbh. There's alot of good stuff from Frank Hannon. It's not going to trouble the 1st 3-4 albums in their discog but I prefer it to anyhting since Bust A Nut.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2014, 02:58:39 PM
Lowdz, maybe you can pick a Night Ranger song that might be decent. I thought they were horrible back in the day. Such a waste.

You can't release a single like Don't Tell Me You Love Me, and set those expectations for the album, then have it completely suck.


Looking forward to the new Tesla. Will likely order it next week.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 09, 2014, 03:08:37 PM
New Night Ranger sucks.

Was that ever really in question?

 :lol  i agree with Paul, the last one was pretty decent.  I have never really dug into their earlier stuff that much.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 09, 2014, 03:14:16 PM
Lowdz, maybe you can pick a Night Ranger song that might be decent. I thought they were horrible back in the day. Such a waste.

You can't release a single like Don't Tell Me You Love Me, and set those expectations for the album, then have it completely suck.


Looking forward to the new Tesla. Will likely order it next week.

I was never a fan of NR back in the day. They didn't do anything here in the UK and they were a bit light for me at the time. The Somewhere In California album was great though. There are nods back to songs from their heyday which is cheeky but its a great rocking melodic album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax-a1UQY7lg&list=PLThNX5mcCGqlBCFHWDByZVqkdgA_KFpYA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyyzrtih_1M&list=PLThNX5mcCGqlBCFHWDByZVqkdgA_KFpYA&index=3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQW365xO3Mc&index=4&list=PLThNX5mcCGqlBCFHWDByZVqkdgA_KFpYA
Cool dual guitar solo at the end.
So
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2014, 03:43:41 PM
Alright Paul, will check out. For you.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 09, 2014, 03:50:12 PM
Alright Paul, will check out. For you.

 :biggrin:

Then Winger...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2014, 03:51:43 PM
Alright Paul, will check out. For you.

 :biggrin:

Then Winger...

No F'n way!! :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 09, 2014, 03:57:20 PM
Alright Paul, will check out. For you.

 :biggrin:

Then Winger...

No F'n way!! :lol

Ok, its too soon. One step at a time  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on June 09, 2014, 04:42:32 PM
That new Night Ranger is pretty generic stuff.  I haven't heard anything from them besides their greatest hits and their not a band I would pursue looking any further into.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on June 09, 2014, 04:49:39 PM
The first 3 Night Ranger albums are great.  they slipped with big life and Man in Motion was good, not great.  I like Neverland but haven't followed since.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2014, 04:54:36 PM
Lowdz, maybe you can pick a Night Ranger song that might be decent. I thought they were horrible back in the day. Such a waste.

You can't release a single like Don't Tell Me You Love Me, and set those expectations for the album, then have it completely suck.


Looking forward to the new Tesla. Will likely order it next week.

I was never a fan of NR back in the day. They didn't do anything here in the UK and they were a bit light for me at the time. The Somewhere In California album was great though. There are nods back to songs from their heyday which is cheeky but its a great rocking melodic album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax-a1UQY7lg&list=PLThNX5mcCGqlBCFHWDByZVqkdgA_KFpYA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyyzrtih_1M&list=PLThNX5mcCGqlBCFHWDByZVqkdgA_KFpYA&index=3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQW365xO3Mc&index=4&list=PLThNX5mcCGqlBCFHWDByZVqkdgA_KFpYA
Cool dual guitar solo at the end.
So

Nice. Much better than I expected though I would never buy that. If they were just a tad heavier and less cheesy, they'd actually be pretty good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on June 09, 2014, 05:02:39 PM
You metalhead. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 09, 2014, 05:03:12 PM
You metalhead. :biggrin:

 :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on June 09, 2014, 05:10:31 PM
 :metal

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 09, 2014, 06:37:07 PM
The first 3 Night Ranger albums are great.  they slipped with big life and Man in Motion was good, not great.  I like Neverland but haven't followed since.

Pretty much this , although I wasn't rapt in Neverland either.  The last one was pretty decent but , even though they've always had the same vibe to some extent I just find this new stuff way too "gay" ........and that's not implying or criticising anyone about their sexuality..............just the best word I could think of.  They're way too happy  ;D

Haven't got around to the new Tesla as yet.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 09, 2014, 06:42:05 PM
The first 3 Night Ranger albums are great.  they slipped with big life and Man in Motion was good, not great.  I like Neverland but haven't followed since.

Pretty much this , although I wasn't rapt in Neverland either.  The last one was pretty decent but , even though they've always had the same vibe to some extent I just find this new stuff way too "gay" ........and that's not implying or criticising anyone about their sexuality..............just the best word I could think of.  They're way too happy  ;D

Haven't got around to the new Tesla as yet.

I think you described it perfectly.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 10, 2014, 01:55:38 PM
Lowdz, maybe you can pick a Night Ranger song that might be decent. I thought they were horrible back in the day. Such a waste.

You can't release a single like Don't Tell Me You Love Me, and set those expectations for the album, then have it completely suck.


Looking forward to the new Tesla. Will likely order it next week.

I was never a fan of NR back in the day. They didn't do anything here in the UK and they were a bit light for me at the time. The Somewhere In California album was great though. There are nods back to songs from their heyday which is cheeky but its a great rocking melodic album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax-a1UQY7lg&list=PLThNX5mcCGqlBCFHWDByZVqkdgA_KFpYA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyyzrtih_1M&list=PLThNX5mcCGqlBCFHWDByZVqkdgA_KFpYA&index=3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQW365xO3Mc&index=4&list=PLThNX5mcCGqlBCFHWDByZVqkdgA_KFpYA
Cool dual guitar solo at the end.
So

Nice. Much better than I expected though I would never buy that. If they were just a tad heavier and less cheesy, they'd actually be pretty good.

That's about as heavy as they ever got as far as I can tell. As I say, never been much of a fan. Agree completely with Brent, far too soft for me. And with two awesome guitarists there was no excuse.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 10, 2014, 02:45:38 PM
And with two awesome guitarists there was no excuse.

My thoughts exactly.  Such a waste.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 10, 2014, 02:52:31 PM
And with two awesome guitarists there was no excuse.

My thoughts exactly.  Such a waste.

You now it's funny. I remember watching the video to Don't Tell Me You Love Me, thinking, OK, this is a rocking song. We have a guitarist from Ozzy's band, and the other guy looks like Dave Murray. This is gonna be a great album.

Nope..what a letdown.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 10, 2014, 04:01:39 PM
So, the new Tesla. Anyone heard it? I really like it though it does run out of a bit of steam towards the end. There are alot of ballad-y tracks but these are better than the rockier tracks tbh. There's alot of good stuff from Frank Hannon. It's not going to trouble the 1st 3-4 albums in their discog but I prefer it to anyhting since Bust A Nut.

I was just sampling some tracks. Jeff Keith sounds terrible. I seriously don't know if I can spend money on this.
And I freaking loved Tesla back in the day!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 11, 2014, 05:12:41 AM
So, the new Tesla. Anyone heard it? I really like it though it does run out of a bit of steam towards the end. There are alot of ballad-y tracks but these are better than the rockier tracks tbh. There's alot of good stuff from Frank Hannon. It's not going to trouble the 1st 3-4 albums in their discog but I prefer it to anyhting since Bust A Nut.

I was just sampling some tracks. Jeff Keith sounds terrible. I seriously don't know if I can spend money on this.
And I freaking loved Tesla back in the day!

I only listened to that one song that was released a couple of months back, and it seriosuly had some of the worst vocals I've ever heard.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 11, 2014, 02:14:59 PM
So, the new Tesla. Anyone heard it? I really like it though it does run out of a bit of steam towards the end. There are alot of ballad-y tracks but these are better than the rockier tracks tbh. There's alot of good stuff from Frank Hannon. It's not going to trouble the 1st 3-4 albums in their discog but I prefer it to anyhting since Bust A Nut.

I was just sampling some tracks. Jeff Keith sounds terrible. I seriously don't know if I can spend money on this.
And I freaking loved Tesla back in the day!

Its certainly not a performance equal to his heyday, there's a lack of warmth I guess, and its very same-y in the delivery, but I wouldn't call it awful. David Coverdale's last couple of albums have been far worse but some don't see (hear?) that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 11, 2014, 02:30:38 PM
So, the new Tesla. Anyone heard it? I really like it though it does run out of a bit of steam towards the end. There are alot of ballad-y tracks but these are better than the rockier tracks tbh. There's alot of good stuff from Frank Hannon. It's not going to trouble the 1st 3-4 albums in their discog but I prefer it to anyhting since Bust A Nut.

I was just sampling some tracks. Jeff Keith sounds terrible. I seriously don't know if I can spend money on this.
And I freaking loved Tesla back in the day!

Its certainly not a performance equal to his heyday, there's a lack of warmth I guess, and its very same-y in the delivery, but I wouldn't call it awful. David Coverdale's last couple of albums have been far worse but some don't see (hear?) that.

I didn't call it awful. I called it terrible. ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 11, 2014, 02:51:34 PM
So, the new Tesla. Anyone heard it? I really like it though it does run out of a bit of steam towards the end. There are alot of ballad-y tracks but these are better than the rockier tracks tbh. There's alot of good stuff from Frank Hannon. It's not going to trouble the 1st 3-4 albums in their discog but I prefer it to anyhting since Bust A Nut.

I was just sampling some tracks. Jeff Keith sounds terrible. I seriously don't know if I can spend money on this.
And I freaking loved Tesla back in the day!

Its certainly not a performance equal to his heyday, there's a lack of warmth I guess, and its very same-y in the delivery, but I wouldn't call it awful. David Coverdale's last couple of albums have been far worse but some don't see (hear?) that.

I didn't call it awful. I called it terrible. ;D

I must have been coming up with an average between what you said and Kade  :biggrin:. Anyway, listening to it now and I like it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 11, 2014, 04:40:58 PM
I thought Coverdale sounded fine on the last album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 11, 2014, 08:33:20 PM
I'm partway through Tesla/Simplicity, and enjoying it.  Sure, Kieth's voice has lot a step, but it's still got that bluesy/raspy feel to it.  He doesn't sound terrible by any stretch.  Perhaps his sound is an acquired taste ... and fortunately I acquired it a long long time ago.  I got no issues with this disc at all.  Not sure I'll buy it, but I'll come back to it on Spotify.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 11, 2014, 09:57:48 PM
I thought Coverdale sounded fine on the last album.

Coverdale has always sounded fine in the studio. Better than fine, in fact. Most guys his age don't sound as good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 12, 2014, 05:26:43 AM
I thought Coverdale sounded fine on the last album.

Coverdale has always sounded fine in the studio. Better than fine, in fact. Most guys his age don't sound as good.

We are sorting agreeing on something?  WOW!  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 13, 2014, 07:38:15 AM
Nothing original but nice riff and decent song on Slash's newy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybJHEgk2FBw&feature=youtu.be

Unfortunately I'm finding my tolerance for Myles Kennedy's whiny voice is rapidly fading.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 13, 2014, 07:43:51 AM
Meh.
I think Myles Kennedy was overdoing the vibrato on that one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 13, 2014, 03:52:10 PM
Nothing original but nice riff and decent song on Slash's newy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybJHEgk2FBw&feature=youtu.be

Unfortunately I'm finding my tolerance for Myles Kennedy's whiny voice is rapidly fading.

I like Myles a lot, but I just found that generic and average.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 13, 2014, 04:13:08 PM
I like it. I've missed that sort of straight ahead rock song recently. Nice and punchy but could live without the breakdown. If the rest of the album is like that I'll be in.
I feel like plugging in and rockin' out so that's a good sign.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 15, 2014, 10:16:56 PM
For those who like Michael Sweet/Stryper I'd suggest you have a listen to his new solo album "I'm Not Your Suicide."  It's a mix of soft, pop rock and hard rock - much of it not normally to my taste - but it's of high enough quality that I didn't have any temptation to hit Skip.  Not a classic by any means (or anything unique) but a real quality release all the same. Quite possibly his best solo disc....crystal clear production too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 26, 2014, 02:13:29 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1407429292879617&set=vb.1404489566506923&type=2&theater

Age Sten Nilsen's new band with Erik Martenssen. Sounds great from the 1.30 clip. Was gutted when Wigwam called it a day so happy "Glam" is back.

Sorry its a facebook link. I know some of you don't facebook.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2014, 05:01:32 PM
I don't have facebook, but I was able to check the video.

Unfortunately, that was just too boring and generic for me.  :'(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 27, 2014, 09:48:31 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1407429292879617&set=vb.1404489566506923&type=2&theater

Age Sten Nilsen's new band with Erik Martenssen. Sounds great from the 1.30 clip. Was gutted when Wigwam called it a day so happy "Glam" is back.

Sorry its a facebook link. I know some of you don't facebook.

Sounded good. Definitely one to check out. :tup Sounded more like some good early 90s hard rock.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 28, 2014, 03:44:06 AM
I don't have facebook, but I was able to check the video.

Unfortunately, that was just too boring and generic for me.  :'(

Of course it did. Its Erik Martenssen  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 28, 2014, 06:35:30 AM


Of course it did. Its Erik Martenssen  :lol

 :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2014, 03:51:41 AM
I don't have facebook, but I was able to check the video.

Unfortunately, that was just too boring and generic for me.  :'(

Of course it did. Its Erik Martenssen  :lol

Lowdz - 1
wolfking - 0

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1407429292879617&set=vb.1404489566506923&type=2&theater

Age Sten Nilsen's new band with Erik Martenssen. Sounds great from the 1.30 clip. Was gutted when Wigwam called it a day so happy "Glam" is back.

Sorry its a facebook link. I know some of you don't facebook.

Sounded good. Definitely one to check out. :tup Sounded more like some good early 90s hard rock.

Oh look, we disagree on something, how strange.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 02, 2014, 05:27:21 AM
New WASP live clips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KqZwlNwzjsk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lK6UKWyP1vM

Blackie actually sounds amazing, but damn he looks terrible.

Still one of my fav concerts when I saw the Crimson Idol tour.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on July 02, 2014, 05:35:37 AM
Very cool   :metal  - he looks like a hybrid of (old) Blackie and Ace Frehley  ;D

I missed em the last time they were out and would definitely go based on that if they come back.  He seems to have given up on all the stuffing about with his fancy mike stands too .
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 02, 2014, 05:39:34 AM
Yeah man, it was an amazing show.  I do hope they can come back one day.  Performing one of my fav albums in full probably made it more special too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 02, 2014, 06:25:05 AM
Blackie sound pretty good, but looks kind of rough
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: NunoTenniscourt on July 02, 2014, 06:35:14 AM

I always thought WASP's image and songwriting was silly in their early years, but Blackie has one of the coolest voices in metal. Nobody else sounds like him.

I've never been crazy about live albums, either, but "Live in the Raw" was really well done, in my opinion.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 02, 2014, 11:18:27 AM
Love early WASP. Lost touch abit after Crimson Idol as things went a bit bland. Last couple have been ok. That live album was a bit of a disappointment. It doesn't sound at all live especially  on sleeping in the fire where you can clearly hear the crowd noise loop. I know most live albums are anyhting but, but this one sounds faked.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on July 02, 2014, 01:58:40 PM
I grew listening to WASP, the first album, the controversies etc.
So when I finally got to see them a few years back in Finland, I was gutted when me and my mates realized that not all of Blackie's lead vocals were live
he was quite obviously lip synching throughout the show.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 02, 2014, 02:43:11 PM
New WASP live clips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KqZwlNwzjsk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lK6UKWyP1vM

Blackie actually sounds amazing, but damn he looks terrible.

Still one of my fav concerts when I saw the Crimson Idol tour.

Saw them a few times back in the day but the last would have been on the Electric Circus tour. Great fun. Enjoyed those clips, would be worth seeing certainly. You would think singing like Blackie does would have put more strain on his voice and ruined it by now. He does look like he goes to the same gym as me  :biggrin:
Crimson Idol made my top 50.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 03, 2014, 04:31:05 AM
Haven't listened to WoA for some time. Spun up In Progress in the car today, I can confirm it's still an amazing melodic rock album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 07, 2014, 05:52:54 AM
Love early WASP. Lost touch abit after Crimson Idol as things went a bit bland. Last couple have been ok. That live album was a bit of a disappointment. It doesn't sound at all live especially  on sleeping in the fire where you can clearly hear the crowd noise loop. I know most live albums are anyhting but, but this one sounds faked.

Live in the Raw is anything but live.

I grew listening to WASP, the first album, the controversies etc.
So when I finally got to see them a few years back in Finland, I was gutted when me and my mates realized that not all of Blackie's lead vocals were live
he was quite obviously lip synching throughout the show.

Yeah, he's a little dodgy at some points, but it's not a lot, to me it was just some extra backing at some points.  Those new clips above seem totally legit though.

Haven't listened to WoA for some time. Spun up In Progress in the car today, I can confirm it's still an amazing melodic rock album.

I am listening to that at the moment in the car too, amazing album, really looking forward to the next one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 07, 2014, 12:53:18 PM
Yea i'm excited. Heard the album is done and they're mastering it at the moment. I'm not sure they have a release date yet but it should not be to far away.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 07, 2014, 02:04:55 PM
WoA just don't do it for me. Its just all too perfect. I need a bit of rough in there.. (awaits dodgy comment)  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 07, 2014, 03:41:05 PM
WoA just don't do it for me. Its just all too perfect. I need a bit of rough in there.. (awaits dodgy comment)  :biggrin:

Yeah, I hear ya.  There's a certain 'edge' that is missing from WoA.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 07, 2014, 03:47:34 PM
Yea i'm excited. Heard the album is done and they're mastering it at the moment. I'm not sure they have a release date yet but it should not be to far away.

No, they haven't released any info or release dates yet.  I'm expecting something soon though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 07, 2014, 03:59:41 PM
Blackie actually sounds amazing, but damn he looks terrible.

He looks like Roseanne!


I always thought WASP's image and songwriting was silly in their early years, but Blackie has one of the coolest voices in metal. Nobody else sounds like him.

Blackie's voice is awesome. You can thank WASP for coaxing Alice Cooper back.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on July 07, 2014, 04:10:22 PM
I think I still have my "I Fuck Like A Beast 45 import with the cockpiece picture as the cover somewhere.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 07, 2014, 04:15:02 PM
I think I still have my "I Fuck Like A Beast 45 import with the cockpiece picture as the cover somewhere.
I KNOW I still have mine!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on July 07, 2014, 04:24:33 PM
I used to crank that song with my music down in the most Spanish part of the town I grew up in. :lol

What a jerk. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 07, 2014, 04:26:16 PM
I used to crank that song with my music down in the most Spanish part of the town I grew up in. :lol

What a jerk. :lol

Animal!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on July 07, 2014, 04:29:34 PM
I feel like we've had an hour conversation between 2 threads. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 07, 2014, 04:36:48 PM
I feel like we've had an hour conversation between 2 threads. :lol

 :metal

Tough part is remembering where I said what. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 08, 2014, 05:37:33 AM
I think I still have my "I Fuck Like A Beast 45 import with the cockpiece picture as the cover somewhere.

I bought that but traded it for a couple of albums at school. I htink one was Ratt's Invasion Of Your Privacy. Not sure what the other was
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on July 08, 2014, 06:12:13 AM
That reminds me of that Ratt EP with the Areosmith cover Walkin' The Dog.  I can't remember the name of it but I played the crap out of it.  But I was an ass with my albums as a teen except for the picture or colored disks.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 08, 2014, 06:17:13 AM
That reminds me of that Ratt EP with the Areosmith cover Walkin' The Dog.  I can't remember the name of it but I played the crap out of it.  But I was an ass with my albums as a teen except for the picture or colored disks.
I had that too, but I was ultimately disappointed with how Ratt turned out. They had a great sound, but Pearcy absolutely sucked and really dragged the band down. If they had a real singer, I bet they would've been awesome.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on July 08, 2014, 11:40:17 AM
Seeing them live really showed how bad a singer Pearcy was.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 08, 2014, 11:44:34 AM
Seeing them live really showed how bad a singer Pearcy was.
Thankfully I never experienced that. They had such a great sound. Much fuller than Dokken. I used to wish Dokken would sing for Ratt.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 08, 2014, 12:00:17 PM
Seeing them live really showed how bad a singer Pearcy was.
Thankfully I never experienced that. They had such a great sound. Much fuller than Dokken. I used to wish Dokken would sing for Ratt.

Agree about Pearcy. He was the weak link for sure. ratt had a great guitar sound - probably my favourite of all those LA bands. DeMartini is a great player. Shame he didn't get to record with Whitesnake. That would have been a good match.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 08, 2014, 12:05:06 PM
DeMartini is a great player. Shame he didn't get to record with Whitesnake. That would have been a good match.
I'm not sure I would've even noticed. The Whitesnake ship sailed ages ago. How has Demartini spent the last 20 or so years? Any good music associated with him?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: emtee on July 08, 2014, 12:10:52 PM
Pulled out some Ratt about 3 weeks ago while working out, after about 10 years and I forgot how much I liked the riffs.
They have some killer guitar work.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 08, 2014, 12:21:08 PM
DeMartini is a great player. Shame he didn't get to record with Whitesnake. That would have been a good match.
I'm not sure I would've even noticed. The Whitesnake ship sailed ages ago. How has Demartini spent the last 20 or so years? Any good music associated with him?

He toured as guitarist with Whitesnake before Doug Aldrich joined. All I've heard from him in that time is the Ratt S/T (which I love but most don't) and the last Ratt album which again was ok. I think he just does Ratt and those awful tribute albums. The ones where Lemmy sings Rick  Springfield and Freddie Mercury   :lol

edit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXR7uXN7FaM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik3kWShtO3w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pTRhExEcwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeIfv8cOKp8
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on July 08, 2014, 12:24:34 PM
Pulled out some Ratt about 3 weeks ago while working out, after about 10 years and I forgot how much I liked the riffs.
They have some killer guitar work.

It's too bad so many of them are in D or drop D. Real pain to learn. Fun to play though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2014, 03:45:40 PM
I like Ratt more than most, but Lowdz, I don't know how you enjoy that S/T from 99.  It's brutal.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 08, 2014, 04:37:20 PM
I like Ratt more than most, but Lowdz, I don't know how you enjoy that S/T from 99.  It's brutal.

I really don't know - I just like it. I love the guitar sound and the album makes me wan to pick my guitar up and play.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 08, 2014, 04:44:48 PM
I like Ratt more than most, but Lowdz, I don't know how you enjoy that S/T from 99.  It's brutal.

I really don't know - I just like it. I love the guitar sound and the album makes me wan to pick my guitar up and play.

I'm afraid to ask but what's the best song on it?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 08, 2014, 04:57:24 PM
I like Ratt more than most, but Lowdz, I don't know how you enjoy that S/T from 99.  It's brutal.

I really don't know - I just like it. I love the guitar sound and the album makes me wan to pick my guitar up and play.

I'm afraid to ask but what's the best song on it?

The last one, then just fast forward to the end.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 08, 2014, 04:59:39 PM
I like Ratt more than most, but Lowdz, I don't know how you enjoy that S/T from 99.  It's brutal.

I really don't know - I just like it. I love the guitar sound and the album makes me wan to pick my guitar up and play.

I'm afraid to ask but what's the best song on it?

The last one, then just fast forward to the end.

 :lol :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 09, 2014, 12:34:46 PM
I like Ratt more than most, but Lowdz, I don't know how you enjoy that S/T from 99.  It's brutal.

I really don't know - I just like it. I love the guitar sound and the album makes me wan to pick my guitar up and play.

Its not that bad !!!  :biggrin: Try the first couple of links. If that doesn't do it for ya then jj's right.

I'm afraid to ask but what's the best song on it?

The last one, then just fast forward to the end.

 :lol :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 09, 2014, 03:00:23 PM
OK, just sampled a coupla tracks. IT SUCKS!!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 09, 2014, 03:34:40 PM
OK, just sampled a coupla tracks. IT SUCKS!!!

well I still like it. Crawls off to the corner to sulk  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 09, 2014, 03:41:17 PM
OK, just sampled a coupla tracks. IT SUCKS!!!

well I still like it. Crawls off to the corner to sulk  :biggrin:

Stand tall, man. You are allowed to like shitty music! :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 09, 2014, 03:42:18 PM
OK, just sampled a coupla tracks. IT SUCKS!!!

well I still like it. Crawls off to the corner to sulk  :biggrin:

Stand tall, man. You are allowed to like shitty music! :lol

We'll blame Pearcey. He is shit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 09, 2014, 03:46:09 PM
Yeah, it's tough. I just can't get by that. The music was pretty lame too though. :)
At least Pearcy sounded no worse than he did in 1984. As for the band..WTF??
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 09, 2014, 07:30:18 PM
Their latest, Infestation, was a very solid release though
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on July 09, 2014, 07:36:17 PM
I reckon Pearcy was okay on the studio stuff and his voice gave them much of their character - live ...........different story.
These days if I go for a Ratt album it would either be Detonator (with Nobody Rides for Free - from Point Break - tacked on) or Infestation.

I actually saw Whitesnake with DeMartini (the night before a uni exam which went down well with the "olds"  ;D  ) and didn't think he fitted in very well with their sound - having said that he was that low in the mix he may as well have been air guitaring it most of the night.

DeMArtini should have hooked up with the singer from Wildside - now that would've been interesting.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2014, 05:45:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=92_XyoAGprc

New Unisonic video.  Quite different, I like it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 10, 2014, 05:46:33 AM
I saw that yesterday. I have very high hopes for this album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2014, 05:52:17 AM
I saw that yesterday. I have very high hopes for this album.

Yeah, this and the other song are really quite excellent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 10, 2014, 03:03:31 PM
I saw that yesterday. I have very high hopes for this album.

Yeah, this and the other song are really quite excellent.

I like that. Sounding excellent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2014, 03:26:59 PM
I saw that yesterday. I have very high hopes for this album.

Yeah, this and the other song are really quite excellent.

I like that. Sounding excellent.

Had a second listen to that song and it's fantastic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 10, 2014, 08:57:18 PM
wow, Kiske sounds outstanding.  This is a man who has taken care of his voice carefully over the years.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on July 10, 2014, 09:09:13 PM
Liking the sound of Kiske as usual but not much there musically for me to latch on to at first listen.  Pretty basic stuff but will certainly check out the album - didn't find much I liked on the first.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 11, 2014, 07:07:45 AM
Even though the first album was pretty simple, I found it was quite a grower.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 11, 2014, 07:38:20 AM
(https://www.melodicrock.com/sites/default/files/field/image/workofart-framework.jpg)

Frontiers Records is excited to announce the release of the long awaited third album from Swedish melodic rockers WORK OF ART entitled “Framework” on September 19th in Europe and September 22nd in North America.
 
“Framework” comes 3 years after the release of “In Progress”, an album that solidified WORK OF ART’s reputation as one of the most talented newcomers in the Melodic Rock genre. Drawing comparisons from such bands as Toto, Giant and Journey, WORK OF ART literally came from nowhere when in 2008 their debut album “Artwork” hit the streets and catapulted them into the stardom of the genre!
 
“After our last record was released, we started to play live for the first time” says main composer and guitar player Robert Sll. ”It really brought us together in a whole new way and kind of revitalized the band. From there, the decision to make a new album was more or less a no brainer. So really, the inspiration for this new album came from playing live and from meeting all the wonderful fans!”
 
The new album was written and recorded in a time frame of about one year and a half and is the logical next step after “In Progress”. “Framework” musically encompasses all that WORK OF ART managed to create until now, offering another bunch of unforgettable songs with soaring melodies (courtesy of the golden throat of singer Lars Sfsund) and amazing instrumental prowess (offered by Robert Sll and drummer Herman Furin). Overall this is certainly WORK OF ART’s most up-tempo and straight ahead album so far, but – as it should be – some unbelievable softer moments are there as well!
 
“I think it safe to say that, style wise, this album continues in the footsteps of our previous two albums. We tried to stretch our sound a little though, some heavier songs and some softer songs” continues Robert.
 
By popular demand WORK OF ART debuted live in Madrid, Spain in January 2012. When asked if WORK OF ART will be following up the new release with a proper tour, Robert Sll answers: “We will certainly try to gig as much as possible. We're already in discussion with several different promoters and then of course, we'll be playing at Melodicrock Fest in Chicago in October!”
 
A trailer of the album can be enjoyed via this link: https://youtu.be/uN0z6XuLGNA
 
“Framework” includes the following tracks: Time To Let Go ; How Will I Know?; Can’t Let Go ; How Do You Sleep At Night?; Over The Line ; The Machine ; Hold On To Love ; Natalie;  The Turning Point ; My Waking Dream.


Sounds pretty much the same as the last two, but I ain't complaining.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 11, 2014, 08:19:47 AM
Sounds pretty much the same as the last two, but I ain't complaining.

No kidding.  Nothing to compelling there.  It's about as powder puff as you can get from Frontiers.  Not bad by any stretch, but not anything that stands out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 11, 2014, 08:26:48 AM
I just have a soft spot for this band.  Love the atmosphere of the songs, the melodies, Robert's amazing guitar work and Lars vox.  Can't wait.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 11, 2014, 08:36:59 AM
I just have a soft spot for this band.  Love the atmosphere of the songs, the melodies, Robert's amazing guitar work and Lars vox.  Can't wait.
Yea me to. Simpel melodies with great production is always a soft spot for me!

Can't listen to the trailer yet because i'm in the middle of nowhere with a potato as internet provider.

All kinds of  :tup for this release from me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 11, 2014, 12:44:21 PM
Sounds pretty much the same as the last two, but I ain't complaining.

No kidding.  Nothing to compelling there.  It's about as powder puff as you can get from Frontiers.  Not bad by any stretch, but not anything that stands out.

This. Just too perfect. No excitement.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 16, 2014, 02:07:13 PM
Allen Lande preview. First track sounds exactly like the Elize Ryd song from the 1st Avalon album. Nice to hear Russell singing rather than shouting but its all so familiar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gezpefzBqIA#t=88

edit - listened to the whole thig now and it's as shit as expected. Tolkki needs to retire again.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 16, 2014, 03:23:23 PM
This is so disappointing.  Where's the magic of the other albums, where's the atmosphere, where's the power, where's the uniqueness?  The songs all sound so familiar and Tolkki's writing style is way too one dimensional these days.  The second song is about the 60th time he's rewritten the Strato song Paradise.  His melodies are just so novice like and immature for someone of his history.

Sorry Frontiers, love your work, but taking this project from Karlsson and giving it to Tolkki is one of the greatest fuckups you've done, and I hope it gets the backlash it deserves.  I wish Tolkki did go away forever like he said he was going to a few years ago.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 16, 2014, 03:43:57 PM
you guys called it
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2014, 05:36:06 AM
I just had a listen online to Tolkki's Angels of the Apocalypse, and what a load of shit.  Definitely the worst thing he has ever put out.  How the fuck does he seem to make these amazing singers sound so shit.  Terrible.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 17, 2014, 05:51:13 AM
Meh, I didn't think the other Allen/Lande albums were anything standout either, even though this sounds a bit worse. I noticed there were no harmonies or parts where they were singing together in these snippets, with poor production even for a Frontiers album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 17, 2014, 11:40:04 AM
Meh, I didn't think the other Allen/Lande albums were anything standout either, even though this sounds a bit worse. I noticed there were no harmonies or parts where they were singing together in these snippets, with poor production even for a Frontiers album.

Tolkki's ears have gone obviously. Have you heard the Ring Of Fire album he ruined recently? Decent album, sounds like ass.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2014, 03:54:54 PM
Meh, I didn't think the other Allen/Lande albums were anything standout either, even though this sounds a bit worse. I noticed there were no harmonies or parts where they were singing together in these snippets, with poor production even for a Frontiers album.

Tolkki's ears have gone obviously. Have you heard the Ring Of Fire album he ruined recently? Decent album, sounds like ass.

Yeah, I really enjoyed that album but he made is sound terrible.  Must have been jealous of TMac so he made his guitar sound like cardboard.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 20, 2014, 11:33:58 AM
Latest from Karlsson's Facebook re the Allen/Lande. Thought he was gonna spill the beans but unfortunately not.

"I get a lot of questions about the new ALLEN/LANDE album. I cant answer all the emails and messages so I write here instead. Im not involved in the new album in any way and dont know anything about it. I had so much fun making the first three albums and it was an honor to work with two of the best singers in the world! I wish Jorn, Russell and the guys all the best for the future! I think its impossible to get enough of their amazing voices!"
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 20, 2014, 12:12:15 PM
Latest from Karlsson's Facebook re the Allen/Lande. Thought he was gonna spill the beans but unfortunately not.

"I get a lot of questions about the new ALLEN/LANDE album. I cant answer all the emails and messages so I write here instead. Im not involved in the new album in any way and dont know anything about it. I had so much fun making the first three albums and it was an honor to work with two of the best singers in the world! I wish Jorn, Russell and the guys all the best for the future! I think its impossible to get enough of their amazing voices!"

Well, he's wrong there... I've had enough of anyone singing for Tolkki.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2014, 05:17:39 PM
I'm pretty sure Karlsson wouldn't be allowed to comment because he would be on some sort of contract with his involvement on the Frontiers roster.  He would definitely have his opinions, but we will never know, unless he doesn't work for Frontiers anymore.

It's good to see it's obviously not just us that are pissed about this.  Hopefully it shows in the hype and the reception of this album compared to the first three.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 25, 2014, 06:16:36 AM
Fuck, Pat Torpey (Mr Big) diagnosed with Parkinson's.  :(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 25, 2014, 07:01:32 AM
That's so sad to hear! :( I hope he owns that disease like he owns the drums!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7IacYyB7c

Love the singing part!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 25, 2014, 08:05:35 AM
Fuck, Pat Torpey (Mr Big) diagnosed with Parkinson's.  :(

Awww... that's shite.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 25, 2014, 12:39:14 PM
That's so sad to hear! :( I hope he owns that disease like he owns the drums!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7IacYyB7c

Love the singing part!

That is a pisser. Not the sort of disease you can fight against really. Nasty disease and further proof there is no god.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 28, 2014, 06:58:06 AM
Coming October 17.

(https://www.melodicrock.com/sites/default/files/vega-stereomessiah500.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2014, 05:26:22 AM
New Soto song clip;

Pretty bloody ordinary, but better than the Orlando song I spose.  Sounds like a song that didn't make the cut on Gus G's solo album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=21anVAgh3dc

This ain't looking good compared to Damage Control.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on July 29, 2014, 05:30:15 AM
I barely even bother with new releases any more for health reasons - if I hear a memorable song I think I'll have a heart attack.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 29, 2014, 07:08:59 AM
New Soto song clip;

Pretty bloody ordinary, but better than the Orlando song I spose.  Sounds like a song that didn't make the cut on Gus G's solo album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=21anVAgh3dc

This ain't looking good compared to Damage Control.

Not impressed so far. I just don't like the modern metal guitar sound I guess. What happened to the days where you could tell who was playing just by  their rhythm guitar sound?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 29, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
I think it sounds the shits actually
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2014, 05:27:55 PM
New Soto song clip;

Pretty bloody ordinary, but better than the Orlando song I spose.  Sounds like a song that didn't make the cut on Gus G's solo album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=21anVAgh3dc

This ain't looking good compared to Damage Control.

Not impressed so far. I just don't like the modern metal guitar sound I guess. What happened to the days where you could tell who was playing just by  their rhythm guitar sound?

Yeah, it's just so plain and generic, I expect more from Soto.

I barely even bother with new releases any more for health reasons - if I hear a memorable song I think I'll have a heart attack.

haha.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on August 01, 2014, 07:00:04 AM
Just purchased Unruly Child's album Worlds Collide.  Can't wait to crack it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 01, 2014, 10:41:23 AM
Just purchased Unruly Child's album Worlds Collide.  Can't wait to crack it.

Its not bad. I find it a bit like Night Ranger's Somewhere In California. Several nods to their earlier works in there. Mark/Marcie has a great voice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on August 01, 2014, 03:05:12 PM
I loved it.  man the harmonies were fantastic.  I've always been a big fan of Bruce Gowdy's work with Stone Fury and World trade so of course I loved his playing on this album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 01, 2014, 03:17:52 PM
I loved it.  man the harmonies were fantastic.  I've always been a big fan of Bruce Gowdy's work with Stone Fury and World trade so of course I loved his playing on this album.

Stone Fury were awesome. Not heard the World Trade.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 03, 2014, 07:32:14 PM
Anyone checked the new Unisonic yet?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 03, 2014, 08:24:31 PM
Didn't someone show it in the 'what album...' Thread?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 03, 2014, 08:26:38 PM
Didn't someone show it in the 'what album...' Thread?


ooohhh, I shall see.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 06, 2014, 05:54:55 AM
New Vega song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8vALKQODUs

Pretty much a heavier continuation from the last album.  Love these guys, love this song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on August 06, 2014, 06:09:04 AM
I loved it.  man the harmonies were fantastic.  I've always been a big fan of Bruce Gowdy's work with Stone Fury and World trade so of course I loved his playing on this album.

Stone Fury were awesome. Not heard the World Trade.

World trade was a more proggy outfit lead by Billy Sherwood of Yes fame.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bologbTJT0
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: amagr on August 06, 2014, 08:34:44 AM
Hey!
Im new at forum and big fan of melodic rock. Do any of you know Broken Arrow? They from Slovenia (like me haha) and play AOR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIimWlp41C0 Here is a little of the album which was released last year.  If you will like it and wanna buy cd buy it from bend not from other pages cuz there is much more expensive.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 10, 2014, 09:30:25 PM
it pains me to say it but I struggled to get through the new Tesla -it's like Tesla live from the old folks home.  Zzzzz

Two or three tracks I'll check out a second time  :-\
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 11, 2014, 05:16:06 AM
it pains me to say it but I struggled to get through the new Tesla -it's like Tesla live from the old folks home.  Zzzzz

Two or three tracks I'll check out a second time  :-\

I agree.  I think I had my rose-colored headphones on the first time I listened to it.  Subsequent listens didn't do much for me.  Doubt I'll go back to it.

Now, where are those best-of lists you promised me for Tad Morose and Talisman?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 11, 2014, 05:24:38 AM
I'm having a few days off from pimping music..............listening to DSOTM for the first time  ;D

It seems my song ratings for Tad Morose have vanished , so for the older stuff I'm going to have to go back and give it a listen to refresh the memory before I send you a list.  Talisman is a bit easier - could do that off the top of my head.

Gimme a few days - how many songs do you want from each?   We're looking at say 4 albums from Tad Morose and 7 from Talisman.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 11, 2014, 05:41:25 AM
20ish or so.  No rush.  Just wanted to know what was essential, and what is filler.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 11, 2014, 07:48:57 AM
20ish or so.  No rush.  Just wanted to know what was essential, and what is filler.

With Talisman that's easy. Just get them all  :biggrin:
Controversially, my least favourite is Humanimal I & II. They went too heavy, and heaviness is not what attracted me to Talisman in the first place. Saying that, I do like the album by the band Humanimal (pretty much Talisman II) from a few years ago.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 11, 2014, 07:51:41 AM
............and I thought the Humanimal (band) was crap  ;D  I suppose that's controversial too as most seemed to like it.  Reminds me of Cats and Dogs - the only Talisman album I don't like.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on August 11, 2014, 09:31:58 AM
Anybody heard the new Unisonic yet?

edit: Ah, I see someone already asked.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 11, 2014, 11:38:48 AM
............and I thought the Humanimal (band) was crap  ;D  I suppose that's controversial too as most seemed to like it.  Reminds me of Cats and Dogs - the only Talisman album I don't like.

 :biggrin:
I like Cat & Dogs.

Only listened to the Unisonic once but impression was favourable. Needs more plays though.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on August 11, 2014, 03:24:58 PM
Cool interview with Dennis Ward.

https://bravewords.com/features/unisonic-straight-out-of-helloween
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on August 12, 2014, 05:05:01 PM
Don't know if it's been posted earlier but new Ace Frehley.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMiC8jybKfw
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on August 12, 2014, 05:07:33 PM
King, that song sucks. I heard it a couple of weeks ago. I was just listening to the title track streaming about 10 minutes ago. It really wasn't that great either. His last album was pretty bad though. Sucks because I love Ace. This is definitely a listen before I buy album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on August 12, 2014, 05:08:33 PM
I just listened to it for the first time.  You're right.  so damn generic.  Damn that sucks.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 12, 2014, 07:31:13 PM
Trailer from upcoming Twisted Sister doco/movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbZqh6-meHQ&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on August 12, 2014, 09:16:54 PM
Trailer from upcoming Twisted Sister doco/movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbZqh6-meHQ&feature=youtu.be

Twisted Sister is amazing
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on August 13, 2014, 11:18:13 AM
Trailer from upcoming Twisted Sister doco/movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbZqh6-meHQ&feature=youtu.be

Twisted Sister is amazing

Wow, that gave me goosebumps.  I am definitely getting that. Obviously gonna watch it while the kids are in school. :lol

Such a huge Alice Cooper influence, and I love the fact that Pete Way produced their first album. Those first three albums are freaking incredible.

The thing with Twisted Sister was that although it took them forever to "get there" it was over pretty quick. Only saw them once, opening for Dio in 1984.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2014, 06:08:54 AM
New Vinnie Moore band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-MTHbC23eQ

Leads sound great, but the rest sounds shit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: NunoTenniscourt on August 18, 2014, 07:15:34 AM
Here's what I find baffling about Twisted Sister. In my own experience, everyone I knew who was into the 80's rock/metal scene back in the day fucking hated them. Absolutely despised them. They were considered a joke.

Fast forward to today, and many of these people claim to love them now. I don't get it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on August 18, 2014, 12:28:18 PM
Here's what I find baffling about Twisted Sister. In my own experience, everyone I knew who was into the 80's rock/metal scene back in the day fucking hated them. Absolutely despised them. They were considered a joke.

Fast forward to today, and many of these people claim to love them now. I don't get it.

Nuno, I can only speak for myself. I was a huge UFO fan, so when I found out Pete Way produced an album by a band called Twisted Sister, I got Under The Blade. I thought it was OK. But You Can't Stop Rock n Roll is freaking KILLER, as is Stay Hungry.
I think a lot of people thought they were a joke as We're Not Gonna Take It was played on MTV ad nauseum. Hard to take a band seriously that looked like that, but up until that point, they rocked pretty hard and were a great band.
But Come Out To Play is pretty weak, and Love Is For Suckers is even worse.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: NunoTenniscourt on August 18, 2014, 02:12:41 PM
Here's what I find baffling about Twisted Sister. In my own experience, everyone I knew who was into the 80's rock/metal scene back in the day fucking hated them. Absolutely despised them. They were considered a joke.

Fast forward to today, and many of these people claim to love them now. I don't get it.

Nuno, I can only speak for myself. I was a huge UFO fan, so when I found out Pete Way produced an album by a band called Twisted Sister, I got Under The Blade. I thought it was OK. But You Can't Stop Rock n Roll is freaking KILLER, as is Stay Hungry.
I think a lot of people thought they were a joke as We're Not Gonna Take It was played on MTV ad nauseum. Hard to take a band seriously that looked like that, but up until that point, they rocked pretty hard and were a great band.
But Come Out To Play is pretty weak, and Love Is For Suckers is even worse.

Yeah, I remember the "You Can't Stop Rock-N-Roll" video getting a little bit of play back then, and I thought it kicked ass. But when "We're Not Gonna Take It" came out, it didn't even seem like the same band. Then the next album, I believe they released a video for their cover of "Leader of the Pack", which I thought was just comical.

However, I do think "The Price" is a highly underrated power ballad. I heard it on the radio before I ever saw the video, and was blown away when the DJ said it was Twisted Sister afterward.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on August 18, 2014, 02:21:53 PM
But We're Not Gonna Take It really does not represent what Stay Hungry was all about. Stay Hungry kicks some serious ass.

Yes, Leader Of The Pack, and also Be Cruel To Your School, even with Alice Cooper, was pretty awful. I checked out as a fan at that point.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 18, 2014, 02:43:48 PM
New Vinnie Moore band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-MTHbC23eQ

Leads sound great, but the rest sounds shit.

Sounds ok. Big 70s vibe which isn't really my thing but there'll be plenty of cool guitar on there. Sounds no worse than Chickenfoot, Black Country Communion, California Breed etc. Keeling is a good singer.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 18, 2014, 09:38:44 PM
Yeah - sounds like a lot of these other bluesy rock bands about at the moment.  No doubt Kelly's vocals and Vinnie's leads will give them some sort of identity so I'll check out the samples.


I'm currently putting together a mix tape at the request of my 6 yo son.................and before you say I'm calling the shots on this , he tells me within 10 seconds of the start of a song whether it makes the grade (a man after my own heart  ;D  ) , so I didn't even get a chance to tell him what to pick.  We had a "music day" on Sunday where we listened to a mix of some rock anthems I thought he might latch onto , his kids CDs , some iTunes radio etc.... and he had sole call on what made it onto the CD.  Here's what he picked:

KISS - Rock And Roll All Nite , Shout It Out Loud
Twisted Sister - We're Not Gonna Take It
Queen - We Will Rock You
Scooby Doo Theme
Michael Jackson - Thriller , Beat It, Black or White
Europe- The Final Countdown
Food Glorious Food - Oliver (very, very appropriate for him)
Phil Collins : Billy Don't You Lose My Number
Michael Henderson: In The Night Time
Toto- Africa
Pharrell Williams- happy
Sunshine and Lollipops??
Gary Moore- Friday On My Mind
Whitesnake- Here I Go Again
Elton John - Crocodile Rock
LEGO s'track - Everything Is Awesome
Poison- Nothing But A Good Time
Weird Al - Eat It , I Love Rocky Road
Creeper (Minecraft parody of Thriller)
Alice Cooper- Poison
Ac/DC - Thunderstruck
Europe - The Final Countdown
Bon Jovi - Living On A Prayer
Ray parker - Ghostbusters
Survivor - Eye of the Tiger
Van Halen - Dreams, Jump , You Really Got Me


I'm impressed.  :hat
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 18, 2014, 10:29:42 PM
The Final Countdown was so good it had to be there twice!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 18, 2014, 10:31:38 PM
I can live with that  ;D   
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2014, 10:35:35 PM
The Final Countdown was so good it had to be there twice!!

You beat me to it.

For a six year old, that's quite impressive.  It has the staples of Countdown, Poison, Thunderstruck etc.  But the addition of songs like Dreams, Tiger, Friday, Here I Go and Africa are credible.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 18, 2014, 11:00:10 PM
I believe the correct phrase here is "parenting done right". :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2014, 11:21:58 PM
Just get that awful Happy song out.  Can't stand it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 18, 2014, 11:24:33 PM
Just get that awful Happy song out.  Can't stand it.

Said like a true death metaller  ;D   
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 18, 2014, 11:29:02 PM
Just get that awful Happy song out.  Can't stand it.

Said like a true death metaller  ;D

When that song came out, every bastard would be going around singing it and cause we have to have mainstream radio on at work, it was on like every hour.  People would say, "don't you love this song,"  I replied with "No, I fucking hate it, it's the biggest pile of shit I've ever heard."  They just look at me like I was an alien. :lol

Come to think of it, I don't know how I still have so many friends at work.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 19, 2014, 02:10:36 AM
Just get that awful Happy song out.  Can't stand it.
100% this. I'm usually pretty tolerant against songs I don't like but this damn pretentious bastardisation of a song makes me the opposite of happy......unhappy! Don't like being unhappy...  :'(

Other than that I agree with Blob:

I believe the correct phrase here is "parenting done right". :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2014, 02:25:50 AM
Just get that awful Happy song out.  Can't stand it.
100% this. I'm usually pretty tolerant against songs I don't like but this damn pretentious bastardisation of a song makes me the opposite of happy......unhappy! Don't like being unhappy...  :'(


You rule.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 19, 2014, 02:28:47 AM
Ahh thx you!  :heart
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on August 19, 2014, 03:57:40 PM
Brent, your son doesn't like Icon?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on August 19, 2014, 04:04:32 PM
Love the list!

I tried brainwashing all my nephews for years but all for not.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on August 19, 2014, 06:50:45 PM
Just get that awful Happy song out.  Can't stand it.

Said like a true death metaller  ;D

When that song came out, every bastard would be going around singing it and cause we have to have mainstream radio on at work, it was on like every hour.  People would say, "don't you love this song,"  I replied with "No, I fucking hate it, it's the biggest pile of shit I've ever heard."  They just look at me like I was an alien. :lol

Come to think of it, I don't know how I still have so many friends at work.

Just let it go, man.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 19, 2014, 06:53:17 PM
Brent, your son doesn't like Icon?

I haven't got to the obscure stuff yet Jay - I want him to have some sort of hope of hearing the music he likes when he's not here  ::)   I know how much it grates on me when I have to keep up appearances and listen to shit music all day.

Come to think of it he has a mate whose parents are close with my missus - every time I go over there I grit my teeth and listen to dance music and stuff like "Happy" (wolfie would love it) but when they come to my place it takes about half an hour before they either ask for the music to be changed or just walk over to the stereo and start stuffing around with it.   They even asked if they could stop my ultra-mega-awesome playlist and put something else on at my 40th birthday and I told them in no uncertain terms "ain't gonna happen" and I got a glare from the missus as if to say "That was rude."  ;D    I tell ya who was rude and was fucken wasn't me  :hat

So I figure I better get him into some stuff that rocks but might pop up somewhere on occasion.  Don't want him to feel like an outcast when he goes out like I do  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on August 19, 2014, 06:55:20 PM
I like Happy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 19, 2014, 07:06:35 PM
Just get that awful Happy song out.  Can't stand it.

Said like a true death metaller  ;D

When that song came out, every bastard would be going around singing it and cause we have to have mainstream radio on at work, it was on like every hour.  People would say, "don't you love this song,"  I replied with "No, I fucking hate it, it's the biggest pile of shit I've ever heard."  They just look at me like I was an alien. :lol

Come to think of it, I don't know how I still have so many friends at work.

Just let it go, man.

No, damn it!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 20, 2014, 12:32:31 AM
This wasn't worth its own thread and I know the dudes that would be interested check this thread , so for the Aussies.............2015 Soundwave lineup

I haven't heard of 95% of 'em and really can't be stuffed putting up with a festival to see the few bands we might be interested in.  The good news is that the big names usually do side shows.   I need to find some live Priest footage from recent times - not sure if Halford is worth seeing these days.


SOUNDWAVE LINE-UP
Day one
Faith No More----------
Soundgarden
Incubus
Lamb Of God
Antemasque
Ministry
Gerard Way
Mayhem
New Found Glory
Fear Factory
Hollywood Undead
Falling In Reverse
Atreyu
The Aquabats
Area 7
Godflesh
Crown The Empire
The Interrupters
Icon For Hire
Emily’s Army
Patent Pending
Fireworks
The Bennies
The Color Morale
Monuments
Nothing More
Deathstars
Ne Obliviscaris
Day two
Slipknot
Slash---------------
Marylin Manson
Fall Out Boy
Judas Priest------------
Godsmack
All Time Low
Papa Roach
Of Mice & Men
Escape the Fate
Apocalyptica
Lagwagon
Tonight Alive
Crossfaith
Butcher Babies
Evergreen Terrace
Confession
The Swellers
Conditions
Coldrain
King 810
Dayshell
This Wild Life
SOUNDWAVE 2015 DATES
BRISBANE - RNA Showgrounds, 21 & 22 February, 2015
SYDNEY - 28 February & March 1, 2015
MELBOURNE - Flemington Racecourse, 21 & 22 February 2015
ADELAIDE - Bonython Park, 28 February & March 1, 2015


Read more: https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/soundwave-2015-australias-bestever-rock-lineup-20140820-105s86.html#ixzz3AuYeoMcG
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 20, 2014, 12:48:08 AM
Nothing I'm interested in, but when there are bands I'm interested in, I'll only go to sideshows. That was the case with Maiden when they came out a few years ago.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2014, 01:19:01 AM
Nothing for me.  Faith No More, Soundgarden and Incubus would be cool, but I wouldn't go just for them.  I wouldn't even both with Priest either, even they did some side shows.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on August 20, 2014, 04:18:29 AM
Yeah FNM, Soundgarden, Fear Factory, all oldies but goodies.
Would love to see Deathstars again and of course one of Australia's finest, Ne Obliviscaris.
JP I saw a couple of years ago in Wales, nothing remember-able at all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on August 20, 2014, 06:21:26 AM
Besides Judas Priest, I couldn't care less about any of those bands. But on a side note, check out footage of Butcher Babies; the chicks are smoking!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2014, 07:14:23 AM
Besides Judas Priest, I couldn't care less about any of those bands. But on a side note, check out footage of Butcher Babies; the chicks are smoking!

I haven't heard a second of their music, but yeah they are pretty unreal, hot as hell.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 20, 2014, 07:32:38 AM
Besides Judas Priest, I couldn't care less about any of those bands. But on a side note, check out footage of Butcher Babies; the chicks are smoking!

I haven't heard a second of their music, but yeah they are pretty unreal, hot as hell.

Checked out a couple mins of a vid on YT.  Melodic Death Metal... prolly right up that alley you're hanging out in.   ;)

They certainly have a live schtick that will appeal to dudes.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 20, 2014, 10:35:51 AM
Brent, your son doesn't like Icon?

I haven't got to the obscure stuff yet Jay - I want him to have some sort of hope of hearing the music he likes when he's not here  ::)   I know how much it grates on me when I have to keep up appearances and listen to shit music all day.

Come to think of it he has a mate whose parents are close with my missus - every time I go over there I grit my teeth and listen to dance music and stuff like "Happy" (wolfie would love it) but when they come to my place it takes about half an hour before they either ask for the music to be changed or just walk over to the stereo and start stuffing around with it.   They even asked if they could stop my ultra-mega-awesome playlist and put something else on at my 40th birthday and I told them in no uncertain terms "ain't gonna happen" and I got a glare from the missus as if to say "That was rude."  ;D    I tell ya who was rude and was fucken wasn't me  :hat

So I figure I better get him into some stuff that rocks but might pop up somewhere on occasion.  Don't want him to feel like an outcast when he goes out like I do  ;D

That is taking the piss. Do not mess with a rock fan's stereo. WTF  :censored

Cool list. My kids like some of my stuff too. Zach is forever putting on KISS' Crazy Nights. They can recognise DT too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on August 20, 2014, 11:34:31 AM
Yes don't mess with a mans music!!

I don't care how hot a female is, if she turns off the rock, I'm done.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 20, 2014, 02:57:08 PM
Yes don't mess with a mans music!!

I don't care how hot a female is, if she turns off the rock, I'm done.

We had a long family car jppurney at the weekend so I prepared in advance  - copied the Planet Rock Crazy Nights compilation and some other Wifey friendly studff. She brought along a bloody Bruno Mars cd and expected me to play it. When she learns to drive and drives us to the other end of the country to visit her folks, she can choose the music!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 20, 2014, 04:56:10 PM
Fuck I hate Bruno Mars.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on August 20, 2014, 04:57:18 PM
Thank god my wife likes Rock, metal and prog.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on August 20, 2014, 05:00:55 PM
Thank god my wife likes Rock, metal and prog.

hang on to her
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on August 20, 2014, 05:03:07 PM
20 years married in Oct.  You should see her gardening with her earphones on headbanging.  It's cute.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 20, 2014, 06:24:16 PM
20 years married in Oct.  You should see her gardening with her earphones on headbanging.  It's cute.

This we need a vid of.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on August 20, 2014, 06:27:49 PM
I will creep on my wife over the weekend. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 20, 2014, 06:30:51 PM
I will creep on my wife over the weekend. :lol

:heybaby:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 21, 2014, 02:08:19 AM
New Work Of Art song up for listen on their FB page. I'm not sure how to link it here.

I'm not really feeling it from what i've heard from the album so far but we'll see. I'm pretty sure I will get the album anyway.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on August 21, 2014, 02:50:12 AM
Yeah, Soundcloud is kind of shit for getting a link to something.

Anyway, the song isn't bad, nothing to get too excited about though. I'll probably end up picking this up anyway aswell.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 21, 2014, 10:38:21 AM
20 years married in Oct.  You should see her gardening with her earphones on headbanging.  It's cute.

She doesn't mind some hair metal but gets pissed off with my music all the time in the car- she loves ELO and The Beatles. She's been to some gigs with me, Whitesnake, KISS, a couple of others.
Generally she listens to complete shit though. I'm trying to give the boys a good musical education. Zach has this electric guitar thing that plays Ace of Spades, Smoke On The Water and Breaking the Law so he loves those.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2014, 06:35:30 PM
New Work Of Art song up for listen on their FB page. I'm not sure how to link it here.

I'm not really feeling it from what i've heard from the album so far but we'll see. I'm pretty sure I will get the album anyway.

Sounds like more of the same to me.  This song has a bit more energy though which is great, love it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 21, 2014, 06:38:38 PM
We tend to discuss melodic metal here and this is probably more in that vein than power metal , so here it sits.

As you guys know I love me some Urban Breed vocals and he just emailed through details on his upcoming Project Arcadia album.  Below is a link to the first song (pre-release) and I think it sounds promising.  My initial reaction was a bit WTF as it doesn't have his usual lyrical depth , it ends rather weird and I felt that the song structure was a bit off in a couple of places but after repeated listens it's growing on me. I think it'll make more sense in terms of what seems to be a concept album.

Not quite in the class of Trail of Murder but I love this guy's voice and I think there's enough in this song to definitely suggest it's worth keeping an eye out for.

https://projectarcadiabg.com/

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 21, 2014, 06:42:37 PM
New Work Of Art song up for listen on their FB page. I'm not sure how to link it here.

I'm not really feeling it from what i've heard from the album so far but we'll see. I'm pretty sure I will get the album anyway.

Sounds like more of the same to me.  This song has a bit more energy though which is great, love it.

I was over it after the first 40 secs....................seriously , I love the guy's voice but I don't think I could make so many songs/albums sound the same if I tried.  I think Tommy Denander must be involved somewhere  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2014, 06:45:19 PM
New Work Of Art song up for listen on their FB page. I'm not sure how to link it here.

I'm not really feeling it from what i've heard from the album so far but we'll see. I'm pretty sure I will get the album anyway.

Sounds like more of the same to me.  This song has a bit more energy though which is great, love it.

I was over it after the first 40 secs....................seriously , I love the guy's voice but I don't think I could make so many songs/albums sound the same if I tried.  I think Tommy Denander must be involved somewhere  ;D

Tommy Denander is such a good guitarist.  I love the album he did with the late Fergie Frederiksen.  Great melodic rock.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 21, 2014, 06:47:41 PM
Tommy is a good guitarist (and a tool  ;D ) but he also tends to use patches/keys in the same way on almost every project he's involved in that makes them all sound similar.  That's what I was referring to ........sometimes knowing who did something after 10 secs is a good thing , sometimes it's not.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2014, 06:52:22 PM
We tend to discuss melodic metal here and this is probably more in that vein than power metal , so here it sits.

As you guys know I love me some Urban Breed vocals and he just emailed through details on his upcoming Project Arcadia album.  Below is a link to the first song (pre-release) and I think it sounds promising.  My initial reaction was a bit WTF as it doesn't have his usual lyrical depth , it ends rather weird and I felt that the song structure was a bit off in a couple of places but after repeated listens it's growing on me. I think it'll make more sense in terms of what seems to be a concept album.

Not quite in the class of Trail of Murder but I love this guy's voice and I think there's enough in this song to definitely suggest it's worth keeping an eye out for.

https://projectarcadiabg.com/

Not bad, good guitar solo.  Vocals were good and reminded me of Andre Matos at times.  I might check this one out.


Tommy is a good guitarist (and a tool  ;D ) but he also tends to use patches/keys in the same way on almost every project he's involved in that makes them all sound similar.  That's what I was referring to ........sometimes knowing who did something after 10 secs is a good thing , sometimes it's not.

Oh, I missed that lol.  He's done so much I haven't looked into all of his work.  Bit of a douche hey.

I gotta say, even I find it a bit much with how much the new WOA just sounds like the old stuff.  I'l eat it up, but Robert Sall needs to change it up a little.  It seems songs he writes for other people have the variety where WOA is just the same old.  I like how it's a bit heavier but apart from that, not much difference.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 21, 2014, 07:28:23 PM
Joel from Night Ranger is the new Whitesnake guitarist.   I was expecting the "big name" might've been a big bigger  ;D   
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2014, 07:49:23 PM
Joel from Night Ranger is the new Whitesnake guitarist.   I was expecting the "big name" might've been a big bigger  ;D

Was the criteria to look like Doug to get this part?  Good gig for him though, he's a pretty good guitarist.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 21, 2014, 09:22:03 PM
Joel from Night Ranger is the new Whitesnake guitarist.   I was expecting the "big name" might've been a big bigger  ;D   

Yeah, I was hoping for someone a little more big-time, ie. someone I'd heard of before.
Nothing they do now will top what they did with Aldrich. I don't think Coverdale should try for another Whitesnake album now, just stick to touring.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 22, 2014, 02:16:45 AM
Copy and pasted from the album thread

Speaking of which - for those who've been chatting in the AOR thread about Work of Art , I'd suggest checking out the Secret album I noted in this thread today.  Similar style but more personality/conviction/variable sound ,much better guitar work and the singer sounds like a smoother Michael Bormann.  Nothing groundbreaking but a lot fresher than anything Work of Art are likely to produce. Bloody good album and the best new AOR album I've heard in a while actually.  When you consider that one guy played basically all instruments on the album + singer ........even more amazing.

Here's the opening track , which is one of the more basic , rocking tracks.  Gives you an idea of what they're capable of though.  Work of Art will have to do something amazing to get close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR_FLuKYvag
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 22, 2014, 06:39:42 AM
An interesting comment from a label guy with an advance copy of the new TEN album:

"Having been underwhelmed by the last few Ten albums, the new one is IMMENSE and even tops Name of the Rose for me as the best Ten album ever. Mr Hughes has definitely rediscovered his mojo."
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 22, 2014, 11:27:10 AM
Hmm. I thinnk I'll make my own mind up about that. A label guy isn't going to say it's total shite.  :biggrin: I hope he's right though.

Going to pimp this album by a young British band. I think you'll all like it - well maybe not Blob...  :biggrin:. Fairly typical melodic rock album but a modern, heavier edge and certainly not pink and fluffy. There's maybe a bit of early Tesla in there at times.

(https://www.israbox.com/uploads/posts/2014-02/1393605777_front.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvmW6m7xtU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ4-FOrTij8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7wAlKNylS0

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 22, 2014, 11:35:35 AM
I quite liked the first song, not so much the other two. It's on Spotify, so I might check out the whole thing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 22, 2014, 11:36:31 AM
Hmm. I thinnk I'll make my own mind up about that. A label guy isn't going to say it's total shite.  :biggrin: I hope he's right though.



Not the label it's released on  :P  I'm not that much of a sucka  ;)




Going to pimp this album by a young British band. I think you'll all like it - well maybe not Blob...  :biggrin:.


No need to pimpify me  ;)

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=38113.msg1777100#msg1777100

I've had it almost 6 months and I like it but not quite as much as I was expecting to.  It took forever for this album to come out and I think all the mucking around, change of singer etc.......and constant delays meant it needed to be absolutely fantastic to keep me happy. A few great songs and plenty of decent ones.

I'm very much into Secret and Unisonic at the minute - neither of which I was expecting to be great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 22, 2014, 03:01:10 PM
Hmm. I thinnk I'll make my own mind up about that. A label guy isn't going to say it's total shite.  :biggrin: I hope he's right though.



Not the label it's released on  :P  I'm not that much of a sucka  ;)




Going to pimp this album by a young British band. I think you'll all like it - well maybe not Blob...  :biggrin:.


No need to pimpify me  ;)

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=38113.msg1777100#msg1777100

I've had it almost 6 months and I like it but not quite as much as I was expecting to.  It took forever for this album to come out and I think all the mucking around, change of singer etc.......and constant delays meant it needed to be absolutely fantastic to keep me happy. A few great songs and plenty of decent ones.

I'm very much into Secret and Unisonic at the minute - neither of which I was expecting to be great.

Well I wouldn't expect to sneak anything past you Brent!  :biggrin:
Not heard the Secret. Unisonic is excellent.

The NxN didn't hit me at first but I played it in the car today by accident, just picked a cd out blindly and didn't recognise it when it started. Really did it for me today.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 22, 2014, 04:16:55 PM
Copy and pasted from the album thread

Speaking of which - for those who've been chatting in the AOR thread about Work of Art , I'd suggest checking out the Secret album I noted in this thread today.  Similar style but more personality/conviction/variable sound ,much better guitar work and the singer sounds like a smoother Michael Bormann.  Nothing groundbreaking but a lot fresher than anything Work of Art are likely to produce. Bloody good album and the best new AOR album I've heard in a while actually.  When you consider that one guy played basically all instruments on the album + singer ........even more amazing.

Here's the opening track , which is one of the more basic , rocking tracks.  Gives you an idea of what they're capable of though.  Work of Art will have to do something amazing to get close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR_FLuKYvag

Didn't bowl me over, but the guitar solo was great.


That Night by Night wasn't bad either..


An interesting comment from a label guy with an advance copy of the new TEN album:

"Having been underwhelmed by the last few Ten albums, the new one is IMMENSE and even tops Name of the Rose for me as the best Ten album ever. Mr Hughes has definitely rediscovered his mojo."

We will see.  I liked Stormwarning.  The last one had aquite a few good songs, but a lot of really shit songs too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2014, 07:31:17 AM
The new Unisonic is incredible!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 23, 2014, 07:52:14 AM
Copy and pasted from the album thread

Speaking of which - for those who've been chatting in the AOR thread about Work of Art , I'd suggest checking out the Secret album I noted in this thread today.  Similar style but more personality/conviction/variable sound ,much better guitar work and the singer sounds like a smoother Michael Bormann.  Nothing groundbreaking but a lot fresher than anything Work of Art are likely to produce. Bloody good album and the best new AOR album I've heard in a while actually.  When you consider that one guy played basically all instruments on the album + singer ........even more amazing.

Here's the opening track , which is one of the more basic , rocking tracks.  Gives you an idea of what they're capable of though.  Work of Art will have to do something amazing to get close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR_FLuKYvag
Sounds much more like Mr Big if your ask me. WoA is not what pops up in my head when I listen to these guys atleast not this track. Will check the album out though. Sounds almost like you have something against WoA?  :lol They may be cheesy but my god it's good tasting cheese!
(https://fc04.deviantart.net/fs39/f/2008/335/4/1/Cheese_Love_by_BurgerBunny.gif)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 23, 2014, 07:55:22 AM

Didn't bowl me over, but the guitar solo was great.



That's sorta what I was getting at - it's a more basic Mr Big type rocker , look at me type song that shows their chops.  The rest of the album has more depth in the songwriting.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 23, 2014, 08:01:49 AM
WoA is not what pops up in my head when I listen to these guys atleast not this track. Will check the album out though. Sounds almost like you have something against WoA?  :lol They may be cheesy but my god it's good tasting cheese!
(https://fc04.deviantart.net/fs39/f/2008/335/4/1/Cheese_Love_by_BurgerBunny.gif)

As above - and I have nothing against WoA.  I bought their debut and follow up pretty much on release day and think Track 1 on the debut in particular is fan-fucking-tastic.  It's just that (as jingle.boy often notes)  "with so much other stuff out there........." I get tired real quick of bands whose songs (and now albums) all sound about the same.   I really want them to do well as they have one of , if not THE , best voice in AOR at the moment.

If I go back to bands like Van Halen that were big for me (or countless others) part of their magic was that every song (good or bad) had its own personality and every album had a very different vibe/sound.   That goes a long way to giving a band longevity.   Sure bands like AC/DC can get away with the opposite but on the whole I think it's a good rule , especially in the AOR style.  Work of Art's songs , especially after the second album , all just started to blend into each other for me.

Secret sound a bit like WoA on some tracks and not others (see - better already  ;D  )
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2014, 10:16:37 AM
(https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000088848100-94nc6q-t200x200.jpg?e76cf77)

Mindmaze new track - https://soundcloud.com/mindmaze-music-1/mindmaze-dreamwalker

New album is out end of October.  Sounds good to me!  They just got a record deal too - saw that Paul shared it FB.  Thanks pal :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 23, 2014, 12:36:15 PM
(https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000088848100-94nc6q-t200x200.jpg?e76cf77)

Mindmaze new track - https://soundcloud.com/mindmaze-music-1/mindmaze-dreamwalker

New album is out end of October.  Sounds good to me!  They just got a record deal too - saw that Paul shared it FB.  Thanks pal :tup

I commented on the news item at Melodicrock.com and it shared to Facebook. Didn't know it did that.
Anyway, I love MindMaze. So glad the vocals aren't of the operatic persuasion. I'm so over that. Stumped up for the kickstarter on the strength of the first album. Nice guys (and gal) too. I may have a little crush on Sarah too  :blush
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on August 23, 2014, 01:16:06 PM
So I had a Playlist today of rockin' tunes and Big City Nights starts and my wife yells out, "WE ARE THE SCORPIONS"!!

Yup, I'm lucky.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2014, 03:34:40 AM
Just listened to Billy Idol's new song.  It's one of the crappest things I've heard in a while.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on August 27, 2014, 06:56:05 AM
Just listened to Billy Idol's new song.  It's one of the crappest things I've heard in a while.

Gee, that's a shock.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 31, 2014, 03:29:00 PM
Seems Michael Schenker's band has been robbed - his guitars and the whole new album... from Doogie's Facebook.

Doogie White
UPDATE TO IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT.

Fellow Rawkers and Rawkettes, it saddens me to inform you that not only did the thieving bastards steal Michael Schenker's guitars but they have also made off with the hard-drives containing the tracks for the new TEMPLE OF ROCK album and the computer that had all the back-ups of our work.
It will take a moment or two for us to gather our thoughts and hatch new plans to re-record the whole thing.

As one moment in time is lost so another will take its place.

Really not best pleased but grateful to all of you who have posted, re-posted and shared. We can only wait and see what transpires over the next few days. Re-group and get down to business.
Very annoying but some nice new lyric ideas. "Round em up, Hang em High" Rather catchy dontcha think?

Please feel free to share this and if you have any info let us know
Cheers Doogie
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2014, 04:58:24 PM
Seriously, fuck people.  >:(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on August 31, 2014, 05:26:42 PM
What a bunch of pricks
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2014, 05:45:12 AM
TEN - 'ALBION' (Rocktopia Records) For all lovers of fine Melodic Hard Rock the wait is finally over!

British Hard rock giants TEN are returning with what is already being acclaimed as the best album in their history. ALBION is the title of the album, the term being the earliest documented name for the collective British Isles from the time of Queen Boadicia.

ALBION is fine collection of songs steeped in all the trademark essences associated with the band and is instantly recognisable as TEN.

This is classic Ten in every sense of the phrase.

New European based label ROCKTOPIA RECORDS are proud that this album will carry their prestigious RTP001 catalogue number.
In an exciting development, Gary and the guys have been so productive over the past year that ALBION will actually be the first of a two album release situation on ROCKTOPIA.

The second, as yet untitled album, to be released early next year. A schedule not unlike the historical situation when TEN was born, releasing their debut Ten and The Name Of The Rose in quick succession.

The collection of songs on ALBION are destined to become Melodic Hard Rock Anthems.

The Official Release Date for ALBION is November 21st Worldwide.
 
However ROCKTOPIA will be Pre-Releasing the Album to Direct Sales, only in Europe and America, from Monday 27th October. This follows TEN's Friday 24th October Firefest appearance where the album will be previewed and the first CD copies will be available.
 
ALBION will also represent another first for Ten with the release of a limited edition double gatefold vinyl album including many collectable items which will be an absolute must-have for fans of the band.
 
The name TEN is synonymous with some of the music genre's most striking album sleeves.
In keeping with this TEN tradition the artwork this time is provided by the exceptionally talented Gaetano Di Falco.

ALBION is produced by Gary Hughes and once again mixed and mastered by Dennis Ward.

This is an exciting era for TEN. It features all the familiar faces and one or two new ones who have integrated seamlessly, embellishing the Ten sound and taking things to yet another level. TEN are definitely firing on all cylinders.
 
More information on this will follow shortly in forthcoming TEN press releases.
We promise you that your patience will be rewarded.


(https://www.melodicrock.com/sites/default/files/ten-albion500.jpg)

Jeez, they are talking this up.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 01, 2014, 05:54:21 AM
Ten is one of those bands that always puts out quality stuff, but you're pretty much assured of what you're gonna get... like ARP, Royal Hunt and Jorn.  There's a couple of stinkers, and a couple of standouts, but for the most part, they're pretty consistent and enjoyable.  I'm bound to pick this one up.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2014, 06:00:35 AM
The last Ten album was probably their most inconsistent, with some of their best songs and some of their worst.  As discussed, the only album I really can't get into is Babylon.  Still looking forward to what they dish up here.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 01, 2014, 06:05:38 AM
True... H&C was pretty up and down.  Haven't spun it in over a year.  I liked Stormwarning though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2014, 06:29:27 AM
True... H&C was pretty up and down.  Haven't spun it in over a year.  I liked Stormwarning though.

Yep, that was pretty solid all the way through really.  It would be top 3 Ten for me, great record.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 01, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
Looking forward to this. That's alot to live up to in the press release.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on September 01, 2014, 02:03:11 PM
The usual hysterical press release, I take them all with a grain of salt.
The cover, I'm not sure if it looks cheap and tacky or not?

Ten have always been pretty consistent, but never delivered a total killer album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 01, 2014, 02:05:02 PM
The usual hysterical press release, I take them all with a grain of salt.
The cover, I'm not sure if it looks cheap and tacky or not?

Ten have always been pretty consistent, but never delivered a total killer album.

Name Of The Rose and Spellbound are killer for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2014, 05:05:35 PM
Name of the Rose is definitely a super killer melodic rock album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 01, 2014, 06:30:37 PM
It appears that Jimi Jamison has passed away , aged 63  :-\
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 01, 2014, 07:24:01 PM
The usual hysterical press release, I take them all with a grain of salt.
The cover, I'm not sure if it looks cheap and tacky or not?

Ten have always been pretty consistent, but never delivered a total killer album.

I would agree with wolfking that The Name of the Rose is the best of the bunch and a really great album .

Re the cover - I don't like it.  Not sure whether it's "tacky"/cheap/pissweak or what , but it just doesn't look right to me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on September 01, 2014, 07:48:12 PM
It appears that Jimi Jamison has passed away , aged 63  :-\

Dammit.  Dammit to all hell.  It's true.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/jimi-jamison-survivor-lead-singer-dead-at-63-20140901
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2014, 08:17:50 PM
It appears that Jimi Jamison has passed away , aged 63  :-\

Dammit.  Dammit to all hell.  It's true.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/jimi-jamison-survivor-lead-singer-dead-at-63-20140901

What the fuck?!

A heart attack.  Man, he actually seemed quite fit.  This is really scary.  SO fucking sad.  His last solo album was great, will play it tonight along with Too Hot to Sleep.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on September 01, 2014, 08:46:09 PM
The usual hysterical press release, I take them all with a grain of salt.
The cover, I'm not sure if it looks cheap and tacky or not?

Ten have always been pretty consistent, but never delivered a total killer album.

I would agree with wolfking that The Name of the Rose is the best of the bunch and a really great album .


Just checked it out on YouTube. Couldn't get passed the title track. *shrugs*
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2014, 09:12:40 PM
The usual hysterical press release, I take them all with a grain of salt.
The cover, I'm not sure if it looks cheap and tacky or not?

Ten have always been pretty consistent, but never delivered a total killer album.

I would agree with wolfking that The Name of the Rose is the best of the bunch and a really great album .


Just checked it out on YouTube. Couldn't get passed the title track. *shrugs*

Don't bother checking anything else out then.

Man, I spinning Never Too Late now, still can't believe this news about Jimi.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 01, 2014, 10:46:04 PM
It appears that Jimi Jamison has passed away , aged 63  :-\

Dammit.  Dammit to all hell.  It's true.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/jimi-jamison-survivor-lead-singer-dead-at-63-20140901

What the fuck?!

A heart attack.  Man, he actually seemed quite fit.  This is really scary.  SO fucking sad.  His last solo album was great, will play it tonight along with Too Hot to Sleep.

I just happened to listen to Too Hot to Sleep, When Love Comes Down, and Empires yesterday, so today I'll definitely listen to Never Too Late and Vital Signs.
What a shock. He wasn't that old, and didn't seem to have any ongoing medical problems. I was looking forward to hearing some new Survivor with him. RIP Jimi Jamison.

That's both Jimi Jamison and Fergie Frederiksen this year, both coming off strong solo albums in the last couple of years.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: T-ski on September 01, 2014, 11:29:45 PM


(https://www.melodicrock.com/sites/default/files/ten-albion500.jpg)



that cover should be embarrassing to anyone involved with making it.  Also, how come no love for "The Robe"?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 01, 2014, 11:31:34 PM
I've said before that The Robe could've been their best album but it suffers from a god awful production/mix.  It seriously needs a going over and re-release.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 02, 2014, 01:21:53 AM
Awful news about Jimi. What a great singer.
RIP.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on September 02, 2014, 01:52:58 AM
I was just listening to some Jimi Jamison stuff online yesterday. Liked what I heard, and decided I'd probably buy some of his stuff. :-\
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 02, 2014, 03:37:52 AM
I still can't believe it. It wasn't like a lot of the other great musicians we've lost, who had long battles with cancer, where you expect that things could take a turn for the worse, it was just completely out of nowhere.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on September 02, 2014, 05:05:39 AM
Yeah I think my fave Ten album would be the double live Never Say Goodbye.
The sound is pretty strong and good all round performances.
Other than that, I'd say Spellbound is my fave studio recording.

I really do hope the new one is good, and hopefully better than that horrific cover.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2014, 05:17:57 AM
I still can't believe it. It wasn't like a lot of the other great musicians we've lost, who had long battles with cancer, where you expect that things could take a turn for the worse, it was just completely out of nowhere.

Yeah, that's what makes it so sad and scary, he seemed okay and in good health as far as we know.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on September 02, 2014, 01:54:16 PM
Well we don't know if he did have other health issues?
But people all round the world die of sudden heart attacks every day.
My dad did in 2007, AFAIK he had know health issues.
Can happen to anyone as we well know.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2014, 05:13:31 PM
Well we don't know if he did have other health issues?
But people all round the world die of sudden heart attacks every day.
My dad did in 2007, AFAIK he had know health issues.
Can happen to anyone as we well know.

Sorry to hear that man.  But you're right, cardiac arrest can happen to anyone, at anytime.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 02, 2014, 07:39:24 PM
New Mr. Big

https://classicrock.teamrock.com/news/2014-09-02/mr-big-premiere-gotta-love-the-ride

hhmmmm... no complaints.  I'll listen on release day, but not sure it's an outright purchase.  Gilbert's solo is brilliant (as is to be expected).  Not so sure about the melody... more bluesly than rock, and I rarely liked their blues vibe.  Give me some hard core rock guys!  The good news is Eric sure as hell sounds better than Jeff Keith!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2014, 07:46:50 PM
I didn't really dig that to be honest.  It's just nothing new or special and didn't hold my interest.  A bit disappointing after what the last album gave us.  It could be a grower and I'll definitely still give the album a go.

But damn, that cover is so shit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 02, 2014, 08:28:07 PM
Not rapt in that either - the verse is okay but the chorus......just plods. I won't read too much into what could be the single though.

  The good news is Eric sure as hell sounds better than Jeff Keith!

Eric Martin seems to be ageless , both vocally and the looks.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 02, 2014, 08:56:52 PM
That album cover is terrible
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 03, 2014, 05:07:24 AM
That album cover is terrible

I don't know what they were thinking.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 03, 2014, 06:41:49 AM
Mr. Big....What's with these bands loaded with talent that put out such mediocre music. I felt that way in 1990 too.

Jimi Jamesson died? Wow!
I wore this cassette out when I was a kid:

(https://img829.imageshack.us/img829/6222/cobrafirststrike300x300.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 03, 2014, 07:08:52 AM
That album cover is terrible

All Mr. Big album covers are terrible, I sometimes think they do it on purpose. Maybe the first one was decent, but the rest? No way. Wouldn't surprise me if it was PGs idea, he seems to have that twisted kind of humor.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 03, 2014, 08:14:30 AM
That album cover is terrible

All Mr. Big album covers are terrible, I sometimes think they do it on purpose. Maybe the first one was decent, but the rest? No way. Wouldn't surprise me if it was PGs idea, he seems to have that twisted kind of humor.

I was thinking exactly that.  Lean Into It and Bump Ahead are retarded.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 03, 2014, 01:13:41 PM
Mr. Big....What's with these bands loaded with talent that put out such mediocre music. I felt that way in 1990 too.

Jimi Jamesson died? Wow!
I wore this cassette out when I was a kid:

(https://img829.imageshack.us/img829/6222/cobrafirststrike300x300.jpg)

Played that yesterday. What a great singer. He had one of those voices that was always a pleasure to listen to. I have some friends who knew him and he was a great guy too by all accounts.

And as to Mr Big I enjoyed the first 2 well enough but they did just lack that something exceptional. I think it was in the production. Sheehan, like Steve Harris, unbalances a mix for me with where he spends alot of his time.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 03, 2014, 03:23:52 PM
I didn't really dig that to be honest.  It's just nothing new or special and didn't hold my interest.  A bit disappointing after what the last album gave us.  It could be a grower and I'll definitely still give the album a go.

But damn, that cover is so shit.

I quite liked it. Didn't love it. The solo is glorious (duh).
Eric Martin is a great singer but here and certainly on the last album he just sounds weird. I can't put my finger on what it is here. Last time out it was the stupid distortion Shirley put on alot of it. It all used to sound effortless for him but now it sounds like he's struggling. He's certainly not rubbish - maybe its just his tone has changed with age.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on September 03, 2014, 04:09:08 PM
Played all the Jimi lead Survivor albums today plus "The Moment Of Truth & Burning Heart" today all the way up to Reach at work.  Damn it's too bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 04, 2014, 07:37:39 PM
I just read that in addition to Whitesnake , Joel Hoekstra has two thirds finished an album with Tony Franklin, Vinnie Appice and Russell Allen.  Could be interesting.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on September 04, 2014, 08:20:14 PM
I want a studio or official live version of that song Russell did with TSO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 05, 2014, 06:30:48 AM
I just read that in addition to Whitesnake , Joel Hoekstra has two thirds finished an album with Tony Franklin, Vinnie Appice and Russell Allen.  Could be interesting.

If RA is "singing" that could be good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2014, 06:47:54 AM
I just read that in addition to Whitesnake , Joel Hoekstra has two thirds finished an album with Tony Franklin, Vinnie Appice and Russell Allen.  Could be interesting.

If RA is "singing" that could be good.

Yeah, I'll definitely eat this up.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 07, 2014, 09:20:22 PM
Harem Scarem update:

https://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/haremscarem
Quote
Hey all!

Wed like to invite you and welcome you to our first ever Pledge Music campaign! Were very excited to have you guys on board for this.

This is our 13th studio album cleverly entitledThirteen. with a 13-week run on pledge music.

During the thirteen week campaign, every week well be putting up a new video with tons of studio updates and behind-the-scenes footage.
Well take you through the process of recording guitars and vocals and give you a run down of some of the equipment we use. Youre going to be there for the recording of all the key parts of the record as well as the mixing process. Its going to be super cool weve never done anything like this before so were very excited.

So why are we doing this? Well, basically we were out on tour last year and we ran into and reconnected with all of our fans and were actually very pleasantly surprised about the level of interest in the band. Its been 6 years since our last studio album and were feeling rejuvenate and couldnt be more excited about the new tunes!

Were about to start recording now and were going to bring you inside and show you how we do it.

To get started, week #2 is going to be a question-and-answer with us. So leave your questions in the comments section and will be a recording
video answers to the ones we pick and well see you next week!

Thanks for all the support!

H&P

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2014, 05:13:47 AM
Definitely looking forward to some new HS material.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 08, 2014, 12:54:33 PM
Pledged. Its at 97% already.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 08, 2014, 12:57:15 PM
As did I this morning.  CD and T-shirt package.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2014, 05:05:41 PM
As did I this morning.  CD and T-shirt package.

I might go for this package too. Hopefully it includes shipping for me.  :\
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 08, 2014, 05:21:54 PM
OK, I tried the haren Scaren album that J Boy had in his Top 50. Seriously did nothing for me. Could each of you guys link me an awesome track? WTF am I missing here?

Does your pledge count as a purchase, or is it just to raise money, and then you still have to buy the album?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2014, 05:25:31 PM
OK, I tried the haren Scaren album that J Boy had in his Top 50. Seriously did nothing for me. Could each of you guys link me an awesome track? WTF am I missing here?

Does your pledge count as a purchase, or is it just to raise money, and then you still have to buy the album?

If you didn't like Mood Swings then there's probably not much hope for you regarding Harem Scarem.  You could check a couple of the later ones like Weight of the World, Overload or maybe Hope.  But Mood Swings is by far their best album.

In the link there are multiple packages.  Most include the cd, depending on how much you spend.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 08, 2014, 05:26:30 PM
Mood Swings..that's it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 08, 2014, 05:58:31 PM
Yeah, if Mood Swings didn't float your boat, there's no hope for you and Scarem.

The packages do include the album though... as low as $10 for a digital download of the album - essentially an iTunes pre-order.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 08, 2014, 07:54:27 PM
I haven't heard all of the material from Harem Scarem, but I can't imagine anything would come even close to Mood Swings
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2014, 07:56:47 PM
I haven't heard all of the material from Harem Scarem, but I can't imagine anything would come even close to Mood Swings

That's correct.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 08, 2014, 08:34:52 PM
The HS debut is a great slice of AOR but probably not up your alley JJ  -  I reckon Believe (released as "Karma Cleansing in Canada) is a massively under rated album and the one that comes closest to sounding like Mood Swings.  Not as good but damn good all the same.  Pretty much everything they did after that album , aside from perhaps Weight of the World was dialled in IMO.   

The single from the Believe album was Die Off Hard :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Mr1jHknYI


Also have a listen to the fairly heavy Staying Away (with drummer Darren Smith on vox) : https://youtu.be/dvBbUDmd5AI

which was a big fave of mine back in the day.  Nothing he did on Red Dragon Cartel sounds this good.  Had to upload this one myself- seems nobody else likes it  :D  Sound quality isn't the best after flv conversion unfortunately.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 08, 2014, 08:43:14 PM
Beleive might be my second fav after Mood Swings, it's fantastic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 08, 2014, 09:56:00 PM
In around 21 hrs from this post there's a free stream of Aerosmith's final US tour date here

https://screen.yahoo.com/live/event/aerosmith

I saw them (twice) last year in Australia and Tyler was fantabulous.


Also good to see Foreigner returning to Australian shores again in January (same venue as DT in Melbourne).  I'm not sure if I can make it along this time but the previous time - Hansen's first tour with them - was one of the better gigs I've attended.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 09, 2014, 12:06:01 PM
I don't have the same hardon for Mood Swings as some. I heard 2-3 other albums before it (Weight Of The World, Higher and Overload) all of which I thought were excellent for a mixture of new and old AOR?melodic rock.
Mood Swings is excellent, don't get me wrong, but I enjoy those others I mentioned, and the debut, as much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWAMdJtpxJw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRJwcowTYA8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJqf9umRB3A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLLY9F4O8Iw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SUNsltCfpc
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 09, 2014, 02:28:23 PM
New track from Lynch Sweet project. I like it. Nice to hear George back in the melodic rock world. It's no lynch Mob I & II but it's decent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 09, 2014, 03:34:29 PM
I thought the Sweet/Lynch track was solid.  Nothing spectacular though
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2014, 05:41:59 AM
Aquiles Priester is the new Primal Fear drummer.

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net/media/primalfearaquiles_638.jpg)

A bit of a step down from DT, but good on him.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2014, 05:46:26 AM
Another new Mr Big track;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oTrAhP4tVxA

I'm not really digging this one either.  It just comes across as rock by numbers to me without any real depth or character.  Might not even pick this one up.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2014, 05:51:37 AM
Don Dokken and Mark Boals performing In My Dreams;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jLQPOzEDTfg

What the fuck is Boals thinking with that wig, bloody hell, should ask for a refund for that one.  Don seems lost the whole time and can't find his harmony line.  I knew Mark carried Don on Broken Bones but didn't know they were doing shit together.  Mark, I think TMac is calling you.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 10, 2014, 02:00:46 PM
Another new Mr Big track;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oTrAhP4tVxA

I'm not really digging this one either.  It just comes across as rock by numbers to me without any real depth or character.  Might not even pick this one up.

What's with Eric Martin these days? Really not enjoying his voice at all - he just doesn't seem to sit well in the music these days. The music is fine. Nothing earth shattering but fine. PG is always awesome.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 10, 2014, 03:03:32 PM
Wolf, is the new drummer for a Primal Fear an upgrade or downgrade from Randy?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2014, 03:49:00 PM
Wolf, is the new drummer for a Primal Fear an upgrade or downgrade from Randy?

He plays for Angra and auditioned for DT, so he's definitely no downgrade, he's a beast.  I think I'd definitely take him over Randy.  He's definitely more versatile and a bit more groovy than Randy.  I think he could do some good things for the band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jBK3j5LA6E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQsCulwCrvQ
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 10, 2014, 05:12:05 PM
Nice to hear! I think Primal Fear is due for a live album soon with their contract, so this would be a great chance to show him off
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 11, 2014, 06:43:11 PM
Just got an advance listen to an album by Skyscraper (new melrock project featuring Lee Small from Shy on vocals)..............I was really looking forward to it but , aside from one track , it's predictable, derivative crap.  :-\

You were right about that Death Dealer too Kade..........absolute shite for the most part.  The opening track in particular was horrid.  I didn't make it through many whole songs.  It got great reviews too .
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2014, 08:32:56 PM
Just got an advance listen to an album by Skyscraper (new melrock project featuring Lee Small from Shy on vocals)..............I was really looking forward to it but , aside from one track , it's predictable, derivative crap.  :-\

You were right about that Death Dealer too Kade..........absolute shite for the most part.  The opening track in particular was horrid.  I didn't make it through many whole songs.  It got great reviews too .

I listened to a track from Skyscraper on youtube too the other day.  It was fine but nothing I'd probably invest my time in, and definitely won't know from your comments.

Yeah, I went searching for reviews on Death Dealer to see if I was alone in my opinions, and it seemed so.  I saw mostly really positive reviews too.  I don't think I made it through the whole thing either.  I think I remembered a couple of reviews saying that this is what Priest should have done after Painkiller, or this is basically a second coming of Painkiller, which made me loose my shit in laughter.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2014, 06:51:27 AM
Not that many of you guys are into it, but, new Work of Art video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nP0Y_OqyMlk

So much glorious 80's style cheese, love it.  Robert Sall is a damn good guitarist though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 12, 2014, 08:12:56 AM
Not that many of you guys are into it, but, new Work of Art video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nP0Y_OqyMlk

So much glorious 80's style cheese, love it.  Robert Sall is a damn good guitarist though.

Nice enough song and I love the guy's voice (he could probably do DT songs justice).................but...............about as predictable as my response :neverusethis:

You could sub that track in to either of their other albums and I probably wouldn't notice the difference.  I won't be buying this as I don't hear anything I haven't already heard.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 12, 2014, 04:13:45 PM
Not that many of you guys are into it, but, new Work of Art video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nP0Y_OqyMlk

So much glorious 80's style cheese, love it.  Robert Sall is a damn good guitarist though.
Never heard of them. I don't know what to think. I'm torn between I really like them or it's really lame. :lol

Great vocals and guitar though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Podaar on September 12, 2014, 04:55:22 PM
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Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2014, 05:02:28 PM
Not that many of you guys are into it, but, new Work of Art video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nP0Y_OqyMlk

So much glorious 80's style cheese, love it.  Robert Sall is a damn good guitarist though.
Never heard of them. I don't know what to think. I'm torn between I really like them or it's really lame. :lol

Great vocals and guitar though.

Haha.  Yeah, vox and guitar are great.  They are one of those guilty pleasure cheesy bands you gotta tell yourself it's okay to like, as long as you put something heavy on right after them.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 12, 2014, 07:31:47 PM
I thought Work of Art was a Piece of Shit
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 12, 2014, 08:26:04 PM
I thought Work of Art was a Piece of Shit

Well, THAT'S a little harsh.  It's the powder puff or cotton candy of melodic rock.  Good in limited quantities, but no real lasting or harmful effects.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 12, 2014, 09:22:20 PM
I thought Work of Art was a Piece of Shit

Honesty is the best policy  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 12, 2014, 09:52:01 PM
yeah I'm as cheesy as it gets, but that was just too sappy
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2014, 09:56:14 PM
I thought Work of Art was a Piece of Shit

haha, so I'm guessing you didn't like it then?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2014, 09:56:50 PM
yeah I'm as cheesy as it gets, but that was just too sappy

It's a different kind of cheesy.  Nothing heavy about their music whatsoever.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 12, 2014, 09:59:08 PM
Sounds like yet another Frontiers records song/album. Not bad, but nothing new or original. Sounds better compared to the usual fare, but not by much.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2014, 10:01:32 PM
Sounds like yet another Frontiers records song/album. Not bad, but nothing new or original. Sounds better compared to the usual fare, but not by much.

This is their third album, but the other two have been pretty much the same.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 12, 2014, 10:05:20 PM
Sounds like yet another Frontiers records song/album. Not bad, but nothing new or original. Sounds better compared to the usual fare, but not by much.

This is their third album, but the other two have been pretty much the same.

I think I checked out their first album at the time (and probably heard the single from the second album at the time), but I can't remember anything of it, I guess for that reason.
It's not that it's bad music, it's just no different to 99% of other Frontiers album. Cookie cutter production and songwriting, bring in next band, repeat.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 12, 2014, 10:06:05 PM
Has anybody heard any further reviews about the upcoming Allen/Lande?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 12, 2014, 10:09:15 PM
Has anybody heard any further reviews about the upcoming Allen/Lande?

I read that Andrew from melodicrock.com has heard it and said it was decent.  He had the same fears about Tolkki taking over.  I think he said it wasn't up to par as the first three, but not as bad as everyone expected.  I don't really care about it to be honest, it just seems like a totally different product now, and the mood, magic and atmosphere surrounding it is gone.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 12, 2014, 10:12:05 PM
copy, I'm still getting it and hoping for something above average
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on September 12, 2014, 10:15:08 PM
I'll stream it when possible, but I can't imagine it being worthy of purchase.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 13, 2014, 04:39:30 AM
I'll stream it when possible, but I can't imagine it being worthy of purchase.

Ditto.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 15, 2014, 03:10:03 AM
Work of Art - Can't Let Go (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP0Y_OqyMlk&feature=youtu.be)

Much better than the previous song I heard. The music is like a happy trip to the 80s but with a modern sound. :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2014, 05:00:00 AM
Work of Art - Can't Let Go (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP0Y_OqyMlk&feature=youtu.be)

Much better than the previous song I heard. The music is like a happy trip to the 80s but with a modern sound. :)

Not that many of you guys are into it, but, new Work of Art video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nP0Y_OqyMlk

So much glorious 80's style cheese, love it.  Robert Sall is a damn good guitarist though.

 :tup  Great song anyway, I'm digging it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 15, 2014, 05:12:27 AM
Oups, missed your post. Oh well more WoA to the people. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2014, 05:36:52 AM
Oups, missed your post. Oh well more WoA to the people. :biggrin:

Yeah, eat it up jj.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 15, 2014, 07:27:56 AM
Yes, let's silence the naysayers with the force of cheese and 11th chords!  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 18, 2014, 02:35:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTRpmdmTQKw&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop

Samples of 3 songs from the upcoming Crazy Lixx album. I thought New Religion was a great album, one of the best modern 80s style melrock albums, but the follow up, Riot Avenue was poor. This sounds closer to NR soundwise and sounds like a return to form.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 18, 2014, 07:22:11 PM
It definitely sounds better than Riot Avenue, which I also thought was pretty poor, but it doesn't sound like it will touch New Religion, which was great. I don't think the songwriting quality is there on this new one. I think New Religion was just a one-off for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 18, 2014, 09:30:20 PM
It definitely sounds better than Riot Avenue, which I also thought was pretty poor, but it doesn't sound like it will touch New Religion, which was great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 19, 2014, 07:05:06 AM
Oh come on Timo, at least you usually just rip yourself off, now you gotta rip off other bands?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3_OvrGEbMvo
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 19, 2014, 09:39:38 AM
Oh come on Timo, at least you usually just rip yourself off, now you gotta rip off other bands?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3_OvrGEbMvo


I love this Allen/Lande tune.  Even if the rest of the album is subpar, this is worth it for me.  With that being said, "Edge of Thorns" is one of my all time favorite songs.  And this tune is identical to it, so I'm biased.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 19, 2014, 09:43:36 AM
Good song but yeah.............about as subtle as a sledgehammer .
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 19, 2014, 10:28:42 AM
Jeez.
Savatage rang. They want their song back. I like this song, but there again I liked it when it was Edge Of Thorns too. Very naughty. How did no-one catch that?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 19, 2014, 12:49:29 PM
This has to be up there all time as one of the most sound alike songs
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2014, 03:36:11 AM
This has to be up there all time as one of the most sound alike songs

Definitely.  The thing is, it's so many identical sections.  The piano into, the entering chords and drums entering during the intro, the identical chugging and then the melody from the first line from Jorn.  As you said, it's a decent song, but what the hell?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 21, 2014, 12:35:55 PM
At what point does the copyright aspect come into play?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 21, 2014, 01:15:29 PM
At what point does the copyright aspect come into play?

At the point it makes some money  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2014, 05:10:31 AM
Yeah, there would absolutely be no point in Savatage pursuing this at all.  If Nickelback or Creed did though, then they could be onto something.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2014, 05:19:54 AM
So........Ten now are a 7 piece.  2 lead guitarists and 1 rhythm guitarist.  has this happened before?  :lol Skynard, Eagles?  Now Ten.

British melodic rock giants TEN, who will release their new album 'Albion' November 21, have announced two new members. The band has revamped its lineup with the addition of guiarist Dann Rosingana and guitarist Steve Grocott.

For years Gary Hughes has toyed with the idea of bringing even more power and width into the TEN live sound. They are two highly skilled individuals and the aim is to bring twin lead guitar back into play whilst not detracting from the solid and powerful backdrop which is trademark TEN.

Gary commented: "The arrival of Dann and Steve will enable the band to play more of the layers in TEN's studio sound live on stage."

Dann is a very gifted guitar player with a very bluesy edge. Combining speed and melody perfectly in his solo work. He was born Barrow-in-Furness Cumbria, and has been playing guitar since the age of 10. Dann also plays keyboards and sings. His previous Bands include: Shellshocked, A2Z, Hysteria and Yorkshire based club band, Jagged Edge.

Steve is an incredibly versitile guitar player. Combining stunning technical ability with harmony and melody. Creating light and shade in breathtaking abundance with his solo work. Steve hails from Staffordshire and has been playing guitar since the age of 12. His previous bands include AOR band Sevendayz.

ALBION is the first of the 2 new albums to feature lead guitarwork by Dann and Steve.

TEN veteran, the formidable John Halliwell, once again provides the power guitar backdrop and both new additions will share the lead duties and twin together to bring a new dimension to the solo aspect of TEN live sound.

TEN are:

Gary Hughes - Vocals
Dann Rosingana - Guitars
Steve Grocott - Guitars
John Halliwell - Guitars
Steve Mckenna - Bass
Darrel Treece-Birch - Keyboards
Max Yates - Drums

Beginning with their October UK appearance at Firefest, TEN will emerge as a new look 7 piece, for the first time featuring the triple guitar attack that will bring a new dimension to the established British Melodic Rock giants.


This seems absolutely pointless to me, but what the hell hey?  I expect a shit load of guitars on the new album.  A shame as I was looking forward to hearing the guy he got on H&C again, he had some chops.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 23, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
Ten have sounded muddy enough over the years without adding another guitar in there. Can't see the need for 3 guitars at all. Even Maiden don't need 3 guitars.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2014, 04:12:28 PM
Ten have sounded muddy enough over the years without adding another guitar in there. Can't see the need for 3 guitars at all. Even Maiden don't need 3 guitars.

Agree on both counts.  I like the three amigos, but yeah, they don't need 3 at all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2014, 05:35:29 AM
https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/tour-news/2014/09/23/yngwie-malmsteen-announces-2015-australian-tour

Malmsteen Aussie tour.  Fuck I wish Ripper was still singing, I'd be there in a flash.  Saw him with Doogie quite a few years back and it was a good show.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2014, 06:03:38 AM
Not really digging this new Mr Big.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7u55uJgX2c
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 24, 2014, 02:02:25 PM
Not really digging this new Mr Big.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7u55uJgX2c

I like the music but find Eric's voice a bit weird these days and I can't work out why. Still, I quite like this. I have been listening to some bluesier stuff just recently.

Vinnie Moore's Red Line Rider album sounds in a similar vein but better.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 24, 2014, 02:06:47 PM
Not really digging this new Mr Big.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7u55uJgX2c
I have such indifference for that.

Vinnie Moore's Red Line Rider album sounds in a similar vein but better.
Never heard of that. Is there a vocalist? Who?

Edit: Youtubed a track from the Vinnie Moore. End Of The Rainbow I think. Pretty crappy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2014, 04:20:24 PM
Yeah, I wasn't too keen on what I heard from them either.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 24, 2014, 06:08:39 PM
That new Mr Big is an average song at best
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2014, 08:02:11 PM
That new Mr Big is an average song at best

Just like the other couple they have released.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 25, 2014, 05:18:47 AM
That new Mr Big is an average song at best
Have they ever done anything that wasn't average?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 25, 2014, 05:29:43 AM
That new Mr Big is an average song at best
Have they ever done anything that wasn't average?

Albums... not really.

Individual songs, yes.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2014, 05:31:03 AM
I thought What If... as a whole was really damn solid.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 25, 2014, 05:33:37 AM
That new Mr Big is an average song at best
Have they ever done anything that wasn't average?

Albums... not really.

Individual songs, yes.

Well that's just it.  Honestly, I never checked anything out after their debut, which was disappointing to say the least. I think the only song that caught my ear was Addicted To That Rush. I didn't even think it was that great, but compred to the rest of that album, it was the only stand out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 25, 2014, 06:40:52 AM
Only two songs from Mr Big really caught my attention.  "Addicted to that Rush" is a great song, and the other was "Strike Like Lighting" from the movie Navy Seals.

I want nothing to do with those ballads that they did.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 25, 2014, 07:21:28 AM
Only two songs from Mr Big really caught my attention.  "Addicted to that Rush" is a great song, and the other was "Strike Like Lighting" from the movie Navy Seals.

I want nothing to do with those ballads that they did.

No shit.  To Be With You should spend 30 days in a hole.  Or 30 years. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: NunoTenniscourt on September 28, 2014, 10:44:31 PM

Holy shit at the "Edge of Thorns" ripoff. That was no accident.


Only two songs from Mr Big really caught my attention.  "Addicted to that Rush" is a great song, and the other was "Strike Like Lighting" from the movie Navy Seals.

I want nothing to do with those ballads that they did.

I love me some power ballads, but "To Be With You" is unbearably bad. I absolutely loathe it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2014, 05:06:59 AM
Holy shit at the "Edge of Thorns" ripoff. That was no accident.

I think that's what makes it so hard to accept.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 29, 2014, 08:04:20 AM
That new Mr Big is an average song at best
Have they ever done anything that wasn't average?

I thought the first three albums (Mr. Big, Lean Into It and Bump Ahead) were good to great and Hey Man was decent to good.  I even liked some of the ballads but To Be With You was horrendous from the beginning. I was never keen on the Kotzen albums and the reunion didn't really klick with me either.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2014, 06:08:49 PM
Just ordered this from Dungeon/Lord

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0rolNzcYJS4

https://www.lord.net.au/store/#!/LORD-The-Dungeon-Era-PRE-SALE-BUNDLE/p/42488261/category=4493158

 :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 04, 2014, 07:23:19 AM
Just ordered this from Dungeon/Lord

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0rolNzcYJS4

https://www.lord.net.au/store/#!/LORD-The-Dungeon-Era-PRE-SALE-BUNDLE/p/42488261/category=4493158

 :metal

Dayum!!!!  Wonder how much shipping to Canada is?  I never could find those Dungeon albums after I went looking for them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 04, 2014, 07:37:25 AM
Just ordered this from Dungeon/Lord

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0rolNzcYJS4

https://www.lord.net.au/store/#!/LORD-The-Dungeon-Era-PRE-SALE-BUNDLE/p/42488261/category=4493158

 :metal


Dayum!!!!  Wonder how much shipping to Canada is?  I never could find those Dungeon albums after I went looking for them.
Dayum x2!! Never heard of them. That sounds fantastic!!

I'll wait till it shows up on Amazon.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 04, 2014, 01:49:08 PM
Tim, go check some of The Lord stuff. Great material.  I think it's on Grooveshark.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 04, 2014, 02:55:20 PM
Tim, go check some of The Lord stuff. Great material.  I think it's on Grooveshark.
I ordered Digital Lies today. Holy Shiite!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 04, 2014, 07:30:18 PM
Tim, go check some of The Lord stuff. Great material.  I think it's on Grooveshark.
I ordered Digital Lies today. Holy Shiite!

And that's not even their best. Give Set in Stone a spin.  Top 50 (v2) worthy over here.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 04, 2014, 09:08:42 PM
This sort of discussion is what I created the hard rock/metal thread for  :P ..........



................crosses Lord off my TAC roulette list.  :\   ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 04, 2014, 09:29:45 PM
Sure, not QUITE the right genre, but all the cool kids hang out here.  :P

And shouldn't you be concentrating more on MY upcoming roulette?!?!?!  Tim's is still a lot longer down the road.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 05, 2014, 10:42:59 AM
Right you are - rightly or wrongly I have a feeling I have a lot less in my collection that will appeal to Tim and so when I hear something that I think fits the bill I've been noting it so I don't forget.  Not forgetting you  ;D

I'm also really struggling with what Winger track to submit to Tim and so I'm putting plenty of thought into that too.  ;)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 05, 2014, 02:38:32 PM
Rule #1 of my Roullette will be that that will cause an immediate and painful disqualification!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 05, 2014, 06:35:47 PM
Then it's going to be a lonely roulette... Because we all had a little pow-wow, and decided you were going to have a 'Winger' round.  :rollin :lol :rollin
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 05, 2014, 06:36:55 PM
Rule #1 of my Roullette will be that that will cause an immediate and painful disqualification!

Hmm - punishment.  Well I'll get in first..........you'll be having nightmares even before the roulette starts   :lol

(https://s2.postimg.org/sdz35y2kp/kip.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on October 05, 2014, 08:14:48 PM
Dammit.  My eyes! :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 05, 2014, 09:40:19 PM
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2014, 05:07:38 AM
Such a beastly hunk of man.


Tim, go check some of The Lord stuff. Great material.  I think it's on Grooveshark.
I ordered Digital Lies today. Holy Shiite!

And that's not even their best. Give Set in Stone a spin.  Top 50 (v2) worthy over here.

Fuck yeah to all of this.  Digital Lies was amazing but I agree with Chad that Set in Stone tops it.  Ascendance has some really great songs too and is worth a listen.  All the Dungeon stuff IMO is worth it, I can't wait for my boxset.

Chad, it was $10 to post within Australia and I'm in the state right next to Tim so I reckon you'll pay a big amount for shipping to you.  Hopefully they will release the 4 cd's seperately.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2014, 06:03:28 AM
Speaking of Winger;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PAMyrZur9Q

Queen Babylon video with a new fuckin' cool as extended jamming outro!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 06, 2014, 12:45:31 PM
That post is REPORTED!!

Bosk..oh Bosk..
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 06, 2014, 02:11:10 PM
That post is REPORTED!!

Bosk..oh Bosk..

Reported for AWESOMENESS!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 07, 2014, 03:28:15 AM
New Crazy Lixx album out soon. Sounds more promising than the last one, a bit closer to new Religion than the sound of the last one which I wasn't a fan of. We'll see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRQdKszgKVM
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 07, 2014, 09:18:54 PM
The Crazy Lixx to me sounds a lot better than the last but still not close to New Religion.............we'll see.


Just getting through my first listen of Red Zone Riders -  I need to be in the mood for the more laid back bluesy stuff but as Paul said it's pretty damn good for what it is.   I'd actually say that Kelly Keeling's voice is perfectly suited to this style - perhaps more so than his rock stuff with Baton Rouge and so forth.  And Vinnie has cheated my ratings system a bit - a couple of songs I wasn't all that rapt in still got good marks purely due to the guitar solo :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 07, 2014, 09:25:31 PM
The Crazy Lixx to me sounds a lot better than the last but still not close to New Religion.............we'll see.

I don't expect it will be as good as New Religion, but it could be a solid rock album. I'm liking the sound of it so far.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2014, 05:21:46 AM
Rated X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkmWYqztVi8

Really simple and straight forward, but I'm digging this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 08, 2014, 05:25:02 AM
That's one I'll probably check out. Nothing really original, but I'm all for straightforward rock., and it sounds like it might be ok.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2014, 05:30:01 AM
Yeah, the lineup helps too.  I'm unfamiliar with the guitarist, but his work on this song is really good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2014, 05:30:25 AM
Another new song from Vega;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXm9w2C0x8c
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 08, 2014, 05:33:58 AM
Yeah, the lineup helps too.  I'm unfamiliar with the guitarist, but his work on this song is really good.

I'm not familiar with him either, but I like his style. Production sounds good too, not the cheap tinny metal sound.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2014, 05:37:12 AM
Yeah, the lineup helps too.  I'm unfamiliar with the guitarist, but his work on this song is really good.

I'm not familiar with him either, but I like his style. Production sounds good too, not the cheap tinny metal sound.

Yeah, I'm really impressed with his style too, very tasteful.  Joe sounds good too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 08, 2014, 05:47:50 AM
I like JLT's voice, but don't really have a lot of music with him on it. I think I have Rainbow - Bent Out of Shape, and that's it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 08, 2014, 07:11:21 AM
I have shiteloads of music with JLT - don't tell me you don't have Odyssey by Malmsteen Blob?? 

The guitarist is Karl Cochran who's never been a big name but does have a long history with JLT and also a few KISS projects (Frehley's Comet , ESP and a co-write with Ace on Psycho Circus).  Last I heard he'd had a stroke and was in a coma , so presumably he's come out of it well.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 08, 2014, 07:14:17 AM
I'm generally very put off by solo guitarists like that, although I haven't really checked out a lot of Malmsteen's stuff yet.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 08, 2014, 07:19:01 AM
You certainly need to be picky with guitar wankery but Odyssey is acknowledged widely as Malmsteen's most restrained and commercial effort.

Try

Crystal Ball  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZSCt9w8DEc
Deja Vu  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csNuqnlYkl8
Heaven Tonight  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWp4ozv_8N8
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 08, 2014, 07:26:03 AM
I liked all of those. I just went to add the album to Spotify to check out, only to find I'd already added it at some point. I really need to go through it all some time. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 08, 2014, 07:28:03 AM
It was in my Top 50 too .......
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 08, 2014, 07:30:29 AM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's why I added it in the first place. :tup

I'm very much liking Heaven Tonight. On my second listen already.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 08, 2014, 07:53:21 AM
Odyssey is an excellent release from Malmsteen. After this album, I lost some interest until the Ripper albums.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2014, 05:45:55 PM
Odyssey is definitely top 3 Yngwie for me, incredible album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 08, 2014, 06:53:29 PM
The live album that Yngwie/JLT released from this album is awesome too!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2014, 06:59:36 PM
The live album that Yngwie/JLT released from this album is awesome too!

The video was even better.  A shame that the DVD released a few years ago didn't have the complete show.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 08, 2014, 09:25:50 PM
The only thing that I found strange about that live release is that it ignores the album "Marching Out"; my favorite Yngwie album. I wonder what the reason for that was
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 09, 2014, 03:33:46 PM
It was in my Top 50 too .......
And mine  :biggrin:
Yngwie's worst guitar playing too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 09, 2014, 03:35:43 PM
The Crazy Lixx to me sounds a lot better than the last but still not close to New Religion.............we'll see.

I don't expect it will be as good as New Religion, but it could be a solid rock album. I'm liking the sound of it so far.

Chris Laney mixed it so it sounds better than the last album. Would have preferred him to produce as well but certainly sounds good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 09, 2014, 03:37:30 PM
I was very late to the Oddyssey party. I thought Trilogy sucked (still do), then I saw those horrific promo shots of JLT and Yngwie, coupl ed with the horrid Heaven Tonight. I had no interest in it at all. It was only about 5-6 years ago that I gave it another chance, and the album as a whole is incredible. Heaven Tonight is still weak, but the rest is incredible. It's JLT at his absolute peak.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2014, 05:54:35 PM
I was very late to the Oddyssey party. I thought Trilogy sucked (still do), then I saw those horrific promo shots of JLT and Yngwie, coupl ed with the horrid Heaven Tonight. I had no interest in it at all. It was only about 5-6 years ago that I gave it another chance, and the album as a whole is incredible. Heaven Tonight is still weak, but the rest is incredible. It's JLT at his absolute peak.

Heaven Tonight is by far my favourite from the album. :lol Killer '80s track.
And I have been listening to Eclipse and Fire and Ice too, and I think I prefer Eclipse to Odyssey. What little I heard of Fire and Ice wasn't as good though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 09, 2014, 06:20:40 PM
From Frontiers' FB feed:

Quote
Coming January 2015.....
Russell Allen (Symphony X, Adrenaline Mob), Mat Sinner (Primal Fear)

 :omg:

Wood is being sported if it's a collaboration of some sort - just so long as Tolkki isn't the writer.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 09, 2014, 06:44:07 PM
Very interesting!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 09, 2014, 06:46:07 PM
Cautiously optimistic...............although just because Matt Sinner is involved doesn't ensure great songs .  Some of the Sinner (band) stuff is bloody awful.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2014, 09:56:47 PM
From Frontiers' FB feed:

Quote
Coming January 2015.....
Russell Allen (Symphony X, Adrenaline Mob), Mat Sinner (Primal Fear)

 :omg:

Wood is being sported if it's a collaboration of some sort - just so long as Tolkki isn't the writer.

If anything, Karlsson will hopefully be involved.  They seem to be a pretty tight team lately.

Cautiously optimistic...............although just because Matt Sinner is involved doesn't ensure great songs .  Some of the Sinner (band) stuff is bloody awful.

yeah, Sinner are hit and miss.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 10, 2014, 01:29:55 AM
I was very late to the Oddyssey party. I thought Trilogy sucked (still do), then I saw those horrific promo shots of JLT and Yngwie, coupl ed with the horrid Heaven Tonight. I had no interest in it at all. It was only about 5-6 years ago that I gave it another chance, and the album as a whole is incredible. Heaven Tonight is still weak, but the rest is incredible. It's JLT at his absolute peak.

Heaven Tonight is by far my favourite from the album. :lol Killer '80s track.
And I have been listening to Eclipse and Fire and Ice too, and I think I prefer Eclipse to Odyssey. What little I heard of Fire and Ice wasn't as good though.

I'm a big fan of Eclipse, first couple of tracks excepted. F&I was very poor by comparison to what went before.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 10, 2014, 02:48:28 AM
I was very late to the Oddyssey party. I thought Trilogy sucked (still do), then I saw those horrific promo shots of JLT and Yngwie, coupl ed with the horrid Heaven Tonight. I had no interest in it at all. It was only about 5-6 years ago that I gave it another chance, and the album as a whole is incredible. Heaven Tonight is still weak, but the rest is incredible. It's JLT at his absolute peak.

Heaven Tonight is by far my favourite from the album. :lol Killer '80s track.
And I have been listening to Eclipse and Fire and Ice too, and I think I prefer Eclipse to Odyssey. What little I heard of Fire and Ice wasn't as good though.

I'm a big fan of Eclipse, first couple of tracks excepted. F&I was very poor by comparison to what went before.

The first couple of tracks are the best! What is wrong with you people??
I can't stop listening to Bedroom Eyes. Great riff and chorus.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 10, 2014, 03:03:52 AM
For me it was always Demon Driver and Judas but I like most of Eclipse.  I agree that Fire and Ice is ordinary but I know Kade likes it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 10, 2014, 04:41:19 AM
Judas is a cool one too, but I also like most of the album anyway. Devil in Disguise is another good one, tuned down and heavier.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 10, 2014, 04:42:49 AM
yeah.....Devil In Disguise is cool.   And Save Our Love has probably his best constructed solo IMO .
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 10, 2014, 04:45:34 AM
That song hasn't really clicked for me yet, but I dig all of the guitar work. I've only had the album a day or two yet. I'm just glad to have some more music from my favourite era to check out. I haven't had a chance to discover a lot of music recently.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 10, 2014, 05:17:56 AM
For me it was always Demon Driver and Judas but I like most of Eclipse.  I agree that Fire and Ice is ordinary but I know Kade likes it.

Damn right.

Fire and Ice >>> Eclipse.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 10, 2014, 02:18:14 PM
For me it was always Demon Driver and Judas but I like most of Eclipse.  I agree that Fire and Ice is ordinary but I know Kade likes it.

Damn right.

Fire and Ice >>> Eclipse.

Nooooooooooooo
But yeah, not a fan of Bedroom Eyes. Making Love is ok.
The rest is great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 13, 2014, 11:23:09 AM
Harem Scarem trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFlWfBfAfkM

I dig it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2014, 11:31:31 AM
Harem Scarem trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFlWfBfAfkM

I dig it.

Sounds solid - as always.  I am/was a huge fan but nothing since Believe has really grabbed me in a big way......all quality but gets to sound a bit the same. Weight of The World was good in a "modern rock" sorta way.

No doubt the new album will be a cut above most of the stuff around the place and for that reason I'll buy it , if only to support the band. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 13, 2014, 03:40:37 PM
Those samples didn't do much for me to be honest.  I'll still purchase it though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 13, 2014, 03:45:34 PM
Sounds good to me. Kickstarter money well-spent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 13, 2014, 04:50:26 PM
sounds pretty good
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 13, 2014, 04:58:22 PM
sounds pretty good
It does?? I seriously have no time for this band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 13, 2014, 05:19:10 PM
sounds pretty good
It does?? I seriously have no time for this band.

Not even Mood Swings? That's a Canadian classic!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 13, 2014, 05:21:12 PM
sounds pretty good
It does?? I seriously have no time for this band.

Not even Mood Swings? That's a Canadian classic!
After Chad pimped it so hard, I downloaded it, and found it extremely generic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 13, 2014, 05:44:38 PM
sounds pretty good
It does?? I seriously have no time for this band.

Sounds like we need a Harem Scarem round in your roulette too!!!

Nah, I can see you point Tim.  If I was listening to that as virtually the first introduction to the band, I'd be pretty 'meh'.  But, I've got a soft spot for HS.  Can't say I've ever heard someone say Mood Swings is far from generic, then again, Winger is awesome too...

Tastes:  Not everyone has good ones.  :lol

jk... to each their own.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 13, 2014, 05:46:46 PM
Just don't send Tim a song from Harems alter ego, Rubber. That was brutal.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 13, 2014, 05:48:49 PM
Just don't send Tim a song from Harems alter ego, Rubber. That was brutal.

I said once a long time ago, 'let's forget the Rubber years'.

:shivers:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 13, 2014, 05:57:17 PM
.  But, I've got a soft spot for HS. 
Oh..and that's totally cool. :tup

then again, Winger is awesome too...
But that's totally NOT cool! :tdwn

 :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 17, 2014, 06:01:05 PM
Looks like we will get another solo album from Magnus in the future.

https://www.facebook.com/MAGNUSKARLSSONSFREEFALL/photos/a.506063722749448.108569.231384956883994/816839768338507/?type=1&theater

Check DC's comment!  :eek
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 17, 2014, 06:46:21 PM
DC would be a great addition!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 17, 2014, 07:09:09 PM
Hell yeah.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 18, 2014, 06:00:09 AM
DC would be a great addition!!

Hell yeah.  Nils Rue and Andy Kuntz would be right up my alley too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2014, 04:03:11 AM
DC would be a great addition!!

Hell yeah.  Nils Rue and Andy Kuntz would be right up my alley too.

It would be interesting to hear ANdy sing a Magnus song.  Good pick.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 19, 2014, 07:14:45 AM
Do you think he will select all new singers or will singers from Free Fall 1 be brought back?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2014, 06:11:19 PM
Do you think he will select all new singers or will singers from Free Fall 1 be brought back?

I think perhaps a couple from the first might return, like Ralf and Russel, but I think Magnus might focus on getting mostly new singers this time around.  Other singers that he has worked with that could potentially be included;

Jorn
Tony O'Hora
Michael Kiske
Amanda Sommerville
Bob Catley
Mat Sinner
Harry Hess
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 19, 2014, 06:17:50 PM
I would imagine Ralf, Russell and Jorn are solid bets. I like the idea of bringing in new singers each time around
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 19, 2014, 06:21:09 PM
Oddly, except for Kiske, I do not follow that circle of musicians whatsoever.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 19, 2014, 06:57:37 PM
Oddly, except for Kiske, I do not follow that circle of musicians whatsoever.

No Primal Fear?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on October 19, 2014, 11:20:01 PM
Oops wrong thread  :blush
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 20, 2014, 01:39:01 AM
Oddly, except for Kiske, I do not follow that circle of musicians whatsoever.

Not a Magnum fan TAC?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 20, 2014, 05:15:41 AM
Oddly, except for Kiske, I do not follow that circle of musicians whatsoever.

*takes notes for TAC roulette*
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 20, 2014, 05:27:23 AM
Oddly, except for Kiske, I do not follow that circle of musicians whatsoever.

Looks like you got some homework bro.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 20, 2014, 12:40:21 PM
I do have a two or three Primal Fear albums. I don't really spend a lot of time with them though.

I am not into Magnum. Never really checked them out, tbh. Seem a little light.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 20, 2014, 12:46:38 PM
I do have a two or three Primal Fear albums. I don't really spend a lot of time with them though.

I am not into Magnum. Never really checked them out, tbh. Seem a little light.

That's fair I guess, certainly more rock than metal but Storyteller's Night and Wings of Heaven are great albums. Thinking about it, neither made my top 50 - I knew I'd miss something. Worth a listen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 20, 2014, 12:54:42 PM
Catley has a great voice. After hearing him in Avantasia, I think I sampled a couple of randon youtube  tracks but nothing really stood out.
But they have been around awhile, and I'm sure they have some quality music in their catalog. I've just never really crossed paths with them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2014, 06:33:37 AM
Another Rated X song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yg9U1bg-wU

This is really cool shit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 24, 2014, 06:35:48 AM
I didn't like this one quite as much as the first, but I'm still really digging the style. I can't wait for this one.

And also, lyric videos are a pox.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2014, 06:47:45 AM
I thought it was slightly better than the first track, but difference in opinion here is no surprise.   :lol

And also, lyric videos are a pox.

Now this I can agree with.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 24, 2014, 06:49:41 AM
I thought it was slightly better than the first track, but difference in opinion here is no surprise.   :lol

Eh, they were both good, and that's only after one listen of each, so that's a tentative opinion at best for now. :tup
For now let's just focus on the fact we're both anticipating the same album. Then later on we can bicker when you no doubt like the exact opposite tracks to the ones I do. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 24, 2014, 07:18:14 AM
Lyric vids drive me mad too - most of the time it just makes me realise how super lame the lyrics are and that ruins the listening experience.  I normally take very little notice of lyrics.

Those songs aren't bad .......not sure if I'll like it enough to buy but JLT is always a fairly safe bet.   Certainly better than the shithouse Mothers Army stuff I spent a fortune on back in the day.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2014, 04:29:17 PM
Lyric vids drive me mad too - most of the time it just makes me realise how super lame the lyrics are and that ruins the listening experience.  I normally take very little notice of lyrics.

Yeah same.  I rarely even bother looking at the lyrics anymore.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 27, 2014, 09:45:16 AM
New Neonfly track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmiMP8zwyKs

Decent song.  Criminally underrated band.  They've toured with Magnum, Pagan's Mind, and H.E.A.T. in the past.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 27, 2014, 10:13:02 PM
New Neonfly track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmiMP8zwyKs

Decent song.  Criminally underrated band.  They've toured with Magnum, Pagan's Mind, and H.E.A.T. in the past.

Sounds promising.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2014, 05:14:46 AM
New Neonfly track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmiMP8zwyKs

Decent song.  Criminally underrated band.  They've toured with Magnum, Pagan's Mind, and H.E.A.T. in the past.

Meh, it's okay.  Nothing I've heard from this band has really wowed me though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 28, 2014, 05:35:14 AM
Their debut wow'd the fuck out of me.  I hope this track isn't indicative of the album, as I think everything on the debut is better than this. It was decent, but not as good as I expect from them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 29, 2014, 02:57:20 PM
From Magnus K's FB feed today:

Quote
and the dreamteam for FREE FALL II starts with the one and only JORN LANDE!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10177490_823539327668551_1765655116166138326_n.jpg?oh=2bf7eac69b87f8c2d4a37ab5cbb34809&oe=54E481FA&__gda__=1425050187_947885fd0abcfc3cf4a9ee189bfc4c9d)

Oh.  Hell.  YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

This will make up for the abomination that Tolkki left us with - which, on principle alone I am refusing to listen to.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2014, 04:20:25 AM
Oh motherfucker yes.  He should just only get Jorn and Russ to sing on his new solo album.  That would fuck Tolkki off.  :lol  Seriously, this is gonna be amazing.  I hope we see this by mid next year.

Chad, the new Allen Lande is slightly better than the Avalon stuff but not by much.  There's no way I'm spending any money on it, and after I listened to it once, I have had no urge to listen to it again.  Screw you Tolkki.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 30, 2014, 05:17:53 AM
Oh motherfucker yes.  He should just only get Jorn and Russ to sing on his new solo album.  That would fuck Tolkki off.  :lol  Seriously, this is gonna be amazing.  I hope we see this by mid next year.

That would be so magnificent.

Chad, the new Allen Lande is slightly better than the Avalon stuff but not by much.  There's no way I'm spending any money on it, and after I listened to it once, I have had no urge to listen to it again.  Screw you Tolkki.

I think I came to the realization that, on principle alone, anything less than spectacular is going to put me into rage mode.  I always knew it would be sub-par, and for a time was ok with that.  But now, it's just going to piss me off, and I don't want to risk tarnishing what I love and adore about the original trilogy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2014, 06:23:00 AM
I have no problem with your feelings at all.

I listened to the Revenge after I listened to the Great Divide and the difference was just shocking.  Lucky I didn't listen to the Battle after it or else I probably would have cried, that's how disappointing this new album is, and yes you are right, it totally tarnishes the magic and brilliance of the project.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 31, 2014, 11:39:08 AM
https://www.metalkaoz.com/metal-news/14493-jorn-landes-dracula-swing-of-death-artwork.html

Cover to the new album from Jorn and Trond Halter (Teeny from WigWam and guitarist on Jorn's last album). No samples yet. Dracula concept album? Could be ...complete shite. We'll have to wait and see.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 31, 2014, 11:45:24 AM
https://www.metalkaoz.com/metal-news/14493-jorn-landes-dracula-swing-of-death-artwork.html

Cover to the new album from Jorn and Trond Halter (Tiny from WigWam and guitarist on Jorn's last album). No samples yet. Dracula concept album? Could be ...complete shite. We'll have to wait and see.  :lol

I thought I saw something in my FB feed this morning about Dracula & Jorn, but dismissed it because it seemed a little odd.  Could be interesting.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 31, 2014, 12:26:53 PM
https://www.metalkaoz.com/metal-news/14493-jorn-landes-dracula-swing-of-death-artwork.html

Cover to the new album from Jorn and Trond Halter (Teeny from WigWam and guitarist on Jorn's last album). No samples yet. Dracula concept album? Could be ...complete shite. We'll have to wait and see.  :lol
Dracula?

Well Heavenly's great Dust To Dust album was about a vampire and Iced Earth's Dracula was easily the best song on Horrorshow.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2014, 04:01:17 PM
https://www.metalkaoz.com/metal-news/14493-jorn-landes-dracula-swing-of-death-artwork.html

Cover to the new album from Jorn and Trond Halter (Teeny from WigWam and guitarist on Jorn's last album). No samples yet. Dracula concept album? Could be ...complete shite. We'll have to wait and see.  :lol

Traveller was a step back in the right direction.  Trond seems like a decent fit for Jorn.  This could have potential.  I just hope it being under a different banner means that the musical direction will be a bit different.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2014, 04:23:45 PM
New Mr Big is pretty fuckin shit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 31, 2014, 04:32:36 PM
New Mr Big is pretty fuckin shit.


I didn't mind it but it's not great. Some clunkers on there, but I was in a bit of a bluesy frame of mind a few weeks back.



Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2014, 05:15:16 PM
I really like the new Work of Art, but that's just me.  It's actually a little different in flavour compared to the first two and it's surely nothing new.  Robert Sall just knows how to write good solid 80's style AOR.

On another note, the new Vega album is friggin awesome.  Cracking melodic rock all the way through.  I highly recommend it.  Here's a couple of tracks.  THere's not many songs on the album from youtube to choose from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RixrYocEwOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXm9w2C0x8c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8vALKQODUs
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 31, 2014, 08:01:34 PM
Interesting..........it's (Vega) getting bagged over at mr.com which is where I'd expect all the love to come from.  But then they like the new Allen/Lande  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 01, 2014, 01:46:46 PM
I really like the new Work of Art, but that's just me.  It's actually a little different in flavour compared to the first two and it's surely nothing new.  Robert Sall just knows how to write good solid 80's style AOR.

On another note, the new Vega album is friggin awesome.  Cracking melodic rock all the way through.  I highly recommend it.  Here's a couple of tracks.  THere's not many songs on the album from youtube to choose from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RixrYocEwOU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RixrYocEwOU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXm9w2C0x8c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXm9w2C0x8c)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8vALKQODUs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8vALKQODUs)


Andrew gave the WoA the 99% score on Melrock.com. He is easily pleased with the pink and fluffy stuff though. I just struggle when everything sounds so nice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 02, 2014, 03:55:58 AM
Interesting..........it's (Vega) getting bagged over at mr.com which is where I'd expect all the love to come from.  But then they like the new Allen/Lande  ;D

Really?  I can't find reviews for either of those albums on mr.com, but I can't say anything bad about Vega really.  They are becoming one of my top melodic rock acts period.  This album is fantastic.  It's better than the WOA too.

I tried to listen to the Allen Lande again and I skipped through most of it.  Absolute garbage.  I also noticed that the title track is a Jorn only track, which is so fucking stupid considering the title tracks of the other three.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 03, 2014, 04:13:51 PM
So, regarding the Jorn/Trond Ho;ter Dracula thing, it seems Trond has been working on this for a few years now and there is some samples on Myspace. Hmm, can't really hear Jorn ssinging this so it must be drastically reworked. Very camp.

https://myspace.com/swingofdeath/music/song/swing-of-death-56809980-61691860
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2014, 04:13:07 AM
It's weird, I click play but I can't hear anything.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 04, 2014, 06:07:33 AM
Just got my hands on an advance copy of Ten's newie (due for release 21/11 )   :hat..............will report back
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 04, 2014, 07:12:47 AM
New Mr Big is pretty fuckin shit.


I didn't mind it but it's not great. Some clunkers on there, but I was in a bit of a bluesy frame of mind a few weeks back.

While not exactly shit I find it very underwhelming. Can't see myself going back to this one often.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2014, 02:47:54 PM
Just got my hands on an advance copy of Ten's newie (due for release 21/11 )   :hat..............will report back

I've been waiting for any sort of samples or songs to pop online.  For an album that is released in 2 weeks, it's strange that not a second of audio from it can be found online.

Waiting anxiously for your opinions.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 04, 2014, 04:02:00 PM
It's weird, I click play but I can't hear anything.

https://myspace.com/swingofdeath/music/albums

Try this one? Works for me. To be honest you're not missing a great deal... It's a bit Rocky Horror Show  :omg:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 04, 2014, 04:28:22 PM
OK...........the new Ten album "Albion."

I've now had 3 listens , which in itself is a good sign as I rarely go back for 2nds or 3rds immediately for a new release these days.  First impression was to be very impressed - on 2nd and 3rd listens I've knocked down the ratings on a few songs but overall I'm still quite impressed.

It's early days but I think I can say that it sits comfortably in the 2nd tier of Ten albums along with stuff like The Robe , Spellbound and Far Beyond The World.   The writing is strong (although I did pick up a recycled chorus melody in a song that otherwise would've been killer) , the playing is strong and the production is one of their better efforts.   The sound quality certainly doesn't detract in the way it did on albums like The Robe.   Speaking of The Robe it does have that same sort of epic feel as that album , if not quite to the same extent.

There's nice diversity in the songwriting and Gary Hughes has really put in one of his better efforts here - there's even some sort of operatic toon half sung in Italian which I thought would be a disaster but is actually pretty decent.

The one drawback that I'm feeling is that in the end it's a bit mid paced and missing just one ballsy rocker in the vein of The Name Of The Rose , High Tide, Fear The Force etc........which would've just topped the album off.

Favourite Track: Battlefield

Initial Rating : 89%  (= 110% on mr.com :D )
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2014, 05:04:19 PM
That's a good rating coming from you Brent.  Looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 04, 2014, 05:37:58 PM
That's a good rating coming from you Brent.  Looking forward to this one.

:iagree:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 05, 2014, 05:30:30 AM
The one drawback that I'm feeling is that in the end it's a bit mid paced and missing just one ballsy rocker
I've never listened to Ten, but here's the one statement that scares me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 05, 2014, 05:32:56 AM
You're in the wrong thread dude  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 05, 2014, 05:33:36 AM
You're in the wrong thread dude  ;D
Right, of course! :facepalm: :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 06, 2014, 11:43:37 PM
I just heard that in addition to Whitesnake , Joel Hoekstra has two thirds finished an album with Tony Franklin, Vinnie Appice and Russell Allen.  Could be interesting.

Further to this little rumour from a while back - full lineup has been announced:


The lineup is:
Russell Allen - vocals
Joel Hoekstra - guitar
Vinny Appice - drums
Tony Franklin - bass
Derek Sherinian - keyboards
Jeff Scott Soto - background vocals

 


Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2014, 04:56:41 AM
That'll definitely be worth checking out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2014, 05:25:38 AM
Finally some Ten samples.  First few sound nice, melodic and smooth.  Sounds like Stormwarning to me though, which is a good thing.

https://www.melodicrock.com/

EDIT:  Holy shit, Gary Hughes and the rip off machine strikes again.  Check track 5. lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 07, 2014, 05:30:20 AM
Finally some Ten samples.  First few sound nice, melodic and smooth.  Sounds like Stormwarning to me though, which is a good thing.

https://www.melodicrock.com/

EDIT:  Holy shit, Gary Hughes and the rip off machine strikes again.  Check track 5. lol

I actually didn't pick it the first time around , but the verse vocal melody got me thinking.  You thinking Whitesnake (Looking For Love ) ?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2014, 05:33:04 AM
Finally some Ten samples.  First few sound nice, melodic and smooth.  Sounds like Stormwarning to me though, which is a good thing.

https://www.melodicrock.com/

EDIT:  Holy shit, Gary Hughes and the rip off machine strikes again.  Check track 5. lol

I actually didn't pick it the first time around , but the verse vocal melody got me thinking.  You thinking Whitesnake (Looking For Love ) ?

Absolutely.  It's a dead ringer.  Pricked my ears right away.  Gary loves his rip off.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 07, 2014, 05:34:41 AM
He could have at least ripped off a good Whitesnake song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2014, 05:36:10 AM
He could have at least ripped off a good Whitesnake song.

That's my fav song on 1987.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2014, 05:37:06 AM
So apparentely, the unknown lead singer of Vinny Burns Three Lions album this year has scored himself a solo record deal. 

Solid enough tune though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ6ThVSNaiM
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 07, 2014, 05:37:11 AM
Should have known this forum would be backwards. :lol It's the clunkiest clunker on the album, perhaps the only clunker.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 07, 2014, 05:39:15 AM
My taste and Blob's are often so close in terms of styles and bands but favourite songs/albums are almost never close  ;D

I really like Looking For Love too - didn't realise it existed for years and years as I owned the US version since '87 and didn't find out for a very long time about the extra tracks on the Euro one.

The only track I used to skip on that was Children of the Night.   Decent tune but struck me as the odd one out in terms of songwriting quality..  I prefer both of the add-on tracks to that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2014, 05:49:21 AM
The only track I used to skip on that was Children of the Night.   Decent tune but struck me as the odd one out in terms of songwriting quality..  I prefer both of the add-on tracks to that.

This for me too.  Good song, but doesn't grab you as much as everything else, and feels too long.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on November 07, 2014, 05:52:19 AM
Should have known this forum would be backwards. :lol It's the clunkiest clunker on the album, perhaps the only clunker.
You're the backwards weirdo, not us. :loser:

I'd probably go for Children of the Night as least favourite aswell.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 07, 2014, 05:53:02 AM
Children of the Night is a cool song. Not one of the absolute best, but a lot better than whats-his-face Looking For Love. I can't say I've ever gotten through the whole song.

Should have known this forum would be backwards. :lol It's the clunkiest clunker on the album, perhaps the only clunker.
You're the backwards weirdo, not us. :loser:

In the real world, this forum is the backwards one. DTF lives in bizarro world or something. :lol I've never heard anyone even mention Looking For Love when discussing that album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2014, 05:58:11 AM
Children of the Night is a cool song. Not one of the absolute best, but a lot better than whats-his-face Looking For Love. I can't say I've ever gotten through the whole song.

You missing out on the amazing climax at the end.  Sykes rips on this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 07, 2014, 09:57:59 AM

Those songs aren't bad .......not sure if I'll like it enough to buy but JLT is always a fairly safe bet.   Certainly better than the shithouse Mothers Army stuff I spent a fortune on back in the day.


Well I went ahead and got the Rated X album and tbh it's about as good as I expected - nice, solid rock and roll and not much more.  It has a bit of a Deep Purple/Rainbow vibe in parts with the Hammond etc..and it's always cool to hear new JLT stuff , but it's nothing I haven't heard him do a million times (and better) already.  Decent but nothing special about it IMHO.

I rate it X out of XIV   :P

So 71 % .


Today was a big day for new releases to listen to.........also Crazy Lixx , Nightingale,Pink Floyd, Heart (live) etc..
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 07, 2014, 10:29:17 AM
Finally some Ten samples.  First few sound nice, melodic and smooth.  Sounds like Stormwarning to me though, which is a good thing.

https://www.melodicrock.com/

EDIT:  Holy shit, Gary Hughes and the rip off machine strikes again.  Check track 5. lol

I actually didn't pick it the first time around , but the verse vocal melody got me thinking.  You thinking Whitesnake (Looking For Love ) ?

Absolutely.  It's a dead ringer.  Pricked my ears right away.  Gary loves his rip off.  :lol

 :lol
There's at least one every album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2014, 02:39:45 PM
What do you think of the Ten Paul?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 07, 2014, 04:46:17 PM
What do you think of the Ten Paul?

Liked it at first listen. The Whitesnake copy was a bit blatant though  :biggrin:

Very impressed with the In Faith though.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 07, 2014, 11:41:28 PM
The In Faith is certainly a good album - I didn't rate it quite as high as the Ten though.

I've heard the In Faith compared to D2 , Def leppard and Harem Scarem (well Harry Hess does backgrounds so.....) but to me , aside from the HS sound in a few choruses,  the moments where I was thinking "geez this sounds like......"  it was Winger I had in mind.    Not the whole album , just a few tracks with the opener being a prime example.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 08, 2014, 03:41:48 AM
The In Faith is certainly a good album - I didn't rate it quite as high as the Ten though.

I've heard the In Faith compared to D2 , Def leppard and Harem Scarem (well Harry Hess does backgrounds so.....) but to me , aside from the HS sound in a few choruses,  the moments where I was thinking "geez this sounds like......"  it was Winger I had in mind.    Not the whole album , just a few tracks with the opener being a prime example.

I certainly hear Def Lep in the vocals (lead and background). Not saying its better than the Ten - I've played it 3 times now as opposed to Ten once.
Not hearing Winger myself - Winger always had a bit of a proggier edge to their sound even on the 1st album. I don't hear that at all here, it's pretty formulaic but good.
Also just arrived is the Robby Valentine album. I've got a couple of his albums - he's a talent and interesting for fans of Queen as he bases his whole thing on their early sound. A couple of wierd tracks but up to his usual standard. Those backing vocals! He's no Freddie though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 08, 2014, 04:33:58 AM
I was referring more to the vocal than the music - to my ears he does a pretty good Kip Winger on a few of the songs.

I too have the Valentine , but haven't listened as yet.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2014, 02:49:35 PM
So Mark Boals is the new bassist for Dokken?
Really?
https://bravewords.com/news/dokken-enlist-mark-boals-as-new-bassist
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 09, 2014, 03:00:01 PM
So Mark Boals is the new bassist for Dokken?
Really?
https://bravewords.com/news/dokken-enlist-mark-boals-as-new-bassist

From the interview
 As you see on the internet, people go, I saw Dokken and the harmonies were awesome.

Shame about the leads then...  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 09, 2014, 03:00:51 PM
So Mark Boals is the new bassist for Dokken?
Really?
https://bravewords.com/news/dokken-enlist-mark-boals-as-new-bassist

New lead vocalist more like it , with Don providing "harmonies".
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 09, 2014, 03:08:25 PM
Ahh....I suppose that could count as ninja'd  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2014, 03:14:43 PM
Ahh....I suppose that could count as ninja'd  ;D
It sure as hell does! :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2014, 04:04:24 AM
This is pretty funny news.  Broken Bones was practically a duet between the two so I guess it makes sense. lol  but surely, considering how good of a vocalist Mark is, he must cringe when Don sings, seriously.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 10, 2014, 01:07:11 PM
Finally some Ten samples.  First few sound nice, melodic and smooth.  Sounds like Stormwarning to me though, which is a good thing.

https://www.melodicrock.com/

EDIT:  Holy shit, Gary Hughes and the rip off machine strikes again.  Check track 5. lol

I actually didn't pick it the first time around , but the verse vocal melody got me thinking.  You thinking Whitesnake (Looking For Love ) ?

It's almost exact. Every time I hear it I'm waiting for the wide vibrato'd pinched harmonics - a good job Vinny Burns isn't on the album or that'd be there too  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2014, 02:34:19 PM
Finally some Ten samples.  First few sound nice, melodic and smooth.  Sounds like Stormwarning to me though, which is a good thing.

https://www.melodicrock.com/

EDIT:  Holy shit, Gary Hughes and the rip off machine strikes again.  Check track 5. lol

I actually didn't pick it the first time around , but the verse vocal melody got me thinking.  You thinking Whitesnake (Looking For Love ) ?

It's almost exact. Every time I hear it I'm waiting for the wide vibrato'd pinched harmonics - a good job Vinny Burns isn't on the album or that'd be there too  :biggrin:

Yeah, those two lines or so are basically identical.  You can always count on Gary to wear his influences on his sleeve.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 10, 2014, 02:41:52 PM
Finally some Ten samples.  First few sound nice, melodic and smooth.  Sounds like Stormwarning to me though, which is a good thing.

https://www.melodicrock.com/

EDIT:  Holy shit, Gary Hughes and the rip off machine strikes again.  Check track 5. lol

I actually didn't pick it the first time around , but the verse vocal melody got me thinking.  You thinking Whitesnake (Looking For Love ) ?

It's almost exact. Every time I hear it I'm waiting for the wide vibrato'd pinched harmonics - a good job Vinny Burns isn't on the album or that'd be there too  :biggrin:

Yeah, those two lines or so are basically identical.  You can always count on Gary to wear his influences on his sleeve.

It dpesn't help that he delivers the lines in his best Coverdale impression too.
Good album though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 12, 2014, 04:01:43 AM
Holy shit!!  I don't think anyone would have expected this;

https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/news-feed/2014/11/12/jimi-jamison-autopsy-results-published
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 12, 2014, 04:05:43 AM
So sad to lose him to something so tragic and avoidable.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 04:06:25 AM
Holy shit!!  I don't think anyone would have expected this;

https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/news-feed/2014/11/12/jimi-jamison-autopsy-results-published

Yeah..........would've thought he was the epitome of the clean living rock star.  Sounds like he was due for some serious heart trouble either way , but certainly a shock to see what likely triggered it all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 12, 2014, 05:29:57 AM
Just checked out the new Rated X album. Kind of average rock, and I had trouble getting through any of it because the drumming was so dreadful it made Lars Ulrich sound good. Was he drunk when he recorded these drum tracks?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 05:47:41 AM
Just checked out the new Rated X album. Kind of average rock, and I had trouble getting through any of it because the drumming was so dreadful it made Lars Ulrich sound good. Was he drunk when he recorded these drum tracks?

Agreed - pretty average stuff.    JLT makes it listenable but that's about it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 12, 2014, 05:49:45 AM
Yeah, JLT is always good from what I've heard of him. Drums aside, it's listenable stuff, but I've got so much great stuff already in that genre, that merely listenable isn't worth the time.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on November 12, 2014, 06:13:50 AM
So sad to lose him to something so tragic and avoidable.

Makes me so sad to read that. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2014, 09:43:08 AM
What do you guys think of this?
https://bravewords.com/news/all-star-metal-formation-level-10-featuring-russell-allen-mat-sinner-roland-grapow-and-others-to-release-debut-album-in-january-video-preview-streaming
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 12, 2014, 09:50:21 AM
I like the idea of Allen singing this more straight ahead metal but , after listening to the samples, I'm not convinced that the songs are going to be anything special .
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2014, 12:21:35 PM
After hearing the samples, I am convinced they are NOT anything special.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 12, 2014, 01:14:32 PM
TAC, what bet did you lose with this Winger shit?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 12, 2014, 01:15:24 PM
TAC, what bet did you lose with this Winger shit?

This board is run by Nazis!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 12, 2014, 01:16:16 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 12, 2014, 01:34:25 PM
:lol

Love it ... need a new avatar though.  I nominate

(https://www.dallasdancemusic.com/photos/data/500/7169Kip_in_the_shower.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2014, 04:46:50 AM
https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/showcase/2014/11/14/harem-scarem-thirteen-showcase

Harem Scarem samples.  Only a 38 minute album.

To be honest, I can't hear the brilliance of the new 3 songs we heard on Mood Swings 2.  This sounds just like later Harem Scarem.....hmmmmm....
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 14, 2014, 04:51:48 AM
100%  ;)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2014, 04:53:55 AM
100%  ;)

I'm thinking at least a 98%.  :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 14, 2014, 05:38:43 AM
https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/showcase/2014/11/14/harem-scarem-thirteen-showcase

Harem Scarem samples.  Only a 38 minute album.

To be honest, I can't hear the brilliance of the new 3 songs we heard on Mood Swings 2.  This sounds just like later Harem Scarem.....hmmmmm....

I started to listen to the first song sample, pretty good.  Sounds pretty similar to most of their 2000s stuff, which was really good.  Definitely not going to expect the brilliance of Mood Swings - that'll only set me up for disappointment - and I think they caught lightning in a bottle with the three original tracks from MS II. 

If I compare against the Rubber years, or Voice of Reason, I'm sure to be impressed. 
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Post by: Lowdz on November 14, 2014, 01:28:45 PM
https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/showcase/2014/11/14/harem-scarem-thirteen-showcase

Harem Scarem samples.  Only a 38 minute album.

To be honest, I can't hear the brilliance of the new 3 songs we heard on Mood Swings 2.  This sounds just like later Harem Scarem.....hmmmmm....

I started to listen to the first song sample, pretty good.  Sounds pretty similar to most of their 2000s stuff, which was really good.  Definitely not going to expect the brilliance of Mood Swings - that'll only set me up for disappointment - and I think they caught lightning in a bottle with the three original tracks from MS II. 

If I compare against the Rubber years, or Voice of Reason, I'm sure to be impressed.

I like the last few HS albums, though some were better than others. Mood Swings is a very good album but I don't love it - it's not the be all/end all for me. I heard a couple of the later albums first (Weight of THe World and Higher), then the debut, before MS.
I'm sure it will be fine. And yes, Melodicrock.com will give it 100%.
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Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2014, 03:52:23 PM
https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/showcase/2014/11/14/harem-scarem-thirteen-showcase

Harem Scarem samples.  Only a 38 minute album.

To be honest, I can't hear the brilliance of the new 3 songs we heard on Mood Swings 2.  This sounds just like later Harem Scarem.....hmmmmm....

I started to listen to the first song sample, pretty good.  Sounds pretty similar to most of their 2000s stuff, which was really good.  Definitely not going to expect the brilliance of Mood Swings - that'll only set me up for disappointment - and I think they caught lightning in a bottle with the three original tracks from MS II. 

If I compare against the Rubber years, or Voice of Reason, I'm sure to be impressed.

I'll need something better if we have to compare it to their weaker stuff.  For some reason over the last 12 months, I have been harder to impress with a lot of stuff in general.  I'm not into giving albums the benefit of the doubt as much anymore, they need to be really good, or I'll move on for the most part.

I was expecting songs in the vein of the new Mood Swings, but I guess that's not going to be the case.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 14, 2014, 04:29:37 PM
For some reason over the last 12 months, I have been harder to impress with a lot of stuff in general.  I'm not into giving albums the benefit of the doubt as much anymore, they need to be really good, or I'll move on for the most part.

You're kidding right?  You just posted Work Of Art's new album in the listening thread.  That's powder puff rock if I ever heard it.   :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 14, 2014, 04:32:09 PM
For some reason over the last 12 months, I have been harder to impress with a lot of stuff in general.  I'm not into giving albums the benefit of the doubt as much anymore, they need to be really good, or I'll move on for the most part.

You're kidding right?  You just posted Work Of Art's new album in the listening thread.  That's powder puff rock if I ever heard it.   :lol
It's called maturing.  :) I've had trouble parting with money this year on a ton of stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 14, 2014, 05:18:36 PM
For some reason over the last 12 months, I have been harder to impress with a lot of stuff in general.  I'm not into giving albums the benefit of the doubt as much anymore, they need to be really good, or I'll move on for the most part.

You're kidding right?  You just posted Work Of Art's new album in the listening thread.  That's powder puff rock if I ever heard it.   :lol

Hey, what can I say, it impresses me.  :lol


For some reason over the last 12 months, I have been harder to impress with a lot of stuff in general.  I'm not into giving albums the benefit of the doubt as much anymore, they need to be really good, or I'll move on for the most part.

You're kidding right?  You just posted Work Of Art's new album in the listening thread.  That's powder puff rock if I ever heard it.   :lol
It's called maturing.  :) I've had trouble parting with money this year on a ton of stuff.

This.  With the amount of cd's I have, I just don't see the point of laying down money on albums I know that I will play once or twice and store away.  Stuff like the new Slipknot and Machine Head would have been stuff I would have jumped on as soon as it was released without even thinking.  But instead, I listened, thought meh, knew they wouldn't stick and moved on, therefore, saving $40.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 14, 2014, 06:02:41 PM
Wolf sounds like your 12 month treatment at the music addictions centre is working
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 14, 2014, 07:06:47 PM
Well, I'm still a music-whore, so many things get purchased without hesitation.  There are probably a dozen or so bands that fall into that category - Harem being one of them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2014, 02:42:33 AM
Wolf sounds like your 12 month treatment at the music addictions centre is working

It's working like a charm but I don't even remember checking in.  :lol

Well, I'm still a music-whore, so many things get purchased without hesitation.  There are probably a dozen or so bands that fall into that category - Harem being one of them.

Me too, but my cut off is set at a much higher standard of band.  Saying that, I will probably still purchase this new Harem cd.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2014, 08:36:43 AM
Wolf sounds like your 12 month treatment at the music addictions centre is working

It's working like a charm but I don't even remember checking in.  :lol

Well, I'm still a music-whore, so many things get purchased without hesitation.  There are probably a dozen or so bands that fall into that category - Harem being one of them.

Me too, but my cut off is set at a much higher standard of band.  Saying that, I will probably still purchase this new Harem cd.

You've relapsed!  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2014, 09:08:11 AM
He can stop anytime he wants. No, really..
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 16, 2014, 09:12:57 AM
Intervention!!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2014, 04:42:33 AM
I have tightened up my spending a lot guys, I promise, I haven't relapsed.  :lol

Even though I expect more from HS, I don't mind some of their later stuff, which means I'll still buy this cd.  Bands like this I'll buy more easily than bigger mainstream bands, just to try and support them.  Except Timo Tolkki.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2014, 02:35:45 PM
It doesn't sound that bad. Loved that they mention Alice Cooper as an influence.
https://bravewords.com/news/jorn-lande-trond-holter-dracula-swing-of-death-album-details-revealed-video-trailer-streaming
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2014, 04:40:26 AM
Definitely sounds a lot better than his last few.  Sounding very melodic and energetic, good samples.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2014, 04:30:33 AM
https://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/sweetlynch

new George Lynch, Michael Sweet song.

This is sounding really really good.  This song reminds me of Fifth Angel, and no not because of the song name.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 19, 2014, 11:57:41 AM
I like what I've heard from this project
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Post by: bl5150 on November 19, 2014, 12:00:30 PM
I like what I've heard from this project

Me too -  Sweet seems to be on a roll with his songwriting at the moment (both Stryper and his latest solo album were very good) and I expect him to bring out the best in Lynch.   Seems to have a bit of a retro feel to it too which is good in my book.

I only realised the other day Lynch has passed 60yo - looking and playing damn good for his age .
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Post by: Lowdz on November 19, 2014, 12:12:18 PM
I like what I've heard from this project

Me too -  Sweet seems to be on a roll with his songwriting at the moment (both Stryper and his latest solo album were very good) and I expect him to bring out the best in Lynch.   Seems to have a bit of a retro feel to it too which is good in my book.

I only realised the other day Lynch has passed 60yo - looking and playing damn good for his age .

Agree it's sounding promising. The new Lynch Mob song is ok, but not that exciting tbh and I'm certainly holding out more hope for the Sweet/Lynch. I enjoyed the last LM album though.
George is certainly not sitting around waiting for old age.
https://soundcloud.com/rat-pak-records/lynch-mob-play-the-game
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2014, 04:35:50 PM
Might have to check some Stryper now.  never really checked them but liking this guys voice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 19, 2014, 08:13:31 PM
Can't remember if this got posted yet or not.  From Frontiers' FB feed:

Quote
Have you checked out the trailer for Level 10's upcoming album, CHAPTER 1 yet? If not, then click the play button below to get the first taste of music from this mind-blowing collaboration between Russell Allen (Symphony X, Adrenaline Mob) and Mat Sinner (Primal Fear)!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp_cZvkrJT4&feature=youtu.be

Dat opening riff in Cry No More is pretty nice.

Yup, this is sounding suh-weet!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2014, 08:24:00 PM
Yeah I thought I posted it, or maybe someone else did.  It's sounds solid enough, but nothing mindblowing from the samples.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 19, 2014, 09:27:06 PM
Yeah I thought I posted it, or maybe someone else did.  It's sounds solid enough, but nothing mindblowing from the samples.

I thought so too, but a quick search didn't give me anything. I'm getting old. I forget shit easily.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2014, 04:16:58 AM
Yeah I thought I posted it, or maybe someone else did.  It's sounds solid enough, but nothing mindblowing from the samples.

I thought so too, but a quick search didn't give me anything. I'm getting old. I forget shit easily.

I had a look through a couple of threads and couldn't find anything, what the hell, I'm sure I posted, oh well.  Should still be solid.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2014, 04:50:02 AM
Give me a Stryper album to check out please friends.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 20, 2014, 05:12:01 AM
Yeah I thought I posted it, or maybe someone else did.  It's sounds solid enough, but nothing mindblowing from the samples.

It's a couple of pages back. European Adrelaline Mob.

Give me a Stryper album to check out please friends.

Their last album sounded pretty solid. No More Hell To Pay. For classic Stryper, I'd hit Soldiers Under Command.
You'd probably like them. Not sure if their overall discog has enough teeth to it though.

I actually prefer classic Sacred Warrior. Very Queensryche-ish.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2014, 05:12:30 AM
Give me a Stryper album to check out please friends.

For a bit of exposure to their classic stuff perhaps try Second Coming - a fairly recent release of re-records of some of their best old stuff , but with better production.

I mentioned Against The Law in my Top 50 runners up I think .....a bit of filler but the killer is  :tup  I played this stuff to death back in the day.

Try these:

Caught In The Middle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGEY-KUz_FE  (awesome vocal w/JSS on backups...that outro  :hefdaddy  :hefdaddy )
All For One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5hYZaCYhDs
Rock The Hell Out Of You: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w62H39wyxQ


Their most recent release No More Hell To Pay has a few good cuts on it too.


Te Amo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atbbwoUwrqY
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 20, 2014, 07:41:46 AM
No More Hell to Pay and Second Coming is an outstanding starting point. Plus their classics To Hell with the Devil and Soldiers Under Command. Their most recent live release "live at the whiskey" is an awesome release.

Nice to see a mention of the unknown Sacred Warrior- great QR sounding band. Another similar SW/QR sounding band is Recon. They only released one album, "behind enemy lines" , but it's awesome.
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Post by: bl5150 on November 21, 2014, 08:45:27 AM
Press kit for Revolution Saints -   Jack Blades, Doug Aldrich, Deen Castronovo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOKjuLhUkKs&feature=youtu.be

Not sure about this one.  Huge potential but just hope it's not too "nice" like recent Night Ranger.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 21, 2014, 02:27:05 PM
How does a guy with a voice like that end up as a drummer? And a pretty fine one too.

Sounds decent. Probably a bit polished but the musicianship makes a difference. The drumming sounds killer.

It's a shit name for a band though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 21, 2014, 03:01:47 PM
It's a shit name for a band though.

Too close to Revolution Renaissance for my liking.  And then I start thinking about Tolkki, and get all rage-y and shit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 21, 2014, 03:06:11 PM
It's a shit name for a band though.

Too close to Revolution Renaissance for my liking.  And then I start thinking about Tolkki, and get all rage-y and shit.

I was thinking Utah Saints... yuk
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2014, 04:39:19 PM
Press kit for Revolution Saints -   Jack Blades, Doug Aldrich, Deen Castronovo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOKjuLhUkKs&feature=youtu.be

Not sure about this one.  Huge potential but just hope it's not too "nice" like recent Night Ranger.

It sounds okay.  Another Frontiers standard project worth a listen.  I never thought when Doug left Whitesnake though he would be involved in a Frontiers project.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 21, 2014, 04:56:31 PM
Man, these Stryper tracks are pretty damn good. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on November 21, 2014, 08:05:59 PM
Press kit for Revolution Saints -   Jack Blades, Doug Aldrich, Deen Castronovo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOKjuLhUkKs&feature=youtu.be

Not sure about this one.  Huge potential but just hope it's not too "nice" like recent Night Ranger.

It sounds okay.  Another Frontiers standard project worth a listen.  I never thought when Doug left Whitesnake though he would be involved in a Frontiers project.

No one played it safe on this?
I really hope so, but the EPK it sounds like pretty standard melodic rock by the numbers.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 22, 2014, 05:17:49 AM
Press kit for Revolution Saints -   Jack Blades, Doug Aldrich, Deen Castronovo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOKjuLhUkKs&feature=youtu.be

Not sure about this one.  Huge potential but just hope it's not too "nice" like recent Night Ranger.

I was hoping for more of a Whitesnake-y straight up hard rock kind of thing from these guys. It's sounding a bit too typical Frontiers put-together Journey clone from the samples.
But from these guys, I'll be picking up the album either way. But it doesn't seem it will be what I was expecting.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2014, 03:55:03 AM
Picked up No More Hell to Pay as it was sitting on the shelves while I was out shopping this weekend.  I've listened to the first half, and I'm really liking what I'm hearing.  It's just simple, no frills, yet well written and performed rock, and great songs.  The production IMO isn't the greatest but for some reason it fits the style and the songs.  Reminds me a bit of Dokken, which isn't a bad thing.  Good purchase it seems.

For a Christian band too, the lyrics seem fine.  If I didn't know they were a Christian band, I probably wouldn't have been able to tell based on these lyrics, besides the Doobie cover, which is great BTW.  Were their lyrics on older albums more promintent in the religious department.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 23, 2014, 01:22:08 PM
Picked up No More Hell to Pay as it was sitting on the shelves while I was out shopping this weekend.  I've listened to the first half, and I'm really liking what I'm hearing.  It's just simple, no frills, yet well written and performed rock, and great songs.  The production IMO isn't the greatest but for some reason it fits the style and the songs.  Reminds me a bit of Dokken, which isn't a bad thing.  Good purchase it seems.

For a Christian band too, the lyrics seem fine.  If I didn't know they were a Christian band, I probably wouldn't have been able to tell based on these lyrics, besides the Doobie cover, which is great BTW.  Were their lyrics on older albums more promintent in the religious department.

They were very clever with the lyrics. Alot of them could be taken as love song material if you didn't know God was involved.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2014, 02:03:01 PM
Definitely a band that should be right up your alley, Wolf.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2014, 09:24:31 PM
Picked up No More Hell to Pay as it was sitting on the shelves while I was out shopping this weekend.  I've listened to the first half, and I'm really liking what I'm hearing.  It's just simple, no frills, yet well written and performed rock, and great songs.  The production IMO isn't the greatest but for some reason it fits the style and the songs.  Reminds me a bit of Dokken, which isn't a bad thing.  Good purchase it seems.

For a Christian band too, the lyrics seem fine.  If I didn't know they were a Christian band, I probably wouldn't have been able to tell based on these lyrics, besides the Doobie cover, which is great BTW.  Were their lyrics on older albums more promintent in the religious department.

They were very clever with the lyrics. Alot of them could be taken as love song material if you didn't know God was involved.

I think I can handle that.  I actually got that vibe from some of these songs.

Definitely a band that should be right up your alley, Wolf.

Yeah, I'm quite enjoying this album.  Might have to check out more.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2014, 10:07:33 PM
Also, I gotta say I'm quite impressed by the guitar on here too.  Great solos.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2014, 10:09:27 PM
Did you like the tracks from Against The Law??   Very under rated IMO.

Re the guitars , if you see them live you'll be surprised how much of it is Michael Sweet.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 23, 2014, 10:39:14 PM
Wolf check out Second Coming (great re recording of classics) and The Covering (great cover album)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2014, 04:32:16 AM
Did you like the tracks from Against The Law??   Very under rated IMO.

Re the guitars , if you see them live you'll be surprised how much of it is Michael Sweet.

All three of those songs you posted were really good.

Wolf check out Second Coming (great re recording of classics) and The Covering (great cover album)

Gonna look for some more of their stuff on the weekend.  I'll probably get whatever I can find to be honest.  I love when bands re-record their stuff, usually always works well.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 24, 2014, 01:20:15 PM
Did you like the tracks from Against The Law??   Very under rated IMO.

Re the guitars , if you see them live you'll be surprised how much of it is Michael Sweet.

All three of those songs you posted were really good.

Wolf check out Second Coming (great re recording of classics) and The Covering (great cover album)

Gonna look for some more of their stuff on the weekend.  I'll probably get whatever I can find to be honest.  I love when bands re-record their stuff, usually always works well.

Apart from the Geoff Tate rerecords on FU...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2014, 04:37:02 PM
Yes, and also Ten's horrific best of re-records.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2014, 05:08:09 PM
I hear that Karlsson has just given Tolkki the ok to re-record the first few Allen/Lande disks to bring them up to date  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2014, 05:14:17 PM
I hear that Karlsson has just given Tolkki the ok to re-record the first few Allen/Lande disks to bring them up to date  ;D

You actually got me there for about half a second.  My heart rate just went through the roof.  :lol

Karlsson redoing Tolkki on the other hand.......
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2014, 05:15:26 PM
I was doing odds on the reply I'd get from you and the favourite was "Don't even joke about that shit man "   ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 24, 2014, 05:40:05 PM
Both Stryper and Twisted Sister did an excellent job of rerecording songs.

I remember listening to the rerecording done by Dokken a couple of years ago and it was a grind to get through.

Usually I'm not a fan of bands doing this, but Stryper did it right!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2014, 05:42:56 PM
The Dokken was okay, but nothing on the originals.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 24, 2014, 05:45:07 PM
There wouldn't be too many other than Sweet (among the real wailers from back in the day) who could even get close these days without downtuning to oblivion.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 24, 2014, 06:32:23 PM
I hear that Karlsson has just given Tolkki the ok to re-record the first few Allen/Lande disks to bring them up to date  ;D

DONT EVEN JOKE ABOUT THEPAT SHIT MAN!!!!!

Mood Swings II was pretty well done.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 24, 2014, 07:02:24 PM
Mood Swings 2 is worth it for the new tracks.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 25, 2014, 02:46:12 AM
There wouldn't be too many other than Sweet (among the real wailers from back in the day) who could even get close these days without downtuning to oblivion.

Sweet hits some high notes on the latest track from the Sweet/Lynch. Very impressive.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 25, 2014, 04:02:40 AM
I know I'm not telling you something you don't already know, but his vocals at the end of Marching Into Battle are just fucking incredible.

Never thought I'd ever enjoy a Christian album as much as I am this one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 27, 2014, 07:32:10 AM
There doesn't seem to be a Thunder thread, so maybe this is the place to mention that a new album is coming out:

https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/news-feed/2014/11/27/thunder-wonder-days-new-album-new-label-new-website-new-everything (https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/news-feed/2014/11/27/thunder-wonder-days-new-album-new-label-new-website-new-everything)

I'm not that surprised, because they were always active more or less despite the official split, and I'm fairly excited 'cause I'm a big fan.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 27, 2014, 08:00:43 AM
I can't say I'm a huge fan of Thunder (certainly like some of their stuff) but the new (live) title track sounds pretty good.......keeping tabs on this one. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 27, 2014, 01:20:36 PM
First Thunder album was a classic but they didn't rise to those heights again for me. Most albums were fine but no magic dust in the songwriting.  Danny is a great singer though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 27, 2014, 07:20:37 PM
My thoughts on the new Harem Scarem are a bit similar to the Ten album.    Since Big Bang Theory (which I thought was awful) HS have been mostly "dialling it in" as far as I'm concerned.  It was all solid stuff that would be great from anyone else but it was HS by the numbers.

This album has a lot more of those little things that I hear and appreciate........a bit more variety and depth to the songwriting and especially the guitar playing than they've had in a while.   I think it'll be a grower and likely their best since Believe.  Having said that .......like the Ten it is a touch mid paced and would've benefited from another rocking track or two.

I rate it 86%
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 27, 2014, 07:44:48 PM
My thoughts on the new Harem Scarem are a bit similar to the Ten album.    Since Big Bang Theory (which I thought was awful) HS have been mostly "dialling it in" as far as I'm concerned.  It was all solid stuff that would be great from anyone else but it was HS by the numbers.

This album has a lot more of those little things that I hear and appreciate........a bit more variety and depth to the songwriting and especially the guitar playing than they've had in a while.   I think it'll be a grower and likely their best since Believe.  Having said that .......like the Ten it is a touch mid paced and would've benefited from another rocking track or two.

I rate it 86%

This actually sounds good to me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 28, 2014, 12:13:10 AM
First Thunder album was a classic but they didn't rise to those heights again for me. Most albums were fine but no magic dust in the songwriting.  Danny is a great singer though.

I thought the first was decent, the second one "Laughing on Judgement Day" is an absolute classic for me. Behind Closed Doors and The Magnificent Seventh are also great, the rest is a little inconsistent but always has many great songs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 28, 2014, 04:35:34 AM
100%  ;)

I'm thinking at least a 98%.  :lol

Both of us so close.  :lol

https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/reviews/2014/11/28/harem-scarem-thirteen-review
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 28, 2014, 04:39:30 AM
Damn  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 28, 2014, 04:45:47 AM
There doesn't seem to be a Thunder thread, so maybe this is the place to mention that a new album is coming out:

https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/news-feed/2014/11/27/thunder-wonder-days-new-album-new-label-new-website-new-everything (https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/news-feed/2014/11/27/thunder-wonder-days-new-album-new-label-new-website-new-everything)

I'm not that surprised, because they were always active more or less despite the official split, and I'm fairly excited 'cause I'm a big fan.
Sweet! Thunder is a great live band. The two first albums are classics to me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 28, 2014, 04:50:21 AM
Damn  :lol

I got excited cause I thought I had posted 99, and was slightly disappointed when I saw the 98.  :rollin
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 28, 2014, 05:20:35 AM
Allen/Lande got 84 , so does that mean the Harem Scarem is awesome or just 15 points better than total shit ?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on November 28, 2014, 05:31:21 AM
Allen/Lande got 84
(https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/eagersplode.gif~original)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 28, 2014, 01:41:12 PM
Frontiers are probably MR.com's only surviving sponsor. That can be the only reason. for that score  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 28, 2014, 03:49:45 PM
You can tell by the review, that he isn't a fan, but doesn't want to bash the shit out of it like the rest of us, due his strong link with Frontiers.  I did expect a score around 90, so 84 is something I guess, for them, which is pretty sad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 28, 2014, 04:44:40 PM
You can tell by the review, that he isn't a fan, but doesn't want to bash the shit out of it like the rest of us, due his strong link with Frontiers.  I did expect a score around 90, so 84 is something I guess, for them, which is pretty sad.

What's the lowest MR has ever given anything, off the top of your head?  That's the bottom scale, not 0.  So, if the worst was a 75, then their ratings are between 75-100.  Or, just deduct 75 from everything, and it's a 0-25 scale.  If so, then Allen/Lande got a 9.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on November 28, 2014, 08:42:52 PM
You can tell by the review, that he isn't a fan, but doesn't want to bash the shit out of it like the rest of us, due his strong link with Frontiers.  I did expect a score around 90, so 84 is something I guess, for them, which is pretty sad.

What's the lowest MR has ever given anything, off the top of your head?  That's the bottom scale, not 0.  So, if the worst was a 75, then their ratings are between 75-100.  Or, just deduct 75 from everything, and it's a 0-25 scale.  If so, then Allen/Lande got a 9.

I think I have seen some stuff as low as the 40s, but can't remember off the top of my head what it was. I do remember once going through the past reviews trying to find the lowest ones.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 29, 2014, 10:57:40 AM
You can tell by the review, that he isn't a fan, but doesn't want to bash the shit out of it like the rest of us, due his strong link with Frontiers.  I did expect a score around 90, so 84 is something I guess, for them, which is pretty sad.

What's the lowest MR has ever given anything, off the top of your head?  That's the bottom scale, not 0.  So, if the worst was a 75, then their ratings are between 75-100.  Or, just deduct 75 from everything, and it's a 0-25 scale.  If so, then Allen/Lande got a 9.

I think I have seen some stuff as low as the 40s, but can't remember off the top of my head what it was. I do remember once going through the past reviews trying to find the lowest ones.

I seem to remember something getting 25% or something, but yeah, not much comes in at less than 75%
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2014, 03:46:41 AM
You can tell by the review, that he isn't a fan, but doesn't want to bash the shit out of it like the rest of us, due his strong link with Frontiers.  I did expect a score around 90, so 84 is something I guess, for them, which is pretty sad.

What's the lowest MR has ever given anything, off the top of your head?  That's the bottom scale, not 0.  So, if the worst was a 75, then their ratings are between 75-100.  Or, just deduct 75 from everything, and it's a 0-25 scale.  If so, then Allen/Lande got a 9.

I think I have seen some stuff as low as the 40s, but can't remember off the top of my head what it was. I do remember once going through the past reviews trying to find the lowest ones.

I seem to remember something getting 25% or something, but yeah, not much comes in at less than 75%

I was about to post this exact number, I think it may have been Brett Michaels.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2014, 04:02:27 AM
Speaking of MR, I'm happy with the rating for the Vega album.  They are a terrific band and the album is stellar.

Also, I found a JB Hi Fi on the weekend which must have a Stryper fan who works there.  I think every album was on the shelves.  I picked up Second Coming and the new CD/DVD.  Haven't listened yet.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2014, 04:56:02 AM
Can't remember which thread we've been posting Sweet/Lynch stuff but here's a new video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmmolV-B7xE

This album is sounding wonderful.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 03, 2014, 04:58:27 AM
New Eclipse in February.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 03, 2014, 02:54:45 PM
Kade, let me know what you think of Second Coming & Live at the Whiskey
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 03, 2014, 04:04:02 PM
Can't remember which thread we've been posting Sweet/Lynch stuff but here's a new video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmmolV-B7xE

This album is sounding wonderful.

Could be the best thing George has done in 20 years.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2014, 04:44:10 AM
Kade, let me know what you think of Second Coming & Live at the Whiskey

Managed to have checked out a bit from both and Second Coming is definitely a different beast than No More Hell to Pay.  It definitely seems that NMHTP was a step in heavier direction for the band which is what threw me a little going into Second Coming.

The Jesus lyrics are a lot more promintent on this older stuff which I'm not too sure about and the songs are definitely less heavier and poppier than NMHTP but very cathy.  There is some crackers on here though like; Loud and Clear, Soldiers Under Command, To Hell With the Devil, Free and the UFO inspired More Than A Man.  I think this style was not what I expected, and if I can fully accept the lyrics I think I'll enjoy it a lot more.

Had a look at the DVD and they are a great live band, Sweet inparticular is a terrific and charasmatic frontman and performer.  Really liking watching them live.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 04, 2014, 01:11:31 PM
Kade, let me know what you think of Second Coming & Live at the Whiskey

Managed to have checked out a bit from both and Second Coming is definitely a different beast than No More Hell to Pay.  It definitely seems that NMHTP was a step in heavier direction for the band which is what threw me a little going into Second Coming.

The Jesus lyrics are a lot more promintent on this older stuff which I'm not too sure about and the songs are definitely less heavier and poppier than NMHTP but very cathy.  There is some crackers on here though like; Loud and Clear, Soldiers Under Command, To Hell With the Devil, Free and the UFO inspired More Than A Man.  I think this style was not what I expected, and if I can fully accept the lyrics I think I'll enjoy it a lot more.

Had a look at the DVD and they are a great live band, Sweet inparticular is a terrific and charasmatic frontman and performer.  Really liking watching them live.

i'm as atheist as Richard Dawkins but the lyrics don't bother me - just like most shitty AOR lyrics in general.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2014, 03:05:04 PM
Kade, let me know what you think of Second Coming & Live at the Whiskey

Managed to have checked out a bit from both and Second Coming is definitely a different beast than No More Hell to Pay.  It definitely seems that NMHTP was a step in heavier direction for the band which is what threw me a little going into Second Coming.

The Jesus lyrics are a lot more promintent on this older stuff which I'm not too sure about and the songs are definitely less heavier and poppier than NMHTP but very cathy.  There is some crackers on here though like; Loud and Clear, Soldiers Under Command, To Hell With the Devil, Free and the UFO inspired More Than A Man.  I think this style was not what I expected, and if I can fully accept the lyrics I think I'll enjoy it a lot more.

Had a look at the DVD and they are a great live band, Sweet inparticular is a terrific and charasmatic frontman and performer.  Really liking watching them live.

i'm as atheist as Richard Dawkins but the lyrics don't bother me - just like most shitty AOR lyrics in general.

mostly yeah, but some of the songs like Reach Out are a little blatant for my liking, but I'll live with it.  I just like the style of the lyrics on NMHTP a bit better.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 04, 2014, 04:55:46 PM
Wolf, I'm confident you'll really enjoy their covers album, The Covering
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2014, 06:03:32 PM
Wolf, I'm confident you'll really enjoy their covers album, The Covering

I think so too.  The band definitely has the chops to pull the songs off.

is Second Coming a good representation of their entire catalog?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2014, 06:08:36 PM
I'd say it's a decent sample of their better stuff.............aside from Against The Law , which I love and isn't represented there.   It's also a lot less preachy that album........in fact it's not at all really .
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2014, 08:51:43 PM
A couple of mini-reviews for the new releases I'm going through if anyone's interested (Vega up next wolf).  Both of these albums are getting huge reviews around the traps.

White Widdow: Crossfire  Some young guys from my hometown that play cheesy melodic rock with huge guitars , huge harmonies/whoa ooos  and even bigger keys.   They remind me a bit of say Heavens Edge (vox are a dead ringer) or Roxus crossed with The Magnificent..........just don't quite hit the heights of The Magnificent.    Certainly worth a listen if you don't mind some cliched 80's hard rock.

I dropped the rating on this on second listen as it's just a bit too samey throughout - it's certainly no Frontiers special , but as is often the case these days there's not as much character/variation as I'd like.  Still........well above the average and I rate it 80%

Samples:

Caught In The Crossfire  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL2kfF5a0Fw
Dreams Don't Die  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uer50E4haAk

That second track opens with a driving riff that reminds me of a classic Bonfire track


Triosphere: The Heart of the Matter   Certainly better than their first , which I thought was good without being great.   This has a lot more depth to it.   Very heavy in parts but also melodic with some nice ballsy female vocals.

At first I thought this was a bit samey too but on second listen I upgraded this one.  Although there is little variation in sound between songs there is enough in the way of decent vocal melodies to give the songs some character. At times the jumpy, rhythmic riffing on this reminded me of Strato's Nemesis.  No real filler either.  I expect Chad, Kade and possibly Paul would really dig this one.

Rated 89%

Sample:

The Heart's Dominion:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqFtlAnhzu8

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 05, 2014, 05:10:47 AM
I'd say it's a decent sample of their better stuff.............aside from Against The Law , which I love and isn't represented there.   It's also a lot less preachy that album........in fact it's not at all really .

If that's the album you pimped a few pages back when I asked for suggestions, they were awesome and I'm gonna check that one out I think.


Some of the older White Widdow stuff I've heard was pretty good.  They were one I always wanted to check out more.  This new stuff sound pretty good.

That Triosphere song is indeed solid.  Not an overly big fan of female vox but this is good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 05, 2014, 05:18:56 AM
I'd say it's a decent sample of their better stuff.............aside from Against The Law , which I love and isn't represented there.   It's also a lot less preachy that album........in fact it's not at all really .

If that's the album you pimped a few pages back when I asked for suggestions, they were awesome and I'm gonna check that one out I think.



That's the one.   

Classic era Stryper

(https://www.laweekly.com/imager/we-dig-the-yellow-stripes-strike/b/original/4906217/a5e0/stryperpress.jpg)



Against The Law era Stryper

(https://www.legendaryrockinterviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Stryper-Against-the-Law-Back.jpg)


 ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 05, 2014, 07:56:23 AM
Vega: Stereo Messiah     I found it to be one of "those albums" - undeniable quality in production and performance but a bit too familiar - a bit like Work of Art in that regard but with a bit more variety.  I heard elements of a number of bands but a slightly softer Dynazty came to mind many times , just not quite as strong in the vocals (but then , who is?)  Having said that the guy in Vega is damn good himself.

I also feel it's 3 or 4 songs too long. 

I can see why you like it Kade and I had a hard time rating many songs - it was often a case of not good enough for 4/5 stars but not bad enough for 3 and so the rating could depend a lot on the day you strike me.  For now......78% , which is by no means a poor rating.  I didn't hit the Skip button , put it that way.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 05, 2014, 08:32:19 AM
Neonfly: Strangers In Paradise  A frustrating listen and I hit the Skip button often.  I almost felt guilty rating most of the tracks at 3/5.  These guys can seriously play but their writing style doesn't agree with me at all.  I can see that this might be quite a polarising release - some will undoubtedly think it's brilliant - but I found a rather disjointed writing style that results in  well played music that is thoroughly unmemorable.

The only track I would come back to is the one Chad linked to earlier in the thread.

68%
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 05, 2014, 08:41:33 AM
Neonfly: Strangers In Paradise  A frustrating listen and I hit the Skip button often.  I almost felt guilty rating most of the tracks at 3/5.  These guys can seriously play but their writing style doesn't agree with me at all.  I can see that this might be quite a polarising release - some will undoubtedly think it's brilliant - but I found a rather disjointed writing style that results in  well played music that is thoroughly unmemorable.

Kinda how I felt on my first cursory listen.  Was working late, and had it on in the background.  I'll give it a proper listen, but compared to the debut, I was seriously underwhelmed.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 05, 2014, 10:51:58 AM
Played the Triosphere and liked it. Didn't jump out as excellent but certainly worth a listen. Not sure I'll buy it but will give it another go.

I've tried White Widdow before and they were ok. I like that first song you linked but your write up is spot on. Let's party like it's 1987  :biggrin:

Sampled the Vega. A bit too samey for  me. PLayed Dynazty's Renatus again today and really liked it. Suffers a bit after how awesome the last one was and yes, what a great singer. He reminds me of a young DIO without really trying to be Dio, unlike Mr Lande.

Another I played today was the Chris Laney's Legion. First time I listened I was underwhelmed. Today I liked it alot. He's one of those guys who "gets it". HIs voice isn't the best but it's adequate. As always his production is top notch. I'd have him produce my album for sure  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 05, 2014, 01:40:19 PM
Vega: Stereo Messiah     I found it to be one of "those albums" - undeniable quality in production and performance but a bit too familiar - a bit like Work of Art in that regard but with a bit more variety.  I heard elements of a number of bands but a slightly softer Dynazty came to mind many times , just not quite as strong in the vocals (but then , who is?)  Having said that the guy in Vega is damn good himself.

I also feel it's 3 or 4 songs too long. 

I can see why you like it Kade and I had a hard time rating many songs - it was often a case of not good enough for 4/5 stars but not bad enough for 3 and so the rating could depend a lot on the day you strike me.  For now......78% , which is by no means a poor rating.  I didn't hit the Skip button , put it that way.

That's fair enough but as I said, this one opened up a lot with more listens.  The first couple was a little 'meh' for me.

Sampled the Vega. A bit too samey for  me. PLayed Dynazty's Renatus again today and really liked it. Suffers a bit after how awesome the last one was and yes, what a great singer. He reminds me of a young DIO without really trying to be Dio, unlike Mr Lande.

Speaking of Dynazty, that's one album I come back to quite a bit.  High quality album right there.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 06, 2014, 06:24:18 AM
He reminds me of a young DIO without really trying to be Dio, unlike Mr Lande.

What about that Nils Patrick whatshisface?   He sounds like he needs a dose of Agarol he's trying so hard to be Dio.  And he actually has a real nice natural voice when he (rarely) sticks to his natural tone.


AC/DC: Rock Or Bust:   Ain't no box o' chocolates.  Not their best. Not their worst. 75%


There ends my in depth review of the new AC/DC  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 06, 2014, 06:32:54 AM
It's AC/DC, so you know what you're getting. :lol
I really love some of the songs, others are just kinda there. A few little things that are a bit different for them if you're an AC/DC fan (some of those riffs are quite atypical), but seem like the same old if you're not. A bit more rock than Black Ice, and I think it's a bit better, but it's not a huge deviation, as expected.

"Not their best, not their worst" seems like a fair assessment on this one, bl5150. :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 06, 2014, 06:35:34 AM
 ;D   Yeah - I agree in that I was a bit surprised at the groove present on some tracks.  And I also tended to like the stuff that was a bit different - Baptism By Fire comes to mind.

*waits for Blob to say that's the only track on it he hates :D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 06, 2014, 06:41:04 AM
Yeah, a lot more single note riffs on this one. I like Rock The House's main riff and groove the most. And Miss Adventure and Emission Control have slightly surprising riffs for modern AC/DC. Those are probably all among my favourites on the album, although I also love the more straight up title track.

:lol I haven't listened to the album that much yet, but I don't mind Baptism of Fire. Not one of my favourites, but not one of my least either. Middle of the pack for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2014, 03:11:01 AM
New Europe in March

https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/news-feed/2014/12/05/europe-release-%E2%80%98war-kings%E2%80%99-udr-records-march
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2014, 03:13:14 AM
I haven't liked any of their 2000s output at all, but I'll check it out. They seem to change it up enough from album to album that it may not be more of the same.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zydar on December 07, 2014, 03:14:28 AM
Nice! I really like their post-reunion albums. I'll be sure to check this out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2014, 03:17:06 AM
Just saw that Daniel Heiman (Lost Horizon) is back in a new band called Harmony.  Sounds pretty generic but worth a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NPgp5MFivg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NPgp5MFivg
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2014, 03:21:21 AM
Sounds ok, but generic. It's a shame he hasn't done much since Lost Horizon, because he's a great vocalist. I have the album with Heed he did, which was pretty generic metal, but there was a song I liked on that. And that was almost a decade ago now. Damn.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 07, 2014, 03:59:29 AM
I've had the Harmony for a while and it has some really good stuff on it....and yeah a couple of fillers.  For the record it's their third album but the first with Heiman as full time (guest  ::) ) singer.  He guested on a track on the last album too.  Solid band with a bit of a neoclassical vibe - I'd rather listen to them than Malmsteen's more recent output.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2014, 04:15:16 AM
I'll definitely check this Harmony album then.  I remember that Heed album too Blob, but like you, was pretty underwhelmed.

A Flame to the Ground Beneath simply has some of the greatest metal vocals ever put on tape, brilliant album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 07, 2014, 04:54:26 AM
Nice! I really like their post-reunion albums. I'll be sure to check this out.

This
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on December 07, 2014, 05:38:18 AM
I like the new Europe album cover.  Pretty cool looking,
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 07, 2014, 06:53:38 AM
A Flame to the Ground Beneath simply has some of the greatest metal vocals ever put on tape, brilliant album.

A- fucking -men, brother.

Bought the Harmony on Friday. Not all the way through it. Definitely not Lost Horizon though, but vocally it's great.


And Brent, while I haven't pulled the trigger on the latest Crystal Eyes yet, I did grab Confessions Of The Maker because of Heiman. I love it!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 09, 2014, 08:18:05 PM
Full song from the Castronovo, Blades, Aldrich album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeZKAVUyKQc

Doesn't really change my mind from before. It's not bad at all, but it's fairly typical melodic rock. The production is good, the performances are good, but the song is a bit too typical, even though perfectly listenable. I would have loved to hear an outright hard rock album from these guys.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2014, 04:36:06 AM
Frontiers records strikes again.  It's right up my alley though and I'll definitely check this out.  But did Doug really leave Whitesnake to play on a generic Frontiers project?  Wow.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 10, 2014, 04:38:55 AM
I hope he finds a good permanent home, because I loved his work in Whitesnake. While he does well here, he's best with some good hard rock.
I'll probably check out the album too, as I like these guys, and I do like this style, it just doesn't sound particularly distinctive or fresh.

You summed it up well. Frontiers records strikes again. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2014, 04:43:42 AM
You are right, Doug was good in Whitesnake as that fits his style more.  This is just something that any skilled guitarist could shred to, there's no personality needed really.  Even with Dio Doug was a lot more distinct.  To me, he was making a good name for himself in regards to the instrument, but this does seem like a step back, even though I'm all for it.

Yeah, it just reminds me of LRS or Three Lions or anything thrown together from the label.  At least we're pretty much guarunteed some good melodic rock.  Production sounds solid too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 10, 2014, 04:48:11 AM
The production reminds me of the last couple of Journey/Schon albums. I really like Castronovo's drum sound, and Aldrich always has a good guitar tone.

Like all of these thrown together Frontiers projects, this won't amount to anything more than a one off album, so hopefully Aldrich finds a good home soon. I really liked Killing the Dragon too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 10, 2014, 04:50:25 AM
I can't see it happening but I'd love to see him get together with Kelly Hansen again and do a rockin' Hurricane album - get Kelly out of his Foreigner comfort zone.   To me that would be a one off project worth hearing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2014, 04:52:19 AM
Like all of these thrown together Frontiers projects, this won't amount to anything more than a one off album, so hopefully Aldrich finds a good home soon. I really liked Killing the Dragon too.

Yeah, this is true.  I hope he does something more meaningful too.  Killing the Dragon is one of my favs from Dio and Doug's solos is a big reason for that.  His live performances of the old songs was always fantastic too.  I'd actually take Doug in Dio over Snake.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2014, 04:52:48 AM
I can't see it happening but I'd love to see him get together with Kelly Hansen again and do a rockin' Hurricane album - get Kelly out of his Foreigner comfort zone.   To me that would be a one off project worth hearing.

Gotta go and try and listen to that band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 10, 2014, 04:53:19 AM
  His live performances of the old songs was always fantastic too.  I'd actually take Doug in Dio over Snake.

We Rock off Evil or Divine is a fave  :tup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjJmTKLzMc
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2014, 05:00:22 AM
That would still be my fav Dio DVD, fantastic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2014, 05:17:09 AM
I saw that Revulution Saints video yesterday and was ging to link it hre, but it sucked so bad, I just didn't have the energy.

And I really don't get the hub bub for Doug Aldrich. I do like Killing The Dragon too, but if I'm being honest, it's still kind of weak.
Yeah, he sounded great on the live stuff, but that was all someone else's material. There's nothing memorable from his time in Dio where you can pint to and go "holy shit!".  There's nothing original in the least on his Dio albums. Granted I haven't heard anything from Whitesnake, but I just cannot imagine it'd be that good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 10, 2014, 08:23:05 AM
I can't say that I ever understood the hub bub for Magica. Good album, but I felt Killing the Dragon was much better
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2014, 08:27:19 AM
I can't say that I ever understood the hub bub for Magica. Good album, but I felt Killing the Dragon was much better

I have found that Majica has aged fairly well for me. That said, I was still extremely disappointed with it. I toyed with the idea of doing a  favorite Dio song countdown so I have a list compiled. I think there are 3 songs from Magica on it, but I don't think there's anything from KTD.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 10, 2014, 08:51:48 AM
Never got into Magica either. Killing The Dragon is a really solid album though, and the title track is one of my favourite Dio songs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 10, 2014, 03:04:13 PM
I can't see it happening but I'd love to see him get together with Kelly Hansen again and do a rockin' Hurricane album - get Kelly out of his Foreigner comfort zone.   To me that would be a one off project worth hearing.

I'd go for this too. Slave To The Thrill is a great aalbum that just missed out on my top 50.

As for DIO, I really didn't like anything after Dream Evil, though KTD was better than Magica.Such a shit concept that one, but gave Luca Turilli a great deal of inspiration  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 10, 2014, 03:21:11 PM
We were talking about Lynch Mob in one of these threads but can't find it now. I said that Smoke & Mirrors was crap- I was mixing it up with Smoke This (which is crap). S&M is actually a really good album.
The old memory isn't what it was.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2014, 10:49:54 PM
Gotta get that Smoke and Mirrors cd out again then.

Also, I was a big fan of Magica.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 11, 2014, 08:54:11 AM
Seeing as we're talking Lynch Mob - the latest (Sun Red Sun) is just out.   Whether I recommend you buy it probably depends on if you already have the Sound Mountain Sessions EP.

The disc seems to be getting great reviews but (as a big fan) I'm not so over the moon.  The disc has 11 tracks - one of which is an instrumental intro, 4 of which had already been released on the EP (remastered here) and so there's really only 6 new songs.  Of those I'd rate one as excellent (track 1) , 2 more as good and 3 as filler.    The EP tracks are all good to excellent.

So if you already have the EP...............I'd probably just download track one.

Rating: 76% which is basically made up of the Sound Mountain stuff (85%) and the rest (70%)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2014, 02:44:33 PM
I'll definitely listen to the Lynch Mob before I purchase.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 09:21:13 PM
New Whitesnake album coming next year, tentative late March/early April 2015 release. Hopefully it doesn't completely suck without Aldrich.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/david-coverdale-on-new-whitesnake-guitarist-joel-hoekstra-hes-incendiary-an-amazing-musician/
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2014, 04:17:13 AM
What's David got against Reb? You'd think after 10 years, he'd become the main man, guess not.  Just because he doesn't look or sound like Sykes?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 12, 2014, 04:22:09 AM
Reb Beach has been in the band for over a decade, probably longer than anyone else at this point, so I'd say Coverdale has nothing at all against him. In terms of songwriting, he may not want to be part of it. I don't see an issue.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2014, 04:34:34 AM
Reb Beach has been in the band for over a decade, probably longer than anyone else at this point, so I'd say Coverdale has nothing at all against him. In terms of songwriting, he may not want to be part of it. I don't see an issue.

I know he obviously has nothing against him and always talks Reb up.  Perhaps their songwriting styles don't mix or something, I don't know.  Will be interesting to hear the new record and Joel's influences.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2014, 04:37:45 AM
New Eclipse in Feb.

https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/news-feed/2014/12/12/eclipse-unleash-armageddonize-february-20-frontiers

Crap album name though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2kzD71fYgI EPK
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 12, 2014, 07:06:15 AM
The Eclipse sounds even more predictable than I expected.  Aside from a track or two I felt that Bleed and Scream was massively overrated in most quarters and Martensson's whole sound is like a hard rock Work of Art. Sounds good but rather one dimensional and samey.   

Ironically the only material of his that I find consistently well written is outside of his own band on side projects like Hitchcock, Jamison.  I'll check out the new Eclipse but I'd be surprised if I like more than a couple of tracks.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 12, 2014, 07:09:28 AM
I didn't even listen to it. Haven't been much interested in their past releases, and I gave those albums more than a fair chance. They're not bad, but I agree they're overrated.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 12, 2014, 07:12:01 AM
So what about this one guys?...........99%  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2014, 01:34:42 PM
The Eclipse sounds even more predictable than I expected.  Aside from a track or two I felt that Bleed and Scream was massively overrated in most quarters and Martensson's whole sound is like a hard rock Work of Art. Sounds good but rather one dimensional and samey.   

Ironically the only material of his that I find consistently well written is outside of his own band on side projects like Hitchcock, Jamison.  I'll check out the new Eclipse but I'd be surprised if I like more than a couple of tracks.

This is what I'm fearing too.  I really loved Bleed and Scream and when it was released, and I wouldn't say it was that overrated, but it hasn't aged that well for me. I enjoy it when I listen and the songs IMO are there, but it doesn't have the charm and lasting power like the other projects you mentioned from Erik.  I'm fearing this one even for me will just pass by after a few listens.

So what about this one guys?...........99%  ;D

I like that number too.


I see the new Billy Idol got a 93, but the song I heard from it was absolute garbage. 

The Nigel Bailey which I'm interested in getting got 82.  Surely it can't be worse than The Great Divide.  :lol  Have you had a listen to this one Brent?  The Three Lions album was nothing spectacular but seems to be something I can go back to and quite enjoy from time to time.  His voice doesn't have much variety, but certainly has a nice tone.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2014, 03:27:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djkoHA84r4k

For you Crazy Lixx fans.  This band never really did anything for me, but this is pretty good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 12, 2014, 03:35:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djkoHA84r4k

For you Crazy Lixx fans.  This band never really did anything for me, but this is pretty good.

decent
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 12, 2014, 03:55:28 PM
The Billy Idol was complete shite.

Crazy Lixx are excellent and the new album is pretty good far better than the last. It's no New Religion but back in the right direction. Had Chris Laney produced and not just mixed it , it would have been even better. That guy just gets it.

Not heard the Bailey yet. 3 Lions didn't do much for me.

Just listening to the Harem Scarem and it sounds good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2014, 04:39:04 PM
The Billy Idol was complete shite.

Crazy Lixx are excellent and the new album is pretty good far better than the last. It's no New Religion but back in the right direction. Had Chris Laney produced and not just mixed it , it would have been even better. That guy just gets it.

Not heard the Bailey yet. 3 Lions didn't do much for me.

Just listening to the Harem Scarem and it sounds good.

That's what I thought about the Billy Idol.

Might have to go back and check out some more Crazt Lixx as that song was really solid. 

Three Lions at first was unspectacular but it grew on me over time.  Not the greatest album, but solid material throughout.

Will purchase the Harem Scarem regardless I think.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 12, 2014, 05:52:05 PM
I've only spun the HS twice (so much good music in the last month).  Gotta give it another go.  I was much more impressed with it than the first samples suggested.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 14, 2014, 03:30:07 AM
I've only spun the HS twice (so much good music in the last month).  Gotta give it another go.  I was much more impressed with it than the first samples suggested.

That's good to hear.  I'm about to order it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 14, 2014, 04:19:17 AM
Just orderded;

Ten - Albion
Harem Scarem - Thirteen
Bailey - Long Way Down
Rated X - Rated X
Nightingale - Retribution
Whitesnake - New 84 live CD/DVD

Man, this is my first real haul for a while, getting pretty cheap and picky.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 14, 2014, 05:51:28 AM
Just orderded;

Ten - Albion
Harem Scarem - Thirteen
Bailey - Long Way Down
Rated X - Rated X
Nightingale - Retribution
Whitesnake - New 84 live CD/DVD

Man, this is my first real haul for a while, getting pretty cheap and picky.  :lol

Nightingale was excellent.  Especially good for me because Swano keeps it clean.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 14, 2014, 06:15:24 AM
That live Whitesnake sounds good, keep us updated with that one
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 14, 2014, 06:17:03 AM
That live Whitesnake sounds good, keep us updated with that one
I actually ordered that yesterday myself!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 14, 2014, 06:39:13 AM
I haven't listened to the Whitesnake myself but it's been getting pretty poor reviews.  Will try and check it out soonish.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2014, 04:22:43 AM
Just orderded;

Ten - Albion
Harem Scarem - Thirteen
Bailey - Long Way Down
Rated X - Rated X
Nightingale - Retribution
Whitesnake - New 84 live CD/DVD

Man, this is my first real haul for a while, getting pretty cheap and picky.  :lol

Nightingale was excellent.  Especially good for me because Swano keeps it clean.

Didn't know you have looked into Nightingale.  Pretty much all their vocals are clean and all their work is pretty solid.

I haven't listened to the Whitesnake myself but it's been getting pretty poor reviews.  Will try and check it out soonish.

Damn.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Deathless on December 15, 2014, 07:10:31 PM
Anybody catch the new Revolution Saints Track from last week? Super catchy, I'm really digging it.

"Turn Back Time" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeZKAVUyKQc)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2014, 07:49:03 PM
Yeah, we linked and discussed that on the last page.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 16, 2014, 06:31:23 AM
In my Christmas haul, I ordered Stryper's Live At The Whiskey. The samples sounded great. Haven't bought a Stryper album since the mid 80's!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on December 16, 2014, 09:36:29 AM
In my Christmas haul, I ordered Stryper's Live At The Whiskey. The samples sounded great. Haven't bought a Stryper album since the mid 80's!

Tim, what year is that tour from?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 16, 2014, 09:40:03 AM
In my Christmas haul, I ordered Stryper's Live At The Whiskey. The samples sounded great. Haven't bought a Stryper album since the mid 80's!

Tim, what year is that tour from?

Last year.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 16, 2014, 10:49:04 AM
In my Christmas haul, I ordered Stryper's Live At The Whiskey. The samples sounded great. Haven't bought a Stryper album since the mid 80's!

great cd/dvd...........sweet is a fantastic frontman
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2014, 01:38:47 PM
In my Christmas haul, I ordered Stryper's Live At The Whiskey. The samples sounded great. Haven't bought a Stryper album since the mid 80's!

I'm really enjoying this DVD.  I have a bit of a man crush of Sweet.  I wish he'd do more of the high stuff live though.

Second Coming I am enjoying more and more and seem to be getting more comfortable with the lyrics.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2014, 04:16:16 PM
I actually put the CD version of Live at the Whiskey in the car this morning for the first time on the way to work, and man it sounds fantastic.  One of the better sounding live cd's I've heard for a while.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 17, 2014, 11:36:29 AM

 hopefully Aldrich finds a good home soon. 

I just heard that Burning Rain are touring the US so perhaps he's just decided to go back to his own band and do a new album with Keith St John.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on December 18, 2014, 02:27:14 AM
Not really sure where to put this one, but a killer version of one of my fave Black Sabbath songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbVToMjGu5o&index=2&list=PL7PWF_0o-zKx-SWgvZxRZFjUOo6r_zEZ0
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 18, 2014, 02:33:37 AM
Not really sure where to put this one, but a killer version of one of my fave Black Sabbath songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbVToMjGu5o&index=2&list=PL7PWF_0o-zKx-SWgvZxRZFjUOo6r_zEZ0

How about the Classic metal thread you were just in?  ;D

Tony Martin fronted Black Sabbath is the version I grew up with and I have a soft spot for that era .  The albums could be a bit patchy but the best songs were  :metal  That vid has pretty amazing sound.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on December 18, 2014, 03:19:50 AM
Yeah I love the Martin era, probably my fave Sabbath era.
Amazing sound from the video, apparently Roland Grapow mixed it in his own studio.
I wish there was some more footage from that gig, couldn't find any though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 18, 2014, 01:23:48 PM
FUck, never heard this, a band with Martin and Grapow!?  Awesome.

EDIT: Oh just checked their website and Martin and Grapow aren't members :(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on December 19, 2014, 01:00:00 PM
Martin still sounds pretty good but couldn't reach the high notes in the chorus and the rest of the song was tuned down.
BUT still sounds amazing and dare I say it? Better than the original...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2014, 01:47:20 PM
Martin still sounds pretty good but couldn't reach the high notes in the chorus and the rest of the song was tuned down.
BUT still sounds amazing and dare I say it? Better than the original...

I wouldn't say it's better than the original, but it's a really good version.

Tony Martin could never hit any of his high notes live, even back in the day.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 20, 2014, 09:45:48 AM
That is a quality metal voice though. The tone is just awesome.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 21, 2014, 03:43:58 AM
That is a quality metal voice though. The tone is just awesome.

And instantly recognizable.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on December 21, 2014, 09:04:07 AM
Went old school driving to food shop today.  Played Stone Fury's -- Burn Like A Star. 


What a great album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 21, 2014, 09:08:49 AM
Went old school driving to food shop today.  Played Stone Fury's -- Burn Like A Star. 


What a great album.

Yep - good stuff.  Didn't make my top 10 of 1984 but got a mention in the also rans.....  some of the talent from that band (Gowdy) also went on to form Unruly Child which are also a big fave of mine.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on December 21, 2014, 09:14:06 AM
Yup, like them too as well as going to a prog outfit, World Trade. Bruce Gowdy, Guy Allison & Jay Schellen on their second album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 21, 2014, 09:15:45 AM
King, if I'm being honest, and I absolutely loved Burn Like A Star back in the day, it has NOT aged well.

Saw Kingdom Comeshot a couple of times. I was always hoping they'd play Break Down The Wall.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 22, 2014, 04:13:53 AM
What the hell is JSS thinking?  This is rubbish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=85MjeRWGnUE
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2014, 04:17:48 AM
Yeah - he's so angry and pissed off these days  ::)..............and everyone seems to be falling over themselves at how good it is.   I'm a JSS fanboy from way back but his recent solo stuff (almost all of it actually) isn't a patch on Talisman and the like.  It pains me to say it but I can't see myself buying or listening to any of his new material unless something really surprises.

And seriously........when the lyrics are so crapola I struggle to see why lyric vids are becoming the default option.  It just makes the lameness of the song all that much more obvious.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 22, 2014, 04:43:53 AM
It's obviously another one written by Orlando.  It sounds like a AMob throw away.

As you know I really liked Damage Control, but this seriously sounds like horseshit.  You mean you've heard good things about this?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2014, 04:51:39 AM
Yeah Damage Control was pretty solid.   When I say people are positive about it I'm talking about the usual suspects at mr.com.     For many years I was on the same wavelength as those guys but these days it's almost as if we've moved to opposite ends of the taste scale.  It seems as if anything that rocks a tad a has a little melody is the second coming or something.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 22, 2014, 05:15:30 AM
Yeah, I'm with you there.  I think over the last year I myself have become a lot more critical and actually don't get blinded by the artist so much and continue to get less impressed with things getting put out there.  mr.com seem to just lap it up more and more, no matter how mediocre and bland it is.

Also, on a different note Brent, I've been listening to that Trail of Murder album quite a bit lately, that's a geat metal album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2014, 09:37:55 AM
Awesome - as you well know I agree wholeheartedly..........in my top few albums of the decade. In fact one of the very few recent releases that stands up to the classics of the past in terms of the depth of songwriting and performances.

Hopefully Serious Black is in the same ballpark , although having heard a few tidbits through the grapevine I gather that the band themselves believe that the debut has been a bit rushed and that it'll set them up for their second album which will be where it all comes together as a real band.  Either way I think the debut is going to be pretty good.   I'm really hoping for a second Trail of Murder though.

If you ever come across a track called Not For The Faint Of Heart - let me know.  It's a non album track from the  Trail of Murder sessions that made it onto a few promo pressings but is otherwise impossible to find.  I've heard a live version (not the best sound) but it seems like another good track.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 22, 2014, 09:47:30 AM
The AMob sound doesn't fit Jeff's style at all. Not good
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on December 22, 2014, 10:37:37 AM
King, if I'm being honest, and I absolutely loved Burn Like A Star back in the day, it has NOT aged well.

Saw Kingdom Comeshot a couple of times. I was always hoping they'd play Break Down The Wall.

Maybe it's because I don't overplay it but when I put it on I still love it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 22, 2014, 02:02:15 PM
Yeah. That jss sounds like shit. And yes the Mr.com crowd think it's awesome. Maybe because Jeff posts on there and he may comment to them. I didn't slag it because I like Jeff and I guess he's doing what he wants because it is a departure from his bread and butter. It's just rubbish from what I've heard so far.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 22, 2014, 02:07:02 PM
I can't believe how bad it is.  It just sounds like Nickelback mixed with some AMob leftovers, so disappointing.

I'm having a listen to the latest Crazy Lixx and pretty damn good.  Not sure why I never cared for the band before.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 22, 2014, 02:25:22 PM
I think JSS and Yngwie need each other
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 22, 2014, 02:38:21 PM
I think JSS and Yngwie need each other

At this point in time, I think that couldn't be more true.  Could you imagine a reunion with these two?  Wow.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 22, 2014, 04:20:35 PM
I wonder  what their relationship is like, or if there is even one. I can only assume when Jeff left the band years ago it wasn't on the best of terms. And I can't see Yngwie calling him up and apologizing
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2014, 04:30:13 PM
To the best of my knowledge - from chatting to Jeff a few years back and interviews like that below (a number of years old mind you) I think if Yngwie wanted it Jeff would be there as long as he wasn't ripped off - so little chance  ;D







MetalKings.com: You also worked with Yngwie again on the album "Inspiration" (1996). How did it happen and didn't you plan to go on tour?

Jeff Scott Soto: Yngwie called me and asked to do a song with him. I said, "No problem! I'll come and do it!" So we were in his studio, spent some time together and even planned to go on tour. But that's when management got in our way again and screwed up the whole thing. That's why Mark Boals went on tour instead of me.

MetalKings.com: But I have the video clip of "Carry On Wayward Son" with Mark Boals lip-syching to your studio singing and the clip is shot live at a concert somewhere.

Jeff Scott Soto: (very suprised) Really? I never heard about it! Is it that very studio version with my vocals in the clip?

MetalKings.com: Yes.

Jeff Scott Soto: Unbelievable! That's the second time when Mark is lip-syching to my vocals in the history of Yngwie.

MetalKings.com: So when was the first time?

Jeff Scott Soto: It was just when I left the band on the song "I'll See The Light Tonight". Mark had short hair when he joined Yngwie for the first time and had to use hair extensions to become a real metal singer. That's when they took a live version of "I'll See The Light Tonight" and Mark was lip-syching to my voice in the clip. Some people even didn't know it was Mark in the clip.

MetalKings.com: So what do think if Yngwie calls you tomorrow and proposes to go on tour together? Would you do that?

 Jeff Scott Soto: I think I will. But only if we have equal rights and equal partnership and the management wouldn't dictate to us what to do or say. If it happens in the right way I'm all for that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 22, 2014, 09:20:40 PM
I can't believe how bad it is.  It just sounds like Nickelback mixed with some AMob leftovers, so disappointing.

I'm having a listen to the latest Crazy Lixx and pretty damn good.  Not sure why I never cared for the band before.

Still haven't checked out the new Crazy Lixx yet. It sounds like it's a bit closer in style to New Religion, which is the only album of theirs I care for. What I've heard of the new one has certainly been better than the last one, but still hasn't grabbed me. Hopefully the rest of the album is a bit better.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2014, 04:23:15 AM
Good to hear that JSS is open to it.  Yngwie at this stage of his career should definitely swallow his pride and do something like a reunion with JSS.  It would do magic things for his career.

I can't believe how bad it is.  It just sounds like Nickelback mixed with some AMob leftovers, so disappointing.

I'm having a listen to the latest Crazy Lixx and pretty damn good.  Not sure why I never cared for the band before.

Still haven't checked out the new Crazy Lixx yet. It sounds like it's a bit closer in style to New Religion, which is the only album of theirs I care for. What I've heard of the new one has certainly been better than the last one, but still hasn't grabbed me. Hopefully the rest of the album is a bit better.

It's the only thing I've listened to from the band.  It's definitely nothing groundbreaking or new and there's a few fillers, but all in all, a great melodic rock record.  Reminds me of HEAT and Danger Danger.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 23, 2014, 08:02:54 AM
I heard samples of the new Yngwie live album and I'm not sure who the singer was, but he sounded decent. JSS would be a major upgrade though
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 23, 2014, 12:56:36 PM
To the best of my knowledge - from chatting to Jeff a few years back and interviews like that below (a number of years old mind you) I think if Yngwie wanted it Jeff would be there as long as he wasn't ripped off - so little chance  ;D







MetalKings.com: You also worked with Yngwie again on the album "Inspiration" (1996). How did it happen and didn't you plan to go on tour?

Jeff Scott Soto: Yngwie called me and asked to do a song with him. I said, "No problem! I'll come and do it!" So we were in his studio, spent some time together and even planned to go on tour. But that's when management got in our way again and screwed up the whole thing. That's why Mark Boals went on tour instead of me.

MetalKings.com: But I have the video clip of "Carry On Wayward Son" with Mark Boals lip-syching to your studio singing and the clip is shot live at a concert somewhere.

Jeff Scott Soto: (very suprised) Really? I never heard about it! Is it that very studio version with my vocals in the clip?

MetalKings.com: Yes.

Jeff Scott Soto: Unbelievable! That's the second time when Mark is lip-syching to my vocals in the history of Yngwie.

MetalKings.com: So when was the first time?

Jeff Scott Soto: It was just when I left the band on the song "I'll See The Light Tonight". Mark had short hair when he joined Yngwie for the first time and had to use hair extensions to become a real metal singer. That's when they took a live version of "I'll See The Light Tonight" and Mark was lip-syching to my voice in the clip. Some people even didn't know it was Mark in the clip.

MetalKings.com: So what do think if Yngwie calls you tomorrow and proposes to go on tour together? Would you do that?

 Jeff Scott Soto: I think I will. But only if we have equal rights and equal partnership and the management wouldn't dictate to us what to do or say. If it happens in the right way I'm all for that.


I'm sure there was a Facebook post from JSS a couple of years ago reaching out to Yngwie but bemoaning the fact that Yng's wife won't let any of his old friends anywhere near him. Doesn't sound very hopeful.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2014, 03:16:24 PM
I heard samples of the new Yngwie live album and I'm not sure who the singer was, but he sounded decent. JSS would be a major upgrade though

I think it's been his current keyboard player.  I'm not sure who he is though.


To the best of my knowledge - from chatting to Jeff a few years back and interviews like that below (a number of years old mind you) I think if Yngwie wanted it Jeff would be there as long as he wasn't ripped off - so little chance  ;D







MetalKings.com: You also worked with Yngwie again on the album "Inspiration" (1996). How did it happen and didn't you plan to go on tour?

Jeff Scott Soto: Yngwie called me and asked to do a song with him. I said, "No problem! I'll come and do it!" So we were in his studio, spent some time together and even planned to go on tour. But that's when management got in our way again and screwed up the whole thing. That's why Mark Boals went on tour instead of me.

MetalKings.com: But I have the video clip of "Carry On Wayward Son" with Mark Boals lip-syching to your studio singing and the clip is shot live at a concert somewhere.

Jeff Scott Soto: (very suprised) Really? I never heard about it! Is it that very studio version with my vocals in the clip?

MetalKings.com: Yes.

Jeff Scott Soto: Unbelievable! That's the second time when Mark is lip-syching to my vocals in the history of Yngwie.

MetalKings.com: So when was the first time?

Jeff Scott Soto: It was just when I left the band on the song "I'll See The Light Tonight". Mark had short hair when he joined Yngwie for the first time and had to use hair extensions to become a real metal singer. That's when they took a live version of "I'll See The Light Tonight" and Mark was lip-syching to my voice in the clip. Some people even didn't know it was Mark in the clip.

MetalKings.com: So what do think if Yngwie calls you tomorrow and proposes to go on tour together? Would you do that?

 Jeff Scott Soto: I think I will. But only if we have equal rights and equal partnership and the management wouldn't dictate to us what to do or say. If it happens in the right way I'm all for that.


I'm sure there was a Facebook post from JSS a couple of years ago reaching out to Yngwie but bemoaning the fact that Yng's wife won't let any of his old friends anywhere near him. Doesn't sound very hopeful.

What the hell, he needs to ditch that bitch.


Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2014, 03:28:57 PM
I think I know why I never got into Crazy Lixx.  Just having a listen to New Religion and it's quite shit IMO.  They really stepped things up with the new album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 23, 2014, 07:52:35 PM
I think I know why I never got into Crazy Lixx. Just having a listen to New Religion and it's quite shit IMO.  They really stepped things up with the new album.

LOL
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2014, 08:35:36 PM
I think I know why I never got into Crazy Lixx. Just having a listen to New Religion and it's quite shit IMO.  They really stepped things up with the new album.

LOL


Sorry, not New Religion, I meant Riot Avenue.  I haven't checked out New Religion yet.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 23, 2014, 08:38:38 PM
I think I know why I never got into Crazy Lixx. Just having a listen to New Religion and it's quite shit IMO.  They really stepped things up with the new album.

LOL


Sorry, not New Religion, I meant Riot Avenue.  I haven't checked out New Religion yet.

Oh that's fine then. I didn't like Riot Avenue either. It's a run of the mill sleaze rock GNR clone, a definite step down from New Religion imo. New Religion has a much better balance of melody, while keeping the hard edge.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2014, 02:41:00 AM
Yeah, it was as generic and forgettable as sleaze rock can get.  Will let you know how I go with New Religion.  Really enjoying this new one though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 24, 2014, 03:21:29 AM
I just got the new one, and have only given it one listen so far. It's back to the style of New Religion, so I think you'll enjoy that one too.
Based on the first listen, I don't think this one is as strong as new Religion, and the choruses felt somewhat familiar, but it's definitely a huge step back in the right direction, and I'll definitely be giving it more listens. Plenty of cool songs on there.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2014, 03:31:04 AM
I do think with this album, even though I like it, the songs all seem a bit samey.  It's all pretty strong too, but there's definite songs a lot stronger than others.  Girls of the 80's and Call to Action are superb songs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 24, 2014, 04:04:24 AM
I got a bit of a sameyness by the end, but even the samey stuff is pretty enjoyable. Girls of the 80's was one of my favourites on first listen. The chorus of Heroes are Forever sounds very reminiscent of Blame It On Love from New Religion.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 24, 2014, 03:48:12 PM
I got a bit of a sameyness by the end, but even the samey stuff is pretty enjoyable. Girls of the 80's was one of my favourites on first listen. The chorus of Heroes are Forever sounds very reminiscent of Blame It On Love from New Religion.

I prefer new Religion. Th e production was better. There's not alot of variety in the sound of this one. Its good though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 24, 2014, 04:00:53 PM
I got a bit of a sameyness by the end, but even the samey stuff is pretty enjoyable. Girls of the 80's was one of my favourites on first listen. The chorus of Heroes are Forever sounds very reminiscent of Blame It On Love from New Religion.

I prefer new Religion. Th e production was better. There's not alot of variety in the sound of this one. Its good though.

Since they're both mixed by Chris Laney, I think they both sound equally good. I think I might slightly prefer the production on the new one, but I'm splitting hairs here. Sounds a tad less compressed, and a bit more audible bass. A bit less crunchy and more produced, which may be why you prefer New Religion.
I agree there's less variety on this one, but I'm still enjoying it all, which I can't say for Riot Avenue.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2014, 08:50:55 PM
Had a listen to New Religion and it's very enjoyable.  Gonna get some repeat spins.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 27, 2014, 10:19:56 AM
So Santa brought me Stryper Live At The Whiskey. What an awesome live album!!! They sound incredible. I am very impressed. It's killer.

With some Amazon $$ I ordered No More Hell To Pay.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on December 27, 2014, 10:35:32 AM
Go $75.00 of Amazon cars and my head is spinning on what to get.  Too many on the list.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on December 27, 2014, 10:46:55 AM
Go $75.00 of Amazon cars and my head is spinning on what to get.  Too many on the list.

If I may make a recommendation:
https://www.amazon.com/Dennis-DeYoung-Music-Styx-Angeles/dp/B00MJFQ382/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1419702053&sr=1-1&keywords=Dennis+deyoung

Check out the setlist. The band is TIGHT and his guitarists look just like Shaw and JY. The Shaw guy has an awesome voice and is great singing the Shaw songs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2014, 03:39:01 AM
So Santa brought me Stryper Live At The Whiskey. What an awesome live album!!! They sound incredible. I am very impressed. It's killer.

With some Amazon $$ I ordered No More Hell To Pay.

You will not be disappointed.

This weekend while I was out I picked up Against the Law and Murder By Pride.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on December 28, 2014, 04:51:19 AM
Go $75.00 of Amazon cars and my head is spinning on what to get.  Too many on the list.

If I may make a recommendation:
https://www.amazon.com/Dennis-DeYoung-Music-Styx-Angeles/dp/B00MJFQ382/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1419702053&sr=1-1&keywords=Dennis+deyoung

Check out the setlist. The band is TIGHT and his guitarists look just like Shaw and JY. The Shaw guy has an awesome voice and is great singing the Shaw songs.

There's something that rubs me wrong with DD.  How he handed himself with the STYX breakup left a sour taste in my mouth.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 31, 2014, 03:43:19 PM
I got a bit of a sameyness by the end, but even the samey stuff is pretty enjoyable. Girls of the 80's was one of my favourites on first listen. The chorus of Heroes are Forever sounds very reminiscent of Blame It On Love from New Religion.

I prefer new Religion. Th e production was better. There's not alot of variety in the sound of this one. Its good though.

Since they're both mixed by Chris Laney, I think they both sound equally good. I think I might slightly prefer the production on the new one, but I'm splitting hairs here. Sounds a tad less compressed, and a bit more audible bass. A bit less crunchy and more produced, which may be why you prefer New Religion.
I agree there's less variety on this one, but I'm still enjoying it all, which I can't say for Riot Avenue.

I'll agree with you there. RA was poor.
It's true, I do love a crunchy guitar sound.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2015, 03:36:05 AM
New TMac song.  This is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6YHJv87zRY&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Calvin6s on January 05, 2015, 02:08:42 PM
There's some pretty cool interviews with producers here

https://thedoublestop.com/

The Max Norman one was really good (Ozzy, Lynch Mob, Megadeth etc.....) especially the story of the issues with Oni Logan and how he had to use retuned and re-timed demos to complete the recording.

Looking forward to Beau Hill next.

I just found this place via the Jeff Pilson interview and I agree completely.  This Jeff Pilson interview is great and really walks down the history of Dokken in particular.  I haven't decided on the next podcast I will listen to because there are so many, but if they are half as good as this Pilson interview, this will essentially be my radio station at my desk for quite a few hours.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 05, 2015, 03:09:08 PM
New TMac song.  This is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6YHJv87zRY&feature=youtu.be

Yeah, I like that. A bit of a return to the Neo-Classical style of the 1st 2 albums. The version of Tears Of Sahara from the same shoot is great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2015, 03:28:58 PM
New TMac song.  This is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6YHJv87zRY&feature=youtu.be

Yeah, I like that. A bit of a return to the Neo-Classical style of the 1st 2 albums. The version of Tears Of Sahara from the same shoot is great.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to this new one.  Yeah, I've seen that Sahara clip as well, pretty good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2015, 04:37:38 AM
New Jorn;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Gme_E8ZWk

Sounds a bit more lively than his last few.  Hopefully the album delivers.  The instrumental section is a direct Gary Moore rip though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 12, 2015, 04:40:38 AM
I'm going to be interested to see the reaction this Dracula thing of his gets here.  I haven't heard anything but I've come across 4 or 5 reviews and the views vary from "absolute crap" to "classic".
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 12, 2015, 04:46:35 AM
Sounds like a Jorn project.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2015, 04:50:52 AM
Sounds like a Jorn project.

It is.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 12, 2015, 04:55:43 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 12, 2015, 04:59:08 AM
Sounds like a Jorn project.

It is.

You know what I mean. :lol It's Jorn being Jorn.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on January 12, 2015, 01:39:24 PM
New Jorn;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Gme_E8ZWk

Sounds a bit more lively than his last few.  Hopefully the album delivers.  The instrumental section is a direct Gary Moore rip though.

Definitely sounds a lot more interesting than anything Jorn has done for a while.
Not sure about the Gary Moore rip off though.
Sure it is a little reminiscent of Over The Hills and Far Away/Blood of Emeralds, but more of a generic Moore/Thin Lizzy Celtic vibe than anything.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2015, 01:56:48 PM
New Jorn;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Gme_E8ZWk

Sounds a bit more lively than his last few.  Hopefully the album delivers.  The instrumental section is a direct Gary Moore rip though.

Definitely sounds a lot more interesting than anything Jorn has done for a while.
Not sure about the Gary Moore rip off though.
Sure it is a little reminiscent of Over The Hills and Far Away/Blood of Emeralds, but more of a generic Moore/Thin Lizzy Celtic vibe than anything.

The section at 3:46 sounds like something Gary's done before but I can't palce it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on January 12, 2015, 02:29:34 PM
What's with that face he keeps making? :lol

I like it. I will likely get this. I'm not even a big Jorn guy.

That guitar solo gave me goosebumps. Very Gary Moore inspired.
Was actually listening to After The War last night.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2015, 03:02:48 PM
What's with that face he keeps making? :lol

I like it. I will likely get this. I'm not even a big Jorn guy.

That guitar solo gave me goosebumps. Very Gary Moore inspired.
Was actually listening to After The War last night.

I was spinning that a couple of weeks back, really good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 15, 2015, 03:29:05 PM
Jorn/Halter track is good. I've said it before but he certainly sounds better when you can't see him.  :biggrin:

It's in that tempo range he's stuck in again. Catchy though. And yes that's Gary Moore circa Wild Frontier right there. Luckily I love that Celtic sound with a heavy guitar.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2015, 04:34:17 AM
New Eclipse;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r453Xtjn6bA

Even though I loved Bleed and Scream, there's really not much doing here.  Sounds pretty much exactly the same with no variation.  I'm sure I'll dig it, but Martensson seems to be running a bit dry.  Perhaps another Toby Hitchcock album is in order?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2015, 04:35:48 AM
That's the weird thing about Martensson - his own band bores me to tears aside from a few tracks and yet he has done much better material with Hitchcock and Jamison.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2015, 04:55:14 AM
That's the weird thing about Martensson - his own band bores me to tears aside from a few tracks and yet he has done much better material with Hitchcock and Jamison.

And his other stuff is much more varied whereas Eclipse just seems so samey with more one dimensional songwriting.  Frustrating when you know the man is capable of so much more. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2015, 04:32:33 AM
So what about this one guys?...........99%  ;D

I like that number too.

https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/reviews/2015/01/23/eclipse-armageddonize-review

Wrong again. What the hell, really?  :rollin
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 23, 2015, 05:14:52 AM
Oh FFS Melodic Rock. :lolpalm: Total ass kissing review of zero value. Who can even take these reviews seriously?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2015, 10:26:30 AM
 ::) ::) ::) :facepalm:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2015, 01:38:04 PM
Oh FFS Melodic Rock. :lolpalm: Total ass kissing review of zero value. Who can even take these reviews seriously?

I use to, but it's just getting a bit much now, and is even turning me off.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on January 23, 2015, 02:04:15 PM
Russell Allen's new band/project Level 10 is pretty good. A bit generic, but a billion times better than Adrenaline Mob, although that's not hard to achieve.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 23, 2015, 02:08:05 PM
Idon't go there much these days. All the characters are gone - we can't have a heated debate as someone's feelings might be hurt if they've had a sense of humour bypass.
But hte reviews have become a joke, but they always were for Andrew's friends' bands.

And I just find Martennsson's stuff samey and lacking in variety and that magic dust. Maybe it's the characterless guitar sound. Everything is too perfect and a bit sterile.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2015, 02:08:42 PM
Russell Allen's new band/project Level 10 is pretty good. A bit generic, but a billion times better than Adrenaline Mob, although that's not hard to achieve.

Listening to that now -not as poor as I expected from the samples , but also pretty unspectacular.  It's decent enough but also the sort of stuff decent musos/writers could dial in pretty easy.   At first listen I'd rate it around 75% .

Idon't go there much these days. All the characters are gone

Ever since I relocated here the site has gone downhill fast  ;D ::) :hat
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 23, 2015, 02:11:25 PM
Russell Allen's new band/project Level 10 is pretty good. A bit generic, but a billion times better than Adrenaline Mob, although that's not hard to achieve.

Listening to that now -not as poor as I expected from the samples , but also pretty unspectacular.  It's decent enough but also the sort of stuff decent musos/writers could dial in pretty easy.   At first listen I'd rate it around 75% .

Idon't go there much these days. All the characters are gone

Ever since I relocated here the site has gone downhill fast  ;D ::) :hat

You know too much Brent. They'll feel threatened by that  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on January 23, 2015, 02:21:22 PM
Russell Allen's new band/project Level 10 is pretty good. A bit generic, but a billion times better than Adrenaline Mob, although that's not hard to achieve.

Listening to that now -not as poor as I expected from the samples , but also pretty unspectacular.  It's decent enough but also the sort of stuff decent musos/writers could dial in pretty easy.   At first listen I'd rate it around 75% .

I'd probably rate it the same. Some songs are typical Frontiers filler, but there are some great songs as well. I don't know if I like their "Bad Company cover" yet. It's a bit too blatant for sure though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2015, 03:57:23 PM
New Kiske/Sommerville album is called City of Heroes and looks to be released in May.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 04:42:45 AM
Just had a listen to the new Harem Scarem for the first time.  I'm not sure if I like it or not.  One minute I think it's good and then the next I think it's below par.  Seems simple and solid like the last Harry Hess solo album, which I really liked.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on January 27, 2015, 12:42:11 PM
Just had a listen to the new Harem Scarem for the first time.  I'm not sure if I like it or not.  One minute I think it's good and then the next I think it's below par.  Seems simple and solid like the last Harry Hess solo album, which I really liked.

That sounds like an Even Steven review to me
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2015, 02:48:53 PM
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Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2015, 04:29:30 AM
Here's some good news.  Starbreaker 3 sometime this year;

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-tnt-singer-tony-harnell-to-record-new-starbreaker-album/
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2015, 05:17:15 AM
Finally got the new Ten cd in the mail today and it's pretty spectacular.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 02, 2015, 08:27:09 AM
Peterik / Scherer - Now this sounds like my kind of thing. The only thing that bugs me is the ridiculous pitch correction on the vocals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNk4KwjC04Y
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 02, 2015, 12:51:30 PM
Peterik / Scherer - Now this sounds like my kind of thing. The only thing that bugs me is the ridiculous pitch correction on the vocals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNk4KwjC04Y

Sounds pretty good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2015, 01:17:13 PM
Sounds pretty smooth.  Hopefully it's better than the last Pride of Lions.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 05, 2015, 04:10:10 AM
Kiske/Somerville samples;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8szKlcp3VP8

Sounds like your solid Karlsson songwriting.  Out in April.  Sounding a lot heavier than the first album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 05, 2015, 04:48:57 AM
Sounded pretty generic to me.


And not my kind of generic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 05, 2015, 06:47:32 AM
Kiske/Somerville samples;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8szKlcp3VP8

Sounds like your solid Karlsson songwriting.  Out in April.  Sounding a lot heavier than the first album.
It does sound heavier, and that's a good thing. I liked the first album well enough. I do like her voice a lot, but if I'm being honest, I'm not even paying attention to this without Kiske.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on February 05, 2015, 08:37:15 AM
Haven't listened yet, but the last album seriously lacked Amanda. Hopefully this one is more balanced.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 05, 2015, 12:58:28 PM
Kiske/Somerville samples;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8szKlcp3VP8

Sounds like your solid Karlsson songwriting.  Out in April.  Sounding a lot heavier than the first album.
It does sound heavier, and that's a good thing. I liked the first album well enough. I do like her voice a lot, but if I'm being honest, I'm not even paying attention to this without Kiske.

I think that's for most to be honest.

Haven't listened yet, but the last album seriously lacked Amanda. Hopefully this one is more balanced.

Samples give off a much more balanced approach.  I never noticed how much each sang on the first album.  Seemed balanced enough to me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2015, 04:13:49 AM
New Revolution Saints video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_-oy6dRJt8

This is sounding like a pretty solid effort.  Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 06, 2015, 04:42:48 AM
None of the songs they've released has grabbed me so far, but I'll definitely be checking out the full album. I like these musicians, and I like the style.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2015, 04:58:38 PM
None of the songs they've released has grabbed me so far, but I'll definitely be checking out the full album. I like these musicians, and I like the style.

I thought the same with the first two songs, but I really like this one.  Best one they have released so far for sure. I have it on pre order.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 06, 2015, 09:02:57 PM
None of the songs they've released has grabbed me so far, but I'll definitely be checking out the full album. I like these musicians, and I like the style.

I thought the same with the first two songs, but I really like this one.  Best one they have released so far for sure. I have it on pre order.

I agree this is by far the best of the bunch. I'll probably warm to it after a few more listens.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2015, 03:48:31 AM
Deen's vocals are out of this world on this song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2015, 03:40:26 PM
New Revolution Saints video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_-oy6dRJt8

This is sounding like a pretty solid effort.  Looking forward to it.

I'm friggin' loving this song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 09, 2015, 05:14:59 PM
So I've read some of you pimping Europe from time to time. Now I have not heard a single Europe song since their first album. Other than their great cover of Love To Love, of course. Anyway, new album. Cool name. New video!
https://bravewords.com/news/swedish-rock-legends-europe-premier-war-of-kings-music-video

Man does this song SUCK!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 09, 2015, 05:20:13 PM
I actually think its pretty good.  Better then I would have expected
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 09, 2015, 05:25:48 PM
 
  Now I have not heard a single Europe song since their first album. 

Introducing TAC..............the only man on the planet to have never heard The Final Countdown  :lol

I pretty much agree about the new stuff though.  I doubt there's been too many of us pimping modern day Europe - I haven't bought a Europe album since the early 90's.   I just don't like the retro style they're attempting and I don't think it suits Tempest's voice either.   He may wish to sing other stuff but his voice best suits melodic rock/metal.  And Norum......... :facepalm:    He put out a shredding album with Face The Truth and I've barely liked a thing he has done since in or out of Europe.......really lost what made him great.

As far as Europe stuff that you'd like Tim........a track here and there off TFC, Out OF This World and Prisoners In Paradise but I'd have a listen to Wings of Tomorrow.  You may well like it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 09, 2015, 05:27:52 PM
Will check this out later.  I wasn't a fan of the last one at all, but I do like the most of their later stuff.  Secret Society was a killer album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 09, 2015, 05:35:23 PM
  Now I have not heard a single Europe song since their first album. 

Introducing TAC..............the only man on the planet to have never heard The Final Countdown  :lol
The Final Countdown wasn't their first album?
I thought it was. I had it back in the day. But that's the only album I had from them.

Let me rephrase:

Now I have not heard a single Europe song since The Final Countdown.
;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 09, 2015, 05:42:24 PM
OK then...............in that case you may like their first two (TFC was their third).  They were more a metal/heavy rock band (mostly sans keyboard) prior to The Final Countdown which I suppose is their "sell out" album.   I think both of the first two got mentions in my Best Of lists.

So you have the self titled debut '83 , Wings of Tomorrow '84 and then The Final Countdown '86.

Here's a sample from Wings of Tomorrow which is heavy enough for 1984.

Wasted Time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrwfKZX0f6g
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 09, 2015, 05:45:32 PM
You know what, thinking back, I believe I was aware that they had earlier albums. Seriously though, these 30 minutes is the most attention I've given to Europe in over 25 years! :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 09, 2015, 06:45:24 PM
The only album I have from them is Wings of Tommorow and its a good one
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 09, 2015, 09:27:59 PM
So I've read some of you pimping Europe from time to time. Now I have not heard a single Europe song since their first album. Other than their great cover of Love To Love, of course. Anyway, new album. Cool name. New video!
https://bravewords.com/news/swedish-rock-legends-europe-premier-war-of-kings-music-video

Man does this song SUCK!

It sounds like a cover of a Deep Purple B-side. My opinion on this is no different to any of their other albums of the 2000s. Not at all interested.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 10, 2015, 05:06:22 AM
That Europe song wasn't too bad IMO.  I'll check the album out.  It's definitely nothing special though.  Norum's solo was pretty tasty.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2015, 04:21:51 AM
I keep coming back to Albion quite a bit.  It's a really well done record.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 12, 2015, 12:04:21 PM
Nelson have finished recording a new album! I'm so excited. Lightning Strikes Twice is still one of the strongest melodic rock albums I own, and I was worried there would be no more from them. This is now perhaps my most anticipated release of the year.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2015, 02:52:54 PM
I only own one of their big album they did in the 80's, I don't even remember the name, the one with their big hit on it I think.  I should get that cd out.  I looked at the last album but never checked it out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 12, 2015, 03:05:35 PM
Are you guys joking around about Nelson?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2015, 03:33:40 PM
Are you guys joking around about Nelson?

He released (and smoked) some really cool shit man

(https://cannabisni.com/images/stories/willie_nelson%20marijuana.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2015, 03:37:34 PM
Nelson have finished recording a new album! I'm so excited. Lightning Strikes Twice is still one of the strongest melodic rock albums I own, and I was worried there would be no more from them. This is now perhaps my most anticipated release of the year.

I love that album. That and After The Rain.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2015, 03:38:02 PM
Are you guys joking around about Nelson?

I didn't mind the album I got, but I can't remember a thing about it.  It was decent enough but I never checked out anything else.  I might put it on now and hate it, dunno.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2015, 03:38:36 PM
Nelson have finished recording a new album! I'm so excited. Lightning Strikes Twice is still one of the strongest melodic rock albums I own, and I was worried there would be no more from them. This is now perhaps my most anticipated release of the year.

I love that album. That and After The Rain.

Yeah, that's the one I got.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2015, 03:43:47 PM
That's the only one I have too - good for what it is but probably a bit "poppy" for me these days.  Some surprisingly decent guitar work on it though if memory serves correct.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2015, 03:44:24 PM
That's the only one I have too - good for what it is but probably a bit "poppy" for me these days.  Some surprisingly decent guitar work on it though if memory serves correct.

Brett Garsed?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2015, 03:46:54 PM
Yup.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2015, 03:49:50 PM
He's so underrated.  Big Sky has some amazing stuff on it.  I love just watching him play too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2015, 04:45:40 PM
Looks like a new Whitesnake single will be released on the 25th Feb.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2015, 04:53:40 PM
That seemed very quick.  Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 12, 2015, 05:33:06 PM
Did anyone get that older live Whitesnake album that was released a couple months back?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2015, 05:39:28 PM
Did anyone get that older live Whitesnake album that was released a couple months back?

Bro, it's sitting at home but I haven't checked it out yet.   :lol  I got like 3 months of new releases at once and am working my way through.  I'll have to crack it open and let you know.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 12, 2015, 05:42:38 PM
You are the only person who could likely need a secretary and a spread sheet in order to go through your cd collection. Just don't give the secretary a raise like George did
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2015, 05:51:46 PM
You are the only person who could likely need a secretary and a spread sheet in order to go through your cd collection. Just don't give the secretary a raise like George did

 :lol  Yeah, that would be something I'd do too.

Bro, I know I suck at this lately, my organization skills have gone out the window.  Just mainly been going through Ten, Sweet/Lynch, Harem Scarem, Level 10, UDO, Crazy Lixx, most which have been really strong so I've been wanting to stay with them.

I still got stuff from even last year to crack open like, Nightingale, Nigel Bailey, Rated X and Periphery from a couple of weeks back and the new Jorn which should arrive soon.  Serious Black should arrive soon also, so I just can't keep up.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on February 12, 2015, 05:54:20 PM
Did anyone get that older live Whitesnake album that was released a couple months back?

I have it. It's a spotty release.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 12, 2015, 06:46:49 PM
Nelson have finished recording a new album! I'm so excited. Lightning Strikes Twice is still one of the strongest melodic rock albums I own, and I was worried there would be no more from them. This is now perhaps my most anticipated release of the year.

I love that album. That and After The Rain.

Both great albums. I've tried some of their others, but they're completely different and I didn't like them at all.

I'm curious for the new Whitesnake single. The last two albums were very good, but Aldrich was a huge part of those. Hopefully Coverdale can sustain the quality without him.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2015, 01:32:00 PM
Good to Be Bad was a decent enough record, but didn't excite me like Forevermore did.  The pair plus Reb had a good thing going on that one, with a lot of great songs.  Hopefully the quality can remain that high.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 14, 2015, 12:27:38 AM
Good to be Bad had plenty of great songs too, but it started off with some of the weaker tracks, and the more metal production didn't serve the songs as well as Forevermore's.
I also didn't mind a couple of the songs they did prior to that on the live album. Not as good as either album, but you could hear how they developed their sound as a band. I hope that progression doesn't go backwards without Aldrich.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2015, 03:16:03 AM
I totally forgot about those tracks from the live album, they were pretty damn good actually.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2015, 04:01:25 AM
Finally listening to my copy of Rated X.  Nothing outstanding, and pretty much what I expected, but quite smooth and pretty solid.  Guitarist is good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 15, 2015, 10:37:21 AM
Finally listening to my copy of Rated X.  Nothing outstanding, and pretty much what I expected, but quite smooth and pretty solid.  Guitarist is good.

I heard one of their tracks. Nothing spectacular, but solid
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: dedSurroun on February 15, 2015, 12:42:31 PM
Work of Art released a new album a few months back, Framework.

Wow.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2015, 04:06:04 AM
Work of Art released a new album a few months back, Framework.

Wow.

Not many WOA fans around here, but I'm one of the few.  I don't think Framework comes close to either of the other two, but it's something I listen to from time to time and is consistent and solid to what the band delivers.


Finally listening to my copy of Rated X.  Nothing outstanding, and pretty much what I expected, but quite smooth and pretty solid.  Guitarist is good.

I heard one of their tracks. Nothing spectacular, but solid

PRetty much the same for all the tracks.  Had a few spins, very Rainbow in places.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2015, 04:48:05 AM
The live 84 Whitesnake CD is shit, haven't checked the DVD yet.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 16, 2015, 04:54:43 AM
The video quality didn't look great from the short Youtube preview I saw.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2015, 04:56:27 AM
Great, looks like a waste of 20 bucks.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2015, 07:28:18 AM
The live 84 Whitesnake CD is shit, haven't checked the DVD yet.

Poor sound or poor performance?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Big Hath on February 16, 2015, 09:53:49 AM
Work of Art released a new album a few months back, Framework.

Wow.

Not many WOA fans around here, but I'm one of the few.  I don't think Framework comes close to either of the other two, but it's something I listen to from time to time and is consistent and solid to what the band delivers.

I concur.  Framework isn't quite as memorable as In Progress, which is the only other WOA album I own, but it is enjoyable.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2015, 02:07:41 PM
The live 84 Whitesnake CD is shit, haven't checked the DVD yet.

Poor sound or poor performance?

The sound is horrible, you'd probably find better bootlegs really.  The performance isn't bad but could be better too.  Gotta listen to the whole thing, but I wouldn't bother with it.  The video isn't that bad but doesn't really make it worth it, and I fell asleep during the second song.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2015, 02:08:42 PM
Work of Art released a new album a few months back, Framework.

Wow.

Not many WOA fans around here, but I'm one of the few.  I don't think Framework comes close to either of the other two, but it's something I listen to from time to time and is consistent and solid to what the band delivers.

I concur.  Framework isn't quite as memorable as In Progress, which is the only other WOA album I own, but it is enjoyable.

The first album is worth a listen too.  It's quite a bit more AOR and lighter than In Progress but has some great tunes.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 16, 2015, 02:11:47 PM
My favourite track of theirs by some way is the first track on the first album............love it.  From there it was all downhill for me though (with the odd exception)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2015, 02:24:08 PM
They pretty much all sound like Why Do I though really Brent.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 16, 2015, 02:26:20 PM
Exactly........just not quite as good and that gets old very quick.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2015, 02:43:32 PM
Even though I love WOA, it's funny as the songs Robert Sall writes for others have more variety in them, much like Erik Martenssen's situation.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2015, 05:40:39 PM
Revolution Saints.................just got through my first listen.   I think most of the guys who spend time in this thread will enjoy it.    It's very much Journey flavoured so if that bothers you , then don't waste your $$$.   There are guest spots by Schon and Pineda that just reinforce that.

I'm a little surprised by the back seat that Jack Blades took in this - I thought he might have taken a vocal or two but there are no complaints on that front.  Deen does a stellar job as does Doug on guitar - in fact he saved a song or two for me with a nice solo. 

As is almost always the case of late my rating would be higher without a couple of tracks that don't need to be there.  My version has 12 + 3 bonus (just alternate versions).   The albums starts very strong , has a bit of a lull in the middle and then finishes strong . 

 I can see why some might say it's just another project band, heard it all before etc........ and I'm of that mindset myself with a lot of recent releases.  There are moments on this album (the two main suspects were written by Erik Martensson  :lol  ) where I got that feeling but there's enough songs that have that extra bit of quality and originality that get it above that level for me.    I really don't see why they had to cover a bloody Eclipse song for this either when they have songwriters like Blades on board - it just makes it seem half assed, but anyway....... ::)

To some extent we've heard it all before but this is a cut above most releases of its kind. Personally I think you melodic rockers are pretty safe with this one.

Rating: 84%
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2015, 06:46:27 PM
I'm looking forward to it, but I didn't realise like other Frontiers projects that outside writers are used. 

Just checked the track list and saw the Eclipse song.  While it certainly is necessary, that is one of their better songs.

Also Brent, are the bonus tracks worth it.  I pre ordered the standard version but thinking of upgrading to the extra tracks and DVD.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 17, 2015, 07:04:40 PM
If you want the deluxe I'd do it for the DVD (which I haven't seen) rather than the bonus tracks.  They're just variations on the tracks that had guests.

- 2 versions of the song Pineda guested on..........one all Deen and one all Arnel
- a version of the song Schon guested on with Doug instead.

You're not missing out on new tracks or anything if you buy the regular version
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 17, 2015, 07:14:20 PM
Might not bother then.  I'm not a big Arnel fan anyway.  I can always get the tracks online.  And the DVD would only be worth it for the making of, but knowing Frontiers, will be 20 minutes of the members saying how great the project is and how they love working with this new band and blah blah blah.  They are never anything interesting regarding an actual making of the album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2015, 05:12:49 AM
Kiske/Somerville - City of Heroes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqdzL1ThVbM

What do we think?  I know I'm a Karlsson fanboy, but I think it's quite strong.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on March 03, 2015, 05:19:45 AM
I think it's alright, but I didn't really like the chorus. The guitar solo was the best part for me. I sure hope there are better songs on the album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on March 03, 2015, 05:28:42 AM
Something I'll definitely check out when it's available.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2015, 05:34:09 AM
Kiske/Somerville - City of Heroes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqdzL1ThVbM

What do we think?  I know I'm a Karlsson fanboy, but I think it's quite strong.

I think it's very solid -nothing special but encouraging.  I haven't seen too many chicks on drums hit like that either.

I think it's alright, but I didn't really like the chorus. The guitar solo was the best part for me. I sure hope there are better songs on the album.

I agree about the chorus . I think it was a mistake to have them doubling up on that - doesn't sound quite right to me and I think that might be the reason.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 03, 2015, 06:46:35 AM
I still really need to get the Revolution Saints album.

I got the Europe and Toto albums today. The Europe one sounds like the same crap they've been putting out for the past decade or so.
Currently on my first proper listen of the Toto album, but very promising so far. I was hoping for a few heavier moments, but I'm still enjoying the style a lot.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 03, 2015, 02:50:19 PM
The first I see is Blob mentioning Europe, my faith is restored!  :angel:

Ok you called them crap, don't care though. You acknowledge their presence, which is enough.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2015, 03:57:34 PM
Kiske/Somerville - City of Heroes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqdzL1ThVbM

What do we think?  I know I'm a Karlsson fanboy, but I think it's quite strong.

I think it's very solid -nothing special but encouraging.  I haven't seen too many chicks on drums hit like that either.

I think it's alright, but I didn't really like the chorus. The guitar solo was the best part for me. I sure hope there are better songs on the album.

I agree about the chorus . I think it was a mistake to have them doubling up on that - doesn't sound quite right to me and I think that might be the reason.

This was one of the things on the first album that I thought could have been done better.  On the first album, their doubling up wasn't even in sync with half the time one was finishing a line before the other, and it sounded sloppy.  It seems better here, but yeah they could have inter played the vocals better eg. Allen/Lande. (the Karlsson ones obviously)

I still think this is very good and should be a worthy album.  Love the drummer.

EDIT:  had another listen and I was wrong, they've done the same thing, the unison singing between the two is sloppy like the first album IMO.  I guess they meant to do it like that, but when one stops before the other, it kind of sounds like a mistake.

Karlsson on fire once again though in the solo.  I'm really mainly looking forward to this to have another album filled with his guitar playing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2015, 04:07:39 PM
I have the new Europe but won't get around to it for a while...........I expect to have the same reaction as Blob to be honest.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 03, 2015, 05:46:05 PM
I have the new Europe but won't get around to it for a while...........I expect to have the same reaction as Blob to be honest.
Then why get it?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2015, 05:49:49 PM
Loaner  ;)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 03, 2015, 06:04:35 PM
I like that Kiske/Somerville song a LOT!

Is that Rikki Rocket on drums? ;D

And I'm just looking forward to this to have another album full of Kiske's singing!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2015, 04:51:43 AM
I like that Kiske/Somerville song a LOT!

Is that Rikki Rocket on drums? ;D

And I'm just looking forward to this to have another album full of Kiske's singing!

That's always a good thing.  I keep playing this song a bit too, really solid.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 04, 2015, 06:22:45 AM
So how did you go with the new Toto Mr. Blob??    I have just got through my first listen and I'm disappointed.   I feel like a bit of a Scrooge when it comes to new releases at the moment - I'm getting in all this stuff that is being salivated over far and wide and being underwhelmed by most of it.

I've always been a Toto fan - they generally have a bit of filler but at their best  :hefdaddy     

In the end I think my favourite track is the first that I heard (Holy War) - I was hoping that was one of the mid range tracks and that I' be blown away by the deeper cuts.  It's certainly no cookie cutter Frontiers job and I wouldn't expect anything less from these guys .  It's undoubtedly quality stuff but there's just some magic missing from the songs - there's moments of it but no one song blows me away. (like say Caught In The Balance on MIndfields)

I'll reserve judgement on the production until I play it on a better system ,but I played it on my PC speakers straight after UFO (which sounded great) and I found that during the quieter moments it was crystal clear but when the music really kicked in it became quite distorted.  Perhaps I have a dodgy disc.

Anyway........I really have a hard time explaining all the 100% reviews about for this (and not just the usual suspect). For me it's about a 75% and nowhere near my favourite of theirs. 

I'll be interested to see what others think.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 04, 2015, 06:31:49 AM
I'm quite enjoying the first half of the disc so far, with Holy War and Running Out of Time being my early favourites. The second half of the disc seems to blur together as soft saminess for me right now.

I was hoping for a bit more rockier stuff, but I'm still enjoying the style of this one. Classic Toto, with the jazzy pop influences, big harmonies, and nice synth sections and solos. Still too early for me to make a final judgement on how I feel about it as an album. I'm not disappointed by it at all, but I'm not blown away by it yet either.

For production, you're spot on. The production is great on the softer sections, but it gets a bit distorted on the louder sections. I don't think the album is overcompressed, I think it's just clipped off too harshly. It still sounds a lot better than most modern albums in the genre, but there's some room for improvement.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 06, 2015, 03:21:55 AM
This is nothing special (and nothing we haven't heard before) but if anyone wants a new release which has a nice mix of melodic rock, sleaze, pub rock and even Southern rock then this album might be worth a listen. It's hard to pigeon hole as they're a bit all over the place (in good and bad ways) but at their heaviest they have elements of bands like Crazy Lixx.

The album's called Rise OF The Electric Jester and it's by a band called Knock Out Kaine.   I rate it 78% and so it won't be on regular rotation but it deserves more publicity than it's getting (none).  See what you think.

Knock Out Kaine - 16 Grams Of Heart Attack    https://youtu.be/LIhUZf8dgn0
                         - Flying Blind https://youtu.be/QXRH55WTxgY

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 07, 2015, 10:23:54 AM
I quite like the new Europe. Ok, its not up there with anything from the first half of their career but it was enjoyable enough. I especially liked this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u12ZfBmNymc 

I gave Bag Of Bones a go too and really liked that. Never gave it much of a go the first time round as I wasn't into the new direction post reunion. I like the blues though, and the eastern vibe at times too.

Quite like that Knock Out Kane (was going to do the initials but thought better of it  :blush)

The new UFO was ok but no more than that. Definitely prefer the Red Zone Rider album Vinnie did last year. PLayed that again this morning.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2015, 04:33:37 AM
I still gotta listen to that Red Zone Rider cd.

I didn't give Bag of Bones a good go either.  I'll get the cd out, but what I've heard from the new one is decent.

Been listening to new Eclipse and Revolution Saints.  Both quite enjoyable.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 08, 2015, 01:33:11 PM
I still gotta listen to that Red Zone Rider cd.

I didn't give Bag of Bones a good go either.  I'll get the cd out, but what I've heard from the new one is decent.

Been listening to new Eclipse and Revolution Saints.  Both quite enjoyable.

The Eclipse is pretty flawless, the Rev Saints is ok but forgetable.

I know you're not into the blues Kade so not sure you'll love the Red Zone Rider. It's quite Zep-py.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2015, 05:49:01 AM
Cain's Offering samples

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VXRAyP7kro

Damn, sounding good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 13, 2015, 05:56:50 PM
Cain's Offering samples

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VXRAyP7kro

Damn, sounding good.

Played the 1st one tonight - great album. Should be good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2015, 03:54:37 PM
Holy shit!  Karlsson got JLT on Freefall 2.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 17, 2015, 05:21:36 PM
Holy shit!  Karlsson got JLT on Freefall 2.

Any updates when this will be released?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 18, 2015, 05:43:17 AM
Holy shit!  Karlsson got JLT on Freefall 2.

Any updates when this will be released?

Nah, I just keep looking at his facebook but no official news yet. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 18, 2015, 06:41:55 AM
I can't link it, but the new Europe got an 8.5 on Bravewords. Hmm..
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 22, 2015, 04:54:53 AM
Solid score.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 22, 2015, 05:11:09 AM
I was away and couldn't get there but my sister reports that Billy Idol and Steve Stevens tore it up last night and blew Cheap Trick off the stage.  Apparently quite a hard rocking gig with several extended guitar solos etc......
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 22, 2015, 05:42:03 AM
Billy Idol is still cool, even though a lot of his music sucks.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 22, 2015, 09:10:27 AM
He has a handful of songs that I like.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 23, 2015, 04:28:52 PM
I never bothered much with The Darkness but this newie ain't bad at all with it's Cult vibe. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd3oJS_gzTk&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 24, 2015, 03:07:55 AM
I never bothered much with The Darkness but this newie ain't bad at all with it's Cult vibe. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd3oJS_gzTk&feature=youtu.be

Meh
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2015, 05:38:07 AM
I never bothered much with The Darkness but this newie ain't bad at all with it's Cult vibe. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd3oJS_gzTk&feature=youtu.be

Meh

I thought this too.  It was alright, but nothing I'd get into.  I didn't mind that 80's Cult vibe either Brent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 24, 2015, 05:39:04 AM
I agree.........nothing I'll be buying but clearly a step up from the shite that I expect from them and I found it a decent listen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2015, 06:07:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zOl3kg2lAE

Another Kiske/Sommerville song.  Karlsson by numbers really, but a decent song for a single I guess.  Some Karlsson shred is always welcome though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on March 24, 2015, 06:39:30 AM
The whole album is Karlsson by numbers, I think, though I'm not largely familiar with the guy yet. I quite liked it actually. I only gave it two spins so far though, was busy with the roulette and other stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2015, 04:05:36 PM
The whole album is Karlsson by numbers, I think, though I'm not largely familiar with the guy yet. I quite liked it actually. I only gave it two spins so far though, was busy with the roulette and other stuff.

I'm guessing you're just assuming?

Saying that, I think you are going to be right.  I believe he put a lot of his work into Primal Fear last year and all his current top ideas, probably are going into Freefall 2.  Even though this song is pure pop, after one listen it's annoyingly stuck in my head, it's not bad and I'm sure there will be slightly heavier moments on the album like the other song.

The only thing about Magnus IMO is that his guitar playing has suffered slightly over the years with the amount of projects.  His leads are still better than most out there but you can tell he doesn't put as much thought in them like he did in the past.  Check out Last Tribe, so many creative and amazing solos on those albums.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on March 24, 2015, 10:29:04 PM
The whole album is Karlsson by numbers, I think, though I'm not largely familiar with the guy yet. I quite liked it actually. I only gave it two spins so far though, was busy with the roulette and other stuff.

I'm guessing you're just assuming?

Saying that, I think you are going to be right.  I believe he put a lot of his work into Primal Fear last year and all his current top ideas, probably are going into Freefall 2.  Even though this song is pure pop, after one listen it's annoyingly stuck in my head, it's not bad and I'm sure there will be slightly heavier moments on the album like the other song.

The only thing about Magnus IMO is that his guitar playing has suffered slightly over the years with the amount of projects.  His leads are still better than most out there but you can tell he doesn't put as much thought in them like he did in the past.  Check out Last Tribe, so many creative and amazing solos on those albums.

No, I've heard the whole thing, got a promo a week ago or something like that.

I'll definitely check Last Tribe out since you've sent them in my roulette, they're pretty high on my check out list.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 25, 2015, 05:42:50 AM
Wow, that's early.  Any other thoughts on it?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 25, 2015, 08:09:33 AM
New Peterik & Scherer song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QBdhQ8uFVs

Yup, that's my kind of stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 25, 2015, 08:19:13 AM
Pretty classic Survivor style there .  I'm not sure that this guy sounds different enough to Toby to make it worth the change in singing partner (possibly a touch weaker than Toby).   I think I'd actually prefer a more gritty vocal like Jamison (RIP) on something like this anyway , but I'll be keeping an eye on this all the same.  The few people I know who've heard the whole album say it's really good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 25, 2015, 08:25:05 AM
I usually prefer a grittier voice too, but I like this guy anyway. I like this slightly heavier Survivor style of melodic rock, and if this is indicative of the album, I'll enjoy it a lot.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 25, 2015, 11:07:09 AM
New samples for the upcoming Nelson album "Peace Out". I loved Lighting Strikes Twice, and these samples sound very promising so far, a bit of a progression in style but not too different, with even nicer production. Very excited for this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_d0YTF5fro
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on March 25, 2015, 11:10:40 AM
New samples for the upcoming Nelson album "Peace Out". I loved Lighting Strikes Twice, and these samples sound very promising so far, a bit of a progression in style but not too different, with even nicer production. Very excited for this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_d0YTF5fro

Wow!  I like the rawness of the tunes.  Very cool.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on March 25, 2015, 12:36:16 PM
Wow, that's early.  Any other thoughts on it?

Yeah, quite early, and the funny thing I don't even have to review it, some other author claimed it earlier. :lol

So yeah, other thoughts, here we go. I think the songs can be grouped in basically three categories: alright / better than alright; good but pretty cheesy; awesome. The former is a pretty large category, I think I would put more than half of the song from the album here, and their biggest problem is they are all very similar in vibe and structure to title track. Well, of course there are some differences, but I think Open Your Eyes, Last Goodbye, Run With a Dream, and maybe Lights Out are all kind of the same thing repeated over and over, in my opinion. It does make a rocking album though. Also, Walk on Water, After the Night is Over and Right Now are also in the alright category for me.

Good but pretty cheesy, that's more interesting. This one includes Salvation, which is pretty good song but when the chorus hits and the lyrics go "Salvation! I can't resist your temptation!" I just want to do a facepalm or two; and also Breaking Neptune, which is basically an enhanced version of Walk on Water, but more likable.

Awesome category has only two songs in my book, but they just do up my enjoyment from the album a fair notch. First is Rising Up (like a phoenix from the flame, no less), great fast rocking track with nice keyboard arrangements and overall just amazing (City of Heroes and other heavier tunes pale in comparison), and I also love Amanda's voice on this one. The second awesome song is Ocean of Tears, but I'm just a general fan of ballads, so don't get your hopes up. This song is really unique here though, the only true ballad on the album, with something that sounds like a violin and cello, clear soulful voices of Amanda and Michael, well I just love this song. It's cheesy and sugary, yes, just as I like my hard rock ballads. :lol

I can also say Amanda's and Michael's voices are distributed pretty evenly on the album, maybe even 50 / 50, mostly because of the songs' usual structure. Often it goes like verse that consists of two parts, sung by each vocalist, then the chorus where they're singing together, another two-part verse, chorus, guitar solo, another chorus, the standard structure, you get it. Therefore it's quite easy to get an even distribution. Some songs aren't like that though, for example in Rising Up chorus I can only hear Amanda, and even if Kiske is singing, I can't hear him, I have a feeling he's singing only "rising up" line, and not the rest, and the song really benefits from the clean chorus.

Even though I've said a lot of songs are just alright, the album is really enjoyable. I usually don't pay a lot of attention if some songs are similar to each other as long as I like them, so I liked this album. Not enough to buy it, perhaps, but still, good stuff.

I hope that's answers your question about other thoughts, but if you got anything else to ask about the album, fire away, I guess. ;)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 25, 2015, 04:36:16 PM
New samples for the upcoming Nelson album "Peace Out". I loved Lighting Strikes Twice, and these samples sound very promising so far, a bit of a progression in style but not too different, with even nicer production. Very excited for this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_d0YTF5fro

Sounds like Trixter style in parts - very formulaic but it's clearly a quality sounding release.   I have Lightning Strikes Twice but it's one of many, many albums I hoarded and never gave a proper listen.  ::)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 25, 2015, 04:42:18 PM
Wow, that's horrible.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 25, 2015, 04:43:52 PM
 :rollin

I saw TAC at the top of the thread and I thought to myself.........."Wait for it............." and right on the money  :lol

I certainly won't be buying the new Nelson - I have way too much similar (and better) stuff but , having said that , it's clearly a good production and there's a damn side worse out there from Frontiers etc....

My tastes are also getting a bit heavier as a rule.

I prefer the sound of the Peterik/Scherer to this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 25, 2015, 04:48:51 PM
:rollin

I saw TAC at the top of the thread and I thought to myself.........."Wait for it............." and right on the money  :lol
:lol
 :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 25, 2015, 11:53:59 PM
New samples for the upcoming Nelson album "Peace Out". I loved Lighting Strikes Twice, and these samples sound very promising so far, a bit of a progression in style but not too different, with even nicer production. Very excited for this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_d0YTF5fro

Sounds like Trixter style in parts - very formulaic but it's clearly a quality sounding release.   I have Lightning Strikes Twice but it's one of many, many albums I hoarded and never gave a proper listen.  ::)

Not sure if it would be your thing given the style, but it's an incredibly consistent and well written album. The first time I listened to it, I thought to myself "I don't like this style at all, but these songs are so good I bet I'm going to love it on second listen". And I did. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 26, 2015, 04:30:15 AM
Wow, that's early.  Any other thoughts on it?

I haven't heard it but reviews are beginning to surface and they're mostly 9's and 10's.  Evermind is just a hard marker   :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on March 26, 2015, 05:26:29 AM
Wow, that's early.  Any other thoughts on it?

I haven't heard it but reviews are beginning to surface and they're mostly 9's and 10's.  Evermind is just a hard marker   :lol

Maybe all reviewers are huge Karlsson fans like Kade. ;)

I would say it's 7 - 7.5. Title track is a good representation of the album in that regard.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 26, 2015, 05:35:20 AM
Wow, that's early.  Any other thoughts on it?

I haven't heard it but reviews are beginning to surface and they're mostly 9's and 10's.  Evermind is just a hard marker   :lol

Maybe all reviewers are huge Karlsson fans like Kade. ;)

I would say it's 7 - 7.5. Title track is a good representation of the album in that regard.

haha.  Good honest thoughts Ruslan, and to be honest from what I have heard, your thoughts are pretty much what I expected.  Seems like these songs Karlsson can pump out in his sleep, which are still good.  Looking forward to it of course.


New Peterik & Scherer song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QBdhQ8uFVs

Yup, that's my kind of stuff.

It's alright.  Seems to lack energy though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 26, 2015, 06:53:35 AM
New Peterik & Scherer song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QBdhQ8uFVs

Yup, that's my kind of stuff.

It's alright.  Seems to lack energy though.

ie. it's not generic melodic metal? :lol :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on March 26, 2015, 06:57:36 AM
The lack of energy has to be from the production *Wink wink, cough, cough, DT Cough, cough*
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 26, 2015, 06:58:24 AM
Oh get out, you. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on March 26, 2015, 07:07:09 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 26, 2015, 08:06:35 PM
It's getting harder and harder to find decent melodic rock outside of the recognised names we've been talking about - it's out there but damn hard to find.   Websites like mr.com that used to be a goldmine of obscure stuff now only reviews the obvious names and so on............

Anyway - although it's nothing groundbreaking I think I have an obscure one I can recommend you guys check out.  It's something you might need to be in the mood for - it's sorta party melodic hard rock/glam/sleaze/whatever -  let's say Steel Panther dropped the X rated stuff , got Robert Mason in on vocals.........add a touch of Danger Danger/Crazy Lixx , a few whoooahs and if that appeals , then check it out.  Another disc it reminded me of is Marcello/Vestry if anyone knows that.

The band is called Hell In The Club and the album is Devil On My Shoulder.   Like most albums it has its fillers - I rated it 84%.

Samples:

Bare Hands  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmPKVcSkYE
Whore Paint https://youtu.be/s9gJhtjwjJc
Night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE6DYwPjyBI
Muse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHALorvrT9E
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 27, 2015, 07:04:31 AM
New Peterik & Scherer song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QBdhQ8uFVs

Yup, that's my kind of stuff.

It's alright.  Seems to lack energy though.

ie. it's not generic melodic metal? :lol :biggrin:

I saw that coming a mile away.  :lol

Dunno, the samples sounded good but that song just sounded a bit weak.  Will check it out though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 28, 2015, 06:24:49 AM
As we expected Ten had another album in the can and will have another new release within 2 months.  The pirate theme could work really well with Gary Hughes' writing style.

I know it's hard to believe but the cover will be even worse than the last one  ::)  Now that's just fucking awful - whoever put their signature at the bottom should reconsider :lol


(https://www.rocktopia.co.uk/images/news_photos/News2015/Ten_Isla-de-Muerta_Rocktopia-Records.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 28, 2015, 07:54:00 AM
It's getting harder and harder to find decent melodic rock outside of the recognised names we've been talking about - it's out there but damn hard to find.   Websites like mr.com that used to be a goldmine of obscure stuff now only reviews the obvious names and so on............

Anyway - although it's nothing groundbreaking I think I have an obscure one I can recommend you guys check out.  It's something you might need to be in the mood for - it's sorta party melodic hard rock/glam/sleaze/whatever -  let's say Steel Panther dropped the X rated stuff , got Robert Mason in on vocals.........add a touch of Danger Danger/Crazy Lixx , a few whoooahs and if that appeals , then check it out.  Another disc it reminded me of is Marcello/Vestry if anyone knows that.

The band is called Hell In The Club and the album is Devil On My Shoulder.   Like most albums it has its fillers - I rated it 84%.

Samples:

Bare Hands  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmPKVcSkYE
Whore Paint https://youtu.be/s9gJhtjwjJc
Night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE6DYwPjyBI
Muse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHALorvrT9E

Well I know the Marcello Vestry - liked it alot. I've got the first Hell In Yhe Club album. It was ok - nothing to really draw me to it but it was ok.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 28, 2015, 08:26:22 AM
The new one is a lot better than the debut IMO.   
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2015, 01:57:07 AM
It's getting harder and harder to find decent melodic rock outside of the recognised names we've been talking about - it's out there but damn hard to find.   Websites like mr.com that used to be a goldmine of obscure stuff now only reviews the obvious names and so on............

Anyway - although it's nothing groundbreaking I think I have an obscure one I can recommend you guys check out.  It's something you might need to be in the mood for - it's sorta party melodic hard rock/glam/sleaze/whatever -  let's say Steel Panther dropped the X rated stuff , got Robert Mason in on vocals.........add a touch of Danger Danger/Crazy Lixx , a few whoooahs and if that appeals , then check it out.  Another disc it reminded me of is Marcello/Vestry if anyone knows that.

The band is called Hell In The Club and the album is Devil On My Shoulder.   Like most albums it has its fillers - I rated it 84%.

Samples:

Bare Hands  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmPKVcSkYE
Whore Paint https://youtu.be/s9gJhtjwjJc
Night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE6DYwPjyBI
Muse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHALorvrT9E

Well I know the Marcello Vestry - liked it alot. I've got the first Hell In Yhe Club album. It was ok - nothing to really draw me to it but it was ok.

Will check these out a little later, I really like that Marcello/Vestry disc too.


Holy shit @ Ten.  Didn't know they had more music for us, very excited.  Cover is on par with the last one but needs more cleavage haha.  Albion was really good and I still spin it a bit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 29, 2015, 04:49:57 AM
I agree cleavage would improve that album cover drastically
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 29, 2015, 12:42:07 PM
I agree cleavage would improve that album cover drastically

I would just the way she is  :heart
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 31, 2015, 05:41:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zOl3kg2lAE

Another Kiske/Sommerville song.  Karlsson by numbers really, but a decent song for a single I guess.  Some Karlsson shred is always welcome though.
This song sucks. City Of heroes was a lot better. I'm getting this, but I hope there's no worse songs than this.

I always laugh at their videos because Amanda is trying to act all dramatic and Kiske is ..um..not! :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2015, 05:43:54 PM
Yeah, I thought that too.  Kiske just has a stupid plain dumb look on his face the whole time.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2015, 07:42:24 PM
Freefall 2 shaping up to have bigger names than the first one.  So far;

TONY MARTIN (ex- Black Sabbath)
JOE LYNN TURNER (ex- Rainbow ex-Deep Purple)
JORN LANDE
JAKOB SAMUEL (The Poodles)
HARRY HESS (Harem Scarem)

 :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 31, 2015, 09:53:26 PM
Jakob Samuel is under rated (or unknown) I reckon - has a nice Axl style rasp and enough power to go around.   One of the songs off their latest is a ripper , saving it up for Mr Hath's roulette  ;D. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 01, 2015, 05:28:40 AM
Freefall 2 shaping up to have bigger names than the first one.  So far;

TONY MARTIN (ex- Black Sabbath)
JOE LYNN TURNER (ex- Rainbow ex-Deep Purple)
JORN LANDE
JAKOB SAMUEL (The Poodles)
HARRY HESS (Harem Scarem)

 :hefdaddy

Was wondering if you saw that.  I went ape-shit when I saw it over the weekend.

:panicattack:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 01, 2015, 05:32:27 AM
Freefall 2 shaping up to have bigger names than the first one.  So far;

TONY MARTIN (ex- Black Sabbath)
JOE LYNN TURNER (ex- Rainbow ex-Deep Purple)
JORN LANDE
JAKOB SAMUEL (The Poodles)
HARRY HESS (Harem Scarem)

 :hefdaddy

Was wondering if you saw that.  I went ape-shit when I saw it over the weekend.

:panicattack:

Good to see you Chad.  Hope you're well.  Yeah, I freaked when I saw Tony Martin.  This is gonna be good.  Can't wait to see who else is on the roster.



Jakob Samuel is under rated (or unknown) I reckon - has a nice Axl style rasp and enough power to go around.   One of the songs off their latest is a ripper , saving it up for Mr Hath's roulette  ;D. 

I only have their last two albums, but they are both very good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 01, 2015, 09:14:20 AM
Finally... The Chad has come back to DTF

That line up for Free Fall is shaping up very nicely. Tony Martin is a very pleasant surprise!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 08, 2015, 05:27:48 AM
New House of Lords EPK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EadZs_yj2xM

Man, these guys are busy, last album only came out Feb last year.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 08, 2015, 07:32:40 AM
It's hard to tell too much from the EPK but it sounds like it could be a bit more varied than usual ,which is a good thing for me because I often find Jimi Bell's sound/writing a bit one dimensional.  If the songs are there I'll like it because James Christian is one of my all time favourite vocalists.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 09, 2015, 05:16:27 AM
At first I found the last album a bit underwhelming, but it turned into quite a grower and not a bad record IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2015, 09:15:49 AM
Precious Metal was definitely a grower.  Middle of the pack for me when it comes to 2014 releases.  This EPK makes Indestructible sound a little crunchier... me likey.  HoL is still pretty much an instant purchase for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2015, 03:44:55 AM
Precious Metal was definitely a grower.  Middle of the pack for me when it comes to 2014 releases.  This EPK makes Indestructible sound a little crunchier... me likey.  HoL is still pretty much an instant purchase for me.

Same here.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 12, 2015, 08:23:15 AM
Everything I hear from House of Lords is very good.  Demons Down is a great album and my favorite from what Ive heard from the band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 12, 2015, 09:06:13 AM
Everything I hear from House of Lords is very good.  Demons Down is a great album and my favorite from what Ive heard from the band.

DD is certainly their best. Most of their stuff is at least decent.
JC's wig is shit though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 12, 2015, 09:10:03 AM
 :lol  I always thought he was just trying to look like Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction.    He's got nothing on JLT though  ;D  That thing is a protected species of some kind.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2015, 10:01:46 AM
:lol  I always thought he was just trying to look like Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction.    He's got nothing on JLT though  ;D  That thing is a protected species of some kind.

Boals is the worst them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 12, 2015, 06:43:16 PM
Boals is that bad I didn't even think of it as a rug  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2015, 05:32:57 AM
Yeah, I think Boals gets my vote too.  Dunno what the hell he's thinking.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 13, 2015, 05:12:52 PM
Royal Hunt news:

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Wed like to announce that we already completed the songwriting/pre-production process for our new (thirteenth) studio album due to release later this year. Recordings will start shortly at NorthPoint Productions with Andr Andersen producing.

As a new twist on proceedings weve also started our first ever pre-ordering campaign on pledgemusic.com. Support us by sharing this information with your friends and other music fans, or even becoming a pledger.

Hopefully it's better than A Life to Die For.  That was a pretty mediocre album.  I honestly haven't gone back to it much since it got released (quick check of itunes shows I haven't listened to it since Dec/13).  Though, iirc, it came out around the time of Symphony of Sin and Rising From Ashes... both killer albums.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2015, 05:06:01 AM
I had a listen to that Royal Hunt album and from what I remember it was pretty shit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 16, 2015, 05:39:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VECI3keYKug

New Cain's Offering song.  Good classic power metal.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 16, 2015, 05:44:31 AM
I listened to it for about 5 seconds earlier then closed it. Solid cheese before the vocals even came in.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 16, 2015, 05:46:33 AM
I listened to it for about 5 seconds earlier then closed it. Solid cheese before the vocals even came in.

Not doing much for me either - production line "happy" power metal.   
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 16, 2015, 05:51:08 AM
Major keys have no balls.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 17, 2015, 09:45:24 PM
OK Blob..........I'll try and get my thoughts on Peterik/Scherer into something half coherent.


Listening to this album was a very familiar feeling - an album that I know is going to be raved over by the melodic rock crowd (of which I have until recent years been mostly on board with) but which for the most part underwhelmed me.   In fact this was going to be a pretty nasty score until 2 of the last 3 tracks showed a bit of originality in the music and saved it.

Jim Peterik would rank right up there if I was asked to name some of the best writers in the business , so I have nothing against his style and even when he's ultra cheesy (most of the time lately) I can still appreciate it when the music feels a bit fresh.   I know it's getting harder in a genre where it's almost all been done before but this guy has shown that he can do it on a regular basis in bands like Pride of Lions.   The track The Gift of Song is a good example......cheesy as a triple cheeseburger but the last few minutes are so awesome in terms of melody and vocals (Toby) that it gives me chills.  So it's not as if I have become immune to this style as my tastes have admittedly got a touch heavier.

For the most part this all sounds very safe and stuff that Peterik could write in his sleep.  It rocks rarely and the song structures are mostly very standard.  The vocal performance of Scherer has been talked up a lot in advance , but just as many of the songs sound like a half assed version of Pride of Lions , he sounds like a half assed version of Toby Hitchcock.  That's probably unfair as he still sounds great but he's not as good as Toby.  I also feel that many of these songs wouldn't have sounded so overtly cheestastic if sung by someone with a bit more of a rock voice like (RIP) Jamison.

My favourite tracks in the first half were Cold Blooded, Desperate In Love and The Dying Of The Light.  Towards the end Broken Home and Milestones saved the album score with some more thoughtful song writing ,although still very non-rock.

My score is as follows:

Cheesaholics:  78%
Cheesophobics:  68%
Me (in the middle): 73%
mr.com: 95%  ;)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 17, 2015, 10:04:48 PM
I still haven't given it a proper listen through, still mostly skimming, but I think I'm going to be a bit disappointed with it, with a couple of tracks I'll come back to. I don't mind the cheese at all, because it's exactly my kind of cheese for the most part, and it's the kind of cheese this genre is about, but it's a bit soft overall, and the songwriting isn't all up to the standard of the best tracks. The vocals are pretty good, but nothing to rave about.

I don't mind the music being safe or being stock in structure, as that's basically par for the genre, and in many ways that's how I like it. But I think the album leans too heavily on the ballads. My favourite tracks are Cold Blooded (I still absolutely love this song), Risk Everything, Thee Crescendo, and The Dying of the Light. I don't mind that Cold Blooded isn't representative of the style of the whole album, but it doesn't seem to be representative of the quality either.

Take Frederiksen's last album. The single "Last Battle of My War" was by far the most rock track, and wasn't indicative of the whole album, but the rest of the album was equally strong in songwriting imo, so I loved that album. I was hoping this would be a repeat of that.

I still haven't given the album a good listen through, but those are my initial thoughts. I expect I'll roughly agree with you on this one. I must say though, the production is great, easily one of the better sounding Frontiers albums.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 17, 2015, 10:10:43 PM
Yeah it does sound great , I'll give 'em that.  I don't mind simple structures either but songs written in that way need to do something else to get me interested (rock a bit , interesting melodies etc.....)  If they don't do that then the simple structure just amplifies the pedestrian nature of the whole thing. Knowing what Peterik is capable of probably adds to the frustration.  As you know I'm no prog head and musical wankery for the sake of it annoys me a lot more than simple song structures.

Now I'm onto the first track of Kiske/Somerville and here we go again.............very generic melodic rock/metal , but when I can tap my foot /bang my head a bit I find it much easier to tolerate the familiar feeling.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 17, 2015, 10:18:11 PM
See how you like this............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwA746P5h5Y

Almost as generic as the Peterik stuff , some pretty lame lyrics , but sometimes having some balls make a difference  :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 17, 2015, 10:21:58 PM
Not my kind of thing. That deviates too far into just being generic metal to me, and has no relation to melodic rock imo (not that there's a problem with that, as I listen to plenty of other genres, but it doesn't hit the spot as far as this thread goes). When it's that kind of metal, I find it loses the balls, because it's so flattened to the point of having no dynamics or life. It's just electronic sounding machine guns.

Yet another thing I'm quite pedantic on. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 17, 2015, 10:24:42 PM
Fair enough..........and I agree to an extent.  I can't see this getting 80%+ from me either and I'd take high quality AOR over either of these,.  It's just that if I have to choose between generic cheesy AOR and generic cheesy hard rock/metal with a singer like Kiske ,then I'd take the heavier stuff .
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 17, 2015, 10:32:23 PM
I like a particular kind of rock/heaviness when it comes to melodic rock. I don't want it wimpy and lacking balls, because I want my music to have energy to it, but I really hate the metal stuff that comes from the genre, because I find it bland and uninteresting.
Since a lot of the Frontiers stuff comes off the same production line, a lot of albums fall too neatly into one of those two camps, without a lot of room for inbetween unless they're a bit more self produced, like say Journey - Eclipse.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 17, 2015, 10:34:54 PM
What did you think of the debut Place Vendome?  To me that's the ideal mix of melodic rock/ metal from this sort of production line stuff as it actually has some great original writing on it - both on the ballads and the rockers.

The more I get through the Kiske/Somerville the more I'm getting the same "heard it all before" feeling. We've gone from Peterik by numbers to Karlsson by the numbers.  I'm starting to wonder if the time I put into new releases is worth it ............the strike rate is so low  :-\
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 17, 2015, 10:50:28 PM
Never heard it, but checked out a song on Youtube, and it sounded solid. I don't think I'm in the right frame of mind right now to be absorbing more melodic rock/metal though. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 17, 2015, 10:53:37 PM
I wouldn't be either if I was listening to The Hoff  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 17, 2015, 10:54:21 PM
Oh snap!

That was only once, and it knew it was cheese!

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 17, 2015, 11:18:38 PM
Well my initial thoughts on Kiske-Somerville aren't much different to the Peterik-Scherer.

Sounds great , the songs are competent but mostly by the numbers/uninspired.   The vocal performances are fine as expected.   I rated about half the songs as something I'd be happy to have on rotation and the rest were pretty average.  As with the Peterik album there were a couple of songs that stood out. My favourite may well be the ballad (usually not a good sign) After The Night Is Over.

I'll note that some of the lyrics on this are so bad I'd have trouble singing them without losing my shit.

I rate it 77%.  Another Frontiers project that sounds just like a Frontiers project.  And another album that seems to be scoring 90%+ everywhere i look for reviews.  So maybe it's just me.  :angel:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 17, 2015, 11:24:08 PM
I've been trying to find this melodic rock band for the longest time.  My friend played them for me once and what hooked me was when he said they sounded like TNT.  I know this is probably the vaguest description ever but it's all I have to go on.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 17, 2015, 11:28:08 PM
Masquerade?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahrlHIlGEH4
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 17, 2015, 11:38:01 PM
No.  But I'll check them out anyway.   :lol   

It's alright and I can definitely hear the Tony Harnell influence in his voice.  God, I remember how many CDs I had of melodic rock bands at one point.  My collection was immense. My friend turned me onto the band Fair Warning years ago and I basically went from there.  I am pretty sure Go was the first release of theirs I heard and loved it and then I got Four.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 17, 2015, 11:49:53 PM
Make sure you get Fair Warning's s/t debut too then.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 17, 2015, 11:54:44 PM
Oh........and I should mention it really shits me when people put a vague question out there like that and I feel I should know the bloody answer  :lol   I won't sleep tonight until I figure it out.   ::)  (only half joking)

Let's go more obscure-  Bigg Mouth.   Harnell actually did background vox on this and the guitarist even has the Le Tekro sound.  TNT meets Skid Row I suppose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJdv7YXgLVM
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 18, 2015, 12:01:37 AM
Oh........and I should mention it really shits me when people put a vague question out there like that and I feel I should know the bloody answer  :lol   I won't sleep tonight until I figure it out.   ::)  (only half joking)

Let's go more obscure-  Bigg Mouth.   Harnell actually did background vox on this and the guitarist even has the Le Tekro sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJdv7YXgLVM

Definitely not them.  I vaguely remember the band starting with the letter 'T' but that could be wrong.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 18, 2015, 12:13:02 AM
How about Harnell's replacement in TNT Tony Mills and his old band Shy.   I can't think of any bands starting with T that have ever been known as TNT soundalikes.

Try this..........sounds very TNT from the guitars to the vocals.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfZALVlK1Es

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikv_hsBwqT4
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 18, 2015, 12:49:32 AM
Maybe it was Shy.   I really wish I could remember for certain. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on April 18, 2015, 01:43:15 AM
Well my initial thoughts on Kiske-Somerville aren't much different to the Peterik-Scherer.

I'll note that some of the lyrics on this are so bad I'd have trouble singing them without losing my shit.

I rate it 77%.  Another Frontiers project that sounds just like a Frontiers project.  And another album that seems to be scoring 90%+ everywhere i look for reviews.  So maybe it's just me.  :angel:

Salvation! I can't resist your temptation! :lol

Well, it seems your rating matches my 7 - 7.5 / 10 alright.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 18, 2015, 02:21:52 AM
I would give it the same rating. It doesn't blow my ears out.  She's always pleasurable to watch which maybe adds 1 point to the rating.  I've always liked her since I saw her in the Epica home video. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 18, 2015, 02:55:04 AM
Major keys have no balls.

I really struggle with major keys. I can cope for the odd track as a change but it kills most "power" metal for me. No wonder my kids call me grumpy  :angry:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on April 18, 2015, 07:44:47 AM
77% is being generous I think.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2015, 03:52:12 AM
Got a copy of the Kiske/Somerville on Friday and have been spinning it in the car on the weekend.  First off, for the modern production, it actually sounds really clear and impressive.  Loud, but not over compressed.  The only thing I will say is that in the choruses Kiske sometimes sounds inaduable compared to Amanda.  Not really a big thing as these songs suit Amanda really well, and I'm notmally not that keen on female metal singers.

The songs I'm pretty sure Karlsson wrote in his sleep, and I question Sinner's involvement, but perhaps he handled the awful lyrics, as Karlsson's normally are passable.  There is nothing bad on here as everything Karlsson does usually is at a standard, but some of these songs are safe and just good.  There are a couple of good tracks here and as usual with his work, I'll get some replay value out of it.  Salvation is actually a fantastic track even with the horrible lyrics in the chrous.  Lights Out is a good rocker with a nice atmosphere, Rising Up and Breaking Neptune are solid tracks and Last Goodbye and Run With a Dream are pretty good too which actually both remind me heavily of Avantasia.  The final track seems so cliche and pop, but is actually a really good anthem IMO, and has a heavy Martenssen feel.

Perfomances are good, and the chick drummer certainly is impressive too.  Karlsson gets the job done, but I can's help but feel his guitar playing these days is quite lazy compared the the first Allen Lande and Last Tribe days.  The solos are top notch, but I think since he's so busy, a lot of these are rushed and even one take solos.  He's always been repetitive but seems in a little rut in terms of his solos.  Listen to some Last Tribe solos and then these and there's no comparison.

All in all, it's shitloads better than the last Allen lande and even though this is a safe effort, shows he should have still been handling that project.  Considering his first solo album, the last Primal Fear, along with his new solo album and no doubt a new Primal Fear, while providing songs each for Place Vendome and Revolution Saints, coming out with this with all that on your plate is a pretty impressive feat.  I just hoped he's left the real good stuff for Freefall and PF.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 19, 2015, 06:36:42 PM
I sampled a number of tracks and I'm just not sold on this. I just don't think it's strong enough.
Maybe 10-15 years ago I would've jumped on this, like I did with Supared and the self titled Kiske album, when Kiske was doing jack shit and you'd have to buy a sucky album just to hear his voice.
But his return to heavier music, the Unisonic albums, etc...no longer require me to buy a shit album.

Like Wolf, I don't really go for female vocals in my hard rock, and I like Somerville's voice well enough, but truth is, I cannot remember the last time I listened to the first K/S album.

Approaching the end of April now, and I've bought about 10, maybe a dozen 2015 albums already, which is the most I've bought in the first quarter of any year that I can remember, but I am really on the fence on this K/S album. I am finding it very hard part with any cash for this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 19, 2015, 06:45:39 PM
Looks like it wasn't just me. 

Kiske + TAC no likey = shit  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 19, 2015, 06:48:53 PM
Looks like it wasn't just me. 

Kiske + TAC no likey = shit  :lol

Yeah right? This album is just so bad. If he were doing ALL of the vocals, then maybe...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2015, 09:17:06 PM
It's not bad at all, that's a bit of a stretch IMO.  It's still quality for the type of music it is, but I think I can speak for all of us that the genre just seems to be getting too stale and safe.   I just couldn't be bothered with a lot of this style anymore.  Not the style I guess, just what is getting dished out.

I will say the new Eclipse impressed me, but won't have the lasting power as per Bleed and Scream.  Perhaps Frontiers should move more into the hard rock and metal stuff like Primal Fear and Level 10.  Those seem like a good mix lately that I'm really digging.

I will listen to the new Jim Peterik album, but I doubt I'll spend any money on a copy.  I can't believe how picky I've become lately with music and what I'm purchasing.  Getting older and more priorities I guess.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 19, 2015, 09:36:13 PM
I've alluded to it in my earlier post about wondering if I will even bother with new melodic rock releases any more but it seems to me that some fans of melodic rock (all of us here for starters) have become much more discerning and I think that's pretty understandable.  We're talking about a genre that was getting stale in the 90's and I don't think it's being too picky to expect a bit more than the same old same old when you already have hundreds or thousands of albums in this style in your collection.

We're currently in a situation where one label (Frontiers) is keeping the whole scene going in some ways and on one hand I thank them for that.  On the other hand - in order to make it work financially they're focusing on project bands/supergroups where the artists themselves defer the songwriting to the "Frontiers team" and ,the odd release aside , it's very stale.

As you know , before my arrival here I'd been hanging around with Paul and the mr.com crowd .  I only keep a lazy eye on what's going on over there now but all the releases that we have reservations about are being fawned over endlessly.  So these albums are cheap to produce and have a small but very loyal following which shows little sign of abating =no incentive to change.

One new song that is getting raved over is the new Trixter.  Now to me this is a talented band wasting their time trying to be 20 again , but it's going down a treat.   This is no project band either but doing the retro thing when it comes to 50 year old guys singing about chicks and so forth really makes me wince.  But they're getting rave reviews and good luck to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ1vxBJ_c9w


Out of all the recent new releases the one song that really gives me the best of both worlds is Before I Die by The Poodles.......surprise,surprise not a Frontiers release.   The subject matter is a bit like It's My Life by Bon Jovi - difference being this has some balls , crunchy guitars , better melodies and some nice playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p477gDIRxo

But it takes a lot of listening to find just the odd track that I really love these days .  The scene is nowhere near as strong as back in the day but the dramatic reduction in barriers to entry (cost of putting albums out there without record deals etc...) means there's so much crap to wade through.  No doubt there is good stuff passing us by for that reason.........it just gets lost.

Anyway.....I suppose we can be thankful that we're not being brought up on Top 40 stuff from today  :lol



PS  anyone else having trouble with Google Chrome? - some dodgy update seems to have gone through that's constantly freezing it  >:(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2015, 09:44:26 PM
Overall, you're pretty spot on.  I'm glad though there is fans that still lap up whatever Frontiers do,  It keeps them going no doubt.

The Poodles are pretty good.  I only have their last two, but they are both solid.  I forgot they had something new and will check it out.

Don't use Google Chrome Brent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 19, 2015, 10:15:21 PM
PS  anyone else having trouble with Google Chrome? - some dodgy update seems to have gone through that's constantly freezing it  >:(

Oh good, that's not just me then?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 19, 2015, 11:20:29 PM
Nah - been driving me mad today Blob.

So mad that I checked this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYcH6Dk3Urk&feature=youtu.be    :lol


 :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 19, 2015, 11:24:03 PM
Suddenly that Hoff song isn't looking so bad. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 19, 2015, 11:25:53 PM
Nah - been driving me mad today Blob.

So mad that I checked this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYcH6Dk3Urk&feature=youtu.be    :lol


 :metal

That's terrible.   :lol

I'm not sure if that is worse or Google Chrome sucking it lately.   
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 20, 2015, 06:20:37 AM
Nah - been driving me mad today Blob.

So mad that I checked this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYcH6Dk3Urk&feature=youtu.be    :lol


 :metal

*clicked link*
*saw the artist before the video started*
*immediately closed window*
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 20, 2015, 07:00:16 AM
Obviously not a fan of the idea of something being so bad it's good  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 20, 2015, 10:00:23 AM
Listening to Red Zone Rider today.  Damn good album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 20, 2015, 12:26:36 PM
It's not bad at all, that's a bit of a stretch IMO.  It's still quality for the type of music it is, but I think I can speak for all of us that the genre just seems to be getting too stale and safe.

Other than the fact that it has Kiske, I would not even go near this album.

  I can't believe how picky I've become lately with music and what I'm purchasing.  Getting older and more priorities I guess.
And that's just it.
I'm a huge Kiske fan, so I'm sure I'll get it eventually.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on April 20, 2015, 12:34:43 PM
The only thing I will say is that in the choruses Kiske sometimes sounds inaduable compared to Amanda. 

Good to know. We need more Amanda, but I love female fronted metal.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 20, 2015, 04:38:09 PM
Listening to Red Zone Rider today.  Damn good album.

Still need to check this one out.


It's not bad at all, that's a bit of a stretch IMO.  It's still quality for the type of music it is, but I think I can speak for all of us that the genre just seems to be getting too stale and safe.

Other than the fact that it has Kiske, I would not even go near this album.

  I can't believe how picky I've become lately with music and what I'm purchasing.  Getting older and more priorities I guess.
And that's just it.
I'm a huge Kiske fan, so I'm sure I'll get it eventually.

Kiske and Karlsson made it an instant purchase for me.  These days, I'd listen first, but probably wouldn't buy it.  Saying that, I'm still spinning it and it's worthy of a purchase.

The only thing I will say is that in the choruses Kiske sometimes sounds inaduable compared to Amanda. 

Good to know. We need more Amanda, but I love female fronted metal.

She's very dominant on this, so you may enjoy it.  Needs more Kiske IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 20, 2015, 05:20:52 PM
Got an 85 at Metal Reviews:
https://www.metalreviews.com/reviews/album/9099
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 20, 2015, 05:49:09 PM
All the reviews I have seen have been pretty positive.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 20, 2015, 05:56:47 PM
Well, I'm planning on getting the Impelliterri tomorrow, so maybe I'll grab this too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 20, 2015, 06:02:25 PM
Forgot about that one, will have to check it out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 20, 2015, 06:09:14 PM
All the reviews I have seen have been pretty positive.

aside from me , Evermind and Bolsters   :P  It's not an awful album by any means but it's just so boringly familiar and uninspired IMHO and that's why I feel a bit  :facepalm: when I see it getting 90-100% everywhere. Outside of DTF the mr.com virus seems to be spreading when it comes to ratings.

I have so much music to get through that I really can't see me playing it again.  The best song on Kiske/Somerville would perhaps be better than one , maybe two on the last Unisonic.   Stuff like that and Place Vendome (esp the first ) are on another level in all aspects for me  .
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 20, 2015, 06:27:23 PM
You said the word I think I've been looking for in regards to a lot of music these days, uninspired.  Hit the nail on the head.  That's the problem with a lot of music these days and some of the melodic rock stuff, it just doesn't seem genuine anymoe\re.  You can really tell a good album from a band that has a vision and is inspired these days.  Karlsson can put out great tunes, but this album is anything but inspired.  He was told to write an album for these two, and he did.  I think that's why I'm flicking so much music these days, I want something that really has had some thought and hard work put into it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 20, 2015, 06:28:45 PM
That first Place Vendome is fantastic. The second two..not so much.

You said the word I think I've been looking for in regards to a lot of music these days, uninspired.  Hit the nail on the head.  That's the problem with a lot of music these days and some of the melodic rock stuff, it just doesn't seem genuine anymoe\re.  You can really tell a good album from a band that has a vision and is inspired these days.  Karlsson can put out great tunes, but this album is anything but inspired.  He was told to write an album for these two, and he did.  I think that's why I'm flicking so much music these days, I want something that really has had some thought and hard work put into it.

But you ARE recommending the K/S right?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 20, 2015, 06:30:46 PM
Just for Kiske-aholics I think :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 20, 2015, 06:43:24 PM
I'd be interested in hearing the new Impellitteri. Rob Rock can do no wrong in my book
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 20, 2015, 06:49:55 PM
The Impellitteri is good , although for me it's the opening (title) track and then the rest .   It's more metal than even you jj  ;D     The opening line by Rob "Are you ready..........one........two.....three..........VENOOOOOOOM" is worth the price of admission alone  :lol and that riff is a ripper.

Having said that there are more stand out tracks on some of his earlier albums like Answer To The Master.  Venom is a very solid (if one dimensional) album though and Rob Rock is powerful as always.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 20, 2015, 07:29:29 PM
I've never bought, or heard, a single album by Impellitteri.

But I'm getting Venom.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 20, 2015, 09:10:09 PM
I've never bought, or heard, a single album by Impellitteri.

But I'm getting Venom.

I think the album cover is awesome
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 20, 2015, 09:40:21 PM
Just for Kiske-aholics I think :lol

And Karlsson fanboys.

I've never bought, or heard, a single album by Impellitteri.

But I'm getting Venom.

Yet, you're contemplating spending money on something with Kiske singing on?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on April 21, 2015, 04:21:06 AM
City of Heroes is way better than the debut. Sure they ripped off Madonna and Katy Perry, and a grown man in his 50s used the word "daddy", but the melodies are better, and Amanda has a bigger role as she should. Kiske is overrated as fuck anyway.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2015, 06:01:34 AM
City of Heroes is way better than the debut. Sure they ripped off Madonna and Katy Perry, and a grown man in his 50s used the word "daddy", but the melodies are better, and Amanda has a bigger role as she should. Kiske is overrated as fuck anyway.

(https://ajsupreme.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/mj-laughing.gif)

that Daddy line threw me too, stuck out big time.  Where are these Madonna and Perry rip offs?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 21, 2015, 06:15:33 AM
Paging Mr TAC......... :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on April 21, 2015, 06:17:16 AM
I missed the Daddy line. Which song was it in? I stopped paying attention to the lyrics after Salvation, admittedly.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 21, 2015, 06:24:58 AM
Rising Up..............I stole my daddy's car  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2015, 06:25:35 AM
I missed the Daddy line. Which song was it in? I stopped paying attention to the lyrics after Salvation, admittedly.

No idea.  Lights Out?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2015, 06:26:18 AM
Rising Up..............I stole my daddy's car  ;D

I was way off.  I heard this and it really fucking threw me.

I gotta say, this isn't Karlsson's best work, but it's quite an enjoyable album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on April 21, 2015, 06:29:33 AM
The only lyrics from that one I can recall are "Monday morning - rain was pouring" and the first line of the chorus. I totally missed this daddy thing.

Still one of my favourite songs from the album though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on April 21, 2015, 07:27:38 AM
City of Heroes is way better than the debut. Sure they ripped off Madonna and Katy Perry, and a grown man in his 50s used the word "daddy", but the melodies are better, and Amanda has a bigger role as she should. Kiske is overrated as fuck anyway.

(https://ajsupreme.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/mj-laughing.gif)

that Daddy line threw me too, stuck out big time.  Where are these Madonna and Perry rip offs?

He is. His vibrato is awful, and while he's a good singer, he's nothing special AT ALL.

I believe it's the daddy song that has a keyboard melody that's identical to a vocal melody from Katy Perry's Dark Horse. Not sure which song has the Madonna vocal melody.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2015, 03:36:26 PM
I have no clue what song Dark Horse is from Perry.  Shows how much I'm up with current music.  Will youtube it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on April 21, 2015, 03:52:48 PM
I have no clue what song Dark Horse is from Perry.  Shows how much I'm up with current music.  Will youtube it.

Not a very good one, which is the case with most of her music. The melody in question is when she says "are you ready for, ready for". I know it's not much, but that's all I can hear when that keyboard bit comes on.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 21, 2015, 03:53:51 PM
I basically have zero knowledge of current popular music lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 21, 2015, 03:57:53 PM
I basically have zero knowledge of current popular music lol
You have all the knowledge you need to know.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2015, 04:17:17 PM
I have no clue what song Dark Horse is from Perry.  Shows how much I'm up with current music.  Will youtube it.

Not a very good one, which is the case with most of her music. The melody in question is when she says "are you ready for, ready for". I know it's not much, but that's all I can hear when that keyboard bit comes on.

Had a listen to both Dark Horse and then Rising Up and I can't hear it all man.  Must be going deaf.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 21, 2015, 04:22:15 PM
I have no clue what song Dark Horse is from Perry.  Shows how much I'm up with current music.  Will youtube it.

Not a very good one, which is the case with most of her music. The melody in question is when she says "are you ready for, ready for". I know it's not much, but that's all I can hear when that keyboard bit comes on.

Had a listen to both Dark Horse and then Rising Up and I can't hear it all man.  Must be going deaf.

It's not you, bro.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on April 21, 2015, 04:59:08 PM
Well, good thing Nick Van Dyk didn't create this music cause right about now he'd come tell me how wrong I am.

Listening to it again, it doesn't sound nearly as similar as when I first heard it, but it still reminds me of that Perry line just sped up.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2015, 05:08:07 PM
Which keyboard part?  Can you give me a timestamp?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on April 21, 2015, 05:12:25 PM
Right before the solo at 3:12, and at the very end.

I can't find the Madonna melody. I know it's there damn it! This isn't This Mortal Coil part 2!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2015, 05:15:13 PM
I can actually see what you are saying now.  Not the same at all but yeah, I can see how it would remind you.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on April 21, 2015, 05:20:31 PM
The Madonna melody is in Run with a Dream. The line "I can remember how we started". :43

These are all nitpicks of course, and nothing serious. Hell, Nightwish's new album pretty much has the same guitar riff in every song, but I still love the album. Maybe they did it on purpose as a theme. Still lazy though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2015, 05:26:03 PM
The Madonna melody is in Run with a Dream. The line "I can remember how we started". :43

I wouldn't have a clue what Madonna song bro?  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on April 21, 2015, 05:28:59 PM
The Madonna melody is in Run with a Dream. The line "I can remember how we started". :43

I wouldn't have a clue what Madonna song bro?  :lol

Me neither. It's driving me nuts!  :yarr

EDIT: Like a Prayer. Again, not identical, but very reminiscent. 2:12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79fzeNUqQbQ

And again, this is petty nitpicking, I know. I just can't help but notice this stuff, then obnoxiously point it out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2015, 05:38:29 PM
Nothing rings a bell, but I only know Madonna's older hits. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on April 21, 2015, 05:39:12 PM
Edited my post above.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2015, 05:45:49 PM
haha, yeah I guess it's pretty similar.  You've got a pretty keen ear to pick these up mate.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on April 21, 2015, 05:50:23 PM
It's a fucking curse...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 21, 2015, 07:14:15 PM
I basically have zero knowledge of current popular music lol
You have all the knowledge you need to know.

 :lol  Word.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 21, 2015, 07:29:58 PM
I don't feel like going back 90 pages so I'll just ask here anyway.  Who here was a fan of Valentine?  I remember hearing that for the first and not being able to stop listening to it.  I became a big fan of Hugo after that and later on Open Skyz. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 21, 2015, 07:42:13 PM
I don't feel like going back 90 pages so I'll just ask here anyway.  Who here was a fan of Valentine?  I remember hearing that for the first and not being able to stop listening to it.  I became a big fan of Hugo after that and later on Open Skyz.

Not so much these days but I certainly was "back in the day".  That CD was a bit of a collectors item too.  That, Open Skyz and the first solo album he did with Vinny Burns all have their moments.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 21, 2015, 07:44:37 PM
Right, I remember having the first solo CD also. i have to try and find those again.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 21, 2015, 08:02:00 PM
I basically have zero knowledge of current popular music lol
You have all the knowledge you need to know.

 :lol  Word.

Double word.


What up men?  So, I spun a few of these new releases today. 

City of Heroes:  With all the meh-ness posted, I guess I had pretty low expectations, and was pleasantly surprised.  It was far more enjoyable than the debut, but I'll agree with the 'uninspired' comment.  It was fairly rudimentary by MK's standards, and I hope that your comment Kade of him saving his best for Primal Fear and FreeFall are spot on. 

Impellitteri - wow.  Nice, but c'mon... can the guy write a song longer than 4 minutes?  :lol.  Never heard any of his stuff before this album, and was suitably impressed.

Peterik & Scherer - couldn't get past 4 songs.  Softer than a wet noodle.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2015, 08:32:48 PM
Hey buddy, good to see you.

Yeah, I still got City of Heroes in the car, and it's pretty good.  I can see going back to it often enough until Freefall and PF come out.  I think the first album was a bit all over the place and felt a bit thrown together, with a few filler tracks bringing it down.  This seems like a more cohesive effort.

Gonna check both the Impelitteri and Peterik.  Not expecting much from the Peterik.  I think Work of Art is as soft as I can go.  Anything less and I'm probably out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 21, 2015, 09:03:17 PM
Hey buddy, good to see you.

Yeah, I still got City of Heroes in the car, and it's pretty good.  I can see going back to it often enough until Freefall and PF come out.  I think the first album was a bit all over the place and felt a bit thrown together, with a few filler tracks bringing it down.  This seems like a more cohesive effort.

Gonna check both the Impelitteri and Peterik.  Not expecting much from the Peterik.  I think Work of Art is as soft as I can go.  Anything less and I'm probably out.

It's good to be seen. 

I agree with you on WOA.  That's about as soft as I can handle too from this genre.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2015, 09:14:01 PM
So the Peterik is softer than that?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 21, 2015, 09:16:20 PM
So the Peterik is softer than that?

I'd say so.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 21, 2015, 09:21:13 PM
I'd rate Pride of Lions as softer on average than Work of Art and you guys like them I thought?  Peterik/Scherer sounds like PoL leftovers to me for the most part.   Quality stuff but also sounds dialed in given what he's capable of.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2015, 09:22:55 PM
I'd rate Pride of Lions as softer than Work of Art and you guys like them I thought?  Peterik/Scherer sounds like PoL leftovers to me for the most part.   Quality stuff but also sounds dialed in given what he's capable of.

You're right.  POL did cross my mind but yes, they are softer than WOA.  Immortal was the softest IMO and I really didn't enjoy that one at all.  The others are great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 21, 2015, 09:37:50 PM
I'd have to concur with that statement.  Funny, I was thinking as I listened to P/S today 'what does this remind me of'.  Thanks for jogging the memory there Brent.  It's been a while since I listened to PoL, but I'd put them on par with WOA in the 'soft' department.  Definitely prefer Toby's solo (and iirc, the album/post that started this thread). 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 21, 2015, 10:01:40 PM
While I was listening to Peterik/Scherer the thought crossed my mind that they should've called it Risk Nothing  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2015, 05:15:17 AM
I'd have to concur with that statement.  Funny, I was thinking as I listened to P/S today 'what does this remind me of'.  Thanks for jogging the memory there Brent.  It's been a while since I listened to PoL, but I'd put them on par with WOA in the 'soft' department.  Definitely prefer Toby's solo (and iirc, the album/post that started this thread).

Yes, that was my main inspiriation for this thread, along with WOA actually.  Funny how this genre has halted it seems over the last couple of years.  That Hitchcock album is so good it's not funny.  We haven't really had anything as good since IMO.

I'm listening to POL's Immortal right now to see how I like it.  On the third song, and yeah, it's okay, pretty soft and meh though.

EDIT:  I'm just flicking through this POL now.  Some of the songs sound like Mariah Carey or something.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2015, 05:29:18 AM
New Nelson;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsl2ZhFL20Y

Fucking horseshit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 22, 2015, 05:32:31 AM
Shithouse production too.........and I know that riff .  :-\   Sounds like something Bret Michaels would do.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2015, 05:37:51 AM
What the fuck is going on lately?  Is it us?  :lol

Some of these POL Immortal songs are okay.  Shine On is wimpy but I really like it for some reason.  There's a couple at the end that are pretty decent too.  Vital Signs is great, as it should be with the name.

Just purchased a cheap digital copy of the Peterik/Schierer (whatever his name is album)  downloading now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 22, 2015, 05:39:30 AM

Just purchased a cheap digital copy of the Peterik/Schierer (whatever his name is album)  downloading now.

If you spell it like that it may be vying for No 1 in New Zealand with The Judas Goat

What the fuck is going on lately?  Is it us?  :lol


That Nelson is so bad it'll struggle to get 90% :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2015, 05:50:10 AM
haha.  Yeah, looks like I was way off with his name.

Having a quick listen to a few songs now from it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 22, 2015, 05:57:02 AM
Anyone have track recommendations from City Of Heroes? Love the title track but still need convincing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2015, 06:00:23 AM
Anyone have track recommendations from City Of Heroes? Love the title track but still need convincing.

The full album is on youtube I beleive.

It's actually pretty consistent, most tracks are decent enough.  But my favs are;

Salvation (yes, even with the lyrics)
Lights Out
Run With A Dream
Breaking Neptune
Rising Up
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2015, 06:01:51 AM
That Nelson is so bad it'll struggle to get 90% :lol

I don't know. Probably 91-92, dont wanna go overboard. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 22, 2015, 06:11:42 AM
Shithouse production too.........and I know that riff .  :-\   Sounds like something Bret Michaels would do.



What? The production is easily better than 99% of the albums mentioned in this thread.
Song was decent, although hopefully not one of the best on the album. Lightning Strikes Twice was so damn amazing, I'll give this the benefit of the doubt for now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2015, 06:14:07 AM
I'm with Brent, that Nelson song sounded like shit.

Peterik & Scherer - couldn't get past 4 songs.  Softer than a wet noodle.

Got through 5 and then flicked through the rest.  Pretty terrible if I'm being honest.  Immortal is much better, and that's saying something.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 22, 2015, 06:14:34 AM
I would agree that 99% of albums mentioned in this thread have better production than that Nelson track.  :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 22, 2015, 06:28:58 AM
Think I'm taking a pass on the K/S for now. Listened to a few tracks. Really doing nothing for me. Maybe in a couple years when I realize I have a gaping hole in my Kiske collection I'll grab it for a late discovery, but I just cannot buy it now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 22, 2015, 06:32:27 AM
I would agree that 99% of albums mentioned in this thread have better production than that Nelson track.  :P

Most albums mentioned in this thread have total shit production tbh. :lol

Maybe you've just developed a taste for the shit now. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 22, 2015, 06:44:55 AM
Not on your life .......I would rather good music that sounds like shit than shit music though   ;).


I suppose it doesn't have that "loudness wars" effect and so the "production" is better in that way - it may just be the shitty guitar/drum sound they're going for.  Sometimes sounding stripped back works - here I don't believe it does.
If that's the angle you're coming from then I agree.....at least the production on the Nelson breathes a bit - it just has bad breath.   ;D

It's a sad fact that when we chat here I make allowances for the idea that 90% + of the music released these days has bugger all dynamic range .  It's almost a given.

Like I said the other day I'm seriously thinking about not checking out new releases outside of bands I really expect the goods from , because not only do 90% of them sound crap relative to the older stuff  , but 90% are just production line material.   I have a much better strike rate looking for gems from the past .
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 22, 2015, 06:48:43 AM
Not really - in fact .......never mind   ;)..............look , I know where you're coming from but that Nelson sounds like crap. I suppose it doesn't have that "loudness wars" effect and so the "production" is better in that way - it's may just be the shitty guitar/drum sound they're going for.  If that's the angle you're coming from then I agree.....at least the production on the Nelson breathes a bit - it just has bad breath.  ;D


My angle is the production is not bad. At all. It's good, in fact.
Loudness aside, most albums posted in this thread have garbage production, with the same nasty triggered metal drums, gated guitars EQ'd to sound like they were recorded by an iPhone, and leads that sound like mud. Opinion of the Nelson song aside, I don't know how you could say the production is bad compared to what gets posted here.

But man, I agree with you on that last paragraph. Modern albums do mostly sound like ass, and the music is rarely as good when it comes to melodic rock or hard rock stuff. It's really disheartening that even if a band writes a great new album, I can barely listen to it due to over compression. There are many good recent albums that I just unintentionally don't listen to, because the production ruins the music.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 22, 2015, 06:57:37 AM
To save confusion above.......Blob quoted me before I finished editing.  I suppose my thoughts depend on what you define as "production".   It may well have a decent dynamic range and so forth but if the raw sound of the instruments is shit then I'd never say it has a good production.

Anyway........whatever you define it as. I don't like how it sounds.   I also don't like how Kiske/Somerville sounds but at least it has half a testicle.  I'd rather a beefy over compressed metal guitar sound than a stripped back raw guitar that sounds like a Telecaster  through a training amp.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 22, 2015, 07:01:15 AM
Meh. Frontiers metal albums all sound awful, like something you'd get if you entirely recorded your album through a webcam mic into Garage Band. Balls require dynamics.

I define good production as the instruments sounding like actual instruments, and not sounding like what some high school kid did for their school project. The Nelson production sounded good. They're obviously going for a more raw stripped back sound, and it succeeds.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 22, 2015, 07:07:07 AM
Meh yourself .   I think we basically agree on what makes a good production.  I just think the actual inputs on this sound like shit.  If that means success for them then cool bananas.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 22, 2015, 07:10:51 AM
Let's just agree that all of the best sounding albums were from 1982 - 1992.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 22, 2015, 07:11:48 AM
 :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 22, 2015, 07:19:05 AM
Hey Brent... just a reminder that most of us here in this thread come at our Melodic/AOR from a different angle than your country-mate.  Disagreeing with Blob's musical tastes means you're doing it right.   :lol

Personally, I'm not such an audiophile that I can hear the stuff you guys are referring to.  Hell, I convert my library to 128kbps so that it can all fit on my iPhone.  An album has to be really bad - like Vapour Trails, or Queensryche's last album - before the production quality detracts from my enjoyment of it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 22, 2015, 07:23:27 AM
Personally, I'm not such an audiophile that I can hear the stuff you guys are referring to.  Hell, I convert my library to 128kbps so that it can all fit on my iPhone. 

ಠ_ಠ

You completely invalidated all of your opinions with this. Enjoy your 16khz bandwidth and hollow compression artifacts, chum.............p.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on April 22, 2015, 07:29:07 AM
I'm no audiophile, but 128 is garbage.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 22, 2015, 07:29:54 AM
Personally, I'm not such an audiophile that I can hear the stuff you guys are referring to.  Hell, I convert my library to 128kbps so that it can all fit on my iPhone. 

ಠ_ಠ

You completely invalidated all of your opinions with this. Enjoy your 16khz bandwidth and hollow compression artifacts, chum.............p.

(https://img.pandawhale.com/post-51461-Ace-Ventura-alrighty-then-gif-TMeR.gif)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on April 22, 2015, 07:33:34 AM
You completely invalidated all of your opinions with this. Enjoy your 16khz bandwidth and hollow compression artifacts, chum.............p.
At Chad's age I doubt there's much of anything above 16kHz that he could hear anyway. :lol

But 128kbps is just nasty.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zydar on April 22, 2015, 07:35:57 AM
FLAC is where it's at.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 22, 2015, 09:09:02 AM
Check out this one Blob....new Sirenia  .    Production?  :lol

https://youtu.be/jhNpvE9bZMA
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 22, 2015, 02:48:40 PM
Shithouse production too.........and I know that riff .  :-\   Sounds like something Bret Michaels would do.

Bloody hell. Their last album sounded a million bucks. This... doesn't. Last album had some great lyrics too.
The last one was a great rock album. This song is ok, not great. Shit production aside (and the whispering gets on my tits). Lesson in how to kill those harmonies.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 22, 2015, 02:50:46 PM
Shithouse production too.........and I know that riff .  :-\   Sounds like something Bret Michaels would do.



What? The production is easily better than 99% of the albums mentioned in this thread.
Song was decent, although hopefully not one of the best on the album. Lightning Strikes Twice was so damn amazing, I'll give this the benefit of the doubt for now.

|Hey I'm agreeing with Blob. WTF happened? lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2015, 03:33:42 PM
I'm with Chad, no issue with 128 here.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 22, 2015, 04:34:51 PM
I'm with Chad, no issue with 128 here.

(https://replygif.net/i/602.gif)

For my listening purposes, 128 suits me just fine.  For the most part, I listen to music through my laptop - either on my earbuds, or a very basic 2.1 speaker system.  At that point, I'm listening either at 256, or 320.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2015, 05:00:53 PM
If I burn albums on a wma cd for the car, I usually put them on at 128, just so I can fit more albums on the cd.  In the car, I can't tell the difference to be honest.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on April 22, 2015, 05:38:54 PM
The compressed cymbals of 128kbps audio is very noticeable.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2015, 06:11:56 PM
The compressed cymbals of 128kbps audio is very noticeable.

I can somewhat agree with this, but it can depend on the original production IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 22, 2015, 06:38:44 PM
I listen primarily on my iPod at 128. I can't tell the difference between 128/256/320.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 22, 2015, 08:30:41 PM
I'm with Chad, no issue with 128 here.

You people are part of the problem.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 22, 2015, 09:02:14 PM
What problem?

(https://s23.postimg.org/h8uzt04bv/what_problem.jpg)






Any Aussies remember one of my fave TV ads of the 90's?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 22, 2015, 09:10:09 PM
Sure, I remember that ad well. Back when label makers were apparently a thing. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2015, 09:10:32 PM
I'm with Chad, no issue with 128 here.

You people are part of the problem.

no u.


What problem?

(https://s23.postimg.org/h8uzt04bv/what_problem.jpg)






Any Aussies remember one of my fave TV ads of the 90's?

Yeha, brother labels I think, great ad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2015, 05:26:17 AM
Another Cain's Offering song.  This one is much better than the first one;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aixp4ENDtUc
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 23, 2015, 05:35:18 AM
Then I'm glad I skipped the first one too. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on April 23, 2015, 05:43:58 AM
I'd be more interested if they weren't following Power Metal 101 to the letter.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 23, 2015, 06:08:31 AM
I'd be more interested if they weren't following Power Metal 101 to the letter.

There is a Power Metal thread.  Why don't we use that one too?  Maybe it should be titled the "Power/Melodic Metal thread".  That way, we don't poke the Blob anymore than we have to.   ;)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on April 23, 2015, 06:12:16 AM
I'd be more interested if they weren't following Power Metal 101 to the letter.

There is a Power Metal thread.  Why don't we use that one too?  Maybe it should be titled the "Power/Melodic Metal thread".  That way, we don't poke the Blob anymore than we have to.   ;)

All he'll do if you continue is mock you from his dark room in the corner of his house.  You're safe Chad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 23, 2015, 06:28:31 AM
I'd be more interested if they weren't following Power Metal 101 to the letter.

There is a Power Metal thread.  Why don't we use that one too?  Maybe it should be titled the "Power/Melodic Metal thread".  That way, we don't poke the Blob anymore than we have to.   ;)

Like that's ever stopped any of you. :lol :getoffmylawn:

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 23, 2015, 07:16:09 AM
AOR?  I finally got around to listening to all of MSG's Save Yourself yesterday.  Solid stuff.  I like it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 23, 2015, 07:53:04 AM
AOR?  I finally got around to listening to all of MSG's Save Yourself yesterday.  Solid stuff.  I like it.

Anytime is one of the great melodic rock ballads but I can't say that I play much else fromit.  I think the last few songs were my faves outside of that ,which is unusual.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on April 23, 2015, 08:00:03 AM
Oh, Anytime is one of the best power ballads there is.  Amazing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 23, 2015, 08:36:04 AM
AOR?  I finally got around to listening to all of MSG's Save Yourself yesterday.  Solid stuff.  I like it.

Never heard any of them, so I deferred to my rule #1. Not bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on April 23, 2015, 10:38:02 AM
Oh, Anytime is one of the best power ballads there is.  Amazing.

Absolutely agree.  Amazing song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 23, 2015, 10:46:07 AM
Oh, Anytime is one of the best power ballads there is.  Amazing.

Absolutely agree.  Amazing song.

IIRC, JJ sent it to me in my first roulette.  Great track.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on April 23, 2015, 10:51:36 AM
I did not know that.  That video had some good airplay on MTV.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 23, 2015, 01:47:16 PM
AOR?  I finally got around to listening to all of MSG's Save Yourself yesterday.  Solid stuff.  I like it.

Anytime is one of the great melodic rock ballads but I can't say that I play much else fromit.  I think the last few songs were my faves outside of that ,which is unusual.

I thought it was a really sstrong album. The only clunker being I Am Your Radio.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 23, 2015, 02:05:03 PM
AOR?  I finally got around to listening to all of MSG's Save Yourself yesterday.  Solid stuff.  I like it.

Anytime is one of the great melodic rock ballads but I can't say that I play much else fromit.  I think the last few songs were my faves outside of that ,which is unusual.

Save Yourself is by far the best of the McCauley Schenker albums. Certainly the heaviest. I would also say that it is the loosest that Schenker's playing is, and I find it really enjoyable.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on April 24, 2015, 12:30:12 AM
Another Cain's Offering song.  This one is much better than the first one;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aixp4ENDtUc

Sounds pretty good, can't wait to get the CD next week.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on April 24, 2015, 12:34:37 AM
I listen primarily on my iPod at 128. I can't tell the difference between 128/256/320.

To my ears 128 sound like AM radio with a pillow muffling the sound, in other words bloody terrible.
I really hate having 'good' ears and buying bloody CD's all the time, has cost me a fortune  ;D

I might have a few less of these:
(https://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/gazinwales/326843_4274419590890_1831134153_o.jpg) (https://s299.photobucket.com/user/gazinwales/media/326843_4274419590890_1831134153_o.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 24, 2015, 12:37:54 AM
To me that Cains Offering sounds like it's coming at me through a pillow gaz .........so loud on the production that it's a real mess IMO - if the YT clip is representative of the sound.   I'm not fazed anyway - this sort of drum-athon style happy power metal really ain't my thing in most cases.

I love Kotipelto but I much rather what he's doing with Stratovarius these days.

As far as CDs go I've slowed to a crawl - maybe half a dozen a year.  Not enough new releases sound good enough for me to bother and sometimes due to the mastering the mp3 actually sounds better.  I'm roughly half/half now -something like 2500 CDs and not too much less in digital.   The digital has caught up very quick these last few years.  All my real faves are on CD though - purchased "back in the day."
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on April 24, 2015, 04:20:15 AM
Yeah I really don't like YT at all for new studio stuff, it's compressed audio to start with, then add on the YT compression and it starts to get a little messy.

To me, Kotipelto is singing better than ever and the first Cain's Offering was one of his best performances in the studio.
It also helps that without Tolkki (not making him sing to high anymore), that his Strato singing is also very good.

I've really cut down on CD's too, only a few per month now, I'm buying vinyl again too.
I could never go the digital only route, I like the feel of the CD and reading the booklet and of course the superior quality to mp3.
I think that pic might be a couple years old and shot when I first moved into my current residence.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 25, 2015, 06:31:33 AM
OK Blob..........I'll try and get my thoughts on Peterik/Scherer into something half coherent.


Cheesaholics:  78%
Cheesophobics:  68%
Me (in the middle): 73%
mr.com: 95%  ;)


(https://s7.postimg.org/b9d8143zv/psc.jpg) 


 :hat
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 25, 2015, 06:35:12 AM
To be fair, by saying 95%, you were guaranteed to be within 5% of any mr.com rating. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 25, 2015, 06:40:36 AM
Just admit it man - I risked everything with that prediction  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 25, 2015, 06:42:27 AM
:lol You risked nothing, and you know it!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on April 25, 2015, 07:53:17 AM
Must be a Melodicrock.com revue. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2015, 03:39:34 AM
95?  Good lord, my respect for that site is getting lower and lower. 

Just saw Kiske/Somerville got a lower score than that one too.  Wow.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2015, 06:52:01 PM
About to have a listen to the new Poodles.  I really like the last 2.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 27, 2015, 06:53:47 PM
About to have a listen to the new Poodles.  I really like the last 2.

The opening track Before I Die is a belter but beyond that I thought it was very solid without being anything brilliant.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2015, 06:57:59 PM
That opening track was a cracker.  You're right, the second track dips a little in quality.  The last two were nothing really spectacular either, just solid, cathy tunes.  I'm not expecting that much from this.

I'm buying cheap digital copies of everything now and that will determine if I buy something on cd, except for certain artists, which will always be first day purchases.  Man, times change.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2015, 08:22:05 PM
The Poodles was just that, solid.  Although the last three tracks I thought were really well written and enjoyable.  It gets a bit lost in the middle though.  Still solid, not sure how I'd rank it compared to the last two.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2015, 06:15:07 AM
New Serpentine;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ce99xsKimg

New singer is pretty boring and shit, but for some reason I don't mind this.  Gary Hughes produced it, but sounds like he cleary wrote this song.  Would have sounded better with him singing it, obviously sounds like his range, not this fella.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 28, 2015, 06:34:45 AM
That's a pretty cool tune.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 29, 2015, 04:20:08 PM
Just given the new Bonfire a listen. No Claus Lessman this time - David Reece is on vocals and I liked it on first listen. Needs more plays but a promising start. The vocals give a bit of a Southern Rock feel. Lyrics aren't anything to write home about...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 29, 2015, 05:17:26 PM
Just given the new Bonfire a listen. No Claus Lessman this time - David Reece is on vocals and I liked it on first listen. Needs more plays but a promising start. The vocals give a bit of a Southern Rock feel. Lyrics aren't anything to write home about...

I intend checking that one out shortly.  The previews that I've heard sounded good , but nothing much like Bonfire.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 29, 2015, 10:44:19 PM
Another new one that I hope to check out soon is called Riot On Mars.  I understand that it's very retro rock sounding so I'm not sure how it'll go down but it's essentially a solo album by Barry Sparks (Dokken, Schenker, Malmsteen) where he's playing bass + everything else and with Mike Vescera on vocals.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 29, 2015, 10:59:29 PM
I'd be interested in that one.  Great vocalist.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 30, 2015, 03:51:14 AM
Mike Vescera is a great vocalist
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 30, 2015, 11:36:54 AM
Just given the new Bonfire a listen. No Claus Lessman this time - David Reece is on vocals and I liked it on first listen. Needs more plays but a promising start. The vocals give a bit of a Southern Rock feel. Lyrics aren't anything to write home about...

I intend checking that one out shortly.  The previews that I've heard sounded good , but nothing much like Bonfire.

Had another listen today and it stands up. I guess it's not very Bonfire-y but not a million miles away. Certainly David Reece gives it a bluesier, southern rock edge than Claus would have. Some good songs there though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on May 03, 2015, 12:03:46 PM
The new Cain's Offering is alright. I'm not into cookie cutter Power Metal anymore(besides older Kamelot and some older Sonata Arctica) but this isn't bad.

EDIT: I think it's because it sounds exactly like old Sonata Arctica that I like it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2015, 04:19:57 PM
I'm an expecting just that, a solid enjoyable power metal outing.  I'll definitely purchase this one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 03, 2015, 09:14:37 PM
Seeing as we're discussing Cain's Offering here I'll give my initial thoughts.  I came into this one expecting to be totally underwhelmed as ,in my mind , they represent the cookie cutter happy power metal side of Stratovarius that I don't like (and I love Strato - just their more powerful side).  So I'll say that it was a bit of an upside surprise.

The first three tracks were exactly as expected and had me fearing the worst but from track 4 onward I thought it really picked up.  It's certainly nothing special , and I've heard this sort of stuff a million times before, but there is a lot more variety in pace than I was expecting. I would also say that although the lows are lower , the highs are also higher than on the Kamelot.  And so , although the scores are in the same ballpark , I'm much more likely to return to the Cain's Offering. 

Favorite tracks:

I Will Build You A Rome - just for the 1 minute or so where they added some balls - all too short though.  Had the potential to be a great track

Too Tired To Run: nice enough ballad.

My Heart Beats For No One -  my fave and well above what I was expecting.  This sounds a lot like Nemesis era Strato  which surprised me - even down to the guitar sound.


Antemortem is good but sounds way too much like leftover Nightwish.  The opening riff is so Nightwish it's ridiculous.

The last few tracks are also quite consistent and end the album on a solid note.

The sound.........not great but clearly better than the Kamelot.  At least I could hear the guitars through the mud.

All in all.......better than expected and I rate it 74%
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on May 03, 2015, 09:21:28 PM
I agree regarding Stormcrow. Some of the songs are just generic power metal and pretty boring, but some of the songs rise above that. My Heart Beats For No One was the highlight of the album for me aswell.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on May 04, 2015, 03:56:10 AM
Sure it's nothing new to the power metal genre. But for my ears it's just so well done.
It has the spark that Sonata Arctica used to have and lost when Jani left.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 04, 2015, 06:07:30 AM
It has the spark that Sonata Arctica used to have and lost when Jani left.

I felt that about the first album.  Quite looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on May 05, 2015, 08:10:26 PM
lol at that Nightwish riff on the new Cain's Offering. That's like their signature riff. They must have known.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 05, 2015, 09:37:50 PM
Actually not sure if I should fork out the cash right away to get this.  Man, I've changed.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on May 05, 2015, 09:58:24 PM
Get Ellie Goulding's first 2 albums instead. That's if you like pop music, of course.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 05, 2015, 10:03:16 PM
Get Ellie Goulding's first 2 albums instead. That's if you like pop music, of course.

I'll have to google who that is bro.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 06, 2015, 04:03:34 PM
Hey Brent, have you heard anything from the new Ten album that's suppose to be out within 2 weeks?  You think we'd be able to hear something so close to the release date.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 07, 2015, 02:07:43 AM
Try this Kade

https://youtu.be/njxgN1w-JbY

I haven't listened to it myself as yet and I haven't heard anything else from the album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 07, 2015, 02:09:26 AM
It sounds like someone recorded vocals and guitars over a MIDI file.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on May 07, 2015, 02:44:00 AM
As much as I want to disagree, you're spot on, it sounds terrible
the compression is so bad.

Then the lyrics, they are even worse.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 07, 2015, 03:34:44 AM
Hmm...........I lasted just under a minute and I'm a big fan.  :-\    That's Ten by the numbers big time.   I was hoping for something similar to the debut/Name of the Rose which were essentially written together and released a few months apart (like Albion and this one) ,with the second album being the best and heaviest.

I have to have serious doubts after that.

I think what's happened here (once again) is that he's spread himself too thin with these two albums + Serpentine . In the past it's been Once and Future King , Catley solo albums etc..... and despite being a master songwriter you just can't keep it up in massive volume.  Karlsson has done the same thing at times.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2015, 05:13:17 AM
Damn, that's disappointing.  Albion IMO was a really mature and well done album, this is just average.  I thought it would be in the same vein as the last one.  Bugger.  Hopefully it's not the best song or anything, as it's clearly filler.  The compression is really bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2015, 05:15:30 AM
Hmm...........I lasted just under a minute and I'm a big fan.  :-\    That's Ten by the numbers big time.   I was hoping for something similar to the debut/Name of the Rose which were essentially written together and released a few months apart (like Albion and this one) ,with the second album being the best and heaviest.

I have to have serious doubts after that.

I think what's happened here (once again) is that he's spread himself too thin with these two albums + Serpentine . In the past it's been Once and Future King , Catley solo albums etc..... and despite being a master songwriter you just can't keep it up in massive volume.  Karlsson has done the same thing at times.

Aha, he did write that Serpentine song didn't he? I could tell it should have been sung by him.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on May 07, 2015, 05:33:22 AM
Of course it's going down a treat over the the MR forum  :o
Ten's best days are long gone.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 07, 2015, 10:34:02 AM
That vocal at the beginning is Tate-like. Modern Tate that is. Shit. Poor song too. Not a good start for the album but I'll reserve judgement til I've heard it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 07, 2015, 11:19:15 AM
Not really familiar with this band besides from this thread, but doesn't sound like it's worth checking out
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 07, 2015, 12:46:19 PM
Not really familiar with this band besides from this thread, but doesn't sound like it's worth checking out

Don't judge them by this song, try this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lEFza29eMI&index=3&list=RD5uEvSRacdoE

or this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUjp-4ejk10&list=RD5uEvSRacdoE&index=19

Their first 3-4 albums were excellent
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 07, 2015, 01:27:08 PM
Copy thanks, will do
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 07, 2015, 03:18:43 PM
Of course it's going down a treat over the the MR forum  :o
Ten's best days are long gone.

Did you check out Albion?

As Paul said, their first few were excellent, but some of the later stuff was decent too IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 09:29:44 AM
Tolkki's new project - just for you Kade  ;D

https://youtu.be/jixSpQxG_o8

It sounds pretty very crappy but I suppose you can turn the sound down and check out the chick singing.

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/caterinanixpromo2015_638.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 11, 2015, 12:38:51 PM
Great video with the volume turned all the way down
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2015, 04:07:10 PM
She's smokin'.

This sounds worse than Avalon and Allen/Lande.  :lol  Tolkki needs to seriously go away.  Again, the choruses here sound generic and recycled, and not to mention simplistic.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 04:21:58 PM
Tolkki needs to seriously go away. 

Would you go away if you had her telling you how good you are ?  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 11, 2015, 04:23:59 PM
Ha that's a good point by Brent
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on May 11, 2015, 04:47:05 PM
I'm all for pop metal, but that sucked.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2015, 04:48:58 PM
Tolkki needs to seriously go away. 

Would you go away if you had her telling you how good you are ?  ;D

(https://data.archive.moe/board/mlp/image/1393/80/1393802351215.gif)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2015, 04:53:00 PM
Frontiers is seriously going downhill fast in terms of their music quality output.

Primal Fear or Winger gotta get an album out quick.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 11, 2015, 06:15:52 PM
Is Freefall 2 on Frontiers? I think that's a safe bet that release will be great
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2015, 10:33:17 PM
New House of Lords

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaB8QDEFZxo

Those keys in the opening verse immediately reminded me of Robe era TEN.  I think it's alright , but at the risk of sounding like a broken record , it's pretty "by the numbers" for them.

Is Freefall 2 on Frontiers? I think that's a safe bet that release will be great

I'm pretty sure that everything he does is Frontiers.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 12, 2015, 02:56:16 AM
By the numbers for sure, but still good
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2015, 05:13:03 AM
Yeah, it reminds me of the last one, but it's pretty solid.  The last album wasn't as good as the couple before but was quite a grower.  I think this will be okay.  And at least the production sounds a bit better than what has been coming out lately.  Sounds nice and beefy.

And yeah, Karlsson is a pretty loyal Frontiers man.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 12, 2015, 08:36:48 PM
New video by Ellen Degeneres ...........I mean Nelson.  The sound is a lot better than the last example on Youtube and the music sounds a lot more like Danger Danger.....I mean Nelson.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNI_vSYP-S0
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 12, 2015, 11:02:28 PM
Not my favourite of the songs they've shown so far (Back in the Day is the standout so far for me), but it's ok. Video is kinda...... well at least the production quality of it is better than the usual Frontiers fare. That's something.
I'm still looking forward to the album though.

Ellen. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 13, 2015, 12:29:47 AM
Zero interest in Nelson
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2015, 05:22:27 AM
New video by Ellen Degeneres ...........I mean Nelson.  The sound is a lot better than the last example on Youtube and the music sounds a lot more like Danger Danger.....I mean Nelson.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNI_vSYP-S0

Let the video play without watching and then had to check the vid to make sure you hadn't linked that Danger Danger song from the last album.  The opener I think, 'That's What I'm Talking About.'  Pretty much the same.  If this was the one I linked a couple of weeks ago, I didn't even notice that similarity at the time.

Ain't gonna bother with this though, I'll go back and listen to Revolve.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 13, 2015, 09:37:36 AM
I think ouzo makes my sense of humour deteriorate but I just saw this cover and it struck me as the perfect album art

(https://i051.radikal.ru/1107/18/e5205193ad70.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 13, 2015, 03:16:38 PM
JLT is da man.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 13, 2015, 03:21:39 PM
Of he pulled a Bruce Jenner, would anyone be surprised? ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 13, 2015, 06:16:12 PM
Of he pulled a Bruce Jenner, would anyone be surprised? ;D

It might get the potential Rainbow reunion more publicity
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 15, 2015, 02:56:37 PM
The new Nelson is up on Spotify. Production sounds dull, nowhere near the quality of the last one. Songs sound fine so far.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 15, 2015, 09:56:30 PM
The new Nelson is up on Spotify. Production sounds dull, nowhere near the quality of the last one. Songs sound fine so far.

I've been forwarded a promo CD copy from someone who doesn't want it  :lol  - will have a listen on the weekend.  Then I'll pack it up and send it along express post to jj for review .
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 15, 2015, 10:18:56 PM
The new Nelson is up on Spotify. Production sounds dull, nowhere near the quality of the last one. Songs sound fine so far.

I've been forwarded a promo CD copy from someone who doesn't want it  :lol  - will have a listen on the weekend.  Then I'll pack it up and send it along express post to jj for review .

Aw, I'd take it! One of the few albums I'm interested in right now. I'll check it out right now on Spotify if it's available in this country.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 16, 2015, 01:18:28 AM
The new Nelson is up on Spotify. Production sounds dull, nowhere near the quality of the last one. Songs sound fine so far.

I've been forwarded a promo CD copy from someone who doesn't want it  :lol  - will have a listen on the weekend.  Then I'll pack it up and send it along express post to jj for review .

Haha. Immediately frisbee tossed into the garbage can
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 16, 2015, 01:43:34 AM
I just checked out the album on Spotify. I really like Back in the Day, and You and Me stands out as a good rocker, but the rest is a bit of a letdown. It's not as layered and polished as Lightning Strikes Twice. It's obviously an intentional choice to do something more stripped back and raw, but I don't think it fits them.

It's a shame, because Lightning Strikes Twice is easily one of the best melodic rock albums of the 2000s. Aside from the last track, that album is just perfect. I recall reading that Frontiers wanted them to do something similar to After the Rain. That obviously wasn't the case on this album. Not that I want them to just repeat the same thing over, but they're so good at that style.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 16, 2015, 02:35:44 AM
I just checked out the album on Spotify. I really like Back in the Day, and You and Me stands out as a good rocker, but the rest is a bit of a letdown. It's not as layered and polished as Lightning Strikes Twice. It's obviously an intentional choice to do something more stripped back and raw, but I don't think it fits them.

It's a shame, because Lightning Strikes Twice is easily one of the best melodic rock albums of the 2000s. Aside from the last track, that album is just perfect. I recall reading that Frontiers wanted them to do something similar to After the Rain. That obviously wasn't the case on this album. Not that I want them to just repeat the same thing over, but they're so good at that style.

I agree with all of this. It was an ok listen but it sounds unfinished and needs the same care and attention that was put into the last one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2015, 03:48:39 AM
I have After the Rain, that's a good disc, but I've never listened to Lightning.  I should check that out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 17, 2015, 03:53:36 AM
I'm not sure if it would be your kind of thing (then again, I wouldn't think After The Rain would be either), but it's a really strong album, and worth taking a listen to.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2015, 04:58:54 AM
Don't get me wrong, After the Rain was one of those cheap albums I picked up, mainly cause it has Brett Garsed.  I didn't expect much, but was pleastantly surprised.  But not one of my fav melodic rock albums or anything.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2015, 05:22:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=E7mvFvqtslc

16 minute sampler of the new Ten.  Production still sounds horrid like the first song, but the material hear actually sounds pretty solid, same level as Albion by the sounds of it.  Gonna get it for sure.  Just wish the production was better.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 19, 2015, 05:55:36 AM
So, mr.com gave the new Ten a 92% and praises the excellent production.  We will see.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on May 19, 2015, 06:08:31 AM
I don't know why you guys bother with that website.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 19, 2015, 06:08:32 AM
92% is barely a pass by mr.com standards. It must really suck. :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 19, 2015, 06:42:34 AM
I don't know why you guys bother with that website.

Just a go to website every day.  Don't spend time, just look to see if there is any news I'm interested in.

92% is barely a pass by mr.com standards. It must really suck. :P

Yeah, that's like a 60%on a normal scale.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 19, 2015, 11:29:26 AM
Is that website biased or are they getting paid by record companies.  Ive never really checked it out, but it sounds like constant good reviews
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 19, 2015, 03:44:24 PM
Is that website biased or are they getting paid by record companies.  Ive never really checked it out, but it sounds like constant good reviews

I think they are sponsored by the record company or something.  There's definitely some connection.  Their reviews use to have merit though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 19, 2015, 08:43:49 PM
There definitely has to be a connection, even if it's just to keep getting promo copies for review. The only bad reviews they give are to albums that deviate from the narrow melodic rock niche, like straight up rock stuff that's probably from other record labels.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 19, 2015, 08:54:23 PM
I find it hard to judge .I've known Andrew for longer than the site has even been in existence and have always found him to be a stickler for integrity and standards in all areas.   I have as much fun with his review scores as anyone but I would like to think he's just lost the ability to be objective - not through financial inducement but just has the blinkers on when it comes to a certain niche which seems very stale to many of us.   And it's pretty clear to me that most of the patrons of his site share his opinions , so it's not as if he's standing out in that regard.

He has always been on the high side with review scores.I do remember once he gave something Lukather was involved in a low score and Luke didn't speak to him for a while.  He must be under plenty of pressure from his artist contacts/friends and sponsors.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 19, 2015, 08:59:12 PM
Imagine how pissed off the record companies and musicians would be if this thread reviewed them. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 19, 2015, 09:06:15 PM
The official melodic rock/AOR thread , brought to you by Frontiers  :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 20, 2015, 02:39:51 AM
I think it is extremely hard to stay really independent when running such a site. Not only for financial reasons but you have to have good connections, you have to get information earlier than others, you have to get promo copies etc. If you piss off too much people from the melodic rock scene, you simply cannot make a living running such a site.

That said, I don't think that Andrew is getting paid by record companies for his reviews. He seems to only like a certain kind of melodic rock and if a record hits this spot, it is going to get high scores, no matter how good or bad it really is. Other records, that don't fit into his kinda narrow niche are not going to score good, regardless of quality. At least that's my impression.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2015, 06:17:24 AM
I do remember once he gave something Lukather was involved in a low score and Luke didn't speak to him for a while.

That's absurd.


Imagine how pissed off the record companies and musicians would be if this thread reviewed them. :lol

haha, especailly over the last few months.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 20, 2015, 09:37:58 AM
Funnily enough just as we're chatting about this ,it appears there's been some sort of bust up between Andrew and Frontiers.  This will be interesting.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2015, 04:23:46 PM
Funnily enough just as we're chatting about this ,it appears there's been some sort of bust up between Andrew and Frontiers.  This will be interesting.

Wow.  I wonder what over.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 20, 2015, 05:20:44 PM
I have no idea really but my guess would be he's trodden on some toes trying to sign artists to/over promote artists on his own label.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2015, 08:37:33 PM
I have no idea really but my guess would be he's trodden on some toes trying to sign artists to/over promote artists on his own label.

All of those new ones he's been pimping lately I haven't even bothered to check out anyway.  There's even one with David Readman but couldn't be assed looking into it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 20, 2015, 09:58:05 PM
Funnily enough just as we're chatting about this ,it appears there's been some sort of bust up between Andrew and Frontiers.  This will be interesting.

Wow.  I wonder what over.

He probably gave an album only 91% or something.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2015, 12:38:03 AM
This from Andrew

The situation is fairly simple. Frontiers cut their MR advertising deal by a margin of 85%.
The new offer was such that it wouldn't have even covered bandwidth costs, let alone my time.
I had no choice but to decline.

The issue of MRR (edit: Andrew's label) did get raised, they do feel as if I'm in competition with them, but that hasn't previously been an issue raised since starting the label.

The final comment was that they do not feel web advertising matters anymore.



So I was partly right - I think the 1st and 3rd paras have more to do with the 2nd than he's letting on.  That's a shame but I suppose if he continues to review their stuff (as he must if the site is to have any cred) and the 90%+ scores keep coming , then we'll know it's just him  :lol  If he makes the mistake of not carrying news/reviews relating to Frontiers then I'd say he's finished.

The other interesting comment was that he's also fallen out with (more minor label) Escape as he refuses to cover anything to do with Tommy Denander who is one of their artists.  I can sort of understand that as , although Tommy puts out some good stuff, he is a fair tosser and supposedly he's upset a lot of people in the industry in recent times.  That's aside from him claiming to have played with artists who have barely met him.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 21, 2015, 12:56:20 AM
Well that sorta confirms what we suspected. It will be interesting to see if we now get more critical reviews, or if he tries to maintain good reviews to keep the option open in future.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 21, 2015, 05:37:52 AM
At the end of the day, this doesn't really make a difference to anything for us I'd say.  Perhaps more realistic reviews and perhaps will have to search elsewhere for up and coming melodic rock.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 21, 2015, 05:49:20 AM
New HOL song.  Quite AOR, but really nice.  Great Jimi solo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZC8qyuQxs4
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 21, 2015, 08:57:39 PM
Final Freefall 2 guest list;

TONY MARTIN (ex- Black Sabbath),
JOE LYNN TURNER (ex- Rainbow ex-Deep Purple)
JORN LANDE
TONY HARNELL (Skid Row, Starbreaker ex TNT)
RICK ALTZI (Masterplan)
JAKOB SAMUEL (The Poodles),
HARRY HESS (Harem Scarem),
REBECCA DE LA MOTTE
DAVID READMAN (Pink Cream 69)
MAGNUS KALRSSON

Very very solid.  Although this Rebecca chick, whoever the hell she is better be good.  Hopefully she doesn't put a dent in this amazing lineup.  She definitely is out of place on that list.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 21, 2015, 09:03:10 PM
Magnus has been raving about her and , unlike Tolkki's choice,  she's no De La Hotte - so I'm assuming she's there because she does have an amazing voice.  Great lineup if the songs are there.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 21, 2015, 09:07:35 PM
Magnus has been raving about here and , unlike Tolkki's choice,  she's no De La Hotte - so I'm assuming she's there because she does have an amazing voice.  Great lineup if the songs are there.

I did think that when I saw her picture.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 21, 2015, 11:23:37 PM
I'm interested in hearing Martin and Hess on this one
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2015, 06:33:50 AM
Tony Martin is definitely the singer I'm most excited about with this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on May 22, 2015, 06:35:22 AM
Will definitely get this one, hopefully Karlsson got really good songs for this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2015, 06:38:46 AM
Gord lord, the changes at mr.com are instant.

Tom Cochrane new album - 65%
Some band called Red Monday - 85%
New live Magnum - 88%

Outrageous!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on May 22, 2015, 06:48:13 AM
Gord lord, the changes at mr.com are instant.

Tom Cochrane new album - 65%

This must be the lowest ranking he ever gave? :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 22, 2015, 06:55:27 AM
I'm not familiar with those. Are they albums they would normally have given high scores to?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 22, 2015, 09:01:10 AM
Is that the canadian Tom Cochrane from red rider?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2015, 03:19:57 PM
I'm not familiar with those. Are they albums they would normally have given high scores to?

Probably not.  I know the last few Magnum he has rated a bit lower, so they are probably on par, still funny.

Is that the canadian Tom Cochrane from red rider?

Isn't it the Life is A Highway bloke?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 22, 2015, 04:02:08 PM
Yes Life is a Highway guy.

Still played in Canada very often
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2015, 05:04:52 AM
No shit.  That one song was all we know of him over here.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 24, 2015, 07:41:34 AM
I'm sure you've heard "lunatic fringe" by his band red rider

Another song that's still played often
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on May 24, 2015, 11:32:00 AM
I'm sure you've heard "lunatic fringe" by his band red rider

Another song that's still played often

I sampled that album a while back. Lunatic Fringe is very out of place. The rest of the album isn't very good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2015, 05:02:05 PM
Doesn't ring a bell, but I'll youtube it later.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 26, 2015, 05:54:32 AM
I don't think this lower ratings have anything to do with the retreat/ban of Frontiers.

For the Cochrane rating you just have to read the review. It's not melodic rock, it's blues, country etc. so it doesn't fit his tastes.
And Magnum normally scores in the 90+ region, but this is a live album with really nothing new to it and for that 88% is more than enough.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: yorost on May 26, 2015, 12:53:08 PM
I find it hard to judge .I've known Andrew for longer than the site has even been in existence and have always found him to be a stickler for integrity and standards in all areas.   I have as much fun with his review scores as anyone but I would like to think he's just lost the ability to be objective - not through financial inducement but just has the blinkers on when it comes to a certain niche which seems very stale to many of us.   And it's pretty clear to me that most of the patrons of his site share his opinions , so it's not as if he's standing out in that regard.

He has always been on the high side with review scores.I do remember once he gave something Lukather was involved in a low score and Luke didn't speak to him for a while.  He must be under plenty of pressure from his artist contacts/friends and sponsors.
He's had that problem multiple times over the years. Def Leppard loved him when he praised them then shunned him when he was critical of them doing a covers album. Even around when he was trying to transition the site to a full time job I recall commentary on labels pulling or threatening to pull advertising money over poor scores. Being a mixture of news, reviews, and promoter is tough.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2015, 09:56:09 PM
I just had my first listen to the new TEN album - Isla Del Muerta.

At this point I think it's weaker than Albion . I was told to expect this to be the more hard rocking twin of Albion as The Name of the Rose was to X.    In theory it should sound almost the same as Albion seeing it was written and recorded in the same sessions but to me it's missing an edge that Albion and , much more so , stuff like Spellbound and The Name of the Rose had.  You would think with 3 freakin guitarists that they could get the guitar sound up front enough but no..........it's so compressed that it loses all its edge and pushes Gary's voice too far to the front.  That means that for me the ballads like "This Love" sound the best as that sort of "back seat" guitar sound fits better.  Add some bite to the rhythm guitars and I think this album could rate at least 5 points higher.   Songs like Acquiesce and The Dragon and St George could have been standouts but instead we get the clear vocal melodies on top of the usual "wall of mud" production and this just makes it sound like Ten by the numbers.  A shame.   The highlight for me was the guitar solo in Angel of Darkness - unfortunately not one of the stronger tracks.

I would also say that the vocal melodies in the Ten choruses are getting very samey. But when you release two full studio albums in 6 months you would have to be in a rare zone of form for it to be otherwise.

I'll give it 77%  (Albion was mid 80s)

I feel like a real Scrooge lately with the opinions I'm giving on albums but it is what it is.  it's all the same mostly - decent but nothing special.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 27, 2015, 07:11:37 AM
It's a shame that once again the production plays a big part in the quality of an album, it's getting bad. 

Albion could be a top 3 Ten album for me, I still spin it regulary.  A shame with this one as I thought the production on Albion was quite acceptable.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 27, 2015, 07:18:46 AM
I'll have to go back and spin Albion again soon but I'm pretty sure I didn't criticise its production - weird when you think that this is essentially a double album staggered across a few months.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 27, 2015, 07:26:38 AM
I don't think you did either.  The production for a newer album is fine, and since they were obviously created together, I would have expected the same for this one, a shame.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on May 27, 2015, 07:47:23 AM
Caught the second half of the Quiet Riot Rock Doc.  Now I need to see it fully.  Not bad.  They showed a bit of them playing live at M3 in 2012.  Not bad at all even though since then, they got rid of that singer.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 27, 2015, 02:39:26 PM
Well if the new Te n doesn't do it for you maybe the Serpentine album will. Its about as close to being Ten as its possible to be. Produced by Gary Hughes too but sounds ok. Not heard Isla DE Muerta yet but he needs a producer. Can' t think why a band would ask him to produce because his ears can't be up to much.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 27, 2015, 03:14:03 PM
I want to check out that new Serpentine.  I'm sure as I said before that Gary at least wrote that lead song too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2015, 04:52:35 AM
Magnus has finished Freefall 2 recording and is starting mixing soon.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 31, 2015, 09:42:30 AM
Magnus has finished Freefall 2 recording and is starting mixing soon.

Sweet. That should be a fall release I would think. Hopefully around the time of the new Stryper and Saxon
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 31, 2015, 02:59:52 PM
Magnus has finished Freefall 2 recording and is starting mixing soon.
I think I've listened to the first one once since I bought it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2015, 04:37:18 PM
Magnus has finished Freefall 2 recording and is starting mixing soon.
I think I've listened to the first one once since I bought it.

You didn't like it?  We all rated it pretty high.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 31, 2015, 04:45:11 PM
Maybe I'll pull it out again. Seriously, I've only listened to it once. I'm not big on a different singer on every song kind of thing, but you guys were so raving about it, I felt like I was missing out on something.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 31, 2015, 04:55:49 PM
Definitely give it another spin man.  I know what you mean about having a singer on every different song.  I'm not big into that either, but the album is so killer, it's not an issue.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 31, 2015, 06:35:24 PM
Maybe I'll pull it out again. Seriously, I've only listened to it once. I'm not big on a different singer on every song kind of thing, but you guys were so raving about it, I felt like I was missing out on something.

I was the same tbh - I thought it was solid but nothing really wowed me.  I also tend to rate the multi-vocalist albums (incl Avantasia etc...) lower than most.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 01, 2015, 02:06:45 AM
Well Uncle Scrooge is about to shock everyone and praise a new release from one of the big boys of melodic rock.

I have just finished my first listen to the new House of Lords and ,although they've lost much of the atmosphere of classics like the debut and Demons Down ,this is a very strong release.  Unfortunately it's an album of two halves - the second half is a bit by the numbers/dialed in (but still solid) but the first half is very strong.  Not unique enough to be classic but enough going on to really get me rocking out and ........as rarely happens these days .........wanting a 2nd spin right away.

The only other criticism - if I'm being real tough - is that James' voice is wearing a bit with the high stuff and the use of his missus (Robin Beck) on backgrounds sounds a bit out of place at times.

I rate it 84%
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 01, 2015, 05:15:03 AM
Good rating and looking forward to this one too.  I really like what I've heard from it.  Sounds like it's a big step up from the last one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 01, 2015, 09:51:11 AM
Continues the "every other album is a good one" theory then!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 02, 2015, 10:27:30 PM
Fans of Kelly Keeling - one of the more unique voices around - might want to keep any eye out for this.

https://youtu.be/f0-fET4ao5c

Unfortunately it's very much the usual suspects on board (DelVecchio ,Sall etc...) and a familiar sound , but it could be alright.  I'll check it out when it's released but I think I'll likely just stick to Baton Rouge when I want to hear Kelly.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2015, 04:54:36 AM
Fans of Kelly Keeling - one of the more unique voices around - might want to keep any eye out for this.

https://youtu.be/f0-fET4ao5c

Unfortunately it's very much the usual suspects on board (DelVecchio ,Sall etc...) and a familiar sound , but it could be alright.  I'll check it out when it's released but I think I'll likely just stick to Baton Rouge when I want to hear Kelly.

This sounds really good.

When I saw the name I thought it was the Night Ranger drummer.  I have no idea who this guy is.  Good voice though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 03, 2015, 05:57:22 AM
He was very solid on Michael Schenker's Unforgiven.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 03, 2015, 06:20:34 AM
Definitely familiar sounding, but I didn't mind it at all. I'm surprised me and wolfking have a similar opinion on something for once. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2015, 04:25:27 PM
Definitely familiar sounding, but I didn't mind it at all. I'm surprised me and wolfking have a similar opinion on something for once. :lol

It's a festivus miracle!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 03, 2015, 10:21:37 PM
Definitely familiar sounding, but I didn't mind it at all. I'm surprised me and wolfking have a similar opinion on something for once. :lol

It's a festivus miracle!

Please, no feats of strength!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2015, 10:33:03 PM
haha.

Seriously, who is this Keeling guy?  He done anything worthwhile checking out?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 04, 2015, 05:26:37 AM
haha.

Seriously, who is this Keeling guy?  He done anything worthwhile checking out?
Yes. He sang on Michael Schenker's Unforgiven album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 04, 2015, 05:27:27 AM
haha.

Seriously, who is this Keeling guy?  He done anything worthwhile checking out?

As I mentioned above Baton Rouge was his main gig but he's appeared on albums by many others including Norum, Blue Murder , MSG.    Baton Rouge was mostly good - it involved Jack Ponti so sounds a bit like Babylon AD if that means anything.    The albums he did with Norum were just okay , but the opening track on the first album (Resurrection Time) is an old fave of mine.  Unfortunately it was downhill from there.   And the second Blue Murder album is pretty average.

He has also done plenty of stuff with Carmine Appice which is a bit hit and miss.  The album he did with King Kobra is pretty crap if memory serves correct.

I would probably try the MSG , Norum and Baton Rouge.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 04, 2015, 12:27:50 PM
Baton Rouge were pretty good. He sang on the Red Zone Rider album with Vinnie Moore that I keep trying to convince you is great  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2015, 04:05:49 PM
Thanks Tim and Brent, I'll have a look at those.

Paul, I did listen to that RZR album, but really did nothing for me.  I'll have another listen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 04, 2015, 10:28:06 PM
Anyone looking for heavy dose of 80's melodic rock could do worse than check out the new album by Station that I mentioned in the album thread.   After the first couple of tracks I was thinking it was just too retro/cliche but the quality improves and by the end I was quite enjoying it and tolerating the cringe factor.

I am trying to think of something to compare it to - it's fairly wimpy but the guy can really wail and the guitar work is good. Perhaps the wimpy side of Steelheart crossed with the good time feel of early Danger Danger and the odd Journey-ish moment.   I'm sure there's a better comparison but I've been neglecting this style lately and I'm struggling for a good match.  It's 15 tracks long with a few duds but over all it's very competent stuff. 

This isn't one of my favourite songs and is mid range in terms of heaviness on the album but gives an idea of the strength of his voice while on cruise control.  Good young band.

https://youtu.be/pIceQDN6OKk
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2015, 10:36:23 PM
Err, didn't do it for me to be honest Brent, and the Whitesnake verses were pretty blatant to me.  Too generic for me at the moment.

The band name just makes me think of this;

(https://brianorndorf.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ee7b6428833014e89ef173a970d-800wi)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 04, 2015, 10:38:24 PM
 :lol  After all the recent melodic metal releases they almost sound fresh to me  :)   Oh well......the album is quite varied and like I said - not my fave track but it doesn't surprise me that you're not into it. Can't say that I heard much Whitesnake in it.............more Crazy Lixx or something like that.  I have a few things up my sleeve that I know you'll love but I'm saving them for Tim's roulette  :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2015, 10:44:12 PM
The verse reminded me of Still of the Night, especially the one after the scream.

You can share the others, we only need to send Winger in his roulette, every member, for every round.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 04, 2015, 10:48:05 PM
You got me - they are Winger demos  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 04, 2015, 10:48:24 PM
The band name just makes me think of this;

(https://brianorndorf.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ee7b6428833014e89ef173a970d-800wi)

You say that as if it's a negative. :lol

Cozmo linked me to some Station a little while ago, and I think I skimmed the album on Spotify. It wasn't bad, but didn't grab me for a repeat listen yet. I'm on the fence about the singer.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2015, 10:51:35 PM
I'm on the fence about the singer.

I think this was my biggest issue.  Didn't really rate him, but he can sing okay. 

Also, love that movie, absolute classic.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 04, 2015, 10:57:18 PM
Also, love that movie, absolute classic.  :lol

:tup

I'm very fussy with singers, and while I like the sound of his voice, he's not the strongest singer in terms of changing pitch.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 04, 2015, 11:01:57 PM
I like the singer and think he has pretty amazing power across the range actually............in the song No Way Out he does a full on Steelheart wail into the solo.  Not many singers could even attempt that.

I always fail when I mention bands in this thread haha - losing my touch with this style I think. Best stick to new metal bands :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2015, 09:27:50 AM
Any Crown of Thorns fans here?   I'll try and have a listen to the new Beauvoir/Free in the next day or two and see if it stacks up to their better stuff (Debut, Lost Cathedral)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 05, 2015, 09:39:15 AM
Never heard of them?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2015, 09:45:06 AM
You're in the wrong thread again man  ;D

How can I use the Six Degree of Separation to get Crown of Thorns into terms Mr TAC would understand?

Crown of Thorns has a singer -  the singer is Jean Beauvoir -  Jean played bass on and co-wrote  Thrills In The Night, Who Wants To Be Lonely and Uh! All Night from KISS' Animalize and Asylum albums.

 ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 05, 2015, 09:48:22 AM
Wasn't he in the Plasmatics as well?

I wandered over here after getting lost in the damned Hard Rock thread. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2015, 09:50:21 AM


Wasn't he in the Plasmatics as well?


Yes he was - he had a solo album that did okay too (Drums Along The Mohawk). Once you see him you never forget him (black guy with a blonde mohawk)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on June 05, 2015, 02:29:59 PM
Never heard of them?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 05, 2015, 04:03:07 PM
Love the first CoT album but things got patchy after that. Production got worse too. Hoping for good things from this new one.

The new Trixter is due soon too. Hoping for good things there too. Last one suffered in the production/ mix.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2015, 04:38:53 PM
I own one COT thorns album but I remember it didn't do much for me.  I'll have to get it out and check it out again.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2015, 07:39:26 PM
I own one COT thorns album but I remember it didn't do much for me.  I'll have to get it out and check it out again.

IMHO the debut s/t and Lost Cathedral are head and shoulders above the rest , so bear that in mind.

New Degreed........

https://youtu.be/hhFdHtHXGAg

They've never done much for me and this new song doesn't change things.  It has that "modern rock" vibe that grates on me.

I expect to get  a listen to the new Trixter over the weekend - it's getting great reviews but I'll need to try and turn down my sensitivity to cringe factor as their most recent stuff is just a bit too retro for me.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 08, 2015, 01:23:31 PM
Did we talk about the Age Sten Nilsen's Ammunition album when it came out? PLayed it yesterday and apart from the crap opening track I thought it was pretty good.

Just listening to the Beauvoir Free album and I'm liking it. Its got more of a 70s rock vibe than Crown Of Thorns but pretty solid so far. Trixter up next.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 08, 2015, 04:12:13 PM
Did we talk about the Age Sten Nilsen's Ammunition album when it came out? PLayed it yesterday and apart from the crap opening track I thought it was pretty good.

Just listening to the Beauvoir Free album and I'm liking it. Its got more of a 70s rock vibe than Crown Of Thorns but pretty solid so far. Trixter up next.

I am pretty sure we talked about the Ammunition album- I agree about the opening track (or two) , but still reckon there's a few more fillers on it.  Another solid album that seems less solid by dragging it out to 13 tracks IMHO.

I haven't got around to the Beauvoir or Trixter as yet.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 08, 2015, 04:14:49 PM
Do people still listen to Trixter? Did they ever? :D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 08, 2015, 04:19:54 PM
Do people still listen to Trixter? Did they ever? :D

Would you believe me if I said that I was  waiting for that one?  :lol   Their debut was actually pretty damn good IMO for a bunch of teenagers.  Their new one is getting all sorts of great reviews but I expect that I'm going to struggle with them sounding much the same at 50yo.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 08, 2015, 04:33:53 PM
I actually saw them while they way back when. Opened for Rik Emmett.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2015, 04:55:02 PM
I didn't care for what I've heard from them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 08, 2015, 05:10:20 PM
Do people still listen to Trixter? Did they ever? :D

Would you believe me if I said that I was  waiting for that one?  :lol   Their debut was actually pretty damn good IMO for a bunch of teenagers.  Their new one is getting all sorts of great reviews but I expect that I'm going to struggle with them sounding much the same at 50yo.
They weren't on my radar at all back in the day. I heard Hear! a few years ago and loved it. The first album isn't that great to me. I didn't like the dry production of the last one though it had some good songs. Just played the new one and enjoyed it. Will give it another go in the car tomorrow. Probably enjoyed it more than the beaviorfree. It has a modern sounding production but doesn't suffer for it too much. steve brown has an excellent voice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on June 08, 2015, 07:03:09 PM
I didn't care for what I've heard from them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 09, 2015, 12:30:27 AM
Speaking of blasts from the past there's a new Bulletboys I can check out later too if I get time (doubtful)..........I'm assuming it's just Torien and a backing band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on June 09, 2015, 03:58:54 AM
I thought the debut from Bulletboys was pretty decent.  Would never check out anything new from them though
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 09, 2015, 09:48:56 AM
New Tolkki project video - even with the sound down and the hot chick , this cannot be saved  :lol   One of Frontiers' worst ever projects and videos to boot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l8MnwcPoCs&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 09, 2015, 10:10:49 AM
I didn't even bother watching it earlier, but those are some piss weak vocals. No comment on the rest, as I didn't have the video playing for long enough. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 09, 2015, 01:31:44 PM
I thought the debut from Bulletboys was pretty decent.  Would never check out anything new from them though

I liked the first one at the time but the follow up, Freakshow was awful. Haven't heard a note from them since but might just give it a Spotify - you never know.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 09, 2015, 03:24:14 PM
New Tolkki project video - even with the sound down and the hot chick , this cannot be saved  :lol   One of Frontiers' worst ever projects and videos to boot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l8MnwcPoCs&feature=youtu.be

Absolute fucking garbage.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on June 09, 2015, 04:40:11 PM
New Tolkki project video - even with the sound down and the hot chick , this cannot be saved  :lol   One of Frontiers' worst ever projects and videos to boot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l8MnwcPoCs&feature=youtu.be

Absolute fucking garbage.

Lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 11, 2015, 05:08:22 AM
New Newman album coming this year.  Pretty pointless snippit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=er7EdfAqMcw
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 11, 2015, 09:06:31 PM
New Tolkki project video - even with the sound down and the hot chick , this cannot be saved  :lol   One of Frontiers' worst ever projects and videos to boot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l8MnwcPoCs&feature=youtu.be

Absolute fucking garbage.

Tolkki is a cancer to any project he writes.  The two minutes I listened to this were drier than a popcorn fart.  Anything with him is a guaranteed non-purchase for me now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 11, 2015, 09:47:05 PM
It is hard to believe that a guy responsible for an album in my Top 50 is churning out this crap - although props for taste in women I suppose.  I get the feeling he fancies himself as a modern day Desmond Child or something .
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on June 11, 2015, 09:53:15 PM
It's been more than a decade since he wrote something that wasn't completely bland, hasn't it? I've lost all hope that he will ever release something original ever again.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on June 12, 2015, 01:23:53 AM
New Newman album coming this year.  Pretty pointless snippit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=er7EdfAqMcw

What instrument does Wayne Knight play?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 12, 2015, 03:40:46 PM
It is hard to believe that a guy responsible for an album in my Top 50 is churning out this crap - although props for taste in women I suppose.  I get the feeling he fancies himself as a modern day Desmond Child or something .

Agree.  I find it hard to believe as Chad said that anything he does now is an instant non purchase, and that's quite the case.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 12, 2015, 03:42:07 PM
New Newman album coming this year.  Pretty pointless snippit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=er7EdfAqMcw

What instrument does Wayne Knight play?

 :rollin

He plays guitar and sings.  The album Siren is a great slab of AOR.  Great songs, nothing mindblowing but good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 17, 2015, 05:05:20 AM
Paul..........an answer to your question re my thoughts on the new Trixter.

I think it's okay - probably better than I expected.  I was right to be concerned when I saw song titles like Rocking To The Edge of the Night and Crash That Party - I thought the first few tracks were weak/too cliche , but it picked up from there into a solid album with some more mature song writing and a couple of very good tracks.

I would give it around 75% - a bit more if you allow the bonus tracks (although Always a Victim ain't a great choice to do acoustically if you ask me).  To me it's got a bit of Danger Danger's Revolve about it but just not near as good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 17, 2015, 07:04:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyC0WBRe4SE

Another piece of shit from that new Tolkki album.  Her vocals are really fucking bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 17, 2015, 07:06:38 AM
Yeah, those vocals were weak, and those melodies are awful, both due to writing and performance. They need to choose female singers based on talent, instead of whether they'll make a good album cover.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 17, 2015, 07:06:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyC0WBRe4SE

Another piece of shit from that new Tolkki album.  Her vocals are really fucking bad.

Seriously Kade - if there's no video of her prancing around , then don't bother. I clicked on that only for a look :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 17, 2015, 07:09:19 AM
Sorry brother.  :'(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 17, 2015, 07:11:20 AM
Saw this on mr.com.  A band featuring the Wig Wam singer, Erik and Robbin from Eclipse and Hal Patino.

Not sure if you pimped them Bretn as looks like the album came out at the start of the year.  Generic as fuck and pretty much just sounds like Eclipse, but I might check the album out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7caV9mxekI
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 17, 2015, 07:14:17 AM
It was mentioned by me but there weren't no pimpin' goin' on ma homey  ;D

We didn't all agree on it.  I gave it 71% and thought it was just okay - if memory serves correct Paul thought it was much better than that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 17, 2015, 09:49:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyC0WBRe4SE

Another piece of shit from that new Tolkki album.  Her vocals are really fucking bad.

Why even bother.  I'm not wasting my time with anything he's involved in writing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 17, 2015, 03:22:01 PM
It was mentioned by me but there weren't no pimpin' goin' on ma homey  ;D

We didn't all agree on it.  I gave it 71% and thought it was just okay - if memory serves correct Paul thought it was much better than that.

Yeah after I posted this, I checked out another song and it was pretty rubbish.

Nothing changed on the mr.com front then, it got a 95%.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyC0WBRe4SE

Another piece of shit from that new Tolkki album.  Her vocals are really fucking bad.

Why even bother.  I'm not wasting my time with anything he's involved in writing.

I don't understand why Frontiers are happy to keep paying him with this shit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 18, 2015, 06:06:00 AM
Outside of a few tracks on their debut I have never been a big fan of the Bulletboys but I thought I would check out their new album as it's getting plenty of positive press.  It's a pleasant album if you feel like some raw, laid back bluesy rock and Torien can still sing,  but that's about it.  At least it doesn't sound like everything else ....75%
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 18, 2015, 07:05:36 AM
Never was much of a fan of them... but I did see them with Poison and Slaughter back in the day.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 18, 2015, 10:23:25 AM
Just listening to the Beauvoir Free album and I'm liking it. Its got more of a 70s rock vibe than Crown Of Thorns but pretty solid so far.

Solid ,as you say.  I have always liked Jean's voice - very unique to have a black guy singing that style and so he's quite unique.  Decent songs with a couple of standouts.  Not up there with the debut CoT or Lost Cathedral but one of their better efforts.   I often find myself wishing for a decent lead player when I listen to Micki Free.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2015, 05:33:38 AM
This new Tolkki and hot chick album could possibly be the worst album of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQRGMNbmzgI
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 24, 2015, 05:35:44 AM
Isn't that the one we bagged on a few days ago? I can't even keep track any more. It all just blurs together. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on June 24, 2015, 05:37:42 AM
I don't listen to the Tolkki songs when they're posted anymore.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2015, 05:38:06 AM
Yeah that's the one.  I think this is the third song released from it.  It's just garbage.  Tolkki can't even be bothered to add some guitar solos anymore, and the vocals are just horrid.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2015, 05:39:02 AM
I don't listen to the Tolkki songs when they're posted anymore.

I don't blame you, I should be reported for spam or inappropriate posts.  :lol

I listened to the whole thing and wanted my five minutes back, just trash.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 24, 2015, 06:09:11 AM
I didn't even make it past 90 seconds on the first track.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 24, 2015, 06:14:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyC0WBRe4SE

Another piece of shit from that new Tolkki album.  Her vocals are really fucking bad.

Seriously Kade - if there's no video of her prancing around , then don't bother. I clicked on that only for a look :biggrin:

Two strikes  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 24, 2015, 02:25:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyC0WBRe4SE

Another piece of shit from that new Tolkki album.  Her vocals are really fucking bad.

Seriously Kade - if there's no video of her prancing around , then don't bother. I clicked on that only for a look :biggrin:

Two strikes  :biggrin:

Complete drivel. This is what antipsychotics do to you I guess. He wrote better music when he was crazy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2015, 03:13:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyC0WBRe4SE

Another piece of shit from that new Tolkki album.  Her vocals are really fucking bad.

Seriously Kade - if there's no video of her prancing around , then don't bother. I clicked on that only for a look :biggrin:

Two strikes  :biggrin:

I've learned my lesson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyC0WBRe4SE

Another piece of shit from that new Tolkki album.  Her vocals are really fucking bad.

Seriously Kade - if there's no video of her prancing around , then don't bother. I clicked on that only for a look :biggrin:

Two strikes  :biggrin:

Complete drivel. This is what antipsychotics do to you I guess. He wrote better music when he was crazy.

Indeed he did.  I don't understand why he is so shit these days.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2015, 04:57:31 PM
This new House of Lords isn't bad.  Jimi is on fire and his lead tones are less harsh and sound fantastic.  It's similar to the last one with less heavy moments again and it's a bit of a grower also, but some solid tunes here.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on June 24, 2015, 08:33:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyC0WBRe4SE

Another piece of shit from that new Tolkki album.  Her vocals are really fucking bad.

Seriously Kade - if there's no video of her prancing around , then don't bother. I clicked on that only for a look :biggrin:

Two strikes  :biggrin:

I've learned my lesson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyC0WBRe4SE

Another piece of shit from that new Tolkki album.  Her vocals are really fucking bad.

Seriously Kade - if there's no video of her prancing around , then don't bother. I clicked on that only for a look :biggrin:

Two strikes  :biggrin:

Complete drivel. This is what antipsychotics do to you I guess. He wrote better music when he was crazy.

Indeed he did.  I don't understand why he is so shit these days.

If she took singing lessons, she wouldn't be half bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 25, 2015, 05:11:51 AM
The singing is just excruciating.  Did no one say anything re the vox through the process at all, oh that's right, it's Tolkki, he's off his rocker.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 25, 2015, 05:38:19 AM
This new House of Lords isn't bad.  Jimi is on fire and his lead tones are less harsh and sound fantastic.  It's similar to the last one with less heavy moments again and it's a bit of a grower also, but some solid tunes here.
Yes, another very good one. The melodies are a real standout for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 25, 2015, 05:52:54 AM
I thought the HoL was their best in some time - the first half is quite a bit stronger than the second but there's very little in the way of filler.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 25, 2015, 04:45:04 PM
Seems like they have changed their style quite a bit.  They just have a fresh and different sound.  I wouldn't mind some heavy stuff again, but, it's nicely produced and some great songs on here.  100mph, Call My Bluff, Go to Hell and Another Dawn are my highlights, but yeah nothing really here that would be classed as filler.

I thought the HoL was their best in some time - the first half is quite a bit stronger than the second but there's very little in the way of filler.

Indeed.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2015, 07:13:55 PM
New Serpentine is pretty solid.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2015, 04:59:24 AM
New Praying Mantis;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOl5C-eL1zI

I like this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 01, 2015, 05:03:11 AM
Didn't realize they were still making new music

Sounds good
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 01, 2015, 05:09:34 AM
New Praying Mantis;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOl5C-eL1zI

I like this.

Not listened yet but the last one was awesome.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 03, 2015, 09:28:08 PM
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Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on July 03, 2015, 11:57:24 PM
I think the last Royal Hunt album I bought was Fear with John West on vox -  the last album got some strong reviews but I found over time that they were very prone to having much of their material sound the same.   
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on July 04, 2015, 12:14:23 AM
Yeah I am the same, since JW left I haven't bothered.
Seems like its the same old song album after album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 04, 2015, 04:21:58 AM
I really liked X in that it was far more guitar driven than keyboards.  Probably their only album as such.  I'll give it a spin, but RH hasn't never been an automatic buy for me.  I only got into them just before X was released.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 04, 2015, 06:52:39 AM
I think the last Royal Hunt album I bought was Fear with John West on vox -  the last album got some strong reviews but I found over time that they were very prone to having much of their material sound the same.

Fear was a Lowdz top 50 album. Not been much to write home abbout since. They're never terrible but seldom anything standout. And I prefer JW's voice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 05, 2015, 04:27:59 AM
Not big on a lot of their past albums but the last one was shit.  I liked what they did with Mark Boals though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on July 10, 2015, 01:26:28 PM
New Royal Hunt

https://youtu.be/JNQ9XbARa0s

It might just be me but I hear a bit of Message To God in this , which was one of my big faves as a kid.  Decent track for them , but nothing fresh.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 10, 2015, 01:34:35 PM
That's a by the numbers RH riff. And I really can't stand the vocals. Worst RH singer. Song is ok.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 10, 2015, 02:24:39 PM
That's a by the numbers RH riff. And I really can't stand the vocals. Worst RH singer. Song is ok.

This so much.  DC is such a good vocalist - his early RH work, solo, Silent Force, Amaran's Plight.  What the fuck are he and Anderson doing with his vocals here??  It's terrible.  He's got this twang in his enunciation that is just awful.  Is he getting worse with age, or is it just some intentional effect/style he's actually trying to go for?  If the rest of the album is like this, I don't see me getting it.

Give me early 00s DC anytime.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 10, 2015, 02:39:04 PM
New Royal Hunt

https://youtu.be/JNQ9XbARa0s

It might just be me but I hear a bit of Message To God in this , which was one of my big faves as a kid.  Decent track for them , but nothing fresh.

I don't like it.  I turned it off 2 minutes in
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2015, 03:26:30 PM
I thought it was alright, but nothing special at all.  Probably wouldn't check the album out though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 11, 2015, 01:54:00 AM
That's a by the numbers RH riff. And I really can't stand the vocals. Worst RH singer. Song is ok.

This so much.  DC is such a good vocalist - his early RH work, solo, Silent Force, Amaran's Plight.  What the fuck are he and Anderson doing with his vocals here??  It's terrible.  He's got this twang in his enunciation that is just awful.  Is he getting worse with age, or is it just some intentional effect/style he's actually trying to go for?  If the rest of the album is like this, I don't see me getting it.

Give me early 00s DC anytime.

He sounded fine when he went high, just those verses were bloody awful.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 11, 2015, 08:19:26 AM
That's a by the numbers RH riff. And I really can't stand the vocals. Worst RH singer. Song is ok.

This so much.  DC is such a good vocalist - his early RH work, solo, Silent Force, Amaran's Plight.  What the fuck are he and Anderson doing with his vocals here??  It's terrible.  He's got this twang in his enunciation that is just awful.  Is he getting worse with age, or is it just some intentional effect/style he's actually trying to go for?  If the rest of the album is like this, I don't see me getting it.

Give me early 00s DC anytime.

He sounded fine when he went high, just those verses were bloody awful.

Agreed... there was one scream towards the end that reminded me why I (normally) love his vocals.  But for the most part, it was tripe.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 11, 2015, 01:43:13 PM
I re-listened to that RH song.  Its awful
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on July 11, 2015, 04:51:39 PM
The song is pleasant enough, but it's the same type of song that RH have done many times already.
Nothing new, same old same old, so I won't be bothering with them again.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2015, 05:54:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=364W3HE815w

I'm quite liking the sound of this new Praying Mantis.  Straight up AOR but nice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 29, 2015, 07:02:15 AM
I re-listened to that RH song.  Its awful

The new song they released is a lot better. Not enough to inspire me to make a purchase tho.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 29, 2015, 02:27:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=364W3HE815w

I'm quite liking the sound of this new Praying Mantis.  Straight up AOR but nice.

I only casually knew of Praying Mantis as they were a part of the NWOBHM.  Their sound is different then the majority of those bands.  Sounds good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 29, 2015, 02:54:53 PM
Yeah, I heard that the other day. It has such a classic sound to it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 31, 2015, 03:54:23 PM
I'm gonna get that Praying Mantis I think.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 06, 2015, 05:45:17 PM
I am having a listen to the upcoming Royal Hunt at the moment - you know exactly what you're going to get with these guys and if you like their sound it's pretty good.  Not much in the way of memorable songs (maybe a couple) and a rating around high 70's (maybe 80 if a couple of tracks grow on me).

I know a few of you guys thought that their last one was awful but I didn't bother to check that out, so I can't make that comparison.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 07, 2015, 04:15:02 PM
Yeah, I probably won't bother, although I didn't think the new song was as bad as you guys.

I finally got around to getting the new Ten.  Solid, but at the moment, no where near as good as Albion.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 07, 2015, 10:00:18 PM
Yeah, I probably won't bother, although I didn't think the new song was as bad as you guys.

I finally got around to getting the new Ten.  Solid, but at the moment, no where near as good as Albion.

Same for all of the above
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 08, 2015, 03:59:33 PM
Bummer. Both guitarists for Crazy Lixx have left the band, and their future is up in the air. I like em.new Religion was a cracker, and the St was pretty good, if a little samey.
They should get criss Kanye in the band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 08, 2015, 05:42:39 PM

They should get criss Kanye in the band.

Who  :huh:

Both of the albums you mention were really good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on August 08, 2015, 05:45:04 PM
 :facepalm: I should've had a Crazy Lixx round!

Who  :huh:

There's actually someone you've never heard of? ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 08, 2015, 05:46:06 PM
Maybe - but then Paul might be running the kingshmegland spell checker  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 08, 2015, 11:33:14 PM
Bummer. Both guitarists for Crazy Lixx have left the band, and their future is up in the air. I like em.new Religion was a cracker, and the St was pretty good, if a little samey.
They should get criss Kanye in the band.

Damn. New Religion is one of my favourite recent rock albums, and the ST had gotten them back on track and had several great songs. Losing two guitarists is a big hit to the band. What happened?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2015, 04:07:11 AM
Damn, the last one was awesome and I still spin it quite a lot.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 09, 2015, 04:48:20 AM
Bummer. Both guitarists for Crazy Lixx have left the band, and their future is up in the air. I like em.new Religion was a cracker, and the St was pretty good, if a little samey.
They should get criss Kanye in the band.

Who the hell is criss Kanye? I actually typed Chris laney!!! Bloody autocorrect
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2015, 05:06:12 AM
Google brings up nothing music related.

EDIT: Chris Laney, got it haha......I dont know who he is either lol.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 09, 2015, 11:33:04 AM
Google brings up nothing music related.

EDIT: Chris Laney, got it haha......I dont know who he is either lol.

He produced new religion and made a pretty decent melodic rock album called Pure. His voice isn't the strongest but he gets it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2015, 03:43:25 PM
Is that album worth checking out?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 09, 2015, 04:28:45 PM
Yes yes yes.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 09, 2015, 04:29:52 PM
Paul might be running the kingshmegland spell checker  ;D

Yes yes yes.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 09, 2015, 05:09:57 PM
Yes yes yes.

Whoa, alright bro, I'll check it out settle down haha.

Also, I finally got the new Cain's Offering.  Very similar to the first one and wasn't too sure on the first listen, but after a few spins I'm starting to really like it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 09, 2015, 10:42:57 PM
Google brings up nothing music related.

EDIT: Chris Laney, got it haha......I dont know who he is either lol.

He produced new religion and made a pretty decent melodic rock album called Pure. His voice isn't the strongest but he gets it.

And Only Come Out at Night. Between the two of them, several great tracks. I agree his voice isn't the strongest, but it's not bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: amagr on August 10, 2015, 12:56:02 AM
Too bad for Crazy Lixx :/. Do you guys know Crashdiet? They are from Sweden too. Rest in Sleaze is cult album in underground scene.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 10, 2015, 01:02:54 AM
I checked out the Generation Wild album ages ago, and it was fine, but it didn't really grab me. That's the only one I've heard.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 10, 2015, 01:43:07 AM
I have four Crashdiet albums and IMO Generation Wild is a very good album and clearly their best.  Surprise,surprise  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2015, 05:47:39 AM
Wasn't a big fan of what I've heard from them either.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Big Hath on August 10, 2015, 09:05:55 AM
Yes yes yes.

(https://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/257423i450CA8BFA1A9D844/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 10, 2015, 11:22:07 AM
Yes yes yes.
I
(https://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/257423i450CA8BFA1A9D844/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1)

What I should have said
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 17, 2015, 12:56:37 AM
That new Praying Mantis we have been discussing is a very good release.  Great sound, songs and their usual brand of melodic hard rock with some NWOBHM overtones.

After one listen I would rate it around 87%
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2015, 05:22:44 AM
That new Praying Mantis we have been discussing is a very good release.  Great sound, songs and their usual brand of melodic hard rock with some NWOBHM overtones.

After one listen I would rate it around 87%

Wow, what a score.

I'm definitely gonna check it out, the songs I've heard are really good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 17, 2015, 05:45:06 AM
When's the official release date?  The only PM I know is a few songs that (Paul?) submitted in my last roulette.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 17, 2015, 05:46:21 AM
Due Friday I think..............what I heard was a low bitrate review copy and it still sounded great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 17, 2015, 05:48:50 AM
When's the official release date?  The only PM I know is a few songs that (Paul?) submitted in my last roulette.

I am only familiar with their last one too, which was very good.

Due Friday I think..............what I heard was a low bitrate review copy and it still sounded great.

No way we'll be getting it in store, online only this one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2015, 06:59:59 AM
New Newman August 28.  Sounds the same as the last one, solid.  Can't find any full songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U710QMibtt4
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 21, 2015, 11:58:38 AM
Just listened to the new Royal Hunt.  Mediocre is about as good a complement I can give it.  There best years are far, far in the rearview mirror.  The track they initially released was one of the worst, but by no means is this an album worth spinning repeatedly, and certainly not worth my hard earned dollars.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 21, 2015, 12:14:42 PM
Just listened to the new Royal Hunt.  Mediocre is about as good a complement I can give it.  There best years are far, far in the rearview mirror.  The track they initially released was one of the worst, but by no means is this an album worth spinning repeatedly, and certainly not worth my hard earned dollars.

Pretty standard stuff for RH. Really don't like the vocals until he sings in the higher register.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2015, 04:48:56 PM
I won't even both with it to be honest.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on August 21, 2015, 04:50:56 PM
I only heard that first song and thought it was terrible.  Not checking it out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2015, 05:31:55 PM
Big news on Monday according to Karlsson's facebook page.  Freefall 2 info I'm guessing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on August 30, 2015, 06:46:22 PM
Big news on Monday according to Karlsson's facebook page.  Freefall 2 info I'm guessing.

 :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2015, 11:01:31 PM
Really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 04:23:07 PM
https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/news-feed/2015/09/01/magnus-karlssons-freefall-returns-kingdom-rock

(https://www.melodicrock.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_full_node/public/field/image/magnuskarlsson-freefall-kingdomofrock.jpg?itok=FiH83H14)

Swedish axeman MAGNUS KARLSSON is back with the second album of his solo project FREEFALL entitled Kingdom of Rock!
Out on Frontiers in November!
 
Frontiers Music Srl is pleased to announce the release of the sophomore album from MAGNUS KARLSSONS FREEFALL Kingdom Of Rock on November 6th.
 
Magnus Karlsson is the mastermind behind several Frontiers Music Srl productions, including the successful initial ALLEN/LANDE trilogy, STARBREAKER, BOB CATLEY, KISKE/SOMERVILLE and several others. In 2008, he joined the German Heavy Metal icons PRIMAL FEAR and with them has toured the world and recorded three successful albums that climbed high on the charts in several countries.
 
For this new album aptly titled Kingdom of Rock - Magnus enlisted again a dream team featuring some of the  strongest melodic singers in metal and hard rock! Magnus says: I didnt plan to make a second Free Fall album at first but one album wasnt enough for my wish list of singers so after the summer last year I started on some ideas. Without pressure or a deadline just for fun. So I started to look at the list with singers and thought if can I get these guys on board I will work harder than ever before to make the best album I could. I wanted not only some of the best singers I ever heard, but singers that meant a lot to me and that have given me inspiration. For example: Tony Martin and Joe Lynn Turner I grew up with their music and that made me the musician I am today. It feels unreal to make music with them now!
 
The final list includes TONY HARNELL (Skid Row, TNT, Starbreaker), RICK ALTZI (Masterplan, At Vance), DAVID READMAN (Pink Cream 69, Voodoo Circle), JORN LANDE, JAKOB SAMUEL (The Poodles), JOE LYNN TURNER (Rainbow, Malmsteen, Deep Purple), TONY MARTIN (Black Sabbath), HARRY HESS (Harem Scarem) and REBECCA DE LA MOTTE. Rounding out the line-up on the album is Jaime Salazar on drums with production duties handled by Jacob Hansen (Volbeat, Primal Fear, Amaranthe, Pretty Maids and more).
 
Magnus says, There is a lot more work in this album. Normally I dont throw away good ideas. This time I skipped great ideas and replaced it with something better. I dont want to do the same thing over and over. I want to do something better. I also had a bigger budget for the production and was able to work in great studios. Jacob Hansen did a fantastic job with the mix and mastering and the sound is just what I always wanted. This is not about having big names on the album, this is simply about making the best music I possibly can for the best singers I know!
 
The final result Kingdom of Rock is a Melodic Metal blast which is truly one of the top releases of its kind in 2015!


Tracklisting:  Kingdom Of Rock (Jorn Lande, vocals); Out Of The Dark (Jakob Samuel, vocals); No Control (Joe Lynn Turner, vocals); When The Sky Falls (Tony Martin, vocals); Angel Of The Night (David Readman, vocals); I Am Coming For You (Magnus Karlsson, vocals); Another Life (Rick Altzi, vocals); Never Look Away (Tony Harnell, vocals); A Heart So Cold (Harry Hess, vocals); The Right Moment (Rebecca De La Motte, vocals); Walk This Road Alone (Magnus Karlsson, vocals).
 
BAND MEMBERS:
Magnus Karlsson - Guitars, Bass, Keyboards, Vocals
Jaime Salazar - Drums
 
Weblinks: www.facebook.com/MAGNUSKARLSSONSFREEFALL

 Tracklisting:  Kingdom Of Rock (Jorn Lande, vocals); Out Of The Dark (Jakob Samuel, vocals); No Control (Joe Lynn Turner, vocals); When The Sky Falls (Tony Martin, vocals); Angel Of The Night (David Readman, vocals); I Am Coming For You (Magnus Karlsson, vocals); Another Life (Rick Altzi, vocals); Never Look Away (Tony Harnell, vocals); A Heart So Cold (Harry Hess, vocals); The Right Moment (Rebecca De La Motte, vocals); Walk This Road Alone (Magnus Karlsson, vocals).
 
BAND MEMBERS:
Magnus Karlsson - Guitars, Bass, Keyboards, Vocals
Jaime Salazar - Drums
 
Weblinks: www.facebook.com/MAGNUSKARLSSONSFREEFALL

https://youtu.be/ljiHGxQs2yE
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 04:28:02 PM
Sounds quite fresh IMO.  That Jorn song sounds like it could be on the first Allen/Lande album with a bit of a Survivor feel IMO.  The JLT song is pure 80's melodic rock, the Jakob Samuel song has a great chorus and the Magnus song is solid. 

So pumped for this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on August 31, 2015, 06:01:08 PM
sounds good to me!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on August 31, 2015, 06:02:44 PM
Skip this post Kade!


If I listen to this two times, then it will be twice as many times as I listened to the first one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 06:42:10 PM
Skip this post Kade!


If I listen to this two times, then it will be twice as many times as I listened to the first one.

Can't skip this.  What a wasted opportunity for your roulette.  You gotta check it out man.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 31, 2015, 06:48:04 PM
I hate to break it to you Kade but double zero ain't two.  :neverusethis:   He mustn't have liked it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 06:53:34 PM
Oh yeah, I think I read that wrong.  I just don't think it would be possible for anyone not to like that album.  Damn you Tim! 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on August 31, 2015, 06:54:08 PM
Skip this post Kade!


If I listen to this two times, then it will be twice as many times as I listened to the first one.

Can't skip this.  What a wasted opportunity for your roulette.  You gotta check it out man.

I bought it! It's on my iPod!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 06:56:34 PM
Skip this post Kade!


If I listen to this two times, then it will be twice as many times as I listened to the first one.

Can't skip this.  What a wasted opportunity for your roulette.  You gotta check it out man.

I bought it! It's on my iPod!

What's the story then?  Just didn't do it for you?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 31, 2015, 07:01:18 PM
I actually wasn't big into Freefall either........lots of people on it who I like but for me the songs were nothing special. I wasn't rushing back for a second listen either.

I get the feeling that this time around he hasn't spread himself as thin as he was a few years back.  Expecting a good album.

As a general rule I find that multi vocalist albums disappoint me a lot more often than not , no matter how great the talent on the roster.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 07:03:53 PM
I actually wasn't big into Freefall either........lots of people on it who I like but for me the songs were nothing special. I wasn't rushing back for a second listen either.

I get the feeling that this time around he hasn't spread himself as thin as he was a few years back.  Expecting a good album.

The samples certainly sound like there is more vision and thought put into the songwriting.  That Jorn song really does remind me of The Battle.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on August 31, 2015, 07:08:24 PM
I listened to it once while cutting the lawn. Admittedly not the best circumstances. But I'm not a fan of different vocalists on every song, and I'm not that familiar with Karlsson to be so much of a fan to look the other way. It's decent music and all, but when it's so many albums so little time, it has always got pushed aside.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 31, 2015, 07:37:06 PM
Oh, ffs... why they hell was it on your banned list then!?!?!?  It was my AOTY for 2013.  I get people not being into the multi-vocalist thing (though Tim... what gives with Avantasia?  huh?  HUH?).  Anyway... not a bad song on that album.  And listen to each song individually then - start with Not My Saviour.

As for this... Fuck YEAH!  So stoked it's coming out this year, and not next year like was first initially announced.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 07:53:42 PM
Chad knows what the fuck is up!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 31, 2015, 07:59:17 PM
Chad knows what the fuck is up!

:hifive:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on August 31, 2015, 07:59:40 PM
On the first Freefall, the opening track with Russell Allen is worth the purchase alone.

The Ralph track kicks ass too!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 31, 2015, 08:00:54 PM
Chad knows what the fuck is up!

:hifive:

Yeah buddy.  I'm looking forward to this so much too, those samples sound incredible. 


On the first Freefall, the opening track with Russell Allen is worth the purchase alone.

The Ralph track kicks ass too!

I think the title track is one of his best.  A whole album of quality.  The Mark Boals one is really good too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 01, 2015, 04:28:50 AM
I actually wasn't big into Freefall either........lots of people on it who I like but for me the songs were nothing special. I wasn't rushing back for a second listen either.

I get the feeling that this time around he hasn't spread himself as thin as he was a few years back.  Expecting a good album.

As a general rule I find that multi vocalist albums disappoint me a lot more often than not , no matter how great the talent on the roster.

Can't say I was bothered by the multi vocalist thing at all. They were all great metal voices (even Karlsson doesn't sound outof place!) and not a million miles away from each other style-wise I guess, apart from Harnell who obviously sings higher than the other guys. I really enjoy the album, its probably MK's finest work.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2015, 05:09:30 AM
I actually wasn't big into Freefall either........lots of people on it who I like but for me the songs were nothing special. I wasn't rushing back for a second listen either.

I get the feeling that this time around he hasn't spread himself as thin as he was a few years back.  Expecting a good album.

As a general rule I find that multi vocalist albums disappoint me a lot more often than not , no matter how great the talent on the roster.

Can't say I was bothered by the multi vocalist thing at all. They were all great metal voices (even Karlsson doesn't sound outof place!) and not a million miles away from each other style-wise I guess, apart from Harnell who obviously sings higher than the other guys. I really enjoy the album, its probably MK's finest work.

I think The Battle is still his best work.  That album is just magic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 01, 2015, 08:13:07 AM
Oh, ffs... why they hell was it on your banned list then!?!?!?  It was my AOTY for 2013.   

Well, two reasons actually.
First:
(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/54195263.jpg)



and secondly:
(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/60490326.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 01, 2015, 04:47:38 PM
I actually wasn't big into Freefall either........lots of people on it who I like but for me the songs were nothing special. I wasn't rushing back for a second listen either.

I get the feeling that this time around he hasn't spread himself as thin as he was a few years back.  Expecting a good album.

As a general rule I find that multi vocalist albums disappoint me a lot more often than not , no matter how great the talent on the roster.

Can't say I was bothered by the multi vocalist thing at all. They were all great metal voices (even Karlsson doesn't sound outof place!) and not a million miles away from each other style-wise I guess, apart from Harnell who obviously sings higher than the other guys. I really enjoy the album, its probably MK's finest work.

I'm not bothered by it at all - I just meant that it usually works out that way.  I don't go in with any preconceived bias against multi vocalist projects.  I know Kade disagrees strongly but I was really keen to hear the last Gus G solo album with two of my favourite singers ever (Soto, Saenz) and I thought it was very ordinary.

I think the Allen/Lande stuff is miles ahead of Freefall myself.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2015, 05:27:33 PM
To be honest, I don't bother with anything new that is a multi vocal project, I love Ayreon and Avantasia, but I don't go looking for that type of thing. 

And yeah, I agree, Allen/Lande is miles of ahead of Freefall for me also.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 01, 2015, 09:50:22 PM
To be honest, I don't bother with anything new that is a multi vocal project, I love Ayreon and Avantasia, but I don't go looking for that type of thing. 

And yeah, I agree, Allen/Lande is miles of ahead of Freefall for me also.

I wouldn't say I go looking for it, but I'm not put off by it whatsoever.  Allen/Lande is in a class of it's own, that's for sure.  Freefall is hard to compare with A/L imo... It's like comparing 2 different brands of scotch - each are amazing in their own way.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2015, 10:01:36 PM
To be honest, I don't bother with anything new that is a multi vocal project, I love Ayreon and Avantasia, but I don't go looking for that type of thing. 

And yeah, I agree, Allen/Lande is miles of ahead of Freefall for me also.

I wouldn't say I go looking for it, but I'm not put off by it whatsoever.  Allen/Lande is in a class of it's own, that's for sure.  Freefall is hard to compare with A/L imo... It's like comparing 2 different brands of scotch - each are amazing in their own way.

Completely true man.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on September 01, 2015, 10:03:53 PM
I don't mind the Allen/Lande albums (the pre-Tolkki ones at least :lol) but I'd put Freefall above any of them, no contest.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 02, 2015, 02:48:15 AM
HAd a listen to the samples of Freefall 2 last night and was completely underwhelmed. There is nothing "new" there at all. MK by numbers from what I could tell. Hope the full thing is better.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2015, 05:19:20 AM
I'm not really expecting anything new from Karlsson at all really.  It sounds like some of his old school style of writing which I'm happy with.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 02, 2015, 08:22:33 AM
I'm not really expecting anything new from Karlsson at all really.  It sounds like some of his old school style of writing which I'm happy with.

Agree... I always take the samples with a grain of salt.  I think MK's writing is pretty formulaic, but it's a formula that scratches me where I itch.  He doesn't waver too far from his comfort zone, but I'm totally fine with that - he's got so much out there, that there isn't a lot new he can do without going way outside his box.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2015, 03:49:55 PM
I'm not really expecting anything new from Karlsson at all really.  It sounds like some of his old school style of writing which I'm happy with.

Agree... I always take the samples with a grain of salt.  I think MK's writing is pretty formulaic, but it's a formula that scratches me where I itch.  He doesn't waver too far from his comfort zone, but I'm totally fine with that - he's got so much out there, that there isn't a lot new he can do without going way outside his box.

Exactly, and because what he does is so high quality, he doesn't have to try and reinvent the wheel, he can keep doing his thing and I'll still love it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 02, 2015, 04:44:47 PM
If it was too different from the first, we would complaining and say he is a jerk store.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2015, 05:14:16 PM
But there are no jerk stores!?  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 02, 2015, 07:36:45 PM
Well then I guess someone needs to sleep with his wife
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 02, 2015, 08:16:52 PM
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Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 02, 2015, 09:39:32 PM
That show just never gets old.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 03, 2015, 02:59:17 PM
I'm not really expecting anything new from Karlsson at all really.  It sounds like some of his old school style of writing which I'm happy with.

I wouldn't have expected it too but the press release was gushing about trying new things and it being fresh. I suppose that's what a press release is supposed to do but I went into the samples listening for something new and all I heard was FF2.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 03, 2015, 03:24:37 PM
I'm not really expecting anything new from Karlsson at all really.  It sounds like some of his old school style of writing which I'm happy with.

I wouldn't have expected it too but the press release was gushing about trying new things and it being fresh. I suppose that's what a press release is supposed to do but I went into the samples listening for something new and all I heard was FF2.

And that's a problem how?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 03, 2015, 04:20:09 PM
I'm not really expecting anything new from Karlsson at all really.  It sounds like some of his old school style of writing which I'm happy with.

I wouldn't have expected it too but the press release was gushing about trying new things and it being fresh. I suppose that's what a press release is supposed to do but I went into the samples listening for something new and all I heard was FF2.

I don't believe what any press releases have to say in terms of the quality of the record.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 03, 2015, 04:31:21 PM
I'm not really expecting anything new from Karlsson at all really.  It sounds like some of his old school style of writing which I'm happy with.

I wouldn't have expected it too but the press release was gushing about trying new things and it being fresh. I suppose that's what a press release is supposed to do but I went into the samples listening for something new and all I heard was FF2.

And that's a problem how?

I don't know. It's probably not a problem as I loved the last one. It might just be because they were short samples that nothing grabbed me, maybe I wasn't in the mood. I was just underwhelmed.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 03, 2015, 04:34:52 PM
I'm confident for an excellent album.  I think guys like Karlsson, over time, expectations can just continue to rise and therefore the product seeming not as impressive as what you would have use to.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 03, 2015, 04:45:58 PM
Karlsson knows the formula that works and won't change to much of it.

ACDC 101
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 03, 2015, 07:51:27 PM
If any of you dudes have ordered the new Praying Mantis stock version and want the JAP bonus track in 320 mp3 , then just PM an email and I'll get it to you.   Great album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 03, 2015, 07:53:02 PM
If any of you dudes have ordered the new Praying Mantis stock version and want the JAP bonus track in 320 mp3 , then just PM an email and I'll get it to you.   Great album.

Damn, I forgot about this one.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 04, 2015, 01:52:58 AM
For those of you who don't mind the wimpier side of melodic rock (Work of Art , Find Me and the like) the new album by Art Nation (Revolution) is a pretty good effort.  Nothing we haven't heard before but a strong effort.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on September 04, 2015, 01:57:58 AM
I'm a bit of a wimp so I'll definitely check that out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2015, 06:20:29 AM
I'm a big fucking soft cock too, will check out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2015, 06:34:19 AM
New Joel Hoekstra video with JSS;

https://youtu.be/drA-pn3aYnU

This album is sounding pretty generic.  Decent enough song, only cause it has JSS IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 04, 2015, 06:36:36 AM
Yeah the Hoekstra stuff all sounds pretty formulaic.  And JSS's strike rate with me lately isn't all that wonderful either and I have always been a HUGE fan.  At a guess I would have more albums with JSS on than any other artist.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2015, 06:42:55 AM
Love me some JSS, I actually really enjoyed the one that came out at the start of the year, mainly cause it was a bit different and some fresh ideas.

Listening to a couple of these Art Nation tracks on youtube, yeah, nice.  Something I would definitely pick up.  Reminds me a lot of HEAT which is a good thing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 04, 2015, 11:32:23 AM
Generic. Did Joel write this or is it from the Frontiers stock pile of generic AOR?
It was ok but nothing special. JSS was the only thing keeping me from turning it off.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 04, 2015, 05:31:31 PM
Those Hoekstra tracks are pretty good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 06, 2015, 09:06:04 PM
Generic. Did Joel write this or is it from the Frontiers stock pile of generic AOR?
It was ok but nothing special. JSS was the only thing keeping me from turning it off.

Yeah same.  I think he wrote most of it himself.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 09, 2015, 04:57:13 AM
Just listened to Bryan Adams new song and it's a piece of shit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 09, 2015, 05:35:37 AM
The last good record from Bryan Adams is 1987's Into the Fire and that was some f*ckin' 30 years ago.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 09, 2015, 05:38:48 AM
haha, yeah, I've never really been a fan.  Some of his hits were great though.  I love the one with Sting and Rod Stewart, underrated forgotten hit that one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 09, 2015, 06:14:21 AM
Up to the above mentioned I was a fan of his music and saw him live several times, those were great shows. But then his music became less rocking and even more commercial and cheesy and I lost interest, although he had the occasional good tune since then.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 09, 2015, 06:17:19 AM
The last good record from Bryan Adams is 1987's Into the Fire and that was some f*ckin' 30 years ago.

I love Into The Fire..........or I did as a kid anyway (haven't listened in ages).   Waking Up The Neighbours - with Mutt Lange on board- is supposed to be alright too but I stopped taking interest around then.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 09, 2015, 06:21:32 AM
Waking Up was ok but not great and because of Lange it sounded sometimes more Def Leppard than Def Leppard themselves  ::)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 09, 2015, 09:02:26 AM
Just listened to Bryan Adams new song and it's a piece of shit.

You had to listen to it to come to that conclusion?
And how is it that you could have so much nothing to do where you would even possibly have the time to listen to a new Bryan Adams song? :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on September 09, 2015, 09:39:44 AM
Am I the only person on the planet who thinks "Everything I Do, I Do For You" is a great song? I loved that song since it came out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 09, 2015, 09:44:24 AM
Probably.  I can't stand that song - it got so incredibly over played up here when it was released.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 09, 2015, 10:23:37 AM
Am I the only person on the planet who thinks "Everything I Do, I Do For You" is a great song? I loved that song since it came out.

Number one in the UK forever. Yuk. Though I don't mind the song as long as I don't hear it more than once a decade or so. I loved Reckless, thought Into the Fire was a poor follow up, the def leppardisms of WUTN was fine by me (though too long). Not rated much since and haven't bothered in a long time.
He was great live back in the day.
It would be a cougar fest now...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 09, 2015, 03:16:54 PM
Am I the only person on the planet who thinks "Everything I Do, I Do For You" is a great song? I loved that song since it came out.

Number one in the UK forever. Yuk. Though I don't mind the song as long as I don't hear it more than once a decade or so. I loved Reckless, thought Into the Fire was a poor follow up, the def leppardisms of WUTN was fine by me (though too long). Not rated much since and haven't bothered in a long time.
He was great live back in the day.
It would be a cougar fest now...

Number one in Australia for about a year too

Hell yeah to the cougar fest.

Just listened to Bryan Adams new song and it's a piece of shit.

You had to listen to it to come to that conclusion?
And how is it that you could have so much nothing to do where you would even possibly have the time to listen to a new Bryan Adams song? :lol

Was linked on mr.com and played it while browsing.  haha.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on September 09, 2015, 10:04:41 PM
it got so incredibly over played
That's its only problem, really.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2015, 06:51:07 AM
Treat currently recording a new album.  Hell yeah, last one was awesome.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 11, 2015, 06:52:27 AM
Treat currently recording a new album.  Hell yeah, last one was awesome.

Yeah.........I always found their stuff half killer , half filler but they hit the bullseye with Coup De Grace
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2015, 06:56:35 AM
Treat currently recording a new album.  Hell yeah, last one was awesome.

Yeah.........I always found their stuff half killer , half filler but they hit the bullseye with Coup De Grace

Damn, I knew you knew that album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 11, 2015, 07:22:09 AM
Treat currently recording a new album.  Hell yeah, last one was awesome.

Yeah.........I always found their stuff half killer , half filler but they hit the bullseye with Coup De Grace

Damn, I knew you knew that album.

Would you expect anything else?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2015, 07:22:50 AM
Treat currently recording a new album.  Hell yeah, last one was awesome.

Yeah.........I always found their stuff half killer , half filler but they hit the bullseye with Coup De Grace

Damn, I knew you knew that album.

Would you expect anything else?

No, but hope is a wonderful thing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 14, 2015, 12:51:42 PM
RIP Gary Richrath

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/gary-richrath-former-reo-speedwagon-guitarist-and-songwriter-dies/ar-AAehrBY?ocid=ansmsnent11
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 14, 2015, 03:55:06 PM
That's awful news.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2015, 05:17:28 AM
These new Find Me samples sound good.  Safe but the first album was great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n28B_nuhxA
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 22, 2015, 05:26:19 AM
Very safe stuff, but it's the kind of safe I like in this type of music, and it sounds pretty strong from the samples. I liked what I heard from the first album, but never got around to grabbing that one. I'll have to check them both out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on September 22, 2015, 05:28:14 AM
Safe, though not bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2015, 05:37:36 AM
Very safe stuff, but it's the kind of safe I like in this type of music, and it sounds pretty strong from the samples. I liked what I heard from the first album, but never got around to grabbing that one. I'll have to check them both out.

First album was stellar, I think you'd like it.  But I like it, so maybe not.  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 22, 2015, 05:50:38 AM
Very safe stuff, but it's the kind of safe I like in this type of music, and it sounds pretty strong from the samples. I liked what I heard from the first album, but never got around to grabbing that one. I'll have to check them both out.

First album was stellar, I think you'd like it.  But I like it, so maybe not.  ;D

:lol I've liked everything I've heard from them, so maybe this will be another of those rare exceptions.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 22, 2015, 05:52:27 AM
Very safe stuff, but it's the kind of safe I like in this type of music, and it sounds pretty strong from the samples. I liked what I heard from the first album, but never got around to grabbing that one. I'll have to check them both out.

First album was stellar, I think you'd like it.  But I like it, so maybe not.  ;D

:lol I've liked everything I've heard from them, so maybe this will be another of those rare exceptions.

Anything is possible I guess haha.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2015, 05:32:38 AM
Wow, brand new Kyymera out of December 4

https://youtu.be/yFubXGm99Oc

Again, safe and predictable, but sounds solid.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 23, 2015, 08:00:44 AM
Saw that last night.
Dennis has a decent voice but I'd rather he get back to giving us an awesome PC 69 album personally.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 23, 2015, 03:43:51 PM
These new Find Me samples sound good.  Safe but the first album was great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n28B_nuhxA

Wow, brand new Kyymera out of December 4

https://youtu.be/yFubXGm99Oc

Again, safe and predictable, but sounds solid.

Two bands I've literally never heard of. Such bland 80's rock. :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 23, 2015, 05:43:52 PM
Except it's from the 10s.

Heard of them both... heard a couple songs from both... was mostly underwhelmed by both.  Not bad, just not wow'd.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2015, 08:17:01 PM
I really liked Khymera's last two albums.  Dennis does have a good voice and agree with Paul that a new PC69 would be good.  Ceremonial was great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 23, 2015, 08:49:24 PM
Giddy up!

Quote
Harem Scarem's homecoming show at The Phoenix Concert Theatre in Toronto on 2CD/DVD & Blu Ray
Out in December on Frontiers!
Frontiers Music Srl, is pleased to announce the upcoming live release by the Canadian rock group HAREM SCAREM, entitled LIVE AT THE PHOENIX on December 4th.
Available in 2CD/DVD, Blu-ray and Digital formats, this new release, marks the first proper live album recorded by HAREM SCAREM in front of their home audience. Singer Harry Hess explains Canada is where we started touring all those years ago and to be able to invite our friends, family and fans to this show was cool.
Recorded live on Saturday July 11th, 2015 at the Phoenix Concert Theatre in Toronto, this happened to be the perfect time and venue for the band to capture live recordings of numerous songs from their latest record "Thirteen" and also to revisit their classic early material. It was an honest and raw performance showcasing the repertoire of a band which is at the top of their game.
It wasn't easy coming up with this set list but I think we got to all the important stuff plus it's always fun to play the new material that you haven't been playing for 20 years. Tells Harry It is definitely the most extensive live recording and video that we have ever done and the quality of both the video and audio are by far the best of anything we have ever done.
For fans around the world that were not able to see Harem Scarem on their "Thirteen" tour, this special Blu Ray DVD and double audio cd is a must!!
Enjoy the live rendition of the bands classic song No Justice following this link: https://youtu.be/b_wxloUX-jw
LIVE AT THE PHOENIX tracklisting includes:
CD1 - Garden Of Eden; Hard To Love; Saviors Never Cry; Dagger; Distant Memory; The Midnight Hours; Mandy; Killing Me; Slowly Slipping Away; Troubled Times.
CD2 - Sentimental Blvd.; Turn Around; Stranger Than Love; All I Need; Saints And Sinners; So Blind; Human Nature; Voice Of Reason; Change Comes Around; No Justice.
DVD // Blu Ray - Garden Of Eden; Hard To Love; Saviors Never Cry; Dagger; Distant Memory; The Midnight Hours; Mandy; Killing Me; Slowly Slipping Away; Troubled Times; Sentimental Blvd.; Turn Around; Stranger Than Love; All I Need; Saints And Sinners; So Blind; Human Nature; Voice Of Reason; Change Comes Around; No Justice.

I was thinking about going to this show, but there were too many complications going on that weekend.  It's a great venue to see a concert.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2015, 05:27:30 AM
Damn, the last 3 months of the year is getting more and more expensive.  Must have.

The setlist is good even though it's pretty pigeonholed with the selections.  Lots of new stuff, but the new one was impressive.  Dagger is a really nice inclusion but some Beleive stuff would have been nice.

I don't know though, that No Justice vid seems to lack a bit of energy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 24, 2015, 05:35:50 AM
I don't know though, that No Justice vid seems to lack a bit of energy.

I thought the same thing.  Will still be buying it though.  I can let you know how it is if you'd like.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2015, 05:46:20 AM
I don't know though, that No Justice vid seems to lack a bit of energy.

I thought the same thing.  Will still be buying it though.  I can let you know how it is if you'd like.

I'll most probably buy it bro.  The end section picked up a bit though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 24, 2015, 06:25:40 AM
I love Harem Scarem and have a few live DVDs - fact is that they usually give a "rather be somewhere else" vibe in a live environment - especially Harry.   
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 24, 2015, 06:30:03 AM
I love Harem Scarem and have a few live DVDs - fact is that they usually give a "rather be somewhere else" vibe in a live environment - especially Harry.

The two times I've seen them, were so different.  The first was their very first "reunion" show a little over 2 years ago - bar atmosphere with about 200-300 people.  The second was a warmup act over the labour day weekend that same summer before they went out to the UK.  The show was barely advertised at all, and there were like 50 people in this dive of a bar about 10 minutes from my house - and 30 of them were friends/family.  :lol

Darren is always a clown, and Pete puts an effort into things.  Harry seems to be hit and miss.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2015, 06:31:01 AM
I guess he's lucky he's vocals are always top notch.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 24, 2015, 06:41:02 AM
Yeah, I'll take that first, over a good stage presence/energy.  I'll take this over what Dokken does these days.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2015, 06:49:01 AM
Good call.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 24, 2015, 07:10:56 AM
I must be missing something.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 24, 2015, 02:09:58 PM
I must be missing something.

It's probably the same thing that goes missing when I listen to Saxon.   :biggrin:

But it's ok, we forgive you, just like you forgive me.

:hug:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2015, 03:26:13 PM
I must be missing something.

No likey Harem Scarem?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 24, 2015, 03:58:18 PM
I must be missing something.

No likey Harem Scarem?

They are so blah.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2015, 04:00:21 PM
I must be missing something.

No likey Harem Scarem?

They are so blah.

You mean blahdy good!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 24, 2015, 04:00:44 PM
I must be missing something.

No likey Harem Scarem?

They are so blah.

So is your face!   :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2015, 04:06:32 PM
I must be missing something.

No likey Harem Scarem?

They are so blah.

So is your face!   :lol

(https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llg81rYTI61qdasbeo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 24, 2015, 04:08:31 PM
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Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 25, 2015, 03:38:13 AM
D2 fans will be drooling over an upcoming album from The Defiants (Paul Laine, Bruno Ravel, Rob Marcello). 

Basically Revolve era D2 with Laine on vox .......no Steve West though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 25, 2015, 06:03:15 AM
D2 fans will be drooling over an upcoming album from The Defiants (Paul Laine, Bruno Ravel, Rob Marcello). 

Basically Revolve era D2 with Laine on vox .......no Steve West though.

Yeah saw that. Should be good. No Steve West isn't too much of a loss. He's a basic drummer. When I saw D2 live I hardly noticed any fills at all.
It does beg the question why D2 are not keen on any mor erecording, especially as th elast one was a cracker.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2015, 06:37:43 AM
D2 fans will be drooling over an upcoming album from The Defiants (Paul Laine, Bruno Ravel, Rob Marcello). 

Basically Revolve era D2 with Laine on vox .......no Steve West though.

I'll take it.  Agree with Paul though, D2 should have done another album, that last one was so brilliant.  Marcello is a beast too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 25, 2015, 09:58:13 AM
Who the fuck are these bands you are talking about? :lol

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 25, 2015, 10:04:00 AM
Guess you've never slipped her the big one?   :lol

Danger Danger is way too glam for you Tim.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 25, 2015, 11:12:52 AM
Who the fuck are these bands you are talking about? :lol

What are you doing in this thread Tim?  :lol

One of my favourite hair metal tracks. Could well be where Steel Panther got their whole act  :biggrin:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8o6J4qMSd4w
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 25, 2015, 11:52:11 AM
Ahh, D2 = Danger Danger!
(https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/d2/d255c47cce9712ccc5427875df569d291de39ffdf764186c5132c3807be28153.jpg)

I didn't realize Danger Danger had "eras"! :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2015, 03:40:22 PM
Who the fuck are these bands you are talking about? :lol

Get out of the thread dude.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 25, 2015, 03:50:09 PM
Get out of the thread dude.

What are you doing in this thread Tim?  :lol

 :rollin

Hey seriously, I was on Bravewords a couple of months ago, and the referenced a late 80's band that I completely ignored, but they had a link to one of their songs, and for shits and giggles I clicked it, and was really surprised at how heavy it was, and meant to check them out at a later date.
Well, that later date has arrived and I completely forget what band it was. :facepalm:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 25, 2015, 03:54:59 PM
Get out of the thread dude.

What are you doing in this thread Tim?  :lol

 :rollin

Hey seriously, I was on Bravewords a couple of months ago, and the referenced a late 80's band that I completely ignored, but they had a link to one of their songs, and for shits and giggles I clicked it, and was really surprised at how heavy it was, and meant to check them out at a later date.
Well, that later date has arrived and I completely forget what band it was. :facepalm:

Welcome to my world. I work with people with dementia and m pretty sure it's infectious  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 25, 2015, 04:12:54 PM
One of my favourite hair metal tracks. Could well be where Steel Panther got their whole act  :biggrin:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8o6J4qMSd4w

Wow that was bad. Seriously, I turned off on music like this back in the day. It sucks so bad.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on September 25, 2015, 04:25:38 PM
Yeah, I was on the outside with many hair bands when Danger Danger made it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 25, 2015, 04:26:53 PM
Yeah, I was on the outside with many hair bands when Danger Danger made it.

Umm..when exactly did they make it? :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on September 25, 2015, 04:40:48 PM
Well they were on MTV, I wasn't.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 25, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
A technicality!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2015, 04:45:32 PM
Well they were on MTV, I wasn't.  :lol

haha.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 25, 2015, 05:51:39 PM
Danger Danger roulette!!

8 rounds of Danger Danger madness.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2015, 05:53:48 PM
Danger Danger roulette!!

8 rounds of Danger Danger madness.

(https://media.tumblr.com/bcbb80613f0e413ef644a31359ed8bdf/tumblr_inline_mriykfmQJZ1qz4rgp.gif)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: King Postwhore on September 25, 2015, 05:55:26 PM
So everybody is done after 1 round? :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 25, 2015, 05:58:31 PM
That Monkey song is only the second Danger Danger song I've ever heard besides Naughty Naughty.  Meh
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 25, 2015, 06:02:45 PM
If you're going to like anything by them jj if would be Laine ERA  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbR08NKNv9c
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on September 25, 2015, 06:10:25 PM
If you're going to like anything by them jj if would be Laine ERA  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbR08NKNv9c

decent
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 25, 2015, 06:11:00 PM
Pretty sure all of their songs come from the Suck era! ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2015, 06:13:21 PM
If you're going to like anything by them jj if would be Laine ERA  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbR08NKNv9c

Good album Cockroach.

Pretty sure all of their songs come from the Suck era! ;D

no u
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 25, 2015, 06:18:16 PM
Pretty sure all of their songs come from the Suck era! ;D

Cockroach.


I agree Kade  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 25, 2015, 08:34:15 PM
Pretty sure all of their songs come from the Suck era! ;D

Your face sucks!

Just listened to a little Revolve and s/t today.  Will hit Laine era next week maybe.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 26, 2015, 02:49:40 AM
Pretty sure all of their songs come from the Suck era! ;D

Well someone had to take over from Winger after the successful intervention
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on September 26, 2015, 09:58:52 AM
 :facepalm:

 :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 26, 2015, 10:07:06 AM
Pretty sure all of their songs come from the Suck era! ;D

Well someone had to take over from Winger after the successful intervention

Maybe Jay will grace us with a DD round?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 26, 2015, 04:07:05 PM
I would do a DD round but I'm awesome and already know their awesomeness.

Pretty sure all of their songs come from the Suck era! ;D

Your face sucks!

Just listened to a little Revolve and s/t today.  Will hit Laine era next week maybe.

I haven't listened to Revolve in a little while actually, need to change that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 27, 2015, 04:31:10 AM
I'm checking out a couple of tracks on YT from a new album called Self Defence from band Ozone.  Features Slamer and Overland plus a couple of others.  Quality Slamer stuff, will have to check the full thing I think.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on September 27, 2015, 05:55:14 AM
I'm checking out a couple of tracks on YT from a new album called Self Defence from band Ozone.  Features Slamer and Overland plus a couple of others.  Quality Slamer stuff, will have to check the full thing I think.

Funny you should mention that album - snuck in a quick listen this morning.

Good album - both Overland and Ousey (esp) can be a bit love/hate for people with their vocal sound.  I've gone off Ousey (not ouzo  :metal ) a bit over the years I must admit.  But overall it's a strong album with a few standout songs.  Sorta mid 80's ranking there after one listen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2015, 05:36:55 AM
Yeah, I'll add it to the list.

I've listened to the Kelly Keeling too, I really really like this quite a lot.  Might have to buy a copy.  Generic and nothing new, but well done AOR.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 06, 2015, 02:02:28 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZJgWMDxpo

New Aldo nova track from his autobiographical rock opera thing.

It's not great but not a total write off. It is missing a ripping guitar solo like those on Blood on the Bricks. How has this man not made music in the last 25 years?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2015, 04:24:33 PM
Not digging that one at all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 06, 2015, 04:26:33 PM
I need to get out some Aldo Nova at some point -back in the day I wasn't sure what the fuss was about.  I remember seeing an interview with him and Jon Bon Jovi where Jon is talking about how Aldo helped him out etc......that pecking order didn't last long.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 06, 2015, 08:17:59 PM
I find a lot of Aldo's music to be solid, but nothing special.  Like Wolf, not really into this one though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 07, 2015, 05:11:37 AM
Another Freefall song featuring JLT;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsK915Q8nl8

Great chrous.  Very AOR and very JLT.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on October 07, 2015, 05:19:36 AM
Extremely safe song, but not bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 07, 2015, 05:19:54 AM
Solid, although not enough to really interest me in the album. JLT still sounds great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 07, 2015, 05:21:12 AM
Solid, although not enough to really interest me in the album. JLT still sounds great.

Indeed he does.  I really have enjoyed his Sunstorm project over the last few years, great stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2015, 04:19:45 AM
Really enjoying this Kelly Keeling album.  Blob, you might like this one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 11, 2015, 04:22:50 AM
Really enjoying this Kelly Keeling album.  Blob, you might like this one.

I'm pretty sure that was one I was very interested in checking out actually. Thanks for reminding me!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2015, 04:24:21 AM
Really enjoying this Kelly Keeling album.  Blob, you might like this one.

I'm pretty sure that was one I was very interested in checking out actually. Thanks for reminding me!

I actually found it at JB and just picked it up on a whim.  It's really solid AOR, and the production is quite good.  Reminds me a bit of the Fergie Frederiksen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 11, 2015, 04:27:38 AM
Yeah, it's that similar style of melodic rock, which is why it appeals to me. I still really enjoy that last Frederiksen album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2015, 04:31:44 AM
I listen to it from time to time.  Once I got over that it pretty light, it's an enjoyable bunch of songs. 

The thing I like about this Keeling album, is that every track is solid melodic rock.  There's no token generic ballad in there.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 11, 2015, 04:34:54 AM
Damn ballads! I've got nothing against ballads, but I find the ballads on these modern albums to be generally bland. I don't mind one or two, but too many albums are dragged down by being like 50% ballads.

I still have to catch up on that previous Find Me album too. Looking forward to the new one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 11, 2015, 04:38:50 AM
Yeah, I don't mind the ballads, but sometimes the cheese factor can get a bit much.

That Find Me album is worth it too, good stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 11, 2015, 09:27:06 AM
I listen to it from time to time.  Once I got over that it pretty light, it's an enjoyable bunch of songs. 

The thing I like about this Keeling album, is that every track is solid melodic rock.  There's no token generic ballad in there.

I didn't mind it. Nothing really screamed play me again though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 21, 2015, 09:54:11 PM
Another track from Kingdom of Rock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EbXqf9waJc&feature=youtu.be

Very good.  Very enjoyable, though not entirely anything new from Magnus.  Still, his shit floats my boat.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on October 21, 2015, 10:11:40 PM
Not bad again but nothing mind-blowing. It looks like this album is going to be a bit of a disappointment after Free Fall 1.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 21, 2015, 10:56:33 PM
Solid tune
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 22, 2015, 04:58:21 AM
Not bad again but nothing mind-blowing. It looks like this album is going to be a bit of a disappointment after Free Fall 1.

I wouldn't say disappointment... just won't quite meet the level of aweomesauce of the debut.  I'm not expecting it to, so I won't be disappointed.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2015, 05:40:16 AM
Another track from Kingdom of Rock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EbXqf9waJc&feature=youtu.be

Very good.  Very enjoyable, though not entirely anything new from Magnus.  Still, his shit floats my boat.

This one is a cracker IMO, best out of the three we've heard.  Yes, it's nothing new, it reminds me of a mix of the song The Revenge and Turn All Into Gold.  I will say though, it's great to hear Magnus do a bit of an old school longer type instrumental section, that makes me happy, it's been missing for a while.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2015, 04:17:49 PM
Not bad again but nothing mind-blowing. It looks like this album is going to be a bit of a disappointment after Free Fall 1.
That would be pretty hard to do.  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2015, 04:34:21 PM
Not bad again but nothing mind-blowing. It looks like this album is going to be a bit of a disappointment after Free Fall 1.
That would be pretty hard to do.  ;D

(https://www.troll.me/images/lets-assume/this-is-where-you-get-the-fuck-out.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2015, 05:17:55 PM
 :lol

OK, I'm going..
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 22, 2015, 05:53:40 PM
:lol

OK, I'm going..

Are you going to hide back out at the TAC roulette thread?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2015, 05:58:48 PM
:lol

OK, I'm going..

Or stay and discuss your new found Winger love.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2015, 06:18:14 PM
I'm going with JJ's option! ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2015, 06:23:12 PM
That's good, plenty of Winger love in there too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on October 22, 2015, 06:32:17 PM
That's good, plenty of Winger love in there too.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9DMMuoTGPlU/TJD0s8YE8oI/AAAAAAAAALQ/kvKOMzNalLM/s640/91290494-1372-4215-bb83-75ab101bee7c.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 22, 2015, 06:51:01 PM
 :rollin
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2015, 04:14:15 AM
New Find Me song.  Really fucking good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz3JFNT3qgc
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 25, 2015, 04:24:11 AM
Sounds nice, very similar to the previous album, which I still have to give a proper listen to. Nothing new at all, but it's done pretty well. I really like his vocals.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on October 25, 2015, 04:25:38 AM
New Find Me song.  Really fucking good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz3JFNT3qgc
Yeah not bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2015, 04:28:19 AM
Sounds nice, very similar to the previous album, which I still have to give a proper listen to. Nothing new at all, but it's done pretty well. I really like his vocals.

His vocals are amazing.  Check out Blanc Faces Blob, it's softer but I think you'll like them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 25, 2015, 04:32:34 AM
Sounds nice, very similar to the previous album, which I still have to give a proper listen to. Nothing new at all, but it's done pretty well. I really like his vocals.

His vocals are amazing.  Check out Blanc Faces Blob, it's softer but I think you'll like them.

I'm pretty sure someone (possibly you) recommended that one to me once before, at the time of the last Find Me album. :lol
Just checking it out on Spotify right now. Definitely sounds up my alley.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2015, 05:26:36 AM
The last album, Falling From the Moon was the best out of the two IMO, great AOR.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 25, 2015, 06:35:49 AM
There's more than one? That's the one I'm listening to, and is the only one I saw on Spotify.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 25, 2015, 06:38:36 AM
there is a debut self-titled album from 2005
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on October 25, 2015, 06:55:25 AM
It always bothers me when Spotify has some but not all albums of a particular artist. I realise why it happens of course and having some is better than having nothing, but still. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 25, 2015, 10:58:42 AM
Not bad. Just enough oomph to get the nod chez Lowdz. The sort of thing where I struggle with a whole albums worth unless there's some diversity going on.

I like the vocals. Just enough grit to not be too sugary.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2015, 10:42:14 PM
there is a debut self-titled album from 2005

It's decent, but I like the second one quite a bit more.  Saying that though, I don't remember too much from the first, should go back and listen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Art on October 29, 2015, 08:39:42 AM
Im really liking this second Free Fall record. The song with Tony Martin is amazing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2015, 04:11:57 PM
Im really liking this second Free Fall record. The song with Tony Martin is amazing.

Damn you people!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 29, 2015, 04:43:29 PM
Tell me about it.  One more week!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2015, 04:56:56 PM
Tell me about it.  One more week!

Gonna spend the cash to get this and the VP express post I think.  I don't think there's any way I'll get these in store.  >:(
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 29, 2015, 05:08:54 PM
Im really liking this second Free Fall record. The song with Tony Martin is amazing.

Looking forward to this Tony Martin tune!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on October 29, 2015, 05:10:29 PM
Im really liking this second Free Fall record. The song with Tony Martin is amazing.

Looking forward to this Tony Martin tune!

I reckon.  Expectations are probably too high now.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on October 29, 2015, 08:42:03 PM
Im really liking this second Free Fall record. The song with Tony Martin is amazing.

Looking forward to this Tony Martin tune!

I reckon.  Expectations are probably too high now.  :lol

yup lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on November 07, 2015, 08:39:17 AM
Gave Kiske/Somerville another shot. First album is still pretty meh, but City of Heroes is great. Kiske's annoying vibrato and just overall lackluster songs ruin the first album for me. Glad he toned it down for the second one. Also glad Amanda got more parts to sing. She's always great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2015, 03:06:26 AM
I like the second one.  Although IMO Amanda is way too prominent.  Every chorus all you can really hear is her, Kiske definitely takes a back seat.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2015, 03:20:00 AM
Another Find Me song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoCQipdeZNs

Really good stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 08, 2015, 03:24:22 AM
I've only just gotten into the last album, and it's damn solid stuff. Been listening to it a lot lately.
The new songs haven't grabbed me at this point, although they'd be fine album tracks.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on November 08, 2015, 03:26:50 AM
The intro and verses in that one remind me of something, can't put my finger on it though. I hate when that happens.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2015, 03:35:23 AM
Just sounds like most other melodic rock AOR type songs.  Pretty basic and generic, but good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 08, 2015, 05:43:58 AM
I've only just gotten into the last album, and it's damn solid stuff. Been listening to it a lot lately.
The new songs haven't grabbed me at this point, although they'd be fine album tracks.

Wait... you and Kade agree on something (musically)?

:wtf:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 08, 2015, 05:45:45 AM
That's one down............ :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 08, 2015, 05:52:00 AM
I've only just gotten into the last album, and it's damn solid stuff. Been listening to it a lot lately.
The new songs haven't grabbed me at this point, although they'd be fine album tracks.

Wait... you and Kade agree on something (musically)?

:wtf:

Part of the statistically anomalous overlap in the Venn diagram that is my musical tastes, and DTF. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on November 08, 2015, 10:58:16 AM
I like the second one.  Although IMO Amanda is way too prominent.  Every chorus all you can really hear is her, Kiske definitely takes a back seat.

You say that like it's a bad thing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2015, 08:02:25 PM
I've only just gotten into the last album, and it's damn solid stuff. Been listening to it a lot lately.
The new songs haven't grabbed me at this point, although they'd be fine album tracks.

Wait... you and Kade agree on something (musically)?

:wtf:

Part of the statistically anomalous overlap in the Venn diagram that is my musical tastes, and DTF. :lol

I feel special.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2015, 08:02:41 PM
I like the second one.  Although IMO Amanda is way too prominent.  Every chorus all you can really hear is her, Kiske definitely takes a back seat.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Eh, yes and no.  It's all good really.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: NotePad on November 09, 2015, 01:12:28 PM
I don't really know any AOR bands. What are some currently popular AOR bands?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 09, 2015, 03:29:49 PM
I don't really know any AOR bands. What are some currently popular AOR bands?

I don't think there are many currently popular AOR bands. It was all a long time ago.

Try the last couple of albums by Eclipse, HEAT, Leverage...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2015, 03:45:52 PM
I don't really know any AOR bands. What are some currently popular AOR bands?

I don't think there are many currently popular AOR bands. It was all a long time ago.


A loooooooooong time ago!  :D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 09, 2015, 04:55:15 PM
I don't really know any AOR bands. What are some currently popular AOR bands?

If you have the time, go through this thread.  Great resource for AOR bands.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2015, 08:31:45 PM
Yep, 100 pages worth.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 10, 2015, 05:38:28 PM
Digging Kingdom of Rock; you knew what you were going to get with this one.  Similar to the first one, very solid overall.

The Tony Martin tune is without question my favorite from the album and would probably be neck and neck with Russell's song from the first one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2015, 05:48:11 PM
The Tony Martin tune is without question my favorite from the album and would probably be neck and neck with Russell's song from the first one.

That's nice, real nice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Big Hath on November 10, 2015, 10:53:00 PM
kind of a weird question, but has anyone here transcribed Harem Scarem's "Jealousy" or maybe have access to any sheet music by chance?  I can find the tabs online, but what I'm really after are the chord names themselves (tabs are lacking in that department).  I'm getting a new digital piano (after several years of not having one at all) and that strikes me as a song I'd like to learn to play on it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 10, 2015, 11:31:47 PM
Tried for you Hath but I gave up guitar/transcribing not long after this album came out and , as you say , there doesn't seem to be simple sheet music about on the internet.  I don't have "the ear" any more to just wing it either.  There is a site I found that highlights the guitar tab music on a keyboard but it sounds pretty rough to me and not what you're really after..
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Big Hath on November 11, 2015, 12:04:06 AM
Appreciate it. I can transcribe single notes pretty well, like bass lines, solos, and melodies, but when it comes to chords it's tough sledding. Mind sharing that site? It might at least give me a start at it.

The alternative is if anybody reads guitar tab well enough to quickly jot down the main chords then I could fill in the rest.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 11, 2015, 01:34:53 AM
It's never been a strong point of mine. I've been able to lift riffs and fake parts over the years but I was one of those guys - the ones that just want to shred and not bother with that boring rhythm stuff  :lol

I don't have much of a musical memory either so I soon forget what I do pick up, and even worse, forget the riffs and melodies I come up with.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 11, 2015, 03:59:42 AM
I'm good with basic chords, but Pete seems pretty smart and vast with his knowledge on chords and theory.  Some of their songs I've noticed a quite complex in terms of the rhythms.  Never tried to play anything by them though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 11, 2015, 04:02:02 AM
Kade is the guitar master, I'm sure he could figure it out within seconds
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 11, 2015, 04:07:51 AM
Haha, thanks bro.  Maybe I'll have a go if I get some free time.   :tup

Just reading your post properly again, I could probably give you some of the chords if there are tabs out there.  As Brent said though, surely there's a website where you can put in the tabs or something and it gives you the name of the chords.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 11, 2015, 04:15:24 AM
Thinking about this makes me a bit sad..........15 years of playing/studying and a little while teaching and now 20 years later I can barely remember a thing  :-\

Anyway Hath........are you trying to figure out the actual chords Pete plays or the key that each section is in that could be strummed along.........if you know what I mean?  Even though the specific chord may not be played the old sheet music used to have the "chord"/key that each section was based on running along the top.

So the site I found was this -put your cursor over the little fretboard at the top and you can change the format  to keyboard.

https://www.911tabs.com/link/?8971795


Another idea that I remember recommending to a friend at one point is that there are websites that have reverse chord finders.  it may not technically be a "chord" but if you're good enough to read the tab and know what the notes are then on this website (as an example) there are various sections where it will look at the usual relationships within a chord (3rds, 5ths etc...) and name the chord and then also show you how to play it on a keyboard.

So for example the opening 3 noter in the song according to that transcription has the notes B,F,A which is  like a F inversion with the third and flat 5.

So go here............

 https://www.scales-chords.com/chordid.php

type B,F,A into the drop down menus and tick "only use these notes"

Once it gives you a chord (or something like it) you can click on the link to show it on a keyboard


Hope that helps a little - it's quite a useful website.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 11, 2015, 04:29:55 AM
The second one is what I was sort of thinking of.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 11, 2015, 04:30:23 AM
Haha, thanks bro.  Maybe I'll have a go if I get some free time.   :tup

Just reading your post properly again, I could probably give you some of the chords if there are tabs out there.  As Brent said though, surely there's a website where you can put in the tabs or something and it gives you the name of the chords.

I'm sure I've heard of iPhone apps that do that - you put the notes and it tells you what chord.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Big Hath on November 11, 2015, 05:19:00 AM
Anyway Hath........are you trying to figure out the actual chords Pete plays or the key that each section is in that could be strummed along.........if you know what I mean?  Even though the specific chord may not be played the old sheet music used to have the "chord"/key that each section was based on running along the top.

so yeah, just the actual chords he's playing, G minor, B flat7, etc.  Of course, I noticed on one of the tabs that he was playing it detuned, so that might make it extra fun.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2015, 04:23:25 AM
Harem Scarem - Garden of Eden live audio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHS0JhHm_jY

It's performed well, but like that No Justice clip, the band just seem to lack energy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2015, 07:37:15 AM
That's a shock! ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 19, 2015, 07:57:44 AM
That's a shock! ;D

TAC Roulette v2 better have a Harem Scarem round.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 19, 2015, 08:50:30 AM
The TAC Death Metal Roulette

Participants:

wolfking vs Big Hath
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Big Hath on November 19, 2015, 08:52:37 AM
I'd throw my hat in that ring
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 19, 2015, 08:54:02 AM
Straight through to the final  :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 19, 2015, 08:57:04 AM
the growlier the better  :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Big Hath on November 19, 2015, 09:06:48 AM
RAWWWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 19, 2015, 09:12:31 AM
We're talking growls in the AOR thread, there should be a law against that!  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 19, 2015, 11:18:17 AM
New inglorious track. They certainly rock more than I was expecting. Nothing pink and fluffy here.

https://classicrock.teamrock.com/news/2015-11-19/inglorious-release-until-i-die-video
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2015, 12:33:35 PM
The TAC Death Metal Roulette

Participants:

wolfking vs Big Hath
:metal

Growl Round!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on November 19, 2015, 02:55:05 PM
The TAC Death Metal Roulette

Participants:

wolfking vs Big Hath
:metal

Growl Round!!

Another win for Wolf!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2015, 03:31:00 PM
The TAC Death Metal Roulette

Participants:

wolfking vs Big Hath
:metal

Growl Round!!

Another win for Wolf!!

Yeah buddy.

Actually, Hath would be a top challenge, I think he might have me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2015, 04:34:30 AM
New inglorious track. They certainly rock more than I was expecting. Nothing pink and fluffy here.

https://classicrock.teamrock.com/news/2015-11-19/inglorious-release-until-i-die-video

Meh, so unoriginal.

The riff I'm sure is an Audioslave riff or something.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2015, 07:45:25 PM
Andrew from mr.com is about to announce a MRfest in Melbourne..........you might need to make that trip down Kade  :metal

Having said that I am struggling to think who he can get locally who is going to appeal to me - unless he has got Roxus back together.  That would be a trip.

I can almost guarantee it'll be current local bands like Radio Sun (who don't interest me) , but no idea who the old timers and overseas bands might be.  Hopefully we will be pleasantly surprised.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 30, 2015, 07:52:56 PM
I can't imagine it being worth bringing down any of the overseas bands given the niche appeal. Most of these bands probably barely tour outside of their own country as it is.
I'm not familiar with the local offerings, but it's cool that they're trying it out at all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2015, 07:55:51 PM
I can't see any big overseas bands making it out but possibly 2nd tier guys who have spent a lot of time (or lived)in Australia..................Paul Laine, Mike Tramp etc....

I still can't believe I didn't bother to go and see Winger/Ratt on tour in 2007  :\  but bands of that calibre likely won't be coming for what is effectively a large pub gig.

I have fingers and toes crossed he can lure Jeff Scott Soto back out here.........then I would be going fo' sho'.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 30, 2015, 08:05:39 PM
It will be interesting to see what they pull together in terms of venue and line-up. The payment for most bands will probably be a free boat ride here, and some food stamps.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 30, 2015, 08:10:09 PM
You never know what bands might look at it as a 'break-even' or compensated vacation/trip to Oz.  I always wonder how many bands that tour NA do it for that reason.  For instance, the Kamelot show I went to the other night... no way there were more than 300 people there.  Hard to know how the venue staff, band, and crew all got paid.  Gate + merch + alcohol couldn't have justified it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2015, 08:12:06 PM
We already know the venue...........it's an old British style pub in St Kilda with a stage/function room.  At a guess it could squeeze in 400 people so that's about the scale of it.  These days some of the big 80's hair bands can struggle to draw 500 people in the US, so that's not as small as it might sound I suppose :lol

And yeah...........some of the artists who have been heavily promoted by Andrew over the years might do it for a paid holiday to support him.

He's going to try selling VIP packages , so he better have someone with some profile or it'll fall flat.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 30, 2015, 08:14:42 PM
You never know what bands might look at it as a 'break-even' or compensated vacation/trip to Oz.  I always wonder how many bands that tour NA do it for that reason.  For instance, the Kamelot show I went to the other night... no way there were more than 300 people there.  Hard to know how the venue staff, band, and crew all got paid.  Gate + merch + alcohol couldn't have justified it.

Although I was joking, that's kinda what I was hinting at. I can't imagine it's worth it for money alone given the appeal of these bands and the size of the show.
There are many bands that have toured here that I doubt make a profit, playing to a couple of hundred people in a bar or uni.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 30, 2015, 08:20:44 PM
You never know what bands might look at it as a 'break-even' or compensated vacation/trip to Oz.  I always wonder how many bands that tour NA do it for that reason.  For instance, the Kamelot show I went to the other night... no way there were more than 300 people there.  Hard to know how the venue staff, band, and crew all got paid.  Gate + merch + alcohol couldn't have justified it.

Although I was joking, that's kinda what I was hinting at. I can't imagine it's worth it for money alone given the appeal of these bands and the size of the show.
There are many bands that have toured here that I doubt make a profit, playing to a couple of hundred people in a bar or uni.

Yeah, I see that now - I must've missed the "another post" warning when I posted mine.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 30, 2015, 08:24:05 PM
I actually thought you were replying to my post anyway.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 30, 2015, 08:32:14 PM
I actually thought you were replying to my post anyway.

Yeah, you're right.  That's what I was doing.     ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 30, 2015, 08:36:29 PM
That's what I thought.  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2015, 04:01:32 AM
If the lineup was worth it, a trip down Brent could be a possibility.  As already discussed though, it's hard to see who they will get that would make it a high profile show.  They would have to branch out and go for your more Lord, Vanishing Point, Black Majesty type bands aswell you'd think.  I think they would only get one big act from overseas, maybe two, but you think it would be a lot of local, unsigned acts too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2015, 04:06:18 AM
I would be surprised Kade if he goes down the power metal track.   He has ruled out JSS for this one .   I'd like to think he might be able to pull off something like Danger Danger but we'll see.

I'll stick with my Paul Laine/Radio Sun and Mike Tramp predictions and see if I snag one of those  :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2015, 04:15:22 AM
Radio Sun is a definite.  But remember, Steve from Black Majesty plays in that band so you never know.  But you're probably right.

I just don't see how he'd fill two days of quality, but you never know. 

Maybe he can get WOA, we'd all love that. I definitely get there.  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 01, 2015, 04:41:11 AM

Maybe he can get WOA, we'd all love that. I definitely get there.  ;D

That might work -we only need to hear one song and then we can piss off to the bar :lol .
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 01, 2015, 04:46:24 AM

Maybe he can get WOA, we'd all love that. I definitely get there.  ;D

That might work -we only need to hear one song and then we can piss off to the bar :lol .

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3cQAi8b7uCs/UOhNrXyVIhI/AAAAAAAAEps/4vApVPet2x4/s1600/Asian-Troll-Face.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: gazinwales on December 02, 2015, 02:55:10 AM
I'd come down too, if the line up were strong enough.
Local bands would be cheaper, Vanishing Point and Eyefear are both from the Melbourne area.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 02, 2015, 04:07:52 AM
I'd come down too, if the line up were strong enough.
Local bands would be cheaper, Vanishing Point and Eyefear are both from the Melbourne area.

Yeah man, he'd have to go down the path of these bands to make it worthwhile, surely.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2015, 03:05:05 AM
mrfest roster for Melbourne..................plenty there that I have no real interest in but Vanishing Point, Paul Laine, Black Majesty (acoustic only :(  ) ,Mitch Malloy, White Widdow are probably worth the coin.


FRIDAY MAY 13 (from 5pm)(Acoustic/Electric):
($35)
 
Kaato (full band set)
Vanishing Point (full band set)
Tonk (full band set)
Paul Laine (unplugged)
Black Majesty (exclusive unplugged set)
The Radio Sun (unplugged)
 
+ Special Guest/s to be announced!
 
 
SATURDAY MAY 14 (from 2pm):
($65)
 
Eclipse
Paul Laine
Mitch Malloy
BB Steal
White Widdow
The Radio Sun
Serpentine Sky
Teargas
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 04, 2015, 03:11:47 AM
I've never heard of any of those bands before. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2015, 03:12:11 AM
The only one I've really heard of is Eclipse. Nothing of interest to me in the lineup, but the price isn't bad if you're into it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2015, 03:14:48 AM
I've never heard of any of those bands before.

Most of the ones I listed are underground melodic rock , but I thought you would know Black Majesty/Vanishing Point.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2015, 04:46:18 AM
Wow, Eclipse, that's cool.

Vanishing Point I've seen live and are entertaining.  Clack Majesty acoustic is a fucking joke though. White Widdow are pretty cool though.  The $65 for the Saturday is a good price.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2015, 04:59:34 AM
So should I prepare Melbourne for the wolfking?  ;D  And Clack Majesty? :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2015, 05:14:40 AM
Nah, not with that.  Put VP on the Saturday and add another band and you may have my interest.

Seriously, Black Majesty acoustic, what the fuck?!  Saying that the acoustic version of Guardian on the second album is decent enough.  They might just play Six Ribbons over and over again.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2015, 05:20:17 AM
yeah ............I get that.   My sister is pretty into most of my music but she wouldn't have heard of anyone bar Paul Laine.   Normally I would be able to put together a little group to support the gig but it's a bit hard to convince people to pay up for bands they've never heard of.  Most of those local bands don't interest me , although White Widdow are pretty good.

And there's 100 VIP passes but I reckon for that you need at least a 2nd tier name like a Danger Danger or Jeff Scott Soto.  I'm pretty big into underground melodic rock but I really couldn't be stuffed paying to hang out with Erik Martensson to be honest.   Paul Laine is good value I hear but I'm having to motivate myself to go , which ain't a great sign.  I hope it does well for Andrew and I will try and make the Saturday but I don't know how he'll go getting 400 people in there.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2015, 05:23:47 AM
I'm pretty big into underground melodic rock but I really couldn't be stuffed paying to hang out with Erik Martensson to be honest.

 :lol  That made me laugh for some reason.  Just tell him to work with Toby Hitchcock and that's about it haha.

You're right though, another name like JSS, D2 or Winger and then we're talking.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2015, 05:27:15 AM
Just got the new Find Me album, which just came out. Haven't listened to it yet though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on December 04, 2015, 05:32:05 AM
Just got the new Find Me album, which just came out. Haven't listened to it yet though.
It's not bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2015, 06:03:05 AM
Just got the new Find Me album, which just came out. Haven't listened to it yet though.
It's not bad.

Yeah. I'm enjoying it so far, similarly to the last one. Again it's very safe, but again also a solid listen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 04, 2015, 02:33:20 PM
yeah ............I get that.   My sister is pretty into most of my music but she wouldn't have heard of anyone bar Paul Laine.   Normally I would be able to put together a little group to support the gig but it's a bit hard to convince people to pay up for bands they've never heard of.  Most of those local bands don't interest me , although White Widdow are pretty good.

And there's 100 VIP passes but I reckon for that you need at least a 2nd tier name like a Danger Danger or Jeff Scott Soto.  I'm pretty big into underground melodic rock but I really couldn't be stuffed paying to hang out with Erik Martensson to be honest.   Paul Laine is good value I hear but I'm having to motivate myself to go , which ain't a great sign.  I hope it does well for Andrew and I will try and make the Saturday but I don't know how he'll go getting 400 people in there.

Have you heard the Serpentine Sky yet? It's straight out of 1985. Kinda like where Bon Jovi would've gone after 7800 F without des child and  Bruce fairburn. I like it. Singer sounds like a cross between JBJ and Eric Martin.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 04, 2015, 03:03:03 PM
Just sampled a song or two and thought it was alright. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2015, 03:18:50 PM
One for me to check out then.

Just got the new Find Me album, which just came out. Haven't listened to it yet though.
It's not bad.

Yeah. I'm enjoying it so far, similarly to the last one. Again it's very safe, but again also a solid listen.

I'm looking forward to it.  Although I'll have to order it online.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 04, 2015, 09:08:45 PM
Just got the new Find Me album, which just came out. Haven't listened to it yet though.
It's not bad.

Yeah. I'm enjoying it so far, similarly to the last one. Again it's very safe, but again also a solid listen.

I'm looking forward to it.  Although I'll have to order it online.

If you enjoyed the last one, I expect you'll enjoy this one. I think this one might be a bit more soft and '80s, but the last one was already pretty soft and '80s. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2015, 03:30:07 AM
Just got the new Find Me album, which just came out. Haven't listened to it yet though.
It's not bad.

Yeah. I'm enjoying it so far, similarly to the last one. Again it's very safe, but again also a solid listen.

I'm looking forward to it.  Although I'll have to order it online.

If you enjoyed the last one, I expect you'll enjoy this one. I think this one might be a bit more soft and '80s, but the last one was already pretty soft and '80s. :lol

No doubt I'll like it.  I thought the first one was quite brilliant actually.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 06, 2015, 09:28:47 PM
Just had my first listen to the Find Me - like the debut it's quality (and I have always liked his voice) but it rocks less and I think it's a few killer tracks short of the first.

Solid from start to finish though.  Around 81% for me.

Fav track:  Where Do I Go?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 06, 2015, 09:56:46 PM
Just had my first listen to the Find Me - like the debut it's quality (and I have always liked his voice) but it rocks less and I think it's a few killer tracks short of the first.

I agree with that assessment. Like the first album, an easy listen from start to finish, but there were more standout tracks for me on the first album. I'm still enjoying it though.
My favourite track is probably either the opener, or Midnight Memories?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 07, 2015, 08:12:19 AM
I think with these Frontiers albums it's the lack of identity that kills them for me. The bands from back n the day had their own sound, especially the guitars, and I just don't hear that anymore.
I'm not too inclined to chase these albums as it seems like it's more of the same. Might Apple Music them at some point.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 07, 2015, 08:15:08 AM
Yep - and although it needs more listens I agree to a large extent with you guys about the Voodoo Circle.  In many ways it is just as derivative as the others , but it has enough soul and individuality in other parts that I think it has the potential to grow where as the others really don't.

I rated the VC 85% on first listen and it could get up to high 80's if I can spend some time with it.  Readman was starting to sound a bit stale in PC69 to me and this is a good vehicle to freshen him up for my ears.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2015, 08:18:40 AM
I think with these Frontiers albums it's the lack of identity that kills them for me. The bands from back n the day had their own sound, especially the guitars, and I just don't hear that anymore.
I'm not too inclined to chase these albums as it seems like it's more of the same. Might Apple Music them at some point.

I know what you mean. I know we've discussed it before several times, but it really does sound like a lot of these Frontiers albums come off the production line, same style, same production, just mix and match a few players. It makes it harder for many of these albums to really stick out from the pack.
That's why I'm pretty ruthless with their stuff. The vocalist is usually the first make or break factor, as is the production. There are some gems, but often it's not worth the sifting to find them.

Yep - and although it needs more listens I agree to a large extent with you guys about the Voodoo Circle.  In many ways it is just as derivative as the others , but it has enough soul and individuality in other parts that I think it has the potential to grow where as the others really don't.

I rated the VC 85% on first listen and it could get up to high 80's if I can spend some time with it.  Readman was starting to sound a bit stale in PC69 to me and this is a good vehicle to freshen him up for my ears.

While it's just as derivative as their previous albums, I feel like it comes more naturally to them now, like that's just their true sound, rather than sounding like covering Whitesnake songs, if that makes sense. I'd rate it a 9/10 (I can't split hairs for percentages). As I said, I love this album, and this is one I'll be listening to for a long time.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2015, 01:29:13 PM
The Frontiers stuff doesn't interest me as much as it did a few years ago, but at least they are slowing it down a bit lately.  I'll always listen though but am harder to please these days.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 07, 2015, 02:57:25 PM
Just finishing a listen to Blood Red Saints - pretty much ditto what I thought about Find Me and Khymera (minus a couple of % points).
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 07, 2015, 08:10:23 PM
What I expected. I didn't mind the style and writing on the Blood Red Saints single(s), but the vocals were too pitch corrected for my taste which put me off bothering with the album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2015, 04:26:07 AM
I probably won't bother with that one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 14, 2015, 10:05:16 AM
A new Last in Line song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjau_WN2v3U

Sounds like they're trying a high speed Dio rocker, but I don't find it very catchy or memorable.
I love the production, the vocals, and the energy, but the songwriting is lacking so far for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 14, 2015, 03:02:58 PM
A new Last in Line song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjau_WN2v3U

Sounds like they're trying a high speed Dio rocker, but I don't find it very catchy or memorable.
I love the production, the vocals, and the energy, but the songwriting is lacking so far for me.

I found this Last in Line song to be much better then the first one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 14, 2015, 03:48:58 PM
Just posted about it in the Hard a Rock / metal thread. A step up from the last song. As blob says great vocal. I liked the solo. It's missing the keys though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 14, 2015, 07:49:39 PM
A new Last in Line song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjau_WN2v3U

Sounds like they're trying a high speed Dio rocker, but I don't find it very catchy or memorable.
I love the production, the vocals, and the energy, but the songwriting is lacking so far for me.

I found this Last in Line song to be much better then the first one.

I thought the first song was better written, but I'm hoping for more songs in the style of the second one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 14, 2015, 07:55:40 PM
Will have to check it out later at home.  Wasn't a fan of the first song, but I only listened to it once.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2015, 04:24:30 AM
A new Last in Line song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjau_WN2v3U

Sounds like they're trying a high speed Dio rocker, but I don't find it very catchy or memorable.
I love the production, the vocals, and the energy, but the songwriting is lacking so far for me.

Pretty much agree with you Blob, wow.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2015, 04:44:23 AM
Another Nordic Union song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2I0Be8A5RU

This one is basically a rip off of Brothers in Arms from the first WET cd.  I don't know why this is pissing me off so much, so blatant.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 17, 2015, 05:17:08 AM
Thankfully, I don't know enough of W.E.T., so it ain't gonna bother me.  Decent enough song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 17, 2015, 11:39:56 AM
Another Nordic Union song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2I0Be8A5RU

This one is basically a rip off of Brothers in Arms from the first WET cd.  I don't know why this is pissing me off so much, so blatant.

Youre spot on Kade.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2015, 08:27:30 PM
Thanks Paul, it's really annoying me actually.

Thankfully, I don't know enough of W.E.T., so it ain't gonna bother me.  Decent enough song.

That's a plus for you, but someone that knows the first album well, this is quite laughable.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 19, 2015, 05:36:32 AM
Erik Gronwall (solo) from H.E.A.T. has been added to the Aussie Melodicrockfest..........that might just swing it for me.  I'm not over the moon about the line up as a whole but he's a crazy (in a good way) live performer and , along with Eclipse, Laine, Malloy on the Saturday , it's now looking pretty decent value.   
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2015, 03:16:58 AM
What's he gonna do solo?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 20, 2015, 05:19:21 AM
What's he gonna do solo?

Generally what they will do there is use one of the other bands (Eclipse etc,....) as a "house band" for him.  I would expect there might be some H.E.A.T. tunes mixed in with some covers. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 20, 2015, 02:27:34 PM
What's he gonna do solo?

Generally what they will do there is use one of the other bands (Eclipse etc,....) as a "house band" for him.  I would expect there might be some H.E.A.T. tunes mixed in with some covers.

He has a couple of solo albums prior to joining H.E.A.T and after Swedish idol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 20, 2015, 06:12:32 PM
If he wants anyone to have a hope of singing along (or not taking a pee break) I would suggest the covers  :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2015, 09:42:22 PM
What's he gonna do solo?

Generally what they will do there is use one of the other bands (Eclipse etc,....) as a "house band" for him.  I would expect there might be some H.E.A.T. tunes mixed in with some covers.

He has a couple of solo albums prior to joining H.E.A.T and after Swedish idol

Huh, no shit.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 21, 2015, 06:53:14 AM
If he wants anyone to have a hope of singing along (or not taking a pee break) I would suggest the covers  :)

Indeed.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Deathless on December 21, 2015, 07:37:23 AM
Not sure if this fits best here... but new Cheap Trick! - "No Direction" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IzfrXKBTjo)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2015, 04:07:54 AM
Got the new Find Me and to be honest on the first listen I was pretty disappointed with the lack of the heavy edge that was present throughout the first album and the more 80's commercial AOR direction. 

On repeated listens though, I have completely changed my mind.  This is just good AOR that Frontiers use to produce consistently.  It is as I said very 80's commercial sounding, but well written, fresh and even though it's certainly nothing new, it doesn't have that generic feel that a lot of Frontiers stuff has been guilty of lately.  Sounds like there has been a bit of an effort put here and the whole thing is well produced, and of course Robbie sounds great.  Production nice too.  Frontiers restoring the faith here, good to see, good album. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 28, 2015, 04:24:33 AM
I wish the album retained a bit of the harder edge, but the first album wasn't exactly heavy anyway, so there wasn't a huge divide.
I just listened to the new one again today actually, and I'd say it's almost as strong as the last one. Both albums are easy to listen to start to finish. In terms of production and style, the new one feels a bit more standard Frontiers to me, but Robbie's vocals and the strength of the songwriting still set it apart above the rest I think.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2015, 04:37:48 AM
Yeah, I think both are at the same quality, just different all round.  But you're right, the first one wasn't really heavy at all, it just gives more of a melodic rock vibe whereas this is a straight AOR vibe. 

The Kenny Loggins cover is fantastic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 28, 2015, 04:44:12 AM
There's a Kenny Loggins cover on there? I''m guessing track 12. It sounds super duper '80s and slightly different in style to the rest.

I think the mix on the first album also helped make it sound slightly heavier. Both albums sound good though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2015, 04:51:57 AM
Yep, track 12, I'm Free.  Great track.  Was in Footloose I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, both sound great indeed.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 28, 2015, 04:57:07 AM
I thought it sounded vaguely familiar, but thought it was just the '80s sound throwing me. Should have figured it was a cover.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 28, 2015, 05:06:54 AM
Guess I should check it out.  I remember thinking the first was a good listen, but nothing wow-worthy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 28, 2015, 05:16:37 AM
Guess I should check it out.  I remember thinking the first was a good listen, but nothing wow-worthy.

Second album is much like the first one, so I expect your opinion will be similar.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2015, 05:18:40 AM
Guess I should check it out.  I remember thinking the first was a good listen, but nothing wow-worthy.

I don't think it will do much for you to be honest Chad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 28, 2015, 05:20:58 AM
Alrighty then, guess I won't bother.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2015, 01:44:26 PM
Alrighty then, guess I won't bother.

I'm not saying don't have a listen though, but I don't think it will knock your socks off.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 28, 2015, 03:10:59 PM
Alrighty then, guess I won't bother.

I'm not saying don't have a listen though, but I don't think it will knock your socks off.

What's better?  Knocking Chad's socks off or floating his boat?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 28, 2015, 03:17:45 PM
Alrighty then, guess I won't bother.

I'm not saying don't have a listen though, but I don't think it will knock your socks off.

What's better?  Knocking Chad's socks off or floating his boat?

Wow'd, or purchase-worthy?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 04:54:55 AM
I had no expectations for this new Harem Scarem DVD but it's actually really fucking enjoyable.  Amazing performances and a pretty good set too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 05, 2016, 06:26:46 AM
I had no expectations for this new Harem Scarem DVD but it's actually really fucking enjoyable.  Amazing performances and a pretty good set too.

:caffeine:

Might have to pick it up now.  I was gonna pass, as I don't have a lot of disposable time to just watch concerts nowadays.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on January 05, 2016, 10:06:00 AM
From the clips I saw, that HS looked pretty solid
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 01:32:01 PM
I had no expectations for this new Harem Scarem DVD but it's actually really fucking enjoyable.  Amazing performances and a pretty good set too.

:caffeine:

Might have to pick it up now.  I was gonna pass, as I don't have a lot of disposable time to just watch concerts nowadays.

I remember you saying you were gonna to be all over it.  I got it just because but the cd's are a good listen too and the concert even though initially it looked like the band lacked a certain energy, they are great to watch and perform the songs brilliantly.  This is one that will get a lot of watches from me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 05, 2016, 02:12:51 PM
I added it to my Amazon order from earlier today.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2016, 02:13:30 PM
 :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 06, 2016, 04:28:51 AM
New Graham Bonnet;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtuQSuAl_bs

This is actually kinda cool.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 06, 2016, 05:22:25 AM
The vocals were too rough for me. They'd work for something bluesier, but they bugged me here. The song wasn't bad underneath that, but nothing special.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on January 06, 2016, 08:43:00 AM
Graham still sounds good
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 06, 2016, 04:19:52 PM
I wouldn't want to hear him go for that chorus live  :lol

Didn't like that at all.

He did sing on a decent Rainbow album, a decent MSG album and that excellent first Alcatrazz album. And night games was a good pop song, so he gets points for that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 07, 2016, 04:04:13 AM
A new song from Resurrection Kings. Another solid rocker. Quite looking forward to this one based on what they've released so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBg-81jOVXA
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2016, 04:22:19 AM
A new song from Resurrection Kings. Another solid rocker. Quite looking forward to this one based on what they've released so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBg-81jOVXA

I don't think it was that impressive to be honest.  Pretty standard and generic.  The solo ripped though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 07, 2016, 06:44:38 AM
Let's be fair here, every single album posted in this thread is pretty standard and generic to some degree. :P

But it's good energetic hard rock, which is actually kinda rare these days imo. It's a welcome break from the endless wimpy production line Frontiers melodic rock, and the generic repetitive double kicker detuned power metal.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 07, 2016, 07:32:00 AM
Nice song. Yes, generic but hits me in the spot better than those squeaky clean Find Me type bands.
I'll probably get this.

Bodes well for the We Can't a Call It Guiffria album Goldy and Eisley are doing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Deathless on January 07, 2016, 07:33:41 AM
Is that Chas West the same one that was in Red Dragon Cartel for a minute? Digging that new Resurrection Kings song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2016, 01:54:45 PM
Let's be fair here, every single album posted in this thread is pretty standard and generic to some degree. :P

But it's good energetic hard rock, which is actually kinda rare these days imo. It's a welcome break from the endless wimpy production line Frontiers melodic rock, and the generic repetitive double kicker detuned power metal.

Did listen to the Rated X?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on January 07, 2016, 07:12:18 PM
Is that Chas West the same one that was in Red Dragon Cartel for a minute? Digging that new Resurrection Kings song.

Chas West was in RDC for half an hour........the guy that followed him was in for one minute.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on January 07, 2016, 07:19:33 PM
Okay, someone recommend some really good AOR/Mel. Rock to me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on January 07, 2016, 07:47:34 PM
No.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 07, 2016, 07:57:04 PM
Let's be fair here, every single album posted in this thread is pretty standard and generic to some degree. :P

But it's good energetic hard rock, which is actually kinda rare these days imo. It's a welcome break from the endless wimpy production line Frontiers melodic rock, and the generic repetitive double kicker detuned power metal.

Did listen to the Rated X?

Yeah, I listened to it once. The playing was annoyingly sloppy as shit, and the songs were bland. JLT was about the only positive, and that wasn't enough to save it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on January 07, 2016, 08:27:27 PM
No.

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Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2016, 08:41:06 PM
Let's be fair here, every single album posted in this thread is pretty standard and generic to some degree. :P

But it's good energetic hard rock, which is actually kinda rare these days imo. It's a welcome break from the endless wimpy production line Frontiers melodic rock, and the generic repetitive double kicker detuned power metal.

Did listen to the Rated X?

Yeah, I listened to it once. The playing was annoyingly sloppy as shit, and the songs were bland. JLT was about the only positive, and that wasn't enough to save it.

That's fair enough.

I'm 3 songs into the Voodoo Circle, not bad, hopefully it picks up a little more.  First track is a cracker.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2016, 08:49:09 PM
Okay, someone recommend some really good AOR/Mel. Rock to me.

109 pages worth back bro.  But;

Any Magnus Karlsson project
Find Me
Eclipse
WET
Toby Hitchcock
Journey
Work of Art
Khymera
HEAT
Europe
Harem Scarem
First Signal
FM
Hardline
Whitesnake
House of Lords
The Poodles
Ten
Vega
Unruly Child
Crazy Lixx
Eden's Curse
Place Vendome

That should get you started.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on January 07, 2016, 08:58:46 PM
Okay, someone recommend some really good AOR/Mel. Rock to me.

109 pages worth back bro.  But;

Any Magnus Karlsson project
Find Me
Eclipse
WET
Toby Hitchcock
Journey
Work of Art
Khymera
HEAT
Europe
Harem Scarem
First Signal
FM
Hardline
Whitesnake
House of Lords
The Poodles
Ten
Vega
Unruly Child
Crazy Lixx
Eden's Curse
Place Vendome

That should get you started.

I know almost all of them. Ten were the band I was trying to think of once before. Fair Warning was another band I really enjoyed years ago. Thanks. I'll start at the top.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2016, 09:17:44 PM
Okay, someone recommend some really good AOR/Mel. Rock to me.

109 pages worth back bro.  But;

Any Magnus Karlsson project
Find Me
Eclipse
WET
Toby Hitchcock
Journey
Work of Art
Khymera
HEAT
Europe
Harem Scarem
First Signal
FM
Hardline
Whitesnake
House of Lords
The Poodles
Ten
Vega
Unruly Child
Crazy Lixx
Eden's Curse
Place Vendome

That should get you started.

I know almost all of them. Ten were the band I was trying to think of once before. Fair Warning was another band I really enjoyed years ago. Thanks. I'll start at the top.

oh
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on January 07, 2016, 09:33:31 PM
Okay, someone recommend some really good AOR/Mel. Rock to me.

109 pages worth back bro.  But;

Any Magnus Karlsson project
Find Me
Eclipse
WET
Toby Hitchcock
Journey
Work of Art
Khymera
HEAT
Europe
Harem Scarem
First Signal
FM
Hardline
Whitesnake
House of Lords
The Poodles
Ten
Vega
Unruly Child
Crazy Lixx
Eden's Curse
Place Vendome

That should get you started.

I know almost all of them. Ten were the band I was trying to think of once before. Fair Warning was another band I really enjoyed years ago. Thanks. I'll start at the top.

oh

My friend worked at a local record store. Every Sunday I'd spend the day there. He'd play a shitload of CDs and most of them were AOR/Melodic rock as that was his favorite genre. Some were really good; some were monotonous. It'll be nice to rediscover some of them. That's why I asked for some recommendations. I knew some of them would be the older bands I used to enjoy listening to. Plus there are a few there I never heard of but that's good. Thanks, again.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Big Hath on January 07, 2016, 09:43:06 PM
A few more.  I suppose some of this borders on/is hard rock.  And you may only get about an albums worth of good stuff from some of them (if that).  Your mileage may vary.

Magnum
Giant
Pretty Maids
Alias
Boulevard
Strangeways
Mark Free/Signal/Unruly Child/King Kobra
Dare
Tyketto
Survivor
Danger Danger
Sunstorm
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on January 07, 2016, 09:52:23 PM
A few more.  I suppose some of this borders on/is hard rock.  And you may only get about an albums worth of good stuff from some of them (if that).  Your mileage may vary.

Magnum
Giant
Pretty Maids
Alias
Boulevard
Strangeways
Mark Free/Signal/Unruly Child/King Kobra
Dare
Tyketto
Survivor
Danger Danger
Sunstorm

Well Tyketto I love. I've seen them live about a dozen times. My best friend was a huge fan of theirs so we would see them constantly. They're really cool guys, too. Especially Jaime(?) the bassist that replaced Michael Clayton (?). I'm hoping I got the names right. Giant's Last of the Runaways was one of my favorite albums for a long time. Danger Danger's Screw It is awesome. A couple of those bands I've never heard but that's fine. It'll give me something new to check out. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 07, 2016, 09:58:57 PM
Night Ranger
Winger
Dokken
From the Inside
Bad English
Talisman
Pride of Lions
Lionville
Fergie Fredreksin
Fredriksen/Denander
Ambition
Shy
Serpentine

Brent will give you 567784 more.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on January 07, 2016, 10:07:36 PM
 :lol

The first 6 on that last list I obviously know. Shy also sounds familiar. The others are new to me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 07, 2016, 11:20:18 PM
Let's be fair here, every single album posted in this thread is pretty standard and generic to some degree. :P

But it's good energetic hard rock, which is actually kinda rare these days imo. It's a welcome break from the endless wimpy production line Frontiers melodic rock, and the generic repetitive double kicker detuned power metal.

Did listen to the Rated X?

Yeah, I listened to it once. The playing was annoyingly sloppy as shit, and the songs were bland. JLT was about the only positive, and that wasn't enough to save it.

That's fair enough.

I'm 3 songs into the Voodoo Circle, not bad, hopefully it picks up a little more.  First track is a cracker.

Tracks 2 & 4 RAWK. The third track is a really awesome song, but it's a slow burner so it seems kinda boring at first. The whole album is damn solid though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2016, 04:37:39 AM
After one listen, it's quite varied but needs a few listens.  Might fav actually might be what seems to be a hidden track at the end, but before the Ain't No Sunshine hidden cover.

The production is top notch and the performances are good.  Could use more heavier numbers like the first one but it's actually quite fresh and interesting and hopefully it grows.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 08, 2016, 04:44:50 AM
After one listen, it's quite varied but needs a few listens.  Might fav actually might be what seems to be a hidden track at the end, but before the Ain't No Sunshine hidden cover.


I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. :lol It looks like there's a bonus track some versions might come with? My version has 11 tracks, and the 11th track is the only dud of the album for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2016, 04:51:24 AM
After one listen, it's quite varied but needs a few listens.  Might fav actually might be what seems to be a hidden track at the end, but before the Ain't No Sunshine hidden cover.


I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. :lol It looks like there's a bonus track some versions might come with? My version has 11 tracks, and the 11th track is the only dud of the album for me.
I thought the less heavy sound might be a factor for you, although they pull off the classic hard rock sound so perfectly on this one.

Mine has 11 tracks too but track 11 goes for 12:50, seems like it has 3 songs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 08, 2016, 04:52:50 AM
After one listen, it's quite varied but needs a few listens.  Might fav actually might be what seems to be a hidden track at the end, but before the Ain't No Sunshine hidden cover.


I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. :lol It looks like there's a bonus track some versions might come with? My version has 11 tracks, and the 11th track is the only dud of the album for me.
I thought the less heavy sound might be a factor for you, although they pull off the classic hard rock sound so perfectly on this one.

Mine has 11 tracks too but track 11 goes for 12:50, seems like it has 3 songs.

Mine is 4:32, so you must have a fancy version with a nugget at the end. I'm nuggetless.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2016, 04:53:48 AM
Yeah, it must be the digi bonus track Coming Home to You.  Get a hold of it Blob.

https://www.amazon.com/Whisky-Fingers-Voodoo-Circle/dp/B015UU7Z5C

I have the standard jewel case and weird that both bonus tracks are hidden.  Might be an error or something.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 08, 2016, 07:07:33 AM
@ Kade... the disappointment is strong for you not mentioning the following:

Axel Rudi Pell
Silent Force
Powerworld
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 08, 2016, 05:09:18 PM
I'd consider ARP and SF more hard rock than melodic rock, but I guess in terms of the last Silent Force, that more than qualifies. 

I know you've pimped Powerworld to me before, but you can save them for my roulette if you like.  :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2016, 05:04:48 AM
New Treat album in April.   :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 27, 2016, 05:07:13 AM
Short retirement  :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 27, 2016, 03:23:50 PM
Short retirement  :)

Good. Too good to retire yet when there's so much mediocre shit out there
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2016, 07:24:33 PM
Short retirement  :)

Good. Too good to retire yet when there's so much mediocre shit out there

Yes, and especially when the last album was fantastic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 28, 2016, 03:23:21 PM
Indeedy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2016, 04:29:41 AM
Haven't spun that album in a while, I should fix that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 03, 2016, 04:43:32 AM
April 15

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01. Ghost Of Graceland
02. I Don't Miss The Misery
03. Better The Devil You Know
04. Do Your Own Stunts
05. Endangered
06. Inferno
07. Alien Earthlings
08. Nonstop Madness
09. Too Late To Die Young
10. House On Fire
11. Together Alone
12. Everything To Everyone
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 19, 2016, 04:47:08 AM
The Defiants project with Laine, Marcello and Ravel out on April 15.  Could be interesting, considering there's been no follow up to the last Danger Danger, this could be the closest we get.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 19, 2016, 05:32:28 AM
Looking forward to that ..........the cover looks  ::) but I expect good music.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 21, 2016, 03:23:46 AM
Looking forward to that ..........the cover looks  ::) but I expect good music.

I have high expectations too, which could be a bad thing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 22, 2016, 05:08:53 AM
Just had a listen to a track from the new Treat (Inferno) - sounds very commercial/pop.   Hopefully it's the We Own The Night of the new album -it's nowhere near as good as that song but the good thing is that the sound is great.   Still looking forward to it - just hoping that this track isn't representative of the rest of the album.

Can be heard on Spotify if anyone's interested.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on February 22, 2016, 05:14:14 AM
Not impressed.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 05:15:44 AM
Shit, that doesn't sound promising.  :-\
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 01:27:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nzEWqve1C8

Had a listen, and I don't mind it, it's a decent melodic pop type songs, but yeah, hopefully it's not a proper representation of the album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 22, 2016, 05:32:30 PM
I've never heard of this band but that song was waayyy too poppy sounding.  Is this their usual sound because that would never be my cup of tea
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 22, 2016, 05:43:52 PM
I've never heard of this band but that song was waayyy too poppy sounding.  Is this their usual sound because that would never be my cup of tea

Nah JJ .   They've never been the most consistent band but they're certainly hard rock and their last album was probably their best.


Here's a couple of better tracks for you..............20 years apart:

The War Is Over (2010)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0rY1NqjcXI

Conspiracy (1989) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4NXZyUlrmw

Back in the day I loved Conspiracy - mostly thanks to the riff and solo . 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 22, 2016, 06:16:10 PM
much much better!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2016, 08:21:13 PM
Yeah, I never delved that much into their earlier stuff.  The last album is brilliant.  I have a best of, but even that's pretty spotty IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2016, 04:44:29 AM
New Vega on May 13.  I'm really excited about this one, big fan.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 23, 2016, 11:20:48 AM
Yeah, I never delved that much into their earlier stuff.  The last album is brilliant.  I have a best of, but even that's pretty spotty IMO.

As Brent said, they were very hit and miss and never really nailed it for a full album. The last one was all kinds of awesome though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
Yeah, I never delved that much into their earlier stuff.  The last album is brilliant.  I have a best of, but even that's pretty spotty IMO.

As Brent said, they were very hit and miss and never really nailed it for a full album. The last one was all kinds of awesome though.

Sure is.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2016, 04:23:11 AM
New Sunstorm!

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/joe-lynn-turner-goes-harder-stronger-and-heavier-on-new-sunstorm-album-edge-of-tomorrow/

With Simone from DGM and the last Epysode on guitar!!!  And the new Primal Fear drummer.

Fuck, Uwe was always the guitar sound for Sunstorm with Dennis Wards influence, but I guess Allessandro hasn't done anything for about six weeks, so he was due.

Looking forward to this one, I really liked the last one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 25, 2016, 05:33:01 AM
That sounds interesting. Still, Joe should have been part of the Rainbow reunion
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2016, 01:22:43 PM
Yeah.  I think there was an article where he slammed Blackmore too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 25, 2016, 02:22:49 PM
Yeah.  I think there was an article where he slammed Blackmore too.

OK we're broken up for the rest of the day!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Hanz Gruber on February 25, 2016, 02:45:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuA18YpjOD8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuA18YpjOD8)

Book of Shadows 2 (Zakk Wylde) is coming out soon.

Up above is the 1st single.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2016, 03:07:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuA18YpjOD8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuA18YpjOD8)

Book of Shadows 2 (Zakk Wylde) is coming out soon.

Up above is the 1st single.

What do you guys think?

Boring, not for me.  I won't be checking it out.  Even his solo is nothing special at all. I'll wait for the next BLS.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Podaar on February 25, 2016, 03:09:31 PM
It wasn't what I was expecting, and I mean that in the best possible sense. Still, it's not really my thing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on February 25, 2016, 03:16:55 PM
not my thing at all
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 01, 2016, 05:25:11 AM
A track from the upcoming Defiants release. (Laine, Ravel, Marcello)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WsGrfeuFuc

A mix of D2 and the Marcello Vestry album if you ask me.  I actually think this is really good melodic rock.  Really excited for this now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 01, 2016, 05:34:26 AM
Sounds nice... a little too powder puff for me though.  Could be because I'm listening to Dream Evil at the moment, so changing gears to this was a bit of a shock.   :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 01, 2016, 05:47:47 AM
Pretty good.........I expect there will be at least a few killer songs on this release.  I wouldn't say this is necessarily one of them , but it's solid enough to keep me anticipating it.   Nice guitar work from Rob as usual.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 01, 2016, 05:50:03 AM
Listened to it earlier. Very generic sounding melodic metal/rock. If they release something better from the album, I might still have a passing interest in it, but probably a pass.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 01, 2016, 09:55:37 AM
Apparently I took another wrong turn and ended up in this thread again.

That song reminded me of the late 80's. In a bad way.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 01, 2016, 10:25:45 AM
It wishes it sounded as awesome as the late '80s. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 01, 2016, 02:34:13 PM
Just caught up with the Treat and Defiants. Hmm, preferred the Defiants tbh, though it was fairly average stuff. Still, I managed to listen all the way through - I turned the Treat track off after about a minute or so and the played the bonus track from Coup de Gras which I'd never heard. That is a really good song, the new one isn't.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NCjg_AlqguA
If you're interested. Brent will know it already  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 01, 2016, 02:47:56 PM
I really liked that Defiants song, did remind me a bit of the last D2 in a few ways.

I'll check that Treat bonus track later.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 01, 2016, 03:06:06 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NCjg_AlqguA
If you're interested. Brent will know it already  :biggrin:

I had it lined up for the podcast  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2016, 05:14:23 AM
Funnily enough, new Ted Poley also, May 13th.  Of course it features you know who, Frontiers pinup boy of the month.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/danger-danger-singer-ted-poley-to-release-beyond-the-fade-solo-album/

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 03, 2016, 05:15:28 AM
Yeah, heard it yesterday. Not surprisingly, it sounds like it was churned out of the Frontiers production line. It's not that it sounds bad, but it sounds just like everything else they've released.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2016, 05:23:11 AM
To be expected with what's his name in there.

The EPK if anyone is interested;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iuc891WCLdw

Sounds alright though, but yeah, we know what we're getting.  Ted seems like a super chill, down to earth guy too.

EDIT:  Can't stand that Issa bitch though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2016, 05:31:31 AM
I'll put on my best Italian Alessandro  accent............  what issa your problem with that Issa biatch ?  :biggrin:

I can't believe the stuff that the melrock crowd rave over these days - I sample stuff like Issa etc.... and wonder why my tastes have diverged so far from the guys I used to be in sync with.

This Martina Edoff thing is getting rave reviews all over.......best album of 2015 etc....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF1xg4tBM9c

I wouldn't call it dire but WTF  ???  Maybe I am not happy enough.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2016, 05:36:30 AM
Pretty hot milf, but that's about it.  Absolute shit song, and Snowy Shaw has sunk to a new low playing this sort of crap.

But seriously, both Issa's albums are absolute horseshit, and she's fucking ugly.

I agreee with you Brent, my tastes keep drifting away and away from this stuff that use to turn me on so much a few years ago too.  It can't be us, surely the quality of the releases are just getting worse and worse.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 03, 2016, 05:36:38 AM
That was like the unwanted lovechild of Eurovision and pub karaoke.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2016, 05:44:13 AM
That was like the unwanted lovechild of Eurovision and pub karaoke.

Still better than that Lee Aaron song/video.

And she looks more like a GILF as opposed to a MILF.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 03, 2016, 05:46:00 AM
That was like the unwanted lovechild of Eurovision and pub karaoke.

Still better than that Lee Aaron song/video.

I don't think I even listened to that one. If it's the one I'm thinking of, I saw about 5 seconds of the music video then closed the tab. Enough said. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 03, 2016, 06:19:37 AM
I always thought that Melodic Rock was one of my favorite music styles but for the last years there are more and more bands and players I've never heard of and when I sample them, the band names are dumb, the album covers are awkward and the music sounds generic as shit and not in a good way. Am I growing old?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 03, 2016, 06:24:53 AM
I think Frontiers music has just committed genericide on the entire genre, watering it down to a production line to make them a quick buck off the people who are still content to listen to the same thing over and over.

There are still some great albums being released in the genre, but it requires wading through more stuff than ever to find it. The genre is past it's heyday though, for sure.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 03, 2016, 10:28:01 AM
A good chunk of these song samples just have too much of a bubble gum/pop sound to it.  I enjoy melodic rock just as much as the next guy, but there needs to be some kind of edge to it.  Just not hearing much of it lately.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 03, 2016, 12:58:07 PM
The problem is that they aren't bands with an identity, just cookie cutter stuff like pop has become. There's no character to any of it and the people singing the songs have no emotional attachment to them because most of the time they haven't written them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2016, 03:27:52 PM
That was like the unwanted lovechild of Eurovision and pub karaoke.

Still better than that Lee Aaron song/video.

And she looks more like a GILF as opposed to a MILF.

Come on bro, she doesn't look that old. Plus being a GILF doesn't make any difference these days when it comes to age haha.

I always thought that Melodic Rock was one of my favorite music styles but for the last years there are more and more bands and players I've never heard of and when I sample them, the band names are dumb, the album covers are awkward and the music sounds generic as shit and not in a good way. Am I growing old?

Sort of what I was asking too.  Not sure if it's me, cause a mere 5 years ago, everything Frontiers was releasing IMO was gold, now it's exactly like everyone is describing here, so I guess it's not us.  Even the Ted Poley EPK sounded quite weak by the end of the vid. 

The problem is that they aren't bands with an identity, just cookie cutter stuff like pop has become. There's no character to any of it and the people singing the songs have no emotional attachment to them because most of the time they haven't written them.


This is true, unless it's a band creating their own music it seems to come off this way.  This Alessandro guy I think seems to actually be one of the worst things for the genre at the moment, but saying that the last Kelly Keeling, Hardline, Revolution Saints and the first Find Me were all really good, so I don't know.

I just think he needs to lay off, I think they should put Karlsson back into the mix a little more, he seems to be one of the only ones that can write a decent memorable album for any singer that's given to him.

I hope the new Sunstorm doesn't turn out to be shit either.  Hoping for some originality and creative songwriting on that one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 03, 2016, 07:35:11 PM
That was like the unwanted lovechild of Eurovision and pub karaoke.

Still better than that Lee Aaron song/video.

And she looks more like a GILF as opposed to a MILF.

Come on bro, she doesn't look that old. Plus being a GILF doesn't make any difference these days when it comes to age haha.

I'm with jingle, but according to the Google she's a lot younger than I guessed she was. Oh dear.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2016, 09:09:31 PM
I guess I just like my milfs.

Looked her up and yeah, I'd would have said going towards mid fifties as oppose to 47 and that's with all the get up, hmm.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2016, 09:14:55 PM
Looks a bit like Mark Free   ;D    She could be a TILF mate :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 03, 2016, 09:37:49 PM
I guess I just like my milfs.


So do I, just not this one. :lol She looks like an embarrassing old groupie.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2016, 10:00:50 PM
I guess I just like my milfs.


So do I, just not this one. :lol She looks like an embarrassing old groupie.

I'd still do her. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zook on March 03, 2016, 10:19:03 PM
The problem is that they aren't bands with an identity, just cookie cutter stuff like pop has become. There's no character to any of it and the people singing the songs have no emotional attachment to them because most of the time they haven't written them.


Unless it's Michael Eriksen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2016, 04:48:52 AM
A follow up to The Magnificent would be most welcome.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 04, 2016, 04:51:10 AM
A follow up to The Magnificent would be most welcome.

esp if the Circus Maximus is as crapola as it seems
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2016, 04:55:45 AM
A follow up to The Magnificent would be most welcome.

esp if the Circus Maximus is as crapola as it seems

Yeah, definitely.  Seems that way.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on March 04, 2016, 06:28:38 AM
Funny, I intended to try to get into Circus Maximus again (my first attempt after my previous roulette didn't end well) with maybe listening to the new album - I even have a promo sitting in my e-mail - but seeing all your reactions to those released songs... I think I'll pass.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2016, 03:45:47 AM
Funny, I intended to try to get into Circus Maximus again (my first attempt after my previous roulette didn't end well) with maybe listening to the new album - I even have a promo sitting in my e-mail - but seeing all your reactions to those released songs... I think I'll pass.

Still worth a listen surely if it's not costing you anything.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Evermind on March 06, 2016, 04:10:10 AM
Yeah, I did listen and wrote my brief thoughts in the band's thread. Pretty meh album IMO.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2016, 05:09:30 AM
Another new Treat song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXgU0Uq-RkA

This is a bit more like it.  Still not really up to the quality of the last one though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 08, 2016, 03:58:50 PM
Not too excited so far. It sounds like the same band, similar feel to the last one but lacking some magic dust. Maybe blasting the whole thing in the car will help. Worked with CdG.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 08, 2016, 04:08:52 PM
Another new Treat song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXgU0Uq-RkA

This is a bit more like it.  Still not really up to the quality of the last one though.

Yeah........much better but missing the balls of CdG.  I think it's a good song but it could do with some of the beef in the guitars from the last album.....seems they are going for a more stripped back, slightly modern sound.   I hear more originality in this than anything on Nordic Union anyway..that's not saying much though  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2016, 09:53:56 PM
haha.

I still don't mind the Nordic Union, it's cool.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 09, 2016, 09:23:44 PM
Only just saw this. Not sure if I'm interested or not. I don't mind Augeri era Journey (don't know what he sounds like now), and it's very local. Tickets are $46 though, which is expected here for some mid range names, but still a bit of money for what it really is.

https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/tour-news/2016/02/22/steve-augeri-robby-steinhardt-tour-australia-legendary-voices-rock
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 09, 2016, 09:35:37 PM
Only just saw this. Not sure if I'm interested or not. I don't mind Augeri era Journey (don't know what he sounds like now), and it's very local. Tickets are $46 though, which is expected here for some mid range names, but still a bit of money for what it really is.

https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/tour-news/2016/02/22/steve-augeri-robby-steinhardt-tour-australia-legendary-voices-rock

Another tour that will struggle I would imagine.  Only diehards in Australia would know who the hell they are.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 09, 2016, 09:42:14 PM
Yeah, hence the bundling together. But does anyone in this country know Kansas? I don't think Journey is near as well known here as in the US (I think when I saw them in 2013 was the first time they've toured here in 30 years if at all), and Steve Augeri is only known to diehards. The place they're playing here would only hold a couple of hundred people seated. It's a small time venue. It's where you'd expect to see washed up local artists from the '70s.
Recently I've been listening to plenty of Augeri, so I'm sorta interested though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 09, 2016, 09:51:49 PM
Will be interesting - and he is hardly "the voice of Kansas" either.  Perhaps the names Journey and Kansas will be enough to attract an unsuspecting crowd thinking they are seeing Perry and Walsh  ;D  And yeah - nobody really knows Kansas out here anyway.  A few metalheads might know Yngwie's version of Carry On My Wayward Son :lol

I would try and find some recent live footage of Augeri too - his voice was shot years ago but I believe he is alright now.  Would still try and check it out though.

If all the Tall Stories fans turn up in force they might sell a couple more tickets  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 09, 2016, 10:12:59 PM
I love that first Tall Stories album! Discovered it a couple of weeks ago, and listened to it every day. :biggrin:

So that's every Tall Stories fan accounted for. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2016, 11:00:31 PM
Only just saw this. Not sure if I'm interested or not. I don't mind Augeri era Journey (don't know what he sounds like now), and it's very local. Tickets are $46 though, which is expected here for some mid range names, but still a bit of money for what it really is.

https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/tour-news/2016/02/22/steve-augeri-robby-steinhardt-tour-australia-legendary-voices-rock

Another tour that will struggle I would imagine.  Only diehards in Australia would know who the hell they are.

I don't see many people going to this.  I liked Steve in Journey though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 09, 2016, 11:43:47 PM
The venue they're playing here doesn't hold many people, so at least they're aiming low. I can't see how it's even worth it for them.
I'm half interested in this, but there's no way I'll find anyone else willing to fork out the money to go with me. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 10, 2016, 01:36:10 AM
Does anybody of you listen to Rick Springfield?

I was kind of a fan in the 80s and have just heard his recent record Rocket Science. It's not bad, rock with a country influence and what you (or I) would expect of him. I could see me liking this even more after a couple of spins.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 05:03:40 AM
Never was a fan of what I've heard of him.  Can't say I've heard that much though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Heavy Metal Hippie on March 10, 2016, 05:13:03 AM
When I first heard about the country influences, it was a bummer, but after actually hearing it, I have too say all those instruments enrich the sound of an already wonderful production. Easily one of the best melodic rock albums of the last few years.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 10, 2016, 05:21:15 AM
Never was a fan of what I've heard of him.  Can't say I've heard that much though.

Ditto............he gets raved about a lot in the melodic rock community ,mostly by people who (these days) rave about a lot of stuff I don't like  :lol    I should give him more of a chance but have just never got around to it.

I did have a "best of" back in the 90's that was okay but made me think "If that's his classics........... :-\  "

Will check out some of his more recent stuff in the not too distant future.

Awesome Star Wars collection he has  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 10, 2016, 05:32:36 AM
I know that he always gets around 100% on mr.com and that's just silly, but I really like a lot of his work. He's not really famous in Germany and I thought maybe in Australia he's bigger.

Working Class Dog, Success Hasn't Spoiled Me Yet and Lving in Oz were/are favorites of mine. Rock Of Life was good too, the rest had some decent tunes. After Karma I lost track of him, but this new one is really good, if you're into this kind of music.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 10, 2016, 12:06:34 PM
I like Jessie's girl but that's about it. Heard a modern rock album of his a few years ago ( might have had anger in the title?) and it was ok but not a fan.
Andrew at melodic rock.com lives up his ass crack.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2016, 01:24:59 PM
Andrew at melodic rock.com lives up his ass crack.

 :lol Too true.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2016, 05:29:03 AM
Shit, this new Defiants is shaping up to be a good comeback for the melodic rock genre;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlpDNrsve00
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 13, 2016, 05:33:59 AM
Very standard fare for the melodic rock genre.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 13, 2016, 01:20:05 PM
decent
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 13, 2016, 02:06:11 PM
That's not bad. Should be a decent album. Nothing super special given the pedigree but better than most of the Frontiers stock albums
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2016, 08:18:54 PM
Very standard fare for the melodic rock genre.

How did I know you would post this sort of response.  :lol

That's not bad. Should be a decent album. Nothing super special given the pedigree but better than most of the Frontiers stock albums

Kind of what I was alluding too, but I really like both songs that have been released.  Laine sounds good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 13, 2016, 08:28:17 PM
Very standard fare for the melodic rock genre.

How did I know you would post this sort of response.  :lol

I am disappointed that Tim hasn't popped in to bag you too  ;D


  Laine sounds good.

He really hasn't appeared on enough albums that use his potential.  He's like JBJ with balls.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 13, 2016, 09:25:05 PM
Very standard fare for the melodic rock genre.

How did I know you would post this sort of response.  :lol


The same reason I can always tell your response. Just assume the opposite. :lol

So in theory we should have every Frontiers album covered between the two of us, right? :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 14, 2016, 05:16:50 AM
Very standard fare for the melodic rock genre.

How did I know you would post this sort of response.  :lol


The same reason I can always tell your response. Just assume the opposite. :lol

So in theory we should have every Frontiers album covered between the two of us, right? :P

Hey now, I've gone pretty cold on Frontiers lately and their output, give me some credit.  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 14, 2016, 05:27:49 AM
At least we have something in common. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2016, 05:39:56 AM
New Issa video......oh wait, it's Ted Poley, my bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDbTPi64ygg

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 16, 2016, 07:47:00 AM
New Sunstorm song. Has this one been posted yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvxGOY0k-Ts

The song itself didn't grab me hugely on first listen, but I'm digging the style and production. Gonna keep an eye on this one.



New Issa video......oh wait, it's Ted Poley, my bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDbTPi64ygg


I think Frontiers is starting to give me diabetes.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 16, 2016, 12:12:09 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 16, 2016, 01:35:58 PM
I did t like the ted Poley track. I've never rated his solo stuff but love him in DD. His solo stuff always sounded "off, as though he was singing flat, but he sounds great in his day job.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2016, 09:43:31 PM
New Sunstorm song. Has this one been posted yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvxGOY0k-Ts

The song itself didn't grab me hugely on first listen, but I'm digging the style and production. Gonna keep an eye on this one.



New Issa video......oh wait, it's Ted Poley, my bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDbTPi64ygg


I think Frontiers is starting to give me diabetes.

Can't listen to the Sunstorm til I get home, but that's a very promising statement from you Blob considering the thread we are in.  :lol

And yeah, haha, even that Poley track I didn't really like either.  Makes Work of Art sound like Soilwork in comparison.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2016, 06:17:27 AM
I actually agree with Blob regarding that Sunstorm song.  It's certainly not the strongest thing I've heard but the style, sound and production could lead to good things for the album.  Not sure where this song is placed but tucked away in the middle of the album would work well.

And Simone is becoming a guitarist I'm really interested in discovering more of, he's incredible and shreds amazingly here.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2016, 06:26:12 AM
New Vega;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sG9b5CQe2M

I know no one is keen on them but me, but I like their style of melodic rock.  IMO they have their own sound and can write a good song.  This one is pretty soft though, hoping for some heavier stuff more in the vein of the last two.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 17, 2016, 06:35:23 AM
I actually didn't mind that at all, even though it was a softy. Might have to check it out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2016, 04:18:37 PM
I actually didn't mind that at all, even though it was a softy. Might have to check it out.

(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/55222667.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 17, 2016, 05:28:51 PM
That does not float my boat at all. Sterile, boring, bollocks. And I'm in a good mood :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 17, 2016, 06:51:12 PM
That does not float my boat at all. Sterile, boring, bollocks. And I'm in a good mood :biggrin:

pretty much your average Sunstorm track.  JLT said this was going to be "melodic metal" ,so hopefully that's not entirely representative.  On a related note (and even though he's a bit of a tool) I saw some recent live footage and he's sounding pretty damn good for his age.  Maybe the fact that his hair is a lot younger than he is helps things.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2016, 06:54:34 PM
That does not float my boat at all. Sterile, boring, bollocks. And I'm in a good mood :biggrin:

pretty much your average Sunstorm track.  JLT said this was going to be "melodic metal" ,so hopefully that's not entirely representative.  On a related note (and even though he's a bit of a tool) I saw some recent live footage and he's sounding pretty damn good for his age.  Maybe the fact that his hair is a lot younger than he is helps things.

I thought Paul was referring to the Vega track.

However in regards to the Sunstorm, it definitely does have a harder edge.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 17, 2016, 06:56:58 PM
Yeah - sorry.    Shows you how much interest I take in Vega  ;D 










To be fair I did like a few tracks on Stereo Messiah , but otherwise I have never really jumped on board with them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2016, 07:02:31 PM
And cause their British, they seem to infuse some of that britpop style in there at times I feel, which I know wouldn't work for most of you.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 17, 2016, 07:07:50 PM
** starts looking up what the fuck britpop is for Kade's roulette.........
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2016, 07:10:05 PM
** starts looking up what the fuck britpop is for Kade's roulette.........

I wouldn't go that far.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 18, 2016, 06:17:11 AM
I don't have a hot clue about britpop but it's safe to say I hate it
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 18, 2016, 06:42:15 AM
I don't have a hot clue about britpop but it's safe to say I hate it

I think they typo'd it - missing an additional "o"
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 18, 2016, 07:16:36 AM
Everytime I heard something that was labeled britpop I wish I hadn't heard it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 18, 2016, 08:39:52 AM
I don't have a hot clue about britpop but it's safe to say I hate it

I think they typo'd it - missing an additional "o"

 :rollin
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 18, 2016, 02:29:14 PM
That does not float my boat at all. Sterile, boring, bollocks. And I'm in a good mood :biggrin:

pretty much your average Sunstorm track.  JLT said this was going to be "melodic metal" ,so hopefully that's not entirely representative.  On a related note (and even though he's a bit of a tool) I saw some recent live footage and he's sounding pretty damn good for his age.  Maybe the fact that his hair is a lot younger than he is helps things.

I was referring to the Vega.
Haven't played the Sunstorm yet but JLTs voice always appeals to me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 18, 2016, 05:26:48 PM
The Sunstorm is good, looking forward to that one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 22, 2016, 05:34:15 PM
Another one from Treat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnIlzxcb5zo

On one hand "that's more like it" but again..........like the Circus Maximus maybe .......it sounds like they're trying too hard for a commercial "anthem".  The chorus got me thinking of Farnham's  "You're The Voice"
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 22, 2016, 06:02:39 PM
Another one from Treat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnIlzxcb5zo

On one hand "that's more like it" but again..........like the Circus Maximus maybe .......it sounds like they're trying too hard for a commercial "anthem".  The chorus got me thinking of Farnham's  "You're The Voice"

It's alright, nothing special though.  I can hear the You're the Voice part too.  The little 'woah oh' is pretty similar.  Obviously not intentional though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 22, 2016, 11:28:51 PM
I didn't get up to the chorus when I listened yesterday, but I hear the similarity. There are worse songs to rip off I guess. :lol
I agree with wolfy on this one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2016, 05:46:04 AM
I didn't get up to the chorus when I listened yesterday, but I hear the similarity. There are worse songs to rip off I guess. :lol
I agree with wolfy on this one.

What the fuck is going on, bizarro world?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 23, 2016, 05:47:09 AM
Seems you guys have been pretty together on most things lately.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 23, 2016, 05:49:41 AM
Seems you guys have been pretty together on most things lately.

Blob and I are like when you first meet your long term partner and you really can't stand each other, but after time, you grow on each other then eventually fall in love and fuck each others brains out.  Blob and I aren't quite at the latter stage yet, but you never know.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 23, 2016, 06:17:37 AM
:lol

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 23, 2016, 06:24:31 AM
Seems you guys have been pretty together on most things lately.

Blob and I are like when you first meet your long term partner and you really can't stand each other, but after time, you grow on each other then eventually fall in love and fuck each others brains out.  Blob and I aren't quite at the latter stage yet, but you never know.

By the time you guys decide on what music to fuck to, the feeling will probably be um..lost.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 23, 2016, 07:04:23 AM
Seems you guys have been pretty together on most things lately.

Blob and I are like when you first meet your long term partner and you really can't stand each other, but after time, you grow on each other then eventually fall in love and fuck each others brains out.  Blob and I aren't quite at the latter stage yet, but you never know.

By the time you guys decide on what music to fuck to, the feeling will probably be um..lost.

Steel Panther.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 23, 2016, 07:08:45 AM
I can see Wolfking coming home from work. Blob has the gentle sounds of Winger emanating from the bedroom...

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f6/91/26/f69126093ca94360b38a59ff8211ac8b.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 23, 2016, 07:25:20 AM
Midnight Driver of a Love Machine. :zydar:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 23, 2016, 12:32:10 PM
Another one from Treat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnIlzxcb5zo

On one hand "that's more like it" but again..........like the Circus Maximus maybe .......it sounds like they're trying too hard for a commercial "anthem".  The chorus got me thinking of Farnham's  "You're The Voice"

It's alright, nothing special though.  I can hear the You're the Voice part too.  The little 'woah oh' is pretty similar.  Obviously not intentional though.

You're not wrong about that chorus. Would have got away with it without holding the notes at the of the lines.
Better, certainly, but I can't unhear the YtV now.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2016, 05:30:10 AM
And don't forget about 'that' Kip picture that would be above the bed too Tim.   :hat
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 24, 2016, 05:36:34 AM
If that doesn't make you rock hard, just go home.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2016, 05:39:06 AM
 :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on March 24, 2016, 06:13:41 AM
 :lol

You guys are sick.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on March 24, 2016, 07:38:20 PM
:lol

You guys are sick.

You say that but you keep coming back here.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 04, 2016, 06:28:51 AM
Only just saw this. Not sure if I'm interested or not. I don't mind Augeri era Journey (don't know what he sounds like now), and it's very local. Tickets are $46 though, which is expected here for some mid range names, but still a bit of money for what it really is.

https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/tour-news/2016/02/22/steve-augeri-robby-steinhardt-tour-australia-legendary-voices-rock

Another tour that will struggle I would imagine.  Only diehards in Australia would know who the hell they are.

AAaaaaaaaaaaaaaand cancelled  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 04, 2016, 07:13:40 AM
For reals? Damn, that's rough. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2016, 03:06:31 PM
It's really no surprise though is it?  I didn't even raise an eyebrow.  Couldn't see bugger all people going let alone knowing who they both were.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 04, 2016, 08:55:49 PM
It's not a shock at all, but I figured they were aiming so low here that they might just manage it. Oh well.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2016, 08:56:24 PM
Would have been interesting to know exactly how many tickets were sold.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 04, 2016, 09:01:34 PM
I'm also interested to know how much money the artists would have made from something like this at best.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 04, 2016, 09:02:24 PM
I'm also interested to know how much money the artists would have made from something like this at best.

an all expenses paid holiday would be about it I would reckon
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2016, 09:03:31 PM
 :lol

Probably lucky if that included a meal thrown in at the venue too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 04, 2016, 09:04:57 PM
I'm also interested to know how much money the artists would have made from something like this at best.

an all expenses paid holiday would be about it I would reckon

Plus whatever you can make hocking whatever merch you could fit in your carry-on luggage at the show.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2016, 09:21:41 PM
So sad but would be so true.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 05, 2016, 09:14:59 AM
Ted Poley song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6-2WHMB0Us

The vocals have no balls, and it's the usual cookie cutter songwriting, but I like the bassy production and the song isn't too bad for that kind of thing. If the whole album sounds like this, it might make some pleasant enough background music.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 02:17:22 PM
Meh, I didn't really dig it, it's alright though I guess.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 05, 2016, 03:19:32 PM
This genre is dying on its arse.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2016, 04:15:35 PM
This genre is dying on its arse.

Yeah, it kinda is.  I'm hopeful for this new Sunstorm though.  The Defiants should be good too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 06, 2016, 02:11:10 AM
I turned that Ted Poley song off one minute in
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 06, 2016, 02:17:42 AM
This genre is dying on its arse.

Yeah, it kinda is.  I'm hopeful for this new Sunstorm though.  The Defiants should be good too.

I dig the Sunstorm song and I'm looking forward to that album, but the Defiants ones to me sounded even weaker than the Ted Poley one (not by a whole lot). The Ted Poley song has grown on me. It's very standard stuff of course, but I had the chorus stuck in my head last night, and I think I'll enjoy the album, as long as they don't have too many ballads. It's always the damn ballads that ruin them. :lol

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2016, 05:16:17 AM
It's like it's a mandatory thing in the contract to have 2 or 3 really sappy ballads.  They are still decent half the time, but pussy as hell.

I'll check the Ted Poley, but not expecting anything at all really.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 06:38:42 AM
2 or 3 ballads has been par for the course with melodic rock/hair metal since forever - I'm fine with it as long as they're not dialled in.  Anyway , The Astonishing has more ballads on it than the entire Frontiers catalogue :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 06, 2016, 06:47:44 AM
I'm a sucker for good ballads, even if they are cheesy as fuck. Problem is that nowadays most of the ballads are only cheesy and not good.

And yeah, the rocker/ballads ratio is important too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 06, 2016, 06:50:58 AM
I figured this is the best place to ask this question. Anything new from Tony Harnell or Hugo lately?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 06:55:04 AM
Hugo has been MIA for ages afaik aside from some cover band stuff.........will see if I can find anything else out.

Harnell spent recent times touring with Skid Row , before being given the ass just recently.  There is a new Starbreaker on the way though  :metal   He also does plenty of acoustic gigs and has been producing/promoting a chick called Rachel Lorin.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 06, 2016, 07:04:14 AM
Huge has been MIA for ages afaik aside from some cover band stuff.........will see if I can find anything else out.

Harnell spent recent times touring with Skid Row , before being given the ass just recently.  There is a new Starbreaker on the way though  :metal   He also does plenty of acoustic gigs and has been producing/promoting a chick called Rachel Lorin.

Skid Row? Really? I had no idea. How was it? Did you hear any of live material? Starbreaker was a great listen, so I'd love to hear more of that. I still listen to the Morning Wood album all of the time. At one point I had everything he ever did on CD, but lost track after that Morning Wood CD came out.

I couldn't find much on Hugo. I still crank that Valentine CD. There's something about those songs that make them forever embedded in my mind. After that, it was Open Skyz and then his two solo albums. I lost track of him after that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on April 06, 2016, 07:08:52 AM
2 or 3 ballads has been par for the course with melodic rock/hair metal since forever - I'm fine with it as long as they're not dialled in.  Anyway , The Astonishing has more ballads on it than the entire Frontiers catalogue :neverusethis:

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Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 07:10:03 AM
There's live footage all over Blabbermouth/Youtube if you search for it - he got canned pretty hard by the fans though.  I think he may have done okay on new material but he didn't really fit the Bach material.   Was it you I got the Morning Wood for John?  - I remember sending it along to someone on DTF.

Hugo hasn't done much outside what you listed.  There are a few releases you may want to track down though:

1) there was a 3rd Hugo solo release
2) there was a Valentine reunion album in 2008 (Soul Salvation)
3) There was a Hugo/Ramos album (Ramos being the guitarist from The Storm) which wasn't too bad
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 07:10:57 AM
2 or 3 ballads has been par for the course with melodic rock/hair metal since forever - I'm fine with it as long as they're not dialled in.  Anyway , The Astonishing has more ballads on it than the entire Frontiers catalogue :neverusethis:

(https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/2/26/Stop_image.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/300?cb=20121225195012)

Haha

(https://commonmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/071210.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 06, 2016, 07:18:34 AM
There's live footage all over Blabbermouth/Youtube if you search for it - he got canned pretty hard by the fans though.  I think he may have done okay on new material but he didn't really fit the Bach material.   Was it you I got the Morning Wood for John?  - I remember sending it along to someone on DTF.

Hugo hasn't done much outside what you listed.  There are a few releases you may want to track down though:

1) there was a 3rd Hugo solo release
2) there was a Valentine reunion album in 2008 (Soul Salvation)
3) There was a Hugo/Ramos album (Ramos being the guitarist from The Storm) which wasn't too bad

Yes, that was you who sent me the Morning Wood. That doesn't sound good, but it'll get a good laugh.

I remember hearing about Soul Salvation. Now that you mentioned the name, it rings a bell. I'm not sure if I checked it out though. I'll look for it. Thanks for the other Hugo heads ups though. I'll look for those, too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 07:20:46 AM
Yes it is hard to talk about Morning Wood without getting yourself into trouble  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 06, 2016, 07:23:43 AM
Yes it is hard to talk about Morning Wood without getting yourself into trouble  :lol

That's nothing. Try discussing the band Big Cock. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 07:24:35 AM
I was just listening to Fucked Up by Big Cock the other day  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 06, 2016, 07:26:44 AM
:lol Motherload was the main album I listened to. I actually heard Bump and Grind on a TV show. Never thought I'd see the day!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 07:28:24 AM
And the guy fronting Big Cock was within a bee's cock of being in Dream Theater  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 06, 2016, 07:32:15 AM
Really? I'd Google it myself, but they did not name their band to be search-safe. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 07:33:27 AM
Serious.

Google Robert Mason and DT  -  if memory serves their manager wanted Mason before they went for JLB (or something like that)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 06, 2016, 07:39:39 AM
Well ain't that something! Dream Theater almost ended up with some Big Cock in them.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 07:43:03 AM
There would probably be less complaints about DT's singer not having any balls anyway  :lol

Seriously though - Mason has always been a fave of mine and hasn't lost much over the years.  It's a shame he has such a tiny dis-cock-graphy  :neverusethis:.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 06, 2016, 07:44:46 AM
I think I've only heard Big Cock. Anything else I should check out?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 06, 2016, 07:45:47 AM
Have you heard the second (s/t) Lynch Mob album?   That'd be the obvious one to go for.


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/LynchMobST.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 06, 2016, 09:52:02 AM
Have you heard the second (s/t) Lynch Mob album?   That'd be the obvious one to go for.

Nope, haven't heard it, but checking it out on Youtube, right up my alley. :metal Thanks.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 06, 2016, 12:34:51 PM
Is it a coincidence that someone was talking about a big cock and someone posted a picture of George Lynch?

And for what it's worth, I preferred the first Lynch Mob album. That's a classic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 06, 2016, 12:38:55 PM
Robert Mason is the lead singer of Warrant now. Great voice!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 06, 2016, 01:21:42 PM
Is it a coincidence that someone was talking about a big cock and someone posted a picture of George Lynch?

And for what it's worth, I preferred the first Lynch Mob album. That's a classic.

I loved half of the first one but love more of the second. Maybe not quite the highs of the first but more consistent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 06, 2016, 01:33:59 PM
Is it a coincidence that someone was talking about a big cock and someone posted a picture of George Lynch?

And for what it's worth, I preferred the first Lynch Mob album. That's a classic.

I loved half of the first one but love more of the second. Maybe not quite the highs of the first but more consistent.

That's the perfect way to describe it. The first three tracks on the debut are gold. I liked Mason's vocals more though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Zydar on April 11, 2016, 03:48:09 AM
I don't know where else to post this but, here I go again on my oooown.

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/whitesnake_frontman_david_coverdale_announces_retirement.html
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 11, 2016, 04:09:58 AM
It's a good time to end it. I feel the Purple Album was unnecessary, but Forevermore was a great final album of original songs, and I don't want them to continue now that Aldrich is gone.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 11, 2016, 04:14:04 AM
It's a good time to end it. I feel the Purple Album was unnecessary, but Forevermore was a great final album of original songs, and I don't want them to continue now that Aldrich is gone.

sorry to disappoint you Blob but his intention is to make a last Whitesnake studio album with the current band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 11, 2016, 04:34:01 AM
It's a good time to end it. I feel the Purple Album was unnecessary, but Forevermore was a great final album of original songs, and I don't want them to continue now that Aldrich is gone.

sorry to disappoint you Blob but his intention is to make a last Whitesnake studio album with the current band.

Aw man! As much of a big part Coverdale is in the songwriting, I don't have very high hopes without Aldrich, and with Coverdale's decline over the last couple of years. I didn't care for how the Purple Album sounded at all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on April 11, 2016, 04:36:16 AM
I still haven't even bothered listening to that Purple Album yet.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 11, 2016, 04:45:47 AM
I listened to the singles, but had no interest in hearing the album. I still listen to the recent studio albums regularly though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 11, 2016, 05:47:08 AM
I have listened to the Purple Album maybe twice, didn't find it as bad as I feared but it didn't leave me wanting more.

But with all these retirement announcements, I'm thinking why they make it final? I mean when you've done music for your whole life what are you going to do now when you're retired? Never ever touch an instrument, never ever sing a note again in public or on record? I don't believe it! So just say that you take it slow and when you do something you do it and when not then not. That way you don't have to postpone or come out of the retirement for the next several years.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2016, 05:56:53 AM
It's a good time to end it. I feel the Purple Album was unnecessary, but Forevermore was a great final album of original songs, and I don't want them to continue now that Aldrich is gone.

sorry to disappoint you Blob but his intention is to make a last Whitesnake studio album with the current band.

Fuck that, I'm with Blob. 

If that were the case, I'd just rather Reb as the sole guitarist, or you know, Doug might come back just for a last studio album.

I still haven't even bothered listening to that Purple Album yet.

Same, and probably won't bother either.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2016, 05:33:53 AM
Jorn sure does love his covers;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHK2JXL4HqU

They all sound pretty fucking decent though to be honest.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 12, 2016, 05:40:36 AM
You beat me to it by a couple of minutes. I posted it in the other thread. :lol
I like the sound of it overall, especially on the songs that were less heavy to begin with. I'm more interested in Jorn's covers than his original material.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 12, 2016, 09:11:23 AM
Ok, how about the Sunstorm music video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn6gDAlXhqA

Solid stuff. Some chunky riffing, good vocals, nice melodic rock chorus. Looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Stadler on April 12, 2016, 09:38:04 AM
I have listened to the Purple Album maybe twice, didn't find it as bad as I feared but it didn't leave me wanting more.

But with all these retirement announcements, I'm thinking why they make it final? I mean when you've done music for your whole life what are you going to do now when you're retired? Never ever touch an instrument, never ever sing a note again in public or on record? I don't believe it! So just say that you take it slow and when you do something you do it and when not then not. That way you don't have to postpone or come out of the retirement for the next several years.

I think this sort of makes me weird, but I love Coverdale in Purple, I love the early Whitesnake (though some of it is a shade bland) and I love the "hair metal" Whitesnake (though some if it is a shade clichd).   I know David probably sees a lot more continuity than we do, but for me, the Purple album was a sort of curio; great songs, and some translated, but I don't know that it was meant to be intertwined like that. 

I thought Forevermore was UNBELIEVABLE.   Coverdale's voice is liquid gold on the title track (and the acoustic version is even better).  I played it for my 15-year-old and she was like "wow, that guy's voice is like silk." 

I'd be up for one more, but whether I like it or not will depend on what aspect of Whitesnake they choose to emphasize. 

I too don't quite get the need for the "proclamation of finality" that some of these guys do.  I get it with a band like REM that put a nail in and say "we're done".   No farewell tour, no "one more album", just a press release.  But I don't get the need to forecast the future so firmly.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2016, 02:39:10 PM
Ok, how about the Sunstorm music video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn6gDAlXhqA

Solid stuff. Some chunky riffing, good vocals, nice melodic rock chorus. Looking forward to this one.

Fuckin' nice.  Amazing guitar work too.  Looking forward to this big time.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 12, 2016, 02:46:28 PM
It's a good time to end it. I feel the Purple Album was unnecessary, but Forevermore was a great final album of original songs, and I don't want them to continue now that Aldrich is gone.

The Hoekstra album was pretty good. I'd be more concerned at the vocals than the songwriting.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 12, 2016, 11:27:29 PM
It's a good time to end it. I feel the Purple Album was unnecessary, but Forevermore was a great final album of original songs, and I don't want them to continue now that Aldrich is gone.

The Hoekstra album was pretty good. I'd be more concerned at the vocals than the songwriting.

I didn't really like the guitar work on the Purple Album, but I'm more concerned about the songwriting, which that doesn't show for obvious reason. Aldrich/Coverdale was a great writing team, but they still took time to find their sound together. I'm not convinced Hoekstra is a good fit for Whitesnake.
Coverdale's vocals on the Purple Album were also a concern. He was still sounding great on Forevermore, but on the live albums since, and the Purple Album, he's sounding shot now. Rock vocalists seem to decline rapidly once they hit the big 60.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 13, 2016, 01:18:15 AM
Maybe he should write/sing songs on the next record that more suit his current state of his voice. He can't go screaming and reaching for the high notes anymore, but in the middle and lower range he's still got a good and warm voice from what I've heard. So maybe a record a little more bluesy or laid back?

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2016, 01:19:24 AM
Maybe he should write/sing songs on the next record that more suit his current state of his voice. He can't go screaming and reaching for the high notes anymore, but in the middle and lower range he's still got a good and warm voice from what I've heard. So maybe a record a little more bluesy or laid back?

I think that's the way he will go if he does some solo stuff - along the lines of Restless Heart /Into The Light.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2016, 01:26:50 AM
Maybe he should write/sing songs on the next record that more suit his current state of his voice. He can't go screaming and reaching for the high notes anymore, but in the middle and lower range he's still got a good and warm voice from what I've heard. So maybe a record a little more bluesy or laid back?

I think that's the way he will go if he does some solo stuff - along the lines of Restless Heart /Into The Light.

I still listen to Restless Heart very regularly, so I'd be down for that (Into The Light sucked though). He could still do the rockier stuff too, he just doesn't need to go for the really high notes. It's more obvious with the live/cover stuff he's recorded in the last 5 years since Forevermore, because he's still pushing to sing difficult melodies that he sang 25+ years ago. That's not as much of an issue when you're writing new material to suit your voice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2016, 01:32:48 AM
I probably should dig out Restless Heart.  It's one of those albums I was fired up for and bought on release (in the hair metal frame of mind , esp with that awesome cover) and then pressed Play and thought WTF is this wimpy bluesy rock!!   Haven't gone back very often , possibly due to that initial flat feeling.  If I listen to it with a more open mind than I had at the time I will probably like it more.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2016, 01:38:30 AM
If you can appreciate it for what it is and not compare it to Whitesnake (since it's not), it's an excellent album from start to finish, without any skip tracks imo. But coming off albums like 1987 and Slip of the Tongue, it's such a different style, so I can see how it would disappoint a lot of fans.
Gonna listen to it right now. It's my go to album when I want something mellow.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 13, 2016, 01:49:41 AM
I probably should dig out Restless Heart.  It's one of those albums I was fired up for and bought on release (in the hair metal frame of mind , esp with that awesome cover) and then pressed Play and thought WTF is this wimpy bluesy rock!!   Haven't gone back very often , possibly due to that initial flat feeling.  If I listen to it with a more open mind than I had at the time I will probably like it more.

My thoughts exactly.
But I don't agree with Blob about his voice being great on Forevermore. He struggles on lots of songs, particularly the ballad. Voice was grating. He got by because it's the studio. Not listened in ages so not sure of song titles.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 13, 2016, 02:50:52 AM
I quite like Restless Heart. If you expected a continuation of the 1987/Slip Of The Tongue style, you were in for a surprise. But considering that the early Whitesnake was more blues-rock than metal it wasn't that of a left turn.

But even on that record there are one or two tunes where his voice sounds incredibly strained. Back then he did it maybe on purpose?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2016, 05:12:31 AM
I don't think I've ever heard Restless Heart.  Pretty sure I don't own it.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2016, 05:25:05 AM
You wouldn't like it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2016, 05:31:26 AM
You wouldn't like it.

Good enough for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 13, 2016, 05:37:04 AM
I tried to find Restless Heart on Spotify but it isn't available there as of yet, so I'm listening to Slip of the Tongue instead.  :lol  This brings back so many memories of high school.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Stadler on April 13, 2016, 08:36:01 AM
You wouldn't like it.

Good enough for me.

Well, I don't know if that is one close friend who knows what another would like or if that is just someone saying to a stranger "it sucks", but I LOVE Restless Heart.   "Don't Fade Away" is a top five Whitesnake song for me (though the Starkers In Tokyo version is better).  It's NOT the Vai/Vandenberg hair metal extravaganza, but it's very good.

I also disagree with the voice questions on Forevermore.  I thought he strained a tad on the rockers, but the acoustic Forevermore is just sublime to me because of the warmth and depth of his voice.   

I do agree though that his voice didn't carry the day on the Purple record.  It seemed too "studio" and was missing some of the depth and warmth that I mentioned above. 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2016, 08:43:06 AM
You wouldn't like it.

Good enough for me.

Well, I don't know if that is one close friend who knows what another would like or if that is just someone saying to a stranger "it sucks", but I LOVE Restless Heart.   "Don't Fade Away" is a top five Whitesnake song for me (though the Starkers In Tokyo version is better).  It's NOT the Vai/Vandenberg hair metal extravaganza, but it's very good.


I adore Restless Heart, but I know that it's not wolfy's kind of album. :lol I'm glad to see another fan of it. :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2016, 05:27:54 AM
Another Vega song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1rPokkD4uM


New First Signal;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poMMM0_FP2U

Standard Frontiers fare here, but Harry sounds great.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 17, 2016, 05:31:32 AM
Heard them both the other day. I only remember from the video, certainly not from the music. :lol

Nothing wrong with them, but as you said, standard Frontiers fare.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2016, 05:36:36 AM
Cool... didn't know First Signal had a release coming.  Will likely pick this up - got a soft spot for anything Harry's on the mic for.  This is on the soft end of my spectrum, but still good stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: kirksnosehair on April 17, 2016, 05:39:41 AM
Lately I've been buying some more AOR type music, not as much prog.  I recently discovered this band called Khymera.  Really great catchy songs.  Reminds me a bit of the band Survivor.


The album I picked up is called "The Grand Design"


Every track is a keeper.   :hat



Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on April 17, 2016, 05:44:27 AM
Don't mind the First Signal song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2016, 05:45:16 AM
Cool... didn't know First Signal had a release coming.

Really?

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45231.msg2130543#msg2130543
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2016, 05:46:54 AM
Lately I've been buying some more AOR type music, not as much prog.  I recently discovered this band called Khymera.  Really great catchy songs.  Reminds me a bit of the band Survivor.


The album I picked up is called "The Grand Design"


Every track is a keeper.   :hat

That's a great album.  Make sure you pick up the one before it called A New Promise, just as quality when it comes to AOR.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2016, 05:52:39 AM
Cool... didn't know First Signal had a release coming.

Really?

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45231.msg2130543#msg2130543

Holy lol!!!  Wtf is wrong with me?   ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2016, 05:59:22 AM
Cool... didn't know First Signal had a release coming.

Really?

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45231.msg2130543#msg2130543

Holy lol!!!  Wtf is wrong with me?   ;D

Good to get one back on somebody else.  I do this all the fucking time.  :rollin
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2016, 06:03:16 AM
Cool... didn't know First Signal had a release coming.

Really?

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45231.msg2130543#msg2130543

Holy lol!!!  Wtf is wrong with me?   ;D

Good to get one back on somebody else.  I do this all the fucking time.  :rollin

AND IT WAS ONLY 3 FUCKING WEEKS AGO!?!?!? 
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2016, 02:58:48 PM
Makes it even funnier.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 18, 2016, 09:58:09 AM
Just got through The Defiants -  decent but disappointing.  Without the edge that they get from Laine's singing (and he's not quite as powerful as usual) and Rob's guitar (in places) it would be just another AOR disc.

It starts off strong but doesn't hold it and some of the melodies and lyrics in the back 2/3rds get cringeworthy at times.  Lil' Miss Rock'n'Roll is awful.

79% and I would need to be in the mood.    The first two or three tracks would be enough for me actually - best songs and best playing.   If I want a whole album of this stuff then Revolve and Marcello/Vestry are both clearly better.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 18, 2016, 12:54:17 PM
New Treat..........review in brief.

Coup De Grace after castration

79%

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 18, 2016, 02:50:31 PM
Fuck, on both counts.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 18, 2016, 02:59:47 PM
Fuck, on both counts.

I agree. I didn't go in with a negative bias (quite the opposite) but The Defiants in particular was painfully sappy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 18, 2016, 03:08:44 PM
Fuck, on both counts.

I agree. I didn't go in with a negative bias (quite the opposite) but The Defiants in particular was painfully sappy.

Uuggghh!  And I thought that it sounded promising.

Hopefully the new Sunstorm in May has a bit more balls.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 18, 2016, 03:34:32 PM
Fuck, on both counts.

I agree. I didn't go in with a negative bias (quite the opposite) but The Defiants in particular was painfully sappy.

Not played it yet. Wasn't too impressed with the tracks that were released. AOR by numbers.
The Treat is as you described it. Maybe should have called it a day after all.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 18, 2016, 04:23:08 PM
98% for Defiants and 99% for Treat on mr.com  ;D   
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 18, 2016, 04:41:24 PM
98% for Defiants and 99% for Treat on mr.com  ;D

There's a surprise. Bet he still eats cornflakes for breakfast
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2016, 05:25:39 AM
mr.com use to be such a reliable classy little website.  It's now to me become a parody of itself.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 19, 2016, 05:35:18 AM
mr.com use to be such a reliable classy little website.  It's now to me become a parody of itself.

I agree.  I have known Andrew since the mid 90's - I used to buy CDs from him years before the website existed (he got me into Ten, Harem Scarem etc....back then) . But yeah............I think the him and most of the guys on that site have lost perspective on what is good and what is cookie cutter crap.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 19, 2016, 05:46:03 AM
I remember a friend of mine told me about that site and I thought it was a really well put together site at one point. I haven't checked it out much recently, though. I generally get my CDs from Amazon or sometimes Laser's Edge.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2016, 06:07:39 AM
mr.com use to be such a reliable classy little website.  It's now to me become a parody of itself.

I agree.  I have known Andrew since the mid 90's - I used to buy CDs from him years before the website existed (he got me into Ten, Harem Scarem etc....back then) . But yeah............I think the him and most of the guys on that site have lost perspective on what is good and what is cookie cutter crap.

It's just a damn shame.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 19, 2016, 06:33:32 AM
I used to hang out there all the time and made some good friends but in the last few years I've hardly bothered. You know which bands will score huge no matter what crap they put out and some of the old regulars, whilst being an acquired taste, made for some good heated discussions. Then a bunch of people who got offended very easily moved in and no different opinion or criticism was allowed.
It became not fun.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 20, 2016, 04:38:39 PM
According to Alessandro del Vecchio, a new Hardline album is being recorded.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on April 20, 2016, 05:43:46 PM
According to Alessandro del Vecchio, a new Hardline album is being recorded.

Besides the birth of his children, this will be the greatest day ever for Chad
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 20, 2016, 06:19:20 PM
According to Alessandro del Vecchio, a new Hardline album is being recorded.

Besides the birth of his children, this will be the greatest day ever for Chad

 :rollin


I'm pretty pumped for it too, hopefully.  Danger Zone was actually really solid.  With Johnny and hopefully Thorsten again, should be good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 20, 2016, 11:03:17 PM
I need to get a proper copy of the Hardline albums. I gave them a listen on Spotify and liked them, but I always forget about albums unless I have my own copy.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2016, 12:22:12 AM
The only one I don't own is II, and actually I still haven't heard it.  From what the fellas on here say though is that I'm not missing much.  The debut is great, and the last two were very good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 21, 2016, 12:47:53 AM
The only one I don't own is II, and actually I still haven't heard it.  From what the fellas on here say though is that I'm not missing much.  The debut is great, and the last two were very good.

I just pretend II doesn't exist.  It's awful.  Don't listen to it.

Hardline > Leaving the End Open > Danger Zone.

Their s/t is a Top 10 album of all time for me, personally.

According to Alessandro del Vecchio, a new Hardline album is being recorded.

Besides the birth of his children, this will be the greatest day ever for Chad

Not too far from the truth - so long as Gioelli is still on the mic.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 21, 2016, 01:39:53 AM
The only one I don't own is II, and actually I still haven't heard it.  From what the fellas on here say though is that I'm not missing much.  The debut is great, and the last two were very good.

I just pretend II doesn't exist.  It's awful.  Don't listen to it.

Hardline > Leaving the End Open > Danger Zone.

Their s/t is a Top 10 album of all time for me, personally.

According to Alessandro del Vecchio, a new Hardline album is being recorded.

Besides the birth of his children, this will be the greatest day ever for Chad

Not too far from the truth - so long as Gioelli is still on the mic.

Great vocalist. II was just Rubbish. LTEO was good and a bit progressive. dZ I haven't played much but I seem to remember it was cookie cutter frontiers stuff
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2016, 05:16:42 AM
The dislike for II makes me want to listen to it, just out of curiosity.

LTEO is my fav, great melodic rock album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 21, 2016, 06:06:12 AM
If DTF dislikes it, I have a feeling it's going to be the best one. :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on April 21, 2016, 06:26:54 AM
Their s/t is a Top 10 album of all time for me, personally.
I was going to listen to the self-titled Hardline album but I found no evidence of its existence. :huh: So I listened to Leaving The End Open instead. Not bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 21, 2016, 06:36:23 AM
Their s/t is a Top 10 album of all time for me, personally.
I was going to listen to the self-titled Hardline album but I found no evidence of its existence. :huh: So I listened to Leaving The End Open instead. Not bad.

Interesting that an album can make Chad's top ten and he is unaware of its name  :lol    It's called "Double Eclipse",  David  :)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: FreezingPoint on April 21, 2016, 07:09:55 AM
The dislike for II makes me want to listen to it, just out of curiosity.

Me too, I've heard the rest, but the general dislike for II has kept me away.

Danger Zone was okay. Some good tracks, a bunch of filler. Yes, some Frontiers cookie cutter too. But the thing that kinda kills it for me is that it has one of my least favorite guitar sounds ever recorded. So bad IMO. Maybe they were trying to go for that sound that was on Double Eclipse, but fell way flat.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on April 21, 2016, 07:11:16 AM
Interesting that an album can make Chad's top ten and he is unaware of its name  :lol    It's called "Double Eclipse",  David  :)
Well I thought that might have been that one since he didn't mention it, but it very clearly has a name. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 21, 2016, 09:21:26 AM
The dislike for II makes me want to listen to it, just out of curiosity.

LTEO is my fav, great melodic rock album.

Do it and report back. Havent tried it in years (sinceit came out probably) and maybe I was expecting too much when it came out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2016, 02:32:00 PM
I'll take note and listen to it after the roulette probably.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 22, 2016, 06:16:37 AM
Their s/t is a Top 10 album of all time for me, personally.
I was going to listen to the self-titled Hardline album but I found no evidence of its existence. :huh: So I listened to Leaving The End Open instead. Not bad.

Interesting that an album can make Chad's top ten and he is unaware of its name  :lol    It's called "Double Eclipse",  David  :)

:lolpalm:

If you'll note the time of that post, it was almost midnight in the timezone I was in at the time, and I was six sheets into the wind.  I barely even recall making that post.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2016, 06:28:55 AM
Chad, I actually think you meant to say 'debut.'  I can see how that would happen to be honest.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 22, 2016, 07:35:21 AM
Chad, I actually think you meant to say 'debut.'  I can see how that would happen to be honest.

Surely that's what I was thinkin.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on April 22, 2016, 01:55:46 PM
I have known Mr Big for along time but never really listened to them other than their hits. Yesterday I watched their Back To Budokan DVD and of course i've always known that Paul and Billys were masters at their instruments but never really seen them in Mr Big and all I can say is, probably one of the best sounding rock bands i've heard. Everything sounded so amazing, tight and well rehearsed from the background singing (It's For You!!) to solos and everything. Pat is such a musical and groovy drummer which I haven't really noticed before, love the sing part of his drum solo such a simple yet interesting idea. Not to forget Eric who sings his heart out all through the concert. The whole concert was a really nice surprise!  :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 22, 2016, 02:02:42 PM
I loved Mr. Big up to their split, even the two Kotzen records weren't bad and I've seen them live three times in the 90s and they were killer. Groovy, heavy, tight, funny, you name it.

The two reunion discs are sadly not even close to their earlier records.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on April 22, 2016, 02:09:47 PM
Do you have any recommendations for their older live dvds because I would love to hear more.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 22, 2016, 02:21:45 PM
I only know Mr. Big Live from 1992 and Raw Like Sushi II, those are good enough live cds but the setlist isn't that much different. Don't know any dvds, so can't comment on that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 22, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2xc345erF1k

Had this on vhs back in the day. Not sure if it's on DVDs. Should be.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2016, 04:34:52 PM
Never got big into them, especially their older stuff.  The last album sounded shit but the one before it was a fantastic album.  What If, I think it's called.  I have the Budokan DVD though and it is enjoyable.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 26, 2016, 06:29:57 AM
New Sunstorm song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnHgbyNnjes

Another solid one, a good rocker. Looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2016, 06:12:06 AM
Beat me to it Blob.  A bit more by the numbers, but I think will sit nicely in the album.  At least it's got some balls and energy which the genre has been lacking.  The guitar work here again is amazing.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 27, 2016, 06:15:12 AM
I'm ok with the by the numbers stuff, as long as it's well written and has some balls to it. This fits the bill for me nicely. If this is indicative of the quality of the average album track, I expect it to be a solid listen.

And please not too many ballads. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2016, 06:17:02 AM
I'm ok with the by the numbers stuff, as long as it's well written and has some balls to it. This fits the bill for me nicely. If this is indicative of the quality of the average album track, I expect it to be a solid listen.

And please not too many ballads. :biggrin:

I would agree.  One solid ballad per album is enough, maybe two by a stretch.  Frontiers have just been too ballad happy lately with what seems every second track is a ballad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 27, 2016, 06:24:33 AM
The regular album tracks are usually so wimpy that I consider ballads redundant. :lol And they're rarely any good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2016, 02:51:54 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 29, 2016, 10:16:32 AM
JAP version of the Sunstorm on deck for the weekend - regular release still a couple of weeks away
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 29, 2016, 10:40:55 AM
JAP version of the Sunstorm on deck for the weekend - regular release still a couple of weeks away

11 points from Jay.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2016, 05:58:33 AM
A new Vega song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqynFzYUKLk

This one is really fucking good.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 01, 2016, 06:14:19 AM
Saw it a couple of days ago. Sounds bland and tame and overprocessed. Not interested in the album.

I'm trying to think what ones I'm looking forward to right now. Sunstorm definitely tops my list at the moment.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2016, 06:18:36 AM
Saw it a couple of days ago. Sounds bland and tame and overprocessed. Not interested in the album.

I'm trying to think what ones I'm looking forward to right now. Sunstorm definitely tops my list at the moment.

I remember you commented that you liked the first song released from it though.

The Sunstorm is shaping up really good indeed.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 01, 2016, 06:24:09 AM
Did I like the first one? I'm glad someone's keeping track. :lol In that case, if they release another song, that can be the tie breaker.

The Sunstorm one so far is right in the pocket of what I like. Nothing new of course, but just done well with the right amount of heaviness.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 01, 2016, 08:20:41 PM
I'd rate the Sunstorm low 80's - it probably does have a little more edge than earlier albums but JLT calling it "melodic metal" is a bit much  :lol     Like most of these projects the songwriting is very formula driven and so it's hard to rate it much higher.  A pleasant listen but I had no real desire to repeat............heard it all a million times before.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 02, 2016, 01:53:27 AM
Just finished my first quick listen. Track 4 was what I'd call metal, and it's a bit heavier overall than I expected, but aside from that it's straight up melodic rock, not metal. Sorry, JLT! That's how I generally prefer it anyway. Doesn't seem too ballady, so that's something.
It's had a few minor curveballs (relatively speaking) that to me set it apart slightly from the average cookie cutter stuff, but overall still within that general formula I expect from Frontiers. I didn't expect otherwise.

I don't know how I'd rate it yet. As you said, it's a pleasant listen, not sure how much of it has really grabbed me for another listen though. It's not typically the type of music that grows on you with repeated listens, but I'll give it a few more spins anyway. I've liked it all so far, but there hasn't been a song that really rocked my face off yet. I'll probably agree with your rating.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2016, 04:56:37 AM
So, I'll love it then?

I haven't even bothered to check the ones from last month yet.  (Defiants, Treat etc.)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: kirksnosehair on May 02, 2016, 08:25:07 AM
I've been on a bit of a kick with this kind of stuff lately.


Khymera is the latest one I've been digging.  I bought two of their albums and they've been on pretty heavy rotation for a few weeks now.


"The Grand Design" is their most recent.  Samples here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFubXGm99Oc)


"The Greatest Wonder" is the other one I bought - here's the title track. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emnLN5LdW3E)


The other band that's sort of in this genre that I've been getting into lately is House of Lords


I swear their vocalist is a dead ringer for Bryan Adams (who I like a lot) here's "Go To Hell" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXiUhNtQ01g) from their latest album, "Indestructible"



Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 02, 2016, 08:33:14 AM
I tried Khymera once, and was mildly underwhelmed.  HoL is great - Indestructible is a nice album, although nothing new from them.  They're very same-y... which isn't a bad thing when the 'same' is really good music.  I find some of their early albums to have a bit of filler however.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: kirksnosehair on May 02, 2016, 08:48:56 AM
Generally speaking, if I buy an album in this genre, I only expect to really like about 75% of the album.  They can't all be masterpieces, but sometimes there are some real gems among that 75%
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 02, 2016, 08:49:33 AM
HoL had much more depth/variety to their songwriting when Giuffria/Wright were involved - the current lineup is consistently strong , if a bit one dimensional.  Demon's Down is widely considered their best.  I go way back with them and was following before the debut due to the tie up with other bands like Eyes.............and of course Mr $immons.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 02, 2016, 11:59:15 AM
First Signal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BP5V6EyZ-8

I like this one!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 02, 2016, 01:00:32 PM
Whoa!  Awesome.  Love me my Harry.  I didn't even know a new album was coming! 






































:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 02, 2016, 01:08:02 PM
Whoa!  Awesome.  Love me my Harry.  I didn't even know a new album was coming! 






































:neverusethis:

Yeah, dementia is a terrible thing, but we have medication for it now  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 02, 2016, 01:08:50 PM
I think I'm missing the joke here. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Big Hath on May 02, 2016, 01:31:52 PM
Cool... didn't know First Signal had a release coming.

Really?

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45231.msg2130543#msg2130543


between this and the Hardline self titled debut aka Double Eclipse, I'm starting to worry about Chad
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 02, 2016, 01:38:24 PM
I think I'm missing the joke here. :lol

You were.  Last time I "didn't remember", I really didn't remember (Big Hath's post).  This time, I was poking fun at myself.

And that Double Eclipse faux pas was because I was shit-faced when I typed it.  :durnk:

Damn... that really should be an emot of some kind.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2016, 02:10:40 PM
Whoa!  Awesome.  Love me my Harry.  I didn't even know a new album was coming! 

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/bb/29/e0/bb29e0cfe9ccf519955a66a6aba6f7e3.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2016, 07:24:42 PM
That First Signal song is really solid.  Reminds me a bit of the Find Me, well done and quite fresh for the genre.  Harry sounds great as usual.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 03, 2016, 12:34:53 AM
I got a copy of the previous First Signal album based on this new song alone.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2016, 12:42:14 AM
I got a copy of the previous First Signal album based on this new song alone.

Wowers!

First one is good, a couple of filler but a lot of good melodic rock.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 03, 2016, 12:49:27 AM
That First Signal song is really solid.  Reminds me a bit of the Find Me

same producer I think - probably same studio, same instruments ........... :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 03, 2016, 05:17:27 AM
That First Signal song is really solid.  Reminds me a bit of the Find Me

same producer I think - probably same studio, same instruments ........... :lol

Same studio booking and session time?  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 05, 2016, 05:18:56 AM
New Vega clip;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofv3rTWb12s

I really fucking love this band.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 05, 2016, 05:40:05 AM
I'm surprised you're so into them considering it sounds as soft and generic as anything else Frontiers churns out. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 05, 2016, 06:52:44 PM
I'm surprised you're so into them considering it sounds as soft and generic as anything else Frontiers churns out. :biggrin:

(https://img.pandawhale.com/post-31776-Liar-Liar-laughing-gif-Jim-Car-4PHD.gif)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2016, 05:48:20 AM
mr.com gives the new Ted Poley 96% but gives the new Sunstorm 77%!?  Errrr..................
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2016, 05:52:24 AM
Another First Signal song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJNcDXj7-GU
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2016, 05:52:36 AM
I recall liking what I heard of the Ted Poley album so far, and it doesn't surprise me they rated that highly, but WTF with Sunstorm? Why would they rate it that low? That's basically 0% from that site. It's right up their alley, and it's a solid album.

I enjoyed this First Signal track, not as much as the first one though. Sounding like a solid album so far.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2016, 05:54:20 AM
Yeah I thought the same with the First Signal, not as strong as the others, but still good.

Yeah, maybe it's too heavy for Andrew or something the Sunstorm.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2016, 05:55:21 AM
Dunno. :lol Maybe JLT didn't return his phonecall or something.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on May 11, 2016, 05:59:17 AM
I figured this is the place to ask. I'm trying to think of an AOR band that I listened to years ago, though the band name escapes me. I remember very little. The word "warning" comes to mind, and that they had a number as one of their album titles. Van Halen comes to mind, too. Yes, I know. Wonderful clues.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2016, 06:01:58 AM
Fair Warning -4 ?      Also happens to be the name of a VH album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on May 11, 2016, 06:02:47 AM
Shit, that's right.  :lol  Thanks. Off to Spotify.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2016, 06:03:13 AM
Ninja'd

But come on, that was too easy. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2016, 06:06:56 AM
If you know them well Blob, you'd be one of the few around here.  I was a big fan back in the day - esp the debut.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on May 11, 2016, 06:08:31 AM
Ninja'd

But come on, that was too easy. :lol

You know, I have these moments where things I should know completely slip my mind. Once he mentioned the band, I was kind of surprised that I forgot their name.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 11, 2016, 06:09:23 AM
If you know them well Blob, you'd be one of the few around here.  I was a big fan back in the day - esp the debut.

I've never heard of them, I just meant the clues alone.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on May 11, 2016, 06:12:31 AM
They only have a couple of albums of theirs on Spotify, so I'm listening to Rainmaker which I never heard before.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2016, 06:14:12 AM
The debut is more hard rock , Rainmaker more mainstream sounding.   The songs that come to mind are Burning Heart and Childrens Eyes.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on May 11, 2016, 06:21:21 AM
I'm halfway through it. The Rain Song is beautiful. I've always been a sucker for those slow songs, power ballads, etc.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2016, 06:22:17 AM
Yeah - I remember that too.  If you like that side of their music them also check out the album Go!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on May 11, 2016, 06:26:10 AM
Yeah - I remember that too.  If you like that side of their music them also check out the album Go!

That's the one I heard first!  Thank you for reminding me about it. Go and 4 were the two albums my friend played for me that I loved. He is probably the one person I know that knows just as much about AOR as everyone here.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2016, 06:30:00 AM
Rainmaker was one of my very early CD purchases.

Their debut is a hard rock classic , so don't forget that.

I'll give you another lead to follow.   Fair Warning was formed out of the ashes of the band Zeno , which featured Zeno Roth(younger brother of Uli Jon Roth) on guitar.   The album featured Tommy Heart from FW (vox)on a few tracks and a number of the FW band members.

See if you can track down the album Zenology and see what you think.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on May 11, 2016, 06:34:29 AM
Rainmaker was one of my very early CD purchases.

Their debut is a hard rock classic , so don't forget that.

I'll give you another lead to follow.   Fair Warning was formed out of the ashes of the band Zeno , which featured Zeno Roth(younger brother of Uli Jon Roth).   The album featured Tommy Heart from FW on a few tracks and a number of the FW band members.

See if you can track down the album Zenology and see what you think.


I noticed that about a lot of AOR/melodic rock bands. There is always a member or two who were from another band or some other collaboration. Every band is linked to a handful of bands. You don't see that in any other genre except prog rock and power metal. I like it, though. It's an endless search for similar bands.

I was hoping to find Blue Tears on Spotify, but no such luck. True Romance was always on my depressing mix.  :lol 

I'm going to look for Zenology, though. If I can't find it on Spotify, I'll check YouTube. If not there, I'll search some of the sites I use on the Internet.

*in search mode*
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 11, 2016, 06:35:56 AM
if you're really stuck for something , then let me know  ;)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on May 11, 2016, 06:39:18 AM
Thank you.   :D  I found it on YouTube and listening right now. So far, so good. I also found it used on Amazon for $6, so I might wind up buying it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2016, 02:52:55 PM
I only have one of Fair Warning's later albums, and it's pretty meh.  Should check some of their older stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 11, 2016, 03:15:59 PM
I think 4 is my favourite FW album.

The 1st two Zeno albums are ok, very similar to FW really.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2016, 04:16:03 PM
I lied, I have two albums, Brother's Keeper and Sundancer.  Neither really got me going.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 12, 2016, 12:11:54 PM
I lied, I have two albums, Brother's Keeper and Sundancer.  Neither really got me going.

Those are later albums iirc. Shame theyre banned in your roulette. Was going to send Hearts On The Run. Check that one out.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2016, 02:26:09 PM
Yeah, they are later albums Paul.  Will check that one you mentioned.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 15, 2016, 08:04:41 AM
The debut Fair Warning is definitely the most rocking overall (got an HM in my Top 50 I think) , so maybe start there.

Just having a quick listen to the new Vega - like all their stuff it has some generic pop tendencies that I don't like much but I get the impression that this is a bit more my cuppa tea than their other stuff.   They remind me a lot of someone that I just cannot put my finger on too  ::) (definitely a little D2 in there but that's not it).

Anyway - I'm a bit more receptive to this one Kade  :)  probably their first 80%+ from me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 15, 2016, 11:06:20 AM
The Ted Poley is solid too - would rate it lower than the Vega (even less original) but is quality generic stuff like a lot of recent releases.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 15, 2016, 02:24:04 PM
The debut Fair Warning is definitely the most rocking overall (got an HM in my Top 50 I think) , so maybe start there.

Just having a quick listen to the new Vega - like all their stuff it has some generic pop tendencies that I don't like much but I get the impression that this is a bit more my cuppa tea than their other stuff.   They remind me a lot of someone that I just cannot put my finger on too  ::) (definitely a little D2 in there but that's not it).

Anyway - I'm a bit more receptive to this one Kade  :)  probably their first 80%+ from me.

That's nice, I'm looking forward to it mate.  Interesting thoughts with the Ted Poley too, might have to have a listen.

Will be another month, still haven't listened to the Defiants, Treat or Sunstorm.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 23, 2016, 06:06:34 AM
Another First Signal song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR5zrb6gZDk

How fucking good is this?!  :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on May 23, 2016, 07:21:03 AM
I dig it. I recall slightly preferring the first song, but I haven't heard anything bad so far.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 23, 2016, 07:22:02 AM
Yeah good song.  Quite familiar as per usual but a cut above most of the stuff about these days.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 23, 2016, 09:14:35 AM
The Ted Poley is on Spotify. I quite liked it, more so than the Desperados. As Brent said, nothing new, but decent.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 23, 2016, 03:51:27 PM
The Ted Poley is on Spotify. I quite liked it, more so than the Desperados. As Brent said, nothing new, but decent.

 :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 04:11:08 PM
Another First Signal song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR5zrb6gZDk

How fucking good is this?!  :metal

Would be better with Kiske! But wouldn't everything? ;D

It doesn't suck, but I'm just not sure what to do with it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 23, 2016, 04:14:38 PM
Another First Signal song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR5zrb6gZDk

How fucking good is this?!  :metal

Would be better with Kiske! But wouldn't everything? ;D

It doesn't suck, but I'm just not sure what to do with it.

I'm not sure what to do with this comment.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 23, 2016, 04:21:29 PM
Another First Signal song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR5zrb6gZDk

How fucking good is this?!  :metal

Would be better with Kiske! But wouldn't everything? ;D

It doesn't suck, but I'm just not sure what to do with it.

I'm not sure what to do with this comment.

I'm not sure what to do with this reply. ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 23, 2016, 05:14:02 PM
(https://new3.fjcdn.com/comments/Fair+enough+then+_c197be3d3971f211fd68b05d305bbc6b.png)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 24, 2016, 10:47:54 AM
The Ted Poley is on Spotify. I quite liked it, more so than the Desperados. As Brent said, nothing new, but decent.

 :lol

Well they looked like desperados  :biggrin:  :hat like this
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 29, 2016, 10:47:58 AM
Just got the Punky Meadows album that was just released, Fallen Angel. I'm about half way through and it's pretty enjoyable. At least it has its own character.
I quite liked Angel back in the day - I think I've got all the studio albums on vinyl but not played them in an age as I don't have a deck. Have played them now and again on spotify.

I did consider sending them in Jason's roulette but never got around to it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on May 29, 2016, 10:54:46 AM
Cool. Honestly, I don't think I've ever heard an Angel song.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on May 29, 2016, 11:45:17 AM
I heard Got Love If You Want It but it didn't do much for me. I was big fan of House of Lords and Giuffria so a friend recommended Angel. They never appealed to me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 29, 2016, 03:59:20 PM
I like some of Angels material.  But for the most part, 70s glittery pop rock can be very hit or miss for me.

The Tower is a great song
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 29, 2016, 04:03:50 PM
They were very hit and miss.

Just been listening to Sinful. I don't have that one. They were never going to set the world alight but some good stuff amongst the chaff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 29, 2016, 04:30:57 PM
Like John I would've definitely checked out Angel due to the Giuffria connection but what I heard mustn't have hit the spot as I don't own any albums.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on May 29, 2016, 04:34:34 PM
Like John I would've definitely checked out Angel due to the Giuffria connection but what I heard mustn't have hit the spot as I don't own any albums.

If you were to check out an Angel album, I think the debut is considered the best.  But overall, I would say don't bother.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 29, 2016, 04:40:21 PM
A bit like KISS without any of the magic in the songwriting I guess. I wouldn't recommend them either now. Back in the day there were less bands to take my money. And I picked the albums up for next to nothing at the used stall in the market.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on May 29, 2016, 11:55:38 PM
I don't think I've ever heard an Angel song.

Same.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 30, 2016, 02:56:44 PM
The best thing about them was the reversible logo!  :lol
Still, the Punky meadows album is decent. Worth a listen if the weathers nice

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 30, 2016, 04:15:36 PM
If nothing else he has a nice tan  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 03, 2016, 09:45:20 AM
I just got the First Signal album. I haven't given it a proper listen, just a skim, but it seems like it might not have the best percentage of ballads. No other comments yet. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2016, 03:47:35 PM
Looking forward to your thoughts on it Blob.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2016, 06:59:34 PM
Just listened to the First Signal - I didn't think it was too ballady as most of the ballads are a bit ballsier than average.  I think it's a strong album within the confines of the usual lack of originality.    The only bad things that stood out were the odd drop in production quality and the occasional very low rent keyboard sound.  But on the whole it's good stuff - fairly standard Frontiers fare elevated by the mighty Mr Hess.

84% from moi.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 05, 2016, 07:10:07 PM
  I think it's a strong album within the confines of the usual lack of originality.   

What? :lol

So you're saying for something that sucks, it's not bad? :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2016, 07:13:59 PM
What I am saying (and this applies to most of the metal being released too) is that in terms of style/sound it's pretty much all been done before and it's very rare for a new release to feature melodies and song structures that I haven't heard before.   Those rare albums from recent years (for me bands like Trail of Murder and Shy,...........and the latest SX) are the very,very few to score 90%+ from me.

If a fairly stock standard but very high quality group of songs with a great vocalist gets me tapping my foot/banging my head then I am prepared to give it a good rating in the 8-8.5 area.   I sometimes think that people see 84% as much higher than an 8.4/10 for some reason :lol   The same sort of sentiment applies to bands like Accept, Primal Fear etc.........enjoyable but predictable for the most part.

What are you doing in here anyway ? :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2016, 09:55:28 PM
What are you doing in here anyway ? :lol

 :rollin
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 05, 2016, 10:47:06 PM
Just listened to the First Signal - I didn't think it was too ballady as most of the ballads are a bit ballsier than average.  I think it's a strong album within the confines of the usual lack of originality.    The only bad things that stood out were the odd drop in production quality and the occasional very low rent keyboard sound.  But on the whole it's good stuff - fairly standard Frontiers fare elevated by the mighty Mr Hess.


Yeah, you're right that they're mostly ballsier ballads, but they still lack enough edge that I need to get through any modern Frontiers music. :lol
There were a couple of great choruses on there that stood out to me,but overall I don't think I'll be listening to this one again.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on June 06, 2016, 12:09:41 AM
What are you doing in here anyway ? :lol

 :rollin

lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2016, 05:32:29 AM
Just listened to the First Signal - I didn't think it was too ballady as most of the ballads are a bit ballsier than average.  I think it's a strong album within the confines of the usual lack of originality.    The only bad things that stood out were the odd drop in production quality and the occasional very low rent keyboard sound.  But on the whole it's good stuff - fairly standard Frontiers fare elevated by the mighty Mr Hess.


Yeah, you're right that they're mostly ballsier ballads, but they still lack enough edge that I need to get through any modern Frontiers music. :lol
There were a couple of great choruses on there that stood out to me,but overall I don't think I'll be listening to this one again.

Damn.  I'll still buy it.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2016, 05:40:07 AM
Here's ome bullshit cliche, cheesy rock with terrible lyrics, but I quite like it, solid.  Some band called Narnia with CJ Grimmack, who is a stellar guitarist.

https://youtu.be/eJua-nolCJ0
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 06, 2016, 05:47:37 AM
I bought Narnia's debut in 1997 but never really followed up with others.  Pretty straight ahead stuff - good playing but not much variety - and a touch too preachy at times for my taste too.

That song sounds alright , so might at least check out the new one - their first in 7 years by the looks.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2016, 05:50:27 AM
I knew you'd be able to fill me in Brent.  :lol

Yeah, worth a listen going by this tune, I like the singer too.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on June 06, 2016, 12:43:17 PM
Here's ome bullshit cliche, cheesy rock with terrible lyrics, but I quite like it, solid.  Some band called Narnia with CJ Grimmack, who is a stellar guitarist.

https://youtu.be/eJua-nolCJ0

Well, this IS The Bullshit Cliche, Cheesy Rock With Terrible Lyrics Thread isn't it?

:neverusethis:


This is the singer from Golden Resurrection which I love. I've never had a chance to follow up his Narnia career. This new album looks like it's a great place to start.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 06, 2016, 12:45:26 PM
Here's ome bullshit cliche, cheesy rock with terrible lyrics, but I quite like it, solid.  Some band called Narnia with CJ Grimmack, who is a stellar guitarist.

https://youtu.be/eJua-nolCJ0

Well, this IS The Bullshit Cliche, Cheesy Rock With Terrible Lyrics Thread isn't it?

:neverusethis:


GET OUT. Your truths are unwelcome here!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2016, 03:09:39 PM
Here's ome bullshit cliche, cheesy rock with terrible lyrics, but I quite like it, solid.  Some band called Narnia with CJ Grimmack, who is a stellar guitarist.

https://youtu.be/eJua-nolCJ0

Well, this IS The Bullshit Cliche, Cheesy Rock With Terrible Lyrics Thread isn't it?

:neverusethis:


This is the singer from Golden Resurrection which I love. I've never had a chance to follow up his Narnia career. This new album looks like it's a great place to start.

Again, why the fuck do you keep popping up in here?  :lol

Again though, I like the singer a lot.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 06, 2016, 03:51:03 PM
I have the Long Live The King album. Very Yngwie influenced (when he was good) and an ok album. Not loving this song at all.singer is ok but nothing to get X cited about, and those lyrics. Fuck me they're bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Kotowboy on June 06, 2016, 04:05:02 PM
Speaking of AOR i'm currently listening to some Kenny Loggins  :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on June 20, 2016, 06:13:29 PM
This is pretty damn solid from new band featuring Pasi;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1TpGBpNRfw
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on June 20, 2016, 09:58:52 PM
I'll have to keep my eye on that.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 20, 2016, 11:26:01 PM
I didn't find the songwriting very good, but I'd still keep an eye out for the next single because there's potential there.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 21, 2016, 12:39:57 AM
I didn't think the songwriting was too bad - sounds like it has enough little quirks to make them sound a bit different to the usual suspects (emphasis on "a  bit" :lol )    Having said that the vocal sound/melodies do remind me of someone that I can't put my finger on - another AOR band that is.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 21, 2016, 03:37:37 PM
Thought that was ok. A lot better than the Cruzh video I played the other day. That was boring. This was ok. Not that excited about it though. Liked his voice.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 21, 2016, 11:22:30 PM
Thought that was ok. A lot better than the Cruzh video I played the other day. That was boring. This was ok. Not that excited about it though. Liked his voice.

I didn't mind the Cruzh one. Liked the songwriting a bit more than King Company one, even though it had less balls.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 22, 2016, 02:13:07 PM
Thought that was ok. A lot better than the Cruzh video I played the other day. That was boring. This was ok. Not that excited about it though. Liked his voice.

I didn't mind the Cruzh one. Liked the songwriting a bit more than King Company one, even though it had less balls.

Just a band wanting to be def Leppard. And modern def Leppard, not great def Leppard.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 23, 2016, 12:29:21 AM
Thought that was ok. A lot better than the Cruzh video I played the other day. That was boring. This was ok. Not that excited about it though. Liked his voice.

I didn't mind the Cruzh one. Liked the songwriting a bit more than King Company one, even though it had less balls.

Just a band wanting to be def Leppard. And modern def Leppard, not great def Leppard.

Every band in this thread wants to be someone else. :lol Didn't say it was great, but you can't have high standards for Frontiers music.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 08, 2016, 06:26:33 AM
New Eden's Curse;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAL1PBKWTfg&feature=youtu.be

What the fuck, have they turned into Sunstorm or Find Me or some shit?  Actually the new Sunstorm sounds like Soilwork compared to this.  They are not even on Frontiers!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 08, 2016, 06:28:37 AM
It wishes it was as good as Find Me. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 08, 2016, 06:34:45 AM
Yeah what the hell?  Symphony of Sin was a really good album, things looked so promising with the new singer, this is such a step backwards.  I hope the rest of the album isn't like this.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 08, 2016, 06:38:56 AM
Not sure I ever checked out their previous stuff, but this isn't the sound I associate with the name.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on July 08, 2016, 07:51:43 AM
Eden's Purse    ;)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 08, 2016, 01:36:04 PM
Michael Eden will be laughing his cock off. Or he's probably still threatening them with his glock.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 08, 2016, 03:27:45 PM
Seriously, this is damn disappointing.

Eden's Purse    ;)

This.  I can't even defend them and say it's a European Carryall.

Fuck me, a lot of bands making me sad lately.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2016, 06:07:49 AM
This probably doesn't really belong here but whatever.  new DGM song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPyebiLvT3k

Fuckin' good!  Mularoni is a beast!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Bolsters on July 19, 2016, 06:33:37 AM
That's not bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on July 19, 2016, 02:24:20 PM
That's not bad.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2016, 03:28:00 PM
I only have one DGM album, but I think I definitely have to get more, great stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on July 19, 2016, 04:17:38 PM
This probably doesn't really belong here but whatever.  new DGM song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPyebiLvT3k

Fuckin' good!  Mularoni is a beast!

I was impressed. This is the first time I've ever listened to a song of theirs.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2016, 04:37:50 PM
This probably doesn't really belong here but whatever.  new DGM song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPyebiLvT3k

Fuckin' good!  Mularoni is a beast!

I was impressed. This is the first time I've ever listened to a song of theirs.

They seem so underrated.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Prog Snob on July 19, 2016, 04:45:21 PM
They'll just have to go on the waiting list. Plus, I still try to listen to the new Fates and Haken a couple of times a week. Insomnium will probably prompt me to listen to some old Amorphis. Tales from the Thousand Lakes is one of my favorite albums ever.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 20, 2016, 12:48:17 PM
I only have one DGM album, but I think I definitely have to get more, great stuff.

Me to, the last one. This is a cool song. Wasn't as keen on the first one they released from this but this is a cracker.

Just listening to the new Q5 album. It's ok so far - very AC/DC and Saxon sounding. Production isn't helping and the singer has lost a lot of range it seems, though hardly surprising given their age. It's not going to set the world on fire but worth a stream.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2016, 03:22:45 PM
I checked out a song from the Q5 last night, thought it was terrible.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on July 21, 2016, 09:34:37 AM
Like Paul hinted , the Q5 is like a low tier Saxon album.   Something like a low 70's rating from me (won't be revisiting it) , but not as awful as I had been lead to believe either.

I have so many new releases to try and catch up on.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 21, 2016, 03:21:19 PM
I've caught up on a few melodic rock ones Brent from quite a few months ago.

Sunstorm - Easily my fav and an album I keep pumping in the car.  Really like this one, it's not metal no matter what JLT thinks, but a bit harder and more of an edge to what Frontiers have been doing.  Great simple songs with brilliant guitar work.  I think the guitar work is what keeps me coming back, blistering stuff.

Vega - Not bad, but run of the mill Vega.  Didn't give it too much time but since I'm such a fan, I'll probably go back.  Not as strong in the hooks department as the last one and seems a little short, but sounds like the usual quality the band puts out, solid enough.  Could have used a few more faster numbers like the first one.

Treat - Only one listen and didn't really do much for me.  A disappointment after the brilliant Coup.  Seems a bit wimpy and light on, lacks balls.

First Signal - The samples for this one bode well but this is one fucking generic album if ever I've heard one.  Harry does his best to save it and there is a few songs but this again is just by the numbers.  The predictability of these albums they are churning out is starting to make me ill.  There is a couple of good songs but nothing that makes you want to listen again IMO.

The Defiants - Ugh, things started so well with the first three songs which reminded me heavily of Revolve which I was super excited about, then the fairy floss came out.  A couple of real stinkers in the middle to make you cringe and too many ballads towards the end.  A couple of upbeat ones at the end but not enough to keep one interested.  As I said I got the Revolve feel a little at the start with a couple of good songs but the whole thing just didn't live up, while solid enough, again not worth your time

Dynazty - I loved Renatus and still is the only album I've heard other than this new one.  I turned this off three songs before the end.  I don't think I've ever heard a band blatantly rip themselves off over and over again.  Every songs is identical to each other and many off Renatus.  This is beyond WASP territory, couldn't believe it

Soto - I loved the first one but unfortunately I'm not really digging this one.  Every song seems the same whereas the first one had more dynamics and variety.  Seems to lack energy and passion overall.  I was all for this direction but now I think I'm with Brent that JSS should stick to what he's best at.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on July 21, 2016, 06:24:36 PM
From what I recall I wasn't so hot on the Sunstorm and liked the Vega, Treat and First Signal a bit more but on the whole I agree with much of what you said.  Almost everything lately is "solid" and any ratings I give seem to be stuck in the rut of 75-82%.   To some degree I am surprised (and grateful) for the amount of new material we are getting - I thought the genre would be pretty much dead by now if you'd asked me 10 years ago.     But when it's mostly projects done via email/part time stuff that's written and recorded by artists that have lost "the fire" and have a Frontiers offer on the table..........or perhaps need an excuse to tour, then the quality thing is no surprise.   Some of the young "retro" bands are getting a bit embarrassing too  :lol  - having said that there's a few corkers in the metal space.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 21, 2016, 07:49:28 PM
I think the Treat has potential, will have to go back to it.  The Sunstorm took a couple of listens but something keeps drawing me back to it.  The Vega is solid and as I said I am a fan so I know they will get some spins too.  I think I'm just more into the heavier shit at the moment so most of these albums would normally get me going a lot more, but I think my tastes are just shifting a lot.

Yeah, it's hard to see this stuff keep getting churned out, but as you say the way they are made  via email etc. it's probably quite cheap compared to getting everyone together and easy to churn out this stuff, some of these albums though are just on autopilot.

Not much in the genre I'm looking forward too and I really have to start listening before purchasing these.  I purchased all of these except the Dynazty and since hearing it once, I ain't bothering.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 21, 2016, 09:52:44 PM
I've only heard the Sunstorm and First Signal albums. The rest didn't even pass the single test. I generally agree on those two albums though.
The Sunstorm one was solid, and had some edge to it, I still got over it quickly though. Might still give it another listen. The First Signal album seemed promising from the first single, but I found it mostly bland and soft even for standard Frontiers fare.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 22, 2016, 06:28:07 AM
I've only heard the Sunstorm and First Signal albums. The rest didn't even pass the single test. I generally agree on those two albums though.
The Sunstorm one was solid, and had some edge to it, I still got over it quickly though. Might still give it another listen. The First Signal album seemed promising from the first single, but I found it mostly bland and soft even for standard Frontiers fare.

Yeah, pretty much this.  The first First Signal album was a great piece of melodic rock, the new one is just that, so bland and generic it almost makes me sick to be honest.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 22, 2016, 06:44:02 AM
Frontiers have gotten their paws of Goran Edman now;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l85g_qMKX0M

More of the same from the AOR factory.  Sort of has a Find Me, even From the Inside feel and Goran is boss, so it'll get a listen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on July 22, 2016, 06:53:34 AM
Solid  ::)  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 22, 2016, 02:58:42 PM
Solid  ::)  :lol

They just keep churning out the cheese.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 22, 2016, 04:16:01 PM
I may be n a minority but I've always disliked his voice. Can't even say why.
Another one straight off the production line. Too many keys for me. Too happy sounding. Not for me.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 25, 2016, 07:32:26 PM
Four songs into the Ted Poley and I've had enough.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 26, 2016, 12:02:47 PM
Four songs into the Ted Poley and I've had enough.

 :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 29, 2016, 05:16:18 PM
Cry of Dawn with Goran;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChVyiEBN0G8

Generic as it comes, but decent enough.  Will be worth a listen.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 29, 2016, 10:49:30 PM
When I listened to it yesterday, I literally said "I already have this fucking album 10 times over". :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 30, 2016, 03:18:10 AM
Frontiers must have blown all its cash on the Tateyrche bollocks. Mind you, if they used the Frontiers house writers on that it would be an improvement.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 30, 2016, 02:39:14 PM
Gotta love D.A.Ds stage creativity.  :lol

(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13718614_1215598221824091_855252312216186982_n.jpg?oh=f58af8b536cc4e0b2e940326204172f3&oe=58291B4F)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 31, 2016, 04:45:39 AM
When I listened to it yesterday, I literally said "I already have this fucking album 10 times over". :lol

I have it about 20 times over I'd say.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 31, 2016, 04:49:07 AM
When I listened to it yesterday, I literally said "I already have this fucking album 10 times over". :lol

I have it about 20 times over I'd say.  :lol

Yeah, I think I was being far too generous with that figure. :lol
2 albums, 20 albums, it all just blurs together into "Frontiers medley" anyway.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 31, 2016, 05:00:21 AM
I might look into making a Frontiers best of album or something, that would be interesting to see what we'd all come up with.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 31, 2016, 05:08:41 AM
I'd be interested to see what you'd include.

Instead, I might make a Frontiers samiest-of album. You won't believe it's not the same song repeated 15 times!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 31, 2016, 05:11:16 AM
I'd be interested to see what you'd include.

Instead, I might make a Frontiers samiest-of album. You won't believe it's not the same song repeated 15 times!

I think there would actually be quite a lot I'd miss.  I think input from all of us we would come up with something decent.  Just depends which way you go with it, the samey one you're talking about would be a hoot.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 31, 2016, 05:13:50 AM
I'd be interested to see what you'd include.

Instead, I might make a Frontiers samiest-of album. You won't believe it's not the same song repeated 15 times!

I think there would actually be quite a lot I'd miss.  I think input from all of us we would come up with something decent.  Just depends which way you go with it, the samey one you're talking about would be a hoot.

I've decided the album cover will be a factory production line of fake dog poop. If that's not the perfect metaphor, I don't know what is.

If I were to make a serious one, a lot of it would probably be softer than your tastes.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 31, 2016, 05:16:21 AM
Yeah, I thought yours would be softer and I wouldn't have any Stan Bush on mine, so we would have to have one each which would be personalised.  A collective one we would just have to submit a certain number of songs each.  I don't think I'd have much on it from anything over the last couple of years either.

If I get some time this week I might come up with something.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 31, 2016, 05:21:18 AM
I might give it a crack. I'll probably limit it to one CD, no more than one song per album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on July 31, 2016, 06:52:26 AM
Hear In The Now Frontiers  :metal
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on July 31, 2016, 02:42:53 PM
Hear In The Now Frontiers  :metal

Oh wow, just wow, Brent fucking nailed it.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: jjrock88 on July 31, 2016, 02:46:48 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 31, 2016, 03:46:14 PM
There's nothing "now" about Frontiers.
Let's party like its 1989...
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on July 31, 2016, 10:39:02 PM
There's nothing "now" about Frontiers.
Let's party like its 1989...

Man, I wish Frontiers was churning out albums even half as good as we were getting in 1989!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 01, 2016, 04:37:09 AM
There's nothing "now" about Frontiers.
Let's party like its 1989...

Man, I wish Frontiers was churning out albums even half as good as we were getting in 1989!

Yeah, I was more referring to the dross that was getting signed (and dropped) rather than the good stuff.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 01, 2016, 04:41:43 AM
I think I'd still probably take most 1989 dross over Frontiers' current best though. :lol

I think there's only been one Frontiers album this year that didn't let me down. There have been many promising lineups of musicians recently, but they're not delivering the goods.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 01, 2016, 05:59:16 AM
I think I'd still probably take most 1989 dross over Frontiers' current best though. :lol

I think there's only been one Frontiers album this year that didn't let me down. There have been many promising lineups of musicians recently, but they're not delivering the goods.

Which one's that?
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 01, 2016, 06:54:12 AM
I think I'd still probably take most 1989 dross over Frontiers' current best though. :lol

I think there's only been one Frontiers album this year that didn't let me down. There have been many promising lineups of musicians recently, but they're not delivering the goods.

Which one's that?

Inglorious, so not the typical Frontiers production line style of album, but straight up hard rock. The second half of the album could have been better, but there are great rockers in the first half.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 01, 2016, 02:49:11 PM
Still haven't listened to it, but what I heard, I thought it was just generic rock stuff that didn't do it for me.  I'll give it a listen though.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on August 01, 2016, 02:54:04 PM
Gotta love D.A.Ds stage creativity.  :lol

(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13718614_1215598221824091_855252312216186982_n.jpg?oh=f58af8b536cc4e0b2e940326204172f3&oe=58291B4F)

Wow, that's awesome!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 01, 2016, 05:35:29 PM
Shit, after I turned the Ted Poley off after song four with that dirty Issa bitch, I decided to go back and listen to the rest of the tracks, and surprisingly, everything after that song is pretty damn good, given the style.  Better than the Defiants I think.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 01, 2016, 08:21:53 PM
Still haven't listened to it, but what I heard, I thought it was just generic rock stuff that didn't do it for me.  I'll give it a listen though.

I wouldn't say it's generic (especially not any more than anything else in this thread :lol), but it is hard rock, with some of the songs in the second half being a bit heavier towards metal. Probably not your thing anyway.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 12:03:51 AM
Still haven't listened to it, but what I heard, I thought it was just generic rock stuff that didn't do it for me.  I'll give it a listen though.

I wouldn't say it's generic (especially not any more than anything else in this thread :lol), but it is hard rock, with some of the songs in the second half being a bit heavier towards metal. Probably not your thing anyway.

I'll try and give it a listen tonight.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 02, 2016, 12:10:24 AM
What part of "probably not your thing" did you not get? :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 12:14:10 AM
What part of "probably not your thing" did you not get? :P

I don't believe you.  :P
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 02, 2016, 12:16:30 AM
Have you forgotten rule #1 of the melodic rock thread? If either one of us likes something, the other one must dislike it. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 12:24:29 AM
Have you forgotten rule #1 of the melodic rock thread? If either one of us likes something, the other one must dislike it. :lol

Yeah I know, but we'll see if that is still the unwritten law of this thread later on.  :tup

Just so you know I'll be going into listening to this album with negative thoughts already against it.  :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 02, 2016, 12:26:07 AM
That's different to us listening to any other Frontiers album how? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 12:29:20 AM
That's different to us listening to any other Frontiers album how? :neverusethis:

I never use to, but you monsters changed me.  :rollin
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 02, 2016, 12:30:56 AM
We're all a terrible influence on each other. :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 12:38:02 AM
We're all a terrible influence on each other. :lol

We keep coming back though, must say something.  :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 02, 2016, 12:39:20 AM
Blob liking it was a bad sign Kade but Blob suggesting that you won't like it overrides that and suggests you should enjoy it.  :lol

FWIW I thought it was a strong album.  You can tell it's not just another "project" with the house band/writers/producers.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 12:41:04 AM
Blob liking it was a bad sign Kade but Blob suggesting that you won't like it overrides that and suggests you should enjoy it.  :lol

I think that's why I'm so keen to check it out now, hopefully it's a blinder and I get one up on him haha!!
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 02, 2016, 12:43:51 AM
I think I'm pretty well tuned in on whether wolfking is going to like something or not. See rule #1!

But hey, I hope by some miracle you like it too. I think it's really enjoyable. :tup
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 12:46:04 AM
I think I'm pretty well tuned in on whether wolfking is going to like something or not. See rule #1!

But hey, I hope by some miracle you like it too. I think it's really enjoyable. :tup

I'm kind of looking forward now to getting home late tonight and listening.  Won't pretend to like it if I don't though, will give it an honest apprasial.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 02, 2016, 12:47:30 AM
I would guess you're more likely to dig the latter half of the album than the first half, if anything.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 02, 2016, 05:21:05 AM
Shit, after I turned the Ted Poley off after song four with that dirty Issa bitch, I decided to go back and listen to the rest of the tracks, and surprisingly, everything after that song is pretty damn good, given the style.  Better than the Defiants I think.

That was my opinion a few pages back.
Haven't been back to either though.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 05:52:53 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/hardline-to-release-human-nature-album-in-october/

Fuck yeah, new Hardline, hopefully it hasn't turned into the same old Frontiers formula but that whore Allesandro is back at it again so we'll see.  Josh Ramos back on the axe too, he's a tasteful guitarist.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 02, 2016, 06:24:21 AM
I still need to listen more to Hardline. I've checked out the better stuff on Spotify and enjoyed it, and I'll check this one out. I also hope it doesn't become standard Frontiers fare.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 06:36:40 AM
Alright, I'm about 3/4 of the way through the Inglorious, and surprisingly it's quite solid.  Blob, you are right, this normally wouldn't be up my alley and I remember writing them off after the first song.  I'm not normally into this somewhat generic classic rock type thing as it's been done to death, but what these guys do here is quite fresh and well done.  The singer is amazing, although it's slowing down a lot and I'm losing interest at the moment as Girl Got A Gun plays. 

I don't think it's quite purchase worthy but really nicely done for the style, and I think I'll listen a couple more times to properly judge.  Still somewhat undecided, but impressive.

I think at this stage the rule could still stand, this might just be a slight exception.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 02, 2016, 06:39:59 AM
At least you gave it another fair chance, and I'm glad your opinion improved a little. I listened to it again today after our discussion, and found myself enjoying the second half more than usual.
They do the hard rock style pretty well, with a lot of energy, and killer vocals. I hope they manage to stick together for another album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 06:41:36 AM
I think that's the thing, what they are doing, they do really well and high class.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 02, 2016, 08:17:50 AM
I like it. A couple of crackers on it, but a bit hit and miss. They are recording album number 2 now.

Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 02, 2016, 08:20:07 AM
I like it. A couple of crackers on it, but a bit hit and miss. They are recording album number 2 now.



Sweeeeeet. I think for a first album, they did a great job, but I think they were also still finding their sound a bit. I have high hopes for their second album.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 03:01:37 PM
I think for a debut it's very good and well done.  Would be interested in hearing what they come up with for album number two also.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2016, 04:14:12 PM
So I'm checking out Inglorious now. Not the type of music I usually spin, but it is really good so far. Great channeling of 70's Whitesnake with an updated sound. It's actually pretty cool, and not sure it deserves to be in the Wuss Thread.
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 04:42:50 PM
So I'm checking out Inglorious now. Not the type of music I usually spin, but it is really good so far. Great channeling of 70's Whitesnake with an updated sound. It's actually pretty cool, and not sure it deserves to be in the Wuss Thread.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/take-that-back-now.jpg)
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2016, 04:49:37 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2016, 04:52:41 PM
I post that pic as I'm listening to Be'lakor, some melodic death metal.  :rollin
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: bl5150 on August 02, 2016, 06:31:41 PM
Wuss death metal  ;D
Title: Re: The official melodic rock/AOR thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 02, 2016, 11:09:23 PM
You know he's right though. :lol

We should rename this thread to The Official Frontiers & Friends Thread v. Cynicism to the MAX

Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 03, 2016, 12:12:19 AM
I changed the thread title, what do we think?  :lol
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: Bolsters on August 03, 2016, 12:14:11 AM
This is a much more accurate thread title.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 03, 2016, 12:20:06 AM
This is a much more accurate thread title.

We only have Frontiers to blame.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 03, 2016, 01:18:20 AM
:lol I like it.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 03, 2016, 01:19:32 AM
It's Alessandro VanDamio's fault.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: Lowdz on August 03, 2016, 03:41:28 AM
 :lol  :lol :lol

Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 03, 2016, 05:36:04 AM
It's Alessandro VanDamio's fault.

It really fucking is.  He's like 90% to blame.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 03, 2016, 06:56:03 AM
Shit, I'm actually really quite enjoying this Ted Poley, I feel so dirty.  Almost like if I saw a physical copy I'd pick it up.  There's some really good songs towards the end.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: Lowdz on August 04, 2016, 02:58:41 AM
The return of Kane Roberts, albeit as a guest on this Maverick track. I like it, much better than the Frontiers fare of late. Nothing original or earthshaking, but at least they sound like a band. Great vocal from the Poodles singer too.
https://youtu.be/huc7v8B4qJM
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 04, 2016, 03:40:27 AM
I remember reading that the band will be acting as Kane Roberts' backing band on a tour later in the year.  Decent stuff.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 04, 2016, 06:27:54 AM
The return of Kane Roberts, albeit as a guest on this Maverick track. I like it, much better than the Frontiers fare of late. Nothing original or earthshaking, but at least they sound like a band. Great vocal from the Poodles singer too.
https://youtu.be/huc7v8B4qJM

Pretty damn solid and lots of energy.  Never heard of this band before.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 04, 2016, 07:15:30 AM
WE ARE THE YOUTH GONE WILD.

I definitely dig the style. I'll check out the album.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 04, 2016, 03:01:12 PM
WE ARE THE YOUTH GONE WILD.

I definitely dig the style. I'll check out the album.

Hang on, we both can't like it now?!  :mehlin
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 04, 2016, 10:50:02 PM
WE ARE THE YOUTH GONE WILD.

I definitely dig the style. I'll check out the album.

Hang on, we both can't like it now?!  :mehlin

The rules are somewhat looser when it comes to singles. If we both like the album though, then we can start worrying.

Speaking of which, I need to check out this Ted Poley now. :lol
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: Nel on August 04, 2016, 10:57:07 PM
The only thing I know about Ted Poley are those Sonic Adventure songs he did back in the late 90s/early 00s.  :lol
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 04, 2016, 11:21:41 PM
Oh shit, turns out he sang City Escape from Sonic Adventure 2. At first I thought you were getting confused with the dude from Hardline who sings for Crush 40. I know Paul Shortino sang something for one of those Sonic games too. :lol
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: Nel on August 05, 2016, 01:27:07 AM
Admittedly, I do confuse him with the Crush 40 guy but I've seen the end credits to those games so many times I knew he sang something on them. City Escape's a classic. A cheesy, cheesy classic.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 05, 2016, 01:31:37 AM
I remember the feeling of wtf the first time I played that level and heard that music. :lol But I've grown to like it, along with the Crush 40 stuff.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2016, 06:24:14 AM
I was a Sonic fanatic on all the master system and megadrive games but never played many of them on other formats so I can honestly say I've never played Sonic Adventure or heard any of the songs from it.  I should check them out.

WE ARE THE YOUTH GONE WILD.

I definitely dig the style. I'll check out the album.

Hang on, we both can't like it now?!  :mehlin

The rules are somewhat looser when it comes to singles. If we both like the album though, then we can start worrying.

Speaking of which, I need to check out this Ted Poley now. :lol

Gotcha.  Would like to know what you think of the Ted Poley too!
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 05, 2016, 06:32:01 AM
I don't really care for the games, but I like some of the songs. This is probably my favourite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEzXFuYN89k

Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2016, 06:39:20 AM
Ah, good old Johnny!  Not bad, nothing special though.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 05, 2016, 06:41:00 AM
Yeah, but it's pretty badass for an early 2000s platformer though. :lol
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2016, 06:44:12 AM
Yeah, but it's pretty badass for an early 2000s platformer though. :lol

For sure.

But I always loved the amazing tunes for the old Sonic sega ones, the mega drive ones especially.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 05, 2016, 06:50:34 AM
You can't beat those Mega Drive Sonic soundtracks. :tup

Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2016, 06:53:27 AM
You can't beat those Mega Drive Sonic soundtracks. :tup

No way.  I think Sonic and Knuckles had the best music for me if I remember rightly.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 05, 2016, 06:56:00 AM
I prefer the soundtracks on the first two games done by Nakamura slightly over the S3/K soundtrack, just a bit more consistent imo. But they're all killer.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2016, 02:29:16 PM
I prefer the soundtracks on the first two games done by Nakamura slightly over the S3/K soundtrack, just a bit more consistent imo. But they're all killer.

I gotta put some time aside and play all these Sonic games again via the emulator soon, I'm feeling nostalgic.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2016, 06:06:42 AM
Another Goran Edman song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpjkiMSxt1M

Absolultely generic as fuck, but it's alright, I dig it man, nice mood and groove.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 10, 2016, 08:44:13 AM
Yeah, pretty much agree. Insert stock Frontiers reply here. :lol
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 10, 2016, 08:49:28 AM
Solid  ;D
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 10, 2016, 03:00:41 PM
98%?  :lol
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 10, 2016, 05:17:35 PM
yeah........you need to work up to it though.


Generic as fuck.................................alright........................I dig it man.......................98%  :lol
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 10, 2016, 10:44:12 PM
Speaking of predictable - and I struggle to even think of them as "rock" these days - but a sample of the latest Bon Jovi crap

https://youtu.be/i0qjnwucflQ
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: Bolsters on August 10, 2016, 10:51:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpjkiMSxt1M
dat first Youtube comment tho
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 10, 2016, 10:54:15 PM
:rollin
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 10, 2016, 10:59:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpjkiMSxt1M
dat first Youtube comment tho

 :lol
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: Podaar on August 11, 2016, 06:35:01 AM
dat first Youtube comment tho

 :rollin

...and I don't disagree.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 11, 2016, 06:37:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpjkiMSxt1M
dat first Youtube comment tho

 :lol

Alright, fess up boys, which one of you posted that?
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 11, 2016, 06:45:38 AM
Any chance of you incorporating some of that into the thread title Kade?  :corn
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 11, 2016, 06:46:57 AM
Any chance of you incorporating some of that into the thread title Kade?  :corn

I tried many different things when I canged it, it just doesn't give you a decent amount of characters IMO, what's there is maxed out!  :lol
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 11, 2016, 06:48:29 AM
Pfft, such a goo gobbler.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 11, 2016, 06:48:52 AM
Try that.  That's the only part of the quote that I can put in without getting myself banned!!  :rollin
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 11, 2016, 06:50:51 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: Bolsters on August 11, 2016, 06:54:02 AM
Ken would be proud.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 11, 2016, 06:54:33 AM
My old man's name is Ken.  :justjen

EDIT:  Ah, he's older than 49 hahaha.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 11, 2016, 07:00:29 AM
:lol Perfect.

I'm proud to be a fellow goo gobbling melodic rock fan.
Title: Re: The new improved Cynics"R"Us melodic rock/AOR thread v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: Lowdz on August 14, 2016, 03:43:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpjkiMSxt1M
dat first Youtube comment tho

That is fucking awful.
Frontiers will sign anything with a keyboard on it.
Shit. Shit. Shit.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: Prog Snob on August 14, 2016, 06:38:06 PM
I was just listening to Blue Tears. That was one of my favorite obscure albums to listen to. The singer sounded like JBJ and their choruses reminded me of Def Leppard. Did those guys ever doing anything else? I feel like I've asked this once before and I am pretty sure someone said a couple of the members did something recently, but I can't be 100% on that.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 14, 2016, 10:17:48 PM
I was just listening to Blue Tears. That was one of my favorite obscure albums to listen to. The singer sounded like JBJ and their choruses reminded me of Def Leppard. Did those guys ever doing anything else? I feel like I've asked this once before and I am pretty sure someone said a couple of the members did something recently, but I can't be 100% on that.

Never heard of 'em.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 14, 2016, 10:30:15 PM
I was just listening to Blue Tears. That was one of my favorite obscure albums to listen to. The singer sounded like JBJ and their choruses reminded me of Def Leppard. Did those guys ever doing anything else? I feel like I've asked this once before and I am pretty sure someone said a couple of the members did something recently, but I can't be 100% on that.

The debut has a couple of great tracks but I always felt they lacked something.........a bit of an underground classic though .  The last track Thunder In The Night is the only one I ever played regularly back in the day.

They released a few demo quality discs in the 2000's and unfortunately main man Gregg Fulkerson passed away 6 or 7 years ago.

He also did a modern rock album (Attraction 65) which was highly rated by many , but didn't do much for me.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: Prog Snob on August 14, 2016, 11:04:59 PM
I was just listening to Blue Tears. That was one of my favorite obscure albums to listen to. The singer sounded like JBJ and their choruses reminded me of Def Leppard. Did those guys ever doing anything else? I feel like I've asked this once before and I am pretty sure someone said a couple of the members did something recently, but I can't be 100% on that.

The debut has a couple of great tracks but I always felt they lacked something.........a bit of an underground classic though .  The last track Thunder In The Night is the only one I ever played regularly back in the day.

They released a few demo quality discs in the 2000's and unfortunately main man Gregg Fulkerson passed away 6 or 7 years ago.

He also did a modern rock album (Attraction 65) which was highly rated by many , but didn't do much for me.

Damn... That's why his name came up that last time. Sad.

I loved True Romance and Rockin' With The Radio. Thunder in the Night was great, too.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 22, 2016, 06:03:31 AM
New Hardline;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67pmoEB4sjE

Meh, it's cool I guess, certainly nothing new and exciting though.  Will wait for the album before judging.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 22, 2016, 06:24:31 AM
New Hardline;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67pmoEB4sjE

Meh, it's cool I guess, certainly nothing new and exciting though.  Will wait for the album before judging.

You'd think they could change the background colour of their vids from white to beige or cream or something (thanks Richie) ........2 secs in and you know it's a Frontiers vid.  :)

Not an original idea/melody in site .......I kept going until the solo to see if it was any good (not really)

Not bad - quality performance and production but not enough to get me interested at this stage.   I would like to see his voice pop up in something less samey (Axel Rudi Pell doesn't count :lol  )
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 22, 2016, 08:45:48 AM
A few days ago Frontiers posted a little snippet that only showed that opening riff, and I was excited to hear the rest of the song. Unfortunately, I agree with wolfking (unfortunate that it wasn't exciting, not unfortunate that I agreed with wolfking :lol )

The style was ok, the vocals were ok, production was ok, but the song was middle of the road, as usual. I'll still check out the album and hope there's something better on there, but more often than not, the first single is as good as it gets.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 22, 2016, 08:53:26 AM
Hopefully there's an Issa duet to mix things up a bit.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 22, 2016, 08:58:04 AM
:lol Just what they need to mix it up!

At least the latest Find Me album had the decency to use some other female vocalist for the duet track (which I actually really liked btw)
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 22, 2016, 03:20:08 PM
New Hardline;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67pmoEB4sjE

Meh, it's cool I guess, certainly nothing new and exciting though.  Will wait for the album before judging.

meh is right.  still decent though, but not enough to get any interest from me.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 22, 2016, 03:28:23 PM
Hopefully there's an Issa duet to mix things up a bit.

 :facepalm:

Blob said it best I think, 'middle of the road.'  That's exactly what it is unfortunately.  Was looking for more out of the solo from Josh too.  We'll see, but how long can they just keep churning out this stuff?
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 22, 2016, 10:57:17 PM
Hopefully there's an Issa duet to mix things up a bit.

 :facepalm:

Blob said it best I think, 'middle of the road.'  That's exactly what it is unfortunately.  Was looking for more out of the solo from Josh too.  We'll see, but how long can they just keep churning out this stuff?

That would make a great album (or even band) name for the next Frontiers project. "Middle of the Road". :lol
Complete with dodgy Photoshopped cover of a highway with a "ONE WAY" sign on it, and Issa trying to hitchhike on the side of the road. And maybe a pothole with a bunch of old 80s records in there.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 22, 2016, 11:34:10 PM
Hopefully there's an Issa duet to mix things up a bit.

 :facepalm:

Blob said it best I think, 'middle of the road.'  That's exactly what it is unfortunately.  Was looking for more out of the solo from Josh too.  We'll see, but how long can they just keep churning out this stuff?

That would make a great album (or even band) name for the next Frontiers project. "Middle of the Road". :lol
Complete with dodgy Photoshopped cover of a highway with a "ONE WAY" sign on it, and Issa trying to hitchhike on the side of the road. And maybe a pothole with a bunch of old 80s records in there.

 :lol

And a sign on the side of the road "Welcome to the city of DelVecchio - Population 1 "
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 22, 2016, 11:37:00 PM
:lol Or a factory in the distance with a sign on it that says "DELVECCHIO"
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 22, 2016, 11:39:17 PM
DelVecchio Cookies - we Issa the best  :lol
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 22, 2016, 11:40:11 PM
Fitting with the thread, shouldn't it be DelVecchio bubblegum? :lol

.......something something goo gobbler.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 22, 2016, 11:40:51 PM
I was thinking "cookie cutter" music but yeah - either is cool  ;D
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 22, 2016, 11:44:49 PM
Oh right. :lolpalm:

Now I really need to Photoshop this.




And send it to Frontiers.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 23, 2016, 12:30:35 AM
Hopefully there's an Issa duet to mix things up a bit.

 :facepalm:

Blob said it best I think, 'middle of the road.'  That's exactly what it is unfortunately.  Was looking for more out of the solo from Josh too.  We'll see, but how long can they just keep churning out this stuff?


That would make a great album (or even band) name for the next Frontiers project. "Middle of the Road". :lol
Complete with dodgy Photoshopped cover of a highway with a "ONE WAY" sign on it, and Issa trying to hitchhike on the side of the road. And maybe a pothole with a bunch of old 80s records in there.

Don't let Kade in on the design or Issa may be roadkill.

There probably should be an eagle in there somewhere too Blob...........taking care of Issa perhaps .
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 23, 2016, 01:17:16 AM
The death of melodic rock seems to be melodic rock, kinda ironic.

And what's up with Issa, did I miss something?
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: bl5150 on August 23, 2016, 01:23:24 AM
The death of melodic rock seems to be melodic rock, kinda ironic.

And what's up with Issa, did I miss something?

Aside from her being rather ubiquitous at Frontiers , just having some fun as regards to Kade's passionate dislike of her.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 23, 2016, 01:40:53 AM
Ah, ok.

Haven't heard a single note from her and the way it sounds here I didn't miss much. The photos of her turned me off, not necessarily because of her looks but because there wasn't anything natural in them.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2016, 05:44:28 AM
And what's up with Issa, did I miss something?

She's just an ugly whore who can't sing for shit.
Title: Re: The Goo Gobbling bubblegum melodic rock/AOR carnival v. Frontiers made us do it!
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2016, 05:46:41 AM
The death of melodic rock seems to be melodic rock, kinda ironic.
:lol

Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 23, 2016, 06:23:09 AM
Took me a sec to find the thread with yet another name change. :lol

New Tyketto song-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RubUAYE0HYc

I like it. Sounds like something they wrote and recorded themselves, not just plugged into the Frontiers cookie cutter. It's a softer song, but it has that legit late '80s / early '90s feel, and great production, not like that other goo gobbler stuff. If there are some rockers on this album, it could be quite good.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2016, 06:30:43 AM
Issa is Australian for Winger.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 23, 2016, 07:57:56 AM
Quote
The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!

 :rollin

Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on August 23, 2016, 08:02:20 AM
Hopefully for Issa's sake she doesn't Google herself - this is probably the only regular active discussion on her  :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2016, 09:23:37 AM
That Tyketto song absolutely f-ing blows.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on August 23, 2016, 03:56:33 PM
Issa is Australian for Winger.

I don't know how you can mention both in the same sentence like that. Issa is a sad indictment of the state of melodic rock.

The new Hardline song is pretty typical del Vechio bollocks but it is somewhat saved by Johnny Gioelli.
The Tyketto is a let down. Not a total write off but not great.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2016, 05:26:38 AM
Issa is Australian for Winger.

What the fucking fuck?!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2016, 05:27:51 AM
Hopefully for Issa's sake she doesn't Google herself - this is probably the only regular active discussion on her  :lol

More fool us then I spose!  :rollin
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2016, 05:30:21 AM
Made it to the start of the second verse of that Tyketto song, what a steaming pile of shit.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 24, 2016, 05:34:27 AM
Eh, better than anything else I've heard in this thread for a while.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2016, 05:42:59 AM
Eh, better than anything else I've heard in this thread for a while.

Don't be like that Blob, you remember the rule, you liked it so.....  ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 24, 2016, 06:08:06 AM
True. :lol

Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on August 24, 2016, 08:04:00 AM
Issa is Australian for Winger.

What the fucking fuck?!

 ;D

Made it to the start of the second verse of that Tyketto song, what a steaming pile of shit.

Yeah I said that. I actually went into it with an open mind.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on September 04, 2016, 03:34:43 AM
Just heard the new track from Mitch Malloy (nearly joined Van Halen at one time). Jesus he's ripped off the Man on the Silver Mountain riff big time. Quite like the song though. A bit heavier than I expected.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j859-1GyvhA
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 04, 2016, 03:37:57 AM
Never heard of him. Didn't mind the song, maybe a little too upbeat, but worth keeping an eye on.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 04, 2016, 09:25:39 AM
It sounds like Mitch was actually in VH for an extremely brief moment before DLR came back.  Good vocals on him.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 04, 2016, 04:05:53 PM
Never checked out anything from before before really.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on September 05, 2016, 08:24:03 AM
Just had a listen to the full Mitch Malloy album.   Zzzzzzz

A couple of good rockers and a decent ballad but for the most part it's a basic , good time , rock and roll record that could've been written in a couple of days.  He has/had a great voice but , even though it has the advantage of not sounding like everything else at the moment , it's very basic stuff.

If you like his voice check out the s/t 1992 album  - this (and one or two others off that album) are the only tracks of his that I played a bit back in the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftH8oP9q8Pc

For the most part I reckon his voice is too good for the vast majority of material he has been on.  ANd he would've added little to VH in the songwriting department if he had been retained.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on September 05, 2016, 08:29:29 AM
I have literally never heard of Mitch Malloy.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2016, 03:37:09 PM
Whenever I hear his name I always think it's Mick Molloy.  Brent will know who that is.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on September 05, 2016, 05:04:24 PM
Whenever I hear his name I always think it's Mick Molloy.  Brent will know who that is.  :lol

Guess what I typed into iTunes Search last night? :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2016, 05:51:41 PM
Whenever I hear his name I always think it's Mick Molloy.  Brent will know who that is.  :lol

Guess what I typed into iTunes Search last night? :lol

 :rollin
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on September 06, 2016, 02:43:05 PM
I've never been a fan at all but it came up on my Facebook. That riff though. If it made any money, lawyers would be circling.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 06, 2016, 04:17:42 PM
Just had a listen, yeah so blatant.  It's alright, but nothing new, so I'll pass.  He has nice teeth though.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 07, 2016, 05:34:00 AM
Another Hardline song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrNY7wbxYPY

Ugh, I might even pass on this.  Not giving this song much of a chance, but on first listen, I'm really unimpressed.

Fuck off Del Vicchio!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on September 07, 2016, 05:52:15 AM
Dunno if anyone has heard the album by July Reign on Andrew's Melodicrock Records but he has really dropped the ball with this one.   There's some good stuff here and there - I checked it out because of Carsten Schulz who I don't mind in Evidence One - but a number of tracks sound right out of tune.  I was listening to some of it wondering how it could get through quality control.

Anyway............don't bother if you were going to.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 07, 2016, 05:54:12 AM
Evidence One are a cool band.  A shame it's so shit Brent.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 07, 2016, 05:54:38 AM
Another Hardline song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrNY7wbxYPY

Ugh, I might even pass on this.  Not giving this song much of a chance, but on first listen, I'm really unimpressed.

Fuck off Del Vicchio!

I heard it yesterday and was disappointed. It starts off with a cool riff, but it just goes quickly downhill from there. Didn't last past the first chorus.

Dunno if anyone has heard the album by July Reign on Andrew's Melodicrock Records but he has really dropped the ball with this one.   There's some good stuff here and there - I checked it out because of Carsten Schulz who I don't mind in Evidence One - but a number of tracks sound right out of tune.  I was listening to some of it wondering how it could get through quality control.

Anyway............don't bother if you were going to.

Haven't even heard of it, so wasn't going to. :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Bolsters on September 09, 2016, 11:48:38 PM
I'm currently listening to the new Meat Loaf album. Meat Loaf sounds like Lou Reed on Lulu now unfortunately, this first track is not good at all, and seems an especially poor choice for an album opener. Nine tracks to go.

Reason I post about it here is because they don't even like it over at Melodicrock.com (https://www.melodicrock.com/articles/reviews/2016/09/09/meat-loaf-braver-we-are-review) :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 10, 2016, 12:19:09 AM
Anything below 80% is a failing grade at MR.com, so if they only gave it 35%, it must be literally unlistenable.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Bolsters on September 10, 2016, 01:36:46 AM
Going All The Way has parts of a good song in there, but it often falls flat in the places where it shouldn't, and the vocals can be pretty cringeworthy. 25 years ago Steinman could have made it really work. That's about the most positive thing I can say about the album, the other songs are pretty much abysmal.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2016, 06:43:48 AM
New Eden's Curse song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_W_eOGpZMk

Just like the first one, fuckin' crap.  What happened, the last album was so good!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 23, 2016, 06:48:02 AM
I wouldn't go as far as saying it's fucking crap, but very run of the mill stuff. I don't know if I've heard any of their older stuff. Hard to keep track sometimes. :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on September 23, 2016, 06:49:42 AM
I wouldn't go as far as saying it's fucking crap, but very run of the mill stuff. I don't know if I've heard any of their older stuff. Hard to keep track sometimes. :lol

Surprised you haven't heard No Holy Man (duet with JLB)
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 23, 2016, 06:56:18 AM
I wouldn't go as far as saying it's fucking crap, but very run of the mill stuff. I don't know if I've heard any of their older stuff. Hard to keep track sometimes. :lol

Surprised you haven't heard No Holy Man (duet with JLB)

So am I! Doesn't even ring a bell. I'd have remembered this awful music video. :lol A better song than this new one.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2016, 07:26:59 AM
I wouldn't go as far as saying it's fucking crap, but very run of the mill stuff. I don't know if I've heard any of their older stuff. Hard to keep track sometimes. :lol

Just about everything they have done up to this point has been good to excellent.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on September 23, 2016, 07:36:54 AM
Only an Issa duet will save this one now.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on September 23, 2016, 07:41:14 AM
Are they allowed to do that? Pretty sure Frontiers permanently keep her in the factory ready at all times for their own projects.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on September 23, 2016, 07:42:29 AM
I said "Oh Lord Jesus Issa Far!"
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on September 23, 2016, 02:46:38 PM
New Eden's Curse song;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_W_eOGpZMk

Just like the first one, fuckin' crap.  What happened, the last album was so good!

just like Blob said, run of the mill meh stuff.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2016, 04:54:30 AM
Are they allowed to do that? Pretty sure Frontiers permanently keep her in the factory ready at all times for their own projects.

I'm sure they'd hire her out by the hour.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2016, 04:11:36 AM
I took a listen to the Cry of Dawn as what I'd heard sounded interesting.  Besides a decent couple of tracks at the start, it's as stale and generic as anything that Frontiers has delivered lately, maybe even moreso.  A shame cause Goram sounds pretty good.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on October 04, 2016, 03:22:10 AM
I took a listen to the Cry of Dawn as what I'd heard sounded interesting.  Besides a decent couple of tracks at the start, it's as stale and generic as anything that Frontiers has delivered lately, maybe even moreso.  A shame cause Goram sounds pretty good.

Goran never sounds good to me - he sounds so whiny. Was listening to Yngwie's Eclipse the other day. Great album but would be so much better with JLT singing. Or pretty much any other singer Yngwie has had (except himself of course  :lol)
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 04, 2016, 04:29:46 AM
Oh is that the same dude? I actually like the singing on Eclipse, but even then he was clearly no JLT. Lacking the power and range.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on October 04, 2016, 05:39:23 AM
I will say that Fire and Ice is a really underrated Yngwie record IMO.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on October 04, 2016, 05:43:46 AM
I will say that Fire and Ice is a really underrated Yngwie record IMO.

I did like some tracks on that but it was also a bit of a Skipathon.   I haven't played it in years but what I do recall (at time of release) was that I was playing the title track and Final Curtain quite a bit.  And that I thought the lead single (Teaser) was a bit limp wristed.   :)

Having said all that it's a fucking masterpiece compared to some of his recent stuff .
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on October 04, 2016, 05:58:48 AM
Ugh, just watched 30 seconds of a new Hardline song.  Sappy piano ballad with, you guessed it on piano.  Fuck man, I don't have time to sit through this shit, I have to get up at 4am.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 04, 2016, 06:00:05 AM
Ugh, just watched 30 seconds of a new Hardline song.  Sappy piano ballad with, you guessed it on piano.  Fuck man, I don't have time to sit through this shit, I have to get up at 4am.

When it started off with Del Vecchio sitting at a piano, I was like oh shit. I skipped right through it to see if it picked up at all, but it didn't. Screw that. We know these albums are gonna have the sappy ballads. We want rockers dammit! :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on October 04, 2016, 06:01:21 AM
Ugh, just watched 30 seconds of a new Hardline song.  Sappy piano ballad with, you guessed it on piano.  Fuck man, I don't have time to sit through this shit, I have to get up at 4am.

When it started off with Del Vecchio sitting at a piano, I was like oh shit. I skipped right through it to see if it picked up at all, but it didn't. Screw that. We know these albums are gonna have the sappy ballads. We want rockers dammit! :lol

(https://s02.yapfiles.ru/files/394818/FuckYeah.jpg)
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 04, 2016, 12:46:49 PM
If that Hardline song is a confirmed Sapfest, I'll pass.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on October 04, 2016, 04:30:12 PM
If that Hardline song is a confirmed Sapfest, I'll pass.

It is, but to be fair it's a good vocal.
I've liked some of the songs I've heard so far. Some del Vecchio cookie cutter stuff though. But that voice -  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on October 04, 2016, 04:31:49 PM
I will say that Fire and Ice is a really underrated Yngwie record IMO.

I did like some tracks on that but it was also a bit of a Skipathon.   I haven't played it in years but what I do recall (at time of release) was that I was playing the title track and Final Curtain quite a bit.  And that I thought the lead single (Teaser) was a bit limp wristed.   :)

Having said all that it's a fucking masterpiece compared to some of his recent stuff .

It was a bit of a letdown after Odyssey and Eclipse. Still, a million times better than his last decade and a half.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on October 05, 2016, 05:42:38 AM
If that Hardline song is a confirmed Sapfest, I'll pass.

It is, but to be fair it's a good vocal.
I've liked some of the songs I've heard so far. Some del Vecchio cookie cutter stuff though. But that voice -  :hefdaddy

I'm still really interested in giving it a listen too, just because of his amazing vocals.  Between this and ARP, Johnny's voice seems to be quite wasted these days IMO.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on October 05, 2016, 02:11:10 PM
Just listened to the new Tyketto. I didn't like the first single so wasn't expecting much but this listen was ok. Hated the third song but the rest was a pleasant listen. Some nice guitar. One track lifted the riff to to Yngwie's Now Is The Time and I spotted a couple of Queen licks, but better than the recent Frontiers stuff. Can't say I'm desperate to hear it again but it was ok.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on October 05, 2016, 04:09:43 PM
Just listened to the new Tyketto. I didn't like the first single so wasn't expecting much but this listen was ok. Hated the third song but the rest was a pleasant listen. Some nice guitar. One track lifted the riff to to Yngwie's Now Is The Time and I spotted a couple of Queen licks, but better than the recent Frontiers stuff. Can't say I'm desperate to hear it again but it was ok.

yeah............not great but better than expected and some of the best songs right at the end.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 05, 2016, 11:35:06 PM
Been eager to check out this one since hearing the first single, which I've listened to constantly since, one of the best songs Frontiers has put out in a long time imo. As is always the case with Frontiers albums though, the lead single is by far my favourite song on the album.
The first two singles (Reach, I Need it Now), and Tearing Down the Sky would be my early favourites. There are some good slightly heavier songs (relatively speaking) towards the end too, along with some of the wimpiest ballads too unfortunately.

Overall, so far I agree it was an ok listen, better than most recent Frontiers stuff, although the songwriting hasn't blown me away for the most part. Some songs feel like they have too many mood changes (Big Money would be awesome if they stuck to the chorus mood throughout), and the melodies could be stronger, but there's some great guitar work. Kick Like a Mule, Tearing Down the Sky, and The Fastest Man Alive rip it up with those solos. Also, the production is the best I've heard from Frontiers in.... I can't think of any off the top of my head that are close to as good.

Gonna give it a few more listens, but it may be another case of a great single hyping me up on an average album.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2016, 05:34:51 AM
Wasn't even gonna bother cause I hated what I had heard, but might have to give it a chance if there is some mean solos.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 06, 2016, 05:45:34 AM
Eh, you won't like it.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2016, 05:50:19 AM
Eh, you won't like it.

 :lol  I was waiting for that.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 06, 2016, 05:53:45 AM
I didn't want to break script. :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on October 06, 2016, 06:21:57 AM
That first single was one of the worst things I've heard in a long time.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 06, 2016, 06:26:27 AM
That first single was one of the worst things I've heard in a long time.

You better be careful. You're establishing a nasty pattern of being wrong lately. :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on October 06, 2016, 06:27:56 AM
Lately? :lol

This has been going on for a while!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on October 07, 2016, 05:28:26 AM
That first single was one of the worst things I've heard in a long time.

I'm with Tim on this one.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 07, 2016, 05:42:39 AM
Given your taste in music, I'd be concerned if you liked it.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on October 07, 2016, 05:44:01 AM
Given your taste in music, I'd be concerned if you liked it.

Hmmm...another challenge.  ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on October 08, 2016, 01:04:38 PM
Given your taste in music, I'd be concerned if you liked it.

Hmmm...another challenge.  ;D

Yeah, you won't like it  :biggrin:
Unless you're mellowing in your old age and going a bit "country"...
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 08, 2016, 02:16:42 PM
Kade will never listen to country music. Never!!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2016, 04:54:30 AM
Kade will never listen to country music. Never!!

Nothing more true has ever been stated on this forum.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2016, 04:56:13 AM
Isn't listening to country music a bannable offense here?
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2016, 04:57:43 AM
Isn't listening to country music a bannable offense here?

If it isn't it fucking should be.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on October 09, 2016, 04:58:30 AM
Well no Bon Jovi after New Jersey then  ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2016, 05:01:15 AM
Well no Bon Jovi after New Jersey then  ;D

You can't tell me what to do. It's my life! :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on October 09, 2016, 05:01:52 AM
Have a nice day Blob.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 09, 2016, 05:02:57 AM
I'd make another joke, but between those two posts, that's my knowledge of post-2000 Bon Jovi exhausted. :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on October 09, 2016, 07:17:46 AM
I'd make another joke, but between those two posts, that's my knowledge of post-2000 Bon Jovi exhausted. :lol

 :rollin

So true!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on October 10, 2016, 05:26:47 AM
I always thought Jovi ripped off The Sabbath Stones for It's My Life, but I think that may be giving him too much credit.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on October 24, 2016, 05:47:26 AM
I gave the latest Hartmann album a "fucking awful" rating , so I'll leave one in this thread too.  ;D

it may not be on many peoples radar but the C.T.P album (Christian Tolle Project) has been billed as some sort of all-star project as it features David Reece, Michael Voss, Steve Lukather, Doug Aldrich etc...

But as with many of these multi-guest projects it massively under delivers.  Don't bother.......

Would love to know how a guy who plays like I did after a couple of years of lessons pulls all these guests too :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2016, 05:50:15 AM
Brent, have you had a listen to the Hardline or Eden's Curse yet?  From what I've heard, both seem pretty shithouse.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on October 24, 2016, 05:53:12 AM
Brent, have you had a listen to the Hardline or Eden's Curse yet?  From what I've heard, both seem pretty shithouse.

Will check out the Hardline tonight and let you know.

Haven't got the Eden's Curse but yeah................the two tracks I have heard were shite and (if memory serves) the video was even worse :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on October 24, 2016, 07:03:29 AM
The Hardline ...............I went in with an open mind as , even though the tracks I had heard were not encouraging , it has been getting strong reviews.   

It's like we are on a little remote island here where the same unimaginative tripe will not be tolerated but the rest of the world is prepared to give high marks to stuff that's been heard a million times before.

Unfortunately , despite this album being described as a "return to form" , I just don't get it.   My favourite track on the album is an 8/10 and , if I'm honest , it's what I would expect from a 2nd tier Sunstorm song.

There's the same old chug , chug in the heavier songs and the same arpeggiated clean chords when it's softer.    Josh Ramos does lift a number of the songs with a nice solo and Gioeli sounds good as usual but the songs are , almost without exception, throwaway stuff devoid of imagination.    That sappy ballad is one of the better songs for me , purely because it feels like they really tried (and failed :lol  )

70% from me and that's probably generous.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on October 24, 2016, 11:54:42 AM
The Hardline ...............I went in with an open mind as , even though the tracks I had heard were not encouraging , it has been getting strong reviews.   

It's like we are on a little remote island here where the same unimaginative tripe will not be tolerated but the rest of the world is prepared to give high marks to stuff that's been heard a million times before.

Unfortunately , despite this album being described as a "return to form" , I just don't get it.   My favourite track on the album is an 8/10 and , if I'm honest , it's what I would expect from a 2nd tier Sunstorm song.

There's the same old chug , chug in the heavier songs and the same arpeggiated clean chords when it's softer.    Josh Ramos does lift a number of the songs with a nice solo and Gioeli sounds good as usual but the songs are , almost without exception, throwaway stuff devoid of imagination.    That sappy ballad is one of the better songs for me , purely because it feels like they really tried (and failed :lol  )

70% from me and that's probably generous.

I've played the Hardline once and thought it was ok. Pretty much the same opinion as Brent but maybe I was more in the mood for it at the time than Brent, and I haven't been inflicting much frontiers shite on myself either. I liked it for what it was but haven't been back to it.
The new Kansas album pisses all over it.

Can't say I'm the slightest bit interested in the Edens Curse.. I've never really liked anything of theirs and I'd take this Hardline album over any of their albums. The two songs I have heard were shit.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2016, 07:16:00 PM
Pretty much what I was expecting with the Hradline, unfortunately.  Will certainly still give it a listen though.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2016, 04:47:46 AM
Just had a listen to the new Hardline and it's an absolute snoozefest.  Generic, uninspired, stale and as uninteresting as you can get.  The songs are just crap IMO.  Ramos tries to save it and Johnny of course sounds good but what is on offer here is awful IMO.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 01, 2016, 04:56:34 AM
Just had a listen to the new Hardline and it's an absolute snoozefest.  Generic, uninspired, stale and as uninteresting as you can get.  The songs are just crap IMO.  Ramos tries to save it and Johnny of course sounds good but what is on offer here is awful IMO.

Glad I'm not the only one - getting consistently strong reviews around the traps.  But then I seem to be like that with most new releases at the moment - and they're all getting rave reviews.

I dunno if I have become more picky or these reviewers just need something positive to talk about to generate traffic.  Possibly both.

O/T: seems you're also one of the few to share my views on the Testament .  Smart bloke you are :D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2016, 05:19:07 AM
Just had a listen to the new Hardline and it's an absolute snoozefest.  Generic, uninspired, stale and as uninteresting as you can get.  The songs are just crap IMO.  Ramos tries to save it and Johnny of course sounds good but what is on offer here is awful IMO.

Glad I'm not the only one - getting consistently strong reviews around the traps.  But then I seem to be like that with most new releases at the moment - and they're all getting rave reviews.

I dunno if I have become more picky or these reviewers just need something positive to talk about to generate traffic.  Possibly both.

O/T: seems you're also one of the few to share my views on the Testament .  Smart bloke you are :D

Forgot about your comments just above but yeah, pretty scary how similar our thoughts are.  I'd give it less than 70% myself I think, I have no reason to listen to it again.  The production wasn't that great either and don't know where the 'return to form' comment would stem from, that's just a load of bullshit.

Yeah, the Testament is just that, a Testament album, but I will say it is growing on me quite a bit, but some of the reviews are just way over the top.  Blabbermouth gave it a 9.5 and said it's an 'instant classic.'  :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 01, 2016, 05:22:15 AM
Every Hardline album is going to be a return to form in the vein of Double Eclipse.......................just like every new Bon Jovi album is going to rock  ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2016, 05:26:32 AM
Every Hardline album is going to be a return to form in the vein of Double Eclipse.......................just like every new Bon Jovi album is going to rock  ;D

Even Danger Zone is a masterpiece compared to this.  At least had some good songs.

Gonna save Eden's Curse for tomorrow night.  :\
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 01, 2016, 05:28:32 AM
Good luck  :corn
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2016, 05:37:32 AM
Thanks Brent, I think I'll need it. :mehlin
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2016, 05:48:15 AM
 :corn :corn :corn
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on November 03, 2016, 07:59:35 AM
:corn :corn :corn

He's nodded off by the looks of it. Can't say I'm surprised.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2016, 08:09:59 AM
Me neither :lol     if you wake up Kade the last track (Jericho) is quite good  :)
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on November 03, 2016, 11:58:15 AM
Talking of which, have you heard the new Bon Jovi yet? I haven't but the one review I've read says it's a snooze fest. Can't say I expect anything else.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 03, 2016, 03:55:52 PM
Talking of which, have you heard the new Bon Jovi yet? I haven't but the one review I've read says it's a snooze fest. Can't say I expect anything else.

I have tried to bring myself to listen to it , but so far I have not succeeded.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 03, 2016, 04:34:59 PM
I have zero interest in a new Bon Jovi track
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 04, 2016, 01:39:26 AM
I have zero interest in a new Bon Jovi track
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2016, 05:33:52 AM
Me neither :lol     if you wake up Kade the last track (Jericho) is quite good  :)

This Eden's Curse, I would actually call it shit.  Such a shame, I loved Symphony of Sin, it is such a good melodic hard rock album.  I'm up to like the fourth last track so will hold out until the end, but dear oh dear, what the fuck went wrong.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2016, 05:34:25 AM
I have zero interest in Bon Jovi
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2016, 05:50:49 AM
Meh, even Jericho was ordinary.  What a fucking disappointment.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lepprador on November 05, 2016, 10:15:42 AM
Bon Jovi....yeah, they're he's easy not to rate. It won't help my standing here, but I have to admit, I like the new album.
You hear your 7xPower Avengers stuff and Tool and Korn derivates and I'm rocking out to Bon Jovi.

I loved the the first 5 albums. These Days was the turning point. Half good, half shit. Everything after bored me to tears with the exception of some few songs.

It's My Life made them stay relevant, but the devil took their souls in exchange. Think about it. How many of the multi-platinum hair bands did have a hit as big since ? Coincidence ? You judge.

My best friend plays in a Bon Jovi cover band and I always was like: "Oh man, if you do have to do covers, join a Dream Theater or Def Leppard cover band.", but I had to concede, they were doing their stuff really good and they won some local awards for best cover and newcomer band. He was working on his keyboard parts and I had to listen to Bon Jovi songs everytime I paid him a visit. I was almost never in the mood for it, but he wanted me to tell him if it stays true enough to the original. So believe me I couldn't bring myself to listen to the last 4 or 5 albums. I did try, but after 3 songs in, I wanted to kill myself to end the boredom.   

Anyway, I don't know why, but I'm really enjoying This House. Perhaps because of expectations that couldn't be any lower. Often band splits bring out good things, when someone has the feeling to have to prove something and Bon Jovi had to prove that they can make a good album without Sambora.
I think Born Again Tomorrow and We Don't Run are two fist-raising-inducing BJ tracks. 

Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 07, 2016, 07:13:06 AM
Well the new Mecca is a letdown.   I roll my eyes at most of the hype around new melodic rock albums these days , but I was inclined to believe it with this one given the people involved in the album and the glowing praise.

I'd be interested in others opinions.  For me it tries very hard to be deep and majestic but to me it's just competent and not much more.   Some nice singing and playing at times but the magical songs I was told to expect just aren't there IMHO.

I would still give it a score around 75-80% but that's nowhere near the AOTY classic I was anticipating.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 07, 2016, 07:18:51 AM
Never heard of them, but I checked out a few songs I found on Youtube, and eh. It sounds fine and all, but it doesn't really jump out from the rest.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 07, 2016, 07:19:24 AM
Onto the new Roth/Brock album now which I expect to be typical Frontiers fare.   :-\

Every time I see that name I think of Vikings.....................Ragnar Rothbrock :lol

first track rocks a bit and already got more enjoyment from it than the Mecca , so that's something,.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 07, 2016, 07:23:57 AM
Onto the new Roth/Brock album now which I expect to be typical Frontiers fare.   :-\

I grabbed that one the other day and have given it one listen so far. It's not bad, the production is a bit better than Frontiers average, but nothing jumped out. I doubt that will change on second listen. My favourite I remember from the new album is the one that sounds like my favourite from Terry Brock's solo album. :lol
Either there weren't quite as many ballads on the Roth/Brock one, or they were stacked towards the end. Can't remember which. Probably the latter.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 07, 2016, 08:26:19 AM
Pretty much as expected - a couple of tracks that rose to the top but the rest was very predictable.

I think there is now enough statistical significance in my Frontiers ratings that I can make an announcement - every future Frontiers release is hereby rated 75-80% .
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 07, 2016, 08:28:03 AM
:lol You're being too generous if anything.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on November 07, 2016, 11:03:27 AM
Pretty much as expected - a couple of tracks that rose to the top but the rest was very predictable.

I think there is now enough statistical significance in my Frontiers ratings that I can make an announcement - every future Frontiers release is hereby rated 75-80% .

The YouTube tracks I heard bored the shit out of me. I was hoping for something decent too, given the quality of the duo.

Not got anything by Mecca though I'm aware that they existed. Always got the impression they would be too polished for me. Too Journey. Too keyboardy.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 07, 2016, 09:23:27 PM
Not got anything by Mecca though I'm aware that they existed. Always got the impression they would be too polished for me. Too Journey. Too keyboardy.

Yeah, pretty standard modern melodic rock stuff.
But there's no such thing as too Journey! :getoffmylawn: This whole thread is about music that wishes it could be more Journey. :lol :P
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2016, 04:53:09 AM
I haven't heard Mecca's first album but I have the second one and while it's a little light, I think there's some nice stuff on it. Nice atmosphere and some decent song writing.  I wasn't going to bother with the new one, but I will have a listen I think.

The Roth/Brock tunes I heard on youtube bored me also, which is a shame cause Roth is an excellent guitarist.  I might have a listen to it anyway.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 08, 2016, 04:58:13 AM
The Roth/Brock tunes I heard on youtube bored me also, which is a shame cause Roth is an excellent guitarist.  I might have a listen to it anyway.

The songs on Youtube are fairly representative, so if you don't like those, I doubt anything on the album will change your mind. I liked a couple of the songs I heard before the album came out, but probably nothing that will keep me coming back to it.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2016, 05:01:06 AM
I'll take a listen, I do like Brock's voice too.  Should have just called themselves Giant again and got Dan Huff to come in and write some songs for them.  That last Giant album with these two was alright.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 08, 2016, 05:04:36 AM
I haven't properly heard any Giant (checked them out at some point, but can't remember). I like Brock's voice too, and I like the style of this project, but the songwriting was the big letdown for me.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 08, 2016, 05:08:58 AM
Gawd Blob - get Last of the Runaways and Time To Burn pronto.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 08, 2016, 05:10:57 AM
Yeah, Last Of The Runaways and Time To Burn are stellar rock records. Lots of cool songs and stellar guitar work.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 08, 2016, 05:12:19 AM
Gawd Blob - get Last of the Runaways and Time To Burn pronto.

Just went to check them out on Spotify only to find I already have them saved to my collection on there. :lol This is what happens when I don't download it straight away, I tend to forget about it. But Time to Burn definitely sounds like something I'll enjoy. Gonna download it and give it a proper listen. Last of the Runaways too.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lepprador on November 08, 2016, 07:10:52 AM
Time To Burn is an amazing album (I like it much more than LOTR), but Giant III has also stellar moments and it's kind of overlooked and forgotten. It's also the last Giant album with Dan Huff on full duty.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 08, 2016, 07:32:46 AM
Time To Burn is an amazing album (I like it much more than LOTR), but Giant III has also stellar moments and it's kind of overlooked and forgotten. It's also the last Giant album with Dan Huff on full duty.

III is a good album yeah - mostly just tidied up leftovers , which just shows how good they were.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 08, 2016, 08:07:14 AM
I never got around to listen to III, and then I heard it was mostly leftovers so I wasn't that keen on getting it. If you say it's worth it I might give it a try.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 08, 2016, 09:48:25 AM
I just subjected myself to the super duper deluxe 17 song Bon Jovi album.   Not as shit as I thought it would be.  65%
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on November 08, 2016, 01:17:38 PM
Time To Burn is an amazing album (I like it much more than LOTR), but Giant III has also stellar moments and it's kind of overlooked and forgotten. It's also the last Giant album with Dan Huff on full duty.

III is a good album yeah - mostly just tidied up leftovers , which just shows how good they were.

It's LotR, III then TTB for me. The non Dan Huff album doesn't exist in my world.

I love the ballad I Can't Let Go on III. Chad hated it in his roulette :biggrin:

I gave the Bon Jovi a go too. Yeah, not terrible and I may play it when I need a softer album (don't tell Ben though Brent, he'll unleash the fuckin fury on me  :biggrin:). I don't have that many soft, bland albums and sometimes you need an album like that
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on November 08, 2016, 01:23:45 PM
Just realised LOTR wasn't in my top 50. Big mistake there. Should have been, and pretty high too.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2016, 04:45:59 AM
I just subjected myself to the super duper deluxe 17 song Bon Jovi album.   Not as shit as I thought it would be.  65%

17 songs, good lord!


Promised Land was the first I actually heard of Giant, so the whole Huff not being involved wasn't a big deal for me in regards to that album.  But going back and discovering the band's discography after that, I can see why the new incarnation shouldn't really be called Giant at all.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 09, 2016, 05:14:37 AM
Just realised LOTR wasn't in my top 50. Big mistake there. Should have been, and pretty high too.

Was #29 in mine and could've been higher.

We seem to be the odd ones out with LOTR but to me (although I like the heavier edge of Time To Burn)  it just has that extra touch of class in the songwriting.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 09, 2016, 05:38:38 AM
Time To Burn is really good but Last Of The Runaways is on another level. Everything on there is just a little bit better.

Saw them live on that tour in 89/90 in a small club and they were killer.

Makes me wonder what Dan Huff is doing these days.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lepprador on November 09, 2016, 11:15:28 AM
I believe he's producing Country Rock in Nashville. Stuff like Reba McEntire.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2016, 05:06:00 AM
I personally much prefer LOTR.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2016, 05:06:17 AM
New Mecca is a snoozefest.  Next!!!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 10, 2016, 05:18:34 AM
Not sayin' much but I actually enjoyed the Arnel Pineda solo album more than the Mecca and it's mostly ballads and half of them in Filipino  ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 10, 2016, 05:24:55 AM
Not sayin' much but I actually enjoyed the Arnel Pineda solo album more than the Mecca and it's mostly ballads and half of them in Filipino  ;D

First I've heard of it. Checked out some samples, and besides the aforementioned language barrier, it sounded pretty decent. Gonna grab a copy of that and check it out.
Been listening to Time to Burn all day too. Enjoying it very much, so at least this thread has delivered something good. :hat
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 10, 2016, 05:30:16 AM
I wish there were a few more tracks like the last (Say Goodbye)............nice melodic rocker.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 10, 2016, 05:33:34 AM
I like the sound of it from the samples.
I don't know why Journey haven't recorded another album yet. Been 5 years now, and I don't remember hearing anything about them starting on another album. Seems to have been plenty of side projects in the meantime though.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 10, 2016, 05:39:54 AM
I like the sound of it from the samples.


A few years back I wouldn't have bothered with it at all , but these days I'm all over anything that doesn't sound like everything else :lol  My appreciation for variety and a few original ideas has gone through the roof.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 10, 2016, 05:41:46 AM
I like the sound of it from the samples.


A few years back I wouldn't have bothered with it at all , but these days I'm all over anything that doesn't sound like everything else :lol  My appreciation for variety and a few original ideas has gone through the roof.

Frontiers makes you appreciate those tiny differences, doesn't it? :lol I guess when it's 99% the same, you gotta latch onto the 1%. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on November 10, 2016, 11:05:40 AM
I've had a listen to the Roth Brock (or is the other way around?  :biggrin:) I actually liked it. Far better than the Bon Jovi and as I said earlier, I didn't enjoy the tracks I'd heard on YouTube.
Nothing new, pretty similar paced through but I liked the songs.

Maybe my exile from Frontiers has helped.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 10, 2016, 01:08:34 PM
Gotta have a listen to that Brock/Roth one then.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 10, 2016, 02:46:20 PM
I actually liked it. Far better than the Bon Jovi

I just subjected myself to the super duper deluxe 17 song Bon Jovi album.   Not as shit as I thought it would be.  65%


(https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/49/49e4ff68f04d4f9f4247f9c7e2b0c6d5baa89222914702c01b6256fa821d8489.jpg)   :)

Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2016, 04:48:32 AM
New Pride of Lions;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UzuEQiABK8

which is shit.  I don't know why Jim thinks he should sing when he has Toby.  This though is pretty rubbish.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 30, 2016, 04:50:13 AM
I heard it yesterday and considered posting it just to bump the thread for us all to bond over how weak it was. :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2016, 04:52:37 AM
I heard it yesterday and considered posting it just to bump the thread for us all to bond over how weak it was. :lol

Uh.......that's, er, pretty much my thinking Blob.  :corn

Seriously though, WTF is this?
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2016, 04:52:58 AM
I don't mind Jim's voice and he's one of the great songwriters but this just sounds stale and the chorus is lametastic.

There's some great material on the PoL discs but at this point they really need to be producing songs that aren't just the same old same old.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Bolsters on November 30, 2016, 05:08:54 AM
I listened to the song and thought it was incredibly bland. :hug:
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 30, 2016, 06:00:08 AM
I made it to the 26 second mark
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on November 30, 2016, 06:02:59 AM
Yeah, I got about 30 seconds in and wondered what had happened to Toby's voice  :lol
Sounded shit to me. Hope it's not the best they can do.
Will be a try before considering buying after that
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2016, 06:58:41 PM
I don't mind Jim's voice and he's one of the great songwriters but this just sounds stale and the chorus is lametastic.

There's some great material on the PoL discs but at this point they really need to be producing songs that aren't just the same old same old.

The first album is great.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on December 05, 2016, 10:14:18 PM
Just listened to the new one from White Widdow (Aussie band).  They have produced some pretty good melodic rock in the past but the new one is much wimpier than usual and very "by the numbers" - to the point of being pretty awful.  Makes Work of Art sound like Napalm Death.   Rating : don't bother.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on December 06, 2016, 05:10:29 AM
That's a shame. They did have a knack for writing some catchy stuff.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on December 08, 2016, 05:38:52 AM
I'm on a roll at the moment with glowing melodic rock reviews  :hat    So here's another.   Just catching up on a lot of stuff that I missed earlier in the year and another one that the melrock community were having kittens over was a band called Amboaje.

Finished listening to it a couple of hours ago and now that I've woken up I can tell you it's a snoozefest.  :)    The way things are tracking there ain't going to be much melodic hard rock in the Best of 2016 podcast.   The metal has been so much stronger.

Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 08, 2016, 05:47:05 AM
Haven't heard of that one either. There's nothing in the melodic rock genre that's been a keeper for me this year. Every other year this decade has managed at least something I still enjoy listening to. There have been some good songs here and there, but no really solid albums.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on December 08, 2016, 05:59:33 AM
Never heard of them. I don't go to melodicrock.com anymore.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on December 08, 2016, 06:02:28 AM
Never heard of them. I don't go to melodicrock.com anymore.

I rarely do either now, which is a shame because I've known (and liked) Andrew for longer than the site has existed = >20 years.   Lots of fanboys for him who still insist the site is the best thing since sliced bread, but in reality it's now just a glorified promo site for his record label.   Most of those releases are pretty ordinary too.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 08, 2016, 06:25:22 AM
The occasional newsbit on mr.com is nice but on the whole this site isn't for me anymore.

Some time ago Andrew talked about changing the site up to make it more interesting and less promo but nothing has happened and probably never will.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on December 08, 2016, 10:21:47 AM
Never heard of them. I don't go to melodicrock.com anymore.

I rarely do either now, which is a shame because I've known (and liked) Andrew for longer than the site has existed = >20 years.   Lots of fanboys for him who still insist the site is the best thing since sliced bread, but in reality it's now just a glorified promo site for his record label.   Most of those releases are pretty ordinary too.

Ah, there's that Aussie use of ordinary to mean shite. Whenever you use it I hear Shane Wayne's voice  :)
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Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2016, 03:01:48 PM
Not much from me in the melodic rock side of things for 2016 either.  I think the Sunstorm would be the highlight, but that borders on the verge of hard rock anyway.  Vega was solid but I'm a fan and the Ted Poley was surprisingly good too.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on December 08, 2016, 07:25:55 PM
   The way things are tracking there ain't going to be much melodic hard rock in the Best of 2016 podcast.   
Quote

...and it was so prevalent for the 1988 podcast! ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on December 08, 2016, 07:40:57 PM
I believe that in some tiny nation somewhere that the first four Winger albums were re-released as remasters in 2016 - there's your top four   :metal
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 09, 2016, 01:23:43 AM
I believe that in some tiny nation somewhere that the first four Winger albums were re-released as remasters in 2016 - there's your top four   :metal

 ;D

And this just in, especially for Tim: Kip Winger got a grammy nomination  :metal

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/grammys/7604039/kip-winger-classical-grammy-nomination-2016
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lepprador on December 09, 2016, 03:28:27 AM
Wow, a grammy nomination, but deserved for a fantastic album.
His last solo work (From the Moon to the Sun / 2008) indicated something like that.
 
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2016, 04:31:44 AM
Didn't even know he did an album like that this year.  Good on him, well deserved, a brilliant and IMO underrated musician.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on December 14, 2016, 02:14:59 AM
New project from Ted Poles from Danger Danger and Steve Brown from Trixter. Pretty usual Frontiers fare but I like the song and have a soft spot for Poley's voice for this stuff.

https://radi.al/TokyoMotorFist

Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2016, 04:31:00 AM
New project from Ted Poles from Danger Danger and Steve Brown from Trixter. Pretty usual Frontiers fare but I like the song and have a soft spot for Poley's voice for this stuff.

https://radi.al/TokyoMotorFist

That was alright.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2016, 04:39:51 AM
New Unruly Child

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaPGesAGjVQ

New Pride of Lions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3gEIRD2uYQ

Pretty fucking crap on both counts.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on December 15, 2016, 06:20:30 AM
New project from Ted Poles from Danger Danger and Steve Brown from Trixter. Pretty usual Frontiers fare but I like the song and have a soft spot for Poley's voice for this stuff.

https://radi.al/TokyoMotorFist

That was alright.

Dumbass band name but I suppose at least it isn't Silent Signal or something :lol

I listened on crappy speakers , but even so I get the feeling it's an awful production.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 15, 2016, 06:41:35 AM
New Unruly Child

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaPGesAGjVQ

New Pride of Lions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3gEIRD2uYQ

Pretty fucking crap on both counts.

Yup yup.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on December 15, 2016, 07:01:19 AM
I liked the PoL better than the first track we heard and Toby sounds great , as does the production, but yeah...........same old , same old.    The Unruly Child (in the context of a wimpy single) isn't too bad IMO - the sound isn't too far removed from their classic debut so I won't write the new album off based on that.   I'm not sure at Mark/Marcie's age that it's going to rock much but that voice is still there which is a surprise in itself :lol

I think I'd take both of these tracks over the Place Vendome  :-\
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on December 15, 2016, 10:15:32 AM
I agree with all the above
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2016, 01:35:33 PM
I listened to that Place Vendome song again, and it's really quite bad.  Jani L wrote it and what he did with the last Cain's Offering and Strato was good so not sure what's going on here.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on December 15, 2016, 06:32:47 PM
I listened to that Place Vendome song one more time too, just to make sure I heard things right the first time.  I'll agree with Wolf, its really quite bad.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2016, 04:40:37 AM
New Lionville, which could be mistaken for Work of Art;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nafc04EeXsc

I like this a lot.  Nothing new, but nice sound and great vocals as usual.  Robert Sall must have written this though.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 16, 2016, 04:47:43 AM
I skipped right past that video the other day when it popped up, and just my luck it happens to be one of the better ones. I probably got it confused with that Pride of Lions shit. :lol
I agree with you, nothing particularly new, but definitely better than average, with good production and vocals. I'll check out the album.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 16, 2016, 04:48:08 AM
New Lionville, which could be mistaken for Work of Art;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nafc04EeXsc

I like this a lot.  Nothing new, but nice sound and great vocals as usual.  Robert Sall must have written this though.

Sounds like another variation on a Place Vendome riff :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 16, 2016, 04:49:31 AM
New Lionville, which could be mistaken for Work of Art;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nafc04EeXsc

I like this a lot.  Nothing new, but nice sound and great vocals as usual.  Robert Sall must have written this though.

Sounds like another variation on a Place Vendome riff :lol

I'm pretty sure it had been around for 20 years before they ever got to their variation on it. :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2016, 04:49:57 AM
New Lionville, which could be mistaken for Work of Art;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nafc04EeXsc

I like this a lot.  Nothing new, but nice sound and great vocals as usual.  Robert Sall must have written this though.

Sounds like another variation on a Place Vendome riff :lol

Except more original.  :lol

I skipped right past that video the other day when it popped up, and just my luck it happens to be one of the better ones. I probably got it confused with that Pride of Lions shit. :lol
I agree with you, nothing particularly new, but definitely better than average, with good production and vocals. I'll check out the album.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/98/2a/eb/982aebe2d39aaf5c291f64f526166066.jpg)
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Post by: bl5150 on December 16, 2016, 04:53:20 AM
To be fair it's a good effort for anyone from Work of Art to sound like anything but the one Work of Art song  ;D

Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 16, 2016, 04:59:52 AM
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/BlobVanDam/venndiagram.jpg~original)
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Big Hath on December 16, 2016, 09:37:42 PM
looks like a couple of boobs to me


I guess that makes Witchcraft the cleavage
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on December 18, 2016, 04:15:58 AM
 :metal

Love that diagram.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on January 11, 2017, 04:37:51 AM
Another song from that new Poley project;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3pyYMK1SnM

Besides the generic verse riff that has been used a zillion times, this is actually some pretty cool melodic rock.  I'll definitely check this album out for sure.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on January 11, 2017, 05:23:01 AM
Not sure about it........generic as hell (aside from the band name which I suppose is different :lol ) and , although it's hard to tell from YT , the production sounds a mess.  Will certainly check it out due to the guys involved but I have a feeling it'll be a one spin wonder for me.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on January 11, 2017, 05:24:08 AM
New Place Vendome too. I like this one though still not loving the Elvis impersonation in the lower ranges. Here it's only a couple of lines.

https://youtu.be/X6HEA3_uU4w
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 11, 2017, 05:27:28 AM
Tokyo Motor Fist - Listenable, not an album I'm inclined to check out though.

Place Vendom - Pretty cool until those awful vocals come in.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on January 11, 2017, 05:28:55 AM
New Place Vendome too. I like this one though still not loving the Elvis impersonation in the lower ranges. Here it's only a couple of lines.

https://youtu.be/X6HEA3_uU4w

A few less Oreos in his gob this time but he still sounds weird at the start.  The song develops into something pretty decent - enough to keep me cautiously interested I suppose.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 11, 2017, 02:29:57 PM
I like that Place Vendome song better than the first single.
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Post by: TAC on January 11, 2017, 02:33:21 PM
The song develops into something pretty decent - enough to keep me cautiously interested I suppose.

I agree.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2017, 04:23:29 AM
Meh, from a single listen, I didn't dig that Place Vendome song much at all really.  Classy Gus G solo though.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 12, 2017, 09:26:15 PM
Well the new Gotthard is a big snooze - the importance of Steve Lee (RIP) is getting more obvious with each new record.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 13, 2017, 03:33:00 AM
Didn't expect anything else tbh.

New House of Lords. Pretty dull and James sounds like he's struggling a bit.

https://youtu.be/cirgDpXk_K0

Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2017, 04:25:12 AM
Pretty standard affair from HOL, but not too bad.  I'll check out the album, the last one was pretty damn good IMO.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 13, 2017, 04:36:00 AM
Sounds fine enough, but I don't think I'd be interested enough to hear the album.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 13, 2017, 04:39:35 AM
And new Eclipse which no doubt everyone down at mr.com has already wet (or W.E.T.) themselves over  :P

https://play.spotify.com/album/0oiFEilSuWfUMvD2lQyEkU

Apart from a passable riff , it's really just throwaway stuff IMHO.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 13, 2017, 05:31:28 AM
And new Eclipse which no doubt everyone down at mr.com has already wet (or W.E.T.) themselves over  :P

https://play.spotify.com/album/0oiFEilSuWfUMvD2lQyEkU

Apart from a passable riff , it's really just throwaway stuff IMHO.

Yeah, nice riff and good energy. Having been suffering from vertigo for the last few months I can adopt this as my anthem  :biggrin:
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Post by: bl5150 on January 13, 2017, 06:45:59 AM
Yeah - the House of Lords is decent and at least doesn't sound totally derivative like the Eclipse.

But boy..............three of the biggest names in the biz and they all sound very tired.

House of Lords gets the most interest from me but that's not saying much.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 13, 2017, 10:20:54 AM
Didn't mind the Eclipse song at all, pretty solid. I've never got into their music in the past, I always found it listenable but a little sterile and indistinct. Not sure this new song changes my mind much, but it sounds a tiny bit more energetic and raw than what I recall of their previous stuff. I like the production and vocals at least, so I might check it out anyway and see.

And it will absolutely get at least 98% from mr.com :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2017, 02:54:45 PM
I'm a bit of an Eclipse fanboy myself so about to listen to this track for the first time.  Lets see if my opinions and overall thoughts on this genre have taken a turn like I think they have.
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Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2017, 03:01:21 PM
Same formula, same thing yet again.  It's one of those songs that would be a catchy grower I reckon, but like most of their stuff really.  I don't like the more aggressive vocals from Martensson in parts either, it just sounds flat and bad.  Not holding out for the album but will listen.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 13, 2017, 08:29:47 PM
I thought that House of Lords was pretty decent, but wouldn't check out the album.  I'll give HOF some credit, they've become consistent with their releases after disappearing for many years.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 16, 2017, 05:22:31 PM
For you Fair Warning fans I am now most of the way through the new Tommy Heart solo album and it'szzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Calling it rock would be pushing it......pop rock maybe.

Don't bother unless you want an album full of songs that resemble the very softest of Fair Warning.   A couple of nice tracks but pretty awful really - and I love his voice.

68%
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Post by: TAC on January 16, 2017, 06:02:22 PM
Any album by a dude named Tommy Heart has to suck!
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 16, 2017, 06:39:18 PM
or blows!!
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Post by: TAC on January 16, 2017, 06:59:13 PM
 :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2017, 04:35:04 AM
Any album by a dude named Tommy Heart has to suck!

 :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on January 17, 2017, 06:48:33 AM
For you Fair Warning fans I am now most of the way through the new Tommy Heart solo album and it'szzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Calling it rock would be pushing it......pop rock maybe.

Don't bother unless you want an album full of songs that resemble the very softest of Fair Warning.   A couple of nice tracks but pretty awful really - and I love his voice.

68%

I did expect this tbh. Not sure why. But yeah, I like his voice too.
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Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2017, 03:32:26 PM
Pride of Lions;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpBnRZgVPHQ

This is so fucking bad.  It's worth watching just to see and hear how bad this is.  WTF happened to this band?
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 20, 2017, 09:13:30 PM
Pass. I wouldn't say it's utterly bad, so much as wimpy and generic as shit.
And I wish Frontiers didn't have two upcoming albums from bands with Lion in the name (and lions on the cover), because I keep forgetting which is the decent sounding one. :lol
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Post by: Bolsters on January 20, 2017, 09:15:44 PM
I thought I had a Pride of Lions album but it turns out I don't, it's Three Lions. :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 21, 2017, 05:36:23 AM
Pride of Lions;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpBnRZgVPHQ

This is so fucking bad.  It's worth watching just to see and hear how bad this is.  WTF happened to this band?

Why are we even talking about the song.  Let focus on the hammers on the girl in the video!
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Post by: Lowdz on January 21, 2017, 09:09:35 AM
Pride of Lions;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpBnRZgVPHQ

This is so fucking bad.  It's worth watching just to see and hear how bad this is.  WTF happened to this band?

Why are we even talking about the song.  Let focus on the hammers on the girl in the video!

Peterik is still insisting on singing. Why did he even bother getting Toby in when he clearly wants to be the star? He's putting me off liking it. Or maybe it's just shit?
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 21, 2017, 10:50:22 AM
I thought I had a Pride of Lions album but it turns out I don't, it's Three Lions. :lol

I'll stick to Lion and White Lion, thank you very much. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2017, 02:57:42 PM
Pride of Lions;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpBnRZgVPHQ

This is so fucking bad.  It's worth watching just to see and hear how bad this is.  WTF happened to this band?

Why are we even talking about the song.  Let focus on the hammers on the girl in the video!

Peterik is still insisting on singing. Why did he even bother getting Toby in when he clearly wants to be the star? He's putting me off liking it. Or maybe it's just shit?

No, it's just shit.  But on the other hand, you're right.  Peterik must be an egotistical dickhead to keep singing when he has Hitchcock there.
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Post by: TAC on January 21, 2017, 06:49:05 PM
Pride of Lions;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpBnRZgVPHQ

This is so fucking bad.  It's worth watching just to see and hear how bad this is.  WTF happened to this band?

Why are we even talking about the song.  Let focus on the hammers on the girl in the video!

Damn. No kidding. Much better with the sound off.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 21, 2017, 07:27:51 PM
Bloody hell  :rollin

Even Jim's guitars are WTF-worthy.  There's so much bad in there it's almost good  :biggrin:

I can't even insult them by saying that their music will appeal to the purple rinse brigade now , because Jim is already a member.
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Post by: TAC on January 21, 2017, 07:30:29 PM
With the sound off, it looks like a Peter Criss/Toby Keith duet.
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2017, 03:53:58 AM
Toby needs to do another solo album.  And at this rate and that song, a generic, recycled Martensson collection would be most welcome.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 26, 2017, 06:59:25 PM
Toby needs to do another solo album.  And at this rate and that song, a generic, recycled Martensson collection would be most welcome.

there is a new solo album on the way from Toby (it's done and with the label) but no indication as yet regarding who is playing on it or how heavy etc......   Hopefully in a similar vein to the first - one of the few Martensson projects I like and way better than Eclipse.


Another album I will be very interested in is Inglorious 2 which is due in May.   if they can just take the songwriting up a notch ..........no doubt I will be disappointed but give some excellent songs to Nathan and they could be amazing,.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 26, 2017, 09:35:50 PM
Another album I will be very interested in is Inglorious 2 which is due in May.   if they can just take the songwriting up a notch ..........no doubt I will be disappointed but give some excellent songs to Nathan and they could be amazing,.

They released a short promo the other day which had some new music in the background. Hard to judge the song itself with all of the talking over it, but the production sounded amazing, as expected with Kevin Shirley behind the desk, and the music sounded like the perfect style of hard rock. I also hope they evolve as songwriters and deliver some great songs, but I'll probably enjoy it regardless given that the band rocks. That's my most anticipated album at the moment.
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Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2017, 04:42:10 AM
Toby needs to do another solo album.  And at this rate and that song, a generic, recycled Martensson collection would be most welcome.

there is a new solo album on the way from Toby (it's done and with the label) but no indication as yet regarding who is playing on it or how heavy etc......   Hopefully in a similar vein to the first - one of the few Martensson projects I like and way better than Eclipse.

By far the best thing Martensson has done, and that's coming from an Eclipse fan.  That album is the reason I started this thread.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 27, 2017, 06:50:04 AM
Another album I will be very interested in is Inglorious 2 which is due in May.   if they can just take the songwriting up a notch ..........no doubt I will be disappointed but give some excellent songs to Nathan and they could be amazing,.

They released a short promo the other day which had some new music in the background. Hard to judge the song itself with all of the talking over it, but the production sounded amazing, as expected with Kevin Shirley behind the desk, and the music sounded like the perfect style of hard rock. I also hope they evolve as songwriters and deliver some great songs, but I'll probably enjoy it regardless given that the band rocks. That's my most anticipated album at the moment.

They could do with some stability in the lineup. They loose members regularly which won't help. First album had some good songs it just missed some magic dust.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2017, 07:14:21 AM
Seems quite typical for recent bands to not have stable lineups. Crazy Lixx has had the same problem. I guess the life of a modern rocker ain't what it used to be.
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Post by: Lepprador on January 27, 2017, 07:57:33 AM
(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/stephenpearcysmashcd.jpg)

Much better than expected. If the next (now in work) Ratt album is as good as this, I'm happy and I rate Warren DeMartini even higher than George Lynch. The new guy here, Erik Ferentinos doesn't have the fineness and surgical precision of Warren, but sure knows how to craft a punchy riff.
Don't let the first grunge song fool you. No bad song, but doesn't really fit to the rest of the material.
By the way: Mixed and mastered by Beau Hill (Prisoners In Paradise, Winger, first 4 Ratt albums...).
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Post by: Lowdz on January 27, 2017, 11:42:30 AM
The tracks released so far have been ok. Will give this a listen. Sounded like a RATT album without the unmistakable playing of WDM.
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Post by: TAC on January 27, 2017, 03:56:22 PM
Stephen Pearcy sounded like complete shit in 1984. I can't fathom why I would even check this out.

(no offence to those of you that have :))
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Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2017, 05:11:56 PM
Never got into Ratt at all really.  I did pick up the album they did quite a few years ago called Infestation I think it's called and that was pretty decent.
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Post by: Lepprador on January 28, 2017, 02:15:53 AM
Stephen Pearcy never had a strong voice, but he has an excellent feeling for vocal lines and phrasing. I always found he's a highly charismatic frontman. I've only seen Ratt once in 1986 (Monsters Of Rock) and it was short and sweet, but I can understand everybody not liking his very unique voice.

Sounded like a RATT album without the unmistakable playing of WDM.
Spot On. And that's quite an achievement. Better than every other Stephen Pearcy solo album.
I would think the Frontier label boss, said  something like: " Deliver me a Ratt sounding album and I'll pay for it."
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Post by: Lowdz on January 28, 2017, 02:47:52 AM
Never got into Ratt at all really.  I did pick up the album they did quite a few years ago called Infestation I think it's called and that was pretty decent.

For me, Out of the Cellar, Invasion of Your Privacy, Dancing Undercover and Detonator are all excellent it all depends on whether you can tolerate Pearcy's voice. I've never been a fan of it but it's not enough to put me off. Each of these  albums has a couple of filler tracks but so did Van Halen.

I really liked the s/t from a few years ago but most don't. Di Martini was a great player and I've always loved the guitar tones on their early albums.
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Post by: Lepprador on January 28, 2017, 05:18:25 AM
I thought the self-titled (I believe from 1999 ?) was a strong album, too and I can't understand the lukewarm reception it got and to my surprise Infestation was praised from almost every source. Not that it was bad, but I prefered the s/t.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 28, 2017, 11:08:48 AM
If you are a casual Ratt fan, the one album to get would be Ratt and Roll 81-91.  Its a solid best of.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 28, 2017, 01:47:54 PM
If you are a casual Ratt fan, the one album to get would be Ratt and Roll 81-91.  Its a solid best of.

Good call.
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Post by: TAC on January 28, 2017, 04:37:48 PM
Best of Ratt is an oxymoron.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 28, 2017, 05:06:02 PM
Best of Ratt is an oxymoron.

I was waiting for this one lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2017, 03:55:50 AM
If you are a casual Ratt fan, the one album to get would be Ratt and Roll 81-91.  Its a solid best of.

Just checked my cd log and I own this one along with Infestation, so I have no excuse not to check it out.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 30, 2017, 10:32:31 AM
I just had a listen to the Pearcy album and found it solid but very up and down in terms of quality.  It averages out at a 75% for me but dump the 3 or 4 worst tracks and it would be much higher.  Once again it's far too long at 13 tracks.   Some of the songs just don't suit his voice.  I can see what he was trying to do with the Zep influence - in parts it works and just as often it doesn't.

At least he's tried to mix something different in with the familiar but for me the more familiar stuff suits him better.  And the production is good (as mentioned) and it's not your standard Frontiers job.
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Post by: Lepprador on January 30, 2017, 11:06:28 AM
Yeah, I cut it down to 10 tracks and changed the running order and the the result was a much better album.
Nice to read that you liked it a bit.
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Post by: TAC on January 30, 2017, 11:47:10 AM
I cut it down to zero songs and I think it's spectacular!
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 30, 2017, 11:52:39 AM
 :lol
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Post by: Lepprador on January 30, 2017, 12:32:05 PM
 :lol

Oh boy...
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Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2017, 10:54:22 PM
I cut it down to zero songs and I think it's spectacular!

haha, harsh Tim.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2017, 01:39:12 PM
I had a listen to the Jack Russell's Great White album. Not sure what to make of it tbh but it's got fuck all to do with GW. I sort of enjoyed it but it's all over the place stylewise. Sort of like an early queen album. There's a funky song, a reggae style song, a queen style vaudeville song and all sorts in between. It doesn't really rock and it's not particularly blues-y.
A strange one.
Jack's voice is pretty good too. The guitarist rips a bit later on the album in a non cliche sort of way.

Have you heard it Brent?
I wouldn't say I recommend it but as I said, I did kind of enjoy it. Made it all the way through anyway  :biggrin:
Definitely not for everyone
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Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2017, 01:45:56 PM
Also started listening to the new Pride of Lions. All I can think when I hear a Peterik song is Jimi Jamison singing it. I can hear him in my head.
There's some ok stuff - cheesy and predictable but you know it's a Peterik tune. He's certainly got a style.
Not essential I would say.
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Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2017, 03:18:50 PM
Also started listening to the new Pride of Lions. All I can think when I hear a Peterik song is Jimi Jamison singing it. I can hear him in my head.
There's some ok stuff - cheesy and predictable but you know it's a Peterik tune. He's certainly got a style.
Not essential I would say.

I will have a listen but not expecting anything based on what I've heard.  This band for me have gone from good melodic rock/AOR to stuff which just reminds me of broadway and show tunes.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 01, 2017, 03:58:09 PM

Have you heard it Brent?
I wouldn't say I recommend it but as I said, I did kind of enjoy it. Made it all the way through anyway  :biggrin:
Definitely not for everyone

Not as yet - will do so shortly.  I may not have bothered but am curious based on the reviews which range from "weird" to "awesome".  Sounds like an interesting album and that's got to be better than "same old same old".
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Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2017, 04:33:14 AM
New Eclipse;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQqRR2r7444

Hmm....Martenssen trying hard to do something a little different here.  Reminds me heavily of HEAT.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 10, 2017, 01:37:15 PM
New Inglorious. part of me thinks it's boring but there's something ok about it. Singer needs better songs. Maybe get David Coverdale and Doug Aldrich to write the songs.

https://youtu.be/YDynJwc46L8
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 10, 2017, 08:20:04 PM
Sounds similar to the heavier songs from the first album that I didn't find as strong or interesting.
The band all sounds great though, and the production is killer, so hopefully the rest of the album delivers.
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 11, 2017, 09:54:31 PM
Was just listening to Demons Down by House of Lords.  This is my favorite album that I've heard from them and it one of my favorite melodic rock/AOR albums.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 11, 2017, 10:12:07 PM
Was just listening to Demons Down by House of Lords.  This is my favorite album that I've heard from them and it one of my favorite melodic rock/AOR albums.

Was No 67 in my DTF Top 50   ;D

The stuff back then had so much more thought and songwriting nouse.   
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 11, 2017, 10:17:26 PM
Plus the bonus of this album is that the poster of Demons Down is in a Seinfeld episode.  When Jerry and George visit the Bubble Boy, the House of Lords poster is in the background along with Ugly Kid Joe.

Moops!
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Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2017, 03:49:04 AM
Plus the bonus of this album is that the poster of Demons Down is in a Seinfeld episode.  When Jerry and George visit the Bubble Boy, the House of Lords poster is in the background along with Ugly Kid Joe.

Moops!

Shit Jason, you're right.  I never knew that haha.  Well done.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdhZINAUUAEJDCP.jpg)

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Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2017, 03:59:12 AM
Was just listening to Demons Down by House of Lords.  This is my favorite album that I've heard from them and it one of my favorite melodic rock/AOR albums.

Was No 67 in my DTF Top 50   ;D

The stuff back then had so much more thought and songwriting nouse.   

This.
Great album.their best. I still like The Power and The Myth. In fact, I'm going to play those two today. Thanks gents 😀🤘
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Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2017, 05:20:36 AM
I'm not sure that I ever even listened to The Power and The Myth.   I don't normally let reviews/word of mouth put me off totally - especially for one of my fave bands - but the feedback was so universally bad about it that I think I just passed .   
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Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2017, 05:23:33 AM
I'm not sure that I ever even listened to The Power and The Myth.   I don't normally let reviews put me off - especially for one of my fave bands - but everything was so universally bad about it that I think I just passed .

It's not really a HoL album, that's the problem with it. People from this site shouldn't have a problem with it. It's proggy with very little in the way of catchy choruses. Ken Mary rules on it.

Worth at least a few listens as it's certainly not an instant album. Better production that the recent albums too.

I guess it's their The Elder, Strange and Beautiful album. But don't let that put you off 😀 At least you'll be going in prepared.

I think the pink and fluffy brigade at melodicrock.com shit themselves tbh 😵
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Post by: TAC on February 12, 2017, 07:46:40 AM
I'm not sure that I ever even listened to The Power and The Myth.   I don't normally let reviews put me off - especially for one of my fave bands - but everything was so universally bad about it that I think I just passed .

It's not really a HoL album, that's the problem with it. People from this site shouldn't have a problem with it. It's proggy with very little in the way of catchy choruses. Ken Mary rules on it.
 

That actually sounds interesting. What is the year of release?
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 12, 2017, 01:24:24 PM
Power and the Myth came out in 2004

I never heard it, but I read that it was fairly modern sounding and not typical of a House of Lords album
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Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2017, 01:42:32 PM
I'm not sure that I ever even listened to The Power and The Myth.   I don't normally let reviews/word of mouth put me off totally - especially for one of my fave bands - but the feedback was so universally bad about it that I think I just passed .   

It's a pretty good album, never understood the reviews to be honest.  Just a different sort of album than usual.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 12, 2017, 02:46:58 PM
Power and the Myth came out in 2004

I never heard it, but I read that it was fairly modern sounding and not typical of a House of Lords album

I wouldn't say it has a modern sound at all. Harks back to the 70s if anything. Some Zeppelin in there at times, the less bluesy, Kashmir-ish sound.
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Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2017, 04:38:00 AM
New Lionville video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_oXxZ9H2ck

This is pretty smooth.  Actually has a classic 80's AOR feel to it.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 15, 2017, 04:41:03 AM
I've enjoyed what I've heard from the album so far. It's soft and not really unique, but I've liked the music and the vocals, and the production is pretty good too. What more can one ask for from Frontiers? :lol
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Post by: Bolsters on February 15, 2017, 04:50:28 AM
That might be alright. Fairly stupid band name though. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on February 15, 2017, 04:52:30 AM
I've enjoyed what I've heard from the album so far. It's soft and not really unique, but I've liked the music and the vocals, and the production is pretty good too. What more can one ask for from Frontiers? :lol

Yeah, seems like they could be batting slightly overs with this one.  Hopefully it's in the same vein as the Find Me.  Lars is just a tremendous vocalist though.  Definitely worth a listen.

That might be alright. Fairly stupid band name though. :lol

It's tough as fuck, come on, LIONVILLE!!!  RROOOAAAARRR!!!
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 15, 2017, 04:57:00 AM
I've enjoyed what I've heard from the album so far. It's soft and not really unique, but I've liked the music and the vocals, and the production is pretty good too. What more can one ask for from Frontiers? :lol

Yeah, seems like they could be batting slightly overs with this one.  Hopefully it's in the same vein as the Find Me.  Lars is just a tremendous vocalist though.  Definitely worth a listen.


I still regularly listen to both Find Me albums back to back without skipping anything (bar the title track of the second album). I'd be happy if this is as consistent as that.

LIONVILLE MOTHERFUCKER. WE AIN'T JUST A WHITE LION OR A PRIDE OF LIONS, WE'RE A WHOLE GOD DAMN LIONVILLE.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 15, 2017, 05:22:48 AM
Also started listening to the new Pride of Lions. All I can think when I hear a Peterik song is Jimi Jamison singing it. I can hear him in my head.
There's some ok stuff - cheesy and predictable but you know it's a Peterik tune. He's certainly got a style.
Not essential I would say.


Not essential but nowhere near as bad as I feared.   The cheesy songs seem a lot better without a cheesetastic video .    I agree about hearing Jimi , in large part because the first half of the album in particular sounds like a Vital Signs era Survivor album and not Pride of Lions.

The second half improves and sounds a lot more like I would expect from Pride of Lions.  There's not much rock in there but for what it is it's a pretty decent effort.  Nowhere near as memorable as the debut though.   Freedom of the Night is probably the most PoL sounding and probably my favourite track.
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Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2017, 04:37:52 AM
I've enjoyed what I've heard from the album so far. It's soft and not really unique, but I've liked the music and the vocals, and the production is pretty good too. What more can one ask for from Frontiers? :lol

Yeah, seems like they could be batting slightly overs with this one.  Hopefully it's in the same vein as the Find Me.  Lars is just a tremendous vocalist though.  Definitely worth a listen.


I still regularly listen to both Find Me albums back to back without skipping anything (bar the title track of the second album). I'd be happy if this is as consistent as that.

LIONVILLE MOTHERFUCKER. WE AIN'T JUST A WHITE LION OR A PRIDE OF LIONS, WE'RE A WHOLE GOD DAMN LIONVILLE.

I don't know why the chick sings on that song when all she sings is a random verse before the instrumental break.  It's just weird, and what's even more awkward is that she comes back in and sings the same verse exactly the same way after the lead break.  Then you don't hear her again, I always found that bizarre as fuck.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 16, 2017, 05:10:58 AM
I don't know why the chick sings on that song when all she sings is a random verse before the instrumental break.  It's just weird, and what's even more awkward is that she comes back in and sings the same verse exactly the same way after the lead break.  Then you don't hear her again, I always found that bizarre as fuck.

I think you're referring to Another Day. I actually really like the addition of female vocals on that one, which is incredibly rare on a Frontiers album. But it's not Issa, which is also incredibly rare on a Frontiers album. :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2017, 05:27:40 AM
I don't know why the chick sings on that song when all she sings is a random verse before the instrumental break.  It's just weird, and what's even more awkward is that she comes back in and sings the same verse exactly the same way after the lead break.  Then you don't hear her again, I always found that bizarre as fuck.

I think you're referring to Another Day. I actually really like the addition of female vocals on that one, which is incredibly rare on a Frontiers album. But it's not Issa, which is also incredibly rare on a Frontiers album. :lol

Why must you mention that bitch?

Just found the files on my computer and played the title track and it's cool, what don't you like Blob?  Pretty much the same quality as the rest.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 16, 2017, 05:33:25 AM
I don't know, something about the chorus just weirds me out. As you said, it's basically like the rest, so I have no explanation for it. :dunno:
Not a single other song on either album I skip or dislike though, so I'd still say that's some impressive consistency.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2017, 05:34:36 AM
That's cool bro.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2017, 09:01:29 AM
 New House of Lords. Meh.

https://youtu.be/_axlOgXFtBM
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2017, 09:55:44 AM
That House of Lords was ok,  but nothing special.

Thats a lot of keyboards!!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
New House of Lords. Meh.

https://youtu.be/_axlOgXFtBM

I thought it was pretty good.  I'm looking forward to the album actually.  The video is a step up from what Frontiers usually dish up.  Jimi Bell rocks too.  But seriously, six keyboards?  Come on bro!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2017, 03:11:38 PM
New House of Lords. Meh.

https://youtu.be/_axlOgXFtBM

I thought it was pretty good.  I'm looking forward to the album actually.  The video is a step up from what Frontiers usually dish up.  Jimi Bell rocks too.  But seriously, six keyboards?  Come on bro!

He's never heard of a controller keyboard 🙄
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2017, 03:12:50 PM
Is there a reason for six keyboards?  Can't one do the trick lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2017, 03:14:05 PM
Setting up all those would just be a pain in the ass!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on February 16, 2017, 03:19:51 PM
Six keyboards is Spinal Tap 101
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on February 16, 2017, 03:20:46 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on February 16, 2017, 03:53:09 PM
He bought 'em, he's gonna play 'em 😀🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹
                                                       
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on February 24, 2017, 12:31:44 AM
I've had a quick listen to the new Lionville, and it sounds quite solid. No clear standouts for me at this point, but the performances and production are great, and there are some unexpected musical choices in there, at least to me. I found it all enjoyable enough, so I'll give it some more listens and see what stands out.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2017, 05:08:34 AM
I've had a quick listen to the new Lionville, and it sounds quite solid. No clear standouts for me at this point, but the performances and production are great, and there are some unexpected musical choices in there, at least to me. I found it all enjoyable enough, so I'll give it some more listens and see what stands out.

Good stuff.  The songs I've heard made me happy enough so will definitely check it out.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on February 24, 2017, 10:49:10 AM
Sounded ok from the songs I've heard so far.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on February 24, 2017, 10:55:05 AM
Never heard of Lionville.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Big Hath on February 24, 2017, 11:13:13 AM
it's about 8 miles to the east of North Haverbrook
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on February 24, 2017, 12:04:49 PM
Great, now if I just knew how to get to North Haverbrook.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Big Hath on February 24, 2017, 12:15:32 PM
take the monorail
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2017, 05:47:28 PM
Never heard of Lionville.

Don't bother.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on February 24, 2017, 05:55:05 PM
Never heard of Lionville.

Don't bother.

 :lol

Advice heeded!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2017, 06:00:11 PM
Never heard of Lionville.

Don't bother.

 :lol

Advice heeded!

I couldn't have put it any simpler.  ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2017, 05:03:55 AM
Just started listening to Tokyo Motor Fist and surprise, surprise it sounds like a mix of D2 and Trixter.   I feel like I lose some brain cells every time I say that band name  :lol


Expecting an album full of solid , very familiar songs with very few standouts.


Yup......half way through and too much cheese and too familiar.  "Love you black and blue".............really, at this stage?   Was hoping for a bit more based on the great reviews.  Put Me To Shame is a bit more like I was hoping for but too little too late.   Mid 70's from me is likely.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 03, 2017, 05:49:51 AM
Brent, when was the last album that you gave an actual failing grade to?
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2017, 05:54:08 AM
Brent, when was the last album that you gave an actual failing grade to?

When you say failing I assume you mean < 50% . 

These days I sample extensively .  I probably checked out a dozen bands today and liked none of them.  If something gets to the point where I listen to the album then chances are that I have already made a judgement that it's likely 70%+ material - saves wasting time.   And if I don't rate it 75% or better than I don't even record it unless it's a well known band.   DT albums in the later MP era scored in the 55-65% range and I would consider that a fail.

Seeing as I don't rate albums that I don't listen to in full , the chances of anything being rated 50% or less is very unlikely.  Unless a classic band produces a shocker.  Dokken - Shadowlife or something :lol

Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Bolsters on March 03, 2017, 06:15:54 AM
What did The Great Divide (Allen/Lande) score? :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2017, 06:20:19 AM
What did The Great Divide (Allen/Lande) score? :biggrin:

Never bothered :lol   I think I must've taken everyone else's thoughts on board and worried about more promising prospects.   Poor old Tolkki was a bit of a punching bag around here back then  ;D    I did listen to that other thing he did though - probably cos the chick singer was hot .  Can't seem to find a rating :laugh:
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Bolsters on March 03, 2017, 06:28:52 AM
Never bothered :lol
Good call. :tup
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 03, 2017, 07:11:33 AM
I remember listening to Shadowlife from Dokken. Afterwards that was launched into the garbage bin like a frisbee
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on March 03, 2017, 01:44:12 PM
I remember listening to Shadowlife from Dokken. Afterwards that was launched into the garbage bin like a frisbee

Never played it. Don't intend to.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 03, 2017, 02:05:11 PM
I remember listening to Shadowlife from Dokken. Afterwards that was launched into the garbage bin like a frisbee

Never played it. Don't intend to.

One of the worst

If Dedicated to Chaos is 1a, Shadowlife would be 1b
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2017, 02:38:41 PM
What did The Great Divide (Allen/Lande) score? :biggrin:

Never bothered :lol   I think I must've taken everyone else's thoughts on board and worried about more promising prospects.   Poor old Tolkki was a bit of a punching bag around here back then  ;D    I did listen to that other thing he did though - probably cos the chick singer was hot .  Can't seem to find a rating :laugh:

One of my biggest disappointments was Tolkki getting that project.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on March 03, 2017, 03:00:11 PM
I remember listening to Shadowlife from Dokken. Afterwards that was launched into the garbage bin like a frisbee

Never played it. Don't intend to.

One of the worst

If Dedicated to Chaos is 1a, Shadowlife would be 1b

I did get Dysfunctional. That was complete shite.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on March 03, 2017, 03:30:28 PM
Just had a listen to Dysfunctional and it's not as bad as I remember. Too stripped back to be Dokken but it's ok. And I'm surprised at how well I knew the songs. Gave it more of a chance at the time than I realised.
Now listening to Erase The Slate. Great album too. Not too familiar with this one though. Reb Beach is killing it. George who?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 04, 2017, 03:40:55 AM
Erase the Slate had some cool songs on it. Pretty good disc
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 04, 2017, 02:41:50 PM
Just had a listen to Dysfunctional and it's not as bad as I remember. Too stripped back to be Dokken but it's ok. And I'm surprised at how well I knew the songs. Gave it more of a chance at the time than I realised.
Now listening to Erase The Slate. Great album too. Not too familiar with this one though. Reb Beach is killing it. George who?  :biggrin:

I quite liked Dysfunctional, some good songs on there but overall too modern sounding for what I wanted from Dokken. Shadowlife had maybe half a song that was listenable and Don sang like shit.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on March 04, 2017, 03:09:50 PM
Just had a listen to Dysfunctional and it's not as bad as I remember. Too stripped back to be Dokken but it's ok. And I'm surprised at how well I knew the songs. Gave it more of a chance at the time than I realised.
Now listening to Erase The Slate. Great album too. Not too familiar with this one though. Reb Beach is killing it. George who?  :biggrin:

I quite liked Dysfunctional, some good songs on there but overall too modern sounding for what I wanted from Dokken. Shadowlife had maybe half a song that was listenable and Don sang like shit.

His voice was on it's way out on Dysfunctional I thought. That Jim Morrison thing started around that time and I hate that.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on March 05, 2017, 04:16:20 AM
Erase the Slate had some cool songs on it. Pretty good disc

Agree.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on March 05, 2017, 08:35:05 AM
What band is Erase The Slate? Who are we talking about?
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 05, 2017, 08:46:35 AM
The Dokken album, Erase the Slate. 

I know you aren't much of a Dokken fan so I think its a safe bet you never heard that one and never will lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on March 05, 2017, 09:10:28 AM
Who plays on it?
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 05, 2017, 10:38:53 AM
No George, the guitarist was Reb Beach and then Pilson and Brown I believe.

The album doesn't even remotely compare to their 80s material but it's 1000x better then Shadowlife. None of the Dokken albums after Back for the Attack have done much for me
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 05, 2017, 11:40:05 AM
Back For The Attack is the quintessential Dokken Album, at least for me. The records leading up to it were good but a little bit sketchy at times, BFTA does everything right and the live album after that was a beast of an album, not only by name. After that began the steady decline of Don's voice and the music.

But why is the talk about Dokken in the bubblegum thread?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 05, 2017, 01:08:57 PM
Beast from the East has to be the climax for Dokken; awesome live album.

Don's solo album, Up from the Ashes, deserves some props. It's basically a Dokken album and it's solid from beginning to end
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on March 05, 2017, 05:00:00 PM
Don's solo album, Up from the Ashes, deserves some props. It's basically a Dokken album and it's solid from beginning to end

It's a brilliant album.  Beast of a lineup too;

Don - Vox
John Norum and Billy White - Guitars
Pete Baltes - Bass
Mikey Dee - Drums
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on March 05, 2017, 05:02:44 PM
Wow, that's a great lineup. Can't say I have the first clue who Billy White is though.

Checking it on Spotify.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on March 05, 2017, 05:10:38 PM
Wow, that's a great lineup. Can't say I have the first clue who Billy White is though.

Checking it on Spotify.

Billy White was one of the original members of technical metal pioneers Watchtower and he shreds all over this album and pretty much puts Norum in the shade.  And Norum was no slouch back then.

These days Billy is some sort of Buddhist monk who plays the sitar or something  :lol   It's such a shame that he really only did the one album like this in straight ahead rock/metal - he could've been one of the greats.

UP From The Ashes got an honourable mention in my Top 50 if memory serves correct.
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Post by: wolfking on March 05, 2017, 05:19:35 PM
I only have Control and Resistance from Watchtower and can't remember much about it.  Never heard the album Billy White was on.

Brent gave me the recommendation for Up From The Ashes Tim as even know I've been a Dokken fan for a while, I never checked it out, but I'm glad I finally did, get into it.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on March 05, 2017, 05:29:16 PM
Wow, that's a great lineup. Can't say I have the first clue who Billy White is though.

Checking it on Spotify.

Billy White was one of the original members of technical metal pioneers Watchtower and he shreds all over this album and pretty much puts Norum in the shade.  And Norum was no slouch back then.

Now familiar with Watchtower either.

You sure know how to rub it in. :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on March 05, 2017, 06:06:38 PM
Don's solo album, Up from the Ashes, deserves some props. It's basically a Dokken album and it's solid from beginning to end

It's a brilliant album. 

UP From The Ashes got an honourable mention in my Top 50 if memory serves correct.

I must need new ears.

I did like Down In Flames and The Hunger though.




But why is the talk about Dokken in the bubblegum thread?  :biggrin:

Probably about right.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on March 06, 2017, 01:36:41 AM
I've never really loved Up From The Ashes. It's good, but wasn't a patch on BFTA, which probably killed it for me at the time. I missed Lynch's tone. The guitars sounded dull compared to GL.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2017, 04:56:29 AM
Don's solo album, Up from the Ashes, deserves some props. It's basically a Dokken album and it's solid from beginning to end

It's a brilliant album. 

UP From The Ashes got an honourable mention in my Top 50 if memory serves correct.

I must need new ears.

I did like Down In Flames and The Hunger though.




But why is the talk about Dokken in the bubblegum thread?  :biggrin:

Probably about right.

They are two of the weaker tracks on the album IMO.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2017, 06:53:02 AM
(https://scontent.fcxh1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/17021736_1309860372403344_1872183601085951301_n.jpg?oh=e322b2fc7e64c2a73cb1faba67ad6924&oe=5925BDDD)

May 12th.

Giggity.

Tim... we know your opinions.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on March 06, 2017, 12:31:51 PM
Don's solo album, Up from the Ashes, deserves some props. It's basically a Dokken album and it's solid from beginning to end

It's a brilliant album. 

UP From The Ashes got an honourable mention in my Top 50 if memory serves correct.

I must need new ears.

I did like Down In Flames and The Hunger though.


They are two of the weaker tracks on the album IMO.

 :facepalm:  Naturally!  :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2017, 04:30:23 AM
Looking forward to the Harem Scarem, the last one was actually really solid.  Very short, but very enjoyable.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2017, 04:32:24 AM
 :rollin New Eclipse mr.com rating............you guessed it, 100%!!  :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 07, 2017, 04:35:06 AM
I expect it will actually be a really solid album, but oh mr.com. :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on March 07, 2017, 04:38:16 AM
 :rollin  at Eclipse.  It probably sounds exactly the same as the last one and that got 100% , so why not?   I don't even visit the site any more - it's gone to the shitter.  Seems to just be the odd news release and promos for Frontiers and his own label.    Must be months since he did a review.

Hopefully the Harem Scarem is as good as the cover.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 07, 2017, 05:01:37 AM
Looking forward to the Harem Scarem, the last one was actually really solid.  Very short, but very enjoyable.

It was indeed excellent.  Hard to believe it was a 2014 release! 
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on March 07, 2017, 07:04:15 AM
:rollin  at Eclipse.  It probably sounds exactly the same as the last one and that got 100% , so why not?   I don't even visit the site any more - it's gone to the shitter.  Seems to just be the odd news release and promos for Frontiers and his own label.    Must be months since he did a review.

Hopefully the Harem Scarem is as good as the cover.

I haven't been there in years and I was a regular.

Harem Scarem albums are always short and pretty samey these days, but always quality.
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Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2017, 04:27:13 PM
I expect it will actually be a really solid album, but oh mr.com. :lol

I'm expecting something pretty good too.  I found myself writing off the last one pretty quickly because of how similar and generic it was, but as time went by, it was something I went back to a bit and it was quite dependable.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 08, 2017, 04:20:19 AM
I expect it will actually be a really solid album, but oh mr.com. :lol

I'm expecting something pretty good too.  I found myself writing off the last one pretty quickly because of how similar and generic it was, but as time went by, it was something I went back to a bit and it was quite dependable.

I felt the same way.  Every time I go back to it, I think "damn, why don't I play this more often?"
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 08, 2017, 04:23:19 AM
Looks like I still have Are You Ready to Rock and Bleed and Scream on my computer. I should give them another listen. Any other particular album that stands out?
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 08, 2017, 04:31:28 AM
Looks like I still have Are You Ready to Rock and Bleed and Scream on my computer. I should give them another listen. Any other particular album that stands out?

Those, along with Armaggedonize are the only ones I have.  I don't know their first two.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 08, 2017, 04:36:03 AM
Looks like I still have Are You Ready to Rock and Bleed and Scream on my computer. I should give them another listen. Any other particular album that stands out?

Those, along with Armaggedonize are the only ones I have.  I don't know their first two.

I didn't even realize they did anything before Are You Ready to Rock. Shows how much I've paid attention. Any opinion on which is the best out of the ones you have?
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 08, 2017, 04:39:21 AM
Looks like I still have Are You Ready to Rock and Bleed and Scream on my computer. I should give them another listen. Any other particular album that stands out?

Those, along with Armaggedonize are the only ones I have.  I don't know their first two.

I didn't even realize they did anything before Are You Ready to Rock. Shows how much I've paid attention. Any opinion on which is the best out of the ones you have?

Good question.  Normally, I'd refer you to Kade, and then just do the opposite of what he recommends.   :D

He got me in to them through Bleed and Scream.  I think I'd go B&S>Armageddonize>AYRTR.  Though, all of them are solid (IMO)
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2017, 04:43:46 AM
Bleed and Scream is probably the best place to start.  Armageddonize is the band trying to replicate Bleed and Scream in every way, and probably it's not as good but almost.

Are You Ready to Rock was the one that got me into the band.  Much more raw and straightforward, if that's possible.  Not as mature in the songwriting departement as Bleed and Scream, but probably more energy and a more metal hard rock tinge to it.

Don't bother with the first two.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 08, 2017, 04:47:57 AM
Currently half way through Are You Ready To Rock (figured I'd go chronologically with the two I have), and in light of Frontiers' output this decade, my opinion on this is more positive than it was at the time. :lol And I remember some of these songs pretty well considering how long it's been since I listened to it.
I know I listened to Bleed and Scream several times when it came out and enjoyed it, but nothing jumped out at me enough to keep listening to it. We'll see if I feel differently about that now.
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Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2017, 04:57:32 AM
I think that's the thing.  There's nothing really mindblowing about their stuff, but it's all pretty good quality, catchy, melodic and dependable.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 08, 2017, 05:24:35 AM
I think that's the thing.  There's nothing really mindblowing about their stuff, but it's all pretty good quality, catchy, melodic and dependable.

Yeah. I appreciate a good, consistent album though, even if there are no clear standouts.
Wow, Young Guns is totally them trying to channel 1987 Whitesnake. They could have called it Bad Boys pt II.
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Post by: TAC on March 08, 2017, 11:49:01 AM
Don't bother with the first two.
...or the ones after.  ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on March 08, 2017, 11:58:45 AM
I've enjoyed the last three. I'd probably take the last two HEAT albums over them though, just on that bit of variety. This new one will need to be awesome to make me bother with it as it's very likely to be a carbon copy of the last one, and the one before...
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Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2017, 04:13:48 PM
I think that's the thing.  There's nothing really mindblowing about their stuff, but it's all pretty good quality, catchy, melodic and dependable.

Yeah. I appreciate a good, consistent album though, even if there are no clear standouts.
Wow, Young Guns is totally them trying to channel 1987 Whitesnake. They could have called it Bad Boys pt II.

Pretty bloody blatant hey.  :lol

I've enjoyed the last three. I'd probably take the last two HEAT albums over them though, just on that bit of variety. This new one will need to be awesome to make me bother with it as it's very likely to be a carbon copy of the last one, and the one before...

I love the last two HEAT albums.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 08, 2017, 04:15:08 PM
That seems to be the consensus on HEAT but for me Address The Nation stuck and the last one did not.
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Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2017, 04:34:42 PM
That seems to be the consensus on HEAT but for me Address The Nation stuck and the last one did not.

I initially thought that too, the last one was a really big grower, I mean really big for me.  I may even enjoy it more now than Address the Nation.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 09, 2017, 03:17:47 PM
That seems to be the consensus on HEAT but for me Address The Nation stuck and the last one did not.

I initially thought that too, the last one was a really big grower, I mean really big for me.  I may even enjoy it more now than Address the Nation.

Yeah that's fair. The first two that Melodicrock.com blew a load over did nothing for me. They definitely improved with the change of singer.
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Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2017, 03:47:48 PM
Definitely.  The old stuff I thought was average at best.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 11, 2017, 07:14:44 AM
That seems to be the consensus on HEAT but for me Address The Nation stuck and the last one did not.

I initially thought that too, the last one was a really big grower, I mean really big for me.  I may even enjoy it more now than Address the Nation.

Yeah that's fair. The first two that Melodicrock.com blew a load over did nothing for me. They definitely improved with the change of singer.

Just checked out the latest reviews over there (finally!) and he's given Jack Russell's latest album 30%.  That just shows you how ridiculous he has gotten with his reviews.  Anyone in the regular faves of his has to do something awful to get <95% and yet he gives this quite decent album 30%.   I rated it around 80% and can't fathom how any reasonable reviewer could give it less than 50%.   Sure it's not brilliant but at least Jack is trying to do something half original.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 11, 2017, 08:22:42 AM
That seems to be the consensus on HEAT but for me Address The Nation stuck and the last one did not.

I initially thought that too, the last one was a really big grower, I mean really big for me.  I may even enjoy it more now than Address the Nation.

Yeah that's fair. The first two that Melodicrock.com blew a load over did nothing for me. They definitely improved with the change of singer.

Just checked out the latest reviews over there (finally!) and he's given Jack Russell's latest album 30%.  That just shows you how ridiculous he has gotten with his reviews.  Anyone in the regular faves of his has to do something awful to get <95% and yet he gives this quite decent album 30%.   I rated it around 80% and can't fathom how any reasonable reviewer could give it less than 50%.   Sure it's not brilliant but at least Jack is trying to do something half original.

It is rather pathetic. I like the JR album. Not what you would expect from him maybe, but loads better than the awful Great White album they did without him.
The same album by Rick Springfield would need a new scoring system that goes to 110%
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 11, 2017, 09:05:15 AM
I don't think I've really checked out that site at any length, it seems a tad ridiculous.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 11, 2017, 12:43:25 PM
I don't think I've really checked out that site at any length, it seems a tad ridiculous.

There was a time that it was a good laugh but a couple of sensitive souls would get upset at the pisstaking and complain to Andrew and the pisstakers would get banned. It got to the point where there was just no fun anymore.
I used to hang out with a load of the guys (and girls) at the rock nights in Wigan, but I got too old for that.
You could never rely on the reviews - he has his favourites and scores them high no matter what.
The new Harem Scarem will get 100%. Anything with Jim Peterik too.
Yes, it's ridiculous  :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2017, 05:05:24 AM
About 5 years ago the site was really up to date, great reviews and lots of handy info on there.  Now it's just a piece of shit.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 12, 2017, 05:10:30 AM
5 years ago you say........ coincidence or not this thread has been going for pretty much exactly that long? :lol :neverusethis:
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Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2017, 05:12:40 AM
5 years ago you say........ coincidence or not this thread has been going for pretty much exactly that long? :lol :neverusethis:

haha, that's sort of why I started the thread.  mr.com got me into so much of the current melodic rock stuff.  It was such a good resource for the genre.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 12, 2017, 05:17:06 AM
This thread has gotten me into a lot of melodic rock stuff, not to mention being one of my favourite threads in general for the company. :hat
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Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2017, 05:18:32 AM
This thread has gotten me into a lot of melodic rock stuff, not to mention being one of my favourite threads in general for the company. :hat

 :metal

It's just a shame the genre is so generic and flat at the moment.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 12, 2017, 05:20:18 AM
Yeah. On the other hand, it's nice to have this thread to help sift through it all and find the gems, both new and old.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 12, 2017, 10:54:26 AM
About 5 years ago the site was really up to date, great reviews and lots of handy info on there.  Now it's just a piece of shit.

 :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2017, 02:44:54 PM
About 5 years ago the site was really up to date, great reviews and lots of handy info on there.  Now it's just a piece of shit.

 :lol

Honesty is the best policy j.  ;D
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Post by: bl5150 on March 12, 2017, 06:56:44 PM
I never thought I would say it but yeah............half way through the new Unruly Child and struggling with it.   Even allowing for it being wimpy the songs are pretty meh!    No issues with the singing - pretty great for a trans 62 year old :lol  - but these guys (and gal ) seem to have grown out of rocking.

EDIT - the 2nd half was a bit better and rocks in parts but we're still talking a rating around mid 70's and I'm probably being generous.


Eclipse and House of Lords up next - not expecting to be raving over either but we'll see.
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Post by: wolfking on March 12, 2017, 08:08:01 PM
Not gonna bother with the Unruly Child but looking forward to see what you think of the Eclipse and House of Lords, even though I think I know what your reactions will be.
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Post by: TAC on March 12, 2017, 08:19:15 PM
I sampled the Unruly Child and it absolutely fucking blows!
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Post by: bl5150 on March 12, 2017, 08:40:42 PM
Not gonna bother with the Unruly Child but looking forward to see what you think of the Eclipse and House of Lords, even though I think I know what your reactions will be.

I think you do too  ;D

The Eclipse is pretty much exactly as expected and that's the issue.   Back in the good old days a band like say Van halen..........each album (like em or not) had its own sound and personality and most often the songs within an album did too (to a lesser extent).    Eclipse sound as they always do and the songs rock in the same way they always do.   Solid album - no duds but also nothing spectacular.   Points off for total lack of originality in general and relative to their existing works.  75%

I'd rate Hosue of Lords similar or perhaps a touch higher for effort.   They have tried harder to write something half original but only executed in parts.  I would say the best HoL tracks are a bit better but the worst tracks are worse.   77% for at least trying to do something a bit different here and there and some variety.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 13, 2017, 05:35:19 AM
I'll sample each.  What you said about Eclipse is what I'd say about the last 3-4 HOL albums too.  Nothing bad, but nothing all that original either.  Musicianship in the 70s and 80s was way different than what the 'melodic' genre puts out nowadays.  What you said about VH also applied to most 'melodic' (or glam, or metal, or hard rock) bands back then.

Unruly Child was disappointing, given how much I liked the s/t that Brent turned me on to.  Never tried anything else from them, and now I have no desire to.
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Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2017, 05:44:18 AM
Not gonna bother with the Unruly Child but looking forward to see what you think of the Eclipse and House of Lords, even though I think I know what your reactions will be.

I think you do too  ;D

The Eclipse is pretty much exactly as expected and that's the issue.   Back in the good old days a band like say Van halen..........each album (like em or not) had its own sound and personality and most often the songs within an album did too (to a lesser extent).    Eclipse sound as they always do and the songs rock in the same way they always do.   Solid album - no duds but also nothing spectacular.   Points off for total lack of originality in general and relative to their existing works.  75%

I'd rate Hosue of Lords similar or perhaps a touch higher for effort.   They have tried harder to write something half original but only executed in parts.  I would say the best HoL tracks are a bit better but the worst tracks are worse.   77% for at least trying to do something a bit different here and there and some variety.

Could have put so much money on this.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 13, 2017, 05:45:14 AM
No kidding, right.  Zero shock value in that post whatsoever.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 13, 2017, 05:45:58 AM
Crystal ball time................the next Work of Art sounds the same as the last too  :lol     Need to check the new Lionville and I expect as much there too.  :D
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Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2017, 05:48:35 AM
Crystal ball time................the next Work of Art sounds the same as the last too  :lol     Need to check the new Lionville too and I expect as much there too.

New Work of Art you say.....

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/26uf0DmgxejEbV8Os/giphy.gif)
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Post by: bl5150 on March 13, 2017, 05:53:39 AM
Groundhog Day ...........same album under the tree each time .  Merry Christmas from Mario and the team at Frontiers :lol   


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Post by: jingle.boy on March 13, 2017, 06:33:38 AM
Groundhog Day ...........same album under the tree each time .  Merry Christmas from Mario and the team at Frontiers :lol   

 :lol :lol

I actually found Lionville to be more enjoyable and "unique".  But when the point of comparison is that Unruly Child album, that bar ain't very high.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 13, 2017, 06:48:52 AM
Groundhog Day ...........same album under the tree each time .  Merry Christmas from Mario and the team at Frontiers :lol   




I want to re-edit Groundhog Day consisting solely of the same Del Vecchio studio footage over and over.

I just got the new Eclipse album. I'll let you guys know what I think.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 13, 2017, 07:20:02 AM
Speaking of Martensson , Soto has just announced that another W.E.T. album is on the way.   I was at one point a JSS fanboy extraordinaire but at this point I can't say I am hugely excited about much that he does , let alone working with the Groundhog boys from Eclipse and Work of Art .    Hopefully it'll be a nice surprise.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 13, 2017, 10:09:52 AM
I'm almost done with the Eclipse album, and agree with you guys. Like the other Eclipse albums, I enjoyed it as background music, and didn't feel the need to skip anything, but damned if I can remember a single thing that stood out about it. I think they perform really well, and the production is great, but the songwriting is the same old stuff.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 13, 2017, 12:28:55 PM
No argument from me on any of this. Not tried HoL yet but the tracks already released aren't making me excited and surely that's their job.
Thought I might like the Lionville because I did enjoy the sampler tracks but just found a whole album of boring as fuck.
Oh well.Crazy Lixx is out soon 🤔
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Post by: bl5150 on March 13, 2017, 05:44:42 PM
No argument from me on any of this. Not tried HoL yet but the tracks already released aren't making me excited and surely that's their job.
Thought I might like the Lionville because I did enjoy the sampler tracks but just found a whole album of boring as fuck.
Oh well.Crazy Lixx is out soon

Just got through the Lionville and I would rate it similar to the Eclipse.   With albums like Eclipse and Lionville I am doing something I don't normally do and docking a number of points at the end.   I don't complicate things too much when rating things - I generally find that rating the songs and averaging those out gives a decent album rating.   But with these samey albums the songs in isolation often deserve a decent rating but as a collective they are so much less impressive.

Anyway.........low-mid 70's for Lionville.   The guy can sing no doubt (amazing voice really) but once he gets up there those vocal melodies just blur into each other from song to song and from album to album and from Lionville to Work Of Art.........   He needs to get a more diverse band behind him - maybe do something with Lukather and it could be amazing.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 13, 2017, 05:47:02 PM
No argument from me on any of this. Not tried HoL yet but the tracks already released aren't making me excited and surely that's their job.
Thought I might like the Lionville because I did enjoy the sampler tracks but just found a whole album of boring as fuck.
Oh well.Crazy Lixx is out soon 🤔

Speaking of which...

https://yt2fb.com/crazy-lixx-snakes-in-paradise-official-audio/

Hmmm, very Frontiers. Ffs I'm losing the will to live. Only thing saving it is the singers voice.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 13, 2017, 05:55:51 PM
We need to remind people how good this stuff can be Paul  :metal - that's what I hope to do in the next podcast.   Out of everyone here I know you have a hard/melodic rock collection that isn't unlike mine in terms of size/quality ,  so if you have anyone in particular that you feel would be cool to feature that you think I may overlook then feel free to PM me some suggestions.

I don't have time to go over the (literally) thousands of albums that I  either own and have not got around to listening to or have marked as worth following up ,  but I am sure that I can throw something cool together from what I already have in iTunes. 
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Post by: Lowdz on March 14, 2017, 02:40:29 AM
I used to think I knew this stuff pretty well til I met you Brent 😀
Will put the thinking cap on.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 14, 2017, 03:02:25 AM
Cool - just remembered that I have a Podcast playlist in iTunes where I have gradually added songs that I think may be of interest over the last year or so.   Just checked and it has 1250 songs in it :lol   Should be a bit more manageable once I edit out the real heavy and real wimpy stuff + anything post 2000. 
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Post by: wolfking on March 14, 2017, 06:04:20 AM
Speaking of Martensson , Soto has just announced that another W.E.T. album is on the way.   I was at one point a JSS fanboy extraordinaire but at this point I can't say I am hugely excited about much that he does , let alone working with the Groundhog boys from Eclipse and Work of Art .    Hopefully it'll be a nice surprise.

Jus saw this.  Here's hoping.  First album was a gem, but the second one was a letdown.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 14, 2017, 12:15:59 PM
At this point, I couldn't be less excited ☹️
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Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2017, 05:30:45 AM
At this point, I couldn't be less excited ☹️

I can't blame you for feeling this.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 15, 2017, 03:25:27 PM
Seen on Frontiers FB feed

Quote
Serafino Perugino and Russell Allen making plans for the next Allen/Lande album. Stay tuned!

My response... Just keep Tolkki far - FAR - away from this one.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 15, 2017, 04:48:53 PM
I wonder if that last Allen/Lande was a one and done for Tolkki and if they will look for someone else.  Ideally Magnus will come back.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 15, 2017, 05:08:13 PM
Russell Allen: vocals
Jorn Lande : vocals
Alessandro DelVecchio:  guitar , keys, drums, backing vocals, triangle, cowbell, shoeshine, reception, food prep,  producer, video director.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 15, 2017, 07:38:41 PM
More Cowbell!!!
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Post by: Bolsters on March 15, 2017, 08:32:21 PM
My response... Just keep Tolkki far - FAR - away from this one.
We can only hope.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 15, 2017, 08:37:05 PM
Russell Allen: vocals
Jorn Lande : vocals
Alessandro DelVecchio:  guitar , keys, drums, backing vocals, triangle, cowbell, shoeshine, reception, food prep,  producer, video director.


:lol
You forgot composer, mixer, special thanks, album artwork, PR, and also a credit for playing the part of Issa.
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Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2017, 09:43:29 PM
Seen on Frontiers FB feed

Quote
Serafino Perugino and Russell Allen making plans for the next Allen/Lande album. Stay tuned!

My response... Just keep Tolkki far - FAR - away from this one.

Oh fuck.  Since Russell has something to do with the planning he can request Tolkki doesn't get anywhere near it.  Come on Magnus to rescue, please!!!


Russell Allen: vocals
Jorn Lande : vocals
Alessandro DelVecchio:  guitar , keys, drums, backing vocals, triangle, cowbell, shoeshine, reception, food prep,  producer, video director.



 :rollin

More like;

Alessandro DelVecchio:  guitar , keys, drums, lead vocals, backing vocals, all vocals, triangle, cowbell, shoeshine, reception, food prep,  producer, video director, writer, producer, mixer, manager, roadie, stagehand, hairdresser, masseuse, physio, dietician, personal trainer, chiropractor, life coach, personal assistant.
Issa: Lead vocals, whore
Russell Allen: some backing vocals
Jorn Lande : some more backing vocals



Russell Allen: vocals
Jorn Lande : vocals
Alessandro DelVecchio:  guitar , keys, drums, backing vocals, triangle, cowbell, shoeshine, reception, food prep,  producer, video director.


You forgot composer, mixer, special thanks, album artwork, PR, and also a credit for playing the part of Issa.

 :rollin

 
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Post by: bl5150 on March 15, 2017, 10:06:26 PM
I hope for Issa's sake she doesn't Google herself :lol
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Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on March 15, 2017, 10:07:05 PM
I'll admit, I listened to a few tracks from the Tolkki Allen/Lande album, and I honestly couldn't tell a difference between it and the other albums.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 15, 2017, 10:08:13 PM
I hope for Issa's sake she doesn't Google herself :lol

We're probably the only site besides Frontiers and mr.com that have any mention of her too. :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2017, 10:56:22 PM
I'll admit, I listened to a few tracks from the Tolkki Allen/Lande album, and I honestly couldn't tell a difference between it and the other albums.

The fuck dude?  The quality of the last one compared to the first three is night and day.


I hope for Issa's sake she doesn't Google herself :lol

We're probably the only site besides Frontiers and mr.com that have any mention of her too. :lol

Yep, we'd be third site down from the top.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 16, 2017, 04:15:19 AM
Russell Allen: vocals
Jorn Lande : vocals
Alessandro DelVecchio:  guitar , keys, drums, backing vocals, triangle, cowbell, shoeshine, reception, food prep,  producer, video director.



 :rollin

More like;

Alessandro DelVecchio:  guitar , keys, drums, lead vocals, backing vocals, all vocals, triangle, cowbell, shoeshine, reception, food prep,  producer, video director, writer, producer, mixer, manager, roadie, stagehand, hairdresser, masseuse, physio, dietician, personal trainer, chiropractor, life coach, personal assistant.
Issa: Lead vocals, whore
Russell Allen: some backing vocals
Jorn Lande : some more backing vocals



Russell Allen: vocals
Jorn Lande : vocals
Alessandro DelVecchio:  guitar , keys, drums, backing vocals, triangle, cowbell, shoeshine, reception, food prep,  producer, video director.


You forgot composer, mixer, special thanks, album artwork, PR, and also a credit for playing the part of Issa.

 :rollin

So, there's no bass then?  :biggrin:
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2017, 04:45:26 AM
I'll admit, I listened to a few tracks from the Tolkki Allen/Lande album, and I honestly couldn't tell a difference between it and the other albums.

(https://replygif.net/i/478.gif)

Man... the comments in the FB feed are overwhelmingly anti-Tolkki.

And Frontiers' response:

Quote
For all of you Magnus Karlsson fans, check our FB page on Monday, March 20th around 1pm EST for some exciting news (no, not related to Allen/Lande).

If not Allen/Lande, maybe he's finally getting around to Starbreaker with Harnell?
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Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2017, 06:05:22 AM
Magnus and Tony have definitely been working on a new Starbreaker.  Will definitely be that Chad.

So....does his mean Magnus hasn't got any involvement with Allen/Lande I wonder.

Surely Tolkki wouldn't be asked again, fuck.  Looking at some of the comments now and they can't deny the fans.  Everyone rooting for Magnus back at the helm and Tolkki to stay far away.  :lol  So good to see.  They will probably give Martensson a crack.  :lol

Chad did you see the new Vanden Plas live CD/DVD!!?!
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 16, 2017, 06:41:02 AM
How many other legitimate options are there besides the Tolkster?
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on March 16, 2017, 01:13:31 PM
I'll admit, I listened to a few tracks from the Tolkki Allen/Lande album, and I honestly couldn't tell a difference between it and the other albums.

Whatever the version of Specsavers is for ears, you need to go there. Now 😀
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2017, 03:05:34 PM
Chad did you see the new Vanden Plas live CD/DVD!!?!

Indeed I did.  Not sure what to think.  I wasn't super high on The Seraphic Clockwork to begin with, so a DVD with just that as the setlist... I'll have to ponder.

How many other legitimate options are there besides the Tolkster?

Someone suggested Joel Hoekstra.
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Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2017, 05:09:10 PM
I really liked Clockwork Chad, so I'm all for it.

In regards to Allen Lande, it probably will be bloody Delvecchio, Magnus is the man, but if for some reason he's not going to be involved, others I'm thinking of involved with Frontiers that I'd take over Tolkki;

Erik Martensson
Simone Mularoni
Dennis Ward
Jani Liimatainen
Tom and James Martin
Mat Sinner?
Trond Holter?

Hoekstra would be cool enough I guess, his solo album was good without being spectacular.  I'd really love to see Roland Grapow do it, but not even sure him and Jorn are still friends.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 16, 2017, 05:24:38 PM
Well... Mat just posted about finishing up the new Jorn album.  So, unlikely to be him to pen any new Allen/Lande.

Quote from: Mat Sinner on FB
Mission completed! Very happy about the new JORN album and being a part of it. Great songs, great lyrics, killer voice & vibe! News & details coming soon!
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Post by: bl5150 on March 16, 2017, 05:25:20 PM
Oh God no for Martensson   :lol


Just bypass all the hacks and get Romeo on board for Symphony Allen/Lande.
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Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2017, 05:33:51 PM
Well... Mat just posted about finishing up the new Jorn album.  So, unlikely to be him to pen any new Allen/Lande.

Quote from: Mat Sinner on FB
Mission completed! Very happy about the new JORN album and being a part of it. Great songs, great lyrics, killer voice & vibe! News & details coming soon!

Wow, hopefully he's added a bit of energy to Jorn's formula.

Oh God no for Martensson   :lol


Just bypass all the hacks and get Romeo on board for Symphony Allen/Lande.

Tolkki or Martensson, take your pick.  :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on March 16, 2017, 05:36:53 PM
I didn't even listen to the last one but , all things equal (and Tolkki somewhere on Planet Earth mentally) I would say Tolkki is far more capable of writing music of the style needed here.   

But yeah - ideally neither.   Magnus' writing is as much a signature of this project as the two singers - unless it's him I may not bother this time either.
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Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2017, 05:42:05 PM
I didn't even listen to the last one but , all things equal (and Tolkki somewhere on Planet Earth mentally) I would say Tolkki is far more capable of writing music of the style needed here.   

But yeah - ideally neither.   Magnus' writing is as much a signature of this project as the two singers - unless it's him I may not bother this time either.

I absolutely agree with this.  If Tolkki was at the top of his game, for the singers he would leave Martensson for dead, but as we know it just hasn't been the case.

I too will be pissed if it's anyone else besides Magnus.  The three of them just worked so damn well.

Where does Magnus rate for you Brent, just overall, in terms of his projects, songwriting, playing etc?
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Post by: bl5150 on March 16, 2017, 05:45:09 PM

Where does Magnus rate for you Brent, just overall, in terms of his projects, songwriting, playing etc?

I rate him highly - I maybe don't rate Last Tribe and Freefall as high as you (although still enjoyable) - but I think the Allen/Lande stuff is clearly his best work....those first couple.   I think in the end he did a bit of a Gary Hughes and got involved in too many things at once and diluted down his best work across too many albums/projects for a while there.
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Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2017, 05:50:39 PM

Where does Magnus rate for you Brent, just overall, in terms of his projects, songwriting, playing etc?

I rate him highly - I maybe don't rate Last Tribe and Freefall as high as you (although still enjoyable) - but I think the Allen/Lande stuff is clearly his best work....those first couple.   I think in the end he did a bit of a Gary Hughes and got involved in too many things at once and diluted down his best work across too many albums/projects for a while there.

Even though he's a top tier songwriter and guitarist for me, I would agree, the last Kiske/Somerville album showed that he is human and spreading himself too thin.  The Bob Catley, Codex, Tony O'Hora etc. are all brilliant, but not Last Tribe or Allen/Lande quality.  I think he's getting back to some great stuff now just focusing on Primal Fear and Freefall though, and I'm really looking forward to this new Ferryman project with Ronnie whatshisname.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 17, 2017, 06:30:29 AM
Ronnie Romero.

Yeah, very much looking forward to that one.

For me, Freefall and Allen/Lande are god-tier.  Everything else after that is between A and A-.  Planet Alliance is excellent - helps I'm a big Mike Andersson fanboi.  Uber-thanks to Kade for putting me on to all of his stuff.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 17, 2017, 01:25:24 PM
Ronnie Romero.

Yeah, very much looking forward to that one.

For me, Freefall and Allen/Lande are god-tier.  Everything else after that is between A and A-.  Planet Alliance is excellent - helps I'm a big Mike Andersson fanboi.  Uber-thanks to Kade for putting me on to all of his stuff.

Me too. And yes, the Somerville Kiske was a bit of a shocker in an otherwise excellent catalogue. But I'm not a fan of Kiske's voice to start with. Starbreaker too of course  :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on March 17, 2017, 03:54:32 PM
 :corn
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Post by: wolfking on March 17, 2017, 04:17:37 PM
Ronnie Romero.

Yeah, very much looking forward to that one.

For me, Freefall and Allen/Lande are god-tier.  Everything else after that is between A and A-.  Planet Alliance is excellent - helps I'm a big Mike Andersson fanboi.  Uber-thanks to Kade for putting me on to all of his stuff.

 :tup


Ronnie Romero.

Yeah, very much looking forward to that one.

For me, Freefall and Allen/Lande are god-tier.  Everything else after that is between A and A-.  Planet Alliance is excellent - helps I'm a big Mike Andersson fanboi.  Uber-thanks to Kade for putting me on to all of his stuff.

Me too. And yes, the Somerville Kiske was a bit of a shocker in an otherwise excellent catalogue. But I'm not a fan of Kiske's voice to start with. Starbreaker too of course  :biggrin:

I'm listening to the second Kiske/Somerville album this morning.  It's a good album, just you can tell Magnus did an Martensson and just threw something together cause he had too.  Starbreaker is excellent Paul.  The second one is so much different but still great.  The debut is fucking where it's at though.  I'd almost rate that one as high as Allen/Lande.

I pretty much like everything he has done though.  ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on March 18, 2017, 05:51:57 AM
:corn

Ok, I was baiting you a bit...
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Post by: Big Hath on March 18, 2017, 10:56:31 AM
 :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 18, 2017, 01:41:42 PM
Ha don't mess with Kiske!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 20, 2017, 11:34:41 AM
New Harem Scarem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkFPM24l-ZE

Solid.  Typical.  Unspectacular.

It's still an instant buy for me.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 20, 2017, 07:50:45 PM
New Harem Scarem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkFPM24l-ZE

Solid.  Typical.  Unspectacular.

It's still an instant buy for me.

Yeah - nothing too exciting but at least the riff has a bit of it's own thing going and the production sounds spot on.    I was a massive fan back in the day but haven't bought anything since Weight Of The World.  FOr me they became inconsistent from Big Bang Theory onward - thought that album sucked - and I haven't been as interested in new material since.   Will get this one.........get the feeling it'll be pretty good.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 20, 2017, 08:37:35 PM
I think its pretty solid too.  Riff is cool.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on March 21, 2017, 02:32:50 AM
New Harem Scarem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkFPM24l-ZE

Solid.  Typical.  Unspectacular.

It's still an instant buy for me.

Yeah - nothing too exciting but at least the riff has a bit of it's own thing going and the production sounds spot on.    I was a massive fan back in the day but haven't bought anything since Weight Of The World.  FOr me they became inconsistent from Big Bang Theory onward - thought that album sucked - and I haven't been as interested in new material since.   Will get this one.........get the feeling it'll be pretty good.

WOTW was my first HS album so I didn't have the whole Mood Swings thing to compare it to. I enjoyed WOTW and loved the next two. Then I went back and got the first two which are most excellent. Nothing they did in the period between MS and WOTW did anything for me at all.
The last three or so have been ok but very much to the formula of WOTW onwards.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on March 21, 2017, 05:27:34 AM
Let's all just forget that their period from Mood Swings to WOTW.  Everything in there is pretty shite.  And I refuse to acknowledge the existence of the Rubber years.  That load should've been kept in a rubber.   :lol

Overload was a bit of a blip, but everything else has been solid since 2002.  Thirteen was a pretty good one Brent.  I recommend spinning it when you have a free 45 minutes.
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Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2017, 06:14:27 AM
Nothing new from that Harem Scarem at all, but damn that chrous is fantastic.  A definite purchase for me.  Thirteen was a great short melodic rock record.  Every song was pretty strong and they didn't load it with filler.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 21, 2017, 06:17:35 AM
I think I may have streamed Thirteen - all very competent stuff but to me they seem to be writing a bit more according to a formula these days compared to the brilliance of early material.  I don't underestimate the difficulty of keeping things fresh over a long period of time with songwriting but I think they became a bit too comfortable with their process and to me a lot of the more recent songs blur into one another.  Sounds familiar.
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Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2017, 06:19:07 AM
I think I may have streamed Thirteen - all very competent stuff but to me they seem to be writing a bit more according to a formula these days compared to the brilliance of early material.  I don't underestimate the difficulty of keeping things fresh over a long period of time with songwriting but I think they became a bit too comfortable with their process and to me a lot of the more recent songs blur into one another.  Sounds familiar.

Pretty much.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 21, 2017, 02:08:10 PM
There is a formula certainly. Don't bore us, get to the chorus approach.
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Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2017, 03:51:04 PM
Even though they are sticking to a bit of a formula, they still have enough of a unique sound that's it's not your typical Frontiers rehash style stuff and still very enjoyable.
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Post by: Zook on March 21, 2017, 06:10:00 PM
I'm just waiting for more from The Magnificent.
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Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2017, 10:14:13 PM
I'm just waiting for more from The Magnificent.

Fuck yeah, melodic rock done right.  What a great album that is.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 21, 2017, 10:21:06 PM
I need to get that one. I didn't bother with it at the time, but listening back to a song recently, I realized it was really good.
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Post by: wolfking on March 22, 2017, 12:07:14 AM
I need to get that one. I didn't bother with it at the time, but listening back to a song recently, I realized it was really good.

It's a gem.  you'd definitely like it Blob.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 22, 2017, 11:36:46 AM
Even though they are sticking to a bit of a formula, they still have enough of a unique sound that's it's not your typical Frontiers rehash style stuff and still very enjoyable.

True. They have their own sound. You instantly know it's them.

Edit - just listened to the song. It's not setting my 🌎  on fire.
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Post by: TAC on March 24, 2017, 06:34:56 PM
So I have an actual contribution to the thread. And it hurts my fingers to even type it.

The fact that the new Place Vendome isn't that great should not be news. Their debut was fantastic, but they are one big tease. It's not the fact that the songs are not great, they aren't, but that isn't the problem with this album. The rrrr...the rea.... the real... the real prob... the real proble...

(https://m1ek.dahmus.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/fonzie-effusion21.jpg)


The real problem is Kiske. There I said it. He is terrible on this. He is singing like he has zero interest in this. Like he's fulfilling an obligation. There are a couple of tunes where he is totally into it, like Riding The Ghost, The Title track, and Breathless. But everything else is like he emailed them his first take, and Dennis Ward accepted it. His performance is generally lifeless and extremely disappointing.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 24, 2017, 06:52:38 PM
 :omg:
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 25, 2017, 05:30:28 AM
Jebus Christ!  Next thing you know, he'll be praising Midnight Driver of a Love Machine.  :lol

Although (and this is totally sincere), I commend you for putting aside your fanboi-ism to listen to something for what it is... not what you want it to be.   :tup

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Post by: Lowdz on March 25, 2017, 06:15:00 AM
(https://www.melodicrock.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_full_node/public/field/image/dirtywhiteboyz-downanddirty.jpg?itok=lSG81FZU)

This is worth a listen. Singer,/main man is Tony Mitchell from Kiss Of The Gypsy, a local band to me back in the day. In fact I first saw them on a photo shoot whilst I was walking the dog years ago. Only realised that when I saw the photo in Kerrang a little while later.
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Post by: TAC on March 25, 2017, 07:51:19 PM
Next thing you know, he'll be praising Midnight Driver of a Love Machine.  :lol

Whatever the hell that is! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 26, 2017, 04:29:27 AM
I haven't even had a listen to the Place Vendome yet.
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Post by: wolfking on March 26, 2017, 04:30:16 AM
Next thing you know, he'll be praising Midnight Driver of a Love Machine.  :lol

Whatever the hell that is! :lol

I could have bet everything that this would have been your response to that comment.  :lol  It's the first track of Winger's last album.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 26, 2017, 06:19:51 AM
Next thing you know, he'll be praising Midnight Driver of a Love Machine.  :lol

Whatever the hell that is! :lol

Well, since you asked - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tOzsssTtDU
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Post by: TAC on March 26, 2017, 06:27:27 AM
Next thing you know, he'll be praising Midnight Driver of a Love Machine.  :lol

Whatever the hell that is! :lol

I could have bet everything that this would have been your response to that comment.  :lol  It's the first track of Winger's last album.

 :lol

I had no idea.  And proud of it! :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 26, 2017, 09:45:12 PM
Next thing you know, he'll be praising Midnight Driver of a Love Machine.  :lol

Whatever the hell that is! :lol

Well, since you asked - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tOzsssTtDU

I thought it was going to be "Seventeen" again lol
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Post by: bl5150 on March 26, 2017, 09:58:20 PM
Tim cruising down the highway at midnight listening to Winger  :heart   :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 27, 2017, 02:17:16 AM
 :lol
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 27, 2017, 05:26:38 AM
Tim cruising down the highway at midnight listening to Winger  :heart   :metal

Giving 17-year olds the googly-eyes.  :eyebrows:
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Post by: wolfking on March 27, 2017, 05:58:48 AM
This King Company from last year is pretty decent. 
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 27, 2017, 06:52:50 AM
Tim cruising down the highway at midnight listening to Winger  :heart   :metal

Giving 17-year olds the googly-eyes.  :eyebrows:

It was from the pulp
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Post by: Lowdz on March 27, 2017, 12:59:22 PM
This King Company from last year is pretty decent.

Really liked it.
There's a new Brother Firetribe album out. Don't remember expecting it. First impression is that it's not as good as the first couple, but an ok listen.
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Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2017, 05:20:54 PM
This King Company from last year is pretty decent.

Really liked it.
There's a new Brother Firetribe album out. Don't remember expecting it. First impression is that it's not as good as the first couple, but an ok listen.

I sampled a new track from that Brother Firetribe and it was pretty soft for my liking at the moment.

That King Company is good and Brent playing Wheels of No Return in the first 2016 podcast made me pay attention.  That song just hits me for some reason.  One of the best songs I've heard in a while actually.
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Post by: TAC on March 28, 2017, 06:12:26 PM
Tim cruising down the highway at midnight listening to Winger  :heart   :metal

Giving 17-year olds the googly-eyes.  :eyebrows:

It was from the pulp


Jeesh you guys are a rough crowd. Here I am bearing my soul, and I get Wingered!  :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 28, 2017, 06:15:39 PM
I say we get Tim a personalized t-shirt with that phrase " I've been Wingered"
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Post by: TAC on March 28, 2017, 06:17:16 PM
I say we don't!  :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on March 28, 2017, 06:25:54 PM
 :lol

Good idea, the shirt would likely spontaneous combust the second it touches your skin
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Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2017, 09:00:31 PM
Tim cruising down the highway at midnight listening to Winger  :heart   :metal

Giving 17-year olds the googly-eyes.  :eyebrows:

It was from the pulp


Jeesh you guys are a rough crowd. Here I am bearing my soul, and I get Wingered!  :lol

That sounds exciting!!
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 28, 2017, 09:32:04 PM
Tim cruising down the highway at midnight listening to Winger  :heart   :metal

Giving 17-year olds the googly-eyes.  :eyebrows:

It was from the pulp


Jeesh you guys are a rough crowd. Here I am bearing my soul, and I get Wingered!  :lol

That sounds exciting!!

(https://www.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/designs/12504782,width=178,height=178/two-in-the-pink-one-for-the-stink.png)
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Post by: bl5150 on March 28, 2017, 10:31:14 PM
Sorta like being Rogered except.......  :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on April 10, 2017, 08:44:13 AM
Another new Harem Scarem track.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li7mOYvRo-4&feature=youtu.be


Rather snoozeworthy
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 10, 2017, 11:58:51 AM
I would classify it as a minor snooze fest, not a complete snooze fest
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Post by: TAC on April 10, 2017, 12:27:48 PM
Another new Harem Scarem track.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li7mOYvRo-4&feature=youtu.be


Rather snoozeworthy

WOW!! SHOCKING!!
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Post by: bl5150 on April 10, 2017, 06:07:34 PM
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/1eec1195a3c10871eb3db0ffe3c2776b/tumblr_mxxth6l95g1sgdbw4o1_250.gif)


Fwiw a wuss mate of mine went to see Blondie and Cyndi Lauper double bill on the weekend and said that Blondie won that battle of the titans  ;D
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 10, 2017, 07:41:00 PM
(https://replygif.net/i/478.gif)
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Post by: TAC on April 10, 2017, 07:53:54 PM
Listening to Haren Scarem...Zzzzz



Being attacked by the gif brothers...priceless.
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Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2017, 04:26:42 PM
Another new Harem Scarem track.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li7mOYvRo-4&feature=youtu.be


Rather snoozeworthy

Jesus, this is so bland compared to that first track.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2017, 04:54:24 PM
Going through some random stuff lately and I just finished listening to the second WET album.  Fuck it's shit.  Absolute crap.  I have such a low tolerance these days.  Thought it was under par compared to the first one but thought it was still decent, but it's not.  I use to kind of defend and find stuff to like about music from artists I really like but have come to the realization that my time is too important and if it's shit, it can fuck off.

Still haven't even listened to the new Eclipse or Place Vendome. 
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 11, 2017, 04:56:14 PM
If Tim didn't think much of that new Place Vendome, it's probably not worth it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2017, 05:02:22 PM
Momentum was solid.  Nothing new/spectacular from them, but solid none-the-less.
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Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2017, 05:06:39 PM
Momentum was solid.  Nothing new/spectacular from them, but solid none-the-less.

That's the thing, I will listen eventually and probably enjoy it.  But something really has to be special for it to stick these days.
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Post by: TAC on April 11, 2017, 05:21:40 PM
If Tim didn't think much of that new Place Vendome, it's probably not worth it.

Unless your a fan of someone in particular, it's not a great album, or performance.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2017, 06:25:25 PM
If Tim didn't think much of that new Place Vendome, it's probably not worth it.

Unless your a fan of someone in particular, it's not a great album, or performance.

Might try and have a listen tonight.  I really enjoyed all of the first 3 a lot but just sampling the songs, it sounds like something that will be a one listen and I won't have time for it again.  We'll see.
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Post by: TAC on April 11, 2017, 06:29:12 PM
My only connection would be Kiske, but other than a few spots, he really sounds bored. Like he's just collecting a paycheck and didn't bother with additional takes. At times, it seems the vocal lines are awkward.
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Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2017, 06:33:22 PM
My only connection would be Kiske, but other than a few spots, he really sounds bored. Like he's just collecting a paycheck and didn't bother with additional takes. At times, it seems the vocal lines are awkward.

Isn't that how Frontiers works these days?
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Post by: TAC on April 11, 2017, 06:37:50 PM
I wouldn't know!

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 11, 2017, 07:09:11 PM
I wouldn't know!

:neverusethis:

Then why do you keep coming back into this thread?  ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on April 11, 2017, 07:13:55 PM
I'm compiling a list of bands I wouldn't want to accidentally run into! ;D


Honestly, most of you guys in this thread are must read posts for me, no matter what the subject. :)
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2017, 04:07:26 AM
Momentum was solid.  Nothing new/spectacular from them, but solid none-the-less.

That's the thing, I will listen eventually and probably enjoy it.  But something really has to be special for it to stick these days.

I hear ya.  I'm the exact same way.  There's so much great music A) that I already have and don't listen to enough, and B) is being release, that I'm getting much more selective of what gets replay value.  Perhaps it's my old(ish) age, and I'm just getting all :getoffmylawn:, but if something doesn't rate a B+ or higher in my rating scale, I'm shelving.  In 2016 alone, I had 43 albums that made the cut, and 70ish that didn't.  Momentum ranked B+, so I'll spin it a few more times no doubt.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2017, 05:23:19 AM
Momentum was solid.  Nothing new/spectacular from them, but solid none-the-less.

That's the thing, I will listen eventually and probably enjoy it.  But something really has to be special for it to stick these days.

I hear ya.  I'm the exact same way.  There's so much great music A) that I already have and don't listen to enough, and B) is being release, that I'm getting much more selective of what gets replay value.  Perhaps it's my old(ish) age, and I'm just getting all :getoffmylawn:, but if something doesn't rate a B+ or higher in my rating scale, I'm shelving.  In 2016 alone, I had 43 albums that made the cut, and 70ish that didn't.  Momentum ranked B+, so I'll spin it a few more times no doubt.

Yeah, I hear ya mate.  I just don't have the patience these days to persist with a lot of stuff.  I could be missing out on a lot by not giving things enough attention that they deserve, but I've listened to enough music I think to know if something will have replay value or not.

Honestly, most of you guys in this thread are must read posts for me, no matter what the subject. :)


 :heart

*Insert Kip Winger fanboy comment here*
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2017, 06:17:37 AM

Yeah, I hear ya mate.  I just don't have the patience these days to persist with a lot of stuff.  I could be missing out on a lot by not giving things enough attention that they deserve, but I've listened to enough music I think to know if something will have replay value or not.


Exact-a-mundo.  I just don't have the time to give things repeated chances on the hopes that they 'click'.  I'll listen to a lot of things once, but if it doesn't at some level "wow" me, then I don't go back to it unless the gang here suggests otherwise.  For instance, Fractal Cypher last year didn't wow me... but on Brent's countdown, I was impressed.  So that will get a 2nd chance.  But, things like Unruly Child and Lionville - while enjoyable - were promptly discarded after 1 listen.  Sometimes I go against the grain (I really liked Hardline's release last year; Harem will be an auto-buy for me), but it's usually in those cases where I have a lot of history - and loyalty - with the band.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 12, 2017, 08:02:40 AM
Sounds like Wolf and Chad need a spreadsheet for their music listening
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2017, 08:40:14 AM
Sounds like Wolf and Chad need a spreadsheet for their music listening

I've got about 8 or 9.

Seriously.  Three that I actively work:

1 - AOTY rankings (been keeping track of it for the last 4 years - mostly so that I can remember what I listened to already and don't needlessly go back to it)
2 - dates for pending releases (I keep track of movies and concerts here too)
3 - Bands that I want to check out (this is a huge list)
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on April 12, 2017, 08:56:26 AM
I actually started a list of 2017 albums I've checked out. I want to see how it stacks up the Brent's Best Of 2017 Podcast.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 12, 2017, 11:38:04 AM
I actually started a list of 2017 albums I've checked out. I want to see how it stacks up the Brent's Best Of 2017 Podcast.

I tried that last year - probably checked out over 150 albums last year.  Not all of them got a full play... sometimes it only takes a song or two - or one stanza of growlies - to know that it's not for me.  I still ended up with 32 more to check out after Brent's best of podcasts.  :getoffmylawn:

After 3 months, I'm only at 22 albums (of 2017 releases).  Got slowed down with prep for ROSfest.

Back on topic... anyone checked out this one yet?

(https://metalrock.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/AGE-OF-REFLECTION-In-the-Heat-of-the-Night-2017-320.jpg)

Solid, SOLID melodic rock.  I think one of you bastards might've posted about this one somewhere.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 12, 2017, 04:48:24 PM
Sounds like Wolf and Chad need a spreadsheet for their music listening

Way too much work j.  ;D

Never heard of Age of Reflection.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on April 13, 2017, 03:05:52 AM
In The Heat of The Night has to be about the most cliched title in the history of AOR so I can't imagine the music to be any more inspired than the title choice.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2017, 03:26:05 AM
"Solid" has become the joking term in this thread for more of the same predictable dross but not bad enough to be called "shite"  :lol

I do recall sampling that one but that's it.  I'm sure it's very listenable but like most here if it doesn't wow me I don't hang around long these days.  I am starting to wonder whether I might have a year off new releases altogether to be honest.  I have many hundreds of bands/albums already that I have set aside to check out properly (based on positive sampling) and yet I keep sampling more with far less chance of success .
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 13, 2017, 03:36:14 AM
"Solid" has become the joking term in this thread for more of the same predictable dross but not bad enough to be called "shite"  :lol

Nah, solid's not a bad thing, it means it's consistently good. If something's shit, we just call it shit here. :lol
I checked out a track on Youtube, and it sounded like everything else though. Didn't do it for me.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on April 13, 2017, 03:54:46 AM
Another new Harem Scarem track.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li7mOYvRo-4&feature=youtu.be


Rather snoozeworthy

WOW!! SHOCKING!!

I hate it already because it's called "United" and as a Liverpool fan I can't stand anything United related.  >:(
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 13, 2017, 05:15:31 AM
"Solid" has become the joking term in this thread for more of the same predictable dross but not bad enough to be called "shite"  :lol

Nah, solid's not a bad thing, it means it's consistently good. If something's shit, we just call it shit here. :lol

Agreed... on my scale it goes

Tripe
Meh
Enjoyable
Needs a 2nd chance
Solid
Spotify-worthy
Purchase-worthy
AOTY contender
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2017, 05:18:34 AM
I was only being half serious - a couple of us WERE using "solid" as a joking term for the usual rubbish with a smiley a while back .

And by the "usual rubbish"/"more of the same" I mean pretty much what you guys are saying anyway - an album chock full of stuff that is "good" but totally not memorable.  The sort of stuff that is everywhere you look at the moment.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 13, 2017, 05:20:08 AM
I was only being half serious - a couple of us WERE using "solid" as a joking term for the usual rubbish with a smiley a while back .

And by the "usual rubbish"/"more of the same" I mean pretty much what you guys are saying anyway - an album chock full of stuff that is "good" but totally not memorable.

Totally fair.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2017, 05:45:24 AM
I was only being half serious - a couple of us WERE using "solid" as a joking term for the usual rubbish with a smiley a while back .

And by the "usual rubbish"/"more of the same" I mean pretty much what you guys are saying anyway - an album chock full of stuff that is "good" but totally not memorable.  The sort of stuff that is everywhere you look at the moment.

I got your back mate.  :tup

I am starting to wonder whether I might have a year off new releases altogether to be honest.  I have many hundreds of bands/albums already that I have set aside to check out properly (based on positive sampling) and yet I keep sampling more with far less chance of success .

This is a big fucking call, but not totally unreasonable or shocking to be honest.  As I said, stuff like the Place Vendome and Eclipse I haven't even sampled which I'd normally be all over.  I'm more enjoying going back through lots of gems that I already have that have been glossed over unfairly in my time.

My only problem though Brent is if you stop sampling, that's less podcasts!  ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2017, 05:52:11 AM
Not necessarily Kade - the way my life is at the moment there's other reasons that may interfere , but not a lack of sampling new releases.

I have literally thousands of albums that I either have here and haven't listened to - or I have them in a list to follow up on in more detail..............the odds of sampling that lot are much higher than random new releases so I would likely discover more gems to share in the time spent than what I am doing currently.

I dunno.........I probably won't be able to help myself with the new stuff but it might mean that a lot of stuff I have set aside after liking the samples might never be revisited.  Only so much time  :-\
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2017, 05:56:14 AM
I dunno.........I probably won't be able to help myself with the new stuff but it might mean that a lot of stuff I have set aside after liking the samples might never be revisited.  Only so much time  :-\

I can agree with this too mate. Lots of stuff I'll listen to and think "Yeah, that's cool, I need to check that out," but I just never do, and seems like a waste of time checking it out in the first place.  Time is the obvious key factor here.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 13, 2017, 06:03:03 AM
The list of unlistened to things that I seem to be compiling the most is back catalogs of bands when I did discover something amazing from them - case in point... Heaven Below.  Good Morning Apocalypse was amazing, and there's a few back-releases I want to check out.  Yet, I seem to keep getting drawn into new bands and/or new releases.

If we just had the willpower to limit new releases to the bands we already know.  But - as you said Brent - I don't think I can help myself.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on April 13, 2017, 06:22:03 AM
https://bravewords.com/news/original-autograph-drummer-keni-richards-passes-at-age-60

Wow. Too young.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on April 13, 2017, 01:43:23 PM
I was only being half serious - a couple of us WERE using "solid" as a joking term for the usual rubbish with a smiley a while back .

And by the "usual rubbish"/"more of the same" I mean pretty much what you guys are saying anyway - an album chock full of stuff that is "good" but totally not memorable.  The sort of stuff that is everywhere you look at the moment.

Frontiers recent output can be categorised as Solid. Ordinary. Shit 😀
But ordinary has to be said with an Aussie accent, preferably Shane Warne's 😀
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2017, 04:14:06 PM
I was only being half serious - a couple of us WERE using "solid" as a joking term for the usual rubbish with a smiley a while back .

And by the "usual rubbish"/"more of the same" I mean pretty much what you guys are saying anyway - an album chock full of stuff that is "good" but totally not memorable.  The sort of stuff that is everywhere you look at the moment.

Frontiers recent output can be categorised as Solid. Ordinary. Shit 😀
But ordinary has to be said with an Aussie accent, preferably Shane Warne's 😀

Fucking legend Warnie.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 21, 2017, 06:14:38 AM
I've given a first listen to the new Crazy Lixx album. Not quite as hard rockin' as the last one, and the songs haven't really jumped out at me yet. There's nothing to dislike about it though, and Hunter of the Heart is a cool song. Gonna give it more listens.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on April 21, 2017, 11:10:39 AM
I've given a first listen to the new Crazy Lixx album. Not quite as hard rockin' as the last one, and the songs haven't really jumped out at me yet. There's nothing to dislike about it though, and Hunter of the Heart is a cool song. Gonna give it more listens.

I liked it. Hunter sounds like an Electric Boys song off Funkometal Carpetride.
It's not going to dethrone New Religion, but it's sounds as good as anything else they've done.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 21, 2017, 12:17:47 PM
I've given a first listen to the new Crazy Lixx album. Not quite as hard rockin' as the last one, and the songs haven't really jumped out at me yet. There's nothing to dislike about it though, and Hunter of the Heart is a cool song. Gonna give it more listens.

I liked it. Hunter sounds like an Electric Boys song off Funkometal Carpetride.
It's not going to dethrone New Religion, but it's sounds as good as anything else they've done.

Already enjoying it more on second listen. I don't know that it will top New Religion or the S/T for me, but it's definitely better than the rest.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2017, 03:21:09 PM
Sounds like a decent continuation from the last one from the couple of tracks I've heard.  Look forward to checking it out.  Didn't know the release date, will have to chuck it in the 2017 release date thread.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 25, 2017, 07:40:31 PM
Frontiers.....just WTF?!!?  :rollin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygnPb7gmR-0
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 25, 2017, 07:55:04 PM
Turned it off after 30 seconds
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 25, 2017, 10:55:38 PM
I'd say there should be a forced retirement age on Frontiers musicians, but then they'd have nothing.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on April 26, 2017, 05:50:16 AM
FMD - the dude from Warrior.  Gotta love those moves - you gave up too soon JJ :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2017, 06:15:37 AM
FMD - the dude from Warrior.  Gotta love those moves - you gave up too soon JJ :lol

The lyrics are just fucking horrid.  The whole thing is fucking horrid.  Just ugh!!!

And the name, Radiation Romeos?!  What the fucking fuck?!

It's almost like American country, but worse.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Big Hath on April 26, 2017, 08:51:01 AM
I will say that the woman that appears at about 1:20 seems to have a great personality
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on April 26, 2017, 04:27:29 PM
Frontiers.....just WTF?!!?  :rollin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygnPb7gmR-0

I knew what this was before I clicked on it. Watched it yesterday and was coming here to post the death knell of Frontiers. Total shite. Video made it sound even worse.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 26, 2017, 05:21:21 PM
I pretty much refuse to listen to anything that Frontiers cobbles together unless it's A+ names - The Ferrymen being the only "new" thing from them that I have any interest in. Unless it's a band I already know and adore (eg, Hardline), it's an instant pass from me.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on April 26, 2017, 05:29:06 PM
I actually didn't think the song was that bad. :lol


How f'n old are those dudes though??

I will say that the woman that appears at about 1:20 seems to have a great personality
Yeah, her performance in this video was outstanding.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2017, 05:40:44 PM
I actually didn't think the song was that bad. :lol

What the fuck are you doing in this thread anyway!?
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on April 26, 2017, 05:42:08 PM
I'm doing this totally wrong aren't I? :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2017, 05:47:05 PM
I'm doing this totally wrong aren't I? :lol

 :facepalm:

So, you thought that tripe was okay, but Winger, don't go there hey?  :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on April 26, 2017, 05:59:17 PM
Even though I know better, I stick my nose into this thread. I heard a lot of crap, and well, the Radiation Romeos ( :facepalm: :rollin) really wasn't any worse than I heard here. I've shut off many videos quicker than this one.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2017, 06:22:52 PM
Even though I know better, I stick my nose into this thread. I heard a lot of crap, and well, the Radiation Romeos ( :facepalm: :rollin) really wasn't any worse than I heard here. I've shut off many videos quicker than this one.

Keep coming in, my thread is dying along with the genre.  It's just got a faint pulse.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 26, 2017, 10:27:54 PM
We just have to find sources other than Frontiers for some decent Melodic Rock.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2017, 06:52:44 AM
We just have to find sources other than Frontiers for some decent Melodic Rock.

But they have kidnapped every other label, tied them all up and have them all down in the Frontiers basement.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 28, 2017, 04:39:14 AM
New Jorn track-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6YGC2BinPg

I'm not a fan of the spoken phrasing style of the vocals, but definitely a step up from his recent material. It sounds Dio inspired to me, which I like. I'm hoping the album is a good mix of Dio and Whitesnake, the things that Jorn is best at. :lol :metal

And it's already growing on me on second listen. This album is going to rock.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 28, 2017, 04:55:55 AM
Not the worst thing Jorn has done under his name in the last few albums.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 28, 2017, 10:08:33 AM
I really like that song and the lyrics too.

But if Jorn is talking about his love of the 80's, it would have been cool if he mentioned Alf in one of the verses.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: BlobVanDam on April 28, 2017, 10:09:24 AM
:rollin And The A-Team and Wrestlemania and the Rocky movies.

The music video had a Delorean in it. I'm satisfied.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on April 28, 2017, 02:31:37 PM
Oh god. That was not very good. Are we so starved of any quality that that is seen as decent?
I hope there is better on the album because that's not doing it for me.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Podaar on April 28, 2017, 02:43:29 PM
"Man of the eighties, with his dream specs oooooooooooon1"

 :facepalm:  :rollin
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2017, 04:49:01 PM
I'm with Paul, I'm a huge Jorn fan, but that was just shit.  So disappointing!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on April 28, 2017, 06:11:57 PM
I really like that song and the lyrics too.

But if Jorn is talking about his love of the 80's, it would have been cool if he mentioned Alf in one of the verses.

No shit! :lol

Mother f'n Theresa?? WTF.

I shut it off and watched the Radiation Romeos again.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on April 29, 2017, 05:31:38 AM
New Heaven's Fire (band that Darren Smith used to front). 

https://soundcloud.com/heavens-fire-official/the-real-world-1

Diggin it.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on April 29, 2017, 06:05:15 AM
I really like that song and the lyrics too.

But if Jorn is talking about his love of the 80's, it would have been cool if he mentioned Alf in one of the verses.

No shit! :lol

Mother f'n Theresa?? WTF.

I shut it off and watched the Radiation Romeos again.

Who would have thought the lyrics 'driving in my red corvette' or whatever the fuck he says in that piece of shit is better than what Jorn can dish out?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on April 29, 2017, 07:19:57 AM
It's way better than that new hunk of junk Adrenaline Mob song!  But Tim can let us know which is blow worthy.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on April 29, 2017, 08:11:22 AM
They're all blow worthy!!

But that A-Mob tune is just insulting to any self respecting metal fan.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 01, 2017, 01:49:43 PM
As if Frontiers wasn't already laughable, this band name and album title have got to take the cake.

(https://scontent.fcxh1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/18118539_1371378242918223_4024294645758827475_n.jpg?oh=3ab8900c9adf5d13e6bd217dfecf4b3a&oe=598F1864)

FEATURING TERRY BROCK, ROBERT BERRY, GARY PIHL, MATT STARR
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on May 01, 2017, 04:24:08 PM
More Del Vecchio bollocks.
And stealing the Alias album cover? Shameless.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Zook on May 01, 2017, 05:16:24 PM
As if Frontiers wasn't already laughable, this band name and album title have got to take the cake.

(https://scontent.fcxh1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/18118539_1371378242918223_4024294645758827475_n.jpg?oh=3ab8900c9adf5d13e6bd217dfecf4b3a&oe=598F1864)

FEATURING TERRY BROCK, ROBERT BERRY, GARY PIHL, MATT STARR

Are they all 41 years old?
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2017, 05:19:38 PM
Frontiers strikes again!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTZfOxFGA1Y
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Zook on May 01, 2017, 05:21:39 PM
Frontiers strikes again!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTZfOxFGA1Y

Judging by this, they are NOT all 41 years old. Clearly.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2017, 05:24:43 PM
Frontiers strikes again!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTZfOxFGA1Y

Judging by this, they are NOT all 41 years old. Clearly.

Thought the exact same thing when I posted it.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on May 01, 2017, 07:13:25 PM
Terry Brock sounds like he smoked all 41 joints at the same time.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2017, 06:05:21 AM
Terry Brock sounds like he smoked all 41 joints at the same time.

Yeah, he's super chill.  He probably needed that many joints to do this project.

Didn't dig the one he did with Jon Roth.  There was so potential in there, but not enough to sift through the shit.  The guitar was great obviously from Jon.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 02, 2017, 08:07:53 AM
Terry Brock sounds like he smoked all 41 joints at the same time.

No shit!  You can see him smackin his lips looking off camera like "is there cheese on that burger?" :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on May 02, 2017, 10:46:36 AM
The only album I love with Terry Brock is the one Phantoms Opera album he did.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 02, 2017, 04:05:30 PM
I wish he'd take that stupid hat off.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 12, 2017, 05:45:20 AM
How did we let this get to page 2!?!?!?

New Jorn - https://youtu.be/t1p4X2mGPVQ

Better than the last.  I'm still cautiously optimistic... at the very least, this should be better than his past few turds.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 12, 2017, 12:14:13 PM
I thought that was a very good song.  It was better than the first single, which kind of went overboard on the 80s references.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 12, 2017, 03:08:25 PM
I thought the chorus was pretty underwhelming and nothing really stood out besides Gus' guitar solo.  Still interested to hear the whole thing.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on May 15, 2017, 06:26:12 PM
New song! :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIu4ghn9Mus
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 15, 2017, 08:30:28 PM
Much better than the first one, but the vocals are just shit and ruin it IMO.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on May 15, 2017, 08:33:51 PM
Well, I was being facetious, but yeah, the music was actually OK.

I still can't get over the band's name.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 16, 2017, 05:08:12 AM
Del Vecchio came up with the name while he was taking a shit.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 16, 2017, 05:23:58 AM
Fuck, I found another one;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83vSl1SbRvQ

This album has the potential to be the worst album of all time.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 16, 2017, 09:06:01 AM
Kade if you confirm it's the worst album ever you need to do a review that will surpass your Frequency Unknown review
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 16, 2017, 10:58:35 AM
Kade if you confirm it's the worst album ever you need to do a review that will surpass your Frequency Unknown review

(https://replygif.net/i/945.gif)
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 16, 2017, 11:16:20 AM
 :rollin
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on May 16, 2017, 02:18:05 PM
Well, I was being facetious, but yeah, the music was actually OK.

I still can't get over the band's name.

The name is a line from the title track of the Atomic Playboys album the singer did with Steve Stevens many moons ago when he was still alive  :biggrin:
It does sound like it came straight from the Frontiers Big Book of Project Names though.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 16, 2017, 07:08:26 PM
Kade if you confirm it's the worst album ever you need to do a review that will surpass your Frequency Unknown review

Kade if you confirm it's the worst album ever you need to do a review that will surpass your Frequency Unknown review

(https://replygif.net/i/945.gif)

I don't know if I can top that, but I always love a good challenge.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 16, 2017, 08:01:44 PM
Every few months, I think back to that post - it brings a warmth to my soul and a smile to my cheeks.  Quite easily one of my most favorite posts ever.  Page 11 of the "unofficial" Queensryche thread.  Gold I tell ya ... GOLD!

Seriously, it's worth the re-read.  https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=36090.msg1565339#msg1565339

Kade.... even if this was your one and only post, you belong in the DTF hall of fame.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 17, 2017, 02:10:23 AM
One of the best reviews ever!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2017, 05:49:34 AM
I feel so special guys, seriously, cheers.  I wrote the thing while listening off the top of my head, pure emotion.  I didn't think it would go down like it did, but glad you guys loved it so much.

EDIT:  Having a read know, I was so fired up that first line doesn't even make sense hahaha!!

EDIT 2: Man, lots of grammer errors in this, which isn't like me, I was very angry.  A couple of quotes I like even though there are errors;

I gave Geoff the benefit of the doubt and tried to show him some love, but his shitting on me, or should I say spitting on me again.

I think I might throw my copy of FU at some clown walking down the street tomorrow for laughs.

haha.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on May 17, 2017, 12:35:43 PM
Can't argue with any of it either. You weren't harsh enough 😀
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2017, 07:12:25 PM
Can't argue with any of it either. You weren't harsh enough 😀

I thought that too when I reread it.  :hat
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on May 20, 2017, 08:08:45 AM
Those of you who thought Frontiers had hit rock bottom in terms of band names with Radiation Romeos..............think again.


The new band formed by Kee Marcello and Tommy Heart will be called............................Kee of Hearts  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 20, 2017, 03:52:11 PM
Not a good name
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 20, 2017, 06:04:46 PM
It could've been worse .... Cello Heart.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on May 20, 2017, 06:38:34 PM
Those of you who thought Frontiers had hit rock bottom in terms of band names with Radiation Romeos..............think again.


The new band formed by Kee Marcello and Tommy Heart will be called............................Kee of Hearts  :facepalm:

I saw that. So bad.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 21, 2017, 05:29:56 AM
I immediately dismiss anything from Frontiers that isn't something already established - unless it's got Magnus Karlsson involved (eg, The Ferrymen).  Otherwise, I'm only stick to what I know ... and even then it's a crap shoot.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 21, 2017, 05:53:00 AM
I just googled the word 'kee' as I thought it must have been an actual word I've just never heard of.  From what I can gather it's a noun and 'kie' 'ky' and 'kine' seem to be alternatives.

Ky is an abreviation of Kentucky, but kine and kie seem to be a plural of cow. 

Kee could also be an acronym, but I don't think so.  It could just be a play of the word 'key' perhaps.  Or did they think kee somehow rhymed with queen, which it doesn't.

Hmm....I so, I'm trying here, and looking to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I'm struggling and still not understanding how this works into the title of that stupid, moronic, childish, demented, toilet flushing excuse for a fucking band name.  Did someone actually think that that was fucking clever??
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 21, 2017, 06:13:16 AM
Hmm....I so, I'm trying here, and looking to give them the benefit of the doubt,

See, that's where things go off the rails for you.   :D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 21, 2017, 07:00:39 AM
Hmm....I so, I'm trying here, and looking to give them the benefit of the doubt,

See, that's where things go off the rails for you.   :D

I will never learn.  :mehlin
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on May 21, 2017, 01:58:54 PM
, but kine and kie seem to be a plural of cow. 

Hmm...and I've been using the word "cows" my entire life.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 21, 2017, 06:14:54 PM
, but kine and kie seem to be a plural of cow. 

Hmm...and I've been using the word "cows" my entire life.

I know right!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 23, 2017, 06:30:02 AM
The lolz keep coming...

(https://scontent.fcxh1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18620096_1397935890262458_698519094132939541_n.jpg?oh=6115962eb5b7ec8c72bbd333cb410933&oe=59A85186)

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Sometimes musicians are put together who only know each other from afar via their respective recordings, but something clicks and triggers a magical moment. That's exactly what happened when Jakob Samuel from The Poodles met up with producer Alessandro Del Vecchio on the heels of a concept created by Frontiers President Serafino Perugino. Together, they set off to work on a new band that could offer lyrical concepts that are deep and intelligent with music that operates within the genres they excel in. And most importantly, has a great energy and impact.

Together with executive producer Serafino Perugino, they handpicked each musician to be part of their vision for a strong lineup of young and hungry Swedish musicians that would be ready to go out there and kick some ass. Pontus Egberg, formerly of The Poodles and now the bass player for King Diamond and Treat, was the first one to enter the picture, followed shortly thereafter by Robban Back of Mustasch (and ex-Eclipse (Sweden)). The choice of guitar player fell to the young and immensely gifted Mike Palace. Mike showed his huge talents as a writer and performer on his band Palaces debut album and on several songs he has already written for the label.

On paper, this doesn't sound bad; the cover and name though...  ::)  I just sampled some of the Palace... on first listen of track 1, it was uninspired powder puff Melodic Rock.  Standard fare for Frontiers these days. 
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on May 23, 2017, 06:36:17 AM
Palace was one of their better releases last year IMO - I featured one of the better songs in the 2016 "Best of the Rest." .   Sounds like a decent lineup but I can't think of the last one of these "projects" where the quality of music matched that of the names.  They just don't write and collaborate like they used to.   It'll be ADV writing the vast majority , the others adding a few touches here and there , most likely done over email etc.....

It works occasionally (the first Place Vendome was done like that) but it's rare.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 23, 2017, 08:34:47 AM
Yeah, I thought you had them on the 2016 podcast.  I sampled the first 3 tracks a while back, and it clearly wasn't that memorable!  After listening to the whole album, it mildly improved my impression of it.

Not expecting much... as I said, on paper (screen?) it looks good.  In practice, not likely.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on May 23, 2017, 02:25:44 PM
Posted it in the hard rock page. Not excited at all. Will be decent performances but the same old boring songs.
There must be better stuff out there. It's like whenever I see some shitty sci-fi or fantasy movie and I know there are hundreds of books out there that would make great films and still they make the same shit over and over.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on May 23, 2017, 05:25:33 PM
It's not melodic rock but I have an interesting, rare prog/power concept album coming up as a feature album in the next podcast.  I would be surprised if anyone has heard of them and it's one of maybe half a dozen concept albums that I give a shit about.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 23, 2017, 05:43:09 PM
It's not melodic rock but I have an interesting, rare prog/power concept album coming up as a feature album in the next podcast.  I would be surprised if anyone has heard of them and it's one of maybe half a dozen concept albums that I give a shit about.

Giggity.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on May 23, 2017, 06:16:38 PM
The EPK for Kryptonite:   https://youtu.be/G28qAPjZSVc

most likely done over email etc.....





Funnily enough (given what I said above) the first thing Jakob says is that they're catching up for the first time to shoot the video  :lol   There's enough in there to get a feel for what it will sound like.  I will go out on a limb and predict it'll be "solid"  ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 05:30:07 AM
That's just the way it's done these days, for Frontiers anyway at least.  The Ferryman EPK the guys said the same thing, that met each other that very day for the video clips! 

I couldn't be bothered checking out that EPK to be honest at the moment.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 05:33:54 AM
I watched for a minute then turned it off.

Hey Mike Palace, Vinnie Moore from 1988 called and he wants his fucking hair back!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 08:57:19 AM
I watched for a minute then turned it off.

Hey Mike Palace, Vinnie Moore from 1988 called and he wants his fucking hair back!

Vinnie Moore is also running out of shrimp
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on May 24, 2017, 03:42:36 PM
The EPK for Kryptonite:   https://youtu.be/G28qAPjZSVc

That f'n blows! WTF is that?

Even if I was interested in this project, that video would piss me off so bad, I'd skip it totally. Who are these people? They look like the band in School Of Rock that beat the kids at the Battle Of The Bands.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 06:35:51 PM
The EPK for Kryptonite:   https://youtu.be/G28qAPjZSVc

That f'n blows! WTF is that?

Even if I was interested in this project, that video would piss me off so bad, I'd skip it totally. Who are these people? They look like the band in School Of Rock that beat the kids at the Battle Of The Bands.

The singer is from The Poodles, not that that makes any difference to you Tim.

I watched for a minute then turned it off.

Hey Mike Palace, Vinnie Moore from 1988 called and he wants his fucking hair back!

Vinnie Moore is also running out of shrimp

This Kryptonite album might become the jerk stores all time best seller.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 06:38:34 PM
But the Kryptonite album slept with your wife!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on May 24, 2017, 06:47:06 PM
The singer is from The Poodles, not that that makes any difference to you Tim.

What, was The Puppies already taken?


Nothing screams rock n roll like The Poodles!


"Ladies and gentlemen, would you please welcome from England...The Poodles!"

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2Vj9qZxAG_I/hqdefault.jpg)(https://images.incuboom.com/global/images/article/Poodle_plays.JPG)


Look, even Lemmy banged 'em!

(https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/bass-guitars-replaced-with-rock-doggos-20-photos-212.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=600)
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on May 24, 2017, 06:51:23 PM
Haha - as soon as Kade posted about The Poodles I was  :impatient:

You exceeded expectations though Tim  ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 06:52:18 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 06:52:40 PM
But the Kryptonite album slept with your wife!

Vinnie Moore put my wife in a coma.


Haha - as soon as Kade posted about The Poodles I was  :impatient:

You exceeded expectations though Tim  ;D


Absolutely.  Mission accomplished!!!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on May 24, 2017, 06:54:54 PM
Hey, anytime, guys! :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 07:22:48 PM
More goodness.  All 41;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnLNLCKNIi4

It's softer than my dick in a gay club but for the style, it's not too bad considering what they have been dishing up, but generic as fuck.  Brock has a great voice.  Better than that Romeo horseshit!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on May 24, 2017, 07:30:07 PM
Seriously, let's just reissue the Village People discography.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 07:32:29 PM
Seriously, let's just reissue the Village People discography.

Tim's on fire today.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2017, 07:34:23 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Village_People

The Village People had 9 studio albums!? Fuck, never would have guessed that.  Their last album is apparently called Sex Over the Phone, that sounds great.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on May 24, 2017, 07:40:50 PM
Probably better than anything else linked on this page! :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 07:52:06 PM
Let's get back to the rock boys!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on May 24, 2017, 07:53:16 PM
Let's get back to the rock boys!

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42370.7525
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 24, 2017, 07:55:37 PM
Let's get back to the rock boys!

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42370.7525

It doesn't matter what thread it is, let's get back to the rock!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 25, 2017, 06:38:36 AM
Let's get back to the rock boys!

Relevant - https://youtu.be/GlN3oEjMpUQ?t=50
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 25, 2017, 07:18:11 AM
 :rollin
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 25, 2017, 07:27:56 AM
Let's get back to the rock boys!

https://youtu.be/e4Ao-iNPPUc (https://youtu.be/e4Ao-iNPPUc)
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on May 25, 2017, 07:42:28 AM
Let's get back to the rock boys!

Relevant - https://youtu.be/GlN3oEjMpUQ?t=50

Like the comment underneath - "Tell you what , that bitch is 43 now"  :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2017, 06:53:31 AM
Let's get back to the rock boys!

Relevant - https://youtu.be/GlN3oEjMpUQ?t=50

 :hat
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2017, 06:56:11 AM
Hmmm.....well at least this one has a bit of energy.  Perhaps it won't be the worst album of all time.  I'm kind of disappointed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuvbbgCNB3k
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2017, 06:58:50 AM
Hmmm.....well at least this one has a bit of energy.  Perhaps it won't be the worst album of all time.  I'm kind of disappointed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuvbbgCNB3k

A bit of energy but they are trying to ripoff Atomic Playboys/Steve Stevens something fierce.  Even the pick down the strings at the start is a lame ass attempt at Steve Stevens.

Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on May 26, 2017, 06:59:47 AM
Umm..TAC, who knows nothing of anything going on in this thread has said from the start that they really aren't that bad.

If I totally ignore the band name, videos, lyrics, and anything associated visually, that is.  :lol

"Some will say it's noise pollution.
I play the rock, it turns me on"

 :rollin
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2017, 07:01:04 AM
Back to the metal thread for you Tim - what turns you on is over there  ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2017, 07:04:25 AM
Hmmm.....well at least this one has a bit of energy.  Perhaps it won't be the worst album of all time.  I'm kind of disappointed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuvbbgCNB3k

A bit of energy but they are trying to ripoff Atomic Playboys/Steve Stevens something fierce.  Even the pick down the strings at the start is a lame ass attempt at Steve Stevens.

I thought the actual solos were actually very cool.  Very generic and one dimensional but I don't mind it if I'm being honest......... :blush
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2017, 07:07:21 AM
Very generic and one dimensional but cool.   

Alrighty then Mr Delvecchio  ;D

I'll admit that there's worse out there for sure but that says more about what's out there.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2017, 07:16:57 AM
Very generic and one dimensional but cool.   

Alrighty then Mr Delvecchio  ;D

I'll admit that there's worse out there for sure but that says more about what's out there.

(https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/emsw.gif)
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 26, 2017, 07:25:17 AM
Not the worst song at all.  I would say its 100x better than that Adrenaline Mob King of the Ring song, maybe even 1000x.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2017, 07:28:40 AM
Not the worst song at all.  I would say its 100x better than that Adrenaline Mob King of the Ring song, maybe even 1000x.

See Brent, take that!!

Brent, would like to know your thoughts on the Night Flight Orchestra song in the hard rock thread that MrBoom posted.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2017, 07:29:15 AM
I would say its 100x better than that Adrenaline Mob King of the Ring song, maybe even 1000x.

Not saying much either  ;D  I finally checked that out today and like you Jay I turned it off well before the end.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2017, 07:30:00 AM
Yeah, the AMob sure is sounding like a stinker.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on May 26, 2017, 07:31:50 AM
Yeah, the AMob sure is sounding like a stinker.

It blows
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2017, 07:33:03 AM

Brent, would like to know your thoughts on the Night Flight Orchestra song in the hard rock thread that MrBoom posted.

I've been a fan of theirs for a while - submitted them in my first DTF roulette.

I think that song is fine - I prefer them when they're a bit more adventurous/progressive but yeah............they're one of the few retro bands that manages to pull it off while still having some fresh ideas in there.

Like the Survivor beret too  ;D


Yeah, the AMob sure is sounding like a stinker.

It blows

AND sucks.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2017, 07:35:23 AM

Brent, would like to know your thoughts on the Night Flight Orchestra song in the hard rock thread that MrBoom posted.

I've been a fan of theirs for a while - submitted them in my first DTF roulette.

I think that song is fine - I prefer them when they're a bit more adventurous/progressive but yeah............they're one of the few retro bands that manages to pull it off while still having some fresh ideas in there.

Like the Survivor beret too  ;D


Yeah, the AMob sure is sounding like a stinker.

It blows

AND sucks.

Yeah, I remember you mentioning you liked them when I posted one of the first songs from the album.  I see JB seem to have it in stock, I'm going to pick it up.

Now, let's see how I can get you on to the other band that the singer and guitarist are in......hmm..... :justjen
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on May 26, 2017, 07:38:02 AM

Now, let's see how I can get you on to the other band that the singer and guitarist are in......hmm..... :justjen

I don't mind the song Exile  :)   - but yeah..........not really my cuppa tea.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 26, 2017, 10:00:08 AM
Not the worst song at all.  I would say its 100x better than that Adrenaline Mob King of the Ring song, maybe even 1000x.

100 times zero is still zero.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2017, 04:34:04 PM

Now, let's see how I can get you on to the other band that the singer and guitarist are in......hmm..... :justjen

I don't mind the song Exile  :)   - but yeah..........not really my cuppa tea.

That's a good one.  That's rated as their worst record, but that song is a fair representation of what they are doing lately.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2017, 04:37:46 PM
So the first song they release from the new Ten is a generic ballad that kind of lacks any melody or creativity;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYTzwyY9BBw

Not a good first sign.  A shame cause Albion was a great record.  The next one not as much but decent.  I hope this one shows us something but this song is auto pilot Gary.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on May 27, 2017, 03:06:24 AM
So the first song they release from the new Ten is a generic ballad that kind of lacks any melody or creativity;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYTzwyY9BBw

Not a good first sign.  A shame cause Albion was a great record.  The next one not as much but decent.  I hope this one shows us something but this song is auto pilot Gary.


Pretty average Ten ballad. But the end of the guitar solo rips Mr Crowley pretty obviously
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 05:25:15 AM
Song from the Kryptonite band with Jacob Samuel;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb5CLEKqRas

Was okay until the average chorus.  There is a melody in the middle of the second chorus which is a blatant rip from the verse of Ozzy's Shot in the Dark.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 30, 2017, 06:21:19 AM
I refuse to listen on a matter of principle
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on May 30, 2017, 04:06:23 PM
I refuse to listen on a matter of principle

The band are gonna be so hurt bro.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on May 30, 2017, 08:09:12 PM
I refuse to listen on a matter of principle

The band are gonna be so hurt bro.

The should be!   :D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on May 31, 2017, 12:29:53 PM
I refuse to listen on a matter of principle

It's as fucking awful as you expect it to be. More of the same shit. Doesn't flow, just a bunch of bits stuck together (and not in a sexual way 😀). Surely someone involved knew it was shit?
100% on melodicrock.com?
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Zook on May 31, 2017, 01:20:43 PM
The should be!   :D

Terrible band.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2017, 04:59:40 PM
Yes mother fuckers!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7TniUhFTUI
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 02, 2017, 05:44:19 PM
Romeo-Roll?
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 02, 2017, 06:41:57 PM
Listening to Jorn's album now.  After two songs, I think it's pretty safe to say that this is the best thing he's done under his own name since Lonely are the Brave
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on June 03, 2017, 04:14:18 AM
Yes mother fuckers!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7TniUhFTUI

It's not Fighting For The Earth is it.
Honestly, how did this album get a release?

Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2017, 04:52:09 AM
Yes mother fuckers!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7TniUhFTUI

It's not Fighting For The Earth is it.
Honestly, how did this album get a release?

Frontiers records.

Listening to Jorn's album now.  After two songs, I think it's pretty safe to say that this is the best thing he's done under his own name since Lonely are the Brave

 :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2017, 05:15:04 AM
Eden's Curse must have known their last album was shit so they have gone back and re-recorded the first one for some reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2pgJdJ4H1Y
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on June 28, 2017, 05:56:11 AM
Saw that ... and a DVD to boot.  Guess they've run out of ideas for new material?  No way I'm handing over my money for this.  This just smells of 'fleecing' your fans.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on June 28, 2017, 11:44:48 PM
Saw that ... and a DVD to boot.  Guess they've run out of ideas for new material?  No way I'm handing over my money for this.  This just smells of 'fleecing' your fans.

Absolutely.  The samples don't sound any improvements over the original, even with the change of singer.  The DVD might be cool, but would be a single watch only really.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on July 02, 2017, 04:40:21 AM
So Giant played a few songs in Nashville lastight. Dan Huff still smokes on guitar and he didn't sing, but cool to have him back rocking again 🎸😀
Their debut made my top 50.

https://www.facebook.com/brentklopp/posts/10155120015099823
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on July 14, 2017, 07:33:58 AM
Another one from this stupid Kee of Hearts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt9SRbvq-BU

This is pretty damn good.  Both songs have been surprising, but seriously fuck that horrible bass player off.  He's a bit fucking late for the Thriller video shoot!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on July 14, 2017, 07:39:43 AM
I must admit this is pretty good. That guy has a GREAT voice. Is that MP on drums?

Oh and Kade, the bass player is the least creepiest dude in the band. :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on July 14, 2017, 08:52:57 AM
I must admit this is pretty good. That guy has a GREAT voice. Is that MP on drums?

Oh and Kade, the bass player is the least creepiest dude in the band. :lol

I'm hearing typical Frontiers stuff with a better (i.e. More to my preference with a grittier voice) singer. Had to look away from the video to get any enjoyment at all. Stick to lyric videos ffs when you're that ugly and your singer has a lounge singer cheesy smile no matter what the subject matter.

I'd rather listen to Fair Warning which at least had some character thanks to Helge's guitar playing.

I had hopes for this too.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on July 14, 2017, 08:55:02 AM
  Stick to lyric videos ffs when you're that ugly and your singer has a lounge singer cheesy smile no matter what the subject matter.

 :lol

The singer is strange looking. Like eeeeeuuuuuuuwwwwwww.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on July 14, 2017, 04:54:19 PM
I must admit this is pretty good. That guy has a GREAT voice. Is that MP on drums?

Oh and Kade, the bass player is the least creepiest dude in the band. :lol

haha, fucking scary hey.

I must admit this is pretty good. That guy has a GREAT voice. Is that MP on drums?

Oh and Kade, the bass player is the least creepiest dude in the band. :lol

I'm hearing typical Frontiers stuff with a better (i.e. More to my preference with a grittier voice) singer. Had to look away from the video to get any enjoyment at all. Stick to lyric videos ffs when you're that ugly and your singer has a lounge singer cheesy smile no matter what the subject matter.

I'd rather listen to Fair Warning which at least had some character thanks to Helge's guitar playing.

I had hopes for this too.

This is the funniest thing I've read in a while, brilliant.  This forum should have a rep system or something, 11 thumbs up!!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on July 17, 2017, 05:10:22 PM
Good lord.

https://bravewords.com/news/kee-of-hearts-featuring-kee-marcello-and-tommy-heart-release-band-introduction-video
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2017, 10:06:49 PM
Good lord.

https://bravewords.com/news/kee-of-hearts-featuring-kee-marcello-and-tommy-heart-release-band-introduction-video

I'm so annoyed that I am at work right so can't watch this.  This is going to be the highlight of my day tonight.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on July 18, 2017, 08:52:12 AM
So I like the sound of this, though it's pretty standard fare for Frontiers. Tommys vocals help a lot, great voice, but as my previous post said, I can't stand that cheesy smile...

"It's the end of the world" cheesy smile " and were all going to die" cheesy smile "there'll be guts everywhere" cheesy smile " and death comes from the sky" cheesy smile and a wink aaaarrrrgggghhhh
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on July 18, 2017, 08:56:47 AM
So I like the sound of this, though it's pretty standard fare for Frontiers. Tommys vocals help a lot, great voice, but as my previous post said, I can't stand that cheesy smile...

"It's the end of the world" cheesy smile " and were all going to die" cheesy smile "there'll be guts everywhere" cheesy smile " and death comes from the sky" cheesy smile and a wink aaaarrrrgggghhhh

Tommy has always had that overly enthusiastic/cheesy nature to his presence on video/stage but I think the extra dimension is the teeth.   He has either had falsies or some super duper whitening done that tends to make people look creepy (or more creepy :lol  ) until the dental procedure "settles in".

I agree that this sounds pretty good , at least relative to most recent melrock releases.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on July 18, 2017, 09:18:39 AM
So I like the sound of this, though it's pretty standard fare for Frontiers. Tommys vocals help a lot, great voice, but as my previous post said, I can't stand that cheesy smile...

"It's the end of the world" cheesy smile " and were all going to die" cheesy smile "there'll be guts everywhere" cheesy smile " and death comes from the sky" cheesy smile and a wink aaaarrrrgggghhhh

Tommy has always had that overly enthusiastic/cheesy nature to his presence on video/stage but I think the extra dimension is the teeth.   He has either had falsies or some super duper whitening done that tends to make people look creepy (or more creepy :lol  ) until the dental procedure "settles in".

I agree that this sounds pretty good , at least relative to most recent melrock releases.

Back to our old friend Warney again, with the makeover he had when he was knocking Liz Hurley off  :biggrin: :biggrin: and I speak from nothing but jealousy  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2017, 05:52:09 AM
Just realised who Tommy Heart reminds me of....
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(https://orig08.deviantart.net/50c4/f/2014/363/b/4/zlcfzsyti_yihb0rsqchester_by_saberrobert-d8bs42f.png)
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on July 19, 2017, 06:01:14 AM
Good lord.

https://bravewords.com/news/kee-of-hearts-featuring-kee-marcello-and-tommy-heart-release-band-introduction-video

I'm really glad we didn't meet the bass player.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on July 19, 2017, 07:40:34 AM

(https://orig08.deviantart.net/50c4/f/2014/363/b/4/zlcfzsyti_yihb0rsqchester_by_saberrobert-d8bs42f.png)

 :lol

Definitely.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on July 21, 2017, 04:47:13 PM
New Rvolution Saints

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWMgLaRppi8

Meh, sounds more poppy any generic than anything on the first album.  disappointing cause I really really liked the first album, hopefully there's better stuff than this on it.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on July 21, 2017, 08:33:21 PM
New Rvolution Saints

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWMgLaRppi8

Meh, sounds more poppy any generic than anything on the first album.  disappointing cause I really really liked the first album, hopefully there's better stuff than this on it.

Yeah - sounds like a Delvecchio cookie cutter special.    The press release I saw didn't comment on the writing but I am betting that the 3 guys didn't contribute much.  Although Blades/Night Ranger are way too "happy" these days so maybe he had a bit of input.

I am way behind on 2017 stuff but it's shaping as a pretty shitty year from what I have got to.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on July 22, 2017, 05:01:24 AM
New Rvolution Saints

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWMgLaRppi8

Meh, sounds more poppy any generic than anything on the first album.  disappointing cause I really really liked the first album, hopefully there's better stuff than this on it.

Yeah - sounds like a Delvecchio cookie cutter special.    The press release I saw didn't comment on the writing but I am betting that the 3 guys didn't contribute much.  Although Blades/Night Ranger are way too "happy" these days so maybe he had a bit of input.

I am way behind on 2017 stuff but it's shaping as a pretty shitty year from what I have got to.

Before I played it I knew exactly how the riff would sound, most songs on the last one had it. I didn't mind it, mainly because of the vocals.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on July 22, 2017, 08:56:38 AM
I am way behind on 2017 stuff but it's shaping as a pretty shitty year from what I have got to.

Can't disagree with this too much.  7 months in, and I've only purchased 16 albums, with another 18 saved on Spotify.  The good ones have been REALLY good (Mindmaze and Pyramaze especially), but the overall number of purchase worthy albums seems to be a little off compared to recent years.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on July 23, 2017, 04:00:20 AM
New Rvolution Saints

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWMgLaRppi8

Meh, sounds more poppy any generic than anything on the first album.  disappointing cause I really really liked the first album, hopefully there's better stuff than this on it.

Yeah - sounds like a Delvecchio cookie cutter special.    The press release I saw didn't comment on the writing but I am betting that the 3 guys didn't contribute much.  Although Blades/Night Ranger are way too "happy" these days so maybe he had a bit of input.

I am way behind on 2017 stuff but it's shaping as a pretty shitty year from what I have got to.

For LIGHT IN THE DARK, REVOLUTION SAINTS once again teamed up with producer/songwriter Alessandro Del Vecchio (Hardline, JORN), who was also behind the boards for the bands debut album. Most of LIGHT IN THE DARK was recorded at Del Vecchios studios in Somma Lombardo, Italy, with additional recording taking place at Blades studio in Washington, Aldrichs CasaDala studio in Los Angeles, and other countries all over the world while Aldrich was on tour with The Dead Daisies.

As you say nothing specific, but I think I think this pretty much tells us everything.  I hope it's like the first where there is contributions from others, it added a nice variety with the likes of Martensson and Karlsson and others adding song.  Since it doesn't mention that though, I'm guessing it's a Del Vecchio special.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2017, 05:25:23 AM
This new Ten song is actually really, really.......shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skFlbPec_wo
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 02, 2017, 06:14:55 AM
I spun about 1/2 the album, and it was pretty uneventful.  Nothing that I haven't heard from Ten about a dozen times already.

Also spun Riverdogs - it was worse.  Bland as hell.

Not even sure I want to subject myself to Mr. Big.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Zook on August 02, 2017, 09:38:38 AM
So why do you guys even follow these bands anymore? :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2017, 02:26:04 PM
So why do you guys even follow these bands anymore? :lol

 :lol

Bam!!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on August 02, 2017, 03:02:02 PM
It makes me feel better when I can't do things I used to be able to 😀
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on August 02, 2017, 06:15:13 PM
So why do you guys even follow these bands anymore? :lol

Probably the same reason you decided to voluntarily check out what's going on in this thread.  :tup
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Zook on August 02, 2017, 09:05:10 PM
So why do you guys even follow these bands anymore? :lol

Probably the same reason you decided to voluntarily check out what's going on in this thread.  :tup

Hey, I gotta check to see if that ONE good band has released a new album yet.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on August 03, 2017, 06:17:00 AM
So why do you guys even follow these bands anymore? :lol

Probably the same reason you decided to voluntarily check out what's going on in this thread.  :tup

Hey, I gotta check to see if that ONE good band has released a new album yet.

What are you talking about?  This thread is filled with good bands.  :mehlin
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Zook on August 03, 2017, 06:19:13 AM
So why do you guys even follow these bands anymore? :lol

Probably the same reason you decided to voluntarily check out what's going on in this thread.  :tup

Hey, I gotta check to see if that ONE good band has released a new album yet.

What are you talking about?  This thread is filled with good bands.  :mehlin

I will respectfully disagree.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on August 03, 2017, 06:20:00 AM
So why do you guys even follow these bands anymore? :lol

Probably the same reason you decided to voluntarily check out what's going on in this thread.  :tup

Hey, I gotta check to see if that ONE good band has released a new album yet.

What are you talking about?  This thread is filled with good bands.  :mehlin

I will respectfully disagree.

 :mehlin :mehlin :mehlin
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Zook on August 03, 2017, 06:21:28 AM
So why do you guys even follow these bands anymore? :lol

Probably the same reason you decided to voluntarily check out what's going on in this thread.  :tup

Hey, I gotta check to see if that ONE good band has released a new album yet.

What are you talking about?  This thread is filled with good bands.  :mehlin

I will respectfully disagree.

 :mehlin :mehlin :mehlin

Stop that. You're going to hurt yourself.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 03, 2017, 07:41:07 AM
So why do you guys even follow these bands anymore? :lol

Probably the same reason you decided to voluntarily check out what's going on in this thread.  :tup

Hey, I gotta check to see if that ONE good band has released a new album yet.

What are you talking about?  This thread is filled interspersed with good solid bands.  :mehlin

Fix'd
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on August 11, 2017, 04:54:55 PM
New H.E.A.T

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgQS6fG0-Qc

What the fucking fuck is this shit!?

Fuck off!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on August 11, 2017, 04:56:08 PM
More like C.O.L.D.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jjrock88 on August 11, 2017, 06:04:14 PM
Is that a dance song? I turned it off 45 seconds in. I pushed it past my usual 30 second turn off
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on August 11, 2017, 06:04:48 PM
Well, with responses like that, I've got zero incentive to click the link.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on August 11, 2017, 06:48:46 PM
Well, with responses like that, I've got zero incentive to click the link.

Yet you are powerless not too!  :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Bolsters on August 11, 2017, 07:56:40 PM
I didn't mind that H.E.A.T track. :loser:
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on August 11, 2017, 10:24:25 PM
As someone in the comments said - "I want my click back"

Would never have guessed that was a rock band let alone H.E.A.T. - where the fuck is Erik ?  Not to mention the guitarists etc......

From what I gather this is some attempt to break into the mainstream and the rest of the album may be very different but still........... :-\
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on August 12, 2017, 03:49:23 AM
As someone in the comments said - "I want my click back"

Would never have guessed that was a rock band let alone H.E.A.T. - where the fuck is Erik ?  Not to mention the guitarists etc......

From what I gather this is some attempt to break into the mainstream and the rest of the album may be very different but still........... :-\

Has that typical euro disco sound with the keys. Not up to the last couple of albums by any stretch. Singer has such a good voice though.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Anguyen92 on August 12, 2017, 09:57:24 AM
I didn't mind that H.E.A.T track. :loser:

I concur.  I mean I'm sure what they've done was really different, and hearing this sort of track is a radical change to the fans, I guess, but there are worst songs out there than this.  This is tolerable at least.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2017, 04:27:21 AM
I didn't mind that H.E.A.T track. :loser:

I concur.  I mean I'm sure what they've done was really different, and hearing this sort of track is a radical change to the fans, I guess, but there are worst songs out there than this.  This is tolerable at least.

Yes there are worst songs and it may be as you say 'tolerable' but that's not good enough.  The last two albums from these guys have been fantastic so they have the talent and creativity, or had that creativity, this is just not up to standard at all.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on August 17, 2017, 09:11:29 AM
New Kee of Hearts video. Warning, they haven't got any prettier  ;D

https://youtu.be/9Xx0jTV6jGQ

Ok song but they've all been very similar and a bit too "happy" sounding for me
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on August 17, 2017, 08:03:29 PM
The song is just ok, but this band has promise. I love this guy's voice. I've basically enjoyed the three songs they've released. Not sure when the album comes out, but I will absolutely give this a run through on Spotify, but I would not be surprised if I picked this up.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on August 18, 2017, 02:08:32 AM
The song is just ok, but this band has promise. I love this guy's voice. I've basically enjoyed the three songs they've released. Not sure when the album comes out, but I will absolutely give this a run through on Spotify, but I would not be surprised if I picked this up.

Are you familiar with Tommy Heart's work with Fair Warning? Worth checking out if you like this. I'd rank it far higher.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on August 18, 2017, 05:42:36 AM
Not familiar. I'll have to check it out.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on August 18, 2017, 06:01:31 AM
Not familiar. I'll have to check it out.

Their debut was in my Top 50 so you may have sampled it.  The later releases from Fair Warning weren't great - I would stick with the s/t debut and 4 ............the other two better ones (Go! and Rainmaker) were a bit softer/more commercial.  All quality albums though.

That new KOH song is okay - don't like it as much as the last one.   Nice to hear Kee shredding again , although that solo sounded a bit "for the sake of it" rather than his normal well constructed stuff.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on August 19, 2017, 04:09:39 PM
Having a listen to the Janet Gardner album and although it's a bit "modern" sounding, I'm enjoying it. It's on Spotify if anyone's interested.

Edit. Maybe skip the track The Grind.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on August 21, 2017, 05:07:48 AM
New Kee of Hearts video. Warning, they haven't got any prettier  ;D

https://youtu.be/9Xx0jTV6jGQ

Ok song but they've all been very similar and a bit too "happy" sounding for me

This is still not bad but not as good as the first two songs.  I have a feeling those will be the two highlights and probably the only two real rockers on there.  I reckon the rest of it will be this generic happier style.  Still keen to check it out.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2017, 06:26:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUHA6T0Cl-Q

What the fuck?  These guys can seriously piss off now.  What a let down.

More like C.O.L.D.

Ice fucking cold!!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on August 25, 2017, 06:40:56 AM
I pissed myself laughing and shut it down at the 12 second mark  :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on August 25, 2017, 12:31:58 PM
I pissed myself laughing and shut it down at the 12 second mark  :lol

Oh dear. I can say that the last 60 seconds are ok, it finally starts to rock a bit (comparatively)
I'm ok with a slow build, in an epic, but 3 minutes of it in a 4 minute 12 second song? No. And most of that is a solo section.

They must be aiming for Eurovision  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2017, 04:02:20 PM
I pissed myself laughing and shut it down at the 12 second mark  :lol

Oh dear. I can say that the last 60 seconds are ok, it finally starts to rock a bit (comparatively)
I'm ok with a slow build, in an epic, but 3 minutes of it in a 4 minute 12 second song? No. And most of that is a solo section.

They must be aiming for Eurovision  :biggrin:

I know you're joking, but you could be right with these sorts of shitty songs.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Zook on August 25, 2017, 05:06:06 PM
I thought it was a cover of The Safety Dance. Once the singing started I quickly got bored.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on August 26, 2017, 09:02:12 AM
Read a review saying that there are some rockers on it. Here's hoping. There's also a track that could be a summer dance hit -  :\
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on August 27, 2017, 04:20:18 AM
Read a review saying that there are some rockers on it. Here's hoping. There's also a track that could be a summer dance hit -  :\

Even if there is a few rockers, with this shit around it, I'm not even remotely interested.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 12:18:01 AM
I had a listen to the Kryptonite album this morning out of interest.

My thoughts;

It should be called Kraptonite.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on September 05, 2017, 12:29:49 AM
I had a listen to the Kryptonite album this morning out of interest.

My thoughts;

It should be called Kraptonite.

Will probably check that out shortly too.  let's see if it's at least a solid Krap.  ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 06:07:25 AM
I had a listen to the Kryptonite album this morning out of interest.

My thoughts;

It should be called Kraptonite.

Will probably check that out shortly too.  let's see if it's at least a solid Krap.  ;D

I made it through the first five songs.  Skipped through a couple more than turned it off.

I also checked out the Secret Sphere.  Haven't followed them and only have Scent of A Human Desire, but this was soft.  I don't remember them being this soft and pooftaish, if that's a term I can use haha.  Nothing worthwhile or memorable here.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on September 05, 2017, 06:26:18 AM
I had a listen to the Kryptonite album this morning out of interest.

My thoughts;

It should be called Kraptonite.

Will probably check that out shortly too.  let's see if it's at least a solid Krap.  ;D

I made it through the first five songs.  Skipped through a couple more than turned it off.

I also checked out the Secret Sphere.  Haven't followed them and only have Scent of A Human Desire, but this was soft.  I don't remember them being this soft and pooftaish, if that's a term I can use haha.  Nothing worthwhile or memorable here.

Yeah.  Secret Sphere have some good stuff but their latest is one of the least impressive releases I've listened to this year and that's saying something.  Mostly crap/krap.

If I manage to get through the enormous pile of 2017 stuff that I need to catch up on (trying to at the moment) then I hope things improve because I think I only have 2 or 3 rankings of 90% from many dozens of albums vs a stack of good stuff last year.   I think I may have found my album of the year so far just today but I'll keep it up my sleeve as I need something for a 2017 show if I do one.  At this point nothing in my Top 5 is a well known artist and my No 1 is from a communist country.  Shows you how hard it is to find something decent :lol
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 06:28:45 AM
I had a listen to the Kryptonite album this morning out of interest.

My thoughts;

It should be called Kraptonite.

Will probably check that out shortly too.  let's see if it's at least a solid Krap.  ;D

I made it through the first five songs.  Skipped through a couple more than turned it off.

I also checked out the Secret Sphere.  Haven't followed them and only have Scent of A Human Desire, but this was soft.  I don't remember them being this soft and pooftaish, if that's a term I can use haha.  Nothing worthwhile or memorable here.

Yeah.  Secret Sphere have some good stuff but their latest is one of the least impressive releases I've listened to this year and that's saying something.  Mostly crap/krap.

If I manage to get through the enormous pile of 2017 stuff that I need to catch up on (trying to at the moment) then I hope things improve because I think I only have 2 or 3 rankings of 90% from many dozens of albums vs a stack of good stuff last year.   I think I may have found my album of the year so far just today but I'll keep it up my sleeve as I need something for a 2017 show if I do one.  At this point nothing in my Top 5 is a well known artist and my No 1 is from a communist country.  Shows you how hard it is to find something decent :lol

Gotta say mate, this isn't really a surprise haha.  Yeah, even though I've tuned out a bit, most stuff this year has been very lackluster.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on September 05, 2017, 06:33:01 AM
I never manage to do it but I am thinking about ignoring new releases in 2018 and concentrating on the thousands of good leads I already either have on my hard drive or have noted down to chase up.  Far better strike rate in that lot I am sure - I will never get through them if I keep hunting new releases.

I'll try and get on top of 2017 though as it's a nice challenge  ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 06:34:42 AM
I never manage to do it but I am thinking about ignoring new releases in 2018 and concentrating on the thousands of good leads I already either have on my hard drive or have noted down to chase up.  Far better strike rate in that lot I am sure - I will never get through them if I keep hunting new releases.

I'll try and get on top of 2017 though as it's a nice challenge  ;D

You always seem very thorough Brent.  I'm sure there's no harm in just checking out 2018 releases from arists you would actually really like to hear new releases from.  We've just heard it all.  Not sure what bands have to do these days to get us excited again.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 05, 2017, 06:44:38 AM
I didn't think the Secret Sphere was horrible - and bought it mostly to be a completionist.  It was certainly a step down from Portrait of a Dying Heart.  I'm a fan of Luppi's voice, so I can tolerate it.  Haven't gone back to it much tho.

I'm not really 'hunting' for new releases/bands.  I'm just checking out A) new albums from bands I already know, and B) SOME of the recommendations from you blokes.  I'm still at a pace of about 100 albums by the end of the year (I'm at 71 so far - but only purchased 21).
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on September 05, 2017, 06:48:44 AM
I don't mind Luppi's voice Chad.......I actually enjoyed the re-record they released in 2015 but this year's one I just thought the songs sounded thrown together (one or two exceptions).

Maybe I'll subcontract my hunting to you for 2018  ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Bolsters on September 05, 2017, 07:35:51 AM
I'm not really 'hunting' for new releases/bands.  I'm just checking out A) new albums from bands I already know, and B) SOME of the recommendations from you blokes.  I'm still at a pace of about 100 albums by the end of the year (I'm at 71 so far - but only purchased 21).
I'm at 63 so far, and there's really only one or two more upcoming albums that I think have a chance to be any good. 2017 has blown pretty fucking hard.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 03:50:34 PM
I have never counted or kept track of the number of albums I've checked out in a year.  I have never thought to count to be honest.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on September 05, 2017, 05:45:39 PM
I got sent a low bitrate advance of the new H.E.A.T. .............I would've preferred to get something I expect to be good in advance but I'll give it a quick spin and deliver the bad news  ;D
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 05:47:13 PM
I got sent a low bitrate advance of the new H.E.A.T. .............I would've preferred to get something I expect to be good in advance but I'll give it a quick spin and deliver the bad news  ;D

I can't see this being salvageable after what we've heard.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on September 05, 2017, 05:47:37 PM
Pretty sure it's going to B.L.O.W.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 05:50:22 PM
Pretty sure it's going to B.L.O.W.

and S.U.C.K hard.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 05, 2017, 06:07:17 PM
I have never counted or kept track of the number of albums I've checked out in a year.  I have never thought to count to be honest.

It's more to keep TRACK.  I'll come across an album later in the year and think 'did I try this one already'.  I like to keep track of what I've listened to, and what is worth either buying, saving on Spotify, or needs at least one more listen.  Otherwise, I'd invariably play some tripe a second time later in the year (or next year).  Seriously, I've "found" stuff that had been out for months or a year or so where I'd think 'oh, they had a release' ... check my tracking file, and realize I already listened to - and dismissed - it.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: bl5150 on September 05, 2017, 06:36:48 PM
Pretty sure it's going to B.L.O.W.

Well yeah.   I can see what they're trying to do with this album (sell shitloads on the European pop charts) and it's done quite well if you can accept that but I can't  ;D    I imagine this is what the old H.E.A.T. sounds like crossed with Backstreet Boys , Eurovision and Coldplay.     H.E.A.T.P.L.A.Y.  ;D     I remember when Jaded Heart covered a Backstreet Boys song and did it quite well (their version of Easy Lover is okay too)  but nothing on this album rocks like that.

So the first track is a good rocker that I enjoyed (Bastards of Society).   The next track (Redefined) actually works quite well I thought , despite me not liking it when I first heard it.  Think something atmospheric like Downtown off the Address The Nation album.

Next up is the track that defines this album - Shit City  ;D   From here it's like pushing shit uphill.    Blind Leads The Blind is a good track but really I could just stick to the first two tracks and forget the rest.

68%


Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 05, 2017, 07:56:14 PM
That's disappointing Brent, but as expected.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on September 06, 2017, 04:14:41 PM
Oh dear. Doesn't sound good.
Well, they were great for two albums.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on September 08, 2017, 05:25:42 AM
One of Andrew McNeice's bands from his label - Fiction Syxx - is on Spotify. Sounded pretty good. Like  proggy AOR.

The Jan Akesson up next.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 16, 2017, 12:14:11 PM
I think this is the Classic Rock thread?

Eitherway here's a new single from Europe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNsFSimANzM

Pretty good, I just love Joeys voice, still going strong.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: Lowdz on September 17, 2017, 04:37:46 AM
I think this is the Classic Rock thread?

Eitherway here's a new single from Europe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNsFSimANzM

Pretty good, I just love Joeys voice, still going strong.

This is more the wimpy, pink n fluffy thread. Europe may have been that but not since the comeback 😀
Here we tend to discuss what shit Frontiers has put out recently and bemoan that they seem to have only two house writers...

But yeah, we discussed the Europe in the Classic Rock and Metal thread a couple of weeks ago. Decent tune. I loved the last album.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 17, 2017, 04:44:36 AM
I think this is the Classic Rock thread?

This thread is whatever you want it to be.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on September 17, 2017, 06:23:35 PM
This is most definitely NOT The Classic Rock Thread!
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 17, 2017, 11:23:14 PM
This is most definitely NOT The Melodic Classic Rock Thread!

Fixed.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: wolfking on September 18, 2017, 05:44:51 AM
Listening to the new Kee of Hearts and from what I remember of what Brent wrote, he's spot on.  The two singles which I really enjoyed are easily the best songs with the rest sounding as generic and samey as Del Vicchio and the Frontiers factory can churn out.  Reminds me and sounds exactly like say the Kelly Keeling or Cry of Dawn or something or a less impressive Find Me.  Another one from the Frontiers blueprint to the point.

All the solos are the same too which was disappointing.  It's just pleasant, but expected so much more.

Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: jingle.boy on September 18, 2017, 03:04:55 PM
Frontiers factory

expected so much more.

These two things do not compute.
Title: Re: The official Issa haters only thread v. DelVecchio and the bubblegum factory!!
Post by: TAC on September 18, 2017, 06:22:11 PM
This is the " but expected so much more" thread..


FIXED!!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 19, 2017, 05:31:56 AM
Sorted.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 19, 2017, 05:38:50 AM
This new Revolution Saints is turning into a real disappointment, I expected so much more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78OhGPNw9iI

Celine Dion does heavier less wimpy shit than this.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 19, 2017, 05:48:30 AM
This new Revolution Saints is turning into a real disappointment, I expected so much more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78OhGPNw9iI

Celine Dion does heavier less wimpy shit than this.

Yeah, but Deen looks better than her.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on September 19, 2017, 08:17:54 AM
Just so I understand out ranking methodology (from worst to better):

Way too cheesy (look or name) to even click play
Didn't make it past 30 seconds
That was a waste of <insert time> minutes of my life
Cookie Cutter
I expected so much more
Solid
This is great - I can't believe it's on Frontiers

Sound about right?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 20, 2017, 01:21:03 AM
Paul..............what was your verdict on the Jan Akesson ?    I thought it was massively disappointing relative to the snippets I had heard.  I enjoy that crunchy riff based sound but I expected so much more  ::)    The songs just weren't there for the most part.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 20, 2017, 06:05:15 AM
Just so I understand out ranking methodology (from worst to better):

Issa is an ugly whore who can't sing
haha, Radiation Romeos!?
Way too cheesy (look or name) to even click play
Frontiers took the Allen/Lande project from Karlsson and gave it to Tolkki now? lol no. Wait....
Didn't make it past 30 seconds
Did Frontiers get a hold of Eden's Curse, cause they suck now
WTF happened to Hardline, they are shit too
That was a waste of <insert time> minutes of my life
Cookie Cutter
I expected so much more
but, but, I really did expect so much more
Solid
This is great somewhat listenable - I can't believe it's on Frontiers
Pretty solid
Mat Sinner is a Frontiers bitch now hey?
Where's the new Work of Art, DTF loves them
Thankfully Magnus Karlsson didn't let DelVicchio anywhere near Primal Fear

Sound about right?

Added some.

Paul..............what was your verdict on the Jan Akesson ?    I thought it was massively disappointing relative to the snippets I had heard.  I enjoy that crunchy riff based sound but I expected so much more  ::)    The songs just weren't there for the most part.

Oh, no you didn't Brent?  Yes you did!  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on September 20, 2017, 06:48:09 AM
JA's Shadow Rain blew chunks.

Like the additions Kade, but after a few listens, I really did enjoy the last Hardline album.  They did try to mimic Double Eclipse - didn't come close to matching it, but there are a bunch of .... solid tunes in there.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on September 20, 2017, 02:53:59 PM
Paul..............what was your verdict on the Jan Akesson ?    I thought it was massively disappointing relative to the snippets I had heard.  I enjoy that crunchy riff based sound but I expected so much more  ::)    The songs just weren't there for the most part.

I'd agree with what you said. Big letdown after promising samples.
I preferred the Fiction Syxx, have you heard that?
There's not much out there that's floating my boat at the moment. If you've found anything, I'm all ears 😀
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2017, 09:47:30 AM

I'd agree with what you said. Big letdown after promising samples.
I preferred the Fiction Syxx, have you heard that?
There's not much out there that's floating my boat at the moment. If you've found anything, I'm all ears 😀

Will check out the Fiction Syxx later this week.    Geez Andrew is releasing some shite through his label.

My head is a bit of a spin at the moment as I am racing through all the 2017 stuff - will get back to you.   Most the best albums are either super obscure or outside my normal tastes.  Even getting into a bit of doomy/retro metal stuff which is unlike me -  has to have some more melodic/uptempo bits to it though for me to get on board.

If you want some easy listening , throwback glammy stuff perhaps try an album by a band called Rockett Love.   Sorta like a cross of Newman and Danger Danger.  Very predictable but easy to listen to.  Produced by Beau Hill.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on September 21, 2017, 09:51:51 AM

I'd agree with what you said. Big letdown after promising samples.
I preferred the Fiction Syxx, have you heard that?
There's not much out there that's floating my boat at the moment. If you've found anything, I'm all ears 😀

Will check out the Fiction Syxx later this week.    Geez Andrew is releasing some shite through his label.

My head is a bit of a spin at the moment as I am racing through all the 2017 stuff - will get back to you.   Most the best albums are either super obscure or outside my normal tastes.  Even getting into a bit of doomy/retro metal stuff which is unlike me -  has to have some more melodic/uptempo bits to it though for me to get on board.

If you want some easy listening , throwback glammy stuff perhaps try an album by a band called Rockett Love.   Sorta like a cross of Newman and Danger Danger.  Very predictable but easy to listen to.  Produced by Beau Hill.

I heard about that one a while ago but couldn't track anything down on it to sample. Will try again.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 21, 2017, 10:09:13 AM

I'd agree with what you said. Big letdown after promising samples.
I preferred the Fiction Syxx, have you heard that?
There's not much out there that's floating my boat at the moment. If you've found anything, I'm all ears

Will check out the Fiction Syxx later this week.    Geez Andrew is releasing some shite through his label.

My head is a bit of a spin at the moment as I am racing through all the 2017 stuff - will get back to you.   Most the best albums are either super obscure or outside my normal tastes.  Even getting into a bit of doomy/retro metal stuff which is unlike me -  has to have some more melodic/uptempo bits to it though for me to get on board.

If you want some easy listening , throwback glammy stuff perhaps try an album by a band called Rockett Love.   Sorta like a cross of Newman and Danger Danger.  Very predictable but easy to listen to.  Produced by Beau Hill.

I heard about that one a while ago but couldn't track anything down on it to sample. Will try again.

Nothing to write home about by any means but decent enough to tap the foot to while working

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HXit3sbIeY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11jI4hJQYQc


Stuff all in this genre in 2017 really.    Just started on the Rian album and sounds solid :D  Think a slightly less impressive Find Me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 22, 2017, 11:32:38 PM

I preferred the Fiction Syxx, have you heard that?


Solid but probably expected more given a few "big" names involved.

I actually preferred the Rian.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on September 23, 2017, 06:26:32 AM
What the F kind of name is Fiction Syxx?

On tour now with True Story Sevyn and Documentary Too.

WTF??
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 23, 2017, 06:32:16 AM
Take a mark off for the name -so you'd give it a Non Fyction Nyne ? 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on September 23, 2017, 06:34:31 AM
I'd give it an f's Preposition Zeeroh!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on September 23, 2017, 10:08:56 AM
Shit name. I liked the proggy AOR of it.

Although those links for Rockett Love (there we go again 🤔) didn't work, I found a couple that did. I liked it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on September 23, 2017, 10:32:56 AM
Sadly, Frontiers posted a pic of Jorn and Del Douchebag together yesterday on FB

(https://scontent.fyto1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21728323_1513315322057847_1057853178495478360_n.jpg?oh=9eeb0f89423b3fca62981571d411da7f&oe=5A536E22)

Quote
Hmmmm....Alessandro Del Vecchio & JORN back together again?!?!?! What could they be up to.....

Hopefully a bitchslap to ADV for letting Tolkki ruin Allen/Lande 4.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on September 23, 2017, 03:14:17 PM
Yeah, saw that. Doesn't bode well.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on September 23, 2017, 03:15:29 PM
Yup. The guy needs to find another singer. ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 24, 2017, 04:46:22 AM
Sadly, Frontiers posted a pic of Jorn and Del Douchebag together yesterday on FB

(https://scontent.fyto1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21728323_1513315322057847_1057853178495478360_n.jpg?oh=9eeb0f89423b3fca62981571d411da7f&oe=5A536E22)

Quote
Hmmmm....Alessandro Del Vecchio & JORN back together again?!?!?! What could they be up to.....

Hopefully a bitchslap to ADV for letting Tolkki ruin Allen/Lande 4.

Didn't you like that Jorn album though?

And Del Viccchio had nothing to do with Allen/Lande, the person you need to blame is Serafino Perugino.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on September 24, 2017, 05:38:17 AM
Didn't you like that Jorn album though?

And Del Viccchio had nothing to do with Allen/Lande, the person you need to blame is Serafino Perugino.

I did quite enjoy Jorn's solo album this year actually - wasn't it essentially Voodoo Circle with Jorn on the mic?  Didn't know who deserved the scorn over A/L 4 - but they should be strung up by their tits.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2017, 05:48:07 AM
Didn't you like that Jorn album though?

And Del Viccchio had nothing to do with Allen/Lande, the person you need to blame is Serafino Perugino.

I did quite enjoy Jorn's solo album this year actually - wasn't it essentially Voodoo Circle with Jorn on the mic?  Didn't know who deserved the scorn over A/L 4 - but they should be strung up by their tits.

yeah, Voodoo Circle with Readman replaced by Jorn.  They probably should just get whoever that new guy was and make Jorn the singer officially.

Yeah, Serafino is the founder of the Issa factory and basically puts all these muso's together to make these pop albums.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 25, 2017, 08:04:21 AM
Blob free zone around here lately.

New Stan Bush anybody?  Featuring The Touch version 500  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2017, 03:27:36 PM

New Stan Bush anybody?  Featuring The Touch version 500  :biggrin:

Nah.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on September 25, 2017, 03:54:58 PM
Heard a couple of songs. Sounds like Stan Bush. Which is fine. He's not going to suddenly go grunge or growls on us, is he.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 25, 2017, 10:41:23 PM
Heard a couple of songs. Sounds like Stan Bush. Which is fine. He's not going to suddenly go grunge or growls on us, is he.

I'd be inclined to give him another go if he added some nice growlies.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on September 26, 2017, 07:43:08 AM
Heard a couple of songs. Sounds like Stan Bush. Which is fine. He's not going to suddenly go grunge or growls on us, is he.

I'd be inclined to give him another go if he added some nice growlies.

I doubt you would be impressed with Stan growlies. He probably farts in glorious melody 😀
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 27, 2017, 05:48:06 AM
Heard a couple of songs. Sounds like Stan Bush. Which is fine. He's not going to suddenly go grunge or growls on us, is he.

I'd be inclined to give him another go if he added some nice growlies.

I doubt you would be impressed with Stan growlies. He probably farts in glorious melody 😀

If he could make them sound like growlies, I'll take it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 27, 2017, 06:09:39 AM
 :lol

He's got the touch  ;D


The new Newman album is pretty solid  :)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 27, 2017, 06:12:52 AM
:lol

He's got the touch  ;D


The new Newman album is pretty solid  :)

I've only got Siren from Newman, which is really good actually.  Everything else I've sampled from him is pretty flat.  Reminds me a lot of Hartmann.  Lots of talent just bland and lacking.  I'll have to give the Newman a listen.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 27, 2017, 06:21:03 AM
:lol

He's got the touch  ;D


The new Newman album is pretty solid  :)

I've only got Siren from Newman, which is really good actually.  Everything else I've sampled from him is pretty flat.  Reminds me a lot of Hartmann.  Lots of talent just bland and lacking.  I'll have to give the Newman a listen.

I agree that he is hit and miss.  I was a big fan of his early release One Step Closer back in the distant past but since then it's been some great stuff in between lots of meh!

Siren was really good.  This isn't quite at that level (probably a few tracks too long at 12)  but it's a quality release and probably one of his more consistent.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on September 27, 2017, 10:12:58 AM
Who is Newman?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on September 27, 2017, 02:05:48 PM
Never really been that impressed with Newman. I could see him being a house writer at Frontiers.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on September 27, 2017, 03:43:44 PM
Who is Newman?

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XdVEZR7AoFk/UCoY3rZrBtI/AAAAAAAACAk/rcunpQK1nJg/s400/Jerry-Seinfeld-Newman.jpg)

Is the only acceptable answer.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 27, 2017, 11:12:13 PM
I need to check out this Aussie guy Darren Phillips and his project.   Has some decent guests he has got involved (members of Eclipse, Harem Scarem and Find Me etc... )  I was a bit iffy on it but after seeing the video below from a couple of the guests I am super pumped for this 

https://www.facebook.com/darrenphillipsproject/videos/1468241479936269/
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on September 28, 2017, 04:34:12 AM
I need to check out this Aussie guy Darren Phillips and his project.   Has some decent guests he has got involved (members of Eclipse, Harem Scarem and Find Me etc... )  I was a bit iffy on it but after seeing the video below from a couple of the guests I am super pumped for this 

https://www.facebook.com/darrenphillipsproject/videos/1468241479936269/

That video was cringe-worthy.  Hopefully the music isn't.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 28, 2017, 04:55:37 AM
I need to check out this Aussie guy Darren Phillips and his project.   Has some decent guests he has got involved (members of Eclipse, Harem Scarem and Find Me etc... )  I was a bit iffy on it but after seeing the video below from a couple of the guests I am super pumped for this 

https://www.facebook.com/darrenphillipsproject/videos/1468241479936269/

That video was cringe-worthy.  Hopefully the music isn't.

I was being facetious if that wasn't apparent.    I couldn't stop watching it............especially that guy on the left.  He can barely contain his excitement at how awesome he is  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 28, 2017, 04:58:03 AM
I need to check out this Aussie guy Darren Phillips and his project.   Has some decent guests he has got involved (members of Eclipse, Harem Scarem and Find Me etc... )  I was a bit iffy on it but after seeing the video below from a couple of the guests I am super pumped for this 

https://www.facebook.com/darrenphillipsproject/videos/1468241479936269/

The guy on the left forgot his shirt.

:lol

He's got the touch  ;D


The new Newman album is pretty solid  :)

I've only got Siren from Newman, which is really good actually.  Everything else I've sampled from him is pretty flat.  Reminds me a lot of Hartmann.  Lots of talent just bland and lacking.  I'll have to give the Newman a listen.

I agree that he is hit and miss.  I was a big fan of his early release One Step Closer back in the distant past but since then it's been some great stuff in between lots of meh!

Siren was really good.  This isn't quite at that level (probably a few tracks too long at 12)  but it's a quality release and probably one of his more consistent.

I'll give it a spin then.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 28, 2017, 04:58:30 AM
mr.com's verdict on the new H.E.A.T.........97%  :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 28, 2017, 05:14:31 AM
not 100%? Then it must be shit.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on September 28, 2017, 05:19:02 AM
I need to check out this Aussie guy Darren Phillips and his project.   Has some decent guests he has got involved (members of Eclipse, Harem Scarem and Find Me etc... )  I was a bit iffy on it but after seeing the video below from a couple of the guests I am super pumped for this 

https://www.facebook.com/darrenphillipsproject/videos/1468241479936269/

That video was cringe-worthy.  Hopefully the music isn't.

I was being facetious if that wasn't apparent.    I couldn't stop watching it............especially that guy on the left.  He can barely contain his excitement at how awesome he is  :lol

I figured as much with respect to the video.  Wasn't sure if you were maybe a little interested in the music.  The audio didn't sound horrible.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 28, 2017, 05:21:11 AM
I will be checking out the album on the weekend .
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on September 28, 2017, 02:46:53 PM
https://youtu.be/LO9FkVdIgAQ

Video for one of the songs. Solid I guess. Nothing wrong with it but not jumping out at me.

I think I might have heard every song I'm ever going to love in this genre... I'm really considering not bothering with anything new and going the JJ 'nothing but the classics' route. That boys onto something 😀
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 28, 2017, 11:21:56 PM
Just listening to the Scherer/Batten album and was expecting something interesting but nah  ;D   I didn't realise the whole thing was via the Peterik team  (Peterik, Aquino etc....) and Scherer sounds like Toby Hitchcock , so it really just sounds like a very basic Pride of Lions style with Batten on lead guitar.  Plenty of the songs are recycled from other projects of Peterik's.

I expected so much more  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 29, 2017, 04:03:44 AM
The new album from Hell In The Club has some good stuff on it , but half filler.   The good songs were enjoyable though..
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on September 29, 2017, 04:32:27 AM
The new album from Hell In The Club has some good stuff on it , but half filler.   The good songs were enjoyable though..

Cool... I'll give it a spin.  I enjoyed Shadow of the Monster well enough, but things just got very same the further I went back in their discography.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2017, 05:18:00 AM
https://youtu.be/LO9FkVdIgAQ

Video for one of the songs. Solid I guess. Nothing wrong with it but not jumping out at me.

I think I might have heard every song I'm ever going to love in this genre... I'm really considering not bothering with anything new and going the JJ 'nothing but the classics' route. That boys onto something 😀

Yeah, I'm surprised how much I've gone off this style too.  Obviously Dennis Ward singing here which is cool.  Sounds just like Khymera.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 29, 2017, 05:18:37 AM
The new album from Hell In The Club has some good stuff on it , but half filler.   The good songs were enjoyable though..

I have never ever heard of this band until about a month ago when I clicked on a youtube link.  It was kinda alright.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on October 05, 2017, 08:46:12 PM
Just had a listen to the new Revolution Saints.


All I can say is "Don't give up after the first 3 tracks".    They are the absolute dregs of predictable, cookie cutter crap that we are getting so used to.   But then, magically , at track 4 it becomes quite a strong melodic rock album with a couple of decent ballads too.

Rating  81%.................dump the first 3 tracks (of 11) and it would be mid-high 80's.   There is a 12th track but it's just an acoustic version.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2017, 05:03:39 AM
Just had a listen to the new Revolution Saints.


All I can say is "Don't give up after the first 3 tracks".    They are the absolute dregs of predictable, cookie cutter crap that we are getting so used to.   But then, magically , at track 4 it becomes quite a strong melodic rock album with a couple of decent ballads too.

Rating  81%.................dump the first 3 tracks (of 11) and it would be mid-high 80's.   There is a 12th track but it's just an acoustic version.

Nice Brent.  Had no expectations for this after what we've heard so far.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 06, 2017, 05:05:19 AM
Now here's some half decent melodic rock.  From a project called Gathering of Kings, featuring Bjorn Strid and Martensson.  Not bad this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz1XqJj8TAs&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on October 06, 2017, 05:50:20 AM
Now here's some half decent melodic rock.  From a project called Gathering of Kings, featuring Bjorn Strid and Martensson.  Not bad this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz1XqJj8TAs&feature=youtu.be

Is Bjorn the guy from Night Flight Orchestra?  Sure sounds like it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on October 06, 2017, 02:26:55 PM
Now here's some half decent melodic rock.  From a project called Gathering of Kings, featuring Bjorn Strid and Martensson.  Not bad this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz1XqJj8TAs&feature=youtu.be

Jesus, only played ten seconds of the intro and that is Ask The Lonely by Journey. Not even subtle!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 07, 2017, 12:21:10 AM
Now here's some half decent melodic rock.  From a project called Gathering of Kings, featuring Bjorn Strid and Martensson.  Not bad this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz1XqJj8TAs&feature=youtu.be

Is Bjorn the guy from Night Flight Orchestra?  Sure sounds like it.

Sure is.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Bolsters on October 07, 2017, 12:27:31 AM
Now here's some half decent melodic rock.  From a project called Gathering of Kings, featuring Bjorn Strid and Martensson.  Not bad this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz1XqJj8TAs&feature=youtu.be

Jesus, only played ten seconds of the intro and that is Ask The Lonely by Journey. Not even subtle!
Will Frontiers even publish an album if it doesn't contain at least one Journey ripoff song?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on October 07, 2017, 06:08:00 AM
More cookie cutter crap. I quite like this style every now and then - brings back good memories - but there has to be something, anything in there that we haven't heard dozens of times before.

Could've been good as I like Bjorn's vocals but as a songwriter (with a few exceptions) Martennson just has no imagination at all.   I don't underestimate the difficulty/talent involved in writing good songs (the only project of mine that ever did anything took 4 years for 5 songs :lol  ) but this stuff just sounds made to order without any inspiration.

Having said that I won't write off the project just yet - hopefully this is the throwaway single  :-\
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on October 07, 2017, 08:05:41 AM
More cookie cutter crap. I quite like this style every now and then - brings back good memories - but there has to be something, anything in there that we haven't heard dozens of times before.

Could've been good as I like Bjorn's vocals but as a songwriter (with a few exceptions) Martennson just has no imagination at all.   I don't underestimate the difficulty/talent involved in writing good songs (the only project of mine that ever did anything took 4 years for 5 songs :lol  ) but this stuff just sounds made to order without any inspiration.

Having said that I won't write off the project just yet - hopefully this is the throwaway single  :-\

We need to hear it 😀
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 07, 2017, 10:15:55 PM
More cookie cutter crap. I quite like this style every now and then - brings back good memories - but there has to be something, anything in there that we haven't heard dozens of times before.

Could've been good as I like Bjorn's vocals but as a songwriter (with a few exceptions) Martennson just has no imagination at all.   I don't underestimate the difficulty/talent involved in writing good songs (the only project of mine that ever did anything took 4 years for 5 songs :lol  ) but this stuff just sounds made to order without any inspiration.

Having said that I won't write off the project just yet - hopefully this is the throwaway single  :-\

I thought it was a bit of a step up considering what Martensson has been doing lately.

EDIT:  Actually just saw Brent that this song is written by guitarist Victor Olsson.  So Martensson gets let off, for now. :)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on October 08, 2017, 04:43:11 AM
So maybe it's contagious.  :)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2017, 04:56:37 AM
So maybe it's contagious.  :)

Factories make machines don't forget.  :tup
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on October 12, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
I see Al Frits, vocalist for a Drive She Said has died.
I liked the first album but they were sit too pink and fluffy for me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on October 13, 2017, 07:13:40 AM
Yeah - Drive She Said was obviously considered a bit of an underground classic back in the day but never really got me interested.  The name Al Fritsch is certainly familiar - sad news.


As far as new music goes............if you're after something familiar but not quite THAT familiar that it drives you mad then the new Coldspell album is worth a spin folks.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on October 13, 2017, 07:35:27 AM
As far as new music goes............if you're after something familiar but not quite THAT familiar that it drives you mad then the new Coldspell album is worth a spin folks.

Cool... will spin it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on October 14, 2017, 09:07:05 AM
Yeah - Drive She Said was obviously considered a bit of an underground classic back in the day but never really got me interested.  The name Al Fritsch is certainly familiar - sad news.


As far as new music goes............if you're after something familiar but not quite THAT familiar that it drives you mad then the new Coldspell album is worth a spin folks.

Yeah, played that one. Was above solid 😀
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2017, 05:24:48 AM
Jesus, this new Revolution Saints is fucking horrid.  The first album was so good but this is one of the most crap things I've heard in a long long time.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on October 24, 2017, 05:40:10 AM
Jesus, this new Revolution Saints is fucking horrid.  The first album was so good but this is one of the most crap things I've heard in a long long time.

I thought there were some decent songs after the first three which were shockers.   Pretty loose though - sounded rushed in the songwriting department which is par for the course with most albums these days
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2017, 02:36:26 PM
Jesus, this new Revolution Saints is fucking horrid.  The first album was so good but this is one of the most crap things I've heard in a long long time.

I thought there were some decent songs after the first three which were shockers.   Pretty loose though - sounded rushed in the songwriting department which is par for the course with most albums these days

Just sounded like an even more run of the mill Frontiers production.  There was one song, I think the fourth which was good and glimpses here and there after that, but on a whole, just shit.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on October 24, 2017, 03:12:43 PM
Jesus, this new Revolution Saints is fucking horrid.  The first album was so good but this is one of the most crap things I've heard in a long long time.

I thought there were some decent songs after the first three which were shockers.   Pretty loose though - sounded rushed in the songwriting department which is par for the course with most albums these days

Just sounded like an even more run of the mill Frontiers production.  There was one song, I think the fourth which was good and glimpses here and there after that, but on a whole, just shit.

Kade... thanks for taking one for the team.   :tup
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on October 24, 2017, 03:29:46 PM
What if Deen were to try some blast beats on the next album Kade?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2017, 06:23:37 PM
What if Deen were to try some blast beats on the next album Kade?

With the amount of substances he takes, he should be able to nail them big time.  :metal

Brent, no offense but perhaps your man crush or Aldrich is making you give this album the benefit of the doubt a lot more than it should, no?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on October 24, 2017, 06:34:07 PM

Brent, no offense but perhaps your man crush or Aldrich is making you give this album the benefit of the doubt a lot more than it should, no?

Nah I don't think so.   After my second listen I rated it 81% so I'm not sure that is overwhelmingly positive.  I actually love Aldrich technically as a soloist but , with a few exceptions,  I have never really rated him a great songwriter.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2017, 06:38:34 PM

Brent, no offense but perhaps your man crush or Aldrich is making you give this album the benefit of the doubt a lot more than it should, no?

Nah I don't think so.   After my second listen I rated it 81% so I'm not sure that is overwhelmingly positive.  I actually love Aldrich technically as a soloist but , with a few exceptions,  I have never really rated him a great songwriter.

Yeah, I agree on the songwriting part.  Just seems like such a decline from the first record to this one.

81 is still not too bad for you mate haha.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2017, 07:15:32 PM
Who's the vocalist on Rev Saints?

EDIT:
I couldn't make it through 4 songs. The 3rd one was actually decent.

Brent...81%??? Does Melodic Rock have an opening in their Reviews Department that you are eyeing? C'mon, man.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2017, 07:57:31 PM
Who's the vocalist on Rev Saints?

EDIT:
I couldn't make it through 4 songs. The 3rd one was actually decent.

Brent...81%??? Does Melodic Rock have an opening in their Reviews Department that you are eyeing? C'mon, man.

Castronovo.

Haha, yeah Brent, as I said, a bit hight for you mate.  :lol

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on October 24, 2017, 08:40:02 PM
Who's the vocalist on Rev Saints?

EDIT:
I couldn't make it through 4 songs. The 3rd one was actually decent.

Brent...81%??? Does Melodic Rock have an opening in their Reviews Department that you are eyeing? C'mon, man.

Gimme a break - I said the first part of the album was shite from the beginning and you sample the first few songs to prove your point.  What did you rate fucking Steam Powered Giraffe again?  :D

Tim's read the map wrong again and ended up in here.

 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Big Hath on October 24, 2017, 11:04:49 PM
What did you rate fucking Steam Powered Giraffe again?  :D

 :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on October 25, 2017, 12:17:12 AM
It's indescribable how low of a rating I would give those steaming giraffes.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on October 25, 2017, 04:47:56 AM
It's indescribable how low of a rating I would give those steaming giraffes.

They are a steamy something alright.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2017, 04:55:45 AM
Who's the vocalist on Rev Saints?

EDIT:
I couldn't make it through 4 songs. The 3rd one was actually decent.

Brent...81%??? Does Melodic Rock have an opening in their Reviews Department that you are eyeing? C'mon, man.

Gimme a break - I said the first part of the album was shite from the beginning and you sample the first few songs to prove your point.  What did you rate fucking Steam Powered Giraffe again?  :D

Tim's read the map wrong again and ended up in here.

 

Brent, you and mr.com aren't far off actually, they rated Revolution Saints 90%, only 9% different...........ehhhh....... ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on October 25, 2017, 05:43:45 AM
Tim's read the map wrong again and ended up in here.

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on October 25, 2017, 06:07:16 AM
Tim's read the map wrong again and ended up in here.

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Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Stadler on October 25, 2017, 06:29:12 AM

Brent, no offense but perhaps your man crush or Aldrich is making you give this album the benefit of the doubt a lot more than it should, no?

Nah I don't think so.   After my second listen I rated it 81% so I'm not sure that is overwhelmingly positive.  I actually love Aldrich technically as a soloist but , with a few exceptions,  I have never really rated him a great songwriter.

Except Aldrich didn't write a note on the first Rev Saints record, and their best songwriter - Jack Blades - only wrote lyrics on one tune (as far as I remember).   Jack Blades is one of my top five favorite musicians ever, and I won't buy this because it's just a wasted opportunity if you ask me. 

TAC:  Deen Castronovo and Jack Blades are the singers.  I think Deen handles most of it though.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on October 25, 2017, 06:53:15 AM
Not sure where I mentioned the first album but either way-  Revolution Saints has always been a project without much writing input from the members and was originally more intended as a Deen solo project. 

My comment about Aldrich was about him in general (my "man crush) and nothing specific related to Revolution Saints.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Stadler on October 25, 2017, 07:18:40 AM
Not sure where I mentioned the first album but either way-  Revolution Saints has always been a project without much writing input from the members and was originally more intended as a Deen solo project. 

My comment about Aldrich was about him in general (my "man crush) and nothing specific related to Revolution Saints.

No, I get it; I just made the note in case anyone went to that project thinking they were going to see the songwriting talents of Blades and/or Aldrich, and I only referenced the first album, because that's the one I'm most familiar with.  I would assume the second would be consistent, but I don't know that for a fact.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on October 25, 2017, 09:19:46 AM
Tim's read the map wrong again and ended up in here.

(https://replygif.net/i/1353.gif)

 :lol

Yup, pretty much.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on October 25, 2017, 11:25:06 AM
Tim's read the map wrong again and ended up in here.

(https://replygif.net/i/1353.gif)

 :lol

Yup, pretty much.

Ah, the movie that just keeps giving 😀

Deen has got a great Perryesque voicebut I found both RS albums pretty boring. Same regurgitated riff...
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2017, 02:27:43 PM
One of the lines in one song Deen sings, "Somebody said don't stop believing" or something, that made me nearly vomit.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2017, 04:18:11 AM
Frontiers now trying to recreate Allen/Lande by the looks here;

Lione Conti.  Fabio and the dude from Trick or Treat which is actually a band I've never heard.  New song is average and not memorable.  The mastermind behind this one is Simone Mularoni, so at least we know the guitar work will be good.  And at least it's not Tolkki.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW8Cj22KXtM

But check the blatant Allen/Lande cover ripoff

(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/lionecontidebutcd.jpg)

haha. a duck.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2017, 04:34:47 AM
Trick or Treat are okay - a couple of decent albums. Started as a Helloween covers band.

That cover sucks.  Not sure I will even bother sampling.

Just what we need - another Alessandro at Frontiers  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2017, 04:38:18 AM
The cover is funny, can't get over the duck WTF?!  But come on, the blatant Allen/Lande on the cover is astounding.

Yeah, I'll listen, but that song offered nothing.  Simone seems pretty hit and miss with his songwriting really, but his input on the Sunstorm was welcome, although the quality compared to stuff he writes himself, gives me the indication his writing input on the Sunstorm was minimal.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Art on November 23, 2017, 04:53:47 AM
wtf is that duck doing on that cover?  :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on November 23, 2017, 05:44:25 AM
Bit of a ripoff of Magnus' Kingdom of Rock album colours too!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on November 23, 2017, 06:45:19 AM
But that duck looks pure evil. Don't count him out against the lion.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2017, 07:33:09 AM
Frontiers now trying to recreate Allen/Lande by the looks here;

...

I actually sampled that and considered posting it here. The song was really blah. I can't imaging the rest of the album being any good.

Fabio, let's get some new Vision Divine please.


Trick or Treat are okay - a couple of decent albums. Started as a Helloween covers band.

I think I have a song around here that Kiske did with them.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on November 23, 2017, 01:49:50 PM
I may have sent it to you in a roulette.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2017, 02:26:49 PM
Bit of a ripoff of Magnus' Kingdom of Rock album colours too!

Good pick up.

I may have sent it to you in a roulette.

Yeah, I'll save them for my next roulette.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on November 23, 2017, 03:27:14 PM
I'm still curious to see who wins between the duck and lion
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 23, 2017, 03:50:31 PM
I slept on it thinking the duck would make more sense to me in the morning, but I was wrong.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on November 27, 2017, 11:28:14 AM
Just found this.  Has some pedigree in the performers (from Tango Down, Bombay Black, Farcry) and a bonus of no del Vechio around.
Anyway,  I quite liked it and want to hear more.
Nothing new, but since when did we have any of that in this thread?  :biggrin:

Romeo Riot

https://youtu.be/HoLwcePq064
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 28, 2017, 04:17:22 AM
Romeo Riot??  What's with these band names lately?  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2017, 04:16:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxymvPUrDnY

Possibly the most shittest thing I've heard with Martensson.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on November 30, 2017, 04:20:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxymvPUrDnY

Possibly the most shittest thing I've heard with Martensson.

he is soooooo out of ideas.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2017, 04:50:43 AM
It's just fuckin' crap.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Sycsa on November 30, 2017, 05:51:07 AM
Even though that blue/orange color scheme is so clich, that's an amazing album cover. Space, lava, black hole whirlwind, and a duck to top it all off. :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on November 30, 2017, 05:58:19 AM
Give me an R....
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Architeuthis on November 30, 2017, 11:04:00 AM
I think the album cover looks cool!  That duck (or goose perhaps) looks like it's gonna thrash that lion. Pure metal!  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Podaar on November 30, 2017, 11:08:33 AM
It sure looks like a swan to me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Architeuthis on November 30, 2017, 11:54:18 AM
It sure looks like a swan to me.
Good call!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 30, 2017, 05:27:58 PM
So much focus on the duck  :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 07, 2017, 04:17:18 AM
New W.E.T.

https://youtu.be/oyqPN8KGKFk

Martensson is really pissing me off now.  From the brilliance of the debut, this is as boring and generic as anyhing on the second album and anything he's done since maybe moreso.  Actually the Nordic Union had more thought and life than this.  Why the fuck is Robert Sall even in this, he's like the kid that's picked last for the footy team just because he's there.  I know you guys don't like Work of Art but his songwriting skills could be utilised in this band rather than Martensson doing his best Timo Tolkki songwriting impression.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on December 07, 2017, 04:41:34 AM
New W.E.T.

https://youtu.be/oyqPN8KGKFk

Martensson is really pissing me off now.  From the brilliance of the debut, this is as boring and generic as anyhing on the second album and anything he's done since maybe moreso.  Actually the Nordic Union had more thought and life than this.  Why the fuck is Robert Sall even in this, he's like the kid that's picked last for the footy team just because he's there.  I know you guys don't like Work of Art but his songwriting skills could be utilised in this band rather than Martensson doing his best Timo Tolkki songwriting impression.

I didn't want to mention this as I thought it was shit too and wanted to wait for someone else :lol

Most of the fans seem to think it's fantastic but it's just all so familiar and boring.

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on December 07, 2017, 05:40:57 AM
I guess were just too seasone, distinguished, and discerning to put up with this kind of tripe.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 08, 2017, 04:31:54 AM
New W.E.T.

https://youtu.be/oyqPN8KGKFk

Martensson is really pissing me off now.  From the brilliance of the debut, this is as boring and generic as anyhing on the second album and anything he's done since maybe moreso.  Actually the Nordic Union had more thought and life than this.  Why the fuck is Robert Sall even in this, he's like the kid that's picked last for the footy team just because he's there.  I know you guys don't like Work of Art but his songwriting skills could be utilised in this band rather than Martensson doing his best Timo Tolkki songwriting impression.

I didn't want to mention this as I thought it was shit too and wanted to wait for someone else :lol

Most of the fans seem to think it's fantastic but it's just all so familiar and boring.

I find the duet thing between the two really fucking cheesy too now.  This is so disappointing and I can't see how any fans could really rate this highly.  Everyone should know better. The songwriting is so shallow and see through.  Should just call the band E.T., no W part in sight.  I reckon Erik would be a prick to work with.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2017, 04:04:37 AM
Jesus, mr.com rated the new Sweet and Lynch 45%!!  Fuck, I haven't listened to it and probably never will but Jesus it must be bad.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on December 11, 2017, 04:43:33 AM
Jesus, mr.com rated the new Sweet and Lynch 45%!!  Fuck, I haven't listened to it and probably never will but Jesus it must be bad.

What  a load of crap that rating is.........it might not be a great album but it has more going for it than 99% of the stuff he rates 99%  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2017, 04:46:35 AM
Jesus, mr.com rated the new Sweet and Lynch 45%!!  Fuck, I haven't listened to it and probably never will but Jesus it must be bad.

What  a load of crap that rating is.........it might not be a great album but it has more going for it than 99% of the stuff he rates 99%  ;D

Gotta say though, the few songs I heard were pretty damn shithouse.  I'm surprised Frontiers is still his friend after that review.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on December 11, 2017, 04:50:20 AM
Jesus, mr.com rated the new Sweet and Lynch 45%!!  Fuck, I haven't listened to it and probably never will but Jesus it must be bad.

What  a load of crap that rating is.........it might not be a great album but it has more going for it than 99% of the stuff he rates 99%  ;D

Gotta say though, the few songs I heard were pretty damn shithouse.  I'm surprised Frontiers is still his friend after that review.

That ship sailed a while ago - they're not buddies at all these days.  If you have a look around his site you won't find much to do with Frontiers.   And if they were I don't think Andrew would've dropped a rating like that either.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Bolsters on December 11, 2017, 04:54:03 AM
So now he's going to shit all over everything Frontiers?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on December 11, 2017, 08:31:28 AM
Jesus, mr.com rated the new Sweet and Lynch 45%!!  Fuck, I haven't listened to it and probably never will but Jesus it must be bad.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day 😀
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2017, 01:55:59 PM
Jesus, mr.com rated the new Sweet and Lynch 45%!!  Fuck, I haven't listened to it and probably never will but Jesus it must be bad.

What  a load of crap that rating is.........it might not be a great album but it has more going for it than 99% of the stuff he rates 99%  ;D

Gotta say though, the few songs I heard were pretty damn shithouse.  I'm surprised Frontiers is still his friend after that review.

That ship sailed a while ago - they're not buddies at all these days.  If you have a look around his site you won't find much to do with Frontiers.   And if they were I don't think Andrew would've dropped a rating like that either.

Fair call.  Yeah, it's more a lot with his own label now you make me think.  Oh well.  It's all shit these days really.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: FreezingPoint on December 11, 2017, 02:38:55 PM
New W.E.T.

https://youtu.be/oyqPN8KGKFk

Martensson is really pissing me off now.  From the brilliance of the debut, this is as boring and generic as anyhing on the second album and anything he's done since maybe moreso.  Actually the Nordic Union had more thought and life than this.  Why the fuck is Robert Sall even in this, he's like the kid that's picked last for the footy team just because he's there.  I know you guys don't like Work of Art but his songwriting skills could be utilised in this band rather than Martensson doing his best Timo Tolkki songwriting impression.

I didn't want to mention this as I thought it was shit too and wanted to wait for someone else :lol

Most of the fans seem to think it's fantastic but it's just all so familiar and boring.

I swear one day "generic Frontiers production" is going to make me physically ill.

Is it me or do so many of these albums sound like the same band with different singers plugged in? What ever happened to unique guitarists who crafted their own tone? Drummers with their signature styles?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on December 11, 2017, 02:47:39 PM
New W.E.T.

https://youtu.be/oyqPN8KGKFk

Martensson is really pissing me off now.  From the brilliance of the debut, this is as boring and generic as anyhing on the second album and anything he's done since maybe moreso.  Actually the Nordic Union had more thought and life than this.  Why the fuck is Robert Sall even in this, he's like the kid that's picked last for the footy team just because he's there.  I know you guys don't like Work of Art but his songwriting skills could be utilised in this band rather than Martensson doing his best Timo Tolkki songwriting impression.

I didn't want to mention this as I thought it was shit too and wanted to wait for someone else :lol

Most of the fans seem to think it's fantastic but it's just all so familiar and boring.

I swear one day "generic Frontiers production" is going to make me physically ill.

Is it me or do so many of these albums sound like the same band with different singers plugged in? What ever happened to unique guitarists who crafted their own tone? Drummers with their signature styles?

You won't get any argument around here - the thread title says it all.   Frontiers are a blessing and a curse - they give the genre a presence and in some ways keep it alive , but it's Weekend At Bernies style alive  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on December 11, 2017, 02:50:06 PM
I still find it hard to believe that they made Weekend at Bernies part 2
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2017, 02:57:04 PM
New W.E.T.

https://youtu.be/oyqPN8KGKFk

Martensson is really pissing me off now.  From the brilliance of the debut, this is as boring and generic as anyhing on the second album and anything he's done since maybe moreso.  Actually the Nordic Union had more thought and life than this.  Why the fuck is Robert Sall even in this, he's like the kid that's picked last for the footy team just because he's there.  I know you guys don't like Work of Art but his songwriting skills could be utilised in this band rather than Martensson doing his best Timo Tolkki songwriting impression.

I didn't want to mention this as I thought it was shit too and wanted to wait for someone else :lol

Most of the fans seem to think it's fantastic but it's just all so familiar and boring.

I swear one day "generic Frontiers production" is going to make me physically ill.

Is it me or do so many of these albums sound like the same band with different singers plugged in? What ever happened to unique guitarists who crafted their own tone? Drummers with their signature styles?

If you have time, just go back and read the last 20 pages or so mate for a good old time.  As Brent said, we're with you.  I started this thread because at the time, Frontiers were doing AOR and melodic rock proud IMO, but it's quickly just plummeted into mediocrity.  As Brent said, it's good that they are there, but they are taking the piss now.  And it seems they have the rights to everything in the style.  It use to be bands outside of Frontiers doing good melodic rock too but it all seems to just go through them now.  I could be totally wrong but seems the outlets for the genre are getting suffocated by Frontiers.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2017, 02:58:26 PM
I still find it hard to believe that they made Weekend at Bernies part 2

It isn't that bad IMO.  I think the first one was an absolute classic and yes, it was so good it should have been left at that, but if you take the quality of the first one out of it and just focus on the second one for what it is, there's worse movies out there.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on December 11, 2017, 03:05:57 PM
I know, I didn't mind it either.  But it's still hard to believe they made it lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on December 11, 2017, 03:36:58 PM
Police Academy would be the better analogy, no?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2017, 04:04:28 PM
Police Academy would be the better analogy, no?

I don't think I've ever seen a single Police Academy movie.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Big Hath on December 11, 2017, 10:43:15 PM
Police Academy would be the better analogy, no?

I don't think I've ever seen a single Police Academy movie.

meet me at The Blue Oyster around midnight or so.  I hear they have a late night showing.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2017, 04:05:35 AM
Police Academy would be the better analogy, no?

I don't think I've ever seen a single Police Academy movie.

meet me at The Blue Oyster around midnight or so.  I hear they have a late night showing.

That went right over my head bro.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on December 12, 2017, 05:56:21 AM
New W.E.T.

https://youtu.be/oyqPN8KGKFk

Martensson is really pissing me off now.  From the brilliance of the debut, this is as boring and generic as anyhing on the second album and anything he's done since maybe moreso.  Actually the Nordic Union had more thought and life than this.  Why the fuck is Robert Sall even in this, he's like the kid that's picked last for the footy team just because he's there.  I know you guys don't like Work of Art but his songwriting skills could be utilised in this band rather than Martensson doing his best Timo Tolkki songwriting impression.

I didn't want to mention this as I thought it was shit too and wanted to wait for someone else :lol

Most of the fans seem to think it's fantastic but it's just all so familiar and boring.

I swear one day "generic Frontiers production" is going to make me physically ill.

Is it me or do so many of these albums sound like the same band with different singers plugged in? What ever happened to unique guitarists who crafted their own tone? Drummers with their signature styles?

No one has a signature tone or style anymore. No one experiments to find a sound. Just go to YouTube to learn how the guy does it and copy. No need to try to work it out just from the record. Need a sound? Dial it in from the amp modeller..

Or do a Frontiers and get the same writers, producer, keyboardist and get a singer in.

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on December 12, 2017, 01:05:23 PM

No one has a signature tone or style anymore. No one experiments to find a sound. Just go to YouTube to learn how the guy does it and copy. No need to try to work it out just from the record. Need a sound? Dial it in from the amp modeller..

Or do a Frontiers and get the same writers, producer, keyboardist and get a singer in.

And catch up with your new bandmates for the first time at the video shoot  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on December 12, 2017, 02:07:56 PM

No one has a signature tone or style anymore. No one experiments to find a sound. Just go to YouTube to learn how the guy does it and copy. No need to try to work it out just from the record. Need a sound? Dial it in from the amp modeller..

Or do a Frontiers and get the same writers, producer, keyboardist and get a singer in.

And catch up with your new bandmates for the first time at the video shoot  ;D

In a soggy warehouse...
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2017, 02:18:42 PM

No one has a signature tone or style anymore. No one experiments to find a sound. Just go to YouTube to learn how the guy does it and copy. No need to try to work it out just from the record. Need a sound? Dial it in from the amp modeller..

Or do a Frontiers and get the same writers, producer, keyboardist and get a singer in.

And catch up with your new bandmates for the first time at the video shoot  ;D

In a soggy warehouse...

And shoot the same video three times just to a different version of the same song on the album.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on December 22, 2017, 04:01:20 PM
I had to rescue the thread from Page 2.

Quote from: Frontiers FB Page
BREAKING NEWS: BULLETBOYS' new album, "From Out Of The Skies" will be released on CD/LP/MP3 on March 23, 2018! Pre-orders are available now and the first single and music video, "D-Evil" will be out on January 4th!

(https://www.gifbin.com/bin/1232550426_worf%20face%20palm.gif)

I saw Poison/Slaughter/Bullet Boys in 1990 or '91 I think.  Don't judge.  Bullet Boys sucked, even for me!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on December 22, 2017, 04:32:03 PM
I had to rescue the thread from Page 2.

No, no you didn't. ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2017, 04:43:49 PM
The Bulletboys singer is a tool and a half but I thought their debut was alright.  The last album was "solid" mid 70's stuff IMO so I'm sure there's a lot worse coming out of Frontiers.  At least it probably won't have the standard Frontiers sound.

I think I need to start a new thread for Tim, because there's not enough thanks Kev.  :)


Name your favourites from these 4 awesome glam rock/metal bands :  Poison, Bulletboys,Slaughter,Winger.  You must select 4 options.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on December 22, 2017, 04:55:26 PM
I think I need to start a new thread for Tim, because there's not enough thanks Kev.  :)

 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on December 22, 2017, 09:12:26 PM
Methinks Kev saw he hadn't created enough polls or threads this year, and is now catching up.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2017, 04:08:37 AM
Name your favourites from these 4 awesome glam rock/metal bands :  Poison, Bulletboys,Slaughter,Winger.  You must select 4 options.

Winger
Winger
Winger
Winger
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2018, 04:00:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNmTMuQ1tYo

I think this is the same track that was released not long ago, but it's still boring generic crap from Erik.  I'm convinced this is a dodgy Eclipse left over.  Robert Sall should probably just focus on WOA as this makes WOA look like a fucking masterpiece of a band.  The comments are astounding me too.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on January 04, 2018, 04:43:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNmTMuQ1tYo

I think this is the same track that was released not long ago, but it's still boring generic crap from Erik.  I'm convinced this is a dodgy Eclipse left over.  Robert Sall should probably just focus on WOA as this makes WOA look like a fucking masterpiece of a band.  The comments are astounding me too.

It's a shame but I don't much bother with anything related to Martennson any more - I can only take so much of the same old , same old.   Even JSS has been patchy for the most part for some time and he's one of my all time faves.   Damage Control was pretty good and the latest is good without much in the way of standout tracks.  I really miss Talisman.  :'(
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on January 04, 2018, 10:41:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNmTMuQ1tYo

I think this is the same track that was released not long ago, but it's still boring generic crap from Erik.  I'm convinced this is a dodgy Eclipse left over.  Robert Sall should probably just focus on WOA as this makes WOA look like a fucking masterpiece of a band.  The comments are astounding me too.

It's a shame but I don't much bother with anything related to Martennson any more - I can only take so much of the same old , same old.   Even JSS has been patchy for the most part for some time and he's one of my all time faves.   Damage Control was pretty good and the latest is good without much in the way of standout tracks.  I really miss Talisman.  :'(

Agree with all that apart from I didnt really bother with Damage Control after the first listen. JSS vocal melodies are getting pretty samey.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2018, 01:09:12 PM
I've always said it, I love Damage Control, brilliant melodic rock album.  The new one was definitely not too bad but as Brent said no real standouts or anything to make me come back to it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on January 04, 2018, 01:30:54 PM
Frontiers are singlehandedly killing this thread 😀
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 05, 2018, 04:03:29 AM
Frontiers are singlehandedly killing this thread 😀

On the other hand, it could be the only thing keeping it alive too.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on January 05, 2018, 05:45:37 AM
Frontiers are singlehandedly killing this thread 😀

On the other hand, it could be the only thing keeping it alive too.  :lol

(https://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/George-Costanza-Winking.gif)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Anguyen92 on January 05, 2018, 08:28:55 AM
I mean is there any other prominent labels that has this brand of rock?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2018, 05:12:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkY2Zd_79o&t=0s

I don't know who these guys are, but Guthrie is on this which is cool but this is actually some decent classic style melodic rock.  Although the singer is funny as fuck in this atrocious Frontiers clip.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on January 13, 2018, 09:53:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkY2Zd_79o&t=0s

I don't know who these guys are, but Guthrie is on this which is cool but this is actually some decent classic style melodic rock.  Although the singer is funny as fuck in this atrocious Frontiers clip.

Thats John Payne from the AOR version of Asia. Great voice.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on January 13, 2018, 10:55:40 AM
I enjoyed that. Sounded very much like the Payne era Asia. Guthrie is awesome
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2018, 01:13:11 PM
Cool, thanks Paul. I dont much about Asia. Yeah love Guthrie on this.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on January 13, 2018, 07:12:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkY2Zd_79o&t=0s

I don't know who these guys are, but Guthrie is on this which is cool but this is actually some decent classic style melodic rock.  Although the singer is funny as fuck in this atrocious Frontiers clip.

Even funnier is the fact that Payne is not trying to be funny .  I used to watch his videos just to watch his moves/facial expressions - as you say, funny as fuck :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on January 13, 2018, 07:15:50 PM
There's a lot of foul language going on here for The Wuss Thread.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2018, 03:41:41 AM
There's a lot of foul language going on here for The Wuss Thread.

A real man can accept his man love for Kip Winger Tim.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2018, 03:42:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkY2Zd_79o&t=0s

I don't know who these guys are, but Guthrie is on this which is cool but this is actually some decent classic style melodic rock.  Although the singer is funny as fuck in this atrocious Frontiers clip.

Even funnier is the fact that Payne is not trying to be funny .  I used to watch his videos just to watch his moves/facial expressions - as you say, funny as fuck :lol

I'll have to check out more clips of him then haha.  What did you think of this song Brent?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on January 14, 2018, 04:12:14 AM
I played Asias Aria last night. Still a very good AOR album. Very different from their early prog pop/rock approach, but Id take Paynes voice over Wettons
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2018, 03:00:59 PM
Best Asia album to check out?  I don't think from what I've heard I'd be big into them, but what's a good one to check out?  I think I'd like the AOR stuff more than the prog stuff from the little I've heard.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on January 14, 2018, 03:04:45 PM
Hmm. First ones a classic. I have a soft spot for Astra, very 80s, and Aria is worth a go but its fairly laid back stuff. Theres loads of their albums I havent heard though.

That D7kes of the Orient album has also Jeff Kollman and Bruce Bouillet on it so the playing should be ok😀
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2018, 03:26:41 PM
Hmm. First ones a classic. I have a soft spot for Astra, very 80s, and Aria is worth a go but its fairly laid back stuff. Theres loads of their albums I havent heard though.

That D7kes of the Orient album has also Jeff Kollman and Bruce Bouillet on it so the playing should be ok😀

Yeah, I saw Bruce was on it too, he's awesome.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on January 15, 2018, 08:21:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkY2Zd_79o&t=0s

I don't know who these guys are, but Guthrie is on this which is cool but this is actually some decent classic style melodic rock.  Although the singer is funny as fuck in this atrocious Frontiers clip.

Even funnier is the fact that Payne is not trying to be funny .  I used to watch his videos just to watch his moves/facial expressions - as you say, funny as fuck :lol

I'll have to check out more clips of him then haha.  What did you think of this song Brent?

I don't mind it Kade (better if I don't watch the vid :lol  ).   The solo section was the highlight for me but I find it weird that they left in a couple of badly fretted notes by Guthrie.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on January 16, 2018, 12:18:30 PM
Im pretty sure if they are badly fretted they are meant to be  :lol Guthrie doesnt make mistakes!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: gazinwales on January 16, 2018, 01:24:20 PM
I'm a big fan of the Payne Asia albums, all of them have their own merits.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2018, 03:35:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkY2Zd_79o&t=0s

I don't know who these guys are, but Guthrie is on this which is cool but this is actually some decent classic style melodic rock.  Although the singer is funny as fuck in this atrocious Frontiers clip.

Even funnier is the fact that Payne is not trying to be funny .  I used to watch his videos just to watch his moves/facial expressions - as you say, funny as fuck :lol

I'll have to check out more clips of him then haha.  What did you think of this song Brent?

I don't mind it Kade (better if I don't watch the vid :lol  ).   The solo section was the highlight for me but I find it weird that they left in a couple of badly fretted notes by Guthrie.

I'll have to re listen but I didn't notice anything off.  He does have a pretty distinct jazzy style.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2018, 12:07:48 PM
Just been on Facebook and saw that Zeno Roth has died, brother of Uli and melodic rocker in his own right. Decent melodic rock stuff if you havent heard of him. RIP.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on February 06, 2018, 02:06:25 PM
Just been on Facebook and saw that Zeno Roth has died, brother of Uli and melodic rocker in his own right. Decent melodic rock stuff if you havent heard of him. RIP.


Sad to hear that Paul.   He had a place in my childhood listening - first with Zenology (from which was born the band Fair Warning) , then back to the debut and later Listen To The Light.   He had his own style and sound which is half the battle with me.


R.I.P  Zeno  :-\
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 02:10:10 PM
Just been on Facebook and saw that Zeno Roth has died, brother of Uli and melodic rocker in his own right. Decent melodic rock stuff if you havent heard of him. RIP.

Don't know him or heard anything from him but RIP.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on February 06, 2018, 02:47:38 PM
Just been on Facebook and saw that Zeno Roth has died, brother of Uli and melodic rocker in his own right. Decent melodic rock stuff if you havent heard of him. RIP.

Don't know him or heard anything from him but RIP.

I seem to be saying this a lot lately but he was featured in a recent podcast :lol   the U-Z's of hard rock rarities.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2018, 02:59:23 PM
Its almost like we take you for granted Brent...  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 03:05:16 PM
It’s almost like we take you for granted Brent...  :biggrin:

We kind of do.  The podcasts are amazing and tons of great tunes but I think it's human nature to take and say thank you and move on and do any of us really don't dive into what Brent does?  After my roulette I may go back and explore more when I have time also as there is so much there for us to get into.

Saying that, we all still do really enjoy and appreciate it and will lap up the next one.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2018, 03:10:23 PM
I have to force myself to limit the explorations to 10-15 of the *BEST* of the Best of from B&B.  I seriously had about 30 albums from the first few podcasts to check out.  My wallet couldn't take it.

But I am anxiously awaiting the 'best of 2017'.  I still spin the BEST of Brent 2016 albums regularly - and many individual songs.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 06, 2018, 03:20:41 PM
I have to force myself to limit the explorations to 10-15 of the *BEST* of the Best of from B&B.  I seriously had about 30 albums from the first few podcasts to check out.  My wallet couldn't take it.

But I am anxiously awaiting the 'best of 2017'.  I still spin the BEST of Brent 2016 albums regularly - and many individual songs.

That's cool then.  I guess since I've lost interest in exploring new music the last couple of years doesn't help and would like to hear the 2017, but again, I probably won't listen until after my roulette.  There is so much the last 2 years I wouldn't have heard or even have any idea about.

Life gets in the way, but it needs to change.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on February 06, 2018, 07:54:39 PM
If I risk my three-peat roulette winning streak and join the wolfking roulette (haven't done one in ages as the shows take up so much time) I might kill two birds with one stone and set myself the challenge of only sending stuff from my Best of 2017 and see how we go  ;D

I am sitting here working on a show as we speak.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2018, 03:45:42 AM
If I risk my three-peat roulette winning streak and join the wolfking roulette (haven't done one in ages as the shows take up so much time) I might kill two birds with one stone and set myself the challenge of only sending stuff from my Best of 2017 and see how we go  ;D

I am sitting here working on a show as we speak.

Funny you mention that, as I've been so out of the loop the last couple of years, I'm thinking about pinching Dave's idea and just have maybe 2016/2017 releases as you guys won't struggle with that with what I've heard.

You obviously will be invited but up to you if you participate man, all good if you don't have the time.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on February 07, 2018, 03:50:26 AM
Perfect..........I'll be in amongst it mate.  The "if" was a bit iffy  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2018, 03:55:59 AM
Perfect..........I'll be in amongst it mate.  The "if" was a bit iffy  ;D

The whole thing will be iffy haha.

I have to work out what I'm looking for to be honest.  The newer stuff seems like the logical choice.  I doubt there's much older stuff I can be introduced to now that will really wow my, but the amount of releases you guys have been rating and pimping does have me intrigued.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on February 07, 2018, 04:24:51 AM
Here's hoping your roulette is at least solid  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on February 07, 2018, 04:53:43 AM
Funny you mention that, as I've been so out of the loop the last couple of years, I'm thinking about pinching Dave's idea and just have maybe 2016/2017 releases as you guys won't struggle with that with what I've heard.

Yeah, I could definitely do that without a problem, but there are a couple of 'older' items I was hoping to lay on you.  Of course, I can always do that outside of a roulette.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on February 07, 2018, 12:02:20 PM
My last roulette appearance was a bit ordinary  :biggrin:



And in before Chad demands I do a roulette  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on February 07, 2018, 02:43:28 PM
My last roulette appearance was a bit ordinary  :biggrin:



Hopefully you can progress to being a solid competitor.   
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2018, 02:50:42 PM
Funny you mention that, as I've been so out of the loop the last couple of years, I'm thinking about pinching Dave's idea and just have maybe 2016/2017 releases as you guys won't struggle with that with what I've heard.

Yeah, I could definitely do that without a problem, but there are a couple of 'older' items I was hoping to lay on you.  Of course, I can always do that outside of a roulette.

Thinking about later releases only but a couple of open rounds also chucked in for good measure.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on February 07, 2018, 04:07:32 PM
And in before Chad demands I do a roulette  :biggrin:

*Demands*

Hopefully you can progress to being a solid competitor.   

"Solid"...  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Groot on February 13, 2018, 08:53:51 AM
Voodoo Circle - Raised On Rock (2018)

Omg, what a blatant Whitesnake ripoff. I can't believe it, but they somehow pulled it off, with all its signature Sykes riff, fills and harmony leads. It's competently executed and i like it, but it's one brazen homage. The first half mimics the 1987 album and the second half goes back to earlier stages of Coverdales career.
I'm not saying it's great or anything, but it's fun, finding out what song they're stealing from.

It reminded me, I haven't heard from Sykes for ages. It's about time for him to step up and release a new album.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on February 14, 2018, 04:28:21 PM
Enjoyed it. The ripoffs are a bit brazen and jarring but they are ok when they are a bit more subtle about it. The Shake My Tree rip-off is a bit obvious.

The singer is a bit one dimensional.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Groot on February 14, 2018, 04:56:49 PM
Yes, half of the songs are too obvious. The most shameless one is "Where Is World We Love",  being "Is This Love" with a slightly different vocal line. I can agree with your assessment about the singer, but sometimes he's really nailing it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on March 05, 2018, 02:46:09 PM
New Vega not that any of you guys really like them;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsJwetamgXA

For some reason I really just like the sound of these guys, but this one is pretty meh.  At least they do have their own sound unlike every other Frontiers project.  Hopefully the rest isn't as soft.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on March 31, 2018, 03:12:00 PM
Resurrecting the wuss thread with this, JK Northrop. Sounds decent.

https://youtu.be/TAeHa1fPh4Q
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on March 31, 2018, 03:44:00 PM
I've never heard of this guy but this album is already called "melodic hard rock masterpiece".  Seems like they be overstating things.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on March 31, 2018, 03:53:09 PM
I've never heard of this guy but this album is already called "melodic hard rock masterpiece".  Seems like they be overstating things.

Indeed. But they wouldnt sell too many if they called it Lmore of the same old shit. Not that it will sell many.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on March 31, 2018, 04:05:17 PM
haha true
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on March 31, 2018, 06:45:43 PM
Holy shit does that suck!!



Resurrecting the wuss thread with this, JK Northrop. Sounds decent.

Wow, even the Brits get this April Fool's thing!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on March 31, 2018, 07:47:58 PM
Resurrecting the wuss thread with this, JK Northrop. Sounds decent.

https://youtu.be/TAeHa1fPh4Q

Made it through 56 seconds.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on April 01, 2018, 11:51:22 AM
Holy shit does that suck!!



Resurrecting the wuss thread with this, JK Northrop. Sounds decent.

Wow, even the Brits get this April Fool's thing!

Hey you can keep your Halloween- we invented April Fools  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2018, 04:54:13 AM
Holy shit does that suck!!



Resurrecting the wuss thread with this, JK Northrop. Sounds decent.

Wow, even the Brits get this April Fool's thing!

Hey you can keep your Halloween- we invented April Fools  :biggrin:

Er, it's HELLoween Paul, jeez.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on April 02, 2018, 05:58:41 AM
Holy shit does that suck!!



Resurrecting the wuss thread with this, JK Northrop. Sounds decent.

Wow, even the Brits get this April Fool's thing!

Hey you can keep your Halloween- we invented April Fools  :biggrin:

Er, it's HELLoween Paul, jeez.

Not in the wuss thread Kade  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2018, 07:33:56 AM
Resurrecting the wuss thread with this, JK Northrop. Sounds decent.

https://youtu.be/TAeHa1fPh4Q

Made it through 56 seconds.

That's 53 seconds longer than me.  Seriously, I heard that drum beat and opening cord and was like ...

(https://replygif.net/i/160.gif)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Zook on April 02, 2018, 02:00:35 PM
Resurrecting the wuss thread with this, JK Northrop. Sounds decent.

https://youtu.be/TAeHa1fPh4Q

Made it through 56 seconds.

That's 53 seconds longer than me.  Seriously, I heard that drum beat and opening cord and was like ...

(https://replygif.net/i/160.gif)

I have a canker sore on my tongue and just chewed up a tootsie pop right when I clicked the video, so it was literally painful to listen to.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on April 02, 2018, 02:40:25 PM
Resurrecting the wuss thread with this, JK Northrop. Sounds decent.

https://youtu.be/TAeHa1fPh4Q

Made it through 56 seconds.

That's 53 seconds longer than me.  Seriously, I heard that drum beat and opening cord and was like ...

(https://replygif.net/i/160.gif)

Dont listen to the new James Christian then. Boyband shite.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2018, 03:01:25 PM
I'm proud to say that I didn't even know there was a new James Christian release.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 02, 2018, 04:08:34 PM
I'm proud to say that I didn't even know there was a new James Christian release.

I'm proud to say that I don't even know who James Christian is.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2018, 04:10:14 PM
I'm proud to say that I didn't even know there was a new James Christian release.

I'm proud to say that I don't even know who James Christian is.

Not something to be proud of Tim.  Singer from House of Lords.  Although, yeah, what I've heard from his new one is fucking unbelievably crap!  Unreal what some of these artists are becoming.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 02, 2018, 04:46:52 PM
I feel no shame.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2018, 05:02:47 PM
I feel no shame.

 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on April 02, 2018, 05:24:50 PM
James Christian round for TAC Roulette V.3   :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 02, 2018, 06:16:53 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/9ywdx.jpg)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on April 04, 2018, 05:57:09 PM
One round, we should all just conspire to send him the ultimate in pussy music. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2018, 06:20:25 PM
One round, we should all just conspire to send him the ultimate in pussy music.

inb4 Tim comes and says we already did with the Winger round.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 04, 2018, 07:16:44 PM
One round, we should all just conspire to send him the ultimate in pussy music.

Gee, that's pretty much how you treated every round in my first roulette. ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on April 04, 2018, 07:24:54 PM
I think I need to get Wildranger and Kev onto some Winger polls. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 04, 2018, 07:27:17 PM
Why curb the nonsense?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2018, 08:32:47 PM
I think I need to get Wildranger and Kev onto some Winger polls.

Sounds good to me.

10 pics of Kip, which one is the sexiest.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on April 04, 2018, 08:39:29 PM
I think I need to get Wildranger and Kev onto some Winger polls.

Sounds good to me.

10 pics of Kip, which one is the sexiest.

Don't need a poll to answer that do we Tim  ?   ;D    I reckon that photo I posted way back when has had more mileage than just about any other on DTF  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2018, 04:03:43 PM
Haha check out this horseshit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu_thFnflsY

Fuck Frontiers were good 10 years ago, fuck me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Zook on April 06, 2018, 09:28:15 AM
Can we get another Magnificent album already? That album was full of cheesy love songs but they were so well written and performed, and of course Michael Eriksen on vocals being amazing. Definitely a diamond in the rough. There are good bands on the Frontiers label, but what's with all the garbage that gets posted here all the time? Who is writing that shit, and how and why is it getting the greenlight? Is Frontiers a multimilllion dollar company that can afford such losses? These bands surely are not making any money for the label. I understand that even a band as good as The Magnificent probably didn't sell too many albums, but why aren't they throwing their money at them to make more music? That was fucking awful, wolfking.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on April 06, 2018, 04:09:11 PM
That was awful. I hate major keys 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2018, 04:53:02 PM
Can we get another Magnificent album already? That album was full of cheesy love songs but they were so well written and performed, and of course Michael Eriksen on vocals being amazing. Definitely a diamond in the rough. There are good bands on the Frontiers label, but what's with all the garbage that gets posted here all the time? Who is writing that shit, and how and why is it getting the greenlight? Is Frontiers a multimilllion dollar company that can afford such losses? These bands surely are not making any money for the label. I understand that even a band as good as The Magnificent probably didn't sell too many albums, but why aren't they throwing their money at them to make more music? That was fucking awful, wolfking.

It's funny, I wanted to change things up so just put like a random playlist of songs on a USB for the car and I put quite a few songs from this album on there.  I forgot how well crafted and classy melodic rock this album is.  Thought the exact same thing that it's such a shame there was never a second one.

I'm with you on the Frontiers stuff mate, it's hard to fathom.  As I said 8-10 years ago most of what they were doing had reputable people behind them with great songwriting, production and thought put behind it, how they have got to this is beyond me.  I also don't understand who is funding the amount of shit that's getting churned out.  Surely people still aren't paying for these no name fuckass shithouse motherfuckers producing dumb, souless crap that's been done thousands of times before yet better?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on April 06, 2018, 04:58:29 PM
I'd say 1 in 15 Frontiers is good.  Maybe even 1 in 20.  And I can't remember the last time a patch-work group of artists was any good.  Was The Ferrymen a Frontiers release?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2018, 05:08:39 PM
I'd say 1 in 15 Frontiers is good.  Maybe even 1 in 20.  And I can't remember the last time a patch-work group of artists was any good.  Was The Ferrymen a Frontiers release?

Anything Magus is Frontiers, but that's all him.

I find it strange Primal Fear is still signed with them, but again, that'll be a Magnus thing.

Yeah, The Ferrymen was probably the last one I bought, the Jorn too which I didn't really like. 

Ones coming up that will be worth a listen will be the Stryper, Gus G and the Vega (even though I'll be the only one thinking that)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on April 06, 2018, 05:23:33 PM
I'll give Vega a go, but have very low expectations.  Gus G I'm looking forward to.  Stryper ... meh.  Never was much of a fan (out of apathy, not that I actively wasn't a fan).
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 06, 2018, 06:06:05 PM
I'll give Vega a go, but have very low expectations.  Gus G I'm looking forward to.  Stryper ... meh.  Never was much of a fan (out of apathy, not that I actively wasn't a fan).

I doubt you'll like Vega.  I've followed them from their first album and just love their sound.  The albums to try are What the Hell and Stereo Messiah.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on April 06, 2018, 09:25:43 PM
They had one tune on one of the the MRR compilation discs (which I did buy from Andrew to throw him a bone a few years back).  I was just listening to those recently, and took notice of the Vega track - Into The Wild.  I dug it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on April 07, 2018, 08:00:48 AM
Vega dont do it for me at all. Too polished and sterile.
There really isnt much from Frontiers thats worth a listen, in fact, if its on a Frontiers its probably a good indication that it will be shit.

Not looking forward to the Stryper at all. Michael Sweet has spread himself a bit thin in recent years and his voice is starting to grate on me.

Primal Fear should be good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 08, 2018, 03:55:08 AM
I'm having a listen to the new W.E.T.  4 songs in and I'm unimpressed.  Uninspiring and generic and Erik needs to take a good hard long look at himself.  I'll listen to the whole thing though.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2018, 05:33:46 AM
I was excited to check this Dukes of the Orient out as the first track released I think is one of the coolest and freshest AOR tracks Frontiers have released in a while, but unfortunately, the rest just seems pretty flat and not that inspiring.  Nice sound and atmosphere overall but nothing else like this track.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2018, 05:41:46 AM
New Sunstorm;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAqLNMp2y7c

Pretty generic, sounds like the last one, which I didn't mind. 

Hopefully Joe recovers too, suffered a heart attack only a few days ago.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2018, 05:54:47 AM
Holy shit!  Didn't know that.  Not a serious one I suppose?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: ProfessorPeart on April 17, 2018, 09:42:57 AM
Don't know about anyone else, but there is a Frontiers release that is on my radar.

Spirits of Fire - Tim Owens, Chris Caffrey, Steve DiGiorgio, Mark Zonder / Produced by Roy Z

The music can best be described as classic Priest meets Savatage.

https://www.frontiers.it/news/10958
https://www.facebook.com/SpiritsOfFireBand/

According to their Facebook page, they just started mixing in March. Should see the album in a few months, hopefully.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on April 17, 2018, 11:34:57 AM
I was excited to check this Dukes of the Orient out as the first track released I think is one of the coolest and freshest AOR tracks Frontiers have released in a while, but unfortunately, the rest just seems pretty flat and not that inspiring.  Nice sound and atmosphere overall but nothing else like this track.

I quite liked it. It is a bit samey throughout but enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 17, 2018, 11:43:43 AM
Just on this page alone...

That was awful.

I'd say 1 in 15 Frontiers is good.  Maybe even 1 in 20.

too which I didn't really like. 

I'll give ..... a go, but have very low expectations. 

I doubt you'll like ....

....... don’t do it for me at all.

There really isn’t much from Frontiers that’s worth a listen, in fact, if it’s on a Frontiers it’s probably a good indication that it will be shit.

Not looking forward to the .........at all. ........... has spread himself a bit thin in recent years and his voice is starting to grate on me.

I'm having a listen to the new ........  4 songs in and I'm unimpressed.

  Uninspiring and generic

the rest just seems pretty flat and not that inspiring. 

Pretty generic, sounds like the last one

It is a bit samey throughout


 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2018, 12:20:27 PM
So what are you saying?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on April 17, 2018, 01:14:16 PM
Yeah, Frontiers are shit.

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on April 17, 2018, 01:26:39 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 19, 2018, 06:54:34 AM
Just on this page alone...

That was awful.

I'd say 1 in 15 Frontiers is good.  Maybe even 1 in 20.

too which I didn't really like. 

I'll give ..... a go, but have very low expectations. 

I doubt you'll like ....

....... dont do it for me at all.

There really isnt much from Frontiers thats worth a listen, in fact, if its on a Frontiers its probably a good indication that it will be shit.

Not looking forward to the .........at all. ........... has spread himself a bit thin in recent years and his voice is starting to grate on me.

I'm having a listen to the new ........  4 songs in and I'm unimpressed.

  Uninspiring and generic

the rest just seems pretty flat and not that inspiring. 

Pretty generic, sounds like the last one

It is a bit samey throughout


 :lol

What's your point Tim?

Uh....Frontiers round in my roulette anyone?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on April 19, 2018, 06:58:07 AM
The round where Solid is the top rating you can get.   
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 19, 2018, 07:02:07 AM
I've gone to the future and have already posted snippets.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on April 20, 2018, 03:43:12 PM
I've gone to the future and have already posted snippets.

:clap:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: ozzy554 on April 20, 2018, 03:52:19 PM
I did not expect Refuge to be a Frontiers release https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwSYEKLpnGY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwSYEKLpnGY)

Sounds like Rage which of course I expected lol. So if you Rage you'll probably like this
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Stadler on April 20, 2018, 03:52:50 PM
So I went to page one to see what this thread was about and I noted this in the OP:

"(I know this won't get many hits) :)"

Then I notice that I have to go all the way to page 151 to post.   Boom.

So is this just AOR, or is it specifically the stuff like Revolution Saints, which just smacks of someone trying really hard to recreate Asia without the magical songwriting of Wetton/Downes? 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Anguyen92 on April 20, 2018, 04:22:57 PM
So I went to page one to see what this thread was about and I noted this in the OP:

"(I know this won't get many hits) :)"

Then I notice that I have to go all the way to page 151 to post.   Boom.

So is this just AOR, or is it specifically the stuff like Revolution Saints, which just smacks of someone trying really hard to recreate Asia without the magical songwriting of Wetton/Downes?

From what I've read in these posts in this thread, this thread has mainly gone the route of the latter......
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on June 08, 2018, 03:29:23 AM
Wow, rescued the thread from the very bottom of page 4. Shows how little quality there is in the genre.

And the new Treat song isn't going to change that. Looks like Coup de Grace was a one off as the last album was Issa thread ordinary 😁

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=AqXYy_wr4Ng
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on June 08, 2018, 03:42:59 AM
Wow, rescued the thread from the very bottom of page 4. Shows how little quality there is in the genre.

And the new Treat song isn't going to change that. Looks like Coup de Grace was a one off as the last album was Issa thread ordinary 😁

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=AqXYy_wr4Ng

Gawd :lol

They should've stayed retired instead of doing a Scorpions.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2018, 06:36:55 AM
It's okay for a ballad, I guess, but it's still a generic ballad.  Worrying if this is the lead song.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on June 08, 2018, 07:13:09 AM
90% of Frontiers output worries me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2018, 04:09:02 PM
90% of Frontiers output worries me.

Just 90%?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: gazinwales on June 08, 2018, 07:07:42 PM
Its not just the dodgy music either, their CD packaging is also generally very poor.
If I have to buy a Frontiers release I'll usually get the Japan/Korean version instead.
The colours are usually horrible and that silver shiny sticker on the back of every release....
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on June 08, 2018, 09:18:33 PM
Wow, rescued the thread from the very bottom of page 4. Shows how little quality there is in the genre.

And the new Treat song isn't going to change that. Looks like Coup de Grace was a one off as the last album was Issa thread ordinary 😁

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=AqXYy_wr4Ng

Didn't care for this Treat song, turned it off fairly quickly.

But a related song from a band called Dream Child was pretty good.  Thats a frontiers song, but I didn't mind that at all.  Had a bit of a Dio vibe to it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on June 09, 2018, 04:20:31 AM
Wow, rescued the thread from the very bottom of page 4. Shows how little quality there is in the genre.

And the new Treat song isn't going to change that. Looks like Coup de Grace was a one off as the last album was Issa thread ordinary 😁

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=AqXYy_wr4Ng

Didn't care for this Treat song, turned it off fairly quickly.

But a related song from a band called Dream Child was pretty good.  Thats a frontiers song, but I didn't mind that at all.  Had a bit of a Dio vibe to it.

I shared that one in our other thread. Craig Goldy, the singer from Helker, some other names. Has potential.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on June 09, 2018, 04:57:41 AM
Wow, rescued the thread from the very bottom of page 4. Shows how little quality there is in the genre.

And the new Treat song isn't going to change that. Looks like Coup de Grace was a one off as the last album was Issa thread ordinary 😁

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=AqXYy_wr4Ng

Didn't care for this Treat song, turned it off fairly quickly.

But a related song from a band called Dream Child was pretty good.  Thats a frontiers song, but I didn't mind that at all.  Had a bit of a Dio vibe to it.

I shared that one in our other thread. Craig Goldy, the singer from Helker, some other names. Has potential.

The grammar on this sentence confused the shit out of me - I thought you were implying that Craig Goldy is the singer from Helker, when it's in fact Diego Valdez is the (ex) Helker singer that is a vocal dead ringer for RJD).
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on June 09, 2018, 09:50:23 AM
Wow, rescued the thread from the very bottom of page 4. Shows how little quality there is in the genre.

And the new Treat song isn't going to change that. Looks like Coup de Grace was a one off as the last album was Issa thread ordinary 😁

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=AqXYy_wr4Ng

Didn't care for this Treat song, turned it off fairly quickly.

But a related song from a band called Dream Child was pretty good.  Thats a frontiers song, but I didn't mind that at all.  Had a bit of a Dio vibe to it.

I shared that one in our other thread. Craig Goldy, the singer from Helker, some other names. Has potential.

The grammar on this sentence confused the shit out of me - I thought you were implying that Craig Goldy is the singer from Helker, when it's in fact Diego Valdez is the (ex) Helker singer that is a vocal dead ringer for RJD).

Im Ill. I get a pass on the typing  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on June 09, 2018, 09:54:08 AM
No... your grammar was just a double entendre - without the cheekiness.

I'll give you the "ill" part... along with auto-correct.  ;)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on June 09, 2018, 09:59:58 AM
Give him a break Chad - auto-correct is bad enough  , but he's been stoned too.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on June 09, 2018, 11:59:45 AM
Give him a break Chad - auto-correct is bad enough  , but he's been stoned too.

nyuk nyuk nyuk.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on June 11, 2018, 05:45:03 AM
Its not just the dodgy music either, their CD packaging is also generally very poor.
If I have to buy a Frontiers release I'll usually get the Japan/Korean version instead.
The colours are usually horrible and that silver shiny sticker on the back of every release....

That sticker is a cunt.  I have a thing about any stickers being on my cd's and these are fucking impossible to get off, FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE!!!  They just have to stay there pissing me off.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Zook on June 11, 2018, 10:19:38 AM
I like the stickers. Kind of adds some specialness to the CD.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on June 11, 2018, 05:00:41 PM
I like the stickers. Kind of adds some specialness to the CD.

Being Frontiers, I thought that would make it special enough..
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on June 11, 2018, 06:29:38 PM
Stickers? I read Stinkers. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on June 20, 2018, 05:52:40 AM
Frontiers Del Vicchio factory no doubt, but would give it a 'solid'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqCK9YNKvjU

Chorus is a rip off something, can't put my finger on it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: BlobVanDam on June 20, 2018, 05:55:20 AM
Frontiers Del Vicchio factory no doubt, but would give it a 'solid'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqCK9YNKvjU

Chorus is a rip off something, can't put my finger on it.

Reminds me a bit of Giant - I'll See You In My Dreams
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on June 20, 2018, 06:01:02 AM
Frontiers Del Vicchio factory no doubt, but would give it a 'solid'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqCK9YNKvjU

Chorus is a rip off something, can't put my finger on it.

Reminds me a bit of Giant - I'll See You In My Dreams

Not sure if that's what I was thinking, but damn the chorus does have the exact same melody, so might very well be.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on June 20, 2018, 06:28:10 AM
Dammit... you know I'm a Gioelli fanboi, now I have to listen to this!

But I'm not pausing Vanden Plas for it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 20, 2018, 06:39:01 AM
Frontiers Del Vicchio factory no doubt, but would give it a 'solid'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqCK9YNKvjU

Chorus is a rip off something, can't put my finger on it.

Reminds me a bit of Giant - I'll See You In My Dreams

Not only a bit, it's remarkably similar, just in a different tempo.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on June 20, 2018, 03:53:40 PM
Solid.
I do love Gioellis voice.

But yeah, a rocked up SYIMD
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on June 21, 2018, 05:45:02 AM
I picked up the new Sunstorm while I was away cause I really liked the last one.  This one is basically the exact same album which is fine with me and what I expected, but Jesus, the production is fucking terrible.  Fuck you Del Vicchio.  I'm giving you a go here with your generic shit only casue it's JLT and Mularoni to an extent, but do you whore yourself that much that you are rushing production jobs now?  At least make your generic shit sound good.  Fuck me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on June 21, 2018, 05:57:30 AM
I was excited when I saw this new clip from King Company;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CUzybZ25Ek

Then I realised it was not Pasi and it's a fucking load of shit.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on June 23, 2018, 06:33:47 AM
I was excited when I saw this new clip from King Company;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CUzybZ25Ek

Then I realised it was not Pasi and it's a fucking load of shit.

Damn... I'm a big Pasi fan.  Didn't realize he was having vocal chord problems.   :-\  Gotta wrap my mind around this vocalist.  Not awful, but he's no Pasi - definitely can hear the 'Italian' in him ... almost sounds like Secret Sphere.  And fuck that video is cheesy.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Bolsters on June 23, 2018, 07:07:04 AM
Damn... I'm a big Pasi fan.  Didn't realize he was having vocal chord problems.
Neither did I. :(
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on June 24, 2018, 01:36:38 AM
Yeah, didn't know that either.  Hopefully he can recover.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on June 25, 2018, 01:15:45 PM
Wasnt sure whether this should go in the wuss thread or classic metal, but heres the new one from Leverage. New singer and second guitarist, have to say I miss the old singer. The new guy is good though.

Sort of grew on me as it went on, and its heavier than previously.

https://youtu.be/xQpEfv9S3RY
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: gazinwales on June 25, 2018, 01:48:45 PM
Yeah I also miss Pekka and Torsti on this, reminds me a lot of Bonnet era Rainbow.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on June 25, 2018, 03:56:27 PM
Interesting - not a band I have ever associated with that classic rock sound.  Probably not a bad idea to create a new identity with the new singer to some degree.

Got a little bit of Glenn Hughes about him so can understand why you like him Paul.  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on June 26, 2018, 03:53:14 PM
Interesting - not a band I have ever associated with that classic rock sound.  Probably not a bad idea to create a new identity with the new singer to some degree.

Got a little bit of Glenn Hughes about him so can understand why you like him Paul.  ;D

The good Glenn Hughes, not the Stevie Wonder wannabe 😀
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on June 27, 2018, 05:32:34 AM
Wasnt sure whether this should go in the wuss thread or classic metal, but heres the new one from Leverage. New singer and second guitarist, have to say I miss the old singer. The new guy is good though.

Sort of grew on me as it went on, and its heavier than previously.

https://youtu.be/xQpEfv9S3RY

Wow, I thought that was really rubbish, and I can't take the singer seriously.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on June 27, 2018, 05:43:19 AM
Wasnt sure whether this should go in the wuss thread or classic metal, but heres the new one from Leverage. New singer and second guitarist, have to say I miss the old singer. The new guy is good though.

Sort of grew on me as it went on, and its heavier than previously.

https://youtu.be/xQpEfv9S3RY

Wow, I thought that was really rubbish, and I can't take the singer seriously.

For the first half of the song I was the same, but as I said, it started to grow on me. I didnt love it or anything, and it sure isnt Tides ( that was a cracker).

Im really struggling to like anything new these days.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on August 13, 2018, 11:57:24 AM
Been a while since there's been any Frontiers news

Quote
BREAKING NEWS: Johnny Gioeli (Hardline, AXEL RUDI PELL OFFICIAL SITE) will release his debut solo album, "One Voice" on December 7, 2018! More details, plus first single & video will be released next month!

Tracklisting:
1. Drive
2. It
3. One Voice
4. Mind Melt
5. Running
6. Deeper
7. Let Me Know
8. Hit Me Once, Hit Ya Twice
9. Price We Pay
10. Out Of Here
11. Oh Fathers

(https://scontent.fykz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38845692_1867174726671903_3445558593191936000_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=ba7624799af499130d71beea9b1ac259&oe=5C0EB82C)

Yay!  Another AOR album with the opening track titled "Drive"   :lol

It's Gioelli, so I'll likely spin it.

But that tracklist...  :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on August 15, 2018, 12:47:21 AM
Didn't bother checking the one with Deen, couldn't give a fuck, probably won't bother with this either.

Hit Me Once, Hit Ya Twice?!  Hey Johnny, Adrenaline Mob called, they want their song title back.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on August 15, 2018, 01:06:31 AM
So is it all written by Del Vechio? If so, much as I love his voice I wont bother.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on August 15, 2018, 05:13:29 AM
So is it all written by Del Vechio? If so, much as I love his voice I wont bother.

Well since there is no other song writer in the world that exists according to Frontiers, you'd probably think so. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on August 15, 2018, 05:25:12 AM
I'll take the bullet on this one for you guys, and let you know how big of a turd it is.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Peter Mc on August 15, 2018, 06:39:02 AM
Haven't gone through all 152 pages but I will say that I always thought Frontiers put out bad records, however I really like the two Revolution Saints records so shoot me!  Sound like classic Journey to me and better than a number of actual Journey albums. 

Bought the Gioelli/Castronovo record as have always been a fan of Gioelli's stuff with Axel Rudi Pell since he took over from Soto.  It wasn't as good as Rev Saints but still passable AOR with a few duds, some lazy ends to songs and stuff as well.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on August 15, 2018, 07:00:39 AM
Haven't gone through all 152 pages but I will say that I always thought Frontiers put out bad records, however I really like the two Revolution Saints records so shoot me!  Sound like classic Journey to me and better than a number of actual Journey albums. 

Bought the Gioelli/Castronovo record as have always been a fan of Gioelli's stuff with Axel Rudi Pell since he took over from Soto.  It wasn't as good as Rev Saints but still passable AOR with a few duds, some lazy ends to songs and stuff as well.

I (and a few of use here) thought the first Rev Saints album was excellent.  I thought from start to finish it was really good melodic rock.  The second album I thought was mostly just generic filler.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on August 15, 2018, 07:39:25 AM
Haven't gone through all 152 pages but I will say that I always thought Frontiers put out bad records, .

Over the last 5-ish years, they've just MOSTLY put out bad records... imo 80-90% of the stuff is generic tripe.  There is the odd act that is good (eg, Primal Fear, Seventh Wonder, Lords of Black), and many albums that are really enjoyable (eg, King Company, Revolution Saints).  But so much of it is recycled shit that is nothing new - ffs, Ten has another album coming out this year, sure that'll be a 'page-turner'  ::)  Add on these forced collaborations that rarely work (eg, Kee of Hearts!; though Ferrymen is one exception), and the label is distributing mostly laughable stuff.  Who knows... maybe the run-rate of the generic shit helps keep the lights on, and we should be thankful that they stay alive so we do get the 10-20% of things that are worthwhile?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Peter Mc on August 15, 2018, 10:50:13 AM
Haven't gone through all 152 pages but I will say that I always thought Frontiers put out bad records, however I really like the two Revolution Saints records so shoot me!  Sound like classic Journey to me and better than a number of actual Journey albums. 

Bought the Gioelli/Castronovo record as have always been a fan of Gioelli's stuff with Axel Rudi Pell since he took over from Soto.  It wasn't as good as Rev Saints but still passable AOR with a few duds, some lazy ends to songs and stuff as well.

I (and a few of use here) thought the first Rev Saints album was excellent.  I thought from start to finish it was really good melodic rock.  The second album I thought was mostly just generic filler.

I may be influenced by having heard album number 2 first. It was given to me as a Xmas present and, after initial misgivings, I grew to really like it. I then discovered they had done an earlier album and bought that too. I agree that the first album is better but I think you are a little harsh on the second one. It has some good stuff on it too.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on August 15, 2018, 04:27:03 PM
Haven't gone through all 152 pages but I will say that I always thought Frontiers put out bad records, .

Over the last 5-ish years, they've just MOSTLY put out bad records... imo 80-90% of the stuff is generic tripe.  There is the odd act that is good (eg, Primal Fear, Seventh Wonder, Lords of Black), and many albums that are really enjoyable (eg, King Company, Revolution Saints).  But so much of it is recycled shit that is nothing new - ffs, Ten has another album coming out this year, sure that'll be a 'page-turner'  ::)  Add on these forced collaborations that rarely work (eg, Kee of Hearts!; though Ferrymen is one exception), and the label is distributing mostly laughable stuff.  Who knows... maybe the run-rate of the generic shit helps keep the lights on, and we should be thankful that they stay alive so we do get the 10-20% of things that are worthwhile?

The last Ten was quite enjoyable IMO, although there was some filler as always
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2018, 07:43:25 AM
With this thread languishing back around Page 5 , I thought I had better rescue it.

I know Kade likes some Work of Art.

Here's a rough mix/sample from the upcoming album (still some way off - no date)

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fmusicofworkofart%2Fvideos%2F721059694903870%2F&show_text=0&width=560
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on October 15, 2018, 10:52:02 AM
The first WOA album was pretty good - fluffy as shit, but enjoyable.  Tim hate's it - even though he probably never even listened to it.  I didn't have time for the 2nd release though.

Also... nice to 'see' you here Brent   :tup  How's that best of 2017 podcast coming along?   :D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2018, 11:31:13 AM
The first WOA album was pretty good - fluffy as shit, but enjoyable.  Tim hate's it - even though he probably never even listened to it.  I didn't have time for the 2nd release though.

Also... nice to 'see' you here Brent   :tup  How's that best of 2017 podcast coming along?   :D

Nice to see you Brent 😀

But for once Tim is right. Even pre- growl Tim would find that a wimpy pile of crap.
Ive just listened to Foreigner 4 in the car and this makes Foreigner sound like Slayer.

Don Henley would hav3 turned that down as too wimpy.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Podaar on October 15, 2018, 11:37:41 AM
Don Henley would hav3 turned that down as too wimpy.

 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on October 15, 2018, 01:22:02 PM
Holy shit does that blow!


Brent, what kind of sabbatical are you on?  Have you been kidnapped by the Queer Cult? You need to be deprogrammed. If you're gonna post once every three weeks, it's got to be better than that.  ;D

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: MoraWintersoul on October 15, 2018, 03:22:01 PM
Wasnt sure whether this should go in the wuss thread or classic metal, but heres the new one from Leverage. New singer and second guitarist, have to say I miss the old singer. The new guy is good though.

Sort of grew on me as it went on, and its heavier than previously.

https://youtu.be/xQpEfv9S3RY

Wow, I thought that was really rubbish, and I can't take the singer seriously.
Their whole EP is out now.

As a fan of Leverage since 2007 (I sure listened to random Finnish rock bands as a teen, whoop), I am so let down by the fact they're finally a thing again but Pekka is out. Like I'm so offended I feel like they should write me a check. I wonder if this is how all those annoying ORIGINAL SINGER ONLY Youtube comment assholes feel.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2018, 05:12:08 PM
With this thread languishing back around Page 5 , I thought I had better rescue it.

I know Kade likes some Work of Art.

Here's a rough mix/sample from the upcoming album (still some way off - no date)

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fmusicofworkofart%2Fvideos%2F721059694903870%2F&show_text=0&width=560

A guilty pleasure of mine.  This sounds exactly the same as everything else, but I'll look forward to this.  Lars and Robert have a good working relationship IMO.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2018, 04:03:45 PM
Jeez, just flicking around on youtube and Frontiers just fucking sign whatever hey.  Fuck me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTjNT1Uus0A
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2018, 04:05:16 PM
Just sampled a new clip from Nordic Union too.  It actually was okay and even though it Martensson rehashed, it has a bit more creativity and decent melodies.  Kind of optimistic.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on October 31, 2018, 05:20:51 PM
Jeez, just flicking around on youtube and Frontiers just fucking sign whatever hey.  Fuck me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTjNT1Uus0A

Is it really that far removed from Work of Art ?  :P

Not my cuppa tea at the moment but fwiw I reckon Creye are nowhere the worst on Frontiers.   They are unashamedly going for the "80's soundtrack sound" and - if you like that - I think they do a pretty decent job of that retro sound.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on October 31, 2018, 05:30:15 PM
Jeez, just flicking around on youtube and Frontiers just fucking sign whatever hey.  Fuck me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTjNT1Uus0A

Is it really that far removed from Work of Art ?  :P

Not my cuppa tea at the moment but fwiw I reckon Creye are nowhere the worst on Frontiers.   They are unashamedly going for the "80's soundtrack sound" and - if you like that - I think they do a pretty decent job of that retro sound.

I think that's the thing, trying to sound like the 80's for the sake of it.  The fighting scenes in the clip ala Rocky just took it over the top too.  I agree WOA is similar, but early in their career, felt more authentic but much better vocals than this guy,  I wouldn't have thought they would be the worst either.  Looking at the youtube links, so many Frontiers artists I've never heard of. 

I also really just wanted to bump the thread as there is nothing worth mentioning.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on October 31, 2018, 07:34:15 PM
Jeez, just flicking around on youtube and Frontiers just fucking sign whatever hey.  Fuck me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTjNT1Uus0A

I lasted 45 seconds. About the same amount TAC dedicates to sexy time! :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 01, 2018, 04:09:25 PM
Spirits of Fire finally have a release date on Frontiers. Album drops Feb. 22nd. Still waiting on samples and such. I'm looking forward to this one.

Ripper Owens - Vocals
Chris Caffrey - Guitar
Steve DiGiorgio - Bass
Mark Zonder - Drums

(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45128321_2001387936574067_965068564316815360_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=cc2e96c947d75b3c30449f1286b47ecb&oe=5C40CE61)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on November 01, 2018, 04:41:34 PM
Based on the lineup this album should be  :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on November 01, 2018, 04:49:43 PM
Based on the lineup this album should be  :metal :metal :metal :metal

Wheres the songwriting coming from though? That would be my worry.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2018, 05:02:58 PM
That's some lineup, wow.  But as Paul said, no songwriter and on Frontiers............enter the Del Vicchio!

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on November 01, 2018, 05:30:52 PM
Based on the lineup this album should be  :metal :metal :metal :metal

Wheres the songwriting coming from though? That would be my worry.

Yup - the strike rate on these hastily constructed super groups is almost non-existent often due to that very reason ,in addition to rushing things.  I'd be very surprised if this is much good but the potential is sure there if the songs do justice to the talent.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2018, 05:44:23 PM
Based on the lineup this album should be  :metal :metal :metal :metal

Wheres the songwriting coming from though? That would be my worry.

Yup - the strike rate on these hastily constructed super groups is almost non-existent often due to that very reason ,in addition to rushing things.  I'd be very surprised if this is much good but the potential is sure there if the songs do justice to the talent.

This seems like a very typical Frontiers thing to do, yet again.  They will release the album and we'll probably never hear of them again.  With Frontiers, it's hard to see who would do the songwriting for a project like this.  If it's the guys involved then yeah, I don't see it being any good really.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on November 01, 2018, 07:03:44 PM
Based on the lineup this album should be  :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2018, 07:23:14 PM
Based on the lineup this album should be  :metal :metal :metal :metal

Key word there is SHOULD.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on November 01, 2018, 07:24:21 PM
After hearing Caffrey's latest album,. I hope he's not writing the songs.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on November 02, 2018, 11:06:15 AM
Based on the lineup this album should be  :metal :metal :metal :metal

Wheres the songwriting coming from though? That would be my worry.

Yup - the strike rate on these hastily constructed super groups is almost non-existent often due to that very reason ,in addition to rushing things.  I'd be very surprised if this is much good but the potential is sure there if the songs do justice to the talent.

This seems like a very typical Frontiers thing to do, yet again.  They will release the album and we'll probably never hear of them again.  With Frontiers, it's hard to see who would do the songwriting for a project like this.  If it's the guys involved then yeah, I don't see it being any good really.

And if they arent writing the songs what is the fucking point?????
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 02, 2018, 03:02:09 PM
Based on the lineup this album should be  :metal :metal :metal :metal

Wheres the songwriting coming from though? That would be my worry.

Yup - the strike rate on these hastily constructed super groups is almost non-existent often due to that very reason ,in addition to rushing things.  I'd be very surprised if this is much good but the potential is sure there if the songs do justice to the talent.

This seems like a very typical Frontiers thing to do, yet again.  They will release the album and we'll probably never hear of them again.  With Frontiers, it's hard to see who would do the songwriting for a project like this.  If it's the guys involved then yeah, I don't see it being any good really.

And if they arent writing the songs what is the fucking point?????

It's Frontiers.  It wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 02, 2018, 03:15:46 PM
Early press had stated that Roy Z was producing. I would venture a guess it could be a mix of him and Chris writing. Just speculation on my part.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: ozzy554 on November 02, 2018, 08:13:04 PM
Well if Roy Z is involved in the writing it should be at least pretty good. He's attached to many albums that I love
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2018, 12:48:42 AM
Yeah Roy Z makes this very interesting.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on November 03, 2018, 10:59:26 AM
Yeah Roy Z makes this very interesting.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on November 03, 2018, 03:29:35 PM
Yeah Roy Z makes this very interesting.

If so, that makes things a lot more interesting
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2018, 03:23:27 AM
Now Roy Z has the fate of this thread on his back now, the pressure will be too much methinks, he's sure to bomb.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Grappler on November 15, 2018, 10:24:04 AM
Spirits of Fire video  - Light Speed Marching
https://youtu.be/Cg1gzFPAhcM

 :metal

Quote
Spirits Of Fire, the new band featuring Tim Ripper Owens "Official Page", Chris Caffery, Steve Di Giorgio Official - SDG, & Mark Zonder, have announced a February 22, 2019 release date for their self-titled debut album and released the first single & video, "Light Speed Marching" from the album.

Pre-order the album on CD/LP/Digital HERE: https://radi.al/SpiritsofFire

North American fans can get LIMITED EDITION, exclusive red color vinyl & collector's box (feat. CD + T-Shirt - Size L ONLY) HERE: https://frontiersrecords.pmstores.co/ These are limited to 100 each and this is the only retailer in North America carrying these items.

European fan can get the same items HERE: https://bit.ly/2RXvA0Q

Frontiers Music Srl is known for building new bands/projects featuring musicians of outstanding quality and who come from unique backgrounds. After an intense brainstorming session, a dream team of renowned metal musicians including Tim "Ripper" Owens (ex Judas Priest, Iced Earth), Chris Caffery (Savatage, Trans-Siberian Orchestra), Steve DiGiorgio (Testament, Death (Official), etc.) and Mark Zonder (ex Fates Warning, Warlord) was born and put together under the direction of renowned LA-based producer Roy Z. (Bruce Dickinson, Halford, Tribe Of Gypsies).

Called SPIRITS OF FIRE (after the title of one of their songs), the band has completed work on their debut album which is set for release on February 22nd via Frontiers Music Srl. The music can best be described as classic Priest meets Savatage.

Guitarist Chris Caffery on his influences for the record and working with Roy Z: My influences for writing on this record were the bands that we were and are still in! I wanted to write songs that [Judas] Priest, Savatage, Testament, and Fates Warning fans would like. But, I wanted them to have a personality of their own as well. To give it a vibe that was SPIRITS OF FIRE! I grew up listening to Judas Priest and spent 30 plus years working with Jon Oliva and Paul ONeill with Savatage and TSO. Many years playing Criss music. These influences for me came naturally! Especially because Im a fan of all of our bands!

This was the first time that I ever worked with Roy and it was so much fun. I have been a huge fan of his work for a long time. Hes written music, played on, and produced some of my favorite metal albums ever. He had a difficult job bringing this all together and I cant think of anyone that would have been a better producer and co-worker for this album!

I always just sing to the song, whatever I feel it should be. Its like a character thing! I like layers! This music is really perfect for me and in my natural wheel house. I like to sing all over the place and change it up and this all happens on this album. This is just the start of an amazing band, I mean sky is the limit and I actually cant wait to record the next album, because this one is so great and perfect, says vocalist Tim Ripper Owens.

Drummer Mark Zonder adds about his playing and writing process, I am the kind of player that plays what I think fits best with the music. With SPIRITS OF FIRE, the music was more aggressive and hard hitting which I really liked. Again, I tried to be very mindful of the song and the vocals, but tried to add parts that were interesting and creative for the listener.

Tracklisting:
1. Light Speed Marching
2. Temple of the Soul
3. All Comes Together
4. Spirits of Fire
5. Its Everywhere
6. A Game
7. Dispensable
8. Meet Your End
9. Never to Return
10. The Path
11. Alone in the Darkness

For More Info Visit:
https://www.facebook.com/SpiritsOfFireBand/
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Samsara on November 15, 2018, 10:30:27 AM
Pretty good. About what I expected. I'll pick up the CD on amazon when it is posted.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on November 15, 2018, 10:38:41 AM
Better than I expected - some snippets of originality in there and comes across as if some time has gone into it.  Ripper looks like he is channeling modern day Geoff Tate at times there  :lol

Will pick this one up for sure.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on November 15, 2018, 01:14:53 PM
 :metal :metal :metal :metal

awesome, getting this for sure!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2018, 02:57:01 PM
Wow... how did Frontiers sneak a good tune in there!


And back to the guy that inspired the OP of this thread.... Toby Hitchcock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ5S21KRk60

Cute chick
Great voice
Not the worst thing I've ever heard from Frontiers.  Not even the worst thing this month.
Terrible video.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2018, 03:49:59 PM
Just posted it in the classic metal thread before seeing this (i mean who checks this thread anyway?)

Not hearing what you guys are hearing at all. Ripper just doesnt do anything at all for me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2018, 03:55:26 PM
I don't know, I didn't think that song was all that flash.  I'm optimistic cause there is some cool shit going on, but really quite bland on first listen for me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2018, 04:04:23 PM
https://youtu.be/hQ5S21KRk60

You might pr3fer this one Kade. Toby Hitchcocks new one. Great voice. Average song.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2018, 04:10:00 PM
https://youtu.be/hQ5S21KRk60

You might pr3fer this one Kade. Toby Hitchcocks new one. Great voice. Average song.

Didn't I just say that (and a bit more)?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2018, 04:18:36 PM
https://youtu.be/hQ5S21KRk60

You might pr3fer this one Kade. Toby Hitchcocks new one. Great voice. Average song.

What a fucking terrible song.  Fuckin' hell.  Maybe my tastes have just changed but as Chad said, his first album inspired this thread and is a brilliant slab or AOR/melodic rock.  This makes me want to puke.  A guy with a voice like this shouldn't be singing average crap like this.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: ozzy554 on November 15, 2018, 04:29:30 PM
The Spirits of Fire single is solid. Definitely Sounds like a Roy Z production, It also has more of a Judas Priest vibe than some of the stuff Ripper actually did with priest.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2018, 04:49:07 PM
https://youtu.be/hQ5S21KRk60

You might pr3fer this one Kade. Toby Hitchcocks new one. Great voice. Average song.

Didn't I just say that (and a bit more)?
Sorry, missed it. Im not having a good strike rate today.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on November 15, 2018, 07:41:59 PM
https://youtu.be/hQ5S21KRk60

You might pr3fer this one Kade. Toby Hitchcocks new one. Great voice. Average song.

and shite video (shock horror)   :)

The only thing making that even remotely listenable is the power of his voice.  He certainly doesn't have a voice for metal but that debut album of his struck the right balance.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2018, 12:12:20 AM
https://youtu.be/hQ5S21KRk60

You might pr3fer this one Kade. Toby Hitchcocks new one. Great voice. Average song.

and shite video (shock horror)   :)

The only thing making that even remotely listenable is the power of his voice.  He certainly doesn't have a voice for metal but that debut album of his struck the right balance.

Exactly, it was a perfect mix of AOR, melodic rock and hard rock.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Zook on November 16, 2018, 07:43:06 AM
That Spirits of Fire song was pretty meh. Ripper hasn't done anything worth a damn since Iced Earth.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2018, 02:39:51 PM
That Spirits of Fire song was pretty meh. Ripper hasn't done anything worth a damn since Iced Earth.

As much as I am a Ripper fan, this is true, unfortunately.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on November 17, 2018, 02:59:19 PM
That Spirits of Fire song was pretty meh. Ripper hasn't done anything worth a damn

Fixed it 😀
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Zook on November 17, 2018, 03:52:45 PM
That Spirits of Fire song was pretty meh. Ripper hasn't done anything worth a damn

Fixed it 😀

Come on, that's not true. He's made some great guest appearances, and as I said, his time in Iced Earth was great.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on November 17, 2018, 04:51:43 PM
That Spirits of Fire song was pretty meh. Ripper hasn't done anything worth a damn

Fixed it 😀

Come on, that's not true. He's made some great guest appearances, and as I said, his time in Iced Earth was great.

Were hanging a legend on some guest appearances? I can honestly say I havent liked anything Ive heard by him, though I havent listened to the Iced Earth.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: ozzy554 on November 17, 2018, 04:57:36 PM
I do enjoy his stuff with Charred Walls of the Damned and the albums he did with Malmsteen
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 18, 2018, 03:17:55 AM
I do enjoy his stuff with Charred Walls of the Damned and the albums he did with Malmsteen

I actually, I retract my statement, as I obviously didn't put any thought into it.  The first Charred Walls is excellent and Perpetual Flame likewise.
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Post by: TAC on November 18, 2018, 08:07:01 PM
Agreed.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 20, 2018, 12:55:32 PM
There's really no good place to put this, and it isn't Frontiers, but I just had to share it with you boys.  Invest 5 minutes now;thank me later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX_TxKa0dCY
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Post by: bl5150 on November 20, 2018, 01:50:53 PM
There's really no good place to put this, and it isn't Frontiers, but I just had to share it with you boys.  Invest 5 minutes now;thank me later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX_TxKa0dCY

Nice..........hadn't seen they had something new out.  :lol

They have had a fleeting mention here in the past -long before Fabio discovered them :)

I lied when I said I had no Maiden oddities . I just went and typed in "Number Of........" into iTunes and up comes Italian comedy metal band Nanowar and their phone sex song "166 - 166 The Number Of The Bitch"  :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHmzSjAfQbg
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 20, 2018, 02:07:20 PM
Glorious!
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Post by: Lowdz on November 21, 2018, 01:17:52 PM
Brilliant
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Post by: Lowdz on November 21, 2018, 01:24:50 PM
Just found that they do a DT tribute called zImages and Swords 😀😱
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on December 06, 2018, 05:28:25 AM
Spirits of Fire finally have a release date on Frontiers. Album drops Feb. 22nd. Still waiting on samples and such. I'm looking forward to this one.

Ripper Owens - Vocals
Chris Caffrey - Guitar
Steve DiGiorgio - Bass
Mark Zonder - Drums
It's a whole-ass injustice that Zonder hasn't done anything prog-related in years and hasn't performed with Fates Warning because he wanted to downsize on his musical activities, but will play in a random supergroup type of thing.
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Post by: wolfking on December 06, 2018, 03:53:09 PM
Spirits of Fire finally have a release date on Frontiers. Album drops Feb. 22nd. Still waiting on samples and such. I'm looking forward to this one.

Ripper Owens - Vocals
Chris Caffrey - Guitar
Steve DiGiorgio - Bass
Mark Zonder - Drums
It's a whole-ass injustice that Zonder hasn't done anything prog-related in years and hasn't performed with Fates Warning because he wanted to downsize on his musical activities, but will play in a random supergroup type of thing.

Easy cash talks.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2018, 03:34:26 PM
Bit of a tosser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDbkiSaW7FE&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3RH1g08PPHqoQdP13ihyw06egSrh1mUobo1m8epEp0wpdCO0bxih86o84
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Post by: Zook on December 09, 2018, 05:55:12 PM
And he is?
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 09, 2018, 06:27:33 PM
And he is?

At first, I had no fucking clue.  Then, I put on my Columbo coat.  Comments reference "Nathan".  Dude in the video references performing with Inglorious.  Google tells me there's a Nathan James singing for Inglorious.

I still have no fucking clue who he is, but I know his name now.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2018, 06:36:09 PM
Sorry for the confusion -  I would've thought he was pretty well known by those visiting this thread - Inglorious and has been a lead vocalist for Trans Siberian Orchestra
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2018, 07:02:20 PM
I thought it was Jorn but everyone in the comments was calling him Nathan.

I like the comment about 14 replies down. "Oh dear, very Brentish." :lol


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Post by: bl5150 on December 09, 2018, 07:10:20 PM
I thought you were joking  :lol
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Post by: Zook on December 09, 2018, 07:43:19 PM
And he is?

At first, I had no fucking clue.  Then, I put on my Columbo coat.  Comments reference "Nathan".  Dude in the video references performing with Inglorious.  Google tells me there's a Nathan James singing for Inglorious.

I still have no fucking clue who he is, but I know his name now.

I saw Nathan in the comments. Didn't hear him say Inglorious. Thought about searching for singers named Nathan. Posted here instead.
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Post by: TAC on December 09, 2018, 07:54:26 PM
Thought about searching for.... Posted here instead.

Always the best course of action. :lol
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Post by: xlklffr on December 10, 2018, 12:03:54 PM
I know that this isn't Frontiers, and I know that they've been discussed before...But damn, The Night Flight Orchestra is the best thing that has happened to my AOR world for the last couple of years. Also, they released new music not long ago!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7zcmpdg0so (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7zcmpdg0so)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QdHI0if_xk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QdHI0if_xk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JToNqBY0s-U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JToNqBY0s-U)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOcnKnNKv-A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOcnKnNKv-A)
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Post by: wolfking on December 10, 2018, 03:36:46 PM
I know that this isn't Frontiers, and I know that they've been discussed before...But damn, The Night Flight Orchestra is the best thing that has happened to my AOR world for the last couple of years. Also, they released new music not long ago!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7zcmpdg0so (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7zcmpdg0so)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QdHI0if_xk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QdHI0if_xk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JToNqBY0s-U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JToNqBY0s-U)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOcnKnNKv-A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOcnKnNKv-A)

Hey mate.  They are indeed amazing, and while they are the only band at the moment that would really fit in this thread and do it proud, they have their own thread with heaps of discussion.

I need to listen to the last album more.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 10, 2018, 05:30:22 PM
I need to listen to the last album more.

I didn't hear much in it that I haven't heard already on their previous albums.  Enjoyable sure.  Memorable?  Not really.  I feel it's similar to Dynazty ... the same thing album after album.
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2018, 04:22:57 AM
I need to listen to the last album more.

I didn't hear much in it that I haven't heard already on their previous albums.  Enjoyable sure.  Memorable?  Not really.  I feel it's similar to Dynazty ... the same thing album after album.

Yeah, there was nothing on it that we didn't hear on the one before.  I think they rushed the last one slightly.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2018, 03:31:41 PM
New Find Me;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWQiKQrYsLA

Sounds very similar to the last one, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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Post by: TAC on December 11, 2018, 03:36:54 PM
More like...


...Lose Me. ;D
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2018, 03:38:25 PM
More like...


...Lose Me. ;D

That actually made me LOL.

Noe enough fucking growls hey?
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Post by: bl5150 on December 11, 2018, 03:57:10 PM
It would be nice if they varied their sound a bit from song to song or album to album but yeah...........he sure has a voice on him.
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Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2018, 03:59:26 PM
It would be nice if they varied their sound a bit from song to song or album to album but yeah...........he sure has a voice on him.

At least the song isn't a total flop like the Toby Hitchcock.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Bolsters on December 11, 2018, 06:35:31 PM
New Find Me;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWQiKQrYsLA

Sounds very similar to the last one, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
:metal
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Post by: bl5150 on January 02, 2019, 10:51:00 PM
This is the time of year where i binge listen to 2018 releases and try to catch up.  The really good stuff gets noted and set aside for further listens/inclusion in the podcast and the bad stuff gets into my Shit List which I usually seem to post/update here.

So let's get it started:


BRENT's 2018 SHIT LIST:


-  Johnny Gioeli - One Voice.    I like the guy's voice but this attempt at the singer/songwriter thing is woeful. Three voices wouldn't save these songs.
- Ghost Ship Octavius .  Their last album was patchy but had a couple of great songs..........this one don't!




NOT REALLY SHIT BUT DISAPPOINTING GIVEN PAST ALBUMS:

- Ancient Empire
- Arion -new singer doesn't compare well and production is muddy as.
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Post by: wolfking on January 03, 2019, 04:00:52 AM
 :lol  is it sick that I may be more intrigued in the shit list as opposed to the real list?

I forgot about both of Johnnys albums this year and might as well keep it that way.

I have been trying to check some new releases also since XMas and will post what I've listened to when I'm not online on my phone.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 03, 2019, 04:39:27 AM
Oh man... my shit list is pretty long.  I agree on the Gioelli solo one, though I didn't mind the Gioelli-Castronovo release.  It was pretty formulaic for Frontiers, but still a decent enough listen.

Agree on Arion - highly disappointed after The Last of Us was so good.  Not sure I sampled Ancient Empire - and I'm not going to.  I'm done with 2018, except for anything on the 'great' list from Brent that I might have missed.
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Post by: Bolsters on January 03, 2019, 04:56:19 AM
Arion was one of my more highly anticipated releases last year too, but I agree it was very disappointing.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 03, 2019, 05:10:03 AM
:lol  is it sick that I may be more intrigued in the shit list as opposed to the real list?



By Kade's request the Best of 2018 podcast has been changed to the 2018 Shit Show podcast :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 03, 2019, 02:31:13 PM
You'll all thank me later.

Speaking of shit show, I'm four songs in on the new Lizzy Borden and I can't believe my ears.  What the fuck is the go with this, good lord!  I've got it spinning in the car and the first couple were tolerable, but by the third song I thought about crashing my car.  Not sure if I have the nuts to keep going with this.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on January 03, 2019, 03:20:48 PM
You'll all thank me later.

Speaking of shit show, I'm four songs in on the new Lizzy Borden and I can't believe my ears.  What the fuck is the go with this, good lord!  I've got it spinning in the car and the first couple were tolerable, but by the third song I thought about crashing my car.  Not sure if I have the nuts to keep going with this.

Yeah - from memory I liked one song.   But the reviews have been mostly positive which was a big surprise to me .
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 03, 2019, 03:24:00 PM
You'll all thank me later.

Speaking of shit show, I'm four songs in on the new Lizzy Borden and I can't believe my ears.  What the fuck is the go with this, good lord!  I've got it spinning in the car and the first couple were tolerable, but by the third song I thought about crashing my car.  Not sure if I have the nuts to keep going with this.

Yeah - from memory I liked one song.   But the reviews have been mostly positive which was a big surprise to me .

I'll give the rest a spin then at least, but fuck this is a big step down from their last one which I thought was excellent.

Since we are in this thread, I've also checked the Devil's Hand with Mike Slamer.  Even though it's pretty Slamer by numbers, I thought it was quite enjoyable and some nice heavier moments which is great to hear from him.  A standard Frontiers fare, but I didn't mind it at all.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 03, 2019, 03:26:42 PM
Yeah ditto (listened yesterday) - Devil's Hand got a 84% from me , so good without being great. Like you say much of it has been heard before if you are a fan of Seventh Key or Steelhouse Lane but whatever he does is quality.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 03, 2019, 03:46:28 PM
Yeah ditto (listened yesterday) - Devil's Hand got a 84% from me , so good without being great. Like you say much of it has been heard before if you are a fan of Seventh Key or Steelhouse Lane but whatever he does is quality.

Yeah nice.  I love his soloing, such a great guitarist.  I'll listen to this one again.  I listened to it yesterday too, huh!
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Post by: TAC on January 03, 2019, 07:33:57 PM
I dropped the needle on the Lizzy Borden when it came out and I thought it blew big chunks.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 03, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I dropped the needle on the Lizzy Borden when it came out and I thought it blew big chunks.

At least it wasn't big ass chunks .

The thought I had as I listened to it was that it was full of unfinished songs that had been rushed out before their time.  There was the skeleton of a decent song in many cases but just something missing with most of them.

About to listen to Michael Schenker Fest.  (update after listening.............solid :)  )
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2019, 04:27:52 AM
I got through most of the Lizzy Borden and this could be one of the most shittiest, disappointing, abysmal albums I've ever heard from an established band, if not the worst.  What an absolute astoundingly horrible album.  This makes Frequency Unknown sound respectable.  Maybe I'm being harsh or just expected too much but fuck me.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 04, 2019, 04:48:19 AM
I got through most of the Lizzy Borden and this could be one of the most shittiest, disappointing, abysmal albums I've ever heard from an established band, if not the worst.  What an absolute astoundingly horrible album.  This makes Frequency Unknown sound respectable.  Maybe I'm being harsh or just expected too much but fuck me.

You're making me want a song-by-song review of this album.
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Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2019, 04:53:50 AM
I got through most of the Lizzy Borden and this could be one of the most shittiest, disappointing, abysmal albums I've ever heard from an established band, if not the worst.  What an absolute astoundingly horrible album.  This makes Frequency Unknown sound respectable.  Maybe I'm being harsh or just expected too much but fuck me.

You're making me want a song-by-song review of this album.

The thought did cross my mind to be honest haha.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 04, 2019, 10:24:08 AM
I didn't make it through the whole Lizzy Borden album.  I think I tapped out ten minutes in.
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Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2019, 04:26:30 PM
The stupid reprises fucked me off and what the fuck is with Silent Night?  Fuck off Lizzy, you can do better than this shit.
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Post by: TAC on January 04, 2019, 06:20:49 PM

About to listen to Michael Schenker Fest.  (update after listening.............solid :)  )

Yeah, it's not bad. I enjoy it.

It was great seeing them. Being 15 ft away from Graham Bonnet, it was like Weekend At Bernie's in concert.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 06, 2019, 04:08:36 AM

About to listen to Michael Schenker Fest.  (update after listening.............solid :)  )

Yeah, it's not bad. I enjoy it.

It was great seeing them. Being 15 ft away from Graham Bonnet, it was like Weekend At Bernie's in concert.

 :rollin
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Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2019, 02:38:27 PM
I've had the urge to go back through Ten's discography.  Starting with the debut yesterday, I never really gave this one much time.  I got a cd version of both the debut and The Name of the Rose in the one package so Rose always was the fav of the two.  Saying that, I never really realised how much of a high quality melodic rock/AOR album the debut is.  I really enjoyed it.  A dud or two near the end, but man, this is some class AOR,
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 16, 2019, 03:19:36 PM
hhmmmmm.... might want to revisit this myself then.  I'm resolving NOT to try out so much new music this year, and try to focus more on the awesome stuff I already have, but don't listen to enough.

Hopefully this approach lasts more than a few weeks.
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Post by: wolfking on January 16, 2019, 03:37:29 PM
hhmmmmm.... might want to revisit this myself then.  I'm resolving NOT to try out so much new music this year, and try to focus more on the awesome stuff I already have, but don't listen to enough.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/p0RDMJGgMXF96/giphy.gif)
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Post by: TAC on January 16, 2019, 03:40:18 PM
hhmmmmm.... might want to revisit this myself then.  I'm resolving NOT to try out so much new music this year, and try to focus more on the awesome stuff I already have, but don't listen to enough.

Hopefully this approach lasts more than a few weeks.

 :lol

Sounds like every other New Year's resolution that doesn't even make it to February. :lol



Edit: What Kade posted!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on January 16, 2019, 06:15:22 PM
I know ... I know. I need help.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2019, 03:57:08 AM
I know ... I know. I need help.

You can do it mate, stay strong.
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Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2019, 03:50:26 PM
Still going through the Ten discography and Name of the Robe is indeed a classic melodic rock album.  Turn Around is a bit of a dud but so much good stuff here, wonderful melodies, just like I remember it.

The Robe wasn't actually as good as I remember.  I didn't find the melodies as strong as the first two albums.  The title track however is amazing and as is Someday.  That could be a top 3 ballad from Gary.  Everything else in between was good but wasn't as strong as I remember.

Spellbound was one I never got into and never understood the love, but I'm only up to Red but jeez, I don't know what I was on about.  The three hit of Force, Pyramid and the title track are awesome, and We Rule the Night is excellent.  The Still of the Night rip offs in the title track are unforgiving, but damn that chorus is so good.  Looking forward to hearing Crystal Ball as I get through the album also.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 21, 2019, 04:06:19 PM
Still going through the Ten discography and Name of the Robe is indeed a classic melodic rock album.  Turn Around is a bit of a dud but so much good stuff here, wonderful melodies, just like I remember it.

The Robe wasn't actually as good as I remember.  I didn't find the melodies as strong as the first two albums.  The title track however is amazing and as is Someday.  That could be a top 3 ballad from Gary.  Everything else in between was good but wasn't as strong as I remember.

Spellbound was one I never got into and never understood the love, but I'm only up to Red but jeez, I don't know what I was on about.  The three hit of Force, Pyramid and the title track are awesome, and We Rule the Night is excellent.  The Still of the Night rip offs in the title track are unforgiving, but damn that chorus is so good.  Looking forward to hearing Crystal Ball as I get through the album also.

Is The Name of the Robe the 2-in-1 package ?  :biggrin:

The Name of the Rose made my DTF Top 50 so nuff said.   The Robe is unfortunately one of those albums where a terrible production job manages to ruin some good songs for me.

And yeah.......Fear The Force was a favourite back in the day.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2019, 04:10:33 PM
Still going through the Ten discography and Name of the Robe is indeed a classic melodic rock album.  Turn Around is a bit of a dud but so much good stuff here, wonderful melodies, just like I remember it.

The Robe wasn't actually as good as I remember.  I didn't find the melodies as strong as the first two albums.  The title track however is amazing and as is Someday.  That could be a top 3 ballad from Gary.  Everything else in between was good but wasn't as strong as I remember.

Spellbound was one I never got into and never understood the love, but I'm only up to Red but jeez, I don't know what I was on about.  The three hit of Force, Pyramid and the title track are awesome, and We Rule the Night is excellent.  The Still of the Night rip offs in the title track are unforgiving, but damn that chorus is so good.  Looking forward to hearing Crystal Ball as I get through the album also.

Is The Name of the Robe the 2-in-1 package ?  :biggrin:

The Name of the Rose made my DTF Top 50 so nuff said.   The Robe is unfortunately one of those albums where a terrible production job manages to ruin some good songs for me.

And yeah.......Fear The Force was a favourite back in the day.

In the Name of the Robe.....brilliant!!  haha.  I'll have to go back and see what you wrote about Rose Brent, has always been my go to Ten album and I think head and shoulders above the rest.

Yeah, I did notice the production on the Robe was very sub par, didn't help.
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Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2019, 04:28:11 PM
I didn't know they recorded both the first two albums together Brent.  I agree, definitely sounds like two different sessions.  Glad you think the debut is quality too.  Wait For You is definitely top 3, always wished it had a bit more of a solo though.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on January 21, 2019, 04:47:08 PM
A new project that will appeal to some around here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SIUhNWCE8E


Songs written by the guitarist from Saffire (a band I have got a few into around here) and vox  from Altzi , Strid and Apollo.   Guests all over this thing but it's a solid lineup.   The linked song is a lot more generic AOR than Saffire but I expect/hope this is just single material.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on January 22, 2019, 05:01:57 AM
Jesus.... out on Friday!?!?  How did Frontiers sneak this one in?  Looking forward to sampling it, but based on this track, expectations are not going to be very high given the absolute pot purri of vocalists AND musicians.  Not sure Altzi's gritty voice suits a not-so-metal style.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2019, 02:29:52 PM
A new project that will appeal to some around here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SIUhNWCE8E


Songs written by the guitarist from Saffire (a band I have got a few into around here) and vox  from Altzi , Strid and Apollo.   Guests all over this thing but it's a solid lineup.   The linked song is a lot more generic AOR than Saffire but I expect/hope this is just single material.

Meh, not bad, pretty generic as you said, but with Apollo and Strid involved, I'm interested.

Jesus.... out on Friday!?!?  How did Frontiers sneak this one in?  Looking forward to sampling it, but based on this track, expectations are not going to be very high given the absolute pot purri of vocalists AND musicians.  Not sure Altzi's gritty voice suits a not-so-metal style.

They must have so much shit on the go it just slipped through the promo cracks!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2019, 03:59:12 PM
Another new Find Me track;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXE5Zf8Y4J0

You can say you've heard it without clicking.  A blatant rip of one or more of the songs from the last album.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on January 22, 2019, 04:00:52 PM
Another Lose Me track.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2019, 04:04:26 PM
Another Lose Me track.

Could have bet my life savings that was coming.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on January 22, 2019, 04:19:09 PM
  A blatant rip of one or more of the songs from the last album.

Same here! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2019, 04:20:06 PM
  A blatant rip of one or more of the songs from the last album.

Same here! :lol

 :rollin
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Post by: Lowdz on January 25, 2019, 10:47:24 AM
Is this thread still a thing 😀😀😀😀
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Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2019, 04:17:30 AM
Is this thread still a thing 😀😀😀😀

It's a pretty solid thread.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 30, 2019, 02:33:31 PM
Found this cool cover of an old Europe song covered by Talisman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_145Fecdvpo

Damn Jeff Scott Soto kills it! Actually didn't know that Marcel Jacob co-wrote that song.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 30, 2019, 04:07:51 PM
Found this cool cover of an old Europe song covered by Talisman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_145Fecdvpo

Damn Jeff Scott Soto kills it! Actually didn't know that Marcel Jacob co-wrote that song.

Good to see that debut Talisman in the album thread  :metal  Scream of Anger was one of the (poor sounding) live bonus tracks that came with some versions of the Talisman debut.  That album made my DTF Top 50 and was super obscure (in Australia anyway) when I got it on release.  Thankfully as Soto's name continued to grow more people have discovered Talisman - now there's about 20 fans in Australia , although 2 are family of mine and one of them is wolfking :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 30, 2019, 04:58:38 PM
 :metal :metal :metal

My introduction to Talisman was I saw the Five Men Live DVD in the clearance bin at JB for like $5.  Hadn't heard a thing from them but saw JSS on the cover who I knew from Malmsteen so just purchased it.  I was blown away when I put it on, such an amazing release.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 31, 2019, 07:56:21 AM
Found this cool cover of an old Europe song covered by Talisman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_145Fecdvpo

Damn Jeff Scott Soto kills it! Actually didn't know that Marcel Jacob co-wrote that song.

Good to see that debut Talisman in the album thread  :metal  Scream of Anger was one of the (poor sounding) live bonus tracks that came with some versions of the Talisman debut.  That album made my DTF Top 50 and was super obscure (in Australia anyway) when I got it on release.  Thankfully as Soto's name continued to grow more people have discovered Talisman - now there's about 20 fans in Australia , although 2 are family of mine and one of them is wolfking :lol

😀😀😀

Such a great band. Marcel was a talent. First heard about him in Guitar ForThe Practicing Musician when Marching Out came out. He could write a song, and his bass was always a standout.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 31, 2019, 11:32:52 AM
Found this cool cover of an old Europe song covered by Talisman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_145Fecdvpo

Damn Jeff Scott Soto kills it! Actually didn't know that Marcel Jacob co-wrote that song.

Good to see that debut Talisman in the album thread  :metal  Scream of Anger was one of the (poor sounding) live bonus tracks that came with some versions of the Talisman debut.  That album made my DTF Top 50 and was super obscure (in Australia anyway) when I got it on release.  Thankfully as Soto's name continued to grow more people have discovered Talisman - now there's about 20 fans in Australia , although 2 are family of mine and one of them is wolfking :lol

😀😀😀

Such a great band. Marcel was a talent. First heard about him in Guitar ForThe Practicing Musician when Marching Out came out. He could write a song, and his bass was always a standout.
Yea it's a great album, too bad the band never really made it big. Lots of good songs.

Have to also give some credit too Europe, I love that song. :coolio

Btw it's strange seeing Fredrik kesson (Opeth) playing 80s metal, he nails the solo though!
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2019, 11:57:05 AM
Btw it's strange seeing Fredrik kesson (Opeth) playing 80s metal, he nails the solo though!

From my point of view, it was strange seeing Fredik playing for Opeth when he joined.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 31, 2019, 12:01:24 PM
Btw it's strange seeing Fredrik kesson (Opeth) playing 80s metal, he nails the solo though!

From my point of view, it was strange seeing Fredik playing for Opeth when he joined.
I can imagine  :lol
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Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2019, 01:47:21 PM
Btw it's strange seeing Fredrik kesson (Opeth) playing 80s metal, he nails the solo though!

From my point of view, it was strange seeing Fredik playing for Opeth when he joined.
I can imagine  :lol

It was a great career move for him.  When he first joined I thought he was a bizarre pick but I remember interviews where he was saying Opeth and that style of music for him was different and challenging him as a guitar player, which is great and he is reaping the rewards.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 31, 2019, 04:45:25 PM
Btw it's strange seeing Fredrik kesson (Opeth) playing 80s metal, he nails the solo though!

From my point of view, it was strange seeing Fredik playing for Opeth when he joined.
I can imagine  :lol

It was a great career move for him.  When he first joined I thought he was a bizarre pick but I remember interviews where he was saying Opeth and that style of music for him was different and challenging him as a guitar player, which is great and he is reaping the rewards.
Yea it really was, he found his place in Opeth.

I actually knew about Talisman way before I discovered Opeth but that was pre-internet days  and I didn't care much about the lineup in the band so later when Fredrik joined Opeth I didn't know he was a member of Talisman until I looked it up.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 02, 2019, 12:22:21 PM
When he joined Operh it was a bit like when Ralph Santolla joined Death. 😱
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Post by: bl5150 on February 02, 2019, 04:25:51 PM
Yep.   I had no idea until Fred's gig in Opeth was mentioned on DTF.   My first thought was how bored I would be if I had his shredding talent and was stuck in Opeth  :lol  :-X
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Post by: wolfking on February 03, 2019, 03:42:35 AM
Yep.   I had no idea until Fred's gig in Opeth was mentioned on DTF.   My first thought was how bored I would be if I had his shredding talent and was stuck in Opeth  :lol  :-X

I reckon Fredrick definitely had that thought, but I'm guessing the pay increase from joining Opeth outweighs that.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 05, 2019, 12:37:13 PM
Ive made very few awful music purchases In my life. Opeths Still Life is one of those 😱😳😬🙉
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Post by: wolfking on February 05, 2019, 02:35:42 PM
Ive made very few awful music purchases In my life. Opeths Still Life is one of those 😱😳😬🙉

haha, nah it's pretty good.  ;D
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 06, 2019, 02:48:29 AM
Ive made very few awful music purchases In my life. Opeths Still Life is one of those 😱😳😬🙉

Should have bought Blackwater Park instead.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2019, 11:44:34 AM
Ive made very few awful music purchases In my life. Opeths Still Life is one of those 😱😳😬🙉

Should have bought Blackwater Park instead.  :biggrin:

I dont 5hink it would have helped 😀
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Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2019, 12:04:30 PM
Saw this on YouTube. You can thank me later 😀❤️

https://youtu.be/yhDWqppzSSs
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Post by: TAC on February 06, 2019, 01:26:07 PM
Later? I'm gonna thank you RIGHT NOW!!
:drool:



Check out the Dust In The Wing vid.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 06, 2019, 01:53:10 PM
Too much cake on her face, but yeah... she's hawt.  Pretty decent voice too.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 06, 2019, 02:48:29 PM
I think they need a second guitarist/backing vocalist

https://youtu.be/vasOOy1B17I
















Seriously ..............some of the best guitarists in the world struggle to get 100k subscribers to their YT channels and she has 1.4m  :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on February 06, 2019, 02:58:04 PM
The last 30 seconds of the Highway To Hell Cover is awesome and is now my new ringtone  :o
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Post by: bl5150 on February 06, 2019, 03:07:46 PM
Nice  :lol


Sounds like the new Hardline is going to be the closest they've managed to get to the sound of Double Eclipse

https://youtu.be/EDyGfOXHr9c
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Zook on February 06, 2019, 03:15:52 PM
I think they need a second guitarist/backing vocalist

https://youtu.be/vasOOy1B17I
















Seriously ..............some of the best guitarists in the world struggle to get 100k subscribers to their YT channels and she has 1.4m  :lol

It's a scientific fact that boobs bring in more views and subscribers.
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Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2019, 04:57:46 AM
Nice  :lol


Sounds like the new Hardline is going to be the closest they've managed to get to the sound of Double Eclipse

https://youtu.be/EDyGfOXHr9c

I thought that was pretty shit, honestly.
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Post by: jingle.boy on February 07, 2019, 05:21:55 AM
Nice  :lol


Sounds like the new Hardline is going to be the closest they've managed to get to the sound of Double Eclipse

https://youtu.be/EDyGfOXHr9c

I thought that was pretty shit, honestly.

Same.  Terrible first single if they're trying to convince people they're looking to Double Eclipse for influence ... and I found the problem - "Alessandro Del Vecchio's songwriting and production abilities".  Sounds more like II than Double Eclipse.

They need to stop calling back to Double Eclipse.  So long as Schon isn't involved (and he never will be) stop saying you're taking inspiration from, and/or trying to recreate it.  Be honest with yourselves... Hardline is nothing but a rotating cast of musicians to give Johnny something to sing along with.  I've enjoyed the last 3 albums, but don't feed me a line (or paragraph) of bullshit.
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Post by: wolfking on February 07, 2019, 05:28:35 AM
Nice  :lol


Sounds like the new Hardline is going to be the closest they've managed to get to the sound of Double Eclipse

https://youtu.be/EDyGfOXHr9c

I thought that was pretty shit, honestly.

Same.  Terrible first single if they're trying to convince people they're looking to Double Eclipse for influence ... and I found the problem - "Alessandro Del Vecchio's songwriting and production abilities".  Sounds more like II than Double Eclipse.

They need to stop calling back to Double Eclipse.  So long as Schon isn't involved (and he never will be) stop saying you're taking inspiration from, and/or trying to recreate it.  Be honest with yourselves... Hardline is nothing but a rotating cast of musicians to give Johnny something to sing along with.  I've enjoyed the last 3 albums, but don't feed me a line (or paragraph) of bullshit.

Well said.  I didn't even recognize any of the current lineup.  Last one was rubbish too though IMO.  Danger Zone was pretty decent.
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Post by: bl5150 on February 07, 2019, 06:07:15 AM
Nice  :lol


Sounds like the new Hardline is going to be the closest they've managed to get to the sound of Double Eclipse

https://youtu.be/EDyGfOXHr9c

I thought that was pretty shit, honestly.

Not a great fan of it myself - just picked up on a few things with the sound that seemed a bit closer to the debut than they've managed before.  Truth be told I'm almost over bothering with anything from Frontiers at this point.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 07, 2019, 01:13:35 PM
Thought it was alright. A masterpiece compared to what we are used to. They need to give Mike Slayer a call for a song or two like the first album.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on February 07, 2019, 03:20:12 PM
They need to give Mike Slayer a call for a song or two like the first album.

Is that what happens when Tim introduces Mike Slamer to growlies?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Samsara on February 07, 2019, 03:26:11 PM
Anyone pre-order that Spirits of Fire disc. i did, then canceled it. Eh, I just have a feeling its going to be the same old shit.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2019, 08:24:48 PM
They need to give Mike Slayer a call for a song or two like the first album.

Is that what happens when Tim introduces Mike Slamer to growlies?

 :lol

Mike Slayer.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 08, 2019, 04:15:18 AM
Thought it was alright. A masterpiece compared to what we are used to. They need to give Mike Slayer a call for a song or two like the first album.

Hahaha who?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on February 08, 2019, 12:32:55 PM
They need to give Mike Slayer a call for a song or two like the first album.

Is that what happens when Tim introduces Mike Slamer to growlies?

 :lol

Mike Slayer.

😀

Its got a ring to it.

Mike Slamer damn it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: ProfessorPeart on February 22, 2019, 10:20:02 PM
Anyone pre-order that Spirits of Fire disc. i did, then canceled it. Eh, I just have a feeling its going to be the same old shit.

Just started listening to it now. It's not like anything else came out today.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2019, 03:42:49 AM
I sampled another track from it yesterday and I thought it was pretty shit truthfully.
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Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2019, 02:18:27 PM
I don't know if this is the same Hardline song that Brent shared a couple of weeks back, but this is horseshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9cTgCiOne8
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on March 07, 2019, 02:48:26 PM
Arent they all the same? :neverusethis:
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Post by: bl5150 on March 07, 2019, 02:53:37 PM
I don't know if this is the same Hardline song that Brent shared a couple of weeks back, but this is horseshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9cTgCiOne8

It is yeah.  I think they have nailed the guitar sound/groove of the debut there but just need some decent songs  :lol  Good to see that Alessando is still up and about  :metal

It's actually a shame that Gioeli hasn't worked with some better writers over the years since Double Eclipse - his voice has never really been taken full advantage of.  And that HArdline track would be the best track on his solo album by a mile  ;D
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Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2019, 03:00:56 PM
I don't know if this is the same Hardline song that Brent shared a couple of weeks back, but this is horseshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9cTgCiOne8

It is yeah.  I think they have nailed the guitar sound/groove of the debut there but just need some decent songs  :lol  Good to see that Alessando is still up and about  :metal

It's actually a shame that Gioeli hasn't worked with some better writers over the years since Double Eclipse - his voice has never really been taken full advantage of.  And that HArdline track would be the best track on his solo album by a mile  ;D

Fucking hell.  I might need to check it out for a laugh.  I was getting worried about Del Vicchio also.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on March 07, 2019, 04:42:03 PM
Yep, bland. The only good thing is Gioellis voice.
Frontiers is pretty much dead to me.

I do like the new Tora Tora and Jetboy albums. They both have that very dry sound every old band doing new stuff seems to have these days (or is it just my fogey ears? 😁), but some enjoyable tunes. I never bothered checking out Jetboy back in the day, the image put me off, but might have to change that.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on March 07, 2019, 05:02:35 PM
Did we know there was a new First Signal album coming? Cant say Ive been counting the minutes and this first track doesnt change that, but I know Chad has a thing for Harry Hess 😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2019, 12:36:25 AM
Did we know there was a new First Signal album coming? Cant say Ive been counting the minutes and this first track doesnt change that, but I know Chad has a thing for Harry Hess 😁

I didn't know there was a new one.  The first album is excellent but the second was average or just 'solid' if you will.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on March 08, 2019, 10:33:16 AM
I did intend to post a link  :facepalm:

https://youtu.be/yw1CLOAN564
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Post by: Zook on March 08, 2019, 01:18:08 PM
I think they should have more appropriate album covers to match their music. Something like unicorns or fluffy bunnies.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2019, 02:36:22 PM
I did intend to post a link  :facepalm:

https://youtu.be/yw1CLOAN564

Pretty standard affair for what Frontiers dishes up.  Could me Find Me, could be anything really.  Generic.  Kind of takes the piss out of Harry really.

Daniel Flores.  I thought it sounded like his sort of shit.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2019, 02:39:50 PM
This was in the sidebar, not too bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRS-z7RBUtI
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Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2019, 05:33:44 PM
A little tidbit that might be of interest to me and not many others (dunno) - but we take what we can get these days.

Sandi Saraya has been writing with Tony Bruno (Saraya,Danger Danger) for a new Saraya album that is expected to be in the same vein as "Blackbird" and there could be an EP within not too many weeks.  Tony Bruno can really write a song and Saraya was always one of my top (if not THE top) female rock vocalists , so count me very interested.

Just by the by , but she has managed to age as well as Susanna Hoffs too.  A few years back aged 52

(https://i.postimg.cc/9fqJfzx9/saraya.png)
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Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2019, 05:44:27 PM
Just checked out both of those ladies and they are hot stuff
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Post by: TAC on May 08, 2019, 06:11:08 PM
That's pretty solid.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2019, 06:46:10 PM
You or the photo?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on May 08, 2019, 07:07:05 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on May 08, 2019, 08:07:49 PM
You or the photo?

Beat me to it.
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Post by: TAC on May 08, 2019, 08:11:03 PM
You or the photo?

Beat me to it.


To the photo?  :lol
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Post by: Big Hath on May 09, 2019, 10:39:33 AM
Get a room, you two!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Stadler on May 09, 2019, 10:46:23 AM
I'm 52 as well (or will be in September) and she makes me look like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/uaMH1KX.jpg)
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Post by: Lowdz on May 09, 2019, 11:26:28 AM
Always liked Saraya and yes, shes a hottie alright. A few years ago she was meant to be on the bill for Firefest in the uk but priced herself out of it with ridiculous demands. Shame.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Samsara on May 09, 2019, 12:53:50 PM
Saraya is incredible. When the Blackbird Sings is actually one of my favorite records of all time. Love that the new stuff is in that vein. "Code Blue" is one of the new songs, and Sandi says in the Focus on Metal podcast that both her and Tony love it, and its very much the Blackbird Sings style.

I can't wait. She said that Tony suggested Frontiers, but there are also some other options on the table that she has yet to bring to Tony for consideration. So it seems like this is indeed going to happen. I know they are a niche band, but man, SO DAMN COOL Saraya will have a new record at some point.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on May 09, 2019, 04:15:58 PM
Always liked Saraya and yes, shes a hottie alright. A few years ago she was meant to be on the bill for Firefest in the uk but priced herself out of it with ridiculous demands. Shame.

Apparently the band were responsible for the late demands and she was left looking the "diva" ................who knows, maybe if that gig had happened things may have come along quicker than what has been the case.  Either way I am keen to hear what they come up with and very glad that Tony is involved rather than Sandi + new band. 
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Post by: Lowdz on May 09, 2019, 04:51:41 PM
I always preferred the debut to WTBS. Its not a bad album, and it sounds a million dollars, but I prefer the bluesy style of the first to the Queensryche like second..
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Post by: bl5150 on May 09, 2019, 05:17:17 PM
I can't say that I ever thought of QR when listening to Blackbird , but I can see how the Collins production could give that vibe. At times I did think the production on Blackbird was a bit too "big" .......starting to get into that "wall of sound."

I wavered from one to the other as my favourite - maybe I would say that my favourite songs are on Blackbird but the debut may be a touch more consistent across the album. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on May 10, 2019, 07:12:08 AM
MK confirmed FreeFall III on his FB page for sometime in 2020.

:caffeine:

I think.  I hope he hasn't run out of ideas/creativity.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Bolsters on May 10, 2019, 07:20:57 AM
MK confirmed FreeFall III on his FB page for sometime in 2020.

:caffeine:

I think.  I hope he hasn't run out of ideas/creativity.

Nice.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 10, 2019, 04:14:04 PM
I can't say that I ever thought of QR when listening to Blackbird , but I can see how the Collins production could give that vibe. At times I did think the production on Blackbird was a bit too "big" .......starting to get into that "wall of sound."

I wavered from one to the other as my favourite - maybe I would say that my favourite songs are on Blackbird but the debut may be a touch more consistent across the album.

I always felt it had an Empire feel to it.
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Post by: wolfking on May 10, 2019, 04:22:56 PM
MK confirmed FreeFall III on his FB page for sometime in 2020.

:caffeine:

I think.  I hope he hasn't run out of ideas/creativity.

A while away but I'll take it.
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Post by: wolfking on May 17, 2019, 11:58:20 PM
Listening to some Steelhouse Lane in the car at the moment and fuck Mike Slamer is one hell of a guitarist.  Wonderful, underrated player.

Random bump post of the day.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on May 18, 2019, 09:06:12 PM
Where would I start with Steelhouse Lane? I've never heard of them.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 18, 2019, 10:37:35 PM
Might be a bit light on for you overall Tim , but try Slaves of the New World.   
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Post by: wolfking on May 19, 2019, 03:44:28 AM
Where would I start with Steelhouse Lane? I've never heard of them.

Nah mate, you won't like them, trust me.
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Post by: wolfking on May 19, 2019, 03:45:19 AM
Thinking about that, I'd love to hear Slamer shredding for something really metal.
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Post by: TAC on May 19, 2019, 01:44:06 PM
OK, was checking out Slaves Of The New World. Yeah, not really my thing. I mean, it wasn't bad, and I wouldn't say it blows or anything like that. Something about that guy's voice. It's such a stereotypical vocal. But yes, that dude on guitar has some chops.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 19, 2019, 04:18:24 PM
I actually think Keith Slack has an amazing voice - never felt it was a cookie cutter vocal.  He has done nothing of consequence outside of Steelhouse Lane so maybe I'm the odd one out there.

Perhaps try some Seventh Key Tim..............Slamer on Guitar and Billy Greer from Kansas on vocals/bass

The Kid Could Play :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HSSkm8vp6E

Winds of War  : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG_DCYp8sfM  (takes a couple of mins to get going
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Post by: TAC on May 19, 2019, 04:26:40 PM
Oh, Keith Slack huh? I thought he sounded familiar but I couldn't place it. He did some work with Michael Schenker.


I've sampled Seventh Key before. I might even have them saved on Spotify. Not sure I can recall anything though.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 19, 2019, 04:30:33 PM
Oh, Keith Slack huh? I thought he sounded familiar but I couldn't place it. He did some work with Michael Schenker.


I've sampled Seventh Key before. I might even have them saved on Spotify. Not sure I can recall anything though.

Yeah I knew he had a touring gig with Schenker but wasn't aware of much recorded material from him outside of some obscure bluesy thing (Mudpie or something)........I probably have it floating around somewhere :lol
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Post by: TAC on May 19, 2019, 04:35:38 PM
He's on The Unforgiven Live album.  I don't find a lot of character in his voice.
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Post by: wolfking on May 19, 2019, 11:17:19 PM
I can see where you are both coming from re his vocals.
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Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2019, 03:46:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SviX-0XOe9Q

Frontiers spending slightly more on their budget on this one.  Just from the last Starbreaker.  Man, Tony isn't aging well.  Poor bugger, the cancer really took it out of him but his voice is still amazing.   I love how this is much faster than the album version, really good.  Wonder what the go is there.
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Post by: bl5150 on May 22, 2019, 08:39:42 PM
I wasn't aware Tony Harnell had cancer?   Tony Mills yes (sadly) - also ex-TNT - but wasn't aware of any major health scare for Tony Harnell.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 22, 2019, 09:00:09 PM
I wasn't aware Tony Harnell had cancer?   Tony Mills yes (sadly) - also ex-TNT - but wasn't aware of any major health scare for Tony Harnell.

MacAlpine too.
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Post by: wolfking on May 23, 2019, 12:02:47 AM
I wasn't aware Tony Harnell had cancer?   Tony Mills yes (sadly) - also ex-TNT - but wasn't aware of any major health scare for Tony Harnell.

Thyroid cancer too.  Makes a lot of what he is doing on this Starbreaker album really damn impressive.  Magnus even though is a bit safe on this one really tests Tony on a few songs.
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Post by: Stadler on May 23, 2019, 08:48:29 AM
I wasn't aware Tony Harnell had cancer?   Tony Mills yes (sadly) - also ex-TNT - but wasn't aware of any major health scare for Tony Harnell.

MacAlpine too.

Iommi. 
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 24, 2019, 09:06:41 AM
Couple of recent listens....

First Signal.  I think I threw up in my ears a little... and I'm a Hess fanboi!  This was absolutely terrible.
Neonfly (new single dropped today).  I like it; Tim will hate it.
Restless Spirits - project from the Lords of Black writers.  Multi vocalist (Castronova, Gioelli, Del Vecchio, Valdez) ... some really good hard-melodic rock.
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Post by: Samsara on May 24, 2019, 11:40:16 AM
Sweet Oblivion delivers.

shameless plug of my review - http://www.anybodylistening.net/sweetoblivion.html

I'm not usually a fan of how Frontiers sorta does these things, but this one works.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 24, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
OK, was checking out Slaves Of The New World. Yeah, not really my thing. I mean, it wasn't bad, and I wouldn't say it blows or anything like that. Something about that guy's voice. It's such a stereotypical vocal. But yes, that dude on guitar has some chops.

Both those Steelhouse Lane albums are excellent. The growls have ruined your ears Tim 😀

The biggest problem I had with the first album was that by the time Id heard it, Id heard half the songs done by other bands so it took a bit of getting used to.
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Post by: Lowdz on May 24, 2019, 12:55:00 PM
Sweet Oblivion delivers.

shameless plug of my review - http://www.anybodylistening.net/sweetoblivion.html

I'm not usually a fan of how Frontiers sorta does these things, but this one works.

Nice. Looking forward to it. Ive preordered it on the strength of the singles. Just have to wait now.
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Post by: wolfking on May 24, 2019, 02:47:25 PM
Couple of recent listens....

First Signal.  I think I threw up in my ears a little... and I'm a Hess fanboi!  This was absolutely terrible.
Neonfly (new single dropped today).  I like it; Tim will hate it.
Restless Spirits - project from the Lords of Black writers.  Multi vocalist (Castronova, Gioelli, Del Vecchio, Valdez) ... some really good hard-melodic rock.

That First Signal must be shit then if that's your take Chad.

I'm interested in the Restless Spirits.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 25, 2019, 07:07:03 AM
Couple of recent listens....

First Signal.  I think I threw up in my ears a little... and I'm a Hess fanboi!  This was absolutely terrible.
Neonfly (new single dropped today).  I like it; Tim will hate it.
Restless Spirits - project from the Lords of Black writers.  Multi vocalist (Castronova, Gioelli, Del Vecchio, Valdez) ... some really good hard-melodic rock.

That First Signal must be shit then if that's your take Chad.

It was absolute tripe.  So bad that I don't ever want to listen the the previous First Signal albums!   :lol
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Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2019, 04:49:26 AM
Couple of recent listens....

First Signal.  I think I threw up in my ears a little... and I'm a Hess fanboi!  This was absolutely terrible.
Neonfly (new single dropped today).  I like it; Tim will hate it.
Restless Spirits - project from the Lords of Black writers.  Multi vocalist (Castronova, Gioelli, Del Vecchio, Valdez) ... some really good hard-melodic rock.

That First Signal must be shit then if that's your take Chad.

It was absolute tripe.  So bad that I don't ever want to listen the the previous First Signal albums!   :lol

 :lol
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Post by: Evermind on June 03, 2019, 09:02:08 AM
Hey Kade, your favourite combination: Frontiers plus Sascha Paeth! :neverusethis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lkY08Jxwe4
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 03, 2019, 10:22:04 AM
That wasn't terrible!  Cowan sounds better there than she does anywhere else I've heard her.
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Post by: wolfking on June 04, 2019, 04:59:58 AM
Hey Kade, your favourite combination: Frontiers plus Sascha Paeth! :neverusethis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lkY08Jxwe4

I'm on my phone so will check this out later but if Del Viccho is somehow involved it could be the album of the century!
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Post by: Big Hath on June 04, 2019, 09:44:17 PM
Hey Kade, your favourite combination: Frontiers plus Sascha Paeth! :neverusethis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lkY08Jxwe4

I'm on my phone so will check this out later but if Del Viccho is somehow involved it could be the album of the century!

don't forget Issa
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2019, 12:48:26 AM
Hey Kade -  Paeth and Issa are working on a project together called  PISSA   ;)
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Post by: wolfking on June 05, 2019, 01:19:27 AM
Hey Kade -  Paeth and Issa are working on a project together called  PISSA   ;)

Even though you are taking the piss, I wouldn't be surprised if it were actually true.
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Post by: bl5150 on June 05, 2019, 04:06:13 AM
 :lol
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Post by: wolfking on June 06, 2019, 05:02:51 PM
Hey Kade, your favourite combination: Frontiers plus Sascha Paeth! :neverusethis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lkY08Jxwe4

Fucking awful vocals.  And what the fuck is with the dude with the double bass haha.  His solos are still shit too.  Crap song.  The only cool thing is Felix on the drums.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Stadler on June 07, 2019, 07:43:52 AM
... and not even that.   There's no way he played that kit on the recording.  You hear these amazing fills and see him flailing over two drums like Animal in The Muppets...

And I didn't care for the singing at all, though she looked good doing it.   
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Post by: Zook on June 07, 2019, 09:24:40 AM
I didn't think the song was that bad, just cookie cutter. It could have been a Vandroya filler track.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on June 07, 2019, 11:19:08 AM
Hey Kade, your favourite combination: Frontiers plus Sascha Paeth! :neverusethis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lkY08Jxwe4

Fucking awful vocals.  And what the fuck is with the dude with the double bass haha.  His solos are still shit too.  Crap song.  The only cool thing is Felix on the drums.

Yeah that was pretty awful. Wont be buying that. And I dont hate Paeth.
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Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2019, 02:40:26 PM
I wonder if the singer is on the whole thing or if there are different singers.
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Post by: cramx3 on June 07, 2019, 03:45:23 PM
I actually really dig it  :metal
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Post by: wolfking on June 07, 2019, 03:49:00 PM
I actually really dig it  :metal

I think you're in the wrong thread dude.  This is the disappointment thread.
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Post by: TAC on June 07, 2019, 07:05:30 PM
I actually really dig it  :metal

I think you're in the wrong thread dude.  This is the disappointment thread.

 :rollin :rollin :rollin

Young Cram is apparently lost! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on June 08, 2019, 04:29:19 AM
 :lol

When I started this thread in 2011, I never in my wildest dreams we would end up at this point.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 08, 2019, 05:20:51 AM
:lol

When I started this thread in 2011, I never in my wildest dreams we would end up at this point.

You've just gotten older and crabbier.  :getoffmylawn:

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Post by: jingle.boy on June 20, 2019, 05:06:55 AM
To save this from Page 2!!!

(https://scontent.fybz2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/64962364_1611218165700649_6597852717719224320_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_eui2=AeHsHA9DfW-8ldA37wtSsC8MASkzz0_nk9K1r46UdQVggeWP7NTwUnT-HKsZly4HF44oh0vKeZzDdtZJrETRlwtGoHCOiIvNdUu2b8hGLO7qwg&_nc_oc=AQlRaxy8lFpkqopjAvUR4JMUPRaQ-iSN5sIBk7CjpkMQWKmf6t8hJF4nox6fzCcFpYw&_nc_ht=scontent.fybz2-2.fna&oh=770e571ac168d77b29ad7c87c57a901e&oe=5DC54569)

Release Date - Oct 11.
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Post by: wolfking on June 20, 2019, 05:20:11 AM
That's a fucking epic album cover.  :metal
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Post by: Stadler on June 20, 2019, 06:18:23 AM
Reminiscent of "Holy Diver"...
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Post by: wolfking on June 20, 2019, 05:31:30 PM
Hoping Magnus experiments with his songwriting on this one a bit more.  Would love something a bit more epic.
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Post by: TAC on June 20, 2019, 06:08:22 PM
That's a fucking epic album cover.  :metal

That it is.

Was the first Ferryman album any good?
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Post by: Bolsters on June 20, 2019, 08:30:58 PM
It's Magnus being Magnus. I didn't think much of it at first but it was a grower.
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Post by: wolfking on June 20, 2019, 09:27:18 PM
That's a fucking epic album cover.  :metal

That it is.

Was the first Ferryman album any good?

Magnus level solid.  So that means a step up from our normal classification of solid.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 21, 2019, 08:03:16 AM
That's a fucking epic album cover.  :metal

That it is.

Was the first Ferryman album any good?

Magnus level solid.  So that means a step up from our normal classification of solid.

https://i.imgur.com/f7FdEdG.jpg

Dave's right too.   ;D
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Post by: Lowdz on June 21, 2019, 04:40:58 PM
Reminiscent of "Holy Diver"...

Reminiscent of their first album with a different colour scheme 😀
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Post by: bl5150 on June 21, 2019, 06:19:38 PM
Reminiscent of "Holy Diver"...

Reminiscent of their first album with a different colour scheme 😀

that was my first thought
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 22, 2019, 07:19:16 AM
ZFG - Special (Official Lyric Video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q50Zjwpt2M4)

Nothing really special but I enjoy the singer and also they contain two offsprings from the Toto camp.  :tup :lol

They tour with Toto this summer.
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Post by: Zook on June 22, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
ZFG - Special (Official Lyric Video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q50Zjwpt2M4)

Nothing really special but I enjoy the singer and also they contain two offsprings from the Toto camp.  :tup :lol

They tour with Toto this summer.

Sounds like Adrenaline Mob.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 05, 2019, 12:48:23 PM
ZFG - Special (Official Lyric Video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q50Zjwpt2M4)

Nothing really special but I enjoy the singer and also they contain two offsprings from the Toto camp.  :tup :lol

They tour with Toto this summer.

Sounds like Adrenaline Mob.
Haven't heard AM that much but they might do.

Work Of Art - In Progresss is such a feel good album and exactly the amount of cheese needed for me. (https://www.disboards.com/data/avatars/m/90/90063.jpg?1422798427)
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 17, 2019, 01:52:27 AM
(https://i1.wp.com/themaloikrockblog.se/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/98C4FB14-688D-4516-827B-CFBDFB700C53.jpeg?w=750)

BREAKING NEWS: Work of Art will release their new album Exhibits on November 8, 2019. First single, pre-order, and more info coming soon! Based on all the questions we get about this one, then quite a few of you should be excited about it, no? 😎

Tracklisting:

Misguided Love
Be The Believer
Another Night
This Isnt Love Feat. Vince Dicola
Gotta Get Out
Come Home
If I Could Fly
Destined To Survive
Scars To Prove It
What You Want From Me
Let Me Dream
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Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2019, 05:22:09 AM
 :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on July 17, 2019, 05:26:51 AM
Vince Dicola -  there's a blast from the past.  Brings to mind 80's soundtrack synth hits..................Rocky IV , Transformers etc....
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Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2019, 05:32:24 AM
Vince Dicola -  there's a blast from the past.  Brings to mind 80's soundtrack synth hits..................Rocky IV , Transformers etc....

I don't know who that is but thank fuck it's not Issa!  :tup

I'm actually really looking forward to this one.  I know I will be the only one.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 17, 2019, 05:40:44 AM
Wasn't their last album soft as shit on a hot summer night?  In Progress is great, but I totally have no recollection of their release after that.  Or am I mixing up WOA with someone else?
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Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2019, 05:43:51 AM
Wasn't their last album soft as shit on a hot summer night?  In Progress is great, but I totally have no recollection of their release after that.  Or am I mixing up WOA with someone else?

I wouldn't call any of them heavy but the last one was a bit more AOR  than In Progress.  Although the first one was the most AOR of all of them I guess.

This will be more of the same but I'm okay with that.  Melodic rock great vocals from Lars and cool leads from Robert.  Hopefully though they don't go softer again.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 17, 2019, 06:16:06 AM
Their last album have grown on me alot I have too say, took a few more spins than the previous.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 17, 2019, 07:25:00 AM
Maybe your handle should be MrPoof_shack-a-lack.  I recall that album being a big bag of powder puff.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 17, 2019, 08:11:26 AM
Maybe your handle should be MrPoof_shack-a-lack.  I recall that album being a big bag of powder puff.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/3oEduUJgrJnTH093yw/giphy.gif)

Exuse me but I happen to like melodic powder puff rock!
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Post by: wolfking on July 17, 2019, 03:45:49 PM
Their last album have grown on me alot I have too say, took a few more spins than the previous.

Yeah same.  It indeed was a grower but still a good slab of melodic rock.  It's good to see I have someone in my corner with these guys.
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Post by: jjrock88 on July 17, 2019, 11:18:17 PM
Vince Dicola -  there's a blast from the past.  Brings to mind 80's soundtrack synth hits..................Rocky IV , Transformers etc....

Vince Dicola is major talented and his score from Rocky 4 is awesome. Training Montage and War are probably his best songs. His work from the Transformers 1986 soundtrack has a big following. Actually that whole album and movie still has a major following. Listen to The Touch by Stan Bush and that song will be stuck in your head for hours lol. I cant remember if Stan Bush has been mentioned in this thread before but he is melodic rock 101.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 18, 2019, 12:36:06 AM
Vince Dicola -  there's a blast from the past.  Brings to mind 80's soundtrack synth hits..................Rocky IV , Transformers etc....

Vince Dicola is major talented and his score from Rocky 4 is awesome. Training Montage and War are probably his best songs. His work from the Transformers 1986 soundtrack has a big following. Actually that whole album and movie still has a major following. Listen to The Touch by Stan Bush and that song will be stuck in your head for hours lol. I cant remember if Stan Bush has been mentioned in this thread before but he is melodic rock 101.

Thanks for the info J.  Stan Bush has been mentioned a couple of times but from what I've heard nothing really grabs me.  I'll check that one track out though
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Post by: bl5150 on July 18, 2019, 02:29:32 AM
If Blob sees this he will be all over it - massive Stan Bush fan  :D
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Post by: Lowdz on July 18, 2019, 04:05:57 PM
Stan Bush is a genius of AOR compared to the shit released these days. Ido love his Barrage album, Dial 880i088whatever And Every Beat Of my Heart.
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Post by: wolfking on July 21, 2019, 04:22:06 AM
Jeez time flies.  I just realised the amount of Fronteir releases that I normally would check out that I've missed;

Find Me
First Signal
Crazy Lixx
End Machine
Toby Hitchcock
Timo Tolkki
Hardline
Spirits of Fire

Even the Whitesnake I still haven't listened to.
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Post by: jingle.boy on July 21, 2019, 06:10:32 AM
Crazy Lixx and Hardline I quite enjoyed. Didn't know there was a release from Toby!  First Signal was awful. Timo - pass.  He's been too disappointing over the past few years - Allen/Lande and Avalon stuff  :tdwn
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Post by: Lowdz on July 21, 2019, 11:18:49 AM
What he said.

Though the Hardline is average. Thats a win around here.

The Whitesnake is excellent though, Dave's voice aside. But even then it doesnt spoil the album.
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Post by: wolfking on July 21, 2019, 03:48:52 PM
There was a video for a song off the Toby album and it was terrible.

The last Crazy Lixx I really enjoyed too so I'm sure this is more of the same.

I'll eventually check them out and share my thoughts.
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Post by: Lowdz on July 21, 2019, 03:56:15 PM
There was a video for a song off the Toby album and it was terrible.

The last Crazy Lixx I really enjoyed too so I'm sure this is more of the same.

I'll eventually check them out and share my thoughts.

I wasnt as big a fan of the first Toby Hitchcock album as some of you guys, but the new one is shite.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 27, 2019, 10:12:04 PM
Generic as hell but as per usual some great vocals from Paul Laine and ripping guitar from Rob Marcello

The Defiants: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQmUkCWCYME
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Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2019, 05:30:31 AM
Generic as hell but as per usual some great vocals from Paul Laine and ripping guitar from Rob Marcello

The Defiants: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQmUkCWCYME

The couple of songs I've heard from this is as vomit inducing as it comes BUT for the style is really quite fresh and very well written so I'm keen for this one.  Actual generic melodic rock done really well.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 28, 2019, 06:31:16 AM
New Eclipse (from a couple of days ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-EvFAx0OsE

The chorus is terrible (lyrically), but otherwise, this ain't bad.  This riffs are pretty nice, actually.

Defiants was ok... nothing overly memorable, but a little grade above 'solid'.
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Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2019, 06:35:00 PM
I thought the Eclipse was fucking awful to be honest.  It's such a shame what a pile of crap this band has become after what they were able to produce early in their career.
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Post by: jjrock88 on August 29, 2019, 01:02:58 AM
Never heard of Eclipse but didn't make it past 30 seconds.  If Wolf says its fucking awful and a piece of crap, I think thats end of story lol
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Post by: wolfking on August 29, 2019, 05:28:28 AM
Never heard of Eclipse but didn't make it past 30 seconds.  If Wolf says its fucking awful and a piece of crap, I think thats end of story lol

The disappointing thing is is that years ago I think I was the main one pimping these guys hard out.  They've just been letting me down more and more, I've lost all faith.
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Post by: wolfking on August 29, 2019, 05:34:45 AM
The Find Me album I would say has every generic, cliche, regurgitated vocal melody, lyric, guitar melody, song structure, keyboard line and patch you could have ever thought of from the world of melodic rock put into 1 package.  Every song is literally the same.  If you could pinpoint an album that has literally nothing fucking new whatsoever, it's this.  It's actually fucking impressive how generic they managed to make this.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 29, 2019, 05:47:15 AM
The Find Me album I would say has every generic, cliche, regurgitated vocal melody, lyric, guitar melody, song structure, keyboard line and patch you could have ever thought of from the world of melodic rock put into 1 package.  Every song is literally the same.  If you could pinpoint an album that has literally nothing fucking new whatsoever, it's this.  It's actually fucking impressive how generic they managed to make this.

I recall that you had a stiff one over their last  (first?) album, but I found the above comment could have applied to it.  I literally remembered NOTHING about it within a day or so.
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Post by: Bolsters on August 29, 2019, 05:51:34 AM
I really enjoy the first two albums, but yeah, the latest one did nothing for me either.
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Post by: bl5150 on August 29, 2019, 06:45:33 AM
I haven't bothered with the new Find Me ..........song quality aside , that dude has a hell of a voice. Shame he hasn't appeared on more quality albums over the years.
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Post by: wolfking on August 29, 2019, 04:24:45 PM
The Find Me album I would say has every generic, cliche, regurgitated vocal melody, lyric, guitar melody, song structure, keyboard line and patch you could have ever thought of from the world of melodic rock put into 1 package.  Every song is literally the same.  If you could pinpoint an album that has literally nothing fucking new whatsoever, it's this.  It's actually fucking impressive how generic they managed to make this.

I recall that you had a stiff one over their last  (first?) album, but I found the above comment could have applied to it.  I literally remembered NOTHING about it within a day or so.

The first one was great, the second I enjoyed although generic as fuck but yes, similar to this one, but this one takes generic to a whole new level.

I haven't bothered with the new Find Me ..........song quality aside , that dude has a hell of a voice. Shame he hasn't appeared on more quality albums over the years.

Robbie's voice is fucking unreal.  He is the reason I gave this a listen and may even give it the benefit of the doubt and listen again.  Such a strong voice.

I would love to hear him sing some metal, seriously.
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Post by: Lowdz on August 30, 2019, 05:03:59 PM
I liked the Defiants, didnt like the Eclipse at all. Not even going to bother with Find Me.

Giants Last Of The Runaways is 30 today. Now theres a melodic rock album ❤️
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Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2019, 06:06:22 PM
Yep, this First Signal is fucking shithouse.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on September 01, 2019, 01:44:53 AM
Giants Last Of The Runaways is 30 today. Now theres a melodic rock album ❤️

Love that record.  :heart :metal
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 01, 2019, 04:19:44 AM
Yep, this First Signal is fucking shithouse.

I mean, it's slightly better than FU, but yeah... it was all tons of shyte.  Toby's wasn't much better.  Brace yourself.
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Post by: wolfking on September 01, 2019, 04:32:05 AM
Yep, this First Signal is fucking shithouse.

I mean, it's slightly better than FU, but yeah... it was all tons of shyte.  Toby's wasn't much better.  Brace yourself.

I think I need a break.  Gonna roll through some Helloween this week to get Tim a top 25.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 09, 2019, 12:13:46 PM
Quote from: Work Of Art
We know you've been waiting a long time, but the wait is almost over. This Wednesday, September 11th at noon CET, the first music video from our upcoming album, EXHIBITS will world premiere! Follow this link to sign up to be alerted when it goes live: https://youtu.be/tFELwC4U6HQ

Exhibits is out November 8th on Frontiers Music srl.

Soon time for some epic powder-puff rock!!  :tup :metal
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Post by: wolfking on September 09, 2019, 03:04:26 PM
Fuck yes!  :metal
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Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2019, 05:39:01 AM
Had the most awful day at work.

Got home and got a notification for the new WOA!  What a way to end such a crap day.

It's funny it's been a couple of years for the band to come up with the same song.  Nothing new here at all and totally recycled but I like it.  Great melodies and performance.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 11, 2019, 07:50:04 AM
Had the most awful day at work.

Got home and got a notification for the new WOA!  What a way to end such a crap day.

It's funny it's been a couple of years for the band to come up with the same song.  Nothing new here at all and totally recycled but I like it.  Great melodies and performance.

It's got that typical Jo Williams era Toto sound to it (minus the complexity) and is a nice enough song but yeah.........heard it a dozen times before from them.   Tasty guitar solo was probably the best bit.

Supposedly the album is a bit more "rock" than usual so I guess this is a decent enough wimpy single to kick it off.   I hope to God there's some variety in the sound though cos I am just about done with bands like this that keep rehashing stuff.  I heard some stuff from the upcoming Pretty Maids the other day and I am finding them the same.   One of my all time favourite bands (despite most albums having plenty of filler) but well and truly out of ideas for the most part now.
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 11, 2019, 08:29:43 AM
I thought the same about the PM tune.  Liked it well enough, but it's the same ole same ole.
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Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2019, 03:20:25 PM
Had the most awful day at work.

Got home and got a notification for the new WOA!  What a way to end such a crap day.

It's funny it's been a couple of years for the band to come up with the same song.  Nothing new here at all and totally recycled but I like it.  Great melodies and performance.

It's got that typical Jo Williams era Toto sound to it (minus the complexity) and is a nice enough song but yeah.........heard it a dozen times before from them.   Tasty guitar solo was probably the best bit.

Supposedly the album is a bit more "rock" than usual so I guess this is a decent enough wimpy single to kick it off.   I hope to God there's some variety in the sound though cos I am just about done with bands like this that keep rehashing stuff.  I heard some stuff from the upcoming Pretty Maids the other day and I am finding them the same.   One of my all time favourite bands (despite most albums having plenty of filler) but well and truly out of ideas for the most part now.

Robert Sall is a really good guitarist.  I was annoyed they didn't utilise him in W.E.T. bar a solo on each album.  But I guess Erik calls the shots but hes better than Magnus IMO.

Yeah, I really hope there is some variety.  I liked the tune but not sure I could take the same thing 12 times over and over.

I agree with the PM too.  It's like a lot of bands these days find a good sound or are able to reinvent their sound but after a couple of albums, their style gets stagnant and for some reason they just write the same style at lesser quality.  It's hard to describe but the sound changes permanently and then they seem to get stagnant yet again.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 26, 2019, 06:22:36 PM
For those after a blast of 80's (and bearing in mind this is an advance single that's probably on the commercial side vs the album) this new H.E.A.T. sounds like a bit of a return to form -  more along the lines of Address The Nation with a better production.

Generic but quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFaPjl9jYNw&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1IQefXAQkkFGQPpzudKg4UH55xMKrmPJit8rr0uYaKwiQE2dluaOMVg6g
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Post by: wolfking on September 27, 2019, 04:50:27 AM
For those after a blast of 80's (and bearing in mind this is an advance single that's probably on the commercial side vs the album) this new H.E.A.T. sounds like a bit of a return to form -  more along the lines of Address The Nation with a better production.

Generic but quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFaPjl9jYNw&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1IQefXAQkkFGQPpzudKg4UH55xMKrmPJit8rr0uYaKwiQE2dluaOMVg6g

Will check this soon.  Loved ATN and the next one (can't even remember the name) but what I heard of the last one was terrible.

Edit: not bad.  Definitely a step back in the right direction.
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Post by: bl5150 on September 27, 2019, 07:33:55 AM
I wasn't even a fan of the one after ATN  (Tear Down The Walls).........everyone else seems to like it though.

If you love Address The Nation and don't have the Korean bonus track (Too Far On The Wild Side) - it's up there with the rest of the album.  Let me know if you want it in mp3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ihsdTRwEuY
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Post by: Lowdz on September 27, 2019, 11:16:57 AM
I enjoyed that. I didnt like the last one too much but ATN and TDTW were excellent. I didnt rate the albums with the first singer at all. Erik has a great voice.
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Post by: wolfking on November 08, 2019, 05:14:12 AM
The new Defiants is actually a pretty decent melodic rock album.  Reminds me of Revolve in places.  For what it is, it's well done.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 08, 2019, 06:21:33 AM
The new Defiants is actually a pretty decent melodic rock album.  Reminds me of Revolve in places.  For what it is, it's well done.

Yes, I enjoyed it. Rob Marcelo is a monster
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Post by: bl5150 on November 28, 2019, 04:09:11 AM
New solo album from Carl Dixon (Coney Hatch) out tomorrow. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9rMK9FqRJs
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 29, 2019, 03:26:33 AM
Thats a pretty good tune! Im not expecting another release from Coney Hatch so this is nice to hear new music from Carl
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Post by: wolfking on November 29, 2019, 01:46:04 PM
Since the Frontiers thread has been bumped.  I ordered a copy of both the WOA and Ferrymen.  WOA hasn't arrived and will be delayed apparently but I think the Ferrymen is pretty good.  At first it seems like just a Magnus by numbers in the way he's become a bit lately but on repeat listens, I think this has feels of his old stuff.  There's moments that make me think of Last Tribe and even the Tony O'Hora album with the melodies.

In a lot of ways it is a Magnus by numbers album but I do think he's put a little more effort in here.  His solos are the same every damn aong but at least his playing also is cleaner and even slightly less self indulgent too.  There's some nice songs.  Would have liked a big long heavy epic or something but it seems those are saved now strictly for Primal Fear.  Production is quite good too.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 29, 2019, 06:16:04 PM
I think Ferrymen II is a fair bit better than the debut.  Still not sure if I prefer it over the Starbreaker album or not.
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Post by: Bolsters on November 29, 2019, 06:28:25 PM
Admittedly I need to listen to the second Ferrymen more, but at the moment I still prefer the first one.
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Post by: wolfking on November 29, 2019, 09:38:24 PM
I think Ferrymen II is a fair bit better than the debut.  Still not sure if I prefer it over the Starbreaker album or not.

I think it's better than the latest Starbreaker.
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Post by: Peter Mc on December 03, 2019, 09:52:38 AM
I see Revolution Saints have just released a new song and announced new album for 24th January. I know its not fashionable but I think these guys are pretty good and new song does nothing to change that. I know its super derivative of Journey but Journey arent making new music so this is the next best thing for me, classic AOR sounding song with stellar musicians. Looking forward to the new album.
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2019, 04:15:54 AM
I see Revolution Saints have just released a new song and announced new album for 24th January. I know its not fashionable but I think these guys are pretty good and new song does nothing to change that. I know its super derivative of Journey but Journey arent making new music so this is the next best thing for me, classic AOR sounding song with stellar musicians. Looking forward to the new album.

I thought the first album was fantastic but the second not so much.  I'll check the new one though.
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Post by: Peter Mc on December 04, 2019, 04:56:14 AM
I agree that 2nd album wasnt as good but still some decent stuff on there for me.
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Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2019, 02:32:45 PM
I agree that 2nd album wasnt as good but still some decent stuff on there for me.

There was a couple of pretty good songs but not enough to warrant repeat listens for me.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 20, 2019, 11:10:19 AM
Russell Allen/Anette Olzon collab coming in 2020. Here's the tiniest of teasers:

https://youtu.be/bHhQ6t5ia70?t=15

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Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2019, 01:07:17 PM
Allen/Olzen!?

Pffft.......ugh.
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Post by: Zook on December 20, 2019, 01:28:25 PM
Great team up, but I'd like another album with Russell and Amanda Somerville. The last one they did was a rerecording of an album in another language, and while not bad, the fun and energy wasn't there. Russell and Floor would be another great duo.
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on December 20, 2019, 01:40:07 PM
So I guess it's official Lande and Karlsson have some kind of beef? The last Allen/Lande album had Timo Tolkki, and now thatRuss and Magnus are working again, Frontiers is pasting in one of the available singers from their roster (no dis to Anette, but she isn't busy with a main band at the moment) to make one half of the duet.
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Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2019, 01:52:55 PM
So I guess it's official Lande and Karlsson have some kind of beef? The last Allen/Lande album had Timo Tolkki, and now thatRuss and Magnus are working again, Frontiers is pasting in one of the available singers from their roster (no dis to Anette, but she isn't busy with a main band at the moment) to make one half of the duet.

It is a little strange, and a big missed opportunity but Jorn did sing on Magnus' last solo record so who knows.
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on December 20, 2019, 04:21:36 PM
Huh, interesting. Oh well, I'm wrong then, carry on.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 20, 2019, 04:57:02 PM
Also coming in 2020....................

(https://img.discogs.com/N5P0eF099QG1C84O076u0NOLJ1c=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/A-333490-1295343520.jpeg.jpg)(https://img.discogs.com/3fUywQyIB8pHsmDxKboKcLNVcQE=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/A-3055909-1357415287-9835.jpeg.jpg)


Happy New Year Kade  :metal
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Post by: TAC on December 20, 2019, 05:21:16 PM
Who the hell are those people? :lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2019, 05:36:22 PM
Also coming in 2020....................

(https://img.discogs.com/N5P0eF099QG1C84O076u0NOLJ1c=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/A-333490-1295343520.jpeg.jpg)(https://img.discogs.com/3fUywQyIB8pHsmDxKboKcLNVcQE=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/A-3055909-1357415287-9835.jpeg.jpg)


Happy New Year Kade  :metal

 :rollin

I asked for that.  Even Russ looks depressed in that pic being paired up with that bitch.
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Post by: Zook on December 20, 2019, 08:18:13 PM
Who's the blonde?
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Post by: TAC on December 20, 2019, 08:19:14 PM
Australian Britney.
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Post by: Zook on December 20, 2019, 08:20:41 PM
Oh... Is she any good? :P
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Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2019, 09:45:03 PM
Australian Britney.

 :lol  she ain't Aussie bro.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 21, 2019, 02:55:25 AM
So will we be seeing you down here in March Kade?

Firehouse have just been announced as headliner for the MR Fest - first ever tour.


Saturday :  Firehouse, Eclipse,Enuff Znuff , XYZ, Tony Harnell, Paul Laine, White Widdow

Sunday: Reckless Love, FM , Crazy Lixx,  Ron Keel, Kip Winger, Janet Gardner (Vixen),
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 21, 2019, 06:02:39 AM
That's a .... solid .... lineup.
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Post by: wolfking on December 21, 2019, 01:12:55 PM
So will we be seeing you down here in March Kade?

Firehouse have just been announced as headliner for the MR Fest - first ever tour.


Saturday :  Firehouse, Eclipse,Enuff Znuff , XYZ, Tony Harnell, Paul Laine, White Widdow

Sunday: Reckless Love, FM , Crazy Lixx,  Ron Keel, Kip Winger, Janet Gardner (Vixen),

Not a bad lineup really.  Worth it for Kip.  I don't think I'd be approved time off in March however.   :'(
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Post by: TAC on December 21, 2019, 05:45:50 PM
I heard they were naming the stages.

On Saturday the bands are playing the Sucks Stage.
On Sunday they're playing the Blows Stage.
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Post by: bl5150 on December 21, 2019, 08:37:44 PM
If you send me your poster of Kip in the shower I will try and get him to sign it for you.

That's a .... solid .... lineup.

 ;D

I also forgot to mention Teramaze are playing , but only acoustic I think which is a shame.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 22, 2019, 12:10:20 AM
Sounds like a good show to me. Ive seen Firehouse live and they put on a great show
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Post by: wolfking on December 22, 2019, 03:32:21 AM
Pretty sure I own a Firehouse album, but didn't think much of it from memory.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 22, 2019, 06:20:26 AM
I first heard Firehouse through my older sister, she was very into glam metal in the early 90s with the hair and everything. :lol Anyway she had the promo single for Don't Treat Me Bad on Vinyl. I LOVED those songs and listened to them alot back in the day. Don't Treat Me Bad and Overnight Sensation are killer tracks imo.

https://www.discogs.com/Firehouse-Dont-Treat-Me-Bad/release/2474263
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 22, 2019, 11:50:53 AM
I first heard Firehouse through my older sister, she was very into glam metal in the early 90s with the hair and everything. :lol Anyway she had the promo single for Don't Treat Me Bad on Vinyl. I LOVED those songs and listened to them alot back in the day. Don't Treat Me Bad and Overnight Sensation are killer tracks imo.

https://www.discogs.com/Firehouse-Dont-Treat-Me-Bad/release/2474263

Dont forget All She Wrote, which is one of my all time favorite hair metal tunes  :metal
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 22, 2019, 05:07:52 PM
Yea that's a killer track too!  :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on December 22, 2019, 08:29:22 PM
Dean Wells just confirmed for me that Teramaze are now actually playing an electric set.............. :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on December 23, 2019, 03:23:27 PM
I first heard Firehouse through my older sister, she was very into glam metal in the early 90s with the hair and everything. :lol Anyway she had the promo single for Don't Treat Me Bad on Vinyl. I LOVED those songs and listened to them alot back in the day. Don't Treat Me Bad and Overnight Sensation are killer tracks imo.

https://www.discogs.com/Firehouse-Dont-Treat-Me-Bad/release/2474263

Dont forget All She Wrote, which is one of my all time favorite hair metal tunes  :metal

First two albums were awesome, a couple of fillers aside. Great live too.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 23, 2019, 03:24:27 PM
Just seen on Facebook that the next Jeff ascot Soto album is being written with... Alessandro the generic cheese meister.
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Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2019, 03:31:01 PM
Just seen on Facebook that the next Jeff ascot Soto album is being written with... Alessandro the generic cheese meister.

For fucks sake!  His last one wasn't Damage Control level but was quite enjoyable. 

I checked out the new Revolution Saints video also and bleh.  Doesn't seem like they are going to be able to recreate the quality of the first one for me, but saying that it's only one song.  The comments also had Frontiers post the song writing credits;

1. When The Heartache Has Gone - Daniel Rossall, Alessandro Del Vecchio, Doug Aldrich
2. Price To Pay - Alessandro Del Vecchio
3. Rise - Daniel Rossall, Alessandro Del Vecchio, Doug Aldrich
4. Coming Home - Alessandro Del Vecchio
5. Closer - Alessandro Del Vecchio
6. Higher - Jack Blades, Doug Aldrich, Daniel Rossall, Alessandro Del Vecchio
7. Talk To Me - Alessandro Del Vecchio
8. It's Not The End (It's Just The Beginning) - Jack Blades
9. Million Miles - Alessandro Del Vecchio, Doug Aldrich
10. Win Or Lose - Daniel Rossall, Alessandro Del Vecchio
11. Eyes Of A Child - Jack Blades, Tommy Shaw

So much Del Vecchio.  And now JSS.  At least for him get Magnus or someone to write something with a bit of thickness and substance.
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Post by: Peter Mc on December 24, 2019, 06:31:11 PM
Just shows how different people have different tastes but, to me at least, When The Heartache Has Gone could easily fit right in on the first Revolution Saints album. Cool catchy rock song for me, looking forward to the new album.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 26, 2019, 09:47:12 AM
You cant expect any variety in the output when theres only a couple of people writing all the songs.
That song was ok but theres just nothing to get excited about. Absolutely nothing to make me want to play it. Is it going to compete with the best stuff from back in the day? Absolutely not. So whats the point?
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Post by: Peter Mc on December 26, 2019, 06:56:12 PM
Its not as good as the absolute best stuff back in the day but those bands arent making new music so it fills a hole for me in terms of well made classic AOR music. Also, whilst it doesnt match up to the absolute best Journey stuff, that first album would still be a solid Journey album in my book. Not one of their best but not their worst either.  I dont really get the argument really that you shouldnt listen to anything if another band did it better 30 odd years ago. Its like saying Im not going to listen to Dream Theater because Rush did it better

Dont get me wrong, if Journey were still churning out decent quality material, theres no real need for Revolution Saints. Theyre not though so I can either just continue listening to the same old music over and over or I can enjoy listening to some new stuff in a similar vein which, whilst not as good, is still well made AOR with stellar musicians.
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Post by: wolfking on December 27, 2019, 04:02:38 AM
Are any of these bands albums going to become long time classics?  Are any of Revolution Saints albums classics for a new generation?  Are we going to be listening to Revolution Saints and talking about them in 20 years?

Same could be said about music 20 years ago now, but while bands like this produce somewhat catchy tunes, there's just no substance or longevity anymore.  Even when I made this thread, it seemed bands still wanted to produce high quality melodic rock for the love of the genre, but they are producing this stuff now for the sake of it and getting some sales.  Songs written by the same people and given to musicians put together and told to play them to get paid.

Yes, I love the first album, but I just don't see the point anymore now either.  If these 3 guys got together by themselves and shared a vision and wrote songs together, that would be different.

I think that's why bands say like Work of Art, while generic, still have some credibility as they are a band and write their owns songs, well one guy does anyway.
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Post by: Lowdz on December 27, 2019, 12:13:36 PM
We slagged the pop artists off for years for not writing their own stuff. Now our bands are doing it. 😡

As Kade said, if they were writing their own stuff theres a point.

And RS arent anywhere near as good as the top AOR bands. Not even the guitar playing stands out either.
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Post by: wolfking on December 27, 2019, 01:19:16 PM
We slagged the pop artists off for years for not writing their own stuff. Now our bands are doing it. 😡

As Kade said, if they were writing their own stuff theres a point.

And RS arent anywhere near as good as the top AOR bands. Not even the guitar playing stands out either.

Doug's solo on that new track was quite awkward and sloppy.

It's not like these guys can't write a song either.  Yes, their names are on some songs here but that doesn't cut it. 

Guys like Bob Catley you can understand because he's never been a song writer, and even the first Toby album I started the thread for.  Those you can understand but these guys?  Sorry, we can see what's going on here.
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Post by: Peter Mc on December 27, 2019, 08:37:04 PM
If its enjoyable, its enjoyable, doesnt really matter who wrote it. Elvis didnt write his own songs. Im not suggesting these are classics and will be played forever, theyre not. Im also not suggesting this isnt calculated, it is. Frontiers had signed Journey who promptly stopped making records so they made their own version and got a guy who can write those type of songs. Hes not in the same class as Perry/Cain/Schon in their pomp clearly but when was the last time any of them wrote anything that could be considered a classic?

In an ideal world Journey would still be producing solid albums of enjoyable music even with Arnel on vocals but theyve decided to be a nostalgia act and I dont blame them for that. I am therefore left with the choice of just listening to old Journey albums for my AOR fix or listening to a new albeit lesser band playing new songs in the style of Journey. I like to do a bit of both.

If people dont like them and think the songs are terrible then thats cool, we all like different things. The other stuff though theyve been put together, they dont write their own songs shouldnt really matter, only whether or not you enjoy the end product.  I enjoy a lot of their songs despite how they came to be or who wrote what.
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Post by: jingle.boy on December 28, 2019, 05:17:32 AM
I think what most of us are trying to insinuate is that we don't enjoy these not *because* these acts/albums are simply 'being thrown together', but that is a big part of *why* we don't like (most of) these factory produced bands/albums.  They sound lifeless... no heart/soul/emotion ... there's no connection.  And that is the reason for the lack of enjoyment.  So, Frontier's model isn't in-and-of-itself the reason most of us don't like the output, but an indirect reason.

Not sure if that's making any sense.
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Post by: TAC on December 28, 2019, 02:28:12 PM
No, I think it IS the direct reason.
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Post by: wolfking on December 28, 2019, 03:13:21 PM
I dunno, I think they both play a part.
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Post by: TAC on December 28, 2019, 03:48:35 PM
But their model IS throwing these bands together.
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Post by: jjrock88 on December 28, 2019, 03:56:15 PM
Tim keeps typing IS in capitals, so I think he is getting stern with this
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Post by: TAC on December 28, 2019, 04:00:18 PM
I IS! :lol
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Post by: wolfking on December 29, 2019, 02:53:10 AM
If its enjoyable, its enjoyable, doesnt really matter who wrote it. Elvis didnt write his own songs. Im not suggesting these are classics and will be played forever, theyre not. Im also not suggesting this isnt calculated, it is. Frontiers had signed Journey who promptly stopped making records so they made their own version and got a guy who can write those type of songs. Hes not in the same class as Perry/Cain/Schon in their pomp clearly but when was the last time any of them wrote anything that could be considered a classic?

In an ideal world Journey would still be producing solid albums of enjoyable music even with Arnel on vocals but theyve decided to be a nostalgia act and I dont blame them for that. I am therefore left with the choice of just listening to old Journey albums for my AOR fix or listening to a new albeit lesser band playing new songs in the style of Journey. I like to do a bit of both.

If people dont like them and think the songs are terrible then thats cool, we all like different things. The other stuff though theyve been put together, they dont write their own songs shouldnt really matter, only whether or not you enjoy the end product.  I enjoy a lot of their songs despite how they came to be or who wrote what.

Even though it seems we are ganging up on you slightly Peter, you make very valid and acceptable points.  I just wish there was some more authentic AOR and melodic rock going around.  It just seems the Fronters model is the main way at the moment for this type of music.

Saying that, I recommend you check the new Defiants album.  That's some really nice AOR.
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Post by: Peter Mc on December 31, 2019, 06:45:30 PM
Ha ha, dont worry, its all very polite and good natured. I just think sometimes people see the background of the group and are like oh you can totally tell that this was a manufactured band, it sounds heartless etc.  I just wonder if theyd feel the same if this was a new band theyd never heard of and didnt know the story of. Well never know I guess whether its prejudice or not unless they came to this conclusion before knowing their background.  It sounds to me like DC is singing and playing his ass off and there are some awesome guitar solos too but I do get the instinctive suspicion of manufactured bands and music. I have often been the same.

I dont know why Im defending them so much to be honest, its not like theyre one of my favourite bands or anything. I just find them a fun listen every once in a while.  Ill keep an eye out for the band you mentioned.
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Post by: wolfking on January 01, 2020, 03:36:47 AM
Ha ha, dont worry, its all very polite and good natured. I just think sometimes people see the background of the group and are like oh you can totally tell that this was a manufactured band, it sounds heartless etc.  I just wonder if theyd feel the same if this was a new band theyd never heard of and didnt know the story of. Well never know I guess whether its prejudice or not unless they came to this conclusion before knowing their background.  It sounds to me like DC is singing and playing his ass off and there are some awesome guitar solos too but I do get the instinctive suspicion of manufactured bands and music. I have often been the same.

I dont know why Im defending them so much to be honest, its not like theyre one of my favourite bands or anything. I just find them a fun listen every once in a while.  Ill keep an eye out for the band you mentioned.

I'll give the new one a good chance mate when it comes out.  Might even revisit the second album.
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Post by: Peter Mc on January 01, 2020, 05:30:38 AM
2nd one is a step down, no doubt. I think it was helped for me as I heard that one first. It was bought for me as a Xmas present and I instantly wasnt keen Just sounds like a poor mans Journey was the phrase I uttered! I gave it a few more spins in the car though and grew to like it more and more. It got to the point then when I started to look into them a little more and realised they had an earlier album. I then bought that and liked it even more.

When I listen to them now back to back, the first one is much better. Had I got the albums in the correct order, Id probably be less of a fan of album 2. There are some ok songs on it though.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 04, 2020, 05:58:02 AM
The song Let Me Dream from WOA latest album, is stuck in my head. The 80s vibe is strong in this one.  :tup
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Post by: wolfking on January 04, 2020, 02:23:45 PM
The song Let Me Dream from WOA latest album, is stuck in my head. The 80s vibe is strong in this one.  :tup

My copy keeps getting delayed in shipping for some reason.  I want to listen but still may hold out.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 10, 2020, 07:16:51 PM
Another band (like Rush) that are gods in their genre but that never became a massive favourite of mine are Magnum.  Aside from OASTN, Vigilante era I have never managed to get on board as heavily as most , but for a band with guys in their 70s this new track sounds pretty damn lively.

Will keep an eye out for the new album shortly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWrYftJT-Ho&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: wolfking on January 10, 2020, 11:39:17 PM
Another band (like Rush) that are gods in their genre but that never became a massive favourite of mine are Magnum.  Aside from OASTN, Vigilante era I have never managed to get on board as heavily as most , but for a band with guys in their 70s this new track sounds pretty damn lively.

Will keep an eye out for the new album shortly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWrYftJT-Ho&feature=youtu.be

The last couple have just been really boring IMO.  Princess Arrow was the last one I thought that was really good.  I'll check the link when I'm at home.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 11, 2020, 09:51:51 AM
I'm a big Magnum fan, but the last couple of records weren't that good, apart from a few songs here and there.

Bob Catley still sounds great and I will check out and probably buy the new record, if only to support them and for completist reasons, but I'm not expecting much. It will probably be solid.

On The 13th Day was the last one I really enjoyed. Their best ones are from (sadly) a long time ago and before the reunion. On A Storyteller's Night, Wings Of Heaven, Rock Art, Chase The Dragon are my favorites.

But I never heard someone call them gods of their genre, I always had the impression that they were kind of under the radar for most rock fans.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 11, 2020, 05:28:09 PM

But I never heard someone call them gods of their genre, I always had the impression that they were kind of under the radar for most rock fans.

When I say "of their genre" I mean amongst dedicated AOR/melodic rock fans.  Hardly any "rock fans" in my country would know who Magnum are but in what I would call the "online AOR/melodic rock community" which tends to be largely UK/Europe based Magnum are almost universally regarded as one of the all time greats.
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Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2020, 02:40:09 AM

But I never heard someone call them gods of their genre, I always had the impression that they were kind of under the radar for most rock fans.

When I say "of their genre" I man amongst dedicated AOR/melodic rock fans.  Hardly any "rock fans" in my country would know who Magnum are but in what I would call the "online AOR/melodic rock community" which tends to be largely UK/Europe based Magnum are almost universally regarded as one of the all time greats.

I often wonder how many people there are around Brisbane to Gold Coast there are that know listen to bands like Magnum, Rush etc.  Dream Theater has gotten a decent turnout each time they play here I guess, so there must be some.
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Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2020, 04:40:46 AM
Another band (like Rush) that are gods in their genre but that never became a massive favourite of mine are Magnum.  Aside from OASTN, Vigilante era I have never managed to get on board as heavily as most , but for a band with guys in their 70s this new track sounds pretty damn lively.

Will keep an eye out for the new album shortly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWrYftJT-Ho&feature=youtu.be

Wow, this was really really good.  Hopefully the album is more in this style and less ploddy.  This is a very well written song.
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Post by: Evermind on January 12, 2020, 05:36:06 AM
Another band (like Rush) that are gods in their genre but that never became a massive favourite of mine are Magnum.  Aside from OASTN, Vigilante era I have never managed to get on board as heavily as most , but for a band with guys in their 70s this new track sounds pretty damn lively.

Will keep an eye out for the new album shortly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWrYftJT-Ho&feature=youtu.be

Wow, this was really really good.  Hopefully the album is more in this style and less ploddy.  This is a very well written song.

Definitely not bad. Sounds a bit dated but that was expected, the song itself is actually alright. I'll check out the album.

I think I bought Sacred Blood "Divine" Lies a few years ago and there were some good songs there but that's about it, never returned to that album.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 12, 2020, 06:30:02 AM
That new Magnum track is really good
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Post by: Lowdz on January 12, 2020, 02:26:42 PM
Another band (like Rush) that are gods in their genre but that never became a massive favourite of mine are Magnum.  Aside from OASTN, Vigilante era I have never managed to get on board as heavily as most , but for a band with guys in their 70s this new track sounds pretty damn lively.

Will keep an eye out for the new album shortly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWrYftJT-Ho&feature=youtu.be

The last couple have just been really boring IMO.  Princess Arrow was the last one I thought that was really good.  I'll check the link when I'm at home.

I loved the run from Chase The Dragon to Wings of Heaven but after that I got bored. I enjoyed the last one after a few boring albums. Bobs voice is showing its age now but hes still listenable.
They certainly have a style.
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Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2020, 03:10:13 PM
Bob is 72, so I think he sounds excellent on this track.

Huh, Dennis Ward plays bass on this album.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 12, 2020, 03:25:58 PM
Bob is 72, so I think he sounds excellent on this track.

Huh, Dennis Ward plays bass on this album.

I think he's a full time member now - quit PC 69.   Perhaps he has given them a kick up the butt in terms of rocking a bit more - hopefully.
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Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2020, 03:28:07 PM
Bob is 72, so I think he sounds excellent on this track.

Huh, Dennis Ward plays bass on this album.

I think he's a full time member now - quit PC 69.   Perhaps he has given them a kick up the butt in terms of rocking a bit more - hopefully.

Huh.  I wonder what that means for PC69.  I guess Alfred and David are still there so I'm sure they'll continue. 
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Post by: Lowdz on January 13, 2020, 11:17:24 AM
Id be pretty gutted by this if PC 69 were more active.

Anyone heard the second track from the Revolution Saints? Shakes head sadly.
One arpeggiated piano chord riff. Lazy. Boring. Singing is good.
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Post by: Samsara on January 13, 2020, 11:20:19 AM

Anyone heard the second track from the Revolution Saints? Shakes head sadly.
One arpeggiated piano chord riff. Lazy. Boring. Singing is good.

Didn't bother. From the first record these guys didn't write their own stuff. No interest in hearing great musicians act like pop acts and perform other peoples' songs. I got into hard rock and metal because the musicians generally wrote what they played. Stuff like this...smh. Just come on.
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Post by: Peter Mc on January 13, 2020, 11:27:41 AM
Yeah, not so keen on second single from Revolution Saints.
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Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2020, 03:22:20 PM
Id be pretty gutted by this if PC 69 were more active.

Anyone heard the second track from the Revolution Saints? Shakes head sadly.
One arpeggiated piano chord riff. Lazy. Boring. Singing is good.

Yeah, it's kind of a 'huh' moment.  Don't see them doing much more worthwhile in the future honestly.  I think Dennis Ward is a smart man.  He can probably see PC69 is a bit stale and he has the ability to do a little bit more.
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Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2020, 03:22:37 PM
Yeah, not so keen on second single from Revolution Saints.

Fuck, it must be bad!
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Post by: Peter Mc on January 13, 2020, 04:41:57 PM
Ha ha! Even my favourite bands have songs I dont like and these are far from that! Its not terrible but nothing particularly great about it. Melody seems a bit off, not Deens best vocal and not much of a guitar solo.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 13, 2020, 11:45:34 PM
Bob is 72, so I think he sounds excellent on this track.

Huh, Dennis Ward plays bass on this album.

Bob doesn't sound like in his best days anymore, but he's still a great singer and one of the few who still deliver even in his advanced age.

Didn't know that Dennis Ward was on this. I always liked Al Barrow's playing, but maybe Dennis can get them a bit more rocking again.
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Post by: wolfking on January 13, 2020, 11:49:29 PM
Yeah Al was solid on the bass.
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Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2020, 03:17:14 PM
New Khymera;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgpIsJKX9Fo

Last one was a bit soft with not many rockers at all.  This is a decent start.  Dennis sounds good as usual.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 22, 2020, 03:01:43 PM
The new Harem Scarem track The Death of Me is on Spotify now if you're in Oz (tomorrow for US) -  their choruses have been samey for a while and this is no exception but apart from that I think it's sounding promising for the album.   Pretty fresh sounding riff and it's quite a heavy track for a single , good guitar work and if I was to pick an era it sounds like I'd say Believe with a touch of Voice of Reason.   

I haven't been 100% on board since Believe so this has me at least interested.
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2020, 03:15:22 PM
The new Harem Scarem track Death of Me is on Spotify now if you're in Oz (tomorrow for US) -  their choruses have been samey for a while and this is no exception but apart from that I think it's sounding promising for the album.   Pretty fresh sounding riff and it's quite a heavy track for a single , good guitar work and if I was to pick an era it sounds like I'd say Believe with a touch of Voice of Reason.   

I haven't been 100% on board since Believe so this has me at least interested.

Found a youtube link.  Not too bad actually.  Pete doing some nice work in the solo.  I didn't find too much I liked with the last one for some reason, but 13 I really did enjoy. 
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Post by: Lowdz on January 22, 2020, 03:35:41 PM
I never heard HS at the time of those first albums. My first was Weight of the World, and that and the next two were great. I did go back to those first two which I love but never got into those middle albums at all.
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Post by: wolfking on January 22, 2020, 03:42:08 PM
I never heard HS at the time of those first albums. My first was Weight of the World, and that and the next two were great. I did go back to those first two which I love but never got into those middle albums at all.

I have DTF to thank for Harem Scarem.  All you guys really pimped them back in the Frontiers thread from memory and I jumped on board.
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Post by: Peter Mc on January 23, 2020, 06:37:29 PM
Just finished first listen of Revolution Saints new album. Sounds like a pretty weak effort unfortunately, am guessing this will be the end of things. Deens voice not quite what it was a few years ago either, you certainly wouldnt mistake him for Steve Perry on this album.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2020, 09:13:36 PM
The new Harem Scarem track Death of Me is on Spotify now if you're in Oz (tomorrow for US) -  their choruses have been samey for a while and this is no exception but apart from that I think it's sounding promising for the album.   Pretty fresh sounding riff and it's quite a heavy track for a single , good guitar work and if I was to pick an era it sounds like I'd say Believe with a touch of Voice of Reason.   

I haven't been 100% on board since Believe so this has me at least interested.

Found a youtube link.  Not too bad actually.  Pete doing some nice work in the solo.  I didn't find too much I liked with the last one for some reason, but 13 I really did enjoy.

Really!  I liked United much more than 13.  Hopefully I dig this tune/album.  I liked Believe (but I know you really mean Karma Cleansing  :biggrin:), but wasn't too much of a fan of VoR.  At the time, Mood Swings was an absolute love of mine, but I felt they tried to jump on the 'grunge' train with VoR, and hated it.  I really should go back to it with a more open set of ears.  I spun Live in Japan a while back, and liked it much better than I remembered.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2020, 09:20:38 PM
The new Harem Scarem track Death of Me is on Spotify now if you're in Oz (tomorrow for US) -  their choruses have been samey for a while and this is no exception but apart from that I think it's sounding promising for the album.   Pretty fresh sounding riff and it's quite a heavy track for a single , good guitar work and if I was to pick an era it sounds like I'd say Believe with a touch of Voice of Reason.   

I haven't been 100% on board since Believe so this has me at least interested.

Found a youtube link.  Not too bad actually.  Pete doing some nice work in the solo.  I didn't find too much I liked with the last one for some reason, but 13 I really did enjoy.

Really!  I liked United much more than 13.  Hopefully I dig this tune/album.  I liked Believe (but I know you really mean Karma Cleansing  :biggrin:), but wasn't too much of a fan of VoR.  At the time, Mood Swings was an absolute love of mine, but I felt they tried to jump on the 'grunge' train with VoR, and hated it.  I really should go back to it with a more open set of ears.  I spun Live in Japan a while back, and liked it much better than I remembered.

Yeah - Karma Cleansing.   ;D    I made sure to get the Japanese version (Believe) because Karma Cleansing doesn't have what was my favourite track (at the time) which was Staying Away ........sung by Darren.

I was taken aback by Voice of Reason at the time but grew to really like a number of tracks on it.  From there I found them very hit and miss - not sure I even liked a single track on Big Bang Theory and then they really lost it with Rubber etc.........a few good songs here and there but give me the first 3-4 (and mostly the first two) and that's about all I need.    Mood Swings was somewhere in my top 20 in the DTF Top 50 ..........

Aside from the samey chorus I did really like the direction of the new single.
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Post by: jjrock88 on January 23, 2020, 09:27:07 PM
The new Harem Scarem track Death of Me is on Spotify now if you're in Oz (tomorrow for US) -  their choruses have been samey for a while and this is no exception but apart from that I think it's sounding promising for the album.   Pretty fresh sounding riff and it's quite a heavy track for a single , good guitar work and if I was to pick an era it sounds like I'd say Believe with a touch of Voice of Reason.   

I haven't been 100% on board since Believe so this has me at least interested.

Found a youtube link.  Not too bad actually.  Pete doing some nice work in the solo.  I didn't find too much I liked with the last one for some reason, but 13 I really did enjoy.

Really!  I liked United much more than 13.  Hopefully I dig this tune/album.  I liked Believe (but I know you really mean Karma Cleansing  :biggrin:), but wasn't too much of a fan of VoR.  At the time, Mood Swings was an absolute love of mine, but I felt they tried to jump on the 'grunge' train with VoR, and hated it.  I really should go back to it with a more open set of ears.  I spun Live in Japan a while back, and liked it much better than I remembered.

Yeah - Karma Cleansing.   ;D    I made sure to get the Japanese version (Believe) because Karma Cleansing doesn't have what was my favourite track (at the time) which was Staying Away ........sung by Darren.

I was taken aback by Voice of Reason at the time but grew to really like a number of tracks on it.  From there I found them very hit and miss - not sure I even liked a single track on Big Bang Theory and then they really lost it with Rubber etc.........a few good songs here and there but give me the first 3-4 (and mostly the first two) and that's about all I need.    Mood Swings was somewhere in my top 20 in the DTF Top 50 ..........

Aside from the samey chorus I did really like the direction of the new single.

Japanese bonus tracks  :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: wolfking on January 23, 2020, 10:25:00 PM
The new Harem Scarem track Death of Me is on Spotify now if you're in Oz (tomorrow for US) -  their choruses have been samey for a while and this is no exception but apart from that I think it's sounding promising for the album.   Pretty fresh sounding riff and it's quite a heavy track for a single , good guitar work and if I was to pick an era it sounds like I'd say Believe with a touch of Voice of Reason.   

I haven't been 100% on board since Believe so this has me at least interested.

Found a youtube link.  Not too bad actually.  Pete doing some nice work in the solo.  I didn't find too much I liked with the last one for some reason, but 13 I really did enjoy.

Really!  I liked United much more than 13.  Hopefully I dig this tune/album.  I liked Believe (but I know you really mean Karma Cleansing  :biggrin:), but wasn't too much of a fan of VoR.  At the time, Mood Swings was an absolute love of mine, but I felt they tried to jump on the 'grunge' train with VoR, and hated it.  I really should go back to it with a more open set of ears.  I spun Live in Japan a while back, and liked it much better than I remembered.

I didn't give United much of a go to be fair.

I love Believe.  I haven't studied all their albums heavily but that would be second fav after Mood Swings.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2020, 03:41:45 AM
Just finished first listen of Revolution Saints new album. Sounds like a pretty weak effort unfortunately, am guessing this will be the end of things. Deens voice not quite what it was a few years ago either, you certainly wouldnt mistake him for Steve Perry on this album.

That's disappointing mate.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 24, 2020, 05:06:09 AM
re: Harem Scarem... I agree on the hit-and-miss, Brent.  Even the 2000s stuff is a bit inconsistent. 

And I deleted the Rubber/Ultra Feel rubbish from my library.
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Post by: Peter Mc on January 24, 2020, 08:57:06 AM
Just finished first listen of Revolution Saints new album. Sounds like a pretty weak effort unfortunately, am guessing this will be the end of things. Deens voice not quite what it was a few years ago either, you certainly wouldnt mistake him for Steve Perry on this album.

That's disappointing mate.

Actually, Ive had it on in the background while working today and its sounding a little better, may have been a little harsh.
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Post by: Lowdz on January 24, 2020, 12:13:24 PM
Just finished first listen of Revolution Saints new album. Sounds like a pretty weak effort unfortunately, am guessing this will be the end of things. Deens voice not quite what it was a few years ago either, you certainly wouldnt mistake him for Steve Perry on this album.

That's disappointing mate.

Actually, Ive had it on in the background while working today and its sounding a little better, may have been a little harsh.

Deen doesnt look well these days. I know he had his drug issues and Im certainly no insider, but he looks rough. It might just be age and the look hes going for I guess.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2020, 04:59:35 PM
Listening to that Harem Scarem song again, it's really good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on January 25, 2020, 05:38:50 AM
I gave Voice of Reason a spin yesterday. Despite liking a few songs more than I originally did, it's still mostly shite to me. If I reach for Harem Scarem, there are still 10 other albums I'd grab before that one.
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Post by: bl5150 on January 25, 2020, 05:53:48 AM
I gave Voice of Reason a spin yesterday. Despite liking a few songs more than I originally did, it's still mostly shite to me. If I reach for Harem Scarem, there are still 10 other albums I'd grab before that one.

I actually listened to a few tracks off that today too - the main one I come back to on that is Candle and perhaps the title track to a lesser extent.  But yeah........pretty crap given what came before.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Peter Mc on January 26, 2020, 06:56:55 PM
Just finished first listen of Revolution Saints new album. Sounds like a pretty weak effort unfortunately, am guessing this will be the end of things. Deens voice not quite what it was a few years ago either, you certainly wouldnt mistake him for Steve Perry on this album.

That's disappointing mate.

Actually, Ive had it on in the background while working today and its sounding a little better, may have been a little harsh.

Ive given this a few listens and I was too harsh. Its a solid album, probably better than the previous one. Runs out of a bit of steam towards the end but I like most of the songs here. I will stick to my comment about Deen not quite being at the level he was but hes still a good singer. Just sounds a bit more like Deen Castronovo now rather than Steve Perry but maybe thats not a bad thing.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on February 01, 2020, 07:00:34 AM
This new track from H.E.A.T. is almost a caricature of 80's soundtrack melodic rock but the sound is spot on and I can't help but tap the foot/bang the head.  Sounds like this new album is going to be a return to form and better than solid  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6d8xJqY2uA&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: jjrock88 on February 01, 2020, 09:14:35 AM
That H.E.A.T tune is very good. I really like their videos as well
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Post by: Lowdz on February 01, 2020, 10:17:13 AM
I agree with you there Zbrent. I almost turned it off as it was so generic, but stuck with it. I always dislike effects on the vocal - another cliche. Its usually a sign that the melody is weak.

I love Eriks voice though.
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Post by: wolfking on February 01, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
This new track from H.E.A.T. is almost a caricature of 80's soundtrack melodic rock but the sound is spot on and I can't help but tap the foot/bang the head.  Sounds like this new album is going to be a return to form and better than solid  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6d8xJqY2uA&feature=youtu.be

Yeah, quite a good track.  I don't even think I listened to the last one based on the songs released but this sounds more old school H.E.A.T. which is cool.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on February 01, 2020, 07:32:26 PM
You guys suck...apologizing to my ears ahead of time.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on February 01, 2020, 08:58:26 PM
You guys suck...apologizing to my ears ahead of time.

Not growlie enough?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on February 01, 2020, 09:30:06 PM
Haven't listened yet.  But given who is appreciating it, and who is dissing it, I'm quite certain I'll like it.   :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on February 01, 2020, 09:54:48 PM
Haven't listened yet.  But given who is appreciating it, and who is dissing it, I'm quite certain I'll like it.   :lol

 :lol I can assure you its a great tune
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2020, 03:21:41 AM
You guys suck...apologizing to my ears ahead of time.

Who let you in here?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on February 02, 2020, 05:40:29 AM
Haven't listened yet.  But given who is appreciating it, and who is dissing it, I'm quite certain I'll like it.   :lol

 :lol I can assure you its a great tune

Your assurance was appreciated, and absolutely accurate.  Loved it!  Looking forward to this release.  I don't have any H.E.A.T. in my library - I've probably asked for recommendations before, but what are the top 2 suggestions?  Tim input not required  :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on February 02, 2020, 06:23:46 AM
I think this new one could end up being my fave (melodic and heavy) but the other one to check out is Address The Nation  (the first with the current singer) which is a bit softer and more diverse.  I think you would probably also like at least a decent part of Freedom Rock with the original singer but there is filler to get through.

Samples:



Living On The Run (off ATN) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjstO43juVg&t=292s
Better Off Alone (off ATN) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjstO43juVg&t=1106s
In And Out Of Trouble (Off ATN):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjstO43juVg&t=1347s

Black Night (off Freedom Rock) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdxIny_fG1Q&t=183s


I have a Korea only bonus track off ATN which is worth having IMHO - happy to oblige if you want it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH7O7A0pGcY
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on February 02, 2020, 06:43:01 AM
Thanks Brent.  Living on the Run was given to me in a roulette by Jon.  Loved it.  Turns out I did save that album on Spotify.  I'll check out Freedom Rock
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 02, 2020, 12:55:44 PM
I really like Tearing Down the Walls too.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on February 02, 2020, 01:04:53 PM
I really like Tearing Down the Walls too.

Noted... I'll give 'em both a go.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Samsara on February 03, 2020, 12:28:02 PM
Full admission -- the Dirty Shirley record is damn good. The cover art might be the worst I've ever seen, but the music is great.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 03, 2020, 01:06:31 PM
Full admission -- the Dirty Shirley record is damn good. The cover art might be the worst I've ever seen, but the music is great.

That's the George Lynch one hey?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Samsara on February 03, 2020, 01:41:42 PM
Full admission -- the Dirty Shirley record is damn good. The cover art might be the worst I've ever seen, but the music is great.

That's the George Lynch one hey?

Yep!
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Post by: Lowdz on February 03, 2020, 02:22:34 PM
Haven't listened yet.  But given who is appreciating it, and who is dissing it, I'm quite certain I'll like it.   :lol

 :lol I can assure you its a great tune

Your assurance was appreciated, and absolutely accurate.  Loved it!  Looking forward to this release.  I don't have any H.E.A.T. in my library - I've probably asked for recommendations before, but what are the top 2 suggestions?  Tim input not required  :lol

Address The Nation and Tearing Down The Walls are all you need 🤘
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 20, 2020, 01:41:07 PM
This new Khymera is shaping up nicely and the new track sounds really good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on February 21, 2020, 10:55:02 PM
What did you think of the new H.E.A.T.  Paul??

I think it is a fantastic sounding album , but perhaps a bit one dimensional in the songwriting department vs Address The Nation.   I could certainly do without a song called Rock Your Body to open up but from there it's a pretty damn consistent album.

For me it's an excellent example of 80's AOR/hard rock but still can't knock off Address The Nation.    The production is about as good as it gets these days. 

If they can combine this sound/heavier edge with the quality/variety of the songs on ATN then that's the perfect H.E.A.T. album for me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2020, 04:19:24 AM
Looking forward to checking it out now Brent.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on February 22, 2020, 05:14:35 AM
Yeah, I gotta spin that H.E.A.T. album.

Also, new ARP.  Didn't know he was working on anything.  Pretty typical ARP, yet still very enjoyable.  When this came up on my Spotify new release playlist, my first thought in hearing the opening riffs was 'this sounds like the kind of tune Gioelli would be the singer for'.  :lol  Nailed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwJ0BnWbU_A
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on February 22, 2020, 06:07:09 AM
I really enjoyed it. I really love Eriks voice. Hes a monster.

Far better than the last one.

Have you heard the Waiting For Monday album? I wasnt expecting to like it but thought it was excellent. Gave me a Red Dawn sort of feel although minus the outstanding guitar work on that.

Frontiers output just recently has been much better.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on February 22, 2020, 07:35:00 PM
I am a mile behind on releases but have sampled a clip or two from Waiting For Monday.............if I recall it sounded like they were going for a bit of a Journey/The Storm vibe.  Will check it out properly at some point soon hopefully.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: ProfessorPeart on February 22, 2020, 07:50:09 PM
Full admission -- the Dirty Shirley record is damn good. The cover art might be the worst I've ever seen, but the music is great.

Wow, that is Dance of Death bad artwork.

I really love the album Lynch did with Ultraphonix. I will probably check this out.

EDIT: Oh, that is the drummer from Evanescence on there. I really like him. This increases my interest.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2020, 02:59:49 AM
Frontiers output just recently has been much better.

That's good to hear, but I've kind of given up.  I only really check out albums from the bands I know now.  Maybe when I get some more time I'll go back and explore a few.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Peter Mc on February 23, 2020, 04:43:12 PM
Yeah, I gotta spin that H.E.A.T. album.

Also, new ARP.  Didn't know he was working on anything.  Pretty typical ARP, yet still very enjoyable.  When this came up on my Spotify new release playlist, my first thought in hearing the opening riffs was 'this sounds like the kind of tune Gioelli would be the singer for'.  :lol  Nailed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwJ0BnWbU_A

Huge ARP fan of old but find his last few albums to be pretty uninspired and this does nothing to excite me for the new one unfortunately. Could just be that Ive become burned out on him (hes essentially been releasing the same album over and over again for about 30 years!) but his melodies, riffs and solos just dont hit me like they did on earlier material.  Last good album for me was Mystica in 2006.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2020, 05:06:07 PM
I think Tales of the Crown was the last one I really liked.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on February 24, 2020, 06:03:48 AM
You're spot on Peter.  We used to joke here that we could even tell which track # an ARP song would be just by hearing it.  His formula hasn't changed in like ... forever.  I also agree with Kade... Tales was a very good album.  I think I tried each of the last four, but can't be sure.  Certainly haven't bought any of them.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on February 24, 2020, 06:21:53 AM
The production on the ARP sounded shit, even for YouTube..Nothing to get excited about there and the riff sounds like Kill The King by Rainbow.

Agree that ARP albums have all sounded the same for what seems like forever. They are mostly interchangeable. Wild Obsession is still my favourite of his.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on February 24, 2020, 09:11:00 AM
That song completely sounded like Kill the King

I definitely havent heard everything from ARP, but his one standout song that Ive heard is the kick ass Unchain the Thunder
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2020, 12:13:47 PM
Had a listen to the song.  It was quite alright actually but damn his guitar playing is fucking bad.  Never was a outstanding guitarist but he just gets worse over the years.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2020, 02:56:51 PM
Had a listen to the song.  It was quite alright actually but damn his guitar playing is fucking bad.  Never was a outstanding guitarist but he just gets worse over the years.

Yup...........I never rated him as a lead guitarist either.   He has come up with some cool crunching riffs over the years but ran out of original ideas early days.

He's the sort of guy I got into because of his ability to attract top vocalists (Soto, Rock etc....) back in the day.



I definitely havent heard everything from ARP, but his one standout song that Ive heard is the kick ass Unchain the Thunder
 

The first song of theirs I heard back in the day and remains a fave.  Not super surprised you like it given the singer :)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on February 28, 2020, 02:22:28 PM
This isn't Frontiers... but it could be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QoUsmRVre0

I dig it.  Anyone heard of these guys??  They've got 2 releases out there.

inb4 Tim... "This blows!"
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on February 28, 2020, 04:15:53 PM
If heard them before, theyre ok. Dont own anything by them but wouldnt rule it out.

Another recent Frontiers release was the self titled by Passion. Decent melodic rock, a bit of a late 80s, early 90s jukebox of an album, with songs sounding a bit like different bands - heres a Danger Danger song, heres Giant, Night Ranger, 80s KISS. Then an AC DC song with Brian style vocals. I enjoyed it though.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on February 28, 2020, 05:25:33 PM
This isn't Frontiers... but it could be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QoUsmRVre0

I dig it.  Anyone heard of these guys??  They've got 2 releases out there.

inb4 Tim... "This blows!"

I believe they were featured in one of my Best Of..........whatever year podcasts , probably in the also-rans. 
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Post by: wolfking on February 28, 2020, 06:06:48 PM
Not bad.  The singer is desperately trying to be Tobi.  It's cool the band are replying to the comments.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on March 02, 2020, 01:08:56 PM
This one is for Tim and Stads.  You'll see why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_BfZatJnHE

Tim, be patient, and at least have a listen - although, if you can suffer thru Lords of Trident, surely you can tolerate watching these guys.  :biggrin:

Vocally, I'm getting a huge Rick Altzi vibe.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: goo-goo on March 02, 2020, 02:06:53 PM
Digging this Archon Angel with Zak Steven on vocals. Anybody else listening to Archon Angel?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on March 02, 2020, 02:33:27 PM
Digging this Archon Angel with Zak Steven on vocals. Anybody else listening to Archon Angel?

What I've listened to so far, I've really liked the music, with an equal dislike of the vocals.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on March 03, 2020, 05:28:44 AM
This one is for Tim and Stads.  You'll see why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_BfZatJnHE

Tim, be patient, and at least have a listen - although, if you can suffer thru Lords of Trident, surely you can tolerate watching these guys.  :biggrin:

Vocally, I'm getting a huge Rick Altzi vibe.

Musically, it's not even that bad. But holy shit, painting their faces like that? I'm surprised Gene Simmons hasn't sued them yet.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2020, 02:25:14 PM
Yeah, it's actually a pretty good song with a nice sound and the guitarist is very good.  Totally sounds like Altzi, but I can't take them seriously with the face paint.  I'm sure Gene just hasn't seen this yet.  You know if he does, they are in trouble.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2020, 02:49:41 PM
I heard them first on Spotify, and was 100% convinced it was Altzi.  Then I saw them on YT.  Oh man.  :lolpalm:

Still a good tune, and the album is .... wait for it ..... SOLID!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on March 03, 2020, 04:37:27 PM
Digging this Archon Angel with Zak Steven on vocals. Anybody else listening to Archon Angel?

What I've listened to so far, I've really liked the music, with an equal dislike of the vocals.

It ran out of steam a bit and the Queensryche rip off put me off a bit.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2020, 07:14:23 PM
Still haven't listened to the Archon Angel.  Fuck I'm lazy checking out new shit these days.  Still haven't checked the H.E.A.T. either.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on March 03, 2020, 07:18:06 PM
Still haven't listened to the Archon Angel.  Fuck I'm lazy checking out new shit these days. 

Speaking of lazy.. There's no need to rush.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2020, 08:28:09 PM
Still haven't listened to the Archon Angel.  Fuck I'm lazy checking out new shit these days.  Still haven't checked the H.E.A.T. either.

I finally listened to HEAT II today. Excellent stuff. Tim hates it though.

So far, Ive been very good at focussing on my existing library this year. Only bought 1 album; only saved 4 on Spotify.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on March 03, 2020, 08:29:59 PM
I've only bought 1 too, but I've Saved a shitload.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2020, 09:48:56 PM
Still haven't listened to the Archon Angel.  Fuck I'm lazy checking out new shit these days.  Still haven't checked the H.E.A.T. either.

I finally listened to HEAT II today. Excellent stuff. Tim hates it though.

So far, I’ve been very good at focussing on my existing library this year. Only bought 1 album; only saved 4 on Spotify.

Perhaps if Tim could provide a list of all the stuff he has been hating lately you might find some more stuff to buy  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on March 04, 2020, 05:13:23 AM
Still haven't listened to the Archon Angel.  Fuck I'm lazy checking out new shit these days.  Still haven't checked the H.E.A.T. either.

I finally listened to HEAT II today. Excellent stuff. Tim hates it though.

So far, Ive been very good at focussing on my existing library this year. Only bought 1 album; only saved 4 on Spotify.

Perhaps if Tim could provide a list of all the stuff he has been hating lately you might find some more stuff to buy  ;D

You might be on to something here ... :justjen
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on March 04, 2020, 05:58:44 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: The Walrus on March 04, 2020, 06:22:14 AM
Still haven't listened to the Archon Angel.  Fuck I'm lazy checking out new shit these days.  Still haven't checked the H.E.A.T. either.

I finally listened to HEAT II today. Excellent stuff. Tim hates it though.

So far, Ive been very good at focussing on my existing library this year. Only bought 1 album; only saved 4 on Spotify.

The new H.E.A.T is great.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2020, 02:44:29 PM
Still haven't listened to the Archon Angel.  Fuck I'm lazy checking out new shit these days.  Still haven't checked the H.E.A.T. either.

I finally listened to HEAT II today. Excellent stuff. Tim hates it though.

So far, Ive been very good at focussing on my existing library this year. Only bought 1 album; only saved 4 on Spotify.

I haven't purchased a single album this year yet.  The only one I might though you guys would have no interest in. (Sepultura).

Just doesn't seem that exciting anymore in terms of new releases.  Saying that, my check out list consists of Archon Angel, H.E.A.T, Demons and Wizards and Night Flilght Orchestra.  Not much more after that I'm really looking forward too either.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: goo-goo on March 06, 2020, 10:16:20 AM
I'm listening to Novena and Allen/Olzon...I'm digging both releases a lot. The Novena album reminds me of early Haken and in my opinion, it's a lot more interesting and better than Vector.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2020, 10:47:41 AM
New Harem Scarem out today.  First two tracks were weak, but the rest of the album is solid.

Also, and Kade might remember this one from a Roulette submission of mine a few years back, Shaft of Steel just had a new release out.  Gonna spin that one next.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 06, 2020, 10:56:13 AM
https://youtu.be/uavh38flVv4

Harem Scarem video just posted. Pretty standard HS fare. Decent.

Just heard the latest Dynazty song and thought it was shit. I really hate their keyboard sounds. https://youtu.be/UQ4uyq3GU1w
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2020, 03:38:40 PM
New Harem Scarem out today.  First two tracks were weak, but the rest of the album is solid.

Also, and Kade might remember this one from a Roulette submission of mine a few years back, Shaft of Steel just had a new release out.  Gonna spin that one next.

Oh yeah, Drive, killer song.  Wasn't a fan that this was just on an EP but a full length album has me interested.
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Post by: TAC on March 06, 2020, 03:40:29 PM
https://youtu.be/uavh38flVv4

Harem Scarem video just posted. Pretty standard HS fare. Decent.

That's actually not a bad song. I couldn't fault anyone for liking this.

Is that Lonestar on guitar?
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 06, 2020, 05:04:11 PM
Solid Harem Scarem
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Post by: TAC on March 06, 2020, 05:16:52 PM
That's redundant.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 06, 2020, 07:46:12 PM
Its better than the new Saxon.
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Post by: TAC on March 06, 2020, 07:50:50 PM
Its better than the new Saxon.

The last Saxon album kind of blew. It was the first real dud of this "modern" era of the band.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 06, 2020, 08:52:41 PM
Its better than the new Saxon.

Cmon Chadster, lets dial it back with the zingers
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Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2020, 01:26:58 PM
Its better than the new Saxon.

The last Saxon album kind of blew. It was the first real dud of this "modern" era of the band.

Nah, it was awesome.
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Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2020, 06:33:47 AM
Lol, the new House of Lords song is one of the worst things I've ever heard.  Fucking diabolical.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 10, 2020, 08:33:49 AM
Lol, the new House of Lords song is one of the worst things I've ever heard.  Fucking diabolical.

Yikes lol. Assuming you wont be picking this one up  :lol
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Post by: wolfking on March 10, 2020, 02:34:27 PM
Lol, the new House of Lords song is one of the worst things I've ever heard.  Fucking diabolical.

Yikes lol. Assuming you wont be picking this one up  :lol

Not based on that.
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Post by: MinistroRaven on March 20, 2020, 08:24:09 AM
https://www.sonicperspectives.com/news/frontiers-records-announces-reschedule-of-upcoming-album-releases
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Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2020, 05:33:48 PM
Damn, gotta wait an extra month for the Magnus Karlsson.

new Vega coming too, nice.
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Post by: bl5150 on March 20, 2020, 06:22:15 PM
Alessandro has been in isolation for 4 weeks and written 55 albums that will be released in the second half of the year.
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Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2020, 06:54:18 PM
Alessandro has been in isolation for 4 weeks and written 55 albums that will be released in the second half of the year.

No doubt, I was thinking the same thing.  A lot of this down time will no doubt be utilised by a lot of artists to release albums since they are losing money on touring.  I think well see a majot spike in releases in 2021.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 25, 2020, 01:34:40 PM
Anyone listened to the new Gotthard? I really liked it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 25, 2020, 01:37:53 PM
I don't know a lot of Gotthard, but I'll give this a twirl.
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Post by: jjrock88 on March 25, 2020, 02:20:22 PM
Never ever heard of Gotthard, but just checked out their video Missteria.  A combination of a classic rock sound along with bosomy women in the video = my approval.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 25, 2020, 03:02:08 PM
I don't know a lot of Gotthard, but I'll give this a twirl.

Im not an expert on them. Earlier albums I remember thinking were very Whitesnake-y. Lip service and Domino Effect were excellent. Singer died in unlucky circumstances, hit by a truck I believe. I didnt bother with their stuff after this but gave this one a go on a whim.
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Post by: wolfking on March 25, 2020, 03:28:32 PM
Never eally checked them out, but the songs I did, never really grabbed me.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 26, 2020, 02:33:36 PM
They do have a pretty generic sound.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 28, 2020, 04:31:57 AM
https://youtu.be/HQO_30t2_e8

New One Desire vid. Bloody hell, I like it. I have to say I wrote them off the first time I heard them but I may need to investigate further.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 28, 2020, 04:37:35 AM
https://youtu.be/HQO_30t2_e8

New One Desire vid. Bloody hell, I like it. I have to say I wrote them off the first time I heard them but I may need to investigate further.

Yeah, This came up on my Spotify new release list yesterday, and I really liked it. Then I looked at who it was, and I felt dirty.  :lol
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Post by: Lowdz on March 28, 2020, 09:57:33 AM
Me too. Tried Work of Art just in case but no, they were still shit 😀
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Post by: wolfking on March 28, 2020, 03:02:36 PM
Me too. Tried Work of Art just in case but no, they were still shit 😀

I love them and actually haven't checked their new one yet.
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Post by: Lowdz on March 29, 2020, 04:30:19 AM
Me too. Tried Work of Art just in case but no, they were still shit 😀

I love them and actually haven't checked their new one yet.

Its just too perfect,  shiny and nice for me.
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Post by: wolfking on March 29, 2020, 04:36:12 AM
Me too. Tried Work of Art just in case but no, they were still shit 😀

I love them and actually haven't checked their new one yet.

Its just too perfect,  shiny and nice for me.

Normally, I'd say the same, but these guys are an exception.  I've loved them since the first album but probably discovering them now they wouldn't float my boat.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 30, 2020, 01:27:15 PM
Anyone listened to the new Gotthard? I really liked it.

Spun it today.  Very much liked it.  Not sure it was purchase-worthy, but I'll squirrel it away on Spotify and listen to it every couple of years.
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Post by: wolfking on April 04, 2020, 12:59:35 AM
Really enjoying this Khymera.  Very good simple melodic rock.  Actually reminds me of years ago and the music that made me create this thread.
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Post by: TAC on April 04, 2020, 02:19:28 PM
A solid thread, for sure.
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Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2020, 04:08:26 AM
A solid thread, for sure.

Who said you could come in here?
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Post by: Lowdz on April 08, 2020, 04:32:36 PM
Played the Khmers today and really enjoyed it. I have to say that the melodic rock stuff Ive heard recently has been excellent. Id really fallen out of love with anything new in the genre, but Ive been pleasantly surprised.
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Post by: wolfking on April 08, 2020, 06:58:28 PM
Played the Khmers today and really enjoyed it. I have to say that the melodic rock stuff Ive heard recently has been excellent. Id really fallen out of love with anything new in the genre, but Ive been pleasantly surprised.

It's a great album mate.  A bit of fluff near the end but very good all round.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 08, 2020, 09:21:52 PM
I wasn't terribly enamoured with it.  There were a couple of keepers, but on the whole it didn't quite click with me.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 09, 2020, 05:51:44 AM
Maybe I'm just in an AOR mood these days.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 09, 2020, 08:28:58 AM
Maybe I'm just in an AOR mood these days.

Nah... it's probably me, cuz Kade liked it too (iirc).
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Post by: wolfking on April 09, 2020, 04:15:38 PM
Maybe I'm just in an AOR mood these days.

Nah... it's probably me, cuz Kade liked it too (iirc).

lol, only posted it two posts above Pauls.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 09, 2020, 07:59:13 PM
:lolpalm:  Jesus this has been a long week. Thank god its a 3-day weekend. I need a break.
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Post by: TAC on April 09, 2020, 08:40:16 PM
Maybe I'm just in an AOR mood these days.

Nah... it's probably me, cuz Kade liked it too (iirc).

lol, only posted it two posts above Pauls.

 :rollin

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Post by: wolfking on April 10, 2020, 02:12:04 PM
:lolpalm:  Jesus this has been a long week. Thank god its a 3-day weekend. I need a break.

Lol, enjoy your break mate.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 10, 2020, 02:42:26 PM
Four day weekend for me 😱😀
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on April 10, 2020, 03:00:26 PM
At The Movies - No Easy Way Out (Cover) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9O-wya_0N8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0hNJ34sg_ewysBhBOhAVHvNegDfvitSaPsW2t9-bGuERTlO_LrjZWlufg&app=desktop)

Featuring:
Bjrn Speed Strid- Lead Vocals, Backing Vocals
Chris Laney- Guitars, Backing Vocals
Allan Srensen- Drums
Morten Sandager- Keyboards
Pontus Egberg- Bass
Pontus Norgren- Solo guitar
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Post by: bl5150 on April 10, 2020, 03:54:48 PM
That's pretty cool...........loved that song as a young kid.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2020, 07:15:12 AM
Anyone else sample Confess / Burn 'em All?  Not sure if they are on Frontiers or not, but they could be.  Kinda on the heavy side of melodic rock.  I enjoyed it bigly.
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Post by: Bolsters on April 11, 2020, 07:31:01 AM
Street Symphonies Records, according to Spotify.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 11, 2020, 07:37:44 AM
Anyone else sample Confess / Burn 'em All?  Not sure if they are on Frontiers or not, but they could be.  Kinda on the heavy side of melodic rock.  I enjoyed it bigly.

Their previous album Haunters was right up there in my Best of 2017 podcast.  I haven't found time to check out their new one - or anything much else lately.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 11, 2020, 10:44:56 AM
Anyone else sample Confess / Burn 'em All?  Not sure if they are on Frontiers or not, but they could be.  Kinda on the heavy side of melodic rock.  I enjoyed it bigly.

Their previous album Haunters was right up there in my Best of 2017 podcast.  I haven't found time to check out their new one - or anything much else lately.

Ooohhh... thanks for the reminder.  I'll go back and check that one out.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 12, 2020, 03:52:31 AM
Anyone else sample Confess / Burn 'em All?  Not sure if they are on Frontiers or not, but they could be.  Kinda on the heavy side of melodic rock.  I enjoyed it bigly.

Their previous album Haunters was right up there in my Best of 2017 podcast.  I haven't found time to check out their new one - or anything much else lately.

You not on corona lockdown down there Brent?
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Post by: bl5150 on April 12, 2020, 09:42:31 PM
Anyone else sample Confess / Burn 'em All?  Not sure if they are on Frontiers or not, but they could be.  Kinda on the heavy side of melodic rock.  I enjoyed it bigly.

Their previous album Haunters was right up there in my Best of 2017 podcast.  I haven't found time to check out their new one - or anything much else lately.

You not on corona lockdown down there Brent?

I am locked away - just don't have any time.  You know all about my big financial disaster a few years back.  Well over the last 12 months I have been working around the clock building a little guitar teaching business.  Did everything myself..............website , marketing, teaching , enquiries/billing, support , etc.........   It was just starting to do well when the big Corona hit and now I have lost a third of the business and have worked 20 hrs a day , 7 days a week the last 3 weeks trying to move the business online , which has added around the clock tech support for people who are struggling to set up something like Zoom (most of em unfortunately) to my list of duties .  I spent most of Easter Sunday in bed with a migraine - the body is fighting back  :lol

So yeah..........not leaving the house but certainly no time (or headspace) to be listening to and enjoying music.
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Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2020, 03:53:21 AM
Anyone else sample Confess / Burn 'em All?  Not sure if they are on Frontiers or not, but they could be.  Kinda on the heavy side of melodic rock.  I enjoyed it bigly.

Their previous album Haunters was right up there in my Best of 2017 podcast.  I haven't found time to check out their new one - or anything much else lately.

You not on corona lockdown down there Brent?

I am locked away - just don't have any time.  You know all about my big financial disaster a few years back.  Well over the last 12 months I have been working around the clock building a little guitar teaching business.  Did everything myself..............website , marketing, teaching , enquiries/billing, support , etc.........   It was just starting to do well when the big Corona hit and now I have lost a third of the business and have worked 20 hrs a day , 7 days a week the last 3 weeks trying to move the business online , which has added around the clock tech support for people who are struggling to set up something like Zoom (most of em unfortunately) to my list of duties .  I spent most of Easter Sunday in bed with a migraine - the body is fighting back  :lol

So yeah..........not leaving the house but certainly no time (or headspace) to be listening to and enjoying music.

Wow mate, that's awesome.  Were you just doing it from home?  Did you have a decent following going?  I might have to look into this Zoom stuff and we can jam together haha.  Do I get a discount on lessons?

Awful timing for you with all this shit though mate.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 13, 2020, 04:11:49 AM
Have you got back into playing then? Or are you just organising it? I hope you can discover the love of playing again. Im shit but still enjoy making a racket 😀🤘

Hope the business goes well. Im back at work tomorrow after the long weekend. My boss asked last week if I would volunteer to work on the death ward (thats how she put it - she needs to work on her sales pitch), for corona patients in the psychiatric hospital. 🤔😳. My youngest boy has anaemia so I declined. If I was single, I probably would.
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Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2020, 04:17:52 AM
Have you got back into playing then? Or are you just organising it? I hope you can discover the love of playing again. Im shit but still enjoy making a racket 😀🤘

Hope the business goes well. Im back at work tomorrow after the long weekend. My boss asked last week if I would volunteer to work on the death ward (thats how she put it - she needs to work on her sales pitch), for corona patients in the psychiatric hospital. 🤔😳. My youngest boy has anaemia so I declined. If I was single, I probably would.

What a frightening and eye opening experience that would be. 

So we're starting a band then, let's go!
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 13, 2020, 06:02:00 AM
damn Brent... you just can't catch a break!   :-\  :sadpanda:

Hope moving it online puts you back on a path to success.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2020, 06:06:19 AM
Wow mate, that's awesome.  Were you just doing it from home?  Did you have a decent following going?  I might have to look into this Zoom stuff and we can jam together haha.  Do I get a discount on lessons?

Awful timing for you with all this shit though mate.

A bit of both - some at home (the most profitable) but had also organised a commercial space as parents aren't so happy to drop kids off at someone's house like back in the day.  Having said that though I tend to attract more adults than kids , as we take it more seriously than "have some fun playing songs etc....." And a commercial location adds "cred" and allows you to have a Google My Business listings etc.............

Like most things I have to be a perfectionist so I learned SEO back to front and had my website ranking tops for guitar lessons in most areas of interest.  To start over again online is a massive pain in the ass but I guess after the massive hit I now have a much bigger potential market if I get my shit together.

No worries about a lack of teaching material in the vaults............as you guys know  :lol


Have you got back into playing then? Or are you just organising it? I hope you can discover the love of playing again. Im shit but still enjoy making a racket 😀🤘



A year or so back when everything was basically hopeless financially (still is really.......)-  I thought to myself " if I am going to bounce back again the only way I am going to find the energy is if it's something I can enjoy."   So I decided that I could work the huge hours if a side benefit was being something like the guitarist I know I can be.

Funnily enough I rarely get time to pick it up outside of lessons lol.

My theory knowledge is at an all time high , but my chops................well in a 2020 context I think I am still a pretty decent player and worked my butt off to build myself back up after a couple of decades of barely touching a guitar.  But in my mind (as an 80's child) I still have a looooooong way to go before I am anywhere near happy with my playing.  I haven't come across a student yet who is clearly better than me , so that's the main thing  :lol

damn Brent... you just can't catch a break!   :-\  :sadpanda:

Hope moving it online puts you back on a path to success.

Thanks mate.
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Post by: Lowdz on April 13, 2020, 06:18:00 AM
Glad to hear that Brent . Wish Id taken lessons back in the day.
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Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2020, 06:59:16 PM
Good luck to you Brent.  Since you're back into it, will definitely have to have a jam in the future somehow.  Could even do a Frontiers and record and write music and send to each other and create an album.   ;D

I find it surprising that lessons are still a thing though with youtube and the internet these days but if you are mostly getting adults, that would probably explain that.  The amount of free material out there these days, I would think you'd really have to know your stuff to keep people paying and coming back.

Theory is something I always wanted to learn more of.  I know most my scales and whatnot, but one thing I always wanted to really learn more of is modes.  I know the basics but always struggled learning each one, their relative key/scale and putting it into practice.  Jazz fusion was always something I wanted to learn, e.g. Holdsworth and Gambale.  By the time I got really good and wanted to explore, I got full time work and it was put on the backburner.  I'd love to be able to play that style as well as I play the basic stuff.
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Post by: TAC on April 13, 2020, 07:01:29 PM
We need to do a DTF Zoom session.
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Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2020, 07:20:32 PM
We need to do a DTF Zoom session.

I have no idea how Zoom works or where to begin.
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Post by: TAC on April 13, 2020, 07:26:19 PM
We need to do a DTF Zoom session.

I have no idea how Zoom works or where to begin.

You think I do? :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2020, 07:30:19 PM
Oh no  :lol
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Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2020, 07:35:15 PM
We need to do a DTF Zoom session.

I have no idea how Zoom works or where to begin.

You think I do? :lol

I was gonna say but....  :lol
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Post by: TAC on April 13, 2020, 07:36:33 PM
 :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2020, 07:38:56 PM
Good luck to you Brent.  Since you're back into it, will definitely have to have a jam in the future somehow.  Could even do a Frontiers and record and write music and send to each other and create an album.   ;D

I find it surprising that lessons are still a thing though with youtube and the internet these days but if you are mostly getting adults, that would probably explain that.  The amount of free material out there these days, I would think you'd really have to know your stuff to keep people paying and coming back.

Theory is something I always wanted to learn more of.  I know most my scales and whatnot, but one thing I always wanted to really learn more of is modes.  I know the basics but always struggled learning each one, their relative key/scale and putting it into practice.  Jazz fusion was always something I wanted to learn, e.g. Holdsworth and Gambale.  By the time I got really good and wanted to explore, I got full time work and it was put on the backburner.  I'd love to be able to play that style as well as I play the basic stuff.

I will get Devicio on the phone to produce  :biggrin:

As far as lessons being a thing .............the young kids are not capable of teaching themselves on YT and the parents value the interaction with a teacher.  I prefer adults as I don't have to deal with the wandering eyes ........adults are there because they want to be there. 

Music is huge in schools - ukulele has taken over as the biggest selling instrument in the country for that reason.  And the older people who try to teach themselves come to me with terrible technique that can taken months to correct. Beginners require constant feedback on their hand position/posture.   I think you need to be an intermediate to have a hope of finding (and knowing) what you need on the internet as it is so overwhelming.  And I know as a perfectionist that has tracked down all the best material on the planet relevant to what I want to learn.......it takes forever , even when you know what you are looking for.
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 13, 2020, 07:43:27 PM
Cacophony would have to step aside if Brent and Wolf joined forces  :metal
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Post by: TAC on April 13, 2020, 07:48:05 PM
I would definitely order a copy of Zoom For Dummies for that!
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Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2020, 08:13:45 PM
Cacophony would have to step aside if Brent and Wolf joined forces  :metal

Woah, let's not get crazy here.  :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 13, 2020, 08:26:48 PM
Rock n Roll Crazy Nights  :metal :metal
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Post by: TAC on April 13, 2020, 08:27:43 PM
You are the hero tonight :metal :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on April 13, 2020, 11:55:48 PM
Hey Hey Hey  :metal :metal
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Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2020, 02:37:54 AM
Damn spell check............should be Lock n Loll Clazy Nights
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Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 05:14:47 AM
Good luck to you Brent.  Since you're back into it, will definitely have to have a jam in the future somehow.  Could even do a Frontiers and record and write music and send to each other and create an album.   ;D

I find it surprising that lessons are still a thing though with youtube and the internet these days but if you are mostly getting adults, that would probably explain that.  The amount of free material out there these days, I would think you'd really have to know your stuff to keep people paying and coming back.

Theory is something I always wanted to learn more of.  I know most my scales and whatnot, but one thing I always wanted to really learn more of is modes.  I know the basics but always struggled learning each one, their relative key/scale and putting it into practice.  Jazz fusion was always something I wanted to learn, e.g. Holdsworth and Gambale.  By the time I got really good and wanted to explore, I got full time work and it was put on the backburner.  I'd love to be able to play that style as well as I play the basic stuff.

I will get Devicio on the phone to produce  :biggrin:

As far as lessons being a thing .............the young kids are not capable of teaching themselves on YT and the parents value the interaction with a teacher.  I prefer adults as I don't have to deal with the wandering eyes ........adults are there because they want to be there. 

Music is huge in schools - ukulele has taken over as the biggest selling instrument in the country for that reason.  And the older people who try to teach themselves come to me with terrible technique that can taken months to correct. Beginners require constant feedback on their hand position/posture.   I think you need to be an intermediate to have a hope of finding (and knowing) what you need on the internet as it is so overwhelming.  And I know as a perfectionist that has tracked down all the best material on the planet relevant to what I want to learn.......it takes forever , even when you know what you are looking for.

Yeah I guess.  It's been 15 years since I was teaching but I know what you are saying.  I hated teaching kids because they never wanted to be there most of the time.

I saw adults with bad technique too.  Was almost impossible to change it.  I hated teaching and even though I'm pretty good, I just never felt good enough to teach people how to play.  Maybe things would be different now.

I never would have guessed that the ukelele would be the biggest selling instrument right now lol.
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Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 05:21:46 AM
Found your website.  Nice name.  Was looking for some vids but to no avail haha.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2020, 05:25:20 AM
Well ukulele has taken over from the recorder which has to be an improvement  :D



(https://i.postimg.cc/9QCVgF5g/recorder.jpg)
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Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 05:28:54 AM
Berklee hey?  Was that online courses or did you go there Brent? 

How is your fusion stylings and usage of modes Brent? 

I really should study more.
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Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2020, 05:36:44 AM
Berklee hey?  Was that online courses or did you go there Brent? 

How is your fusion stylings and usage of modes Brent? 

I really should study more.

Didn't go there , no.  Just some stuff through Berklee Online.   Even though I kept my theory knowledge up and did teaching here and there I really haven't got my chops back up to the level I was in my late teens.  At this point my knowledge of modes etc... is at a higher plateau than my actual playing I reckon.

Did I send you instructional material or just songbooks when I did that big share?   If there's anything you need I probably have it .

Funnily enough when you run a one man teaching business you hardly have time to do any playing for yourself.  :-\
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Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 05:52:05 AM
I think they were all song books but I'll double check.  Not sure if there were any instructional books.  I just never had the discipline to keep going with the theory stuff.  I did level 6 or 7 music exam but I hated it and just quit theory all together.  It's bitten me on the ass now if I ever wanted to get back into teaching, especially modes.  My idea of modes is 'oh E Dorian, just raise the 6th and off you go' lol.  Listen to some Criss Oliva, that'll do.

For what you are doing, you don't really need your chops at the highest level though mate.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2020, 06:07:21 AM
Yeah you're right............but I am a bit of a perfectionist , which is why I barely picked it up for decades.   Picking up a guitar and realising I couldn't do a fraction of what I used to drove me nuts and I just stuck with teaching a few beginners here and there but not playing myself.   I regretted stopping being serious about it, but you can probably understand the context.   I graduated school in 1991 shredding it up in my VCE exams and loving my music and then Nirvana hit and the whole scene I loved was decimated in a matter of weeks and I couldn't see any hope of a career in music , as I wasn't interested in playing grunge or wedding bands.

This idea of the guitar business was partly about giving myself the motivation to get half decent again.  We've been going 12 months and I still haven't had a student who has felt too advanced , but then again most students are beginners and don't last more than 1-3 years.  It's a damn hard instrument and taking steps from beginner to intermediate and advanced are beyond most people.

I know some teachers who refuse to teach beginners but I actually prefer it for some reason.



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Post by: Lowdz on April 14, 2020, 05:02:11 PM
I learned my modes back in the day but never had the knowledge or ear to use them properly. My chops are gone, along with my calluses 😀. I only get a few minutes a day, if that these days.

I try to play some fusiony stuff to backing tracks- sometimes its ok, other times it sucks. And I have no muscle memory at all so Learning songs is a nightmare. Im keen though. 😀

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Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 06:56:36 PM
Yeah you're right............but I am a bit of a perfectionist , which is why I barely picked it up for decades.   Picking up a guitar and realising I couldn't do a fraction of what I used to drove me nuts and I just stuck with teaching a few beginners here and there but not playing myself.   I regretted stopping being serious about it, but you can probably understand the context.   I graduated school in 1991 shredding it up in my VCE exams and loving my music and then Nirvana hit and the whole scene I loved was decimated in a matter of weeks and I couldn't see any hope of a career in music , as I wasn't interested in playing grunge or wedding bands.

This idea of the guitar business was partly about giving myself the motivation to get half decent again.  We've been going 12 months and I still haven't had a student who has felt too advanced , but then again most students are beginners and don't last more than 1-3 years.  It's a damn hard instrument and taking steps from beginner to intermediate and advanced are beyond most people.

I know some teachers who refuse to teach beginners but I actually prefer it for some reason.

I would imagine the time you were playing and the style was the big thing with the shredders.  The grunge movement at that point definitely would have left a bitter taste.  It's hard even today to reall see anything worth while doing career wise with the guitar.  Teaching is about it.  Cover bands seemed like a dying breed before, and who knows now how many will return to steady gigs when all this is over.

If I had the time I'd love to buy some proper equipment and put more time in some youtube covers and see how that goes, but so many people doing it, you have to have really good meaningful content.  Making money would be tough but some do it. 

Pretty sure you've pimped him before but been watching a lot of Gustavo Guerra on youtube.  Fuck, he's amazing.  Wish there were english subtitles on his vids though.

I also when I was teaching was shit scared of someone coming in better than me wanting to learn or even people wanting to learn as you mentioned on your site acoustic fingerpick stuff.  Nah, find someone else to teach that shit haha.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2020, 07:08:33 PM
I have an idea on how to take this business to the next level but I am not sure if I have the time (or the desire to put myself out there) to do it. 

In a private guitar teaching practice , the ONLY way to make serious money is to teach groups.  Unfortunately that just isn't me.  I teach a couple of father/son combos etc..........but I just don't have it in me to discipline a bunch of misbehaving kids in a classroom setting.    The other way to do is to run what they call 20/20/20 lessons where you have "stations" -  one child with you , one practicing some exercises and another on some gamified learning on an iPad.   I played around with that concept too but again..........it's just not me and people in Australia are not as accepting of group lessons as they are in the US.  The other major issue is you set up a group program and you have everyone wanting their own times etc.............and you end up with a bunch of people in odd time slots paying the lower rate and getting private lessons.  So for now , I am just plodding along with private lessons.  But you will never make any decent money doing that .  I reckon I make about $5/hr when you add up the time I put into the business and take out expenses . So if the business pays me even a token wage it is a loss making business. People don't realise the amount of preparation, tech etc.............involved - all they see is the minutes they are with you.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 07:11:49 PM
I learned my modes back in the day but never had the knowledge or ear to use them properly. My chops are gone, along with my calluses . I only get a few minutes a day, if that these days.

I try to play some fusiony stuff to backing tracks- sometimes it’s ok, other times it sucks. And I have no muscle memory at all so Learning songs is a nightmare. I’m keen though.

I'm fine with learning the modes and the shapes and makeups, but it's more how to use them properly over what chords and in what situations.  Saying that, learning their relative keys is tricky and something I never fully memorized.

I think over the years playing mostly metal I fell into the trap of just leaning the basics and playing along with the specific key, then using my ear to add passing notes and whatnot to make things interesting.  You'd cover major, minor, harmonic nimor, some diminished, blues, pentatonic, even phrygian and phrygian dominant with metal and they are relatively easy to use knowing the style, but I fell into that trap and learning the basics and not really studying chords, and exploring using scales and modes effectively over those specific chords.  I think that's where the jazz stuff comes in where they play more over the chords progressions as opposed to a set key.  That line of thinking makes you look at the fretboard in a totally different way.

The basic knowledge I have would be following metal guys, like I said you can look at Criss Oliva and someone like Chris Holmes who like the Dorian mode, even though they probably aren't using them properly over the chords progressions they are using.

I guess I should go back and study more Satch and Vai.  It's funny, my exams when I did my gradings I played Circles for one, Crystal Planet for another and Love Thing for another.  Nailed them but it was only years later that I understood what was going on.  Even Crystal Planet has some cool different stuff in that solo.  Probably should start with Lydian and listen learn Flying in a Blue Dream lol.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 14, 2020, 07:14:41 PM
I'm going to run the above post through my google translator. :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2020, 07:16:05 PM
When did you discover Google?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 07:18:41 PM
I have an idea on how to take this business to the next level but I am not sure if I have the time (or the desire to put myself out there) to do it. 

In a private guitar teaching practice , the ONLY way to make serious money is to teach groups.  Unfortunately that just isn't me.  I teach a couple of father/son combos etc..........but I just don't have it in me to discipline a bunch of misbehaving kids in a classroom setting.    The other way to do is to run what they call 20/20/20 lessons where you have "stations" -  one child with you , one practicing some exercises and another on some gamified learning on an iPad.   I played around with that concept too but again..........it's just not me and people in Australia are not as accepting of group lessons as they are in the US.  The other major issue is you set up a group program and you have everyone wanting their own times etc.............and you end up with a bunch of people in odd time slots paying the lower rate and getting private lessons.  So for now , I am just plodding along with private lessons.  But you will never make any decent money doing that .  I reckon I make about $5/hr when you add up the time I put into the business and take out expenses . So if the business pays me even a token wage it is a loss making business. People don't realise the amount of preparation, tech etc.............involved - all they see is the minutes they are with you.

I don't like the 20/20/20 thing.  Definitely don't think that would work here.  I'd be the same.  Wouldn't have the want or confidence really to put myself out there.  The problem is, you would have been making more as you grew but this bastard pandemic is something yeah you didn't need.

I thought about going back to uni and studying to be a school teacher, but couldn't be assed and again the theory.  When I was teaching it was in a music shop and was a self contractor for the teaching (worked there as an employee too) and got $11 per half hour class before taking your tax out so was okay, but you'd then rely on everyone turning up to make $80 for an afternoon.  I despised it by the end, that was 15 years ago though.

I know you keep saying your chops are down but have you looked into doing some vids or covers and putting them out there to show what you can do?  Adding some vids to your page or facebook or whatever could help during these times at the moment.
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Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 07:21:31 PM
I'm going to run the above post through my google translator. :lol

I'm thinking of making a music theory discussion thread out of all this and it will be a no Tim allowed thread lol.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 14, 2020, 07:42:34 PM
It might actually make more sense to me than the damn exercise thread. :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 08:25:16 PM
It might actually make more sense to me than the damn exercise thread. :lol

 :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2020, 08:28:13 PM
Just for Tim .................Kade is now making a Music Theory Exercises thread  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 14, 2020, 08:30:08 PM
Just for Tim .................Kade is now making a Music Theory Exercises thread  :metal

Death by theory.

One theory the first minute. Two the second minute....
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 08:31:32 PM
Just for Tim .................Kade is now making a Music Theory Exercises thread  :metal

Day one introduction;

Bodyweight squats while learning and memorising all seven modes of the major scale at the same time.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 14, 2020, 08:34:37 PM
Can I just settle on:

a masterbation video of me while I was watching porn. 

That'd be a lot more attainable.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2020, 08:35:43 PM
Now we know why Kade's so good at guitar...........super strong hands after all those reps.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 14, 2020, 08:37:32 PM
Putting the "solid" back in this thread.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2020, 08:39:04 PM
This is developing like one of our roulette threads  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 14, 2020, 08:40:07 PM
Good times!! :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 08:51:00 PM
Can I just settle on:

a masterbation video of me while I was watching porn. 

That'd be a lot more attainable.

All you have to do is just ask mate.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 14, 2020, 08:54:02 PM
Heading back out of the thread about now... :lol


Let me know when you're discussing lame music again. ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on April 14, 2020, 09:08:36 PM
Heading back out of the thread about now... :lol


Let me know when you're discussing lame music again. ;D

Well, it is the growlie round with Indi.  Just head back over here. .
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2020, 09:25:20 PM
Heading back out of the thread about now... :lol


Let me know when you're discussing lame music again. ;D

Well, it is the growlie round with Indi.  Just head back over here. .

O rly?  Might pop in and say hello and have a cuppa.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on April 15, 2020, 08:29:59 AM
Aw you guys crack me up. Needed that - today has been a shitty shift  >:(
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on April 23, 2020, 12:56:18 PM
Ahh yes!

At The Movies - St Elmos Fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUOB5Mjq3P4&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3o7cqCJAS7UjHwmGQCrJtCb4YOsYNLMGiPEQX_8u0AdeUb03FAp7OX8vw)

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Post by: Grappler on April 23, 2020, 01:20:12 PM
That is killer, though Bjorn sounds so autotuned on the chorus.  He kills it on the rest of the song though!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2020, 04:38:48 AM
Trying to catch up on some releases that have slipped by.  The Riot thread has been keeping me busy so time to look back.

Halfway through the latest H.E.A.T. and hot damn, these guys listened to Address The Nation before writing this one.  I didn't even listen to the last one cause the song released were shit but this is old school.  Well done, very good.  Some catchy shit here and strong performances and sound.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on April 26, 2020, 08:33:14 AM
Trying to catch up on some releases that have slipped by.  The Riot thread has been keeping me busy so time to look back.

Halfway through the latest H.E.A.T. and hot damn, these guys listened to Address The Nation before writing this one.  I didn't even listen to the last one cause the song released were shit but this is old school.  Well done, very good.  Some catchy shit here and strong performances and sound.

Yeah, back on form with this one. You didnt miss anything with the last one.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2020, 01:35:11 PM
Trying to catch up on some releases that have slipped by.  The Riot thread has been keeping me busy so time to look back.

Halfway through the latest H.E.A.T. and hot damn, these guys listened to Address The Nation before writing this one.  I didn't even listen to the last one cause the song released were shit but this is old school.  Well done, very good.  Some catchy shit here and strong performances and sound.

Yeah, back on form with this one. You didnt miss anything with the last one.

That's what I thought.  I won't bother going back and checking it then.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 26, 2020, 03:05:10 PM
Trying to catch up on some releases that have slipped by.  The Riot thread has been keeping me busy so time to look back.

Halfway through the latest H.E.A.T. and hot damn, these guys listened to Address The Nation before writing this one.  I didn't even listen to the last one cause the song released were shit but this is old school.  Well done, very good.  Some catchy shit here and strong performances and sound.

Yeah, back on form with this one. You didnt miss anything with the last one.

That's what I thought.  I won't bother going back and checking it then.

I heard they were changing the name of the band to L.U.K.E.W.A.R.M.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2020, 08:55:21 PM
Since Tim has graced us with his presence, I am halfway through the Work of Art from like December last year when it came out.  They've gone softer again (if that was somehow possible) almost Toto like, but it's pretty smooth.  Wasn't really expecting anything but it has some really nice old school 80's AOR things going on.  All the songs are the same but it's a nice listen.  Great guitar and vocals.  Right up Tim's alley, he'd love it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 26, 2020, 08:59:05 PM
Since Tim has graced us with his presence, I am halfway through the Work of Art from like December last year when it came out.  They've gone softer again (if that was somehow possible) almost Toto like, but it's pretty smooth.  Wasn't really expecting anything but it has some really nice old school 80's AOR things going on.  All the songs are the same but it's a nice listen.  Great guitar and vocals.  Right up Tim's alley, he'd love it.

Sounds awful. :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2020, 11:26:50 PM
Since Tim has graced us with his presence, I am halfway through the Work of Art from like December last year when it came out.  They've gone softer again (if that was somehow possible) almost Toto like, but it's pretty smooth.  Wasn't really expecting anything but it has some really nice old school 80's AOR things going on.  All the songs are the same but it's a nice listen.  Great guitar and vocals.  Right up Tim's alley, he'd love it.

Sounds awful. :lol

I thought of Michael when listening and wondered if he's knows them.  :lol

It's safe to say however that your assessment would be the same after listening too.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2020, 09:39:15 PM
Checked the Archon Angel.  I thought this was actually pretty decent.  It's a random regular Frontiers affair with what sounds like songs written by lots of different people and different players but there's still a bit of variety and some interesting songwriting IMO.  Some interesting guitar solos too at times.  Zak sounds great and the production was quite clear.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: ProfessorPeart on April 28, 2020, 10:29:47 PM
Checked the Archon Angel.  I thought this was actually pretty decent.  It's a random regular Frontiers affair with what sounds like songs written by lots of different people and different players but there's still a bit of variety and some interesting songwriting IMO.  Some interesting guitar solos too at times.  Zak sounds great and the production was quite clear.

The thing I found odd about that one is that Zak's wife is credited as a writer on every track. From there she shares credit with Lonobile, Agate and Mularoni in various pairings.

Otherwise, I found it to be an enjoyable listen.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2020, 11:14:26 PM
Checked the Archon Angel.  I thought this was actually pretty decent.  It's a random regular Frontiers affair with what sounds like songs written by lots of different people and different players but there's still a bit of variety and some interesting songwriting IMO.  Some interesting guitar solos too at times.  Zak sounds great and the production was quite clear.

The thing I found odd about that one is that Zak's wife is credited as a writer on every track. From there she shares credit with Lonobile, Agate and Mularoni in various pairings.

Otherwise, I found it to be an enjoyable listen.

Yeah, that is a bit odd actually.  maybe she wrote lyrics for him?

Maybe she wrote the Serpent specifically about Zak if you know what I mean lol.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on April 29, 2020, 02:22:53 AM
Checked the Archon Angel.  I thought this was actually pretty decent.  It's a random regular Frontiers affair with what sounds like songs written by lots of different people and different players but there's still a bit of variety and some interesting songwriting IMO.  Some interesting guitar solos too at times.  Zak sounds great and the production was quite clear.

The thing I found odd about that one is that Zak's wife is credited as a writer on every track. From there she shares credit with Lonobile, Agate and Mularoni in various pairings.

Otherwise, I found it to be an enjoyable listen.

Yeah, that is a bit odd actually.  maybe she wrote lyrics for him?

Maybe she wrote the Serpent specifically about Zak if you know what I mean lol.

 :blush :lol
I'm sure I read somewhere she wrote lyrics for this.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 29, 2020, 05:04:08 AM
I read it's a bit of a concept story.  Story seems a bit girly I guess.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on April 29, 2020, 06:46:23 AM
Well Wolf Hoffman's wife wrote for Accept, which might explain the lyrics to Love Child. :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on April 29, 2020, 02:48:51 PM
Well Wolf Hoffman's wife wrote for Accept, which might explain the lyrics to Love Child. :lol

Huh, I never knew that.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on April 30, 2020, 04:12:27 PM
Well Wolf Hoffman's wife wrote for Accept, which might explain the lyrics to Love Child. :lol

Huh, I never knew that.

I never knew that either.  And I always figured that the lyrics of Accept and Judas Priest were always written from a gay mans perspective.  I remember reading somewhere that Rob Halford stated that every Priest song had a gay reference at some point within the song.  Makes no difference to me because all Priest songs are awesome  :metal.  I thought I read something similar with Accept

Also any Accept discussion should be put into the Hard Rock thread (no activity since April 19th lol).
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2020, 02:29:55 AM
R.I.P  Brian Howe 

As a young guy the classic lineup of Bad Company passed me by - the version of the band that I knew was the Holy Water era and that guy had a really nice "melodic rock" voice.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on May 08, 2020, 03:20:09 AM
R.I.P  Brian Howe 

As a young guy the classic lineup of Bad Company passed me by - the version of the band that I knew was the Holy Water era and that guy had a really nice "melodic rock" voice.

Me too. Dangerous Age and Holy Water were excellent. What a great voice he had for that stuff. RIP.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on May 08, 2020, 05:03:55 AM
R.I.P  Brian Howe 

As a young guy the classic lineup of Bad Company passed me by - the version of the band that I knew was the Holy Water era and that guy had a really nice "melodic rock" voice.

Oh wow.  I don't really know anything about him but for some reason I have one of his later solo albums on Frontiers.  It had a couple of nice melodic rock songs.  Good voice.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on May 08, 2020, 07:50:23 AM
Some of his stuff if you're interested Kade


Bad Company : Holy Water https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh5NV-Lyzok
 
Ted Nugent : Tied Up In Love  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u-BRv-GiIQ   ........of course The Nuge made the whole video about himself :lol

White Spirit (1981 with Janick Gers): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxwxRSfUdi4&app=desktop



Totally off topic................but if I wasn't done with Within Temptation already , hearing their latest load of horrendously produced shite has sealed it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on May 28, 2020, 11:24:56 AM
At The Movies - The Power Of Love (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ke9WapcdCY&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR022YoXnmr2ayghrQmr80bytfwiNqFkYeD2E4kEXZ-cZuONx4WxOcZoje4)

 :flame:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on May 28, 2020, 04:21:11 PM
At The Movies - The Power Of Love (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ke9WapcdCY&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR022YoXnmr2ayghrQmr80bytfwiNqFkYeD2E4kEXZ-cZuONx4WxOcZoje4)

 :flame:

Jeez, these guys are cranking out the songs.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 12, 2020, 12:40:20 PM
At The Movies - The NeverEnding Story (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REXpzTtplZg)

Hitting my childhood self with this one.  :heart
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on June 12, 2020, 12:45:42 PM
Loved all those covers pretty much. Is there going to be an album or was this all just for shit n giggles?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on July 10, 2020, 07:40:00 PM
Hey, guess who's doing a 30 day bump of this thread?? :lol

This album came across my ticker today, and I must say, it is damn easy on the ears.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/pzjAEsYEJJOt5pWUAcUaRqedkcb9JtHD1nmIQpokD-f8sRl8NY4aJM_bGxk2yTN_IcRWbUlyd2C8uo1mHjIxbN34H-N0Si2clEsi8hO5QLQJeGA5w_arAbWjbxy90riEUwCtz0y7rAFYqMPnlUbUGa7koQ)

Apparently it's a Frontiers release.

Skip the second song, Boogeyman..It blows.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on July 10, 2020, 07:43:24 PM
Funny... I just added that to my 2020 'check it out' list yesterday.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on July 10, 2020, 07:46:48 PM
Listening now. It is damn pleasant.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2020, 09:52:12 PM
I watched the Boogeyman video last night and that has to be some of the worst lyrics I've ever heard.  Laughed so hard.

I wasn't keen on the first song released a while back but I love Mark Boals so I'll try it out.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 10, 2020, 09:56:48 PM
The new Freefall is as expected, very good and even though Magnus loves his formula, some quality songwriting.  Don't care much for the production at all though truthfully.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on July 11, 2020, 09:54:45 AM
Hey, guess who's doing a 30 day bump of this thread?? :lol

This album came across my ticker today, and I must say, it is damn easy on the ears.



I believe this to be Tim-speak for "new music - with clean vocals - that doesn't blow."  And yes, Boogeyman is absolutely atrocious.

Tim, give Striker / Alive in the Studio (https://open.spotify.com/album/7fN96vVJsgdpeHxG9YUENC?si=nwcGRYhiSmu8apG36c5EHw) a go.  Some of the background vox are cringe-worthy - that's what ya get for a live/undubbed performance - but otherwise it's really good (imo).
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on July 11, 2020, 06:23:22 PM
Hey, guess who's doing a 30 day bump of this thread?? :lol

This album came across my ticker today, and I must say, it is damn easy on the ears.



I believe this to be Tim-speak for "new music - with clean vocals - that doesn't blow." 

 :lol Yeah, pretty much.


I finally gave the Black Swan a dedicated listen, and I have to say, it really wasn't that good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on July 11, 2020, 07:24:02 PM

Tim, give Striker / Alive in the Studio (https://open.spotify.com/album/7fN96vVJsgdpeHxG9YUENC?si=nwcGRYhiSmu8apG36c5EHw) a go.  Some of the background vox are cringe-worthy - that's what ya get for a live/undubbed performance - but otherwise it's really good (imo).

That's excellent.

They sound like if Michael Schenker joined Anthrax.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 12, 2020, 05:01:31 AM
I know no one here likes Vega, but I've loved their sound since the first album and been following ever since.  The last one was a bit underwhelming but this new one turns the quality up again and reminds me a lot of Stereo Messiah/What the Hell era, which is great.  Really enjoying it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on July 12, 2020, 05:29:23 AM
It's next on the rotation this morning.  I'm just wrapping up Bloody Heels / Ignite the Sky.  As Tim would say, 'easy on the ears'.  This one is a keeper.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 12, 2020, 05:31:30 AM
The first few songs are more 80's hard rock, but the real melodic stuff opens up from around track 5 onwards.

Never heard Bloody Heels, will check them.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on July 12, 2020, 05:49:52 AM
The first few songs are more 80's hard rock, but the real melodic stuff opens up from around track 5 onwards.

Never heard Bloody Heels, will check them.

Were on a podcast (I keep saying that lately)  :lol   I think Striker may have been a podcast debut around here too..........or a roulette.........I dunno.   The good old days  ;D

If I can find the time to listen to about 500 albums I hopefully might get a rough best of 2018-2020 together at some point.  Must find some time to listen to music dammit!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 12, 2020, 06:04:06 AM
Your podcast made me check Strikers self titled album, really cool stuff.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on July 12, 2020, 06:30:00 AM
The first few songs are more 80's hard rock, but the real melodic stuff opens up from around track 5 onwards.

Never heard Bloody Heels, will check them.

Were on a podcast (I keep saying that lately)  :lol   I think Striker may have been a podcast debut around here too..........or a roulette.........I dunno.   The good old days  ;D

I absolutely remember that my intro to them was thru you.  Loved the tune/album you played, and have followed them ever since.   :tup

Vega ... that was a nice listen, but don't think it's going to make the cut of what I keep/go back to.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 12, 2020, 03:17:54 PM
I didn't expect it to truthfully.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on July 17, 2020, 05:11:44 AM
New Hell in the Club is pretty damn good. Album drops in September.

https://youtu.be/CY-fiyFQ9NY
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on July 24, 2020, 12:53:57 PM
Didn't know where to put this one.  It's not classic Hard Rock/Metal, but it's not Frontiers puff either.  Somewhere in between - and it's a Stryper cover.  I dug it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vQm4bkMTyg

Album comes out next month.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 02:13:38 PM
I think Soldiers Under Command is the best song in the entire Stryper discography.........this is a fantastic cover  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on July 24, 2020, 02:19:47 PM
Listening to the new Primal Fear.  I'm diggin this too.  Solid as solid gets.  I mean, it's nothing terribly ground-breaking, but it doesn't sound old, tired, or stale - as I had feared it might based on the first couple of singles.  Right up there with what I'd expect out of Primal Fear kicking ass.  :2metal:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 02:31:14 PM
Listening to the new Primal Fear.  I'm diggin this too.  Solid as solid gets.  I mean, it's nothing terribly ground-breaking, but it doesn't sound old, tired, or stale - as I had feared it might based on the first couple of singles.  Right up there with what I'd expect out of Primal Fear kicking ass.  :2metal:

Primal Fear is the same as Saxon.....everything is either awesome or at least "solid".
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on July 24, 2020, 02:33:24 PM
Didn't know where to put this one.  It's not classic Hard Rock/Metal, but it's not Frontiers puff either.  Somewhere in between - and it's a Stryper cover.  I dug it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vQm4bkMTyg

Album comes out next month.

Hell yes! That's the singer of Golden Resurrection and Narnia!

I AM IN!!!!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 02:41:00 PM
Didn't know where to put this one.  It's not classic Hard Rock/Metal, but it's not Frontiers puff either.  Somewhere in between - and it's a Stryper cover.  I dug it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vQm4bkMTyg

Album comes out next month.

That was a pretty damn good cover.  He's a great singer, but she can fuck off.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 02:42:33 PM
Listening to the new Primal Fear.  I'm diggin this too.  Solid as solid gets.  I mean, it's nothing terribly ground-breaking, but it doesn't sound old, tired, or stale - as I had feared it might based on the first couple of singles.  Right up there with what I'd expect out of Primal Fear kicking ass.  :2metal:

That's good.  The three singles have been pretty crap really for Primal Fear.  Glad there seems to be more going on in the album then.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on July 24, 2020, 02:44:09 PM
Didn't know where to put this one.  It's not classic Hard Rock/Metal, but it's not Frontiers puff either.  Somewhere in between - and it's a Stryper cover.  I dug it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vQm4bkMTyg

Album comes out next month.

Hell yes! That's the singer of Golden Resurrection and Narnia!

So it is.  @ Kade... the chick was definitely the weak point.  I thought the solo was a ripper.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on July 24, 2020, 02:52:59 PM
What's wrong with the girl, guys? She's barely there on the Stryper cover.
I watched the other video they had, and she's on that a lot more. I had no problem with her.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 02:56:17 PM
What's wrong with the girl, guys? She's barely there on the Stryper cover.
I watched the other video they had, and she's on that a lot more. I had no problem with her.

Probably just my issue with most female singers.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on July 24, 2020, 02:57:06 PM
What's wrong with the girl, guys? She's barely there on the Stryper cover.
I watched the other video they had, and she's on that a lot more. I had no problem with her.

Probably just my issue with most female singers.

They sing with their clothes on??
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 02:57:33 PM
What's wrong with the girl, guys? She's barely there on the Stryper cover.
I watched the other video they had, and she's on that a lot more. I had no problem with her.

Probably just my issue with most female singers.

They sing with their clothes on??

It certainly doesn't help.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on July 24, 2020, 03:02:03 PM
Wasn't so much that there was anything wrong, just that she was the weakest part of the song.  I don't think her being there really added anything - didn't make the song any better, or worse.  I haven't tried the other song of theirs yet.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 03:02:24 PM
Didn't know where to put this one.  It's not classic Hard Rock/Metal, but it's not Frontiers puff either.  Somewhere in between - and it's a Stryper cover.  I dug it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vQm4bkMTyg

Album comes out next month.

That was a pretty damn good cover.  He's a great singer, but she can fuck off.

If I could get a view of her hammers, I would give an opinion.  Besides that, Soldiers Under Command  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on July 24, 2020, 03:16:40 PM
Wasn't so much that there was anything wrong, just that she was the weakest part of the song.  I don't think her being there really added anything - didn't make the song any better, or worse.  I haven't tried the other song of theirs yet.

She has the same last name as the other dude, so maybe it's a husband/wife team.

I'm still in.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 03:17:31 PM
Wasn't so much that there was anything wrong, just that she was the weakest part of the song.  I don't think her being there really added anything - didn't make the song any better, or worse.  I haven't tried the other song of theirs yet.

She has the same last name as the other dude, so maybe it's a husband/wife team.

I'm still in.

A threesome you mean??
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on July 24, 2020, 03:42:05 PM
Well, not exactly. His job would be the camera man.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 04:03:08 PM
Well, not exactly. His job would be the camera man.

 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on July 24, 2020, 05:26:45 PM
Well, not exactly. His job would be the camera man.

Camera men need lovin too!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on July 24, 2020, 05:36:29 PM
OK, then you're invited. :P
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on July 24, 2020, 06:41:40 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on July 24, 2020, 06:48:03 PM
Primal Fear is the same as Saxon.....everything is either awesome or at least "solid".

I can follow that.

I've literally been listening to Biff Byford and Saxon since I was 12 or 13, so I do hold them as pretty spcial.

Musically, they are quite similar, especially over the last 10-15 years.


But my biggest issue is getting through an entire album with Ralf Sheepers. I just don't connect with his voice.


BUT...

Infinity is a freaking awesome song. Top 10 SOTY.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 06:49:48 PM
Primal Fear is the same as Saxon.....everything is either awesome or at least "solid".

I can follow that.

I've literally been listening to Biff Byford and Saxon since I was 12 or 13, so I do hold them as pretty spcial.

Musically, they are quite similar, especially over the last 10-15 years.


But my biggest issue is getting through an entire album with Ralf Sheepers. I just don't connect with his voice.


BUT...

Infinity is a freaking awesome song. Top 10 SOTY.

If I recall, you said before you arent the biggest Rob Halford fan.  Ralf is Rob 101 so that makes sense.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on July 24, 2020, 06:52:28 PM
Yeah, oddly, I've never been a huge Priest guy. I like them. A lot. But they've never been a favorite.
I do like Rob Halford a lot too.  I think he's totally cool.

But Ralf is just not a pleasurable sound to my ears for whatever reason.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 06:53:59 PM
Yeah, oddly, I've never been a huge Priest guy. I like them. A lot. But they've never been a favorite.
I do like Rob Halford a lot too.  I think he's totally cool.

But Ralf is just not a pleasurable sound to my ears for whatever reason.

Metal is Forever  :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 06:57:54 PM
And per Blabbermouth...............a Rob Halford action figure is arriving soon  :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 06:58:14 PM
Primal Fear is the same as Saxon.....everything is either awesome or at least "solid".

I can follow that.

I've literally been listening to Biff Byford and Saxon since I was 12 or 13, so I do hold them as pretty spcial.

Musically, they are quite similar, especially over the last 10-15 years.


But my biggest issue is getting through an entire album with Ralf Sheepers. I just don't connect with his voice.


BUT...

Infinity is a freaking awesome song. Top 10 SOTY.

I'll look forward to checking this PF out then.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on July 24, 2020, 07:00:01 PM
One of the radio shows I grew up with........the one decent local show.......he used to play Tyran Pace - Night Of The Wolves all the time.  I liked it and never had any issue with Ralf's voice.   

I have only seen the very commercial sounding single from the new Primal Fear (can't even remember the name).  I remember the big mama of a microphone Ralf was using though  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on July 24, 2020, 07:01:26 PM
Tyran Pace had some great tunes.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 24, 2020, 07:02:54 PM
One of the radio shows I grew up with........the one decent local show.......he used to play Tyran Pace - Night Of The Wolves all the time.  I liked it and never had any issue with Ralf's voice.   

I have only seen the very commercial sounding single from the new Primal Fear (can't even remember the name).  I remember the big mama of a microphone Ralf was using though  :lol

There was a new one posted last night that I check that had me rolling my eyes.  Their videos are fucking terrible too.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on July 24, 2020, 07:05:32 PM
One of the radio shows I grew up with........the one decent local show.......he used to play Tyran Pace - Night Of The Wolves all the time.  I liked it and never had any issue with Ralf's voice.   

I have only seen the very commercial sounding single from the new Primal Fear (can't even remember the name).  I remember the big mama of a microphone Ralf was using though  :lol

There was a new one posted last night that I check that had me rolling my eyes.  Their videos are fucking terrible too.

I looked at that video with the white background and thought yeah................typical Frontiers crap but then noticed it was Nuclear Blast  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on July 25, 2020, 05:49:42 AM
One of the radio shows I grew up with........the one decent local show.......he used to play Tyran Pace - Night Of The Wolves all the time.  I liked it and never had any issue with Ralf's voice.   

I have only seen the very commercial sounding single from the new Primal Fear (can't even remember the name).  I remember the big mama of a microphone Ralf was using though  :lol

There was a new one posted last night that I check that had me rolling my eyes.  Their videos are fucking terrible too.

I looked at that video with the white background and thought yeah................typical Frontiers crap but then noticed it was Nuclear Blast  :lol

Funny that.  The singles are more Frontiers than ever but yeah Nuclear Blast now lol.
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Post by: jingle.boy on August 04, 2020, 09:06:30 AM
Quote
Italian progressive metal masters DGM will release their long awaited 10th studio album, Tragic Separation on October 9, 2020. It follows the bands acclaimed release , The Passage from 2016.

DGM started writing new music in the spring of 2019, with the overall process taking almost one year. This was a longer writing process than normal for them since it was the bands desire to push themselves beyond any boundaries set by their previous work. Truly no small feat given the bands catalog. The end result is Tragic Separation, an album where the band ticks all the boxes of the Progressive Metal genre, but adds more and more of their own personal identity and approach.

Long-time fans need not worry as you can still find all the trademark elements of DGMs sound with sweeping choruses, technical passages, lightning fast fretwork, big vocals, and bombastic transitions. But the care and dedication to the songwriting emerges in phenomenal songs which carefully encompass everything that goes from traditional progressive metal to a more classic hard rock sound (even giving a nod to Kansas' sound in the title track). The playing is faultless as usual and the melodies are perfectly woven into killer guitars, epic keyboards, and pounding drums.

Not only are the songs presented here simply great music, but lyrically, Tragic Separation is a concept album told through the eyes of a protagonist about life and the paths we can go down between the choices we make, plus the subsequent consequences those choices bring to our lives. Among the doubts and second thoughts about the choices made, there is one that echoes in the protagonists soul: what if the answer for everything was the path itself? An unanswered question, which is another starting point for a new quest... another beginning.

Watch out for DGM, they are not only Italys finest progressive metal band, but an absolute astounding force to be reckoned with. The band will tour on the album as soon as conditions allow.

Tracklist:
1.  Flesh And Blood
2.  Surrender
3.  Fate
4.  Hope
5.  Tragic Separation
6.  Stranded
7.  Land Of Sorrow
8.  Silence
9.  Turn Back Time
10.        Curtain

Line-up:
Marco Basile Vox
Simone Mularoni Guitars
Andrea Arcangeli Bass
Emanuele Casali Keyboards
Fabio Costantino - Drums

New song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJhyycfUUf0

Sounds like DGM alright.  I dig it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on August 04, 2020, 06:46:34 PM
That's a good tune.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on August 04, 2020, 06:59:01 PM
Wow, 4 years since the last one.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on August 04, 2020, 07:04:59 PM
I skipped the last one oltogether.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on August 04, 2020, 08:46:54 PM
I skipped the last one oltogether.

I'm only a casual fan.  Only have 2 albums I think.  The last one was alright, nothing worth going out of the way for.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on August 04, 2020, 08:57:31 PM
The Passage (last album) was pretty solid.  Momentum and Frame are where it's at with DGM.  Different Shapes is pretty solid too.  That's all I have of them.  I had no clue they had 5 other studio albums!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 05, 2020, 02:25:50 AM
Haven't heard DGM that much but I really loved Ghost of Insanity. Their main vocalist blew me away especially during the 2nd verse. However someone pointed out how hilariously all over the place the lyrics are, I cannot unhear that now.  :lol

The new song is pretty good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2020, 04:55:05 AM
Haven't heard DGM that much but I really loved Ghost of Insanity. Their main vocalist blew me away especially during the 2nd verse. However someone pointed out how hilariously all over the place the lyrics are, I cannot unhear that now.  :lol

The new song is pretty good.

I don't know.  Tom owns that song if you ask me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on August 05, 2020, 05:05:10 AM
That new song was pretty nice.  Interesting clip too.  There's strong SX Iconoclast vibes in the intro too.

I know why they are one band I never fell in love with.  I find the singer pretty average.  Something about his voice.  Simon's solo sections are pretty samey too, but he still rips.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 05, 2020, 05:21:20 AM
Haven't heard DGM that much but I really loved Ghost of Insanity. Their main vocalist blew me away especially during the 2nd verse. However someone pointed out how hilariously all over the place the lyrics are, I cannot unhear that now.  :lol

The new song is pretty good.

I don't know.  Tom owns that song if you ask me.
Yea Toms voice really fits nice with the song but I already knew Tom would be great. The main singer was a surprise, atleast for me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on August 12, 2020, 06:04:49 AM
I nearly vomited a minute into this;

https://youtu.be/tPvsZpwh2a8

Pride of Lions.  Holy shit this sucks.  Toby needs to join me on my running challenge by the looks.  And a low talker must have asked him to wear that shirt.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on August 12, 2020, 06:18:25 AM
I clicked the video only to see what kind of shirt a low talker would recommend hoping to give me a clue as to what the hell a low talker is. :lol
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Post by: Podaar on August 12, 2020, 06:23:38 AM
Tim, watch Seinfeld episode "The Puffy Shirt." It will all be clear.
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-11-2018/e3kQ5L.gif)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on August 12, 2020, 06:34:34 AM
Jim Peterik has obviously run out of ideas .......pity his purple rinse hasn't run out -  Dame Edna eat your heart out.   Matching guitar too   :metal :facepalm:

He's a legend but it's all getting more and more corny.  Don't think I'll even bother with the album.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on August 12, 2020, 06:45:43 AM
I don't think I'll even bother with this video or song!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on August 12, 2020, 06:49:10 AM
A reaction video with Kade vomiting might get some views.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on August 12, 2020, 07:04:57 AM
Yes that would be awesome.


The song ratings would be in chunks.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on August 12, 2020, 09:38:44 AM
I nearly vomited a minute into this;

https://youtu.be/tPvsZpwh2a8

Pride of Lions.  Holy shit this sucks.  Toby needs to join me on my running challenge by the looks.  And a low talker must have asked him to wear that shirt.

But Kade, vomiting can sometimes be a good abdominal workout. Then you can make note of it in the exercise thread
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on August 12, 2020, 11:31:58 AM
That was pretty awful.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on August 12, 2020, 04:58:26 PM
I nearly vomited a minute into this;

https://youtu.be/tPvsZpwh2a8

Pride of Lions.  Holy shit this sucks.  Toby needs to join me on my running challenge by the looks.  And a low talker must have asked him to wear that shirt.

But Kade, vomiting can sometimes be a good abdominal workout. Then you can make note of it in the exercise thread

This man is a genius.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on August 12, 2020, 04:59:33 PM
Tim, watch Seinfeld episode "The Puffy Shirt." It will all be clear.
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-11-2018/e3kQ5L.gif)

This Tim, this.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on August 12, 2020, 05:01:42 PM
Jim Peterik has obviously run out of ideas .......pity his purple rinse hasn't run out -  Dame Edna eat your heart out.   Matching guitar too   :metal :facepalm:

He's a legend but it's all getting more and more corny.  Don't think I'll even bother with the album.

Dame Edna  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on August 12, 2020, 05:44:33 PM
Tim, watch Seinfeld episode "The Puffy Shirt." It will all be clear.
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-11-2018/e3kQ5L.gif)

This Tim, this.

Puffy f'n Shirt  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on August 12, 2020, 06:39:11 PM
Tim's reaction be like ...

(https://i.gifer.com/1pTT.gif)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on August 12, 2020, 06:44:12 PM
OK, so "low talker" was a Seinfeld reference. Got it. I thought is was an Australian term for a certain type of person.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on August 12, 2020, 07:05:27 PM
Tim have you not caught on by now that 99% of references you don't get are Seinfeld related lol

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on August 12, 2020, 07:06:38 PM
Tim have you not caught on by now that 99% of references you don't get are Seinfeld related lol


Wait...is that a Seinfeld reference??
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on August 12, 2020, 07:07:10 PM
 :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on August 12, 2020, 07:08:19 PM
Tim have you not caught on by now that 99% of references you don't get are Seinfeld related lol


Wait...is that a Seinfeld reference??

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DefenselessIndolentChanticleer-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on August 12, 2020, 07:09:21 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on August 12, 2020, 07:24:41 PM
If only Tim was a dentist.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on August 12, 2020, 07:30:29 PM
(https://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Jerry-Seinfeld-Doesnt-Care-For-Dentists-While-Flirting-With-Debra-Messing-On-Seinfeld.gif)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on August 12, 2020, 07:34:02 PM
hmm, impressive
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on August 12, 2020, 07:39:57 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/85/45/b6/8545b6b414ee14a985f4e5c436aef99a.gif)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on August 12, 2020, 07:44:46 PM
hmm, more impressive
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on August 12, 2020, 07:48:26 PM
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/l2JJsJQY6yj9HLaZW/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on August 12, 2020, 07:51:01 PM
Tim's back baby, pulp can move!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: TAC on August 12, 2020, 07:53:05 PM
 :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on August 12, 2020, 09:14:11 PM
(https://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Jerry-Seinfeld-Doesnt-Care-For-Dentists-While-Flirting-With-Debra-Messing-On-Seinfeld.gif)

Too funny... that episode was on just the other night.

".... not to mention the Jews and the Blacks".  :lolpalm:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on August 13, 2020, 06:30:01 AM
Oh wow, this is very impressive Tim......very impressive.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on August 25, 2020, 06:08:13 AM
http://bravewords.com/news/coheed-and-cambria-share-jessie-s-girl-2-feat-rick-springfield-music-video

Not sure how many of you visit the Coheed & Cambria page but this was posted there, but it deserves to be here due to the nature of the original.

I liked it. Damn, Rick must bathe in virgins' blood or something. The man never ages. I'd be interested in the concept of "sequels", depending on the songs of course.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2020, 06:22:15 AM
Supposedly H.E.A.T. and Crazy Lixx are touring OZ together in April/May - timing might be a bit ambitious but hopefully it comes off.  Reckon I would make an effort to see this one.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2020, 06:25:46 AM
Supposedly H.E.A.T. and Crazy Lixx are touring OZ together in April/May - timing might be a bit ambitious but hopefully it comes off.  Reckon I would make an effort to see this one.

Would be a good show.  Doubt they come up here though.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2020, 08:01:33 AM
Supposedly H.E.A.T. and Crazy Lixx are touring OZ together in April/May - timing might be a bit ambitious but hopefully it comes off.  Reckon I would make an effort to see this one.

Would be a good show.  Doubt they come up here though.

I always look for Brisbane now to see if you'll be  >:( >:(  :lol  and you're fine with this one.   Syd,Mel,Bris,Adel.

Question is whether any of them happen that early in 2021.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2020, 02:32:47 PM
Supposedly H.E.A.T. and Crazy Lixx are touring OZ together in April/May - timing might be a bit ambitious but hopefully it comes off.  Reckon I would make an effort to see this one.

Would be a good show.  Doubt they come up here though.

I always look for Brisbane now to see if you'll be  >:( >:(  :lol  and you're fine with this one.   Syd,Mel,Bris,Adel.

Question is whether any of them happen that early in 2021.

At least things are starting to ease slightly down there for you mate.  April isn't too far away but jeez you'd hope we'd be relatively back to some sort of normality again.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2020, 06:16:49 PM
Yeah our curfew just went from 8pm to 9pm and allowed 2 hrs outdoors for exercise with one other person  :metal   ;D   All the substantial easing is in country Victoria.....   My business likely won't re-open til December (people in the same room) , so that'll be around 10 months  :eek   

I am sure things will be far better by April - if we don't have it smashed by then we'll just be like everyone else as it won't be economically possible.  Open (with distancing guidelines) and hoping for the best.

What that means for having crowds in small clubs I dunno though - I reckon that sort of thing will be one of the very last , even after large outdoor sports arenas as it's so much more contagious indoors.

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2020, 06:44:57 PM
Yeah our curfew just went from 8pm to 9pm and allowed 2 hrs outdoors for exercise with one other person  :metal   ;D   All the substantial easing is in country Victoria.....   My business likely won't re-open til December (people in the same room) , so that'll be around 10 months  :eek   

I am sure things will be far better by April - if we don't have it smashed by then we'll just be like everyone else as it won't be economically possible.  Open (with distancing guidelines) and hoping for the best.

What that means for having crowds in small clubs I dunno though - I reckon that sort of thing will be one of the very last , even after large outdoor sports arenas as it's so much more contagious indoors.

Yeah, that would definitely be very last on the list. DT just postponed again as expected.  Don't see them coming anytime soon truthfully.   

I'm not keeping that close track but thought things were easing a little more than that.  Why even bother extending a curfew by an hour for fucks sake.  Talk about taking the piss.  You would think your sort of business would be able to start ealier than most as there would only be you, the student and maybe a parent?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2020, 06:48:40 PM
Yeah our curfew just went from 8pm to 9pm and allowed 2 hrs outdoors for exercise with one other person  :metal   ;D   All the substantial easing is in country Victoria.....   My business likely won't re-open til December (people in the same room) , so that'll be around 10 months  :eek   

I am sure things will be far better by April - if we don't have it smashed by then we'll just be like everyone else as it won't be economically possible.  Open (with distancing guidelines) and hoping for the best.

What that means for having crowds in small clubs I dunno though - I reckon that sort of thing will be one of the very last , even after large outdoor sports arenas as it's so much more contagious indoors.

Yeah, that would definitely be very last on the list. DT just postponed again as expected.  Don't see them coming anytime soon truthfully.   

I'm not keeping that close track but thought things were easing a little more than that.  Why even bother extending a curfew by an hour for fucks sake.  Talk about taking the piss.  You would think your sort of business would be able to start ealier than most as there would only be you, the student and maybe a parent?

Yes, you would think..............  where they get me is with the underlying rule that if you can continue to work from home you must.  So they can say "Well you've been running it online , so you must continue to do so."   Doesn't account for the fact that , far more so than in the US (from speaking to teachers over there) , people around here place a super high value on face to face , which means my numbers are down 50%.

Like many I have been working my ass off learning new tech/software and investigating ways to improve the online experience because long term I think people are gonna hate being in a room with masks on even more.

Why even bother extending a curfew by an hour for fucks sake.  Talk about taking the piss.

yep  :\
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2020, 07:02:37 PM
Yeah our curfew just went from 8pm to 9pm and allowed 2 hrs outdoors for exercise with one other person  :metal   ;D   All the substantial easing is in country Victoria.....   My business likely won't re-open til December (people in the same room) , so that'll be around 10 months  :eek   

I am sure things will be far better by April - if we don't have it smashed by then we'll just be like everyone else as it won't be economically possible.  Open (with distancing guidelines) and hoping for the best.

What that means for having crowds in small clubs I dunno though - I reckon that sort of thing will be one of the very last , even after large outdoor sports arenas as it's so much more contagious indoors.

Yeah, that would definitely be very last on the list. DT just postponed again as expected.  Don't see them coming anytime soon truthfully.   

I'm not keeping that close track but thought things were easing a little more than that.  Why even bother extending a curfew by an hour for fucks sake.  Talk about taking the piss.  You would think your sort of business would be able to start ealier than most as there would only be you, the student and maybe a parent?

Yes, you would think..............  where they get me is with the underlying rule that if you can continue to work from home you must.  So they can say "Well you've been running it online , so you must continue to do so."   Doesn't account for the fact that , far more so than in the US (from speaking to teachers over there) , people around here place a super high value on face to face , which means my numbers are down 50%.

Like many I have been working my ass off learning new tech/software and investigating ways to improve the online experience because long term I think people are gonna hate being in a room with masks on even more.

Why even bother extending a curfew by an hour for fucks sake.  Talk about taking the piss.

yep

True.  The face to face experience would be so undervalued in what you are doing, I'm not surprised it's down by that much.

I think in general people are getting more and more adverse to the whole contact thing.  Regardless, even up here where the risk is so low, the fear and habit has been engrained in a lot of us that people are avoiding contact where they can.  I get it though, it makes sense but you wonder if after all this is over if we are looking at a new way of life.  I can see people opting more for online stuff mate over face to face, but who knows.  If you were able to get the percentage of business you had before by going online it would be more cost beneficial for you anyway.  But you are in a tricky situation, feel for you.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2020, 07:13:14 PM
Yeah - I think this has fast tracked people's acceptance of online schooling and I have had a a few newbies join online this week . I know one very large school in the US has just decided they can't deal with the whole on/off thing and have gone 100% online permanently.  So it will become a thing - you just need to be ahead of the pack , which is why I have been slowly turning my teaching room at home into a mini video recording studio with switchers etc......to reduce the editing load and streamline things. This is all very new to me and the learning curve is immense.   One benefit I have is that most of my students are adults and they tend to be more able to pivot more quickly than the kids.   I have a longer term vision that involved online and this has all just fast tracked everything.......the real challenge is just to survive so it can be done.

Anyway...........hopefully I get to see H.E.A.T. in April  :metal
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Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2020, 07:47:01 PM
Sounds like getting ahead of the pack mate will be key.  Getting it right could even get other people interested that normally wouldn't take the plunge in going out and doing face to face lessons.

Share your setup when your done if you don't mind.  I want to get back into recording and maybe some more youtube vibs but haven't even looked into advances in equipment and whatnot yet.  Good luck to you.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 15, 2020, 08:11:48 PM
No worries..............if I produce something decent I will let you know the detail  :biggrin:   At the moment it's very early days with half the equipment (ordered weeks, if not months ago) still floating around out there in Australia Post land somewhere.  ::)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 15, 2020, 08:41:36 PM
No worries..............if I produce something decent I will let you know the detail  :biggrin:   At the moment it's very early days with half the equipment (ordered weeks, if not months ago) still floating around out there in Australia Post land somewhere.  ::)

lol yeah Australia Post.  Good luck mate, we're all backing you through this period.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on September 16, 2020, 03:40:34 AM
No worries..............if I produce something decent I will let you know the detail  :biggrin:   At the moment it's very early days with half the equipment (ordered weeks, if not months ago) still floating around out there in Australia Post land somewhere.  ::)

lol yeah Australia Post.  Good luck mate, we're all backing you through this period.

^ This.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 16, 2020, 04:25:00 AM
Yeah - I think this has fast tracked people's acceptance of online schooling and I have had a a few newbies join online this week . I know one very large school in the US has just decided they can't deal with the whole on/off thing and have gone 100% online permanently.  So it will become a thing - you just need to be ahead of the pack , which is why I have been slowly turning my teaching room at home into a mini video recording studio with switchers etc......to reduce the editing load and streamline things. This is all very new to me and the learning curve is immense.   One benefit I have is that most of my students are adults and they tend to be more able to pivot more quickly than the kids.   I have a longer term vision that involved online and this has all just fast tracked everything.......the real challenge is just to survive so it can be done.

Anyway...........hopefully I get to see H.E.A.T. in April  :metal
I work as a percussion teacher and in april-july we closed down and only did teaching online. I mean trying to hear what my drum students where playing through their mobile or laptop mic was just...  :facepalm:
We bought in a mic but that didn't help me hearing them better, it just didn't work so I pretty much gave them homework and recorded a bunch of video lessons instead and used the video call to talk to them. It worked alright in the end but damn, you really start to appreciate the human interaction in teaching.
After the summer we opened up again and it's such a relief, hopefully it stays that way.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on September 16, 2020, 04:31:25 AM
I hope they bring that package to the UK. I'd be up for that.

Covid rules can't be any more confusing down there than in the UK. If you want people to obey stuff it has to be simple and clear and over here it's anything but. Boris is a complete prick.

Latest one is no gatherings of more than 6 people. Unless you go shooting grouse (a toff "sport") that's ok. And you can go to a pub or restaurant where there can be ten groups of six all together. madness.

The local music bar where I've seen Geoff Tate, Alcatrazz, Uli Roth before lockdown has reopened for gigs with seats at tables only. I can't see this being financially viable for bigger gigs. So far it's just been local bands.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 16, 2020, 05:31:35 AM
Yeah - I think this has fast tracked people's acceptance of online schooling and I have had a a few newbies join online this week . I know one very large school in the US has just decided they can't deal with the whole on/off thing and have gone 100% online permanently.  So it will become a thing - you just need to be ahead of the pack , which is why I have been slowly turning my teaching room at home into a mini video recording studio with switchers etc......to reduce the editing load and streamline things. This is all very new to me and the learning curve is immense.   One benefit I have is that most of my students are adults and they tend to be more able to pivot more quickly than the kids.   I have a longer term vision that involved online and this has all just fast tracked everything.......the real challenge is just to survive so it can be done.

Anyway...........hopefully I get to see H.E.A.T. in April  :metal
I work as a percussion teacher and in april-july we closed down and only did teaching online. I mean trying to hear what my drum students where playing through their mobile or laptop mic was just...  :facepalm:
We bought in a mic but that didn't help me hearing them better, it just didn't work so I pretty much gave them homework and recorded a bunch of video lessons instead and used the video call to talk to them. It worked alright in the end but damn, you really start to appreciate the human interaction in teaching.
After the summer we opened up again and it's such a relief, hopefully it stays that way.

That would be frustrating.  When I was teaching slightly more advanced students, I found it beneficial to jam together in the same room and break down licks to show them and help the student with their improvising as they learn.  Would be hard to get that connection over the net.  It seems Brent has his techniques down though and sure he can counter those things the best way possible.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 16, 2020, 09:10:11 AM
Yeah - I think this has fast tracked people's acceptance of online schooling and I have had a a few newbies join online this week . I know one very large school in the US has just decided they can't deal with the whole on/off thing and have gone 100% online permanently.  So it will become a thing - you just need to be ahead of the pack , which is why I have been slowly turning my teaching room at home into a mini video recording studio with switchers etc......to reduce the editing load and streamline things. This is all very new to me and the learning curve is immense.   One benefit I have is that most of my students are adults and they tend to be more able to pivot more quickly than the kids.   I have a longer term vision that involved online and this has all just fast tracked everything.......the real challenge is just to survive so it can be done.

Anyway...........hopefully I get to see H.E.A.T. in April  :metal
I work as a percussion teacher and in april-july we closed down and only did teaching online. I mean trying to hear what my drum students where playing through their mobile or laptop mic was just...  :facepalm:
We bought in a mic but that didn't help me hearing them better, it just didn't work so I pretty much gave them homework and recorded a bunch of video lessons instead and used the video call to talk to them. It worked alright in the end but damn, you really start to appreciate the human interaction in teaching.
After the summer we opened up again and it's such a relief, hopefully it stays that way.

That would be frustrating.  When I was teaching slightly more advanced students, I found it beneficial to jam together in the same room and break down licks to show them and help the student with their improvising as they learn.  Would be hard to get that connection over the net.  It seems Brent has his techniques down though and sure he can counter those things the best way possible.
The human interaction is definitely a big thing I missed doing online but if I had a studio setup for the drums with a big screen infront of me the digital interaction from my POV would've been better but that wasn't possible financially. I'm not sure what's the solution to get better sound from the students POV without them paying alot of money for extra gear. It's not like you can demand a 10yo to buy a bunch of studio gear. Sure a better mic might help but even that is a big investment for some families. Then there's latency, we tried rehearsing with one of our orchestras on Zoom, yeaaa that didn't work.  :lol
Digital schooling is nice but if it's gonna be equivalent to let's say an ordinary instrument lesson then there's alot of things that has to be improved.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on September 16, 2020, 01:12:15 PM
I must admit that the lockdown hasnt affected me much at all. Im not a particularly social person and am quite happy at home.  A bit of a hermit really 😀
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on September 16, 2020, 07:20:53 PM
I must admit that the lockdown hasnt affected me much at all. Im not a particularly social person and am quite happy at home.  A bit of a hermit really 😀

Im with ya, brother.
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Post by: wolfking on September 17, 2020, 06:11:22 AM
Fuck people.  Just not DTF people.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Podaar on September 17, 2020, 06:13:39 AM
I was social distancing before it was cool.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 17, 2020, 06:38:15 AM
I was social distancing before it was cool.

We had a cool thing going, now it's mainstream.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on September 17, 2020, 07:33:08 AM
 :lol

I think we also might be the last group of people on earth who still listen to cds lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: bl5150 on September 17, 2020, 09:35:39 AM
I was social distancing before it was cool.

We had a cool thing going, now it's mainstream.

Down here the social animals are going bananas and people like me/us who have effectively been in lockdown half our lives barely notice the lack of social interaction.  :)

Good to see that our state is making news in the Washington Post

https://twitter.com/KathrynDiss/status/1306195415813980160/photo/1
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 17, 2020, 01:28:23 PM
It was quite funny watching it all happen and seeing people loosing their minds with restrictions yet I'm sitting here thinking nothing has really changed.   :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: Lowdz on September 18, 2020, 12:37:35 AM
True statement Kade. My partner has really struggled. Me, not so much.

The only downside for me has been when everyone was furloughed and could stay at home improving their guitar playing I had to go to work. And its been crazy busy.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 18, 2020, 12:45:44 AM
True statement Kade. My partner has really struggled. Me, not so much.

The only downside for me has been when everyone was furloughed and could stay at home improving their guitar playing I had to go to work. And its been crazy busy.

Same mate.  Wanted to spend the time just playing cause I've had no time in years but worked through the whole thing.  Literally nothing changed for me except I didn't have to put up with my moronic staff, so it was actually an improvement lol.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v. but.......we expected so much more?! :(
Post by: wolfking on September 19, 2020, 04:38:28 AM
New JSS song is shit.  Of course the whole album written by you know who......  ::)
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 19, 2020, 05:24:26 AM
New JSS song is shit.  Of course the whole album written by you know who......  ::)

Yeah... that came on my Spotify Release Radar playlist yesterday, and I was completely underwhelmed.  In fact, EVERYTHING there was a big bucket of 'meh'.
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Post by: wolfking on September 19, 2020, 05:31:32 AM
New JSS song is shit.  Of course the whole album written by you know who......  ::)

Yeah... that came on my Spotify Release Radar playlist yesterday, and I was completely underwhelmed.  In fact, EVERYTHING there was a big bucket of 'meh'.

Where the fuck is all the good new releases lately?
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Post by: jingle.boy on September 19, 2020, 05:55:29 AM
New JSS song is shit.  Of course the whole album written by you know who......  ::)

Yeah... that came on my Spotify Release Radar playlist yesterday, and I was completely underwhelmed.  In fact, EVERYTHING there was a big bucket of 'meh'.

Where the fuck is all the good new releases lately?

Can't say there's been too much that has wow'd me.  Andy James and Kiko Loureiro had some nice instrumental releases.  Vanishing Point was good.  I'm a bit of an Ian Parry fanboi, so his new release was enjoyable.  The only albums I've purchased were Petrucci and Pyramid Theorem

Some upcoming ones I'm looking forward to - Now or Never, DGM, Pyramaze, Black Fate, Lords of Black, and The Waymaker.

So far - just like the rest of the world in general - 2020 has been kinda shit for new music.
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Post by: wolfking on September 19, 2020, 01:58:44 PM
I forgot about the VP.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: HOF on October 04, 2020, 10:47:17 PM
I figured this was more or less the right place to post this. I have the first two Giant albums, mostly because Innocent Days and Im a Believer are really great songs. I havent ever followed them closely but thought Dan Huff was mostly just a producer now. Anyway, I had no idea these guys made another album until just now. Listening to III and Im just shocked how good Dan Huffs voice still sounded (it came out in 2001, so its almost 20 years old now). Anyway, it seems to pick up right where the others left off.
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Post by: wolfking on October 05, 2020, 04:45:29 AM
I figured this was more or less the right place to post this. I have the first two Giant albums, mostly because Innocent Days and Im a Believer are really great songs. I havent ever followed them closely but thought Dan Huff was mostly just a producer now. Anyway, I had no idea these guys made another album until just now. Listening to III and Im just shocked how good Dan Huffs voice still sounded (it came out in 2001, so its almost 20 years old now). Anyway, it seems to pick up right where the others left off.

They even have one called Promised Land which was released quite a few years back.  Some argue that it's Giant though as Huff isn't singing or playing guitar.  He might play a solo or two from memory and maybe did some writing, but he's replaced with Jon Roth and Terry Brock.  It's......solid.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 05, 2020, 04:50:38 AM
I figured this was more or less the right place to post this. I have the first two Giant albums, mostly because Innocent Days and Im a Believer are really great songs. I havent ever followed them closely but thought Dan Huff was mostly just a producer now. Anyway, I had no idea these guys made another album until just now. Listening to III and Im just shocked how good Dan Huffs voice still sounded (it came out in 2001, so its almost 20 years old now). Anyway, it seems to pick up right where the others left off.

III were leftovers and outtakes from the first two albums I believe, rather than a new album.

Promise Land didn't have Dann Huff, and it was poor.
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Post by: wolfking on October 05, 2020, 05:08:42 AM
I thought Promised Land had a few really nice songs in the first half of the album but going into the back half it was pretty average.
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Post by: bl5150 on October 05, 2020, 05:42:37 AM
I figured this was more or less the right place to post this. I have the first two Giant albums, mostly because Innocent Days and Im a Believer are really great songs. I havent ever followed them closely but thought Dan Huff was mostly just a producer now. Anyway, I had no idea these guys made another album until just now. Listening to III and Im just shocked how good Dan Huffs voice still sounded (it came out in 2001, so its almost 20 years old now). Anyway, it seems to pick up right where the others left off.

III were leftovers and outtakes from the first two albums I believe, rather than a new album.



Correctamundo.   Just shows you how damn good they were that an album of leftovers was of such quality. 
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Post by: Kwyjibo on October 05, 2020, 07:18:18 AM
I know that III exists but somehow never listened to it, but Last Of The Runaways is a killer melodic rock record and Time To Burn is also very good.  :metal :metal :metal

Saw them live in a small club on their first tour and it was great. At the end they ran out of songs to play but the crowd wanted more, so they played I'm A Believer twice.  :D

Shame they didn't release more records.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 05, 2020, 09:08:10 AM
I figured this was more or less the right place to post this. I have the first two Giant albums, mostly because Innocent Days and Im a Believer are really great songs. I havent ever followed them closely but thought Dan Huff was mostly just a producer now. Anyway, I had no idea these guys made another album until just now. Listening to III and Im just shocked how good Dan Huffs voice still sounded (it came out in 2001, so its almost 20 years old now). Anyway, it seems to pick up right where the others left off.

III were leftovers and outtakes from the first two albums I believe, rather than a new album.



Correctamundo.   Just shows you how damn good they were that an album of leftovers was of such quality.

I love the song Can't Let Go. The moment where Dann pauses in the breakdown gets me every time. Impact with silence (however brief).
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: HOF on October 05, 2020, 09:35:39 AM
I figured this was more or less the right place to post this. I have the first two Giant albums, mostly because Innocent Days and Im a Believer are really great songs. I havent ever followed them closely but thought Dan Huff was mostly just a producer now. Anyway, I had no idea these guys made another album until just now. Listening to III and Im just shocked how good Dan Huffs voice still sounded (it came out in 2001, so its almost 20 years old now). Anyway, it seems to pick up right where the others left off.

III were leftovers and outtakes from the first two albums I believe, rather than a new album.

Promise Land didn't have Dann Huff, and it was poor.

Ah, so they they werent actually re-recorded in 2001? That would explain why Huff (and the whole band really) sounds so much like he did in the late 80s.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 13, 2020, 04:08:52 AM
Wig Wam - "Never Say Die" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv3AyHcZmH8&ab_channel=FrontiersMusicsrl)

Not too shabby, great to see them back though!  :tup
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Post by: Lowdz on November 13, 2020, 07:53:19 AM
Wig Wam - "Never Say Die" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv3AyHcZmH8&ab_channel=FrontiersMusicsrl)

Not too shabby, great to see them back though!  :tup

Yeah, really glad to have them back. I thought they lost their way a bit after WigWamania - things were just a bit bland in the songwriting.
They were great live, and it was fun to chat with Teeny and Glam at the bar when I saw them.

Heard this track the other day and it didn't blow me away but hoping for a return to form with the full album.
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 01:32:34 PM
Never checked them out.  Holter from what I know with Jorn is a ripper guitarist though.
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 03:45:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSoFybZG0_I

W.E.T.?  More like D.R.Y.
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Post by: cramx3 on November 13, 2020, 05:17:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSoFybZG0_I

W.E.T.?  More like D.R.Y.

Sounds like Eclipse.  That's my only issue with W.E.T. it's like the same thing but with JSS. 

Having said that, I got my Eclipse blu-ray today.  I know you'll also say similar to DRY  :lol

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmvRM9gXEAASsaV?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 05:23:15 PM
I loved the first W.E.T. album.  That's a modern melodic rock classic in my book.  Bleed and Scream and Are You Ready to Rock from Eclipse also are melodic rock heaven to me.  Martensson was killing it back then and I'll mention the Toby Hitchcock album again, he was on fire.  But not long after, for me, everything he started doing was just shit, he just totally lost me.

I'd be interested in your thoughts on this new show though.

Also mate, no offence, but I think Garfield needs to lay off the lasagna a little.  He's a beauty though.  He actually has a look on his face like 'fuck, I'm going to have to listen to this shitty band now, aren't I?'  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: TAC on November 13, 2020, 05:27:24 PM
What does W.E.T. actually stand for?
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Post by: cramx3 on November 13, 2020, 05:33:05 PM
Also mate, no offence, but I think Garfield needs to lay off the lasagna a little.  He's a beauty though.  He actually has a look on his face like 'fuck, I'm going to have to listen to this shitty band now, aren't I?'  :lol

It's funny, my x gf used to always bring over treats and food for him... and for me.  We both gained weight. Even my parents were like "wow Buddy got fat" and I blamed it on the x who also got me to gain weight.  He since has been not so friendly with me cause I hardly give him treats or even wet food.  He got used to being spoiled and has been taking it out on me.  Although personally, I love him being a bit chunky for snuggles but I am not a fan of that chunky attitude he's got.

Also, he does have that look because he HATES music for some reason.  He's not into it at all and he probably knows I'm going to blast it.

The set is mostly new stuff so even if I enjoy it, I'm not sure it's going to be something you'll like.
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2020, 05:41:52 PM
Also mate, no offence, but I think Garfield needs to lay off the lasagna a little.

 :rollin :rollin
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 05:46:11 PM
Also mate, no offence, but I think Garfield needs to lay off the lasagna a little.  He's a beauty though.  He actually has a look on his face like 'fuck, I'm going to have to listen to this shitty band now, aren't I?'  :lol

It's funny, my x gf used to always bring over treats and food for him... and for me.  We both gained weight. Even my parents were like "wow Buddy got fat" and I blamed it on the x who also got me to gain weight.  He since has been not so friendly with me cause I hardly give him treats or even wet food.  He got used to being spoiled and has been taking it out on me.  Although personally, I love him being a bit chunky for snuggles but I am not a fan of that chunky attitude he's got.

Also, he does have that look because he HATES music for some reason.  He's not into it at all and he probably knows I'm going to blast it.

The set is mostly new stuff so even if I enjoy it, I'm not sure it's going to be something you'll like.

Haha, he is Garfield.

Yeah, I think I remember reading the set and going 'Pfft'.  Although, I might help me enjoy their newer stuff more.

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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 05:47:52 PM
Also mate, no offence, but I think Garfield needs to lay off the lasagna a little.

 :rollin :rollin

Haha, reading back, even though I said no offence, it was pretty rude.  I do love seeing animals getting loved and spoilt as opposed to crying for food all the time, so it's all good.
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Post by: cramx3 on November 13, 2020, 05:51:02 PM
He's definitely Garfield  :lol I also didn't realize until recently that orange cats are almost all males. 

and it's all good, you can call my cat fat and I'm not offended.  Shit you can call me fat and I won't be offended.

Also, I do not spoil him at all, I blame this on my x but tbh I encouraged it so that he would accept her, which he did but now I'm stuck with his cattitude
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 05:53:34 PM
He's definitely Garfield  :lol I also didn't realize until recently that orange cats are almost all males. 

and it's all good, you can call my cat fat and I'm not offended.  Shit you can call me fat and I won't be offended.

Also, I do not spoil him at all, I blame this on my x but tbh I encouraged it so that he would accept her, which he did but now I'm stuck with his cattitude

 :lol

I love how your cat is getting more discussion than Eclipse.  :rollin
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Post by: cramx3 on November 13, 2020, 05:56:38 PM
He gets more likes if I post a pic of him on social media than I do of myself, it's no surprise really.  I mean I definitely took that picture with him in the background for that reason.
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 05:57:17 PM
What does W.E.T. actually stand for?

Work of Art - Robert Sall
Eclipse - Erik Martnesson
Talisman - Jeff Scott Soto

No, I'm not kidding.

My main gripe with W.E.T after the first album was that Robert Sall is a passenger.  Martensson obviously doesn't let him do or contribute shit.  If he more input, you'd get some more interesting songs.  He is also IMO a better guitarist than Magnus but Martnesson insists on having him in the band as the main guitarist.  What's the fucking point of Sall even being involved?
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 05:58:44 PM
He gets more likes if I post a pic of him on social media than I do of myself, it's no surprise really.  I mean I definitely took that picture with him in the background for that reason.

haha, yeah could tell that. 
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Post by: cramx3 on November 13, 2020, 06:09:22 PM
My main gripe with W.E.T after the first album was that Robert Sall is a passenger.  Martensson obviously doesn't let him do or contribute shit.  If he more input, you'd get some more interesting songs.  He is also IMO a better guitarist than Magnus but Martnesson insists on having him in the band as the main guitarist.  What's the fucking point of Sall even being involved?

I only have a few Eclipse albums and know nothing of Robert Sall.  I've heard a few W.E.T. songs (including listening to that new one) and it always just felt very similar to Eclipse which makes me think Martnesson is the guy. I guess you agree. It's catchy which I like, but I find it hard to really even want to listen to them when it seems like a copy of the other band with other musicians.
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 06:11:11 PM
My main gripe with W.E.T after the first album was that Robert Sall is a passenger.  Martensson obviously doesn't let him do or contribute shit.  If he more input, you'd get some more interesting songs.  He is also IMO a better guitarist than Magnus but Martnesson insists on having him in the band as the main guitarist.  What's the fucking point of Sall even being involved?

I only have a few Eclipse albums and know nothing of Robert Sall.  I've heard a few W.E.T. songs (including listening to that new one) and it always just felt very similar to Eclipse which makes me think Martnesson is the guy. I guess you agree. It's catchy which I like, but I find it hard to really even want to listen to them when it seems like a copy of the other band with other musicians.

The first album had it's own sound, but after that, it became Eclipse 2.0.  I guess I just really like Work of Art so wish there was more of that sound than just a copy of Eclipse as you say.
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2020, 06:56:13 PM
What does W.E.T. actually stand for?

Work of Art - Robert Sall
Eclipse - Erik Martnesson
Talisman - Jeff Scott Soto

No, I'm not kidding.

I totally missed this entire movement of bands.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 06:58:11 PM
What does W.E.T. actually stand for?

Work of Art - Robert Sall
Eclipse - Erik Martnesson
Talisman - Jeff Scott Soto

No, I'm not kidding.

I totally missed this entire movement of bands.

Looks like I have another 3 listening parties for you.  ;D

Seriously, knowing you, you don't need to bother.  Talisman had some top stuff though.
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Post by: TAC on November 13, 2020, 07:00:51 PM
Yeah, Brent sent me some links. I think I still have them.

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Post by: jingle.boy on November 13, 2020, 08:44:18 PM
1st WET album is decent enough, but still powder puff melodic rock. Im totally with you Kade, re Eclipse. Those two albums are the cats meow (pun totally intended). I dont know their first two albums (are they any good), but the three since Are You Ready To Rock are mediocre at best from what I remember.
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Post by: wolfking on November 13, 2020, 11:24:25 PM
1st WET album is decent enough, but still powder puff melodic rock. I’m totally with you Kade, re Eclipse. Those two albums are the cats meow (pun totally intended). I don’t know their first two albums (are they any good), but the three since Are You Ready To Rock are mediocre at best from what I remember.

Didn't give the first two much attention.  From memory they were pretty damn ordinary.

I will say Armageddonize was pretty Damn good actually but the last two were such a disappointment.  Maybe I'll try them again.
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Post by: Lowdz on November 14, 2020, 05:46:38 AM
What does W.E.T. actually stand for?

Work of Art - Robert Sall
Eclipse - Erik Martnesson
Talisman - Jeff Scott Soto

No, I'm not kidding.

I totally missed this entire movement of bands.

Id say you only really missed Talisman, and their albums were hit and miss for me. Some great stuff along with a lot of meh. When they were hot they were hot though.

Eclipse had a couple of good albums.
WoA 💤

WETs first album was decent.
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Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2020, 03:56:52 AM
What does W.E.T. actually stand for?

Work of Art - Robert Sall
Eclipse - Erik Martnesson
Talisman - Jeff Scott Soto

No, I'm not kidding.

I totally missed this entire movement of bands.

Id say you only really missed Talisman, and their albums were hit and miss for me. Some great stuff along with a lot of meh. When they were hot they were hot though.

Eclipse had a couple of good albums.
WoA 💤

WETs first album was decent.

I think Talisman were very inconsistent overall.  You had to sort through most their albums for the gems as there were a lot of duds in there.  But the gems were excellent.  The debut was probably their best in terms of consistency I think but I haven't listened to them for a while. 

For the best representation of the band, the 5 Men Live release is where it's at.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2020, 07:31:30 AM
Discovered this tune/band this morning (on Spotify, so I haven't watched the video - prolly cheesy af).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTfBPLsfT3g

Full album is out 12/4 ... might check it out.  Finally some fresh Melodic Rock.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2020, 07:57:02 AM
Another new one I stumbled on.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=791QBx_WHt4

How is this on Frontiers?  Pretty solid Prog-metal.  Not much of a fan of the keyboard sound, and the video (while high quality) is cheesy af.  I've never heard of this outfit... might have to check out their first two albums. 
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Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2020, 01:10:18 PM
Discovered this tune/band this morning (on Spotify, so I haven't watched the video - prolly cheesy af).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTfBPLsfT3g

Full album is out 12/4 ... might check it out.  Finally some fresh Melodic Rock.

 :lol seriously?
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Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2020, 01:14:10 PM
Another new one I stumbled on.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=791QBx_WHt4

How is this on Frontiers?  Pretty solid Prog-metal.  Not much of a fan of the keyboard sound, and the video (while high quality) is cheesy af.  I've never heard of this outfit... might have to check out their first two albums.

Frontiers back in the day use to have a little bit of this style from memory.  Not much but a little was there.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 15, 2020, 03:14:10 PM
Discovered this tune/band this morning (on Spotify, so I haven't watched the video - prolly cheesy af).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTfBPLsfT3g

Full album is out 12/4 ... might check it out.  Finally some fresh Melodic Rock.

 :lol seriously?

The Dokken shirt was at least pretty cool
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Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2020, 03:22:13 PM
Discovered this tune/band this morning (on Spotify, so I haven't watched the video - prolly cheesy af).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTfBPLsfT3g

Full album is out 12/4 ... might check it out.  Finally some fresh Melodic Rock.

 :lol seriously?

The Dokken shirt was at least pretty cool

 :lol Easily the best part of it.
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 15, 2020, 03:39:06 PM
 :lol
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Post by: TAC on November 15, 2020, 03:43:15 PM
That dude was a wanker! :lol


Controversial opinion.

If I didn't burn my eyes on the video, my ears would tell me that the Magic Dance was actually better than the Simulacrum.
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2020, 03:47:48 PM
 :hefdaddyh
Discovered this tune/band this morning (on Spotify, so I haven't watched the video - prolly cheesy af).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTfBPLsfT3g

Full album is out 12/4 ... might check it out.  Finally some fresh Melodic Rock.

 :lol seriously?

Like I said, I did NOT watch the video. The song itself was pleasing to my ears, and didnt sound like most of Frontiers run-of-the-mill rehashed crap.
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Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2020, 05:23:16 PM
That dude was a wanker! :lol


Controversial opinion.

If I didn't burn my eyes on the video, my ears would tell me that the Magic Dance was actually better than the Simulacrum.

 :lol
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Post by: bl5150 on November 16, 2020, 05:15:38 AM
This is a little song by a couple of guys calling themselves Rocket Up (band members Eddie Leppard and Axl Van Jovi) ...........sorta like Steel Panther meets Harem Scarem without the language.    The video has Wyld Stallyns as the band name in tribute to "Bill and Ted's"

If this is indicative of what they're working on as a bit of an 80's tribute/pisstake then I'm on board

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3wIo6QCHEY
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Post by: jjrock88 on November 16, 2020, 05:18:32 AM
Sounds pretty good
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Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2020, 07:17:28 AM
Yeah, that was nice!  But gosh dangit... NOT ON SPOTIFY!!   >:(
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Post by: Lowdz on November 16, 2020, 08:40:57 AM
:hefdaddyh
Discovered this tune/band this morning (on Spotify, so I haven't watched the video - prolly cheesy af).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTfBPLsfT3g

Full album is out 12/4 ... might check it out.  Finally some fresh Melodic Rock.

 :lol seriously?

Like I said, I did NOT watch the video. The song itself was pleasing to my ears, and didnt sound like most of Frontiers run-of-the-mill rehashed crap.

This is the sort of bland shite that got Frontiers the reputation it has. Pleasant but no substance and no personality.

The Rocket Up was better. Just.
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Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 16, 2020, 04:55:32 PM
What does W.E.T. actually stand for?

Work of Art - Robert Sall
Eclipse - Erik Martnesson
Talisman - Jeff Scott Soto

No, I'm not kidding.

I totally missed this entire movement of bands.

Id say you only really missed Talisman, and their albums were hit and miss for me. Some great stuff along with a lot of meh. When they were hot they were hot though.

Eclipse had a couple of good albums.
WoA 💤

WETs first album was decent.

I think Talisman were very inconsistent overall.  You had to sort through most their albums for the gems as there were a lot of duds in there.  But the gems were excellent.  The debut was probably their best in terms of consistency I think but I haven't listened to them for a while. 

For the best representation of the band, the 5 Men Live release is where it's at.
I feel so alone, I really love WoA.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2020, 05:00:29 PM
What does W.E.T. actually stand for?

Work of Art - Robert Sall
Eclipse - Erik Martnesson
Talisman - Jeff Scott Soto

No, I'm not kidding.

I totally missed this entire movement of bands.

Id say you only really missed Talisman, and their albums were hit and miss for me. Some great stuff along with a lot of meh. When they were hot they were hot though.

Eclipse had a couple of good albums.
WoA 💤

WETs first album was decent.

I think Talisman were very inconsistent overall.  You had to sort through most their albums for the gems as there were a lot of duds in there.  But the gems were excellent.  The debut was probably their best in terms of consistency I think but I haven't listened to them for a while. 

For the best representation of the band, the 5 Men Live release is where it's at.
I feel so alone, I really love WoA.

So do I mate.  Probably my fav project of the bunch.  Tim would just hate them, that's why I said he didn't miss much with them.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on November 16, 2020, 07:53:50 PM
New Joel Hoekstras 13 - https://youtu.be/4twyJ-VON5k

Not bad. Great lineup in the band; album coming in Feb.

Yall gonna hate on this too?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2020, 08:10:53 PM
Yup. :lol




Just kidding. I don't even know who that is. What's this great lineup?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2020, 08:17:20 PM
New Joel Hoekstras 13 - https://youtu.be/4twyJ-VON5k

Not bad. Great lineup in the band; album coming in Feb.

Yall gonna hate on this too?

We'll see.  I'll keep you in suspense until I check it out tonight.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2020, 08:50:44 PM
Wow, that is a nice lineup. Nice to see a Vinnie Appice sighting.


That song blows chunks though. I'd rather hear the wanker from the other post. :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2020, 08:58:41 PM
Wow, that is a nice lineup. Nice to see a Vinnie Appice sighting.


That song blows chunks though. I'd rather hear the wanker from the other post. :lol

 :rollin :rollin :rollin

Don't make me laugh like that in the office around people.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: TAC on November 16, 2020, 09:03:28 PM
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0ixSXPNRYd8/maxresdefault.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: jjrock88 on November 16, 2020, 09:42:56 PM
Hang on. Is Tim saying that Russell Allen blows chunks??? I think its time for an intervention
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 16, 2020, 10:17:38 PM
Hang on. Is Tim saying that Russell Allen blows chunks??? I think its time for an intervention

The first album I picked up but can't tell you a thing about it.  Had some good guests too but the songs didn't have much substance or lasting power.  Joel is a great guitarist but haven't seen much evidence in the songwriting department.

I won't take Tim's opinion as gospel until I listen for myself.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: Lowdz on November 17, 2020, 01:38:11 AM
New Joel Hoekstras 13 - https://youtu.be/4twyJ-VON5k

Not bad. Great lineup in the band; album coming in Feb.

Yall gonna hate on this too?

No. I liked it. At least the vocals have some character.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2020, 04:09:52 AM
Hang on. Is Tim saying that Russell Allen blows chunks??? I think its time for an intervention

The first album I picked up but can't tell you a thing about it.  Had some good guests too but the songs didn't have much substance or lasting power.  Joel is a great guitarist but haven't seen much evidence in the songwriting department.

I won't take Tim's opinion as gospel until I listen for myself.  :lol

I pretty much summed it up before listening it seems.

To go one step further, a generic piece of shit song like this is taking the piss with the people involved.  Forgettable and so underwhelming.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on November 17, 2020, 04:59:19 AM
I really liked the first album.  This opening single was fairly ordinary, but I'll reserve judgment until the entire album drops.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2020, 06:00:44 AM
Hang on. Is Tim saying that Russell Allen blows chunks??? I think its time for an intervention


I wouldn't have known that was Russell Allen unless I saw the lineup.

I think he's very good, but he just doesn't do a thing for me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: Zook on November 17, 2020, 02:45:49 PM
Russell sounds great as always, but the song isn't very good. Michael Eriksen would fit the song better as it sounds like a B-side from The Magnificent.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: bl5150 on December 17, 2020, 11:22:21 PM
So Sunstorm (a project that everyone associates with Joe Lynn Turner) started out as JLT plus PC69 members etc..........and most recently became JLT with whoever.   So Frontiers have now booted JLT , still calling it Sunstorm and replaced JLT with guess who?  His initials are RR  :)

WTF  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 18, 2020, 04:02:47 AM
So Sunstorm (a project that everyone associates with Joe Lynn Turner) started out as JLT plus PC69 members etc..........and most recently became JLT with whoever.   So Frontiers have now booted JLT , still calling it Sunstorm and replaced JLT with guess who?  His initials are RR  :)

WTF  :facepalm:

Get fucked!  Sunstorm IS JLT.  Even the last couple were decent.  The last one was alright but Edge of Tomorrow was excellent.  What an absolute joke!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on December 18, 2020, 05:41:37 AM
I was just comin in here to post this!  lol

Also coming on March 12th, Lifeblood by Secret Sphere (with original vocalist Roberto Messina returning)

Frontiers is gonna be busy on March 12th.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on December 23, 2020, 09:02:35 AM
PHEW!  Saved this from page 2!!!   :lol

In case you missed the news, a new prog rock supergroup is on the way next year! Arc Of Life is a new progressive rock supergroup featuring three members of the current YES (official) line-up, vocalist/guitarist Jon Davison, bassist/vocalist Billy Sherwood, and drummer Jay Schellen, one of the most interesting talents in the new progressive rock scene in the US, Dave Kerzner (ex Sound of Contact) on keyboards, and Jimmy Haun (also featured on YES albums in the past) on guitar. Fans can get their first taste of the band's forthcoming self-titled debut with the new single and video, 'You Make It Real'. Watch HERE: https://youtu.be/_84UCEDeEkc
Pre-order/save "Arc Of Life" HERE: https://orcd.co/arcoflife Out February 12, 2021.

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Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 23, 2020, 09:32:19 AM
This has already been torn apart in the Yes thread. Not sure if it will fare better here.  ;)

I personally think it's shit.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on December 23, 2020, 09:44:03 AM
This has already been torn apart in the Yes thread. Not sure if it will fare better here.  ;)

I personally think it's shit.

Gotchya... I don't follow that thread.

And I hadn't listened before posting it .... it is indeed shyte.  Perfect for Frontiers!   :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: gazinwales on December 23, 2020, 09:45:17 AM
I lasted 30 seconds and had to turn it off, terrible.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: Lowdz on December 23, 2020, 02:00:58 PM
That was shit, even by Frontiers standards
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2020, 02:21:44 PM
That was some real softcock shit right there.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: bl5150 on December 23, 2020, 04:04:52 PM
 :lol

the official Frontiers softcock shit thread?  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2020, 04:24:09 PM
:lol

the official Frontiers softcock shit thread?  ;D

Done!  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 23, 2020, 04:33:48 PM
 :rollin

And a Merry Christmas to all at Frontiers.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: King Postwhore on December 23, 2020, 04:36:32 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: jingle.boy on December 23, 2020, 06:10:50 PM
:lol

the official Frontiers softcock shit thread?  ;D

Done!  ;D

 :rollin :rollin

Oh, you HAVE to change the thread title (though, maybe "softc*ck" just so Bosk doesn't get a bee in his bonnet)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2020, 06:15:51 PM
errr....way ahead of you mate.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Factory thread v.......Del Vicchio strikes again! :(
Post by: wolfking on December 23, 2020, 06:17:12 PM
:lol

the official Frontiers softcock shit thread?  ;D

Done!  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 23, 2020, 06:27:35 PM
Not all heroes wear capes!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Evermind on December 24, 2020, 12:45:38 AM
:rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 24, 2020, 05:17:11 AM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2020, 04:50:10 PM
I haven't gotten in trouble yet so hopefully the name stays.  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 24, 2020, 05:14:16 PM
Wishing all you softcocks a very wimpy Christmas :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on December 24, 2020, 06:38:21 PM
Wishing all you softcocks a very wimpy Christmas :metal


(https://uncletnuc.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/kip-santa.jpg?w=584)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 24, 2020, 06:38:58 PM
 :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 24, 2020, 07:03:11 PM
Merry fucking Christmas to me!!  :heart
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on December 24, 2020, 07:09:03 PM
Merry fucking Christmas to me!!  :heart


So much for softcock. :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 24, 2020, 08:06:23 PM
It's gonna be a flacid Christmas now.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ozzy554 on December 24, 2020, 09:09:21 PM
Well I saw the new title and was amused but confused. Then I listened to 30 seconds of that song and now I get it. Very accurate description to be honest. Well at least after this one album you'll never hear from the project again like 97% of the "supergroups" on the label.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 25, 2020, 03:18:44 AM
Merry fucking Christmas to me!!  :heart


So much for softcock. :lol

Merry Kipmas!  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 25, 2020, 05:28:26 AM
Wishing all you softcocks a very wimpy Christmas :metal


(https://uncletnuc.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/kip-santa.jpg?w=584)

I'll raise you ..............oldie but a goodie :)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QCHCpXK2/timxmas.jpg)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 25, 2020, 01:00:30 PM
The gift that just keeps on giving.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on December 25, 2020, 04:54:31 PM
 :facepalm:

 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on December 29, 2020, 09:25:34 PM
Pretty sure Tim has that poster on his bedroom wall.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 30, 2020, 04:08:26 AM
Pretty sure Tim has that poster on his bedroom wall.

On his ceiling actually.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on December 30, 2020, 06:38:08 AM
Pretty sure Tim has that poster on his bedroom wall.

On his ceiling actually.

At least I dont have it wallpapered in my room. I heard you didnt even need to buy glue.  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 12, 2021, 04:37:34 PM
Nothing remotely new here but I found it pretty easy listening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP-uu0lzyBI    (Joel Hoekstra)


The first thing that jumped out at me (without knowing who was involved) ....Jeff Scott Soto on backing vox.  He has one of the most recognisable sounds ever.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 12, 2021, 04:40:48 PM
I see David Lee Roth is now acting as wardrobe/hair consultant to Jorn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXJM_kMjW9Y&t=5s
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 12, 2021, 04:45:42 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/4tlgge.jpg)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 12, 2021, 04:48:21 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2021, 05:58:33 PM
I see David Lee Roth is now acting as wardrobe/hair consultant to Jorn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXJM_kMjW9Y&t=5s

I see by the comments this song is going in Eurovision. Gave the song a minute.  Man this guy used to rock so hard.

You're spot on with the DLC comment though.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 12, 2021, 09:23:44 PM
Damn... those rhinestones!

Yeah, those two definitely belonged in this thread.  I liked the last Hoekstra-13 album well enough.  I'll give this one a spin when it drops, but not expecting much.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 14, 2021, 06:43:27 PM
Kade!  KADE!!!! IT HAS PREMIERED!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lps3L0acORA
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 14, 2021, 06:44:50 PM
Don't do it!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2021, 07:41:41 PM
Kade!  KADE!!!! IT HAS PREMIERED!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lps3L0acORA

Don't do it!

I'm actually going to watch this tonight and report my thought, strap on your seatbelts gents!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 14, 2021, 07:53:55 PM
I predict the word "bitch" is gonna get a workout in this thread shortly  :lol


Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2021, 07:54:47 PM
I predict the word "bitch" is gonna get a workout in this thread shortly  :lol

Sounds like a challenge to try and restrain myself.  I'll see how I go.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ozzy554 on January 14, 2021, 08:01:34 PM
Pretty much what I expected from something posted in this thread. Honestly the thing that bugged me the most was the video. The biggest problem with only having 1 person in the video and no other bandmembers is that during the instrumental parts she has fuck all to do and is just standing around trying to look artsy until the vocals start back up. It just comes across as cheap.....even by Frontiers standards.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2021, 08:10:33 PM
Pretty much what I expected from something posted in this thread. Honestly the thing that bugged me the most was the video. The biggest problem with only having 1 person in the video and no other bandmembers is that during the instrumental parts she has fuck all to do and is just standing around trying to look artsy until the vocals start back up. It just comes across as cheap.....even by Frontiers standards.

I'd rather see a dude play a solo then look at that ugly bitch's face dancing around and look all awkward and non attractive.

I'm guessing someone left the paper bag at home the day of the video shoot?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2021, 08:13:32 PM
I predict the word "bitch" is gonna get a workout in this thread shortly  :lol

Sounds like a challenge to try and restrain myself.  I'll see how I go.  :lol

....aaaaaaaannnd I failed.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ozzy554 on January 14, 2021, 08:17:15 PM
I refuse to go backwards through this thread but I'm assuming that I'm missing some backstory here
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 14, 2021, 08:18:55 PM
I refuse to go backwards through this thread but I'm assuming that I'm missing some backstory here

Wolfking loves Issa.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jjrock88 on January 14, 2021, 09:09:21 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 14, 2021, 09:40:57 PM
I refuse to go backwards through this thread but I'm assuming that I'm missing some backstory here

Wolfking loves Issa.

 :censored >:(
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 15, 2021, 03:42:03 AM
I predict the word "bitch" is gonna get a workout in this thread shortly  :lol

Sounds like a challenge to try and restrain myself.  I'll see how I go.  :lol

....aaaaaaaannnd I failed.

 :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

Yeah, I wouldn't either.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 05:02:31 AM
Those keyboards at the start almost had me vomiting within 5 seconds.

That lead guitar line actually was alright with a nice tone but then quickly, this bitch started singing and yep, the paper bag was accidentally left at home.

Fuck, how many unneccesary key changes can we fit into this song in under a minute?  Fuck, we need more just to try and make this bitch sound interesting.

Reminds me heavily of a Find Me song but with shit vocals, and even though this bitch has a decent body, Robbie LaBlanc is still more attractive.

Oh fuck, the second verse and we're into about our fifth fucking key change.

Oh, here comes the Boys of Summer three note guitar melody recycled and used in every third Frontiers song.  Martensson and WET could get away with it but not this bitch!

Okay a solo.....wait, that solo sounds like Mularoni *checks credits* it is!  Dude, don't get suckered in to Del Vicchio' s lair, you actually have some talent.  Your playing for this bitch?  You play with Tom Englund dude, come on!  Oh who by the way is also more attractive. 

Fuck, solo wasn't long enough, she's opening her fucking mouth again.

Lol, another key change?  Fuck off!

What the fuck was that at the end?  You're not Mariah Carey bitch!

The only good thing about this is Mularoni, guitar playing and I guess he's also more attractive than this bitch.

Time to watch some Gary Moore or Children of Bodom.  Haven't decided yet but yeah, fuck that bitch.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 15, 2021, 05:31:16 AM
So in summary ...............it's a bitchin' song  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 05:33:23 AM
So in summary ...............it's a bitchin' song  :metal

 :lol  you son of a bitch!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 15, 2021, 06:50:15 AM
Those keyboards at the start almost had me vomiting within 5 seconds.

That lead guitar line actually was alright with a nice tone but then quickly, this bitch started singing and yep, the paper bag was accidentally left at home.

Fuck, how many unneccesary key changes can we fit into this song in under a minute?  Fuck, we need more just to try and make this bitch sound interesting.

Reminds me heavily of a Find Me song but with shit vocals, and even though this bitch has a decent body, Robbie LaBlanc is still more attractive.

Oh fuck, the second verse and we're into about our fifth fucking key change.

Oh, here comes the Boys of Summer three note guitar melody recycled and used in every third Frontiers song.  Martensson and WET could get away with it but not this bitch!

Okay a solo.....wait, that solo sounds like Mularoni *checks credits* it is!  Dude, don't get suckered in to Del Vicchio' s lair, you actually have some talent.  Your playing for this bitch?  You play with Tom Englund dude, come on!  Oh who by the way is also more attractive. 

Fuck, solo wasn't long enough, she's opening her fucking mouth again.

Lol, another key change?  Fuck off!

What the fuck was that at the end?  You're not Mariah Carey bitch!

The only good thing about this is Mularoni, guitar playing and I guess he's also more attractive than this bitch.

Time to watch some Gary Moore or Children of Bodom.  Haven't decided yet but yeah, fuck that bitch.

Glorious... reminds me of the FU rage post.  Thank you for starting my Friday off right.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on January 15, 2021, 07:00:06 AM
Funny thing is, except for the paper bag (she's not THAT unattractive, but then again, I'm not sure I've ever seen Tom Englund! :) :) :)) most of that rant was spot on.   There was one key change, after the solo, that was as awkward as me talking to girls when I was 17.   And for some reason - might be because I was listening on my computer - her voice when she hit those high, sustaining notes at the end of the verses actually hurt my ears.    I quit listening with about 45 seconds left to read the review, then went back (because I had missed the "Mariah Carey" part) and sure enough, that's what it was, even down to the cheese-filled hand gesture marking out the notes being sung. 

I'm sure she's got some good music somewhere, and I'm certainly not averse to the genre of the song itself, but that was not it's best example right there.   Whoof. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 15, 2021, 07:36:23 AM
I'm going to have to watch/listen now thanks to Kade  :lol
Wasn't going to touch it (or her) with a ten foot pole. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 15, 2021, 07:53:07 AM
Jesus - I know flashing lights can induce epilepsy but is it the same for music? That song was the equivalent of flashing lights.  :biggrin:
Obviously made up of bits and pieces Frontiers had lying around and thrown together.

She's got an ok voice. Isn't the prettiest. The songs are boring and average in every way. Frontiers!

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 15, 2021, 09:02:47 AM
Probably some inside joke within this thread or some beef against the singer that I don't know about. I'm not sure why calling her a b**** is necessary. I just knew the video would be budget and cheesy so I just listened to the song on spotify instead, problem solved. It's a decent song, nothing special but I like it. She has a great voice.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 15, 2021, 09:20:50 AM
Probably some inside joke within this thread or some beef against the singer that I don't know about. I'm not sure why calling her a b**** is necessary. I just knew the video would be budget and cheesy so I just listened to the song on spotify instead, problem solved. It's a decent song, nothing special but I like it. She has a great voice.

Its am Australian thing!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on January 15, 2021, 09:33:06 AM
Probably some inside joke within this thread or some beef against the singer that I don't know about. I'm not sure why calling her a b**** is necessary. I just knew the video would be budget and cheesy so I just listened to the song on spotify instead, problem solved. It's a decent song, nothing special but I like it. She has a great voice.

(I can't speak for Wolfking, but I took the use of "bitch" as 100% a joke; scroll back and it was a running thing for about a page or so. Not that the feelings about the song are a joke - it's really is kind of bland and formulaic - but still...)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jjrock88 on January 15, 2021, 09:41:24 AM
Wolf and Issa....cant you two see that youre in love with each other!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 15, 2021, 10:30:28 AM
Probably some inside joke within this thread or some beef against the singer that I don't know about. I'm not sure why calling her a b**** is necessary. I just knew the video would be budget and cheesy so I just listened to the song on spotify instead, problem solved. It's a decent song, nothing special but I like it. She has a great voice.

(I can't speak for Wolfking, but I took the use of "bitch" as 100% a joke; scroll back and it was a running thing for about a page or so. Not that the feelings about the song are a joke - it's really is kind of bland and formulaic - but still...)
That's ok, i'm always cautious reentering this thread once it's marinated for a few months. Never know what kind of state it is in.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ozzy554 on January 15, 2021, 10:36:28 AM
Probably some inside joke within this thread or some beef against the singer that I don't know about. I'm not sure why calling her a b**** is necessary. I just knew the video would be budget and cheesy so I just listened to the song on spotify instead, problem solved. It's a decent song, nothing special but I like it. She has a great voice.

(I can't speak for Wolfking, but I took the use of "bitch" as 100% a joke; scroll back and it was a running thing for about a page or so. Not that the feelings about the song are a joke - it's really is kind of bland and formulaic - but still...)

 
That's ok, i'm always cautious reentering this thread once it's marinated for a few months. Never know what kind of state it is in.  :lol

The new title of the thread wasn't a big enough hint?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on January 15, 2021, 10:47:47 AM
Not for nothing, but apparently, across the world the name "Issa" is like "Bob".  There's an "Issa" from Senegal, there's an "Issa" from Japan, there's an "Issa" from Norway (this one).   Man.   I was trying to find some info (age, discography, etc.) and it was like googling "John Smith". 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ozzy554 on January 15, 2021, 11:32:49 AM
I couldn't even find a Wikipedia page on her and lost interest immediately soon after.

Also the first single for the non JLT Sunstorm came out today. I only made it through about half the song before I tapped out. Just more basic generic stuff.

Someone in the comments called Frontiers a money laundering scheme and I can't stop thinking about that.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 15, 2021, 12:36:30 PM
Probably some inside joke within this thread or some beef against the singer that I don't know about. I'm not sure why calling her a b**** is necessary. I just knew the video would be budget and cheesy so I just listened to the song on spotify instead, problem solved. It's a decent song, nothing special but I like it. She has a great voice.

(I can't speak for Wolfking, but I took the use of "bitch" as 100% a joke; scroll back and it was a running thing for about a page YEAR or so. Not that the feelings about the song are a joke - it's really is kind of bland and formulaic - but still...)

Fix'd
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 01:42:33 PM
It's definitely been a running joke for a long time now, the bitch thing was having some fun at Brent' s post beforehand.

I'm glad I've generated so much discussion here, for all the wrong reasons.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 01:44:41 PM
Funny thing is, except for the paper bag (she's not THAT unattractive, but then again, I'm not sure I've ever seen Tom Englund! :) :) :)) most of that rant was spot on.   There was one key change, after the solo, that was as awkward as me talking to girls when I was 17.   And for some reason - might be because I was listening on my computer - her voice when she hit those high, sustaining notes at the end of the verses actually hurt my ears.    I quit listening with about 45 seconds left to read the review, then went back (because I had missed the "Mariah Carey" part) and sure enough, that's what it was, even down to the cheese-filled hand gesture marking out the notes being sung. 

I'm sure she's got some good music somewhere, and I'm certainly not averse to the genre of the song itself, but that was not it's best example right there.   Whoof.

Love this post.  :lol

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 01:45:24 PM
Those keyboards at the start almost had me vomiting within 5 seconds.

That lead guitar line actually was alright with a nice tone but then quickly, this bitch started singing and yep, the paper bag was accidentally left at home.

Fuck, how many unneccesary key changes can we fit into this song in under a minute?  Fuck, we need more just to try and make this bitch sound interesting.

Reminds me heavily of a Find Me song but with shit vocals, and even though this bitch has a decent body, Robbie LaBlanc is still more attractive.

Oh fuck, the second verse and we're into about our fifth fucking key change.

Oh, here comes the Boys of Summer three note guitar melody recycled and used in every third Frontiers song.  Martensson and WET could get away with it but not this bitch!

Okay a solo.....wait, that solo sounds like Mularoni *checks credits* it is!  Dude, don't get suckered in to Del Vicchio' s lair, you actually have some talent.  Your playing for this bitch?  You play with Tom Englund dude, come on!  Oh who by the way is also more attractive. 

Fuck, solo wasn't long enough, she's opening her fucking mouth again.

Lol, another key change?  Fuck off!

What the fuck was that at the end?  You're not Mariah Carey bitch!

The only good thing about this is Mularoni, guitar playing and I guess he's also more attractive than this bitch.

Time to watch some Gary Moore or Children of Bodom.  Haven't decided yet but yeah, fuck that bitch.

Glorious... reminds me of the FU rage post.  Thank you for starting my Friday off right.

I knew you'd appreciate.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 04:51:13 PM
In case anyone was curious, I opted for the Gary Moore.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 15, 2021, 04:56:42 PM
In case anyone was curious, I opted for the Gary Moore.

Now that's something I can appreciate!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 04:59:01 PM
In case anyone was curious, I opted for the Gary Moore.

Now that's something I can appreciate!

I'm on a bit of a Moore kick.  I'm finishing going through the Bodom albums but yeah, going to revisit this legend a bit moore.  Just pulling out a lot of his cd's now and ripping them to my new PC.  Listening to We Want Moore, so good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 05:13:42 PM
New Sunstorm;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOfCuhLd6eU

This is as big a fuckup as replacing Karlsson with Tolkki on Allen/Lande.

Mularoni is a great guitarist but jeez he plays the same solo everytime, almost literally.  Same key changes into the solo and another change at the end of the solo.  His bends, pinch harmonics and phrasing and runs are always the same.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ozzy554 on January 15, 2021, 05:19:09 PM
In case anyone was curious, I opted for the Gary Moore.

good move. Ive had Out in the Fields stuck in my head for over a week at this point.

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 05:23:48 PM
In case anyone was curious, I opted for the Gary Moore.

good move. Ive had Out in the Fields stuck in my head for over a week at this point.

Such an amazing classic.  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jjrock88 on January 15, 2021, 05:54:04 PM
Whether its Thin Lizzy/Gary Moore or Primal Fear singing Out in the Fields, that song kicks major ass  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 15, 2021, 06:06:52 PM
Listening to We Want Moore, so good.

OK, I'm spinning it now.

Murder In The Skies....

Pop quiz..

Anyone remember who wrote that riff? Who was paying attention??
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 15, 2021, 06:15:59 PM
That solo on Shapes Of Things  :hefdaddy

Unfuckinghuman
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 06:28:18 PM
Listening to We Want Moore, so good.

OK, I'm spinning it now.

Murder In The Skies....

Pop quiz..

Anyone remember who wrote that riff? Who was paying attention??

Fuuuuuuccckkkkk??!?!??  Was it Neil Carter?  Or even Chapman?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 15, 2021, 06:33:45 PM
Nice job!! Yes, it was on the Chapman/Carter/Parker demo that they did after the Making Contact tour blew up in the Spring of 1983.

And I've mentioned this many times but Don Airey was unavailable to do Gary's US tour that summer, so Neil Carter did it. And since they were third on the bill of my very first concert, that makes them the very first band I ever saw. Gary Moore, Neil Carter, Neil Murray, and Ian f'n Paice!!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 08:31:15 PM
Nice job!! Yes, it was on the Chapman/Carter/Parker demo that they did after the Making Contact tour blew up in the Spring of 1983.

And I've mentioned this many times but Don Airey was unavailable to do Gary's US tour that summer, so Neil Carter did it. And since they were third on the bill of my very first concert, that makes them the very first band I ever saw. Gary Moore, Neil Carter, Neil Murray, and Ian f'n Paice!!

Booyah!

I think there's a full concert on YouTube with that lineup perhaps?  I'll have to check it.

The list of bands and artists you've seen mate almost makes you celebrity status.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 15, 2021, 08:34:17 PM
No, it just makes me old. :)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 15, 2021, 09:25:37 PM
No, it just makes me old. :)

You guys would scoff but I do wish I was born 10 years earlier. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 15, 2021, 10:56:15 PM
New Sunstorm;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOfCuhLd6eU

This is as big a fuckup as replacing Karlsson with Tolkki on Allen/Lande.

Mularoni is a great guitarist but jeez he plays the same solo everytime, almost literally.  Same key changes into the solo and another change at the end of the solo.  His bends, pinch harmonics and phrasing and runs are always the same.

I listened to about half ..............it's listenable but that's about it.

Every time I hear Ronnie now I get the vibe of Steve Lee (Gotthard.........R.I.P.).    The guys in Gotthard should just bite the bullet - Leo Leoni has used Ronnie in his side project - and get Ronnie in.   He's the perfect fit and Gotthard are a pretty big band in Europe.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2021, 02:47:52 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/joe-lynn-turner-blasts-record-label-for-continuing-sunstorm-project-without-him-says-he-has-no-intention-of-leaving-his-aor-roots/

"I made an original statement in December where I kindly and respectfully to all parties involved, tried to explain the reasons for my departure from the SUNSTORM Project. My statement was very clear, however, with the Frontiers official media release of the new SUNSTORM and the accompanying statements, in my opinion, I see a definite attempt to twist my words to justify the effort to promote this new release of SUNSTORM, show their autonomous power for any and all creative and business endeavours and prove the fact that no moral or ethical considerations exist as long as the corporation holds the legal trademark

"In my view, what Frontiers is claiming about Me in their official statement has nothing to do with real cause and events. I am very agitated with my professional brand, name and likeness being used by them in the media as an excuse to validate their narrative and agenda of continuing the Project's title with a replacement singer. Trying to convince the loyal fans that I 'moved away from the original melodic rock direction of the early SUNSTORM albums' of which I was the main vocalist and imply that I did not want to continue due to my 'desire to work on heavier music styles' is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE! FAKE NEWS!

"Judging by the outpour of questions from fans on social media, I am very concerned with Frontiers false claims of which they have absolutely NO first-hand knowledge of. For the record, I still have so many more AOR demo songs and could easily do an AOR style record tomorrow, so, I guess, I will take my songs to another record label and continue my AOR discography As I must now specify again and again, I have absolutely NO INTENTION TO STOP my AOR original roots!

"[Frontiers president and A&R director Serafino] Perugino states that he brought this 6th album 'back towards the original musical style that was established with the early albums' with 'outstanding results'. In my humble opinion, after listening to the first released single from the new album, it could not be further from the truth. There seems to be a great deal of hypocrisy in this situation. I personally see absolutely no 'original musical style' about it. No original: producer, vocalist, band members, song writers Nothing. So, the main issue here is, why continue calling it SUNSTORM? Who do they think they are kidding?... After all, only fans can be the judge.

"To me it resembles the majority of releases on Frontiers Label as they often seem to be written, performed and produced by the same source. This being the exact reason why I was not going to continue

"'With Alessandro Del Vecchio as usual handling the songwriting and Perugino overseeing the A&R and creative direction', as they point out in their official statement, I believe, the purpose of the original classic AOR project ceased to exist therefore, I was extremely reluctant to offer any more of my original songs due to the lack of negotiation, promotion, poor business tactics and general lack of respect for Me on their part. And I tried to express these concerns 3 years ago while recording the 5th album 'The Road to Hell' but they were never heard, acknowledged or address by Frontiers. Completely frustrating!

"I must make it very clear, I do not speak for other Artists on the Frontiers Label and never would, I have absolutely no intention to attack or malign anyone, but this is my experience and personal point of view after so many years of association In my 50-year carrier, I have been with a lot bigger record companies and was never treated and discounted like I was with Frontiers Label.

"I have spent 14 dedicated years to create SUNSTORM's legacy Only to be unfairly replaced Again, I was never informed that the Label will continue the SUNSTORM brand with the replacement singer

"In closing, I'd like to take this opportunity and thank all the incredibly loyal fans that have supported Me and SUNSTORM through out all these years Right up to this present moment your dedication is the exact reason why I as an Artist needed to take this stand and uphold the quality and purpose of what we all love and treasure about the Music! I would never cheat You or Myself by being compromised by any dominating corporate forces! The Artists together with the Fans must preserve the integrity of the Art. For what we choose now, echoes in Eternity

"Love and Respect JLT".


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Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on January 17, 2021, 03:13:09 PM
Why does he insist on capitalizing "Me" and "Myself" through the piece?    (And yes, that's what I latch onto, because I don't know the first thing about the behind the scenes shenanigans).
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 17, 2021, 03:29:47 PM
Why does he insist on capitalizing "Me" and "Myself" through the piece?    (And yes, that's what I latch onto, because I don't know the first thing about the behind the scenes shenanigans).

He also capitalized "I" too.  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 17, 2021, 04:56:52 PM
Other than the few instances of a 'Trump-like' style of communicating, this was a completely fair response given the situation.  I don't know the behind the scenes shenanigans either, but I do know what my ears listen to from Frontiers - 97% is softcock shit.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2021, 05:02:32 PM
Other than the few instances of a 'Trump-like' style of communicating, this was a completely fair response given the situation.  I don't know the behind the scenes shenanigans either, but I do know what my ears listen to from Frontiers - 97% is softcock shit.

He basically backed up what we've been saying for a long time now.  Good on him for putting it all out there I say.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on January 17, 2021, 05:36:09 PM
Other than the few instances of a 'Trump-like' style of communicating, this was a completely fair response given the situation.  I don't know the behind the scenes shenanigans either, but I do know what my ears listen to from Frontiers - 97% is softcock shit.

It's more me making fun of JLT than anything else.   For me, an outside observer, there's something fishy about Frontiers.  I've looked into a couple albums, even those with amazing, documented songwriters like Jack Blades, and they seem to be dominated by Alessandro Del Vecchio and that rings false to me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 17, 2021, 05:58:32 PM
Other than the few instances of a 'Trump-like' style of communicating, this was a completely fair response given the situation.  I don't know the behind the scenes shenanigans either, but I do know what my ears listen to from Frontiers - 97% is softcock shit.

It's more me making fun of JLT than anything else.   For me, an outside observer, there's something fishy about Frontiers.  I've looked into a couple albums, even those with amazing, documented songwriters like Jack Blades, and they seem to be dominated by Alessandro Del Vecchio and that rings false to me.

It's been a constant descent now for a long time and just continues to go downhill.

If Del Vicchio starts writing for Karlsson, it probably wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ozzy554 on January 17, 2021, 07:21:36 PM
"To me it resembles the majority of releases on Frontiers Label as they often seem to be written, performed and produced by the same source. This being the exact reason why I was not going to continue"

This is how I feel about the label in general. 95% of what I hear from them sounds like it could be from the same project but with different singers.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on January 18, 2021, 07:38:12 AM
Which I'm not fundamentally against (Ayreon and Star One), but just be honest about it.  I feel like I'm watching something unfold with Arjen, like I - as a fan - am along for the ride.   Jack Blades is one of my favorite musicians of all time, and I looked forward to Revolution Saints as something new; I think I listened to the first album once and never bothered to go back.  It felt... not deceptive, but calculated.   Like a VEHICLE.  I'm not all the way through the Ayreon catalogue (though I have the two Star One CDs) and never once have I EVER thought of that as "vehicle".   
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 18, 2021, 08:58:58 AM
How did Ayreon make it in to the Frontiers thread?  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 18, 2021, 09:33:15 AM
How did Ayreon make it in to the Frontiers thread?  :lol

Pearls before swine?  ;)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on January 18, 2021, 01:15:07 PM
It shouldn't surprise anyone here, but when I bowl, I need those little bumpers to keep my ball in my lane.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2021, 02:24:04 PM
How did Ayreon make it in to the Frontiers thread?  :lol

This lol.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Grappler on January 18, 2021, 04:11:25 PM
Good for him for calling out Frontiers on using the same songwriters for so many different projects.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ozzy554 on January 18, 2021, 07:57:20 PM
Good for him for calling out Frontiers on using the same songwriters for so many different projects.

Which is nice to see. I would assume that it would be tempting to just shut up and take the payday especially for someone at the later stage of their career. He seems to still care about whatever his name is attached to. He also still sounds pretty damn good for someone pushing 70
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on January 18, 2021, 08:22:43 PM
I couldn't even find a Wikipedia page on her and lost interest immediately soon after.

Also the first single for the non JLT Sunstorm came out today. I only made it through about half the song before I tapped out. Just more basic generic stuff.

Someone in the comments called Frontiers a money laundering scheme and I can't stop thinking about that.

 :rollin :rollin

After reading the Blabbermouth link, I had to find this quote. I guess JLT agrees.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2021, 04:43:09 AM
Gary Hughes, what the fucking fuck is this shit.

https://youtu.be/WAgwrHdrvYA

Fuck me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on January 20, 2021, 06:48:26 AM
Gary Hughes, what the fucking fuck is this shit.

https://youtu.be/WAgwrHdrvYA

Fuck me.

I've never heard of him; is he Glenn's brother?  :)   

But seriously, that song MUSICALLY is the bomb.   If we could make an instrumental edit, we'd be on to something.  The dude can flat out PLAY, but the monochromatic singing just doesn't suit that song at ALL.

I can't say who, but I'm doing a review of another really, REALLY good guitar player (well known for his time in two bigtime hard rock/melodic rock acts) and his album is 10 songs of just insane, top flight melodic rock guitar work/composition, but he's got a singer - two of them actually - that are well known on this board and yet... almost every time there are vocals, the songs veer into "blow chunks" territory.  Not quite, but close.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ozzy554 on January 20, 2021, 06:50:06 AM
Well for once it was something that I wasn't expecting. Still not good but hey it's nice to see something different.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 20, 2021, 07:20:19 AM
I can't say who, but I'm doing a review of another really, REALLY good guitar player (well known for his time in two bigtime hard rock/melodic rock acts) and his album is 10 songs of just insane, top flight melodic rock guitar work/composition, but he's got a singer - two of them actually - that are well known on this board and yet... almost every time there are vocals, the songs veer into "blow chunks" territory.  Not quite, but close.

Sounds like the new Schenker album.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 20, 2021, 02:21:22 PM
Gary Hughes, what the fucking fuck is this shit.

https://youtu.be/WAgwrHdrvYA

Fuck me.

I've never heard of him; is he Glenn's brother?  :)   

But seriously, that song MUSICALLY is the bomb.   If we could make an instrumental edit, we'd be on to something.  The dude can flat out PLAY, but the monochromatic singing just doesn't suit that song at ALL.

I can't say who, but I'm doing a review of another really, REALLY good guitar player (well known for his time in two bigtime hard rock/melodic rock acts) and his album is 10 songs of just insane, top flight melodic rock guitar work/composition, but he's got a singer - two of them actually - that are well known on this board and yet... almost every time there are vocals, the songs veer into "blow chunks" territory.  Not quite, but close.

No, not Glenn's brother.  Yeah, I was impressed with the guitar work, musically it is very interesting but the song for me was shit.

Interested who you may be referring to also.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 20, 2021, 02:44:57 PM
My money is on Ted Nugent
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 20, 2021, 03:35:43 PM
It's Joel Hoekstra (Night Ranger/Whitesnake) featuring Russel Allen and JSS (bk vox).
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on January 21, 2021, 12:17:44 AM
Gary Hughes, what the fucking fuck is this shit.

https://youtu.be/WAgwrHdrvYA

Fuck me.

It's finally happened....Country Prog.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 21, 2021, 02:20:19 AM
Gary Hughes, what the fucking fuck is this shit.

https://youtu.be/WAgwrHdrvYA

Fuck me.

To be fair , this is not inconsistent with his early days where his solo releases (both before and after the formation of Ten) were fairly sappy stuff for the most part.

Somehow he seems to save his best production for these efforts (and the Catley stuff) while many of the Ten albums sound like they were recorded in an outdoor dunny.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2021, 04:13:34 AM
Gary Hughes, what the fucking fuck is this shit.

https://youtu.be/WAgwrHdrvYA

Fuck me.

To be fair , this is not inconsistent with his early days where his solo releases (both before and after the formation of Ten) were fairly sappy stuff for the most part.

Somehow he seems to save his best production for these efforts (and the Catley stuff) while many of the Ten albums sound like they were recorded in an outdoor dunny.

Good to know.  The only ones I have are the two Future King albums and Veritas which are all quite good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 21, 2021, 04:18:53 AM
I forgot about Once and Future King , but yeah.............when I think Gary solo albums I am thinking of stuff like Precious Ones.  Quality stuff for the most part but very much on the wimpy side.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 21, 2021, 04:37:21 AM
I forgot about Once and Future King , but yeah.............when I think Gary solo albums I am thinking of stuff like Precious Ones.  Quality stuff for the most part but very much on the wimpy side.

Yeah, never checked the early ones out.  I'll check them one day.

I did really enjoy Veritas from 2007.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2021, 10:23:00 AM
Quote from: My Inbox
Multinational Melodic Hard Rockers Eden's Curse have reformed and have begun working on their sixth studio album, the follow up to 2016's 'Cardinal'.

Founding member and bassist, Paul Logue, who was recently identified as the unnamed Scottish musician working with James LaBrie of Dream Theater on his upcoming new Acoustic Solo album, made the announcement last weekend during a Facebook Live session commemorating the band's 15th anniversary.

After almost two years apart, Logue commented on why ​the band decided to reform now: "There were some things in my personal life that required my undivided attention, coupled with the state of the current music scene that forced us to call it a day. However, what shone through during our time away and really pulled us back in was the love that our dedicated fan base still held for the band and our music. It really humbled us.

Logue went onto add "The camaraderie in the band is second to none, we really missed each others company and making music together. So it was inevitable when we all spoke to each other that we all wanted to get back together".

Joining bassist Logue are Serbian vocalist Nikola Mijic, German virtuoso guitarist and original member Thorsten Koehne, Scottish drummer John Clelland and Finnish keyboard maestro Christian 'Chrism' Pulkkinen, ensuring the Cardinal line-up returns in its entirety. It will be the first time Edens Curse have retained the same line-up since 2008s The Second Coming release.

Its been well documented that we have been through several line-up changes over the years, which happens to most bands. But some stability will do us no harm at all and its testament (no pun intended) to how well we get on and respect each others role in the band. Edens Curse has never been, or will ever be, all about one person. It is the sum of all parts. We are thrilled to be back and cannot wait to get to work on the new album said Logue.

He also confirmed that he is reaching the final stages of production on the acoustic album with James LaBrie, in which he is also joined by Edens Curse keyboard player Chrism. He will concentrate on finishing that record before writing begins in earnest for album number six. I have several basic music ideas, song titles and lyrical ideas, which are popping into my head continuously and being recorded for later use Logue added.

Hopefully it's better than Cardinal - that was shyte.  Symphony of Sin was excellent.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on January 23, 2021, 10:41:33 AM
For the record, I don't think Issa is ugly, and her voice deserves better songwriting. That song was the most Frontiers song that ever Frontiered.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ozzy554 on January 23, 2021, 10:44:24 AM
just in case you missed any album releases this month https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6TDH-gWDzA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6TDH-gWDzA)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on January 23, 2021, 01:59:19 PM
I wanted to get in on the Frontiers bashing as the new Phantom Elite album arrived yesterday but, alas, there is not an Italian name to be found anywhere in the credits. Sander Gommans is the Executive Producer and everyone seems to be Dutch or German, sans Marina who is Brazilian.

Plus, it's a really good album.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 23, 2021, 05:14:10 PM
I wanted to get in on the Frontiers bashing as the new Phantom Elite album arrived yesterday but, alas, there is not an Italian name to be found anywhere in the credits. Sander Gommans is the Executive Producer and everyone seems to be Dutch or German, sans Marina who is Brazilian.

Plus, it's a really good album.

I heard a bit of their stuff a while back and yeah...........sounds like a band rather than a project.   Muddy production as is to be expected these days and I would've picked Sander's influence even if I didn't know he was in the band.   There's a stong undercurrent of After Forever , which is a good thing for me.   Marina is no Floor Jansen but very good nonetheless.  I will certainly check it out if/when I get time.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 24, 2021, 03:24:27 AM
Hopefully it's better than Cardinal - that was shyte.  Symphony of Sin was excellent.

I can't agree with this statement enough.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 25, 2021, 01:22:09 PM
First single from Magnus' metal opera album -  Into The Unknown" feat. Noora Louhimo (https://youtu.be/fN8aWM66T)

meh... MK's getting stale.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 25, 2021, 04:52:42 PM
Hmmm...I actually quite liked that surprisingly.  Better than I expected.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 26, 2021, 06:42:45 AM
Hmmm...I actually quite liked that surprisingly.  Better than I expected.

Colour me surprised
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on January 27, 2021, 06:25:33 PM
I liked it too. Not sure how much replayability it has but I'm interested in hearing the rest of the album.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 27, 2021, 07:45:23 PM
I liked it too. Not sure how much replayability it has but I'm interested in hearing the rest of the album.

Same.  I totally wrote it off because of the female only thing but I'll give it a good shot.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 28, 2021, 04:43:54 AM
I wasn't even going to bother and you guys convinced me...............video unavailable  ::) :D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2021, 04:50:28 AM
I wasn't even going to bother and you guys convinced me...............video unavailable  ::) :D

That's weird, just checked and still works for me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 28, 2021, 04:52:53 AM
I wasn't even going to bother and you guys convinced me...............video unavailable  ::) :D

That's weird, just checked and still works for me.

Definitely not available to me.  Who knows? ................Google are in a big fight with the Aussie government and word is they are blocking various things just to let you know they can.  Maybe I am copping one of those situations.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2021, 05:00:15 AM
I wasn't even going to bother and you guys convinced me...............video unavailable  ::) :D

That's weird, just checked and still works for me.

Definitely not available to me.  Who knows? ................Google are in a big fight with the Aussie government and word is they are blocking various things just to let you know they can.  Maybe I am copping one of those situations.

Maybe doing you a favour then mate.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MinistroRaven on February 05, 2021, 11:59:51 AM
Nathan James from INGLORIOUS interview here:

https://www.sonicperspectives.com/interviews/interview-with-nathan-james/
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: gazinwales on February 05, 2021, 07:49:47 PM
I wasn't even going to bother and you guys convinced me...............video unavailable  ::) :D

Yeah same for me too...
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 11, 2021, 02:50:49 PM
Confession time - I like the new Issa track 😳

https://youtu.be/QyaP3FI6XNU
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on February 11, 2021, 06:38:32 PM
Confession time - I like the new Issa track 😳

https://youtu.be/QyaP3FI6XNU

The Covid will wear off...
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 12, 2021, 03:36:03 AM
One of her better vocals but I can understand why that guy was desperately looking for a way out of that video - it was fucking awful  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on February 12, 2021, 03:51:39 AM
Issa desperately needs better songwriters.

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2021, 04:08:41 AM
Fuck, do I have to watch this?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on February 12, 2021, 04:18:05 AM
I know it's a style, the AOR sound, but why does it sound like there's one guy, John Frontier writing all this stuff?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2021, 04:34:09 AM
I know it's a style, the AOR sound, but why does it sound like there's one guy, John Frontier writing all this stuff?

His name isn't John Frontier, it's Alessandro Del Vicchio.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2021, 04:36:34 AM
The new Sunstorm song is a piece of shit and rips off Wild One from Dio.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2021, 04:40:53 AM
Confession time - I like the new Issa track 😳

https://youtu.be/QyaP3FI6XNU

You still crook Paul?

This is also a piece of shit.  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: goo-goo on February 12, 2021, 06:43:57 AM
Anyone listened to the new Joel Hokstra album? Russell Allen on vocals. I'm on the first spin and it's ok. I wished Russell sang like this with Symphony X.

Joel Hoekstra (Whitesnake) - guitars, backing vocals
Jeff Scott Soto (Journey/Yngwie Malmsteen) - lead vocals, backing vocals
Russell Allen (Adrenaline Mob/Symphony X) - lead vocals, backing vocals
Vinny Appice (Black Sabbath/Dio) - drums
Tony Franklin (The Firm/Blue Murder) - bass

special guest musicians:
Derek Sherinian (Dream Theater/Black Country Communion) - keyboards
Chloe Lowery (Trans Siberian Orchestra) - vocals
Toby Hitchcock (Pride of Lions) - additional backing vocals
Charlie Zeleny (Joe Lynn Turner) - percussion
Dave Eggar (Amy Lee/Coldplay) - cello
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on February 12, 2021, 07:02:36 AM
Anyone listened to the new Joel Hokstra album? Russell Allen on vocals. I'm on the first spin and it's ok. I wished Russell sang like this with Symphony X.

Joel Hoekstra (Whitesnake) - guitars, backing vocals
Jeff Scott Soto (Journey/Yngwie Malmsteen) - lead vocals, backing vocals
Russell Allen (Adrenaline Mob/Symphony X) - lead vocals, backing vocals
Vinny Appice (Black Sabbath/Dio) - drums
Tony Franklin (The Firm/Blue Murder) - bass

special guest musicians:
Derek Sherinian (Dream Theater/Black Country Communion) - keyboards
Chloe Lowery (Trans Siberian Orchestra) - vocals
Toby Hitchcock (Pride of Lions) - additional backing vocals
Charlie Zeleny (Joe Lynn Turner) - percussion
Dave Eggar (Amy Lee/Coldplay) - cello

I wrote a review of it around here someplace.  Wait, here (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56166.msg2747495#new).   Joel is a beast, but I could do without Russell Allen.  To me, he brings the record down.   The best song - "How Do You" - is the one where he DOESN'T use that generic gritty hard rock voice (the same one that Jeff uses on Sons Of Apollo). 

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 12, 2021, 07:33:30 AM
Ooohh... I didn't realize this dropped today.  I may have to go back a letter in my alphabet listening plan for the month of February!   :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on February 12, 2021, 08:52:20 AM
I know it's a style, the AOR sound, but why does it sound like there's one guy, John Frontier writing all this stuff?

His name isn't John Frontier, it's Alessandro Del Vicchio.

I was waiting for a punchline, like the name was something unrelated, but holy shit, he's Mr. Frontier.

I see he has no involvement with The Magnificient though.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: goo-goo on February 12, 2021, 11:50:25 AM
Anyone listened to the new Joel Hokstra album? Russell Allen on vocals. I'm on the first spin and it's ok. I wished Russell sang like this with Symphony X.

Joel Hoekstra (Whitesnake) - guitars, backing vocals
Jeff Scott Soto (Journey/Yngwie Malmsteen) - lead vocals, backing vocals
Russell Allen (Adrenaline Mob/Symphony X) - lead vocals, backing vocals
Vinny Appice (Black Sabbath/Dio) - drums
Tony Franklin (The Firm/Blue Murder) - bass

special guest musicians:
Derek Sherinian (Dream Theater/Black Country Communion) - keyboards
Chloe Lowery (Trans Siberian Orchestra) - vocals
Toby Hitchcock (Pride of Lions) - additional backing vocals
Charlie Zeleny (Joe Lynn Turner) - percussion
Dave Eggar (Amy Lee/Coldplay) - cello

I wrote a review of it around here someplace.  Wait, here (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56166.msg2747495#new).   Joel is a beast, but I could do without Russell Allen.  To me, he brings the record down.   The best song - "How Do You" - is the one where he DOESN'T use that generic gritty hard rock voice (the same one that Jeff uses on Sons Of Apollo).

Nice write up Stads!  :tup

By the way, you got to check out Chloe Lowery (Trans Siberian Orchestra). It's an amazing album (pop oriented).



Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on February 12, 2021, 12:54:57 PM
Anyone listened to the new Joel Hokstra album? Russell Allen on vocals. I'm on the first spin and it's ok. I wished Russell sang like this with Symphony X.

Joel Hoekstra (Whitesnake) - guitars, backing vocals
Jeff Scott Soto (Journey/Yngwie Malmsteen) - lead vocals, backing vocals
Russell Allen (Adrenaline Mob/Symphony X) - lead vocals, backing vocals
Vinny Appice (Black Sabbath/Dio) - drums
Tony Franklin (The Firm/Blue Murder) - bass

special guest musicians:
Derek Sherinian (Dream Theater/Black Country Communion) - keyboards
Chloe Lowery (Trans Siberian Orchestra) - vocals
Toby Hitchcock (Pride of Lions) - additional backing vocals
Charlie Zeleny (Joe Lynn Turner) - percussion
Dave Eggar (Amy Lee/Coldplay) - cello

I wrote a review of it around here someplace.  Wait, here (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56166.msg2747495#new).   Joel is a beast, but I could do without Russell Allen.  To me, he brings the record down.   The best song - "How Do You" - is the one where he DOESN'T use that generic gritty hard rock voice (the same one that Jeff uses on Sons Of Apollo).

Nice write up Stads!  :tup

By the way, you got to check out Chloe Lowery (Trans Siberian Orchestra). It's an amazing album (pop oriented).

Is it possible I saw her open for Myles Kennedy when he did his solo shows?   I think it was her; Al Pitrelli was playing guitar for her.  If so, she was really really good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2021, 04:26:32 PM
I know it's a style, the AOR sound, but why does it sound like there's one guy, John Frontier writing all this stuff?

His name isn't John Frontier, it's Alessandro Del Vicchio.

I was waiting for a punchline, like the name was something unrelated, but holy shit, he's Mr. Frontier.

I see he has no involvement with The Magnificient though.

That's why it's so fucking good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bluefox4000 on February 12, 2021, 05:03:22 PM
Wow there's a thread here for people like me.

i adore prog, Metal and the like as much as anybody (as i sit here Blackwater Park is blasting)

but uh........Yea AOR is my fav genre, lol

Toto
Journey
Night flight Orchestra (check these guys out)
Foreigner (they became an AOR band with IV)
Survivor
Work Of art (modern AOR band)
Boston
80's heart
Strangeways

and on and on and on.  oh i eat this stuff up, lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on February 12, 2021, 05:06:09 PM
I think I need to dig in to NFO.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bluefox4000 on February 12, 2021, 05:11:16 PM
I think I need to dig in to NFO.

Start with their debut Internal Affairs.  it's toto mixed with boston foreigner and a dash of Heart in there.

oh such a great debut
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Snow Dog on February 12, 2021, 09:53:05 PM
NFO have probably been my favorite musical discovery in the last ten years (Earthside would probably take that spot if theyd release another friggin album, but I digress). Quite consistent through their catalogue, though a couple records dont quite have that same zing.  Internal Affairs is indeed a great debut, and still contains my favorite song of theirs in West Ruth Ave. Amber Galactic is near perfect, and Ive listened a shit ton to Aeromantic since its release.

Theyre fun. Theyre catchy. Theyre completely unexpected out of left field, being made up of members from the melodic death metal scene. Theyre fantastic.

A couple samples:
West Ruth Ave.
https://youtu.be/DE99mc_ubHc

Divinyls
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEouLkiLHdSCl7jMTBIre9Mp-_En8fNxm


Oh, and Frontiers sucks and Issa is a bitch. Am I doing it right? :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 12, 2021, 10:30:30 PM
You'll fit right in here Snow Dog.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on February 13, 2021, 04:01:20 AM
I know it's a style, the AOR sound, but why does it sound like there's one guy, John Frontier writing all this stuff?

His name isn't John Frontier, it's Alessandro Del Vicchio.

I was waiting for a punchline, like the name was something unrelated, but holy shit, he's Mr. Frontier.

I see he has no involvement with The Magnificient though.

That's why it's so fucking good.

My point exactly. Hopeful The Revival is just as good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2021, 05:32:04 AM
I know it's a style, the AOR sound, but why does it sound like there's one guy, John Frontier writing all this stuff?

His name isn't John Frontier, it's Alessandro Del Vicchio.

I was waiting for a punchline, like the name was something unrelated, but holy shit, he's Mr. Frontier.

I see he has no involvement with The Magnificient though.

That's why it's so fucking good.

My point exactly. Hopeful The Revival is just as good.

Wait what?!  They are finally doing another album?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 13, 2021, 05:58:51 AM
I know it's a style, the AOR sound, but why does it sound like there's one guy, John Frontier writing all this stuff?

His name isn't John Frontier, it's Alessandro Del Vicchio.

I was waiting for a punchline, like the name was something unrelated, but holy shit, he's Mr. Frontier.

I see he has no involvement with The Magnificient though.

That's why it's so fucking good.

My point exactly. Hopeful The Revival is just as good.

Wait what?!  They are finally doing another album?

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F1044.gif&hash=5c6a6656c780ec8a3cc884c0aa468d0e2e4adcdb)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on February 13, 2021, 07:56:59 AM
The Revival is a new band featuring Michael Eriksen, and they're taking their sweet ass time.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 13, 2021, 09:03:47 AM
The Revival is a new band featuring Michael Eriksen, and they're taking their sweet ass time.

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F774.gif&hash=300a04f18eb00aaf3126334c115c53a08643f109)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 13, 2021, 01:19:45 PM
The Revival is a new band featuring Michael Eriksen, and they're taking their sweet ass time.

Ah ok.  Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Big Hath on February 22, 2021, 09:56:48 PM
thought I would use this thread to occasionally highlight a song in that every once in a while catches me the right way.

Tonight it's Eclipse with A Bitter Taste from the 2012 album Bleed and Scream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CByya52eDH0


It catches an epic vibe you don't get with a lot of the songs in the genre.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2021, 04:22:12 AM
That album is absolutely unreal, great song pick too.  Haven't listened to it in a long time.  A shame the band is so average now as that album is top notch.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 23, 2021, 05:23:32 AM
That album is absolutely unreal, great song pick too.  Haven't listened to it in a long time.  A shame the band is so average now as that album is top notch.

All of this is completely accurate.  This and Are You Ready to Rock are simply top notch - the goodness of what Frontiers used to be.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ozzy554 on February 25, 2021, 04:33:33 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/robin-mcauley-to-release-standing-on-the-edge-solo-album-in-may/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/robin-mcauley-to-release-standing-on-the-edge-solo-album-in-may/)

Another project co-written and produced by Alessandro Del Vecchio incoming.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 25, 2021, 04:39:51 PM
At The Movies - I Am The One And Only (https://youtu.be/9x2ocVetmSA)

Their been pumping out the soundtrack of my life for the last couple of months.

She has some great pipes!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 25, 2021, 06:12:02 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/robin-mcauley-to-release-standing-on-the-edge-solo-album-in-may/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/robin-mcauley-to-release-standing-on-the-edge-solo-album-in-may/)

Another project co-written and produced by Alessandro Del Vecchio incoming.

Fuck me dead!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on February 25, 2021, 07:48:35 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/robin-mcauley-to-release-standing-on-the-edge-solo-album-in-may/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/robin-mcauley-to-release-standing-on-the-edge-solo-album-in-may/)

Another project co-written and produced by Alessandro Del Vecchio incoming.

Fuck me dead!


While certainly tempting, I'd probably let you die in peace, but checking out the title track, and Robin sounds fucking spectacular.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 25, 2021, 09:50:34 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/robin-mcauley-to-release-standing-on-the-edge-solo-album-in-may/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/robin-mcauley-to-release-standing-on-the-edge-solo-album-in-may/)

Another project co-written and produced by Alessandro Del Vecchio incoming.

Fuck me dead!

 Robin sounds fucking spectacular.



He does sound good.  Sounds like a Save Yourself style single................but boy that guitarist isn't half trying to sound like George Lynch in the distorted tones.  ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXlp_H4fDco&t=0s
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2021, 01:04:59 AM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/robin-mcauley-to-release-standing-on-the-edge-solo-album-in-may/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/robin-mcauley-to-release-standing-on-the-edge-solo-album-in-may/)

Another project co-written and produced by Alessandro Del Vecchio incoming.

Fuck me dead!


While certainly tempting, I'd probably let you die in peace, but checking out the title track, and Robin sounds fucking spectacular.

Haha, I'll check later.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 26, 2021, 04:32:09 AM
The song was meh for me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 27, 2021, 08:21:40 AM
At The Movies - I Am The One And Only (https://youtu.be/9x2ocVetmSA)

Their been pumping out the soundtrack of my life for the last couple of months.

She has some great pipes!

Ive loved everything they've put out. Took me back to some guilty pleasures
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bluefox4000 on February 27, 2021, 09:06:40 AM
Gotta say i'm really loving Steve Lukather's neal album.  it has a very early 70's Toto feel to me.

been playing it on a loop pretty much.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 03, 2021, 12:44:08 PM
https://youtu.be/jpdsAiHuUe8

Frontiers supergroup - not bad but Im getting tired of songs that start off with a banging riff then it all drops out for a quiet verse.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2021, 01:09:58 PM
https://youtu.be/jpdsAiHuUe8

Frontiers supergroup - not bad but Im getting tired of songs that start off with a banging riff then it all drops out for a quiet verse.

I don't even thing the finger-quote version of supergroup is applicable here.  I mean, I recognize 3/4 of the bands, but wouldn't know those names if my life depended on it.  Not a bad tune.  Sounds like Eclipse and The Poodles had a romp in the hay.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on March 03, 2021, 01:14:16 PM
https://youtu.be/jpdsAiHuUe8

Frontiers supergroup - not bad but Im getting tired of songs that start off with a banging riff then it all drops out for a quiet verse.

I don't even thing the finger-quote version of supergroup is applicable here.  I mean, I recognize 3/4 of the bands, but wouldn't know those names if my life depended on it.  Not a bad tune.  Sounds like Eclipse and The Poodles had a romp in the hay.

HAHA, I was going to say the same thing, but I figured I should hold my tongue.  If that's a supergroup, then TAC, King Chino and I better get some product out there, because we'd qualify too.   :)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2021, 01:25:30 PM
https://youtu.be/jpdsAiHuUe8

Frontiers supergroup - not bad but Im getting tired of songs that start off with a banging riff then it all drops out for a quiet verse.

Supergroup  :lol

I thought that song was pretty good though truthfully.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 03, 2021, 01:52:15 PM
Everything that has members from other bands is a supergroup nowadays. How well known those members are isn't important.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 03, 2021, 02:36:01 PM
Everything that has members from other bands is a supergroup nowadays. How well known those members are isn't important.

I think "Super" must mean something different in Italian then.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 03, 2021, 02:49:41 PM
https://youtu.be/jpdsAiHuUe8

Frontiers supergroup - not bad but Im getting tired of songs that start off with a banging riff then it all drops out for a quiet verse.

Supergroup  :lol

I thought that song was pretty good though truthfully.


I thought it was alright yeah -  seriously sounds like one band I am struggling to put my finger on but certainly some Dynazty in there.

John Leven would be deserving of being part of a supergroup but the others........yeah  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 03, 2021, 02:56:08 PM
https://youtu.be/jpdsAiHuUe8

Frontiers supergroup - not bad but Im getting tired of songs that start off with a banging riff then it all drops out for a quiet verse.

Supergroup  :lol

I thought that song was pretty good though truthfully.


I thought it was alright yeah -  seriously sounds like one band I am struggling to put my finger on but certainly some Dynazty in there.

John Leven would be deserving of being part of a supergroup but the others........yeah  :lol

Having Love from Dynazty was nice to hear in the solo.  Both Dynazty boys are no slouches.  You can hear HEAT in there also.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 04, 2021, 12:57:24 PM
Talking of HEAT, I cant take the new/original singer. Theres a vid of him singing a song from the last album. Something about him puts me off.

https://youtu.be/OPEG3uzJSeA
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2021, 01:02:11 PM
Talking of HEAT, I cant take the new/original singer. Theres a vid of him singing a song from the last album. Something about him puts me off.

https://youtu.be/OPEG3uzJSeA

Suspenders for start.  He's trying to look like No Prayer era Dickinson too.  He looks short, seems like he has little man syndrome.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 04, 2021, 01:03:32 PM
Talking of HEAT, I cant take the new/original singer. Theres a vid of him singing a song from the last album. Something about him puts me off.

https://youtu.be/OPEG3uzJSeA

Suspenders for start.  He's trying to look like No Prayer era Dickinson too.  He looks short, seems like he has little man syndrome.

My mate has a theory that most rock singers are short arses, and I think hes on to something 😁. Little man syndrome.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2021, 01:11:59 PM
Yeah, I reckon a majority are short more often than not also lol.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 04, 2021, 01:32:58 PM
You can tell he's a short fuck, the keyboard behind him is almost as tall as he is.  Plus, the microphone filter is as big as his head.  Dude's a fucking Hobbitt!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2021, 01:41:04 PM
You can tell he's a short fuck, the keyboard behind him is almost as tall as he is.  Plus, the microphone filter is as big as his head.  Dude's a fucking Hobbitt!

 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on March 04, 2021, 02:15:23 PM
You guys are brutal.  Yuo're not wrong, mind you, but still.  Brutal.   

(And just because a friend was asking, what's the height requirement for not being a hobbit?  :) )

EDIT:  Since I'm not above a little shade myself, in this video (https://youtu.be/uPDzysfmyv4), he's like a full head shorter than the two guitar players.    And there's this (https://youtu.be/T5ae-07_dIs).  Not that bad, actually, but I got tired of the little half smile after every high note, like "yeah, bitches.  NAILED it!  DM, me, babes!"   There were, to my eyes, a LOT of edits to that piece, too.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2021, 02:30:44 PM
 :lol

I wanna punch this guy in the face now the more we talk about him.  Paul ain't wrong, fucking annoying twat.  If you look up little man syndrome in the dictionary, this mugs face should be there, front and centre.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 04, 2021, 02:47:41 PM
And there's this (https://youtu.be/T5ae-07_dIs).  Not that bad, actually, but I got tired of the little half smile after every high note, like "yeah, bitches.  NAILED it!  DM, me, babes!"   There were, to my eyes, a LOT of edits to that piece, too.

Bill... tell your friend, it's 5'6"  :rollin

Anywhoo, regarding that Journey cover, you ain't wrong.  It's like the guy is turning himself on.  And that guitar looks yuge on him.  I'm surprised he can strum and reach the low notes on the neck at the same time!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on March 04, 2021, 02:49:16 PM
And there's this (https://youtu.be/T5ae-07_dIs).  Not that bad, actually, but I got tired of the little half smile after every high note, like "yeah, bitches.  NAILED it!  DM, me, babes!"   There were, to my eyes, a LOT of edits to that piece, too.

Bill... tell your friend, it's 5'6"  :rollin

Anywhoo, regarding that Journey cover, you ain't wrong.  It's like the guy is turning himself on.  And that guitar looks yuge on him.  I'm surprised he can strum and reach the low notes on the neck at the same time!

Since my friend is 5'7" in his stocking feet, he's happy!  :) :)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2021, 02:49:50 PM
And there's this (https://youtu.be/T5ae-07_dIs).  Not that bad, actually, but I got tired of the little half smile after every high note, like "yeah, bitches.  NAILED it!  DM, me, babes!"   There were, to my eyes, a LOT of edits to that piece, too.

Bill... tell your friend, it's 5'6"  :rollin

Anywhoo, regarding that Journey cover, you ain't wrong.  It's like the guy is turning himself on.  And that guitar looks yuge on him.  I'm surprised he can strum and reach the low notes on the neck at the same time!

 :rollin  This is brilliant.....(cause we're tall)  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 04, 2021, 02:50:10 PM
And there's this (https://youtu.be/T5ae-07_dIs).  Not that bad, actually, but I got tired of the little half smile after every high note, like "yeah, bitches.  NAILED it!  DM, me, babes!"   There were, to my eyes, a LOT of edits to that piece, too.

Bill... tell your friend, it's 5'6"  :rollin

Anywhoo, regarding that Journey cover, you ain't wrong.  It's like the guy is turning himself on.  And that guitar looks yuge on him.  I'm surprised he can strum and reach the low notes on the neck at the same time!

Since my friend is 5'7" in his stocking feet, he's happy!  :) :)

He's dodged a bullet there.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 04, 2021, 03:03:19 PM
:lol

I wanna punch this guy in the face now the more we talk about him.  Paul ain't wrong, fucking annoying twat.  If you look up little man syndrome in the dictionary, this mugs face should be there, front and centre.

Yeah its what I was feeling. Annoying.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on March 04, 2021, 08:04:47 PM
Talking of HEAT, I cant take the new/original singer. Theres a vid of him singing a song from the last album. Something about him puts me off.

https://youtu.be/OPEG3uzJSeA

Suspenders for start.  He's trying to look like No Prayer era Dickinson too.  He looks short, seems like he has little man syndrome.

The dude thinks he's in Footloose.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 05, 2021, 04:54:20 AM
Awesome vid  :lol   :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY5X748vG1U


80's cheese aside that's a very well produced song.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 05, 2021, 06:11:12 AM
:umno:

Just no. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 05, 2021, 08:01:06 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 05, 2021, 12:47:54 PM
Awesome vid  :lol   :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY5X748vG1U


80's cheese aside that's a very well produced song.
Was just about to post, so much yes from me!  :metal :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 06, 2021, 09:42:29 AM
Awesome vid  :lol   :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY5X748vG1U


80's cheese aside that's a very well produced song.
Was just about to post, so much yes from me!  :metal :lol

Apart from the totally cliched riff, that was great! 😁😁😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 06, 2021, 01:25:19 PM
Awesome vid  :lol   :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY5X748vG1U


80's cheese aside that's a very well produced song.

Who are these guys?  That was actually really excellent.  Wonderful vocals.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 06, 2021, 05:43:30 PM
Sounds really good to me
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on March 06, 2021, 06:11:46 PM
I think I like about 1% of the music posted in this thread.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on March 06, 2021, 06:21:25 PM
I think I like about 1% of the music posted in this thread.

Call the police!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 06, 2021, 10:54:07 PM
I think I like about 1% of the music posted in this thread.

Call the police!

Or an ambulance.   Only 1% softcock is dangerously low.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 07, 2021, 11:00:38 AM
I think I like about 1% of the music posted in this thread.

So do we to be fair! 😁😁😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 07, 2021, 01:11:26 PM
I think I like about 1% of the music posted in this thread.

So do we to be fair! 😁😁😁

It's sadly getting that way hey.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on March 08, 2021, 05:48:56 PM
I'm curious to find out what you guys think of the new Sunstorm with Ronnie Romero replacing Joe Lynn Turner. I like the album a lot!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 08, 2021, 05:52:46 PM
I'm curious to find out what you guys think of the new Sunstorm with Ronnie Romero replacing Joe Lynn Turner. I like the album a lot!

Only heard the two songs released as videos but I thought they were shit.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on March 08, 2021, 05:55:20 PM
 I liked it. And I know the first single sounds exactly like Wild One from Dio. There are some great vocal melodies on the album though. I get that the old time fans are upset that JLT left, and the sound has certainly changed. But I didn't know the history of the band, and listening to this album as a stand alone, I like it a lot.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2021, 04:32:57 AM
I liked it. And I know the first single sounds exactly like Wild One from Dio. There are some great vocal melodies on the album though. I get that the old time fans are upset that JLT left, and the sound has certainly changed. But I didn't know the history of the band, and listening to this album as a stand alone, I like it a lot.

Fair enough.  I've been a fan since the second album, so this whole thing just doesn't sit with me well.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on March 09, 2021, 05:04:12 AM
In fairness, I listened to a song or two of the previous Sunrunner albums after the whole controversy started, and yes, they sound nothing like the new one. So I understand the frustration. Maybe they should have renamed the band...or started a new band altogether! We all know Frontiers has no problem doing that...
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2021, 01:21:49 PM
In fairness, I listened to a song or two of the previous Sunrunner albums after the whole controversy started, and yes, they sound nothing like the new one. So I understand the frustration. Maybe they should have renamed the band...or started a new band altogether! We all know Frontiers has no problem doing that...

That's what I believe they should have done for sure mate.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on March 09, 2021, 01:47:22 PM
One day I plan on interviewing Serafino Perugino, the owner of Frontiers.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 14, 2021, 05:21:59 AM
Got halfway through the Magnus Karlsson and I've never said this about one of his albums before, but this is fucking dreadful.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 14, 2021, 06:05:54 AM
Got halfway through the Magnus Karlsson and I've never said this about one of his albums before, but this is fucking dreadful.

I hit halfway through and had enjoyed it as something different from him. I think Id have preferred a male singer or two in there to break it up a bit.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 14, 2021, 07:17:13 AM
Got halfway through the Magnus Karlsson and I've never said this about one of his albums before, but this is fucking dreadful.

Welp.  I got a lot of new releases to catch up on, so it'll be a few days before I hit this one.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on March 14, 2021, 10:11:39 AM
The worst part about Heart Healer is the lyrics. The singing and music is good, but the lyrics and melodies aren't cutting it. It reminds me of Genius.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Big Hath on March 15, 2021, 03:57:52 PM
next entry in the "songs I want to highlight in this thread because I don't want to start another thread to do it" series:

Biloxi - Far From Home (link is for the whole album, but it should start at 17:53)

https://youtu.be/RhYeEDQTcvA?t=1073

From their 2002 album Right The Music.  Nothing will really knock your socks off with this track, but it has nice heavy guitars, cool chord voicings and progressions, etc.  Also has that cool atmospheric intro then drums/bass come in, then guitars, that I enjoy in this genre.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2021, 04:20:12 PM
next entry in the "songs I want to highlight in this thread because I don't want to start another thread to do it" series:

Biloxi - Far From Home (link is for the whole album, but it should start at 17:53)

https://youtu.be/RhYeEDQTcvA?t=1073

From their 2002 album Right The Music.  Nothing will really knock your socks off with this track, but it has nice heavy guitars, cool chord voicings and progressions, etc.  Also has that cool atmospheric intro then drums/bass come in, then guitars, that I enjoy in this genre.

Wow, this was really good!  Might have to check the whole album, smooth stuff.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 15, 2021, 04:21:46 PM
The worst part about Heart Healer is the lyrics. The singing and music is good, but the lyrics and melodies aren't cutting it. It reminds me of Genius.

Well, Genius isn't bad at all... if not for the spoken parts, I'd rate pretty much all of it between reasonably good, and most excellent.

@ Jon... Spotify has In the Wake of the Storm up there.  That any good?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Big Hath on March 15, 2021, 04:48:07 PM
@ Jon... Spotify has In the Wake of the Storm up there.  That any good?

honestly not sure.  I only have Let The Games Begin and Right The Music.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 15, 2021, 05:14:20 PM
My memory of Biloxi is a quality band (worth checking out)  but also plenty of filler.   Pretty sure I played a song off their debut in a hard rock rarities podcast (in the B's) - probably Run For Your Life- but good to see them get a mention in here.   Moon Doc in the album thread :metal   Hath is keeping the flame burning for these super obscure bands
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2021, 05:40:49 PM
My memory of Biloxi is a quality band (worth checking out)  but also plenty of filler.   Pretty sure I played a song off their debut in a hard rock rarities podcast (in the B's) - probably Run For Your Life- but good to see them get a mention in here.   Moon Doc in the album thread :metal   Hath is keeping the flame burning for these super obscure bands

He's giving you a run for your money Brent lol!

Jon sent me a Moon'Doc song in my first roulette I think it was.  Watching Your Way.  Still probably one of the 3 best songs I've ever been sent in a roulette.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on March 15, 2021, 07:03:45 PM
The worst part about Heart Healer is the lyrics. The singing and music is good, but the lyrics and melodies aren't cutting it. It reminds me of Genius.

Well, Genius isn't bad at all... if not for the spoken parts, I'd rate pretty much all of it between reasonably good, and most excellent.

@ Jon... Spotify has In the Wake of the Storm up there.  That any good?

Here's an edit I did of He Will Die almost 10 years ago. Not to toot my own horn, but I think I greatly inproved the song.

https://youtu.be/wyTSlTWAo2s
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 15, 2021, 07:46:04 PM
My memory of Biloxi is a quality band (worth checking out)  but also plenty of filler.   Pretty sure I played a song off their debut in a hard rock rarities podcast (in the B's) - probably Run For Your Life- but good to see them get a mention in here.   Moon Doc in the album thread :metal   Hath is keeping the flame burning for these super obscure bands

He's giving you a run for your money Brent lol!

Jon sent me a Moon'Doc song in my first roulette I think it was.  Watching Your Way.  Still probably one of the 3 best songs I've ever been sent in a roulette.


......after I sent Moon'Doc to Jon in his roulette  :P  ;)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on March 15, 2021, 07:48:20 PM
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/o9ggk5IMcYlKE/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 15, 2021, 07:49:11 PM
My memory of Biloxi is a quality band (worth checking out)  but also plenty of filler.   Pretty sure I played a song off their debut in a hard rock rarities podcast (in the B's) - probably Run For Your Life- but good to see them get a mention in here.   Moon Doc in the album thread :metal   Hath is keeping the flame burning for these super obscure bands

He's giving you a run for your money Brent lol!

Jon sent me a Moon'Doc song in my first roulette I think it was.  Watching Your Way.  Still probably one of the 3 best songs I've ever been sent in a roulette.


......after I sent Moon'Doc to Jon in his roulette  :P   ;)

(https://i.gifer.com/5dC.gif)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 15, 2021, 07:54:27 PM
 :rollin

All in good humour.  The more people that hear this stuff the better , however it gets around.

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2021, 08:18:00 PM
My memory of Biloxi is a quality band (worth checking out)  but also plenty of filler.   Pretty sure I played a song off their debut in a hard rock rarities podcast (in the B's) - probably Run For Your Life- but good to see them get a mention in here.   Moon Doc in the album thread :metal   Hath is keeping the flame burning for these super obscure bands

He's giving you a run for your money Brent lol!

Jon sent me a Moon'Doc song in my first roulette I think it was.  Watching Your Way.  Still probably one of the 3 best songs I've ever been sent in a roulette.


......after I sent Moon'Doc to Jon in his roulette  :P  ;)

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforgifs.com%2Fgallery%2Fd%2F74852-5%2FExcited-fat-kid-wrestling-fan.gif&hash=0b248896b33c79ab5a4705e33ba78d590207e9ff)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 19, 2021, 06:09:31 PM
Just checking out the last W.E.T. album.........err.........it started out alright the first couple of songs but an absolute snoozefest once it hits halfway.  So disappointing.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 20, 2021, 08:00:41 AM
(https://www.grande-rock.com/sites/default/files/styles/head/public/imagesnews/Starmen-BytheGraceofRocknRoll-cover2021.jpg?itok=7g5oV75y)
Enjoyed this, very KISS, but bloody hell, Pleasure Dome doesnt only rip off one rock classic, but two. Immigrant Song and Deep Purples Hungry Daze 😱

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bd/Ayreon_-_Transitus.png)

(https://0dayrox.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/AT-THE-MOVIES-80s-Soundtracks-covers-CD-version-1-front.jpg)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/A175jCAvV8L._SS500_.jpg)

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 20, 2021, 08:06:19 AM
Bugger. posted in the wrong thread 😩
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 20, 2021, 02:02:54 PM
Genes lawyer has been alerted to the Starmen
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2021, 02:22:25 PM
The guy in the top right hand corner looks suspect as fuck.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 20, 2021, 02:23:18 PM
Bugger. posted in the wrong thread 😩

Looking at that Starmen cover, no the softcock thread is just right.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jjrock88 on March 20, 2021, 02:48:27 PM
The guy in the top right hand corner looks suspect as fuck.

 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 20, 2021, 03:00:53 PM
Genes lawyer has been alerted to the Starmen

Pauls should too because the singer has stolen his voice 😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on March 20, 2021, 05:44:27 PM
The guy in the top right hand corner looks suspect as fuck.

 :lol

 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 20, 2021, 08:20:32 PM
The guy in the top right hand corner looks suspect as fuck.

 :lol

 :lol

I've no doubt he has at least one ankle bracelet.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on March 20, 2021, 08:21:54 PM
I can't even believe that's an actual band.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2021, 04:25:36 AM
I can't even believe that's an actual band.

Same.  What the fuck are these guys thinking?!  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 21, 2021, 04:45:18 AM
I can't even believe that's an actual band.

Same.  What the fuck are these guys thinking?!  :lol

Im guessing with the guys voice being a dead ringer for Paul Stanley that they were probably a KISS cover band.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 21, 2021, 05:02:36 AM
The guy in the top right hand corner looks suspect as fuck.

 :lol

 :lol

I've no doubt he has at least one ankle bracelet.


Looks like he wants to blow you a kiss ...............or just ......... :lol

And the bloke bottom left looks like he could unleash some fooking fury or consume many donuts.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 21, 2021, 06:25:16 AM
I can't even believe that's an actual band.

Same.  What the fuck are these guys thinking?!  :lol

Give these guys an honest listen - and for the love of god, don't do it via any of their YT vids.  Seriously, put their image out of your mind, and listen with only your ears.  It's good shit.  Kiss reincarnated for sure.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 21, 2021, 06:27:45 AM
The guy in the top right hand corner looks suspect as fuck.

 :lol

 :lol

I've no doubt he has at least one ankle bracelet.


Looks like he wants to blow you a kiss ...............or just ......... :lol

And the bloke bottom left looks like he could unleash some fooking fury or consume many donuts.

 :lol

I can't even believe that's an actual band.

Same.  What the fuck are these guys thinking?!  :lol

Give these guys an honest listen - and for the love of god, don't do it via any of their YT vids.  Seriously, put their image out of your mind, and listen with only your ears.  It's good shit.  Kiss reincarnated for sure.

Nah, I'll just make fun of them.  :D

I will have a listen, I'm intrigued.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ozzy554 on March 21, 2021, 07:03:16 AM
Musically not bad at all. I know they're aiming for a KISS vibe but man they should really ditch the makeup as it does not look good on them at all.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 26, 2021, 01:43:55 AM
At The Movies - Heaven Is A Place On Earth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CudhaHdcqeA&ab_channel=AtTheMoviesOfficial)

Right in the feels!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on March 31, 2021, 09:12:17 AM
 Here's my interview with Ronnie Romero, one of Frontiers' wild cards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXe1zNnfkAw&t=5s
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 05, 2021, 05:25:47 AM
The Accept vibe from this song is strong - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gKveG46gGg

Naturally... Herbie L fronting the band.  Pretty decent shit.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 05, 2021, 05:39:07 AM
The Accept vibe from this song is strong - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gKveG46gGg

Naturally... Herbie L fronting the band.  Pretty decent shit.

Woah, not bad at all.  Too good for this thread, even thought this is on Frontiers haha.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 05, 2021, 06:16:24 AM
The Accept vibe from this song is strong - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gKveG46gGg

Naturally... Herbie L fronting the band.  Pretty decent shit.

Woah, not bad at all.  Too good for this thread, even thought this is on Frontiers haha.

Yeah... it showed up in my Spotify New Release playlist, and when I went to YT to grab a link to post here, I shat myself that it was on Frontiers.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 13, 2021, 01:41:14 PM
Well the reason for Erik leaving HEAT is out - hes been fighting lymphatic leukaemia

From his Facebook



We are with you brother! 💪♥️

#Repost @erikgronwall
・・・
Its time to let this one out in the open. I will try to make a long story as short as possible. ⠀⠀
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I am currently spending day 22 at the hospital in Sweden. About a month ago I was full of energy, capable of doing everything I normally do, business as usual.⠀⠀
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But then it appeared from nowhere. I started feeling exhausted, I had no energy to perform the simplest tasks and it was like I had run a marathon when I was just literally walking my dog for five minutes. Something wasnt right. So I took a few blood tests and... fast forward... now its the third week of my treatment against acute lymphocytic leukemia (ALL). ⠀⠀
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In medical terms this means that my bone marrow generates immature blood cells, rather than mature ones.⠀⠀
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Now. First and foremost. I am extremely privileged and grateful to live at a day and age where a disease like this is curable. Theres been so much progress made in this field. My body is reacting well to the treatment but its a long treatment and its going to be the toughest challenge of my life so far, for me and my family. Mentally and physically. ⠀⠀
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I have thought a lot about how to deal with this - both publicly and privately - and have decided to be completely transparent about it. During the treatment there will be good days and there will be bad days but I think its important that we can talk about, share and show our weak sides and bad days as well. After all life isnt always a super filter fluffy social media world. No Instagram filter can beautify this. ⠀⠀
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We dont always get to choose what happens to us, life is a lottery, but we can choose how we react to it. Well at least do our best to choose how. I am not promising frequent updates but when I do you will be seeing a new side of me if you stick around here. A more transparent side I assume. ⠀⠀
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If you want to be supportive just focus on HEALTH empowerment. I dont believe in fighting fire with fire, lets use water instead. Lets understand it and cure it. ⠀⠀
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Final note. I am doing well given the circumstances and Im ready to tackle this challenge the best I can.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 13, 2021, 02:48:37 PM
Wow, that's just awful.  He would be so young too.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 13, 2021, 07:50:55 PM
Sorry to hear this..................hope he recovers well.

Pretty sure this is unrelated to his departure from H.E.A.T. though - he mentions it came on suddenly a month ago and he's already been out for some time at that point.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 14, 2021, 12:35:16 AM
Sorry to hear this..................hope he recovers well.

Pretty sure this is unrelated to his departure from H.E.A.T. though - he mentions it came on suddenly a month ago and he's already been out for some time at that point.

True, I missed that bit I guess. Listening to HEAT at the moment. He has such a great voice.

One of my good friends died of this a few years ago. He went to hospital with a nose bleed that wouldnt stop and was dead 5 days later. Hopefully they can fix him he sounds confident.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 14, 2021, 05:03:41 AM
Sorry to hear this..................hope he recovers well.

Pretty sure this is unrelated to his departure from H.E.A.T. though - he mentions it came on suddenly a month ago and he's already been out for some time at that point.

True, I missed that bit I guess. Listening to HEAT at the moment. He has such a great voice.

One of my good friends died of this a few years ago. He went to hospital with a nose bleed that wouldnt stop and was dead 5 days later. Hopefully they can fix him he sounds confident.

Damn bro.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 14, 2021, 06:11:58 AM
Sorry to hear this..................hope he recovers well.

Pretty sure this is unrelated to his departure from H.E.A.T. though - he mentions it came on suddenly a month ago and he's already been out for some time at that point.

True, I missed that bit I guess. Listening to HEAT at the moment. He has such a great voice.

One of my good friends died of this a few years ago. He went to hospital with a nose bleed that wouldnt stop and was dead 5 days later. Hopefully they can fix him he sounds confident.

Damn bro.

Yeah, that's fuckin terrible.  Makes ya want to appreciate every day, that's for sure.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Big Hath on April 14, 2021, 12:42:58 PM
Sorry to hear this..................hope he recovers well.

Pretty sure this is unrelated to his departure from H.E.A.T. though - he mentions it came on suddenly a month ago and he's already been out for some time at that point.

True, I missed that bit I guess. Listening to HEAT at the moment. He has such a great voice.

One of my good friends died of this a few years ago. He went to hospital with a nose bleed that wouldnt stop and was dead 5 days later. Hopefully they can fix him he sounds confident.

good lord


everybody, go hug your kids
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Grappler on April 16, 2021, 07:08:58 PM
Has anyone heard the Icon of Sin album with Raphael Mendes (aka little Bruce Dickinson?)?

This thing smokes - it's a mini Iron Maiden record!   :metal

Shadow Dancer:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IklKIpmj8mI
Night Breed:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC2hHqdANnI
Icon of Sin:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_3cuS2toPs
Virtual Empire:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2vnrC_nsYo

I think they left all of the softcock stuff off of this album.   ;)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 16, 2021, 09:02:16 PM
I'll take note to check it put mate.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on April 16, 2021, 09:14:56 PM
I actually had about 10 minutes of computer time this afternoon, and I did drop the needle on it. It sounded interesting. I had no idea it was Raphael.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2021, 07:26:38 AM
Has anyone heard the Icon of Sin album with Raphael Mendes (aka little Bruce Dickinson?)?

This thing smokes - it's a mini Iron Maiden record!   :metal

Shadow Dancer:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IklKIpmj8mI
Night Breed:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC2hHqdANnI
Icon of Sin:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_3cuS2toPs
Virtual Empire:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2vnrC_nsYo

I think they left all of the softcock stuff off of this album.   ;)

I've been following the singles as they've been released.  Saw that the full album dropped yesterday, and have it (along with a few others) queued up.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Big Hath on April 17, 2021, 12:55:07 PM
it's a two-for-one song spotlight this time from the band Red Dawn.  Bit of a harder rock edge to some of this, especially the vocals, but smooth enough to fit the genre.


Red Dawn - Flyin' High

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzkcrBCKAFo


Red Dawn - Dangerous Child

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyubyS-xtgc
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Grappler on April 17, 2021, 04:32:16 PM
I keep playing the Icon of Sin record and forgetting that it's a new band.  This feels like a Bruce Dickinson solo album, musically and vocally. 

If Bruce isn't going to do any more solo albums, at least we have Raphael to do them for us!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 18, 2021, 06:08:58 AM
it's a two-for-one song spotlight this time from the band Red Dawn.  Bit of a harder rock edge to some of this, especially the vocals, but smooth enough to fit the genre.


Red Dawn - Flyin' High

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzkcrBCKAFo


Red Dawn - Dangerous Child

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyubyS-xtgc

This is a great album. Great vocals, great guitar, great songs.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 18, 2021, 06:29:27 AM
it's a two-for-one song spotlight this time from the band Red Dawn.  Bit of a harder rock edge to some of this, especially the vocals, but smooth enough to fit the genre.


Red Dawn - Flyin' High

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzkcrBCKAFo


Red Dawn - Dangerous Child

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyubyS-xtgc

This is a great album. Great vocals, great guitar, great songs.

Indeed it is.  I forget if it was you, or Brent that put me on to this one.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 18, 2021, 06:58:51 AM
it's a two-for-one song spotlight this time from the band Red Dawn.  Bit of a harder rock edge to some of this, especially the vocals, but smooth enough to fit the genre.


Red Dawn - Flyin' High

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzkcrBCKAFo


Red Dawn - Dangerous Child

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyubyS-xtgc

This is a great album. Great vocals, great guitar, great songs.

Indeed it is.  I forget if it was you, or Brent that put me on to this one.

I think I might have sent it in a roulette..
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 18, 2021, 07:16:05 AM
Might have used it in a roulette myself.  We were probably both pimping it in here back in the day too Paul  ;D     Number 45 in my top 50 also , so has had plenty of discussion over the years.   Certainly an unknown gem of melodic rock and a rather rare CD too back before everything was either streamed or re-released with bonus tracks............or Russian import :lol .
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Big Hath on April 22, 2021, 01:15:12 PM
another twofer, this time from the band The Storm from their 1995 album Eye of the Storm.  Early 90s band with a few former Journey members.

The Storm - Love Isn't Easy.  This one is kind of a Survivor/Journey mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPpYtPeJV_c


The Storm - Livin' It Up.  I'm a sucker for those late-80s/early-90s songs when a hard/melodic rock band would shift into a funky groove.  Just a fun song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-200Fc4ybaM
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 22, 2021, 03:17:36 PM
another twofer, this time from the band The Storm from their 1995 album Eye of the Storm.  Early 90s band with a few former Journey members.

The Storm - Love Isn't Easy.  This one is kind of a Survivor/Journey mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPpYtPeJV_c


The Storm - Livin' It Up.  I'm a sucker for those late-80s/early-90s songs when a hard/melodic rock band would shift into a funky groove.  Just a fun song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-200Fc4ybaM

Parked it to listen to tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 22, 2021, 07:17:00 PM
I had this at No 59  (HM) in my Top 50 and Love Isn't Easy is probably the track I would've linked to .  Waiting For The World To Change is also a massive ballad.    At his peak Kevin Chalfant certainly had some pipes.   Not a great fan of Livin It Up myself  :)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on April 22, 2021, 07:23:20 PM
Love Isn't Easy. 

Listening to this song isn't easy.


And that album cover! :facepalm: :lol
Yacht rock.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Big Hath on April 22, 2021, 07:45:57 PM
Not a great fan of Livin It Up myself  :)

haha, that's the main reason I went with two songs again.  That one is surely to be polarizing.  If nothing else, it's certainly a break from the norm for the genre.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 22, 2021, 07:48:48 PM
Fight For The Right was my go to song on that album.   It's been so long since that style of AOR was a big part of my life but it's a quality album.

I am shocked that you dislike Love Isn't Cheesy Tim  :lol


I can picture the cover you are thinking of Tim  - there were actually two versions.

I assume you saw this one :


(https://i.postimg.cc/4yqkY810/storm1.jpg)



I have the Jap CD with this cover


(https://i.postimg.cc/SRw3SnSF/storm2.jpg)




It was much easier to buy the 2nd cover  :lol

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on April 22, 2021, 08:30:28 PM
Yeah, WTF kind of cover is this?

(https://i.postimg.cc/4yqkY810/storm1.jpg)

And what kind of band pic is this in the sleeve?

(https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/495f54a/2147483647/strip/true/crop/600x402+0+0/resize/840x563!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fbc%2Fab%2Ff0a3f9d2a69a7798b8b7b159e795%2Fla-et-st-sad-ending-for-the-love-boat-ship-201-001)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: gazinwales on April 23, 2021, 01:55:26 AM
another twofer, this time from the band The Storm from their 1995 album Eye of the Storm.  Early 90s band with a few former Journey members.

The Storm - Love Isn't Easy.  This one is kind of a Survivor/Journey mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPpYtPeJV_c


The Storm - Livin' It Up.  I'm a sucker for those late-80s/early-90s songs when a hard/melodic rock band would shift into a funky groove.  Just a fun song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-200Fc4ybaM

While I loved the killer self titled debut, the follow up IMO was nowhere near the quality of The Storm.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 23, 2021, 06:26:13 AM
another twofer, this time from the band The Storm from their 1995 album Eye of the Storm.  Early 90s band with a few former Journey members.

The Storm - Love Isn't Easy.  This one is kind of a Survivor/Journey mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPpYtPeJV_c


The Storm - Livin' It Up.  I'm a sucker for those late-80s/early-90s songs when a hard/melodic rock band would shift into a funky groove.  Just a fun song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-200Fc4ybaM

Solid but I'm just really not into this style anymore.  That first song was a strong Missing You rip too in the verses.  Nice guitar tone though.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 23, 2021, 01:54:43 PM
I had a listen to the album, and the nods to Journey were unmistakable.  Good stuff, but I don't know that it'll get much replay value.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 25, 2021, 04:30:58 PM
So I played the new Issa album today and very surprisingly enjoyed it. Her voice has improved and the songs rocked a bit. They were surprisingly well done.

Surprised the shit out of me.

It was a lovely sunny day though, which might have helped.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2021, 04:28:14 AM
So I played the new Issa album today and very surprisingly enjoyed it. Her voice has improved and the songs rocked a bit. They were surprisingly well done.

Surprised the shit out of me.

It was a lovely sunny day though, which might have helped.

I don't think we can be friends anymore.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 26, 2021, 09:07:00 AM
So I played the new Issa album today and very surprisingly enjoyed it. Her voice has improved and the songs rocked a bit. They were surprisingly well done.

Surprised the shit out of me.

It was a lovely sunny day though, which might have helped.

I don't think we can be friends anymore.

Hey, Im not sure I can be friends with me too. I feel kinda dirty, and not in a good way 😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Anguyen92 on April 26, 2021, 02:44:05 PM
So I played the new Issa album today and very surprisingly enjoyed it. Her voice has improved and the songs rocked a bit. They were surprisingly well done.

Surprised the shit out of me.

It was a lovely sunny day though, which might have helped.

I don't think we can be friends anymore.

What would you do if blindfold yourself and play that album without knowing who that is.  Would you think you would enjoy it?  That's a social experiment that I want to see happen.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 26, 2021, 03:27:52 PM
So I played the new Issa album today and very surprisingly enjoyed it. Her voice has improved and the songs rocked a bit. They were surprisingly well done.

Surprised the shit out of me.

It was a lovely sunny day though, which might have helped.

I don't think we can be friends anymore.

What would you do if blindfold yourself and play that album without knowing who that is.  Would you think you would enjoy it?  That's a social experiment that I want to see happen.

Youd need earplugs too.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 26, 2021, 04:15:16 PM
So I played the new Issa album today and very surprisingly enjoyed it. Her voice has improved and the songs rocked a bit. They were surprisingly well done.

Surprised the shit out of me.

It was a lovely sunny day though, which might have helped.

I don't think we can be friends anymore.

What would you do if blindfold yourself and play that album without knowing who that is.  Would you think you would enjoy it?  That's a social experiment that I want to see happen.

Since I'm not a big fan of female vocalists anyway, probably not.  The generic drivel in the music song after song wouldn't help.

So I played the new Issa album today and very surprisingly enjoyed it. Her voice has improved and the songs rocked a bit. They were surprisingly well done.

Surprised the shit out of me.

It was a lovely sunny day though, which might have helped.

I don't think we can be friends anymore.

What would you do if blindfold yourself and play that album without knowing who that is.  Would you think you would enjoy it?  That's a social experiment that I want to see happen.

Youd need earplugs too.

 :lol

So I played the new Issa album today and very surprisingly enjoyed it. Her voice has improved and the songs rocked a bit. They were surprisingly well done.

Surprised the shit out of me.

It was a lovely sunny day though, which might have helped.

I don't think we can be friends anymore.

Hey, Im not sure I can be friends with me too. I feel kinda dirty, and not in a good way 😁

You should feel that way!  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Big Hath on April 26, 2021, 09:39:58 PM
time again for another song spotlight.  And it's another twofer, but it's the same song!  Back in 1993, Danger Danger recorded an album with Ted Poley on vocals.  But he left prior to its release.  They re-recorded the vocals with new vocalist Paul Laine the following year, but due to a lawsuit between Poley and the band, the album was never released.  Several years later the label eventually released the album, as a double album, with both versions of each song.

Ok, ok, so this is hard rock and not melodic/AOR, but Screw It!

Also, lets hear it for Andy Timmons!


Danger Danger - Still Kickin' (Paul Laine)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJt3f11yLUA


Danger Danger - Still Kickin' (Ted Poley)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88L-5nspEO0


Who do you prefer?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2021, 01:04:31 AM
I have the 2cd version of cockroach.  That song is a banger indeed.  I think I'll take Poleys version.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 27, 2021, 11:31:05 AM
Ted Poley.

I do love Paul Laines voice but TP is Danger Danger. Strangely, Ive never liked his voice on anything other than Danger Danger stuff.

Screw It was in my top 50.

Andy Timmons is an incredible guitarist.

Has that got my street cred back?

And Chadks earplugs comment is hilarious 😆
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2021, 04:14:04 PM
Ted Poley.

I do love Paul Laines voice but TP is Danger Danger. Strangely, Ive never liked his voice on anything other than Danger Danger stuff.

Screw It was in my top 50.

Andy Timmons is an incredible guitarist.

Has that got my street cred back?

And Chadks earplugs comment is hilarious 😆

It's a start mate.

I agree, TP is Danger Danger.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 27, 2021, 05:59:47 PM
Going from memory here but I would give the edge to Laine , probably because I lived for a long time with the Cockroach bootleg (average production) and Four The Hard Way (Laine) and Laine just became the voice of that song for me.


On another topic ............bearing in mind that this is a single https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILuGacn9W0Q    it seems Toby Hitchcock might be moving at least partially back towards the sound of the album that started off this thread.  The mix ain't flash and it's very Frontiersy but it seems he might be about to release something listenable again for the first time in a while.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2021, 08:58:59 PM
On another topic ............bearing in mind that this is a single https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILuGacn9W0Q    it seems Toby Hitchcock might be moving at least partially back towards the sound of the album that started off this thread.  The mix ain't flash and it's very Frontiersy but it seems he might be about to release something listenable again for the first time in a while.

Will check this tonight, but if that's the case, that would be most welcome.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 28, 2021, 05:34:08 AM
On another topic ............bearing in mind that this is a single https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILuGacn9W0Q    it seems Toby Hitchcock might be moving at least partially back towards the sound of the album that started off this thread.  The mix ain't flash and it's very Frontiersy but it seems he might be about to release something listenable again for the first time in a while.

Will check this tonight, but if that's the case, that would be most welcome.

Del Vicchio again FFS!!  but.....that was alright.  Had a nice atmosphere.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 28, 2021, 12:55:07 PM
On another topic ............bearing in mind that this is a single https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILuGacn9W0Q    it seems Toby Hitchcock might be moving at least partially back towards the sound of the album that started off this thread.  The mix ain't flash and it's very Frontiersy but it seems he might be about to release something listenable again for the first time in a while.

Sheee-itt!  We're coming up on 10 years!

Vocally, this was pretty good; musically, it definitely left me limp.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 28, 2021, 02:17:10 PM
Ted Poley.

I do love Paul Laines voice but TP is Danger Danger. Strangely, Ive never liked his voice on anything other than Danger Danger stuff.


This right here.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 29, 2021, 05:52:45 AM
I tried having a listen to the Hoekstra album.  Made it 5 songs in and turned it off.  What a generic load of crap.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 29, 2021, 06:21:47 AM
I tried having a listen to the Hoekstra album.  Made it 5 songs in and turned it off.  What a generic load of crap.

Funnily enough with everyone raving about it I couldn't be stuffed tracking it down (same as pretty much everything since 2019) .........but now I just might make the effort  :lol   
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 29, 2021, 06:50:00 AM
I tried having a listen to the Hoekstra album.  Made it 5 songs in and turned it off.  What a generic load of crap.

Funnily enough with everyone raving about it I couldn't be stuffed tracking it down (same as pretty much everything since 2019) .........but now I just might make the effort  :lol   

I'd be interested in other opinions but this is getting raved about?  I just couldn't stick it out.  Russ shouldn't be wasting his time with this garbage.  Concentrate on playing Sykes solos only Joel.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on April 29, 2021, 07:41:25 AM
I tried having a listen to the Hoekstra album.  Made it 5 songs in and turned it off.  What a generic load of crap.

Funnily enough with everyone raving about it I couldn't be stuffed tracking it down (same as pretty much everything since 2019) .........but now I just might make the effort  :lol   

I'd be interested in other opinions but this is getting raved about?  I just couldn't stick it out.  Russ shouldn't be wasting his time with this garbage.  Concentrate on playing Sykes solos only Joel.

Some of us miss the 80's ya know?!?!?!!  :D :D :D

I think that's what Joel set out to do: an album with 80's infused hard rock. When I interviewed him I said "if Kobra Kai needed a soundtrack, your album would be IT!". And I stand by that comment. We will never hear music of this kind and feel the same impact as we did in the 80's, but this is the next best thing.

On the same topic of throwbacks, here's my next interview subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TrRiViGaA8

I'll be speaking with Tommy Clufetos next Friday.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on April 29, 2021, 09:00:18 AM
I tried having a listen to the Hoekstra album.  Made it 5 songs in and turned it off.  What a generic load of crap.

I reviewed it; I liked it a lot, but it could have been better.  The vocals ruined it for me, which is ironic, because the vocals were the one thing that WASN'T "80's".   My critique of Russell is the same as the one I had of Jeff in Sons of Apollo:  they're both good singers, but they sing in that generic, mid-range voice that doesn't do the music justice.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 30, 2021, 03:26:11 AM
On another topic ............bearing in mind that this is a single https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILuGacn9W0Q    it seems Toby Hitchcock might be moving at least partially back towards the sound of the album that started off this thread.  The mix ain't flash and it's very Frontiersy but it seems he might be about to release something listenable again for the first time in a while.

Will check this tonight, but if that's the case, that would be most welcome.

Del Vicchio again FFS!!  but.....that was alright.  Had a nice atmosphere.

And you've been giving me shit for liking the new Issa! :biggrin: That was a steaming pile. What a waste of a good voice.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2021, 06:18:14 AM
On another topic ............bearing in mind that this is a single https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILuGacn9W0Q    it seems Toby Hitchcock might be moving at least partially back towards the sound of the album that started off this thread.  The mix ain't flash and it's very Frontiersy but it seems he might be about to release something listenable again for the first time in a while.

Will check this tonight, but if that's the case, that would be most welcome.

Del Vicchio again FFS!!  but.....that was alright.  Had a nice atmosphere.

And you've been giving me shit for liking the new Issa! :biggrin: That was a steaming pile. What a waste of a good voice.

Fiesty Paul, I like it.  Fair call I guess.....but....Issa......come on mate!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 30, 2021, 06:27:01 AM
On another topic ............bearing in mind that this is a single https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILuGacn9W0Q    it seems Toby Hitchcock might be moving at least partially back towards the sound of the album that started off this thread.  The mix ain't flash and it's very Frontiersy but it seems he might be about to release something listenable again for the first time in a while.

Will check this tonight, but if that's the case, that would be most welcome.

Del Vicchio again FFS!!  but.....that was alright.  Had a nice atmosphere.

And you've been giving me shit for liking the new Issa! :biggrin: That was a steaming pile. What a waste of a good voice.

Fiesty Paul, I like it.  Fair call I guess.....but....Issa......come on mate!

but ...... Del Vecchio ..... COME ON MATE!!!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2021, 06:37:22 AM
On another topic ............bearing in mind that this is a single https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILuGacn9W0Q    it seems Toby Hitchcock might be moving at least partially back towards the sound of the album that started off this thread.  The mix ain't flash and it's very Frontiersy but it seems he might be about to release something listenable again for the first time in a while.

Will check this tonight, but if that's the case, that would be most welcome.

Del Vicchio again FFS!!  but.....that was alright.  Had a nice atmosphere.

And you've been giving me shit for liking the new Issa! :biggrin: That was a steaming pile. What a waste of a good voice.

Fiesty Paul, I like it.  Fair call I guess.....but....Issa......come on mate!

but ...... Del Vecchio ..... COME ON MATE!!!

Yeah yeah......I know.  :(
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 30, 2021, 12:57:55 PM
On another topic ............bearing in mind that this is a single https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILuGacn9W0Q    it seems Toby Hitchcock might be moving at least partially back towards the sound of the album that started off this thread.  The mix ain't flash and it's very Frontiersy but it seems he might be about to release something listenable again for the first time in a while.

Will check this tonight, but if that's the case, that would be most welcome.

Del Vicchio again FFS!!  but.....that was alright.  Had a nice atmosphere.

And you've been giving me shit for liking the new Issa! :biggrin: That was a steaming pile. What a waste of a good voice.

Fiesty Paul, I like it.  Fair call I guess.....but....Issa......come on mate!

I wasnt intentionally feisty mate 😁.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 30, 2021, 04:05:40 PM
I respected you more when I thought you were!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 01, 2021, 04:30:57 PM
I played the new End Machine album today. Its very good but jeez, George totally rips off Aint Talkin bout Love on Shine Your Light. Not sure how he thought hed get away with it. Good song apart from that. A tribute to Ed maybe?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Big Hath on May 10, 2021, 10:21:28 PM
well, haven't been around for a few days.  My father passed away last week, so I've been at funeral services both where I grew up/he lived for a significant portion of his adult life, and then where he grew up and still has most of his family located.

Drove a total of 24 hours over a 3 day span.  Had lots of time to myself (the wife and kids stayed home for several reasons) and listened to quite a bit of music (my therapy).


Anyway, today's song spotlight is going to be 3 songs.

One of the albums I listened to was 3 by Mastedon (John Elefante's band, not to be confused with the Atlanta-based metal band with a different spelling).  The album is dedicated to John's father who had passed away prior to its recording.  And this song really got to me:

Mastedon - One Day Down By The Lake (See You Real Soon)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGBhDzN5kfc


And for obvious reasons, there is a cover of Dust In The Wind on the album.  I almost lost it when this came on.

Mastedon - Dust In The Wind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LQtnB3oZw8


And on a lighter note, my brother and I have always been big Toto fans.  My dad was always a bit of a jokester so I'm never sure if he was serious or not, but he always told us that he thought they were saying "nighty night" instead of "99" and we always got a big laugh out of that.  So take a listen to Toto's 99 in honor of my dad:

Toto - 99

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhw-XlTMB5I
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 10, 2021, 10:25:13 PM
Very sorry to hear that Jon -  my condolences.


One Day Down By The Lake is a real nice song..........I remember playing that a bit , was my fave from the album if I recall correct.   He has a super clean , powerful voice does Mr Elefante.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 11, 2021, 04:38:22 AM
Jon, that's terrible news.  Sorry for your loss.  :hug:

I'll fire those tunes up this morning in his memory.   :tup
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2021, 05:10:56 AM
So sorry to hear that Jon.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Podaar on May 11, 2021, 05:49:27 AM
I'll listen to these in honor of your dad, Big Hath. Sorry, mang.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 11, 2021, 06:23:34 AM
All the best Jon. I know how hard it is.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on May 11, 2021, 09:14:33 AM
Wow, so sorry to hear about your loss. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 11, 2021, 09:26:09 AM
Sorry for your loss, losing someone is always hard.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on May 11, 2021, 03:43:43 PM
Jon, I'm so sorry to hear that.



I'll listen to these in honor of your dad, Big Hath.

As will I.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on May 11, 2021, 04:40:21 PM
Yeah, I'll check these tunes tonight.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 13, 2021, 08:26:58 PM
New from Nestor   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1PkYFv76LA


Even aside from their songs , the job these guys are doing with the retro ideas/humour , audio/video production -not to mention the vocals - is pretty mindblowing.  I am guessing these guys have money behind them and are just having some fun with it.

Unsurprisingly the new song borrows heavily from the past , but perhaps a bit too heavily from one song (I'll Fight Hell To Hold You by KISS).......but that happens to be one of my favourite 80s KISS songs , so they get a pass.

I am looking forward to a full album
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on May 13, 2021, 08:30:51 PM
I'll Fight Hell To Hold You is an awesome song, Brent.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Big Hath on May 16, 2021, 11:47:02 PM
this song spotlight comes from one of the great undersung albums of melodic rock, featuring a defining voice of the genre.  Could have gone with virtually any song from this album.


Unruly Child - Who Cries Now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-o-6tHwM8I

that voice paired with those melodies.  magic.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 17, 2021, 07:17:07 AM
this song spotlight comes from one of the great undersung albums of melodic rock, featuring a defining voice of the genre.  Could have gone with virtually any song from this album.


Unruly Child - Who Cries Now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-o-6tHwM8I

that voice paired with those melodies.  magic.

Cant remember if it was you or Brent that introduced me to them, but their s/t release is awesome. I should check out some more of their more current releases.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 16, 2021, 03:49:19 PM
New from Nestor   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1PkYFv76LA


Even aside from their songs , the job these guys are doing with the retro ideas/humour , audio/video production -not to mention the vocals - is pretty mindblowing.  I am guessing these guys have money behind them and are just having some fun with it.

Unsurprisingly the new song borrows heavily from the past , but perhaps a bit too heavily from one song (I'll Fight Hell To Hold You by KISS).......but that happens to be one of my favourite 80s KISS songs , so they get a pass.

I am looking forward to a full album
Love these guys!

Stumbled upon their acoustic version of On The Run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOikB8N1WC0&ab_channel=NestorTheBandNestorTheBand

Love his voice!!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on June 16, 2021, 03:56:19 PM
New from Nestor   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1PkYFv76LA


Even aside from their songs , the job these guys are doing with the retro ideas/humour , audio/video production -not to mention the vocals - is pretty mindblowing.  I am guessing these guys have money behind them and are just having some fun with it.

Unsurprisingly the new song borrows heavily from the past , but perhaps a bit too heavily from one song (I'll Fight Hell To Hold You by KISS).......but that happens to be one of my favourite 80s KISS songs , so they get a pass.

I am looking forward to a full album

Ha!  This was pretty cool.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on June 17, 2021, 06:55:12 AM
New from Nestor   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1PkYFv76LA


Even aside from their songs , the job these guys are doing with the retro ideas/humour , audio/video production -not to mention the vocals - is pretty mindblowing.  I am guessing these guys have money behind them and are just having some fun with it.

Unsurprisingly the new song borrows heavily from the past , but perhaps a bit too heavily from one song (I'll Fight Hell To Hold You by KISS).......but that happens to be one of my favourite 80s KISS songs , so they get a pass.

I am looking forward to a full album

Ha!  This was pretty cool.

That was decent.  There's a little whiff of "Magic Touch" in there too. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 17, 2021, 07:01:23 AM
this song spotlight comes from one of the great undersung albums of melodic rock, featuring a defining voice of the genre.  Could have gone with virtually any song from this album.


Unruly Child - Who Cries Now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-o-6tHwM8I

that voice paired with those melodies.  magic.

A classic of the genre. i always thought the name held them back. It's a bit poor.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: DoctorAction on June 18, 2021, 05:32:46 AM
New from Nestor   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1PkYFv76LA


Even aside from their songs , the job these guys are doing with the retro ideas/humour , audio/video production -not to mention the vocals - is pretty mindblowing.  I am guessing these guys have money behind them and are just having some fun with it.

Unsurprisingly the new song borrows heavily from the past , but perhaps a bit too heavily from one song (I'll Fight Hell To Hold You by KISS).......but that happens to be one of my favourite 80s KISS songs , so they get a pass.

I am looking forward to a full album

Love all that's on Spotify for that guys. Can't wait for more. Perfect cheese.

(And Fight Hell To Hold You is a fine is 80s classic to draw from)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on June 18, 2021, 12:33:13 PM
Anyone check out the Chalice of Sin album today?  Solid.  Very fucking solid.  Better than Frontiers deserves.

Not sure I believe the hype from their initial PR ("The resulting album is a tremendous example of classic heavy metal sounds akin to Savatage, Crimson Glory, and Metal Church. An absolute must for all lovers of classic heavy metal music from the '80s/early '90s!"), but it's really an enjoyable listen so far.

Edit: I think this was one you guys shat on a few pages back (or maybe it was in the hard rock thread), but I don't care.  I dig it... oh yeah, this was the one that inspired Tim's singing in the shower cover album.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on July 01, 2021, 06:13:52 AM
https://youtu.be/HkjyzSqt5DI

New Vega.  Fuck I love this band.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 01, 2021, 09:03:27 AM
https://youtu.be/HkjyzSqt5DI

New Vega.  Fuck I love this band.

Will check that later.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on August 03, 2021, 05:15:04 AM
https://youtu.be/w2yRzYLcbwk

New track from a Frontiers project of Jens from Edguy.  This is actually pretty damn good.

And look who is on the fucking bass, of course!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 04, 2021, 04:56:52 AM
New Lords of Black.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_AOzhbO3sc

I have no idea if the video is cheesy or not - does anyone watch videos these days??? - but even I'm kinda 'meh' about this song.  I'll still spin the album on release day.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on August 04, 2021, 05:52:33 AM
More like Lords of Slack.  ;D

Joking aside, I actually quite liked that!  Liked the darkest tones and atmosphere of it.  Probably the only song I've heard from them that I enjoyed.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 04, 2021, 05:57:48 AM
More like Lords of Slack.  ;D

Joking aside, I actually quite liked that!  Liked the darkest tones and atmosphere of it.  Probably the only song I've heard from them that I enjoyed.

You and I are polar opposites when it comes to this band!  :D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on August 04, 2021, 06:11:31 AM
More like Lords of Slack.  ;D

Joking aside, I actually quite liked that!  Liked the darkest tones and atmosphere of it.  Probably the only song I've heard from them that I enjoyed.

You and I are polar opposites when it comes to this band!  :D

So this is a different sound and style for them?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 04, 2021, 01:00:58 PM
Not a lot ... just seemed to be a little uninspired and plain to me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on August 04, 2021, 02:48:35 PM
Not a lot ... just seemed to be a little uninspired and plain to me.

Huh!  I mean it wasn't revolutionary but it surprisingly held my interest.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on August 22, 2021, 04:19:36 PM
Nestors 1989 is just spinning around in my head, such a catchy song. Can't wait for their album later this year!  :tup
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on August 22, 2021, 06:19:00 PM
I will admit I enjoy all of the Starmen albums. Kiss, Deep Purple and Yngwie influences. Fun catchy tunes.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2021, 06:32:46 AM
Couple of recent discoveries released earlier this year that I found very entertaining and easy on the ears:

Spektra / Overload - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpEYj_z12qc
Temple Balls / Thunder From the North - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsyAsTJwoWY

The first reminded me of Mercury's Down.  The 2nd was some very nice glam/sleaze rock.

Tim can skip these and go right to the "these blow" reply.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2021, 09:06:27 AM
Temple fucking Balls?? :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2021, 10:33:21 AM
Temple fucking Balls?? :lol

Bringing the THUNDER  :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2021, 02:12:47 PM
Couple of recent discoveries released earlier this year that I found very entertaining and easy on the ears:

Spektra / Overload - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpEYj_z12qc
Temple Balls / Thunder From the North - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsyAsTJwoWY

The first reminded me of Mercury's Down.  The 2nd was some very nice glam/sleaze rock.

Tim can skip these and go right to the "these blow" reply.  :biggrin:

That's some comparison.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2021, 02:47:49 PM

Temple Balls / Thunder From the North - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsyAsTJwoWY

The 2nd was some very nice glam/sleaze rock.

Damn that is easy on the ears. I like it. Listening to the album on Spotify.


I've been on a huge Hanoi Rocks/Michael Monroe kick lately. And Temple Balls are from Finland as well.

What Is Dead And Never Dies  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2021, 03:07:49 PM
Tim liking something in the softcock thread?  Is this the bizarro world?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 23, 2021, 03:08:27 PM
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/3ohs4crB027WIQnKWQ/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on August 23, 2021, 03:09:59 PM
Tim liking something in the softcock thread?  Is this the bizarro world?

Oh, that's nothing.

It's the fact that I'm liking a Chad recommendation... ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on August 23, 2021, 03:21:04 PM
Tim liking something in the softcock thread?  Is this the bizarro world?

Oh, that's nothing.

It's the fact that I'm liking a Chad recommendation... ;D

 :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 24, 2021, 12:26:44 PM
It has a Crazy Lixx tinge to it. Their new one is pretty good.
https://youtu.be/RC8d37bACUE

Their comment on the video is good too - this isnt an anthem FROM America, its an anthem FOR America. They clearly cant make stuff like this any more so someon3 has to do it for the, right?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 24, 2021, 03:03:01 PM
I heard that tune last Friday... totally dug it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2021, 04:21:37 PM
I've seen it in my YouTube feed but just haven't been bothered watching it. I will though since you guys like it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on August 24, 2021, 05:39:49 PM
If I can listen to something called Temple Of The Balls, I suppose I could try Crazy Lixx.

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 24, 2021, 06:07:00 PM
If I can listen to something called Temple Of The Balls, I suppose I could try Crazy Lixx.

Were winning him back, Paul!!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on August 24, 2021, 06:13:19 PM
If I can listen to something called Temple Of The Balls, I suppose I could try Crazy Lixx.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/27/9c/d9/279cd97f50dd5580b88c1c365e7dd286.gif)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on August 24, 2021, 06:15:31 PM
Lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2021, 05:57:04 AM
That Crazy Lixx was alright.  I didn't really get into the last one both the two before it were really awesome.  I'll check it but I think the last one slipped by as my tastes are changing not so much the bands fault.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on August 25, 2021, 07:32:14 AM
I'm a Kiss and Whitesnake fan, so there's not a lot of shame when it comes to the music I listen to, but even I might keep "Temple of the Balls" under my hat.   :)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 25, 2021, 08:43:17 AM
There is no "of the".  It's just Temple Balls!!  All Balls deserve to be idolized.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on August 25, 2021, 03:37:44 PM
Temple Balls are actually a very cool hard rock/metal band.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on August 25, 2021, 04:07:52 PM
Temple Balls are actually a very cool hard rock/metal band.

It's Temple of the Balls.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on August 25, 2021, 04:11:25 PM
Temple Balls are actually a very cool hard rock/metal band.

It's Temple of the Balls.


I actually wish it was  :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on August 28, 2021, 08:47:35 AM
Cats In Space played my town on Thursday so I felt compelled to go. Id heard some of their songs but wouldnt say I particularly knew them I enjoyed the show but it was a bit cheesy at times.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 30, 2021, 05:17:21 AM
Nother Lords of Black single. This is more to my liking.

https://youtu.be/UFb7HQVokzs
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2021, 05:40:38 AM
Yeah, I really liked that one too.  More generic than the first song but liked the darker atmosphere of it.  The solo was a little weird though.  The guitarist is hilarious, so overdramatic.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on August 30, 2021, 06:46:10 AM
Agreed ... it was definitely Lords Of Black by-the-numbers.  But I like dem numbers.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on August 30, 2021, 02:55:39 PM
Agreed ... it was definitely Lords Of Black by-the-numbers.  But I like dem numbers.

Still seems a lot better than all the other stuff I've heard from them.  If you're saying it's similar, I'm not sure why I think that.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 10, 2021, 01:13:23 PM
Nestor - Tomorrow feat. Samantha Fox (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-owkVR5PPI&ab_channel=NestorTheBand)

Wait is that actually Samantha Fox?  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 10, 2021, 01:33:38 PM
That is indeed the real Sam Fox. I would recognise them anywhere 😳
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 10, 2021, 01:41:01 PM
That is indeed the real Sam Fox. I would recognise them anywhere 😳
:zydar:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 10, 2021, 03:10:20 PM
That is indeed the real Sam Fox. I would recognise them anywhere 😳
:zydar:

When I was a teen, Sam was a page 3 model in the Sun newspaper, appearing topless. I was a pretty decent artist and I used to draw the page 3 girls for practice . I remember doing a picture of Sam and my dad said that if I put as much time and effort into the rest of the picture as I did the tits it would be incredible!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: DoctorAction on September 12, 2021, 09:01:11 AM
That is indeed the real Sam Fox. I would recognise them anywhere 😳
:zydar:

When I was a teen, Sam was a page 3 model in the Sun newspaper, appearing topless. I was a pretty decent artist and I used to draw the page 3 girls for practice . I remember doing a picture of Sam and my dad said that if I put as much time and effort into the rest of the picture as I did the tits it would be incredible!

 :lol :lol :lol

I thought her singing was great too.

Can't wait for these guys' album.

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on September 12, 2021, 05:32:11 PM
I kind of dug that.   I have no idea who "Nestor" is, but I might check that out.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on September 12, 2021, 05:43:37 PM
I kind of dug that.   I have no idea who "Nestor" is, but I might check that out.

That fucking blew chunks. I mean, other than the tits.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 13, 2021, 12:21:56 AM
I kind of dug that.   I have no idea who "Nestor" is, but I might check that out.
Check out their other songs 1989 and On the Run.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 18, 2021, 10:43:07 AM
Im off to see the Quireboys tonight. Theyre playing a pub not 5p0 yards from my house and it was only 5 a ticket so it would be rude not to. I quite liked their A Bit Of What You Fancy album but cant say I know anything else by them.

Should be fun.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on September 18, 2021, 10:46:27 AM
Im off to see the Quireboys tonight. Theyre playing a pub not 5p0 yards from my house and it was only 5 a ticket so it would be rude not to. I quite liked their A Bit Of What You Fancy album but cant say I know anything else by them.

Should be fun.

Thats awesome! Is Babylon A.D. opening for them? 😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 19, 2021, 05:46:28 AM
Im off to see the Quireboys tonight. Theyre playing a pub not 5p0 yards from my house and it was only 5 a ticket so it would be rude not to. I quite liked their A Bit Of What You Fancy album but cant say I know anything else by them.

Should be fun.

Thats awesome! Is Babylon A.D. opening for them? 😁

 :biggrin: Admittedly that would be cool, but no.

It was a very good gig at an intimate venue.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on September 23, 2021, 07:47:27 PM
New Temple Of The Balls video.

https://bravewords.com/news/temple-balls-release-live-studio-session-video-for-heart-of-a-warrior


I can't decide if I like it or not. I kinda do. :blush
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on September 23, 2021, 07:59:39 PM
New Temple Of The Balls video.

https://bravewords.com/news/temple-balls-release-live-studio-session-video-for-heart-of-a-warrior


I can't decide if I like it or not. I kinda do. :blush

Their new album is actually quite good. I laughed when I first saw the band name and for a goof I sampled it then bought it.  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on September 23, 2021, 08:03:22 PM
New Temple Of The Balls video.

https://bravewords.com/news/temple-balls-release-live-studio-session-video-for-heart-of-a-warrior


I can't decide if I like it or not. I kinda do. :blush

Their new album is actually quite good. I laughed when I first saw the band name and for a goof I sampled it then bought it.  :metal

I'm a big Hanoi Rocks/Michael Monroe fan so the fact that they're from Finland is interesting to me. There's a certain quality to it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on September 23, 2021, 08:07:01 PM
New Temple Of The Balls video.

https://bravewords.com/news/temple-balls-release-live-studio-session-video-for-heart-of-a-warrior


I can't decide if I like it or not. I kinda do. :blush

Their new album is actually quite good. I laughed when I first saw the band name and for a goof I sampled it then bought it.  :metal

I'm a big Hanoi Rocks/Michael Monroe fan so the fact that they're from Finland is interesting to me. There's a certain quality to it.

Shall we start a Temple Balls thread?  :metal :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on September 23, 2021, 08:09:28 PM
New Temple Of The Balls video.

https://bravewords.com/news/temple-balls-release-live-studio-session-video-for-heart-of-a-warrior


I can't decide if I like it or not. I kinda do. :blush

Their new album is actually quite good. I laughed when I first saw the band name and for a goof I sampled it then bought it.  :metal

I'm a big Hanoi Rocks/Michael Monroe fan so the fact that they're from Finland is interesting to me. There's a certain quality to it.

Shall we start a Temple Balls thread?  :metal :rollin

Can't believe DTF has survived this long without one.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on September 23, 2021, 08:14:30 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR4Wii3VxCiqI2kc0etsrbneDCVcvnQzwVARA&s)

Temple Balls ❤️

On tour with Toby Hitchcock?  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on September 23, 2021, 09:03:00 PM
Checked out one of their songs the other day.  I hated it.  It could have been a cover though.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 25, 2021, 12:34:29 PM
Not softcock, and not shit. This guy fronted an album last year by an outfit called Sinners Blood, which was one of my top albums of the year. Kinda sounds like a young Russell Allen.  This is surprising that its written by Del Vecchio, it sounds pretty good to my ears.

https://youtu.be/YoKNvL7yRLo
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 12, 2021, 08:57:26 AM
Anyone here listen to Vega? They are one of those bands I just lumped in with the cookie cutter Scandinavian AOR bands that bore the tits off me. I noticed that they are playing a pub I go to see bands fairly nearby so I gave them a listen.

For a modern AOR band this new album is pretty good. I think Ill go see them.

Praying Mantis are on at the same venue on Thursday so going to that one too. I just had a listen to some of their earlier stuff and its pretty good. A more AOR direction than many of their contemporary NWOBHM colleagues.

I used them in a roulette a few years back - their Sanctuary album was killer.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 12, 2021, 10:07:09 AM
I see there is a new album from Murder Of My Sweet, and strangely its a sequel to another bands album - the very great Minds Eye album A Gentlemans Hurricane. how very prog the link is songwriter, drummer, keyboard player, producer Daniel Flores.

Apparently it follows the daughter of the hitman from the first album.

https://youtu.be/O0OcjtEih4o
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on October 12, 2021, 10:27:02 AM
Anyone here listen to Vega? They are one of those bands I just lumped in with the cookie cutter Scandinavian AOR bands that bore the tits off me. I noticed that they are playing a pub I go to see bands fairly nearby so I gave them a listen.

For a modern AOR band this new album is pretty good. I think Ill go see them.

Praying Mantis are on at the same venue on Thursday so going to that one too. I just had a listen to some of their earlier stuff and its pretty good. A more AOR direction than many of their contemporary NWOBHM colleagues.

I used them in a roulette a few years back - their Sanctuary album was killer.

Vega are grossly underappreciated.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 12, 2021, 10:30:16 AM
I see there is a new album from Murder Of My Sweet, and strangely its a sequel to another bands album - the very great Minds Eye album A Gentlemans Hurricane. how very prog the link is songwriter, drummer, keyboard player, producer Daniel Flores.

Apparently it follows the daughter of the hitman from the first album.

https://youtu.be/O0OcjtEih4o

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F134.gif&hash=5546050533a58775b4721a5fae5efde0806f3b7b)

You can really hear the sound of A Gentleman's Hurricaine in there.  Though, it is quite a lot more ... Frontiers-y than the original.  I'll spin it when it drops in December.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on October 12, 2021, 04:42:21 PM
Anyone here listen to Vega? They are one of those bands I just lumped in with the cookie cutter Scandinavian AOR bands that bore the tits off me. I noticed that they are playing a pub I go to see bands fairly nearby so I gave them a listen.

For a modern AOR band this new album is pretty good. I think Ill go see them.

I've pimped them many times on here Paul.  I love them.  They are really the only melodic rock band I follow these days for the most part.

I've followed them since their debut.  I've been meaning to order the new one but haven't gotten around to it.  My fav albums are What the Hell and Stereo Messiah.  The last one Grit Your Teeth may be third, that was killer.  Go and see them mate.  I'd bloody love to see them.  What I've seen on YouTube they put on a good show.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2021, 07:53:10 PM
This new Crazy Lixx song (cheesy is a given) is perfect for your "car stereo"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O56OmUNEvjc
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on October 14, 2021, 07:54:51 PM
It's perfect for "your" car stereo maybe..
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 14, 2021, 07:57:05 PM
It's perfect for "your" car stereo maybe..

Someone is following me around disagreeing with everything I say  :lol

I hear Winger in the pre-chorus ........gold  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on October 14, 2021, 07:58:50 PM
It's perfect for "your" car stereo maybe..

Someone is following me around disagreeing with everything I say  :lol

I hear Winger in the pre-chorus ........gold  :metal

I'm gonna treat that like a scammer phone call. I'm not answering! :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on October 14, 2021, 08:07:27 PM
If I listen to Crazy Lixx on my car stereo, my windows are firmly wound up.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2021, 12:04:20 AM
This new Crazy Lixx song (cheesy is a given) is perfect for your "car stereo"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O56OmUNEvjc

I love Crazy Lixx and enjoyed the eye candy. Maybe we can send her round to knock some sense into Tim? 😁😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on November 06, 2021, 06:59:37 AM
Just listened to Shys Excess All Areas this morning at work.
Tony Mills  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 06, 2021, 10:08:39 AM
Just listened to Shys Excess All Areas this morning at work.
Tony Mills  :hefdaddy

Agreed.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on November 06, 2021, 10:34:01 AM
Just listened to Shys Excess All Areas this morning at work.
Tony Mills  :hefdaddy

Agreed.

I love his stuff with Siam. I Have the cds. R.I.P. Tony  :heart
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 07, 2021, 02:29:44 AM
He had such a unique, pleasing voice.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 07, 2021, 04:33:08 AM
Finally spun that Nestor release.  It may not be actually be on Frontiers, but it fits the mold - in a very good way.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: fivestring on November 08, 2021, 08:37:56 AM
Finally spun that Nestor release.  It may not be actually be on Frontiers, but it fits the mold - in a very good way.

This album is a lot of fun! I really enjoyed the first few videos they put out. They are obviously doing tribute to a cheesy time, but damn, they are great musicians and the videos were entertaining to say the least! They nail a sound of a past era, but it's still fresh and better performed and played than some of the acts from the past. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 09, 2021, 03:44:57 PM
Finally spun that Nestor release.  It may not be actually be on Frontiers, but it fits the mold - in a very good way.

This album is a lot of fun! I really enjoyed the first few videos they put out. They are obviously doing tribute to a cheesy time, but damn, they are great musicians and the videos were entertaining to say the least! They nail a sound of a past era, but it's still fresh and better performed and played than some of the acts from the past.

Not had chance to play the album yet but I enjoyed the videos they put out. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: nick_z on November 09, 2021, 04:07:53 PM
Finally spun that Nestor release.  It may not be actually be on Frontiers, but it fits the mold - in a very good way.

Really enjoyed it! They nail the sound and the whole mood. And they have the songs to back it up.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: WardySI on November 14, 2021, 02:45:47 AM
Really enjoyed both this year's The End Machine and Wayward Sons releases.  Neither essential to casual listeners but anyone who grew up ion Dokken grooved along to the first couple Lynch Mob albums or dug the shit outta Little Angels should enjoy \m/

For me Frontiers succeed when they leave bands to their own devices such as these and recent Spread Eagle etc!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 14, 2021, 07:50:13 PM

For me Frontiers succeed when they leave bands to their own devices

This is probably where I am. I know I have a few Frontiers releases but I am not sure if any have wolfking's favorite songwriter on them.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 03:31:52 AM

For me Frontiers succeed when they leave bands to their own devices

This is probably where I am. I know I have a few Frontiers releases but I am not sure if any have wolfking's favorite songwriter on them.

When I started this thread I was a bit of a fanatic with what Frontiers were doing.  While its true now leaving bands do their thing is the better product, the manufactured shit they are doing used to be good.

Allen/Lande, Sunstorm, Place Vendome, the Toby Hitchcock, Hardline, Find Me etc were all quality years ago.  Frontiers got greedy and has just kept taking the concept too far and devaluing the idea of putting quality musicians together.

It would be intriguing to find the time to read through this whole thread to see the decline.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2021, 05:23:02 AM
185 pages would be. looooong read
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ZirconBlue on November 15, 2021, 08:44:16 AM
185 pages would be. looooong read


Adjust your settings and it's only 130 pages.  Much more doable.  ;)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 10:26:23 AM
Exactly 10 years ago and 6 days ago I started this thread.  That's insane.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2021, 11:16:33 AM
Really enjoyed both this year's The End Machine and Wayward Sons releases.  Neither essential to casual listeners but anyone who grew up ion Dokken grooved along to the first couple Lynch Mob albums or dug the shit outta Little Angels should enjoy \m/

For me Frontiers succeed when they leave bands to their own devices such as these and recent Spread Eagle etc!

The End Machine was very good. Just a shame George wen5 with that organic guitar sound rather than his BFTA tone.

And with Frontiers, if it has ADVs name on it, Ill pass.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2021, 11:19:33 AM
Exactly 10 years ago and 6 days ago I started this thread.  That's insane.

Incredible. Ill listen to Mercurys Down in its honour.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 15, 2021, 11:30:11 AM
Exactly 10 years ago and 6 days ago I started this thread.  That's insane.

Incredible. Ill listen to Mercurys Down in its honour.

Just dont listen to anything Peterik has written since!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2021, 11:31:22 AM
Exactly 10 years ago and 6 days ago I started this thread.  That's insane.

Incredible. Ill listen to Mercurys Down in its honour.

Just dont listen to anything Peterik has written since!

Pretty much. Or Hitchcock. I dont think hes done anything interesting either
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 02:56:01 PM
Exactly 10 years ago and 6 days ago I started this thread.  That's insane.

Incredible. Ill listen to Mercurys Down in its honour.

Just dont listen to anything Peterik has written since!

Thing is, Erik Martensson did everything on that album.  IMO, he hasn't done a great deal since worthwhile either.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 03:00:55 PM
Exactly 10 years ago and 6 days ago I started this thread.  That's insane.

Imagine celebrating your 10th wedding anniversary with this line, "Honey, Happy Anniversary 10 years and six days ago".

Instant divorce. :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 03:10:57 PM
Exactly 10 years ago and 6 days ago I started this thread.  That's insane.

Imagine celebrating your 10th wedding anniversary with this line, "Honey, Happy Anniversary 10 years and six days ago".

Instant divorce. :lol

Would you make it to the 6th day after the 10 years with your balls still intact though?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 03:18:37 PM
No chance.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 03:21:20 PM
No chance.

Wouldn't make it to the 6th minute.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 15, 2021, 03:25:34 PM
Exactly 10 years ago and 6 days ago I started this thread.  That's insane.

Imagine celebrating your 10th wedding anniversary with this line, "Honey, Happy Anniversary 10 years and six days ago".

Instant divorce. :lol

10 years and six days since you became a softcock  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 15, 2021, 06:04:38 PM
So I was looking over the Frontiers roster and maybe this has happened, but they really need a concert bill with Crazy Lixx and Temple Balls. I mean, it's right there:

The Lixx the Balls Tour.

Make it happen.

I honestly have no idea what either sound like, but I was really bored as my wife was having surgery and I was at the hospital for 10 hours today. My mind really wandered.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 06:14:59 PM
Is she ok??
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 15, 2021, 06:31:22 PM
Is she ok??

She's fine. She has been suffering hip issues for years and had an impingement in her right hip. She essentially had bone spurs that were scraping when her hip moved through the joint. Surgeon also found her labrum completely detached sans one part that had been stapled in place some 8 years ago when she had the same surgery on the same hip. She now has 6 more holding the labrum in place. Just been a long day. Up at 5am and at the hospital at 6am.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 15, 2021, 06:57:41 PM
Exactly 10 years ago and 6 days ago I started this thread.  That's insane.

Imagine celebrating your 10th wedding anniversary with this line, "Honey, Happy Anniversary 10 years and six days ago".

Instant divorce. :lol

10 years and six days since you became a softcock  :lol

Funny... I was just thinking earlier this morning "Brent hasn't posted in a few".  And... tada!  Good to 'see' you here mate.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on November 15, 2021, 06:59:45 PM
Is she ok??

She's fine. She has been suffering hip issues for years and had an impingement in her right hip. She essentially had bone spurs that were scraping when her hip moved through the joint. Surgeon also found her labrum completely detached sans one part that had been stapled in place some 8 years ago when she had the same surgery on the same hip. She now has 6 more holding the labrum in place. Just been a long day. Up at 5am and at the hospital at 6am.


Is she ok??

She's fine. She has been suffering hip issues for years and had an impingement in her right hip. She essentially had bone spurs that were scraping when her hip moved through the joint. Surgeon also found her labrum completely detached sans one part that had been stapled in place some 8 years ago when she had the same surgery on the same hip. She now has 6 more holding the labrum in place. Just been a long day. Up at 5am and at the hospital at 6am.

Oh that must've been painful for her.

A few years ago, I also had bone spurs in one of my hips and there were some days it fucking killed. And there's nothing you can do..heat/cold...it's IN the joint bone on bone. For me, I think they ground themselves down.

I have an impingement in my right shoulder that also kills.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 15, 2021, 08:34:15 PM
Yeah, I've heard bone spurs are brutal.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 16, 2021, 05:19:39 AM
Exactly 10 years ago and 6 days ago I started this thread.  That's insane.

Imagine celebrating your 10th wedding anniversary with this line, "Honey, Happy Anniversary 10 years and six days ago".

Instant divorce. :lol

10 years and six days since you became a softcock  :lol

Funny... I was just thinking earlier this morning "Brent hasn't posted in a few".  And... tada!  Good to 'see' you here mate.

Hey Chad - thanks...........I do check in very briefly most days to see what you guys are up to but don't find myself with much to say for various reasons - one of which is I rarely get to listen to music and second of which is the musical content in Tim's roulette  :biggrin: .  I managed to whack on a YT hair metal playlist yesterday (first listen to anything much in ages - new DT aside) and that must've got me back in the groove and inspired the quality post above  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on November 16, 2021, 08:54:57 AM
Is she ok??

She's fine. She has been suffering hip issues for years and had an impingement in her right hip. She essentially had bone spurs that were scraping when her hip moved through the joint. Surgeon also found her labrum completely detached sans one part that had been stapled in place some 8 years ago when she had the same surgery on the same hip. She now has 6 more holding the labrum in place. Just been a long day. Up at 5am and at the hospital at 6am.


Is she ok??

She's fine. She has been suffering hip issues for years and had an impingement in her right hip. She essentially had bone spurs that were scraping when her hip moved through the joint. Surgeon also found her labrum completely detached sans one part that had been stapled in place some 8 years ago when she had the same surgery on the same hip. She now has 6 more holding the labrum in place. Just been a long day. Up at 5am and at the hospital at 6am.

Oh that must've been painful for her.

A few years ago, I also had bone spurs in one of my hips and there were some days it fucking killed. And there's nothing you can do..heat/cold...it's IN the joint bone on bone. For me, I think they ground themselves down.

I have an impingement in my right shoulder that also kills.

Getting old is tons of fun. I'm 51 had 2 knee surgeries a few years back now I need a full left knee replacement. Just freakin' Awesome  :(
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on November 16, 2021, 12:00:59 PM
Is she ok??

She's fine. She has been suffering hip issues for years and had an impingement in her right hip. She essentially had bone spurs that were scraping when her hip moved through the joint. Surgeon also found her labrum completely detached sans one part that had been stapled in place some 8 years ago when she had the same surgery on the same hip. She now has 6 more holding the labrum in place. Just been a long day. Up at 5am and at the hospital at 6am.

At first I was like, "why is he talking about his wife's labrum so cavalierly!?!"  then I read it again.  They've done wonders with hips in recent years.  I know of people that have had hip replacements (the sockets, not the old school where they cut the femur off) and been home THAT DAY.  Hope she's okay (and hope you know the joke was meant in good spirits).
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 17, 2021, 12:54:42 PM
So the new Giant track is on YouTube. No Dann Huff - not Giant. Didnt mind the song to be fair but to call it Giant because of the rhythm section is a bit of a stretch. Im only listening on the tv and theres no bottom end which is grating on the ears, but might just be my tv.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2021, 01:07:38 PM
So the new Giant track is on YouTube. No Dann Huff - not Giant. Didnt mind the song to be fair but to call it Giant because of the rhythm section is a bit of a stretch. Im only listening on the tv and theres no bottom end which is grating on the ears, but might just be my tv.

They already did an album under the Giant title years ago without Dan Huff.  Haven't checked that but the last incarnation had Terry Brock and Jon Roth.  The album was average but had a few good melodic rock songs in there.  Not enough to save it though.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 01:08:38 PM
Uli Jon Roth??
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2021, 01:09:50 PM
Uli Jon Roth??

Nope, the Winger Jon Roth.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2021, 01:24:53 PM
Uli Jon Roth??

Nope, the Winger Jon Roth.  :lol

(https://i.imgur.com/X8H2Ljm.jpg)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 17, 2021, 01:37:24 PM
So the new Giant track is on YouTube. No Dann Huff - not Giant. Didnt mind the song to be fair but to call it Giant because of the rhythm section is a bit of a stretch. Im only listening on the tv and theres no bottom end which is grating on the ears, but might just be my tv.

They already did an album under the Giant title years ago without Dan Huff.  Haven't checked that but the last incarnation had Terry Brock and Jon Roth.  The album was average but had a few good melodic rock songs in there.  Not enough to save it though.

What is Dann Huff doing these days? That first Giant record is a melodic rock masterpiece imo.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 17, 2021, 03:12:04 PM
Is she ok??

She's fine. She has been suffering hip issues for years and had an impingement in her right hip. She essentially had bone spurs that were scraping when her hip moved through the joint. Surgeon also found her labrum completely detached sans one part that had been stapled in place some 8 years ago when she had the same surgery on the same hip. She now has 6 more holding the labrum in place. Just been a long day. Up at 5am and at the hospital at 6am.

At first I was like, "why is he talking about his wife's labrum so cavalierly!?!"  then I read it again.  They've done wonders with hips in recent years.  I know of people that have had hip replacements (the sockets, not the old school where they cut the femur off) and been home THAT DAY.  Hope she's okay (and hope you know the joke was meant in good spirits).

Eh, I'm a pro at this now. My son has had both hips operated on for impingement and labrum detachment before the age of 18 and this was my wife's second now. She's already been told she will need both hips replaced. They won't do it because she is too young.

No need to worry about jokes. That's usually how I handle tense situations.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 17, 2021, 03:22:20 PM
Uli Jon Roth??

Nope, the Winger Jon Roth.  :lol

(https://i.imgur.com/X8H2Ljm.jpg)

 :lol

John Roth is the other guitarist who replaced Paul Taylor.  He wasn't on those first two albums so you can cut him some slack.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 17, 2021, 05:05:29 PM
It sounds like Brazen Abbot with Thomas Vikstrom...........okay I guess but nothing like Giant apart from the lead guitar tone which he has obviously taken from Dann's effects patches.

What is Dann Huff doing these days? That first Giant record is a melodic rock masterpiece imo.

producing mega-albums in Nashville and earning a tiny bit more than he would keeping Giant alive :(   It's sad he didn't do more but Giant arrived at exactly the wrong time.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 18, 2021, 10:27:26 AM
It sounds like Brazen Abbot with Thomas Vikstrom...........okay I guess but nothing like Giant apart from the lead guitar tone which he has obviously taken from Dann's effects patches.

What is Dann Huff doing these days? That first Giant record is a melodic rock masterpiece imo.

producing mega-albums in Nashville and earning a tiny bit more than he would keeping Giant alive :(   It's sad he didn't do more but Giant arrived at exactly the wrong time.

Yeah, this. Modest sales or mega hits? Not much of a choice.
He had a great voice on album - not as good live. Stellar guitarist. Great songwriter. Yes that first Giant album is specia.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on November 18, 2021, 10:29:27 AM
Got my ticket for FM next week at the little venue 30 miles from here. Looking forward to it. Havent seen them since th3 early 90s.

Girlschool and Alcatrazz (with Dougie) are on tomorrow but havent decided if I can be arsed to go yet.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 18, 2021, 10:40:00 AM
It sounds like Brazen Abbot with Thomas Vikstrom...........okay I guess but nothing like Giant apart from the lead guitar tone which he has obviously taken from Dann's effects patches.

What is Dann Huff doing these days? That first Giant record is a melodic rock masterpiece imo.

producing mega-albums in Nashville and earning a tiny bit more than he would keeping Giant alive :(   It's sad he didn't do more but Giant arrived at exactly the wrong time.

Yeah, this. Modest sales or mega hits? Not much of a choice.
He had a great voice on album - not as good live. Stellar guitarist. Great songwriter. Yes that first Giant album is specia.

I can undestand that, but it's still a shame.

I saw Giant in a small club when they toured the first record. Huff's playing was great and he sang well, but they were ear-splittingly loud.  :D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2021, 06:40:41 PM
Got my ticket for FM next week at the little venue 30 miles from here. Looking forward to it. Havent seen them since th3 early 90s.

Girlschool and Alcatrazz (with Dougie) are on tomorrow but havent decided if I can be arsed to go yet.

FM are class.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2021, 06:41:49 PM
So the new Giant track is on YouTube. No Dann Huff - not Giant. Didnt mind the song to be fair but to call it Giant because of the rhythm section is a bit of a stretch. Im only listening on the tv and theres no bottom end which is grating on the ears, but might just be my tv.

This fucking sucked.  John Roth rips though.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on November 19, 2021, 06:46:21 PM
https://bravewords.com/news/the-ferrymen-featuring-ronnie-romero-magnus-karlsson-mike-terrana-to-release-one-more-river-to-cross-album-in-january-one-word-music-video-streaming
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 19, 2021, 07:30:42 PM
Interesting song.  The melodies aren't immediate at all.  Magnus seems to be at least trying to shake up his songwriting lately which is cool.  I'll spin it a couple more times.  He literally plays the same solo every song now though.  :lol

Still love him.  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 20, 2021, 06:08:03 AM
Yeah, I saw that yesterday.  The Ferrymen have been enjoyable for me, but not something I've gone back to very often.  I'll still look forward to this when it drops in Feb.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 09, 2021, 02:35:09 PM
Phew... just saved this from falling to page 3.  The shame!!!

Anyone listen to Creye II released earlier this year?  I just stumbled across it today (not sure how I missed it when it dropped in January).  Really nice (imo).  Solid... very solid - by Frontiers' standards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdQQKDH3P9Y
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 09, 2021, 02:59:36 PM
I dunno what Creye 1 is.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on December 09, 2021, 04:26:42 PM
Its great to see another Ronnie Atkins solo album coming out in March considering his health issues. Loved his last album "One Shot"!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 10, 2021, 05:51:45 AM
I dunno what Creye 1 is.  :lol

Creye is the band name... Creye II the album.  Check it out... I think you might dig it.  It's GOOD melodic rock.

Its great to see another Ronnie Atkins solo album coming out in March considering his health issues. Loved his last album "One Shot"!

Agreed.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on December 10, 2021, 10:42:45 AM
I dunno what Creye 1 is.  :lol

Creye is the band name... Creye II the album.  Check it out... I think you might dig it.  It's GOOD melodic rock.

Its great to see another Ronnie Atkins solo album coming out in March considering his health issues. Loved his last album "One Shot"!

Agreed.

Creye is an excellent band!!!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 11, 2021, 05:29:25 AM
I'll have to make a note.  I still have this Rob guy Chad told me to check out yet.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 11, 2021, 03:56:01 PM
I'll have to make a note.  I still have this Rob guy Chad told me to check out yet.

Robledo!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on December 11, 2021, 04:45:27 PM
I'll have to make a note.  I still have this Rob guy Chad told me to check out yet.

Robledo!

Great album! Hes also the singer of Sinners Blood.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 12, 2021, 03:47:02 AM
It's incredible that I created this thread and now I haven't got a damn clue who any of these people are these days.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on December 12, 2021, 09:53:24 AM
It's incredible that I created this thread and now I haven't got a damn clue who any of these people are these days.

Cut yourself a break because Frontiers releases between 6 to 8 releases every month and lately added  a lot of new bands/artists to their roster.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on December 12, 2021, 09:55:11 AM
The worst part about Heart Healer is the lyrics. The singing and music is good, but the lyrics and melodies aren't cutting it. It reminds me of Genius.

I've been listening to this a lot lately. The lyrics are still not the best, but I'm enjoying it a lot more now. Besides the lyrics, (which I can give a pass) my only other real gripe is that most of the songs use the same vocal melody phrasing. It's 3 notes. I know it's a concept album so maybe it could pass as a motif, but it just sounds like lazy writing.

The story reminds me of Pyramaze's Legend of the Bone Carver, which is a great album. Some could argue the lyrics are just as bad, and I might agree, but they do it better.

I'll give the album a 7 out of 10.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on December 12, 2021, 10:26:20 AM
The worst part about Heart Healer is the lyrics. The singing and music is good, but the lyrics and melodies aren't cutting it. It reminds me of Genius.

I've been listening to this a lot lately. The lyrics are still not the best, but I'm enjoying it a lot more now. Besides the lyrics, (which I can give a pass) my only other real gripe is that most of the songs use the same vocal melody phrasing. It's 3 notes. I know it's a concept album so maybe it could pass as a motif, but it just sounds like lazy writing.

The story reminds me of Pyramaze's Legend of the Bone Carver, which is a great album. Some could argue the lyrics are just as bad, and I might agree, but they do it better.

I'll give the album a 7 out of 10.

The guitar is mixed too low which sucks because Magnus has an amazing tone. I do like the songs a lot though. Pyramaze Legend. is a very catchy album, still listen to it. Nightmare records had some pretty kick ass releases. Small labels are disappearing as bands either go indie or sign with the bigger labels.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 15, 2021, 05:21:42 PM
Is that Mr Lowdz I see giving it to the Frontiers bosses on Facebook?   :lol

I deduct 1 point for not using the phrase "softcock shit" , so my rating is 9/10
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 15, 2021, 07:06:30 PM
Is that Mr Lowdz I see giving it to the Frontiers bosses on Facebook?   :lol

I deduct 1 point for not using the phrase "softcock shit" , so my rating is 9/10

Lol WTF, tell me more!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 15, 2021, 08:41:44 PM
https://www.facebook.com/frontiersmusicsrl/posts/4632682810121067


Del Vicciona has a new stable mate.......the well might finally be running dry :)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 15, 2021, 09:11:27 PM
https://www.facebook.com/frontiersmusicsrl/posts/4632682810121067


Del Vicciona has a new stable mate.......the well might finally be running dry :)

Is he the Italian Desmond Child? Sure sounds like it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on December 15, 2021, 09:15:44 PM
Frontiers punches out many albums a year. I hear Elio and Serafino are less than kind humans to put it nicely.

Alessandro Del Vecchio and I'm pretty sure Simone Mularoni are on a retainer for them to do a lot of the writing and production for them. This is why a lot of the releases are starting to sound the same. I love a lot of their stuff but its getting watered down.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2021, 04:06:14 AM
https://www.facebook.com/frontiersmusicsrl/posts/4632682810121067


Del Vicciona has a new stable mate.......the well might finally be running dry :)

Bah!  Don't have Facebook so can't see it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2021, 04:08:05 AM
https://www.facebook.com/frontiersmusicsrl/posts/4632682810121067


Del Vicciona has a new stable mate.......the well might finally be running dry :)

Is he the Italian Desmond Child? Sure sounds like it.

Didn't Desmond Child write some good songs though?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2021, 04:22:06 AM
Frontiers punches out many albums a year. I hear Elio and Serafino are less than kind humans to put it nicely.

Alessandro Del Vecchio and I'm pretty sure Simone Mularoni are on a retainer for them to do a lot of the writing and production for them. This is why a lot of the releases are starting to sound the same. I love a lot of their stuff but its getting watered down.

They have done this all along really.  Magnus Karlsson, Erik Martensson, Daniel Flores, Timor Tolkki even, Dennis Ward, Robert Sall, there have always had a pretty decent roster rotating the songwriters but they seemed to have a few more quality ones back in the day sharing the load.  Those two you mentioned are the two big ones but Del Vicchio just doesn't fucking go away!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2021, 04:31:59 AM
Speaking of Magnus;

https://youtu.be/HUiNPFr0fg8

New Ferrymen.  This one is pretty nice.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 16, 2021, 07:50:23 AM
https://www.facebook.com/frontiersmusicsrl/posts/4632682810121067


Del Vicciona has a new stable mate.......the well might finally be running dry :)

#I got into a bit of a spat with them on Facebook when I criticised this yesterday. I held back my reply and rewrote if several times. thought better of posting what I wanted to say.

They must have drained Del Veccio's back catalogue. They cited the example of Desmond Child writing with bands to me  :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 16, 2021, 07:54:27 AM
https://www.facebook.com/frontiersmusicsrl/posts/4632682810121067


Del Vicciona has a new stable mate.......the well might finally be running dry :)

Bah!  Don't have Facebook so can't see it.

Just give in. It's not even trendy now - so my kids tell me!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on December 16, 2021, 10:21:03 AM
Frontiers punches out many albums a year. I hear Elio and Serafino are less than kind humans to put it nicely.

Alessandro Del Vecchio and I'm pretty sure Simone Mularoni are on a retainer for them to do a lot of the writing and production for them. This is why a lot of the releases are starting to sound the same. I love a lot of their stuff but its getting watered down.

They have done this all along really.  Magnus Karlsson, Erik Martensson, Daniel Flores, Timor Tolkki even, Dennis Ward, Robert Sall, there have always had a pretty decent roster rotating the songwriters but they seemed to have a few more quality ones back in the day sharing the load.  Those two you mentioned are the two big ones but Del Vicchio just doesn't fucking go away!

Very true actually. They really put out some kick ass albums but some just sound sterile and uninspired.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 16, 2021, 10:34:30 AM
Speaking of Magnus;

https://youtu.be/HUiNPFr0fg8

New Ferrymen.  This one is pretty nice.

Magnus + Ronnie is always gonna be a win for me.  Sounded about as good as the last album - which I haven't gone back to much, tbh.  I should remedy that.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 16, 2021, 01:15:52 PM
I see there is a new album from Murder Of My Sweet, and strangely its a sequel to another bands album - the very great Minds Eye album A Gentlemans Hurricane. how very prog the link is songwriter, drummer, keyboard player, producer Daniel Flores.

Apparently it follows the daughter of the hitman from the first album.

https://youtu.be/O0OcjtEih4o

Just coming back to this one.  It dropped recently.  Really nice musically, but I don't think it fits with the vocalist from Murder of My Sweet.  She's just a little too ... plain?  Uninteresting?  I don't know the right description.  She's not bad, but just doesn't click for me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on December 16, 2021, 02:09:45 PM
I see there is a new album from Murder Of My Sweet, and strangely its a sequel to another bands album - the very great Minds Eye album A Gentlemans Hurricane. how very prog the link is songwriter, drummer, keyboard player, producer Daniel Flores.

Apparently it follows the daughter of the hitman from the first album.

https://youtu.be/O0OcjtEih4o

Just coming back to this one.  It dropped recently.  Really nice musically, but I don't think it fits with the vocalist from Murder of My Sweet.  She's just a little too ... plain?  Uninteresting?  I don't know the right description.  She's not bad, but just doesn't click for me.

Jingle Balls, I think this is their best album. I love Mind's Eye so I'm sure that factors in.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on December 16, 2021, 02:30:42 PM
Jingle Balls. :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 16, 2021, 02:50:16 PM
Jingle Balls. :rollin

That's what they do this time of year!

Glasser ... It probably is their best album, but given my absolute love for A Gentlemen's Hurricane, I'm felt a little let down with the vocals on this one.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on December 16, 2021, 02:58:28 PM
Jingle Balls. :rollin

That's what they do this time of year!

Glasser ... It probably is their best album, but given my absolute love for A Gentlemen's Hurricane, I'm felt a little let down with the vocals on this one.

From that perspective I completely agree. I compare it to the other Murder of my Sweet albums. I wish Mind's Eye did a follow up.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2021, 03:39:47 PM
https://www.facebook.com/frontiersmusicsrl/posts/4632682810121067


Del Vicciona has a new stable mate.......the well might finally be running dry :)

#I got into a bit of a spat with them on Facebook when I criticised this yesterday. I held back my reply and rewrote if several times. thought better of posting what I wanted to say.

They must have drained Del Veccio's back catalogue. They cited the example of Desmond Child writing with bands to me  :lol :lol :lol

Criticised what?  Tell me dammit!!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 16, 2021, 04:23:37 PM
https://www.facebook.com/frontiersmusicsrl/posts/4632682810121067


Del Vicciona has a new stable mate.......the well might finally be running dry :)

#I got into a bit of a spat with them on Facebook when I criticised this yesterday. I held back my reply and rewrote if several times. thought better of posting what I wanted to say.

They must have drained Del Veccio's back catalogue. They cited the example of Desmond Child writing with bands to me  :lol :lol :lol

Criticised what?  Tell me dammit!!

It's on Facebook.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on December 16, 2021, 04:29:40 PM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 16, 2021, 04:30:32 PM
 :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 17, 2021, 02:20:04 AM
https://www.facebook.com/frontiersmusicsrl/posts/4632682810121067


Del Vicciona has a new stable mate.......the well might finally be running dry :)

#I got into a bit of a spat with them on Facebook when I criticised this yesterday. I held back my reply and rewrote if several times. thought better of posting what I wanted to say.

They must have drained Del Veccio's back catalogue. They cited the example of Desmond Child writing with bands to me  :lol :lol :lol

Criticised what?  Tell me dammit!!

Adding another staff writer to churn out generic shite for the likes of Issa, Giant etc.
You would have known if you weren't such a luddite!  :lol :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2021, 04:41:56 AM
Screw you bullies, I just checked the website!

Italian pop writer, X Factor, WTF?!  :facepalm:

Good lord!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 17, 2021, 05:45:42 AM
Screw you bullies, I just checked the website!

Italian pop writer, X Factor, WTF?!  :facepalm:

Good lord!

But he's the new Desmond Child!! ;)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 17, 2021, 08:18:56 AM
:facepalm: :facepalm:

I'm with you, man. No Facebook here. No MySpace either. I don't participate in social media at all. I have a private Twitter solely to get news from various musicians. Never posted on it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 17, 2021, 09:12:01 AM
Screw you bullies, I just checked the website!

Italian pop writer, X Factor, WTF?!  :facepalm:

Good lord!

But he's the new Desmond Child!! ;)

At least Desmond Child has worked with some of the bigger rock acts and some of his tunes are actually good.

Oh, and you can read Paul comments just fine if you follow the link. Don't have to have a facebook account.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2021, 06:56:13 PM
I can see the page on my PC but not on my phone, weird.

Ah ha, I see the Desmond Child reference!  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 17, 2021, 09:13:08 PM
Guess we all went the Desmond Child route.  :lol

I didn't see his comments at all. I just got a Desmond vibe when reading about the guy. Great minds think alike!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 17, 2021, 11:43:07 PM
Guess we all went the Desmond Child route.  :lol

I didn't see his comments at all. I just got a Desmond vibe when reading about the guy. Great minds think alike!

Ha!  Outstanding!  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 18, 2022, 02:10:37 PM
https://youtu.be/OHkesx0e9g4

Latest from Frontiers. Its come to this. That is as cliched, bland and uninspired as the song title itself. Is there a band that hasnt done a song called In The Heat Of The Night? If there is, they probably come from where I live where its pretty much never hot in the night! 😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2022, 03:40:03 PM
You know what Paul, I sampled that the other night because the generic nature of the title and it was so cliche and generic, I actually didn't mind it.  I'm not sure why though but thought it was better than most if the shut they've been putting out.  Call me crazy.

I will add, the last few nights over here have been hot as hell.  Its too hot to sleep.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 18, 2022, 03:43:09 PM
  Call me crazy.

(https://c.tenor.com/bRWynsfhWQsAAAAC/you-full-blown-crazy-crazy.gif)



You know what Paul, I sampled that the other night because the generic nature of the title and it was so cliche and generic, I actually didn't mind it.  I'm not sure why though but thought it was better than most if the shit they've been putting out. 

That makes two of us.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2022, 03:55:12 PM
Really Tim?  I don't believe it!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 18, 2022, 03:56:12 PM
I've heard way worse. The dude had a little Coverdale in his voice.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 18, 2022, 04:07:26 PM
Yeah, his voice was the main thing for me too.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 19, 2022, 04:43:35 AM
https://youtu.be/OHkesx0e9g4

Latest from Frontiers. Its come to this. That is as cliched, bland and uninspired as the song title itself. Is there a band that hasnt done a song called In The Heat Of The Night? If there is, they probably come from where I live where its pretty much never hot in the night! 😁

Yeah, that was tripe.

Still better than Dream Theater's latest efforts.  :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 19, 2022, 02:00:59 PM
I predict they will do a song called Promised Land - and rhyme it with take my hand 😁😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 19, 2022, 02:28:31 PM
Followed up by the ballad Can't Let You Go.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2022, 02:34:05 PM
With the sequel, Holding On.

Then the feel good, Never Give Up.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on January 19, 2022, 02:36:29 PM
With the lyrics " I don't know where I'm going but I know where I've been"
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 19, 2022, 02:38:01 PM
Seems like we've identified every track from side 1 of the album:

In The Heat Of The Night
Promised Land
Can't Let You Go
Holding On
Changes

Not a single track longer than 4 minutes.

We could be the Frontiers creative team!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2022, 02:40:42 PM
Del Viccwho?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on January 19, 2022, 02:51:57 PM
Seems like we've identified every track from side 1 of the album:

In The Heat Of The Night
Promised Land
Can't Let You Go
Holding On
Changes

Not a single track longer than 4 minutes.

We could be the Frontiers creative team!

You forgot the song "Lonely Nights"  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 19, 2022, 02:56:24 PM
Were not finished yet. There must be at least three songs with lovemin the title. 😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 19, 2022, 02:57:47 PM
In My Heart
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 19, 2022, 03:00:23 PM
And we have to have a song where we use rock instead of fuck!

And a song about how much we love the radio, even thought the music will never be played on the radio!

Have we missed any?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 19, 2022, 03:06:55 PM
And we have to have a song where we use rock instead of fuck!

And a song about how much we love the radio, even thought the music will never be played on the radio!

Have we missed any?

1987
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 19, 2022, 03:12:01 PM
And we have to have a song where we use rock instead of fuck!

Time To Rock


Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on January 19, 2022, 03:12:46 PM
A few more:

Rock me tonight or Love Me Tonight
On The Loose
Where Are You Now?
Tears in my heart
Sleepless nights.


(now I'm getting in the mood for the Melidian album).  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2022, 03:14:19 PM
This is turning into a double album.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 19, 2022, 03:25:55 PM
I figured they'd give one albums worth of material to the Heart Of One project, and then create another project called One Heart and give them the rest.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on January 19, 2022, 05:46:54 PM
I figured they'd give one albums worth of material to the Heart Of One project, and then create another project called One Heart and give them the rest.

Or,  We can just collaborate here and record a double album as the DTF band. I'm sure their are plenty of musicians here and I'm a vocalist (Ron Thal was my vocal teacher in the 90's) so I can nail all the cliche high notes,, lol!  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2022, 06:20:32 PM
I should be able to handle guitars for this kind of music.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 19, 2022, 06:20:56 PM
Heck, Paul should be able to play these songs. ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on January 19, 2022, 06:39:43 PM
I should be able to handle guitars for this kind of music.

If you record an acoustic version of Who's The One from Winger I'll record the vocals so you can hear my style. I sing in a Toto, Lou Gramm, Kip style but could hit the highs.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 19, 2022, 06:56:16 PM
Kip style?  :lol WTF?  :lol :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on January 19, 2022, 06:58:45 PM
Kip style?  :lol WTF?  :lol :lol

 :tup I guess what I mean is I can handle 80's style.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2022, 07:26:07 PM
Kip style?  :lol WTF?  :lol :lol

 :rollin

The only style, motherfucker!  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2022, 07:27:22 PM
I should be able to handle guitars for this kind of music.

If you record an acoustic version of Who's The One from Winger I'll record the vocals so you can hear my style. I sing in a Toto, Lou Gramm, Kip style but could hit the highs.

Let's do Seventeen instead!  Tim can play drums.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 19, 2022, 07:47:58 PM
I should be able to handle guitars for this kind of music.

If you record an acoustic version of Who's The One from Winger I'll record the vocals so you can hear my style. I sing in a Toto, Lou Gramm, Kip style but could hit the highs.

Let's do Seventeen instead!  Tim can play drums.

I knew I was headed for a heartbreak as soon as I popped into this thread.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2022, 08:04:20 PM
I should be able to handle guitars for this kind of music.

If you record an acoustic version of Who's The One from Winger I'll record the vocals so you can hear my style. I sing in a Toto, Lou Gramm, Kip style but could hit the highs.

Let's do Seventeen instead!  Tim can play drums.

I knew I was headed for a heartbreak as soon as I popped into this thread.

If I wasn't on my phone, I'd post my favourite nod of approval gif.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 19, 2022, 08:09:25 PM
I should be able to handle guitars for this kind of music.

If you record an acoustic version of Who's The One from Winger I'll record the vocals so you can hear my style. I sing in a Toto, Lou Gramm, Kip style but could hit the highs.

Let's do Seventeen instead!  Tim can play drums.

I knew I was headed for a heartbreak as soon as I popped into this thread.

(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2019/07/meme.gif)

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/f9e234e0dd2693931dec4e086a9ff2fa/tenor.gif)

I got you!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2022, 08:34:50 PM
Thanks buddy!  :tup
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 19, 2022, 08:38:05 PM
Both my favourites!  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 20, 2022, 06:50:23 AM
Heck, Paul should be able to play these songs. ;D

On a good day 😁😁😁

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 20, 2022, 03:52:45 PM
We need a song with a girls name in it. In honour of our Aussie friends I propose Sheila! 😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on January 20, 2022, 04:52:13 PM
We need a song with a girls name in it. In honour of our Aussie friends I propose Sheila! 😁

Come on Eileen or "come" on Orianthi!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on January 20, 2022, 08:25:41 PM
And the smash hit, Inspire.

"Grab hold of everything you desire, like a fire, for all you inspire!!!"

Pretty sure that didn't make any sense, but damn if I don't feel uplifted.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Grappler on February 22, 2022, 09:56:42 AM
So who's ready for some Frontiers drama?  (Edit - apparently Dino Jelusic's beef with Frontiers goes back several years, which I didn't know about.  So this might be old news to some, but it's crazy that Frontiers can make a copyright claim on something they have no copyright for.)

1.  Dino Jelusic shares an unreleased version of a song from the new Star One record that he originally sang the vocals for on Youtube.  He has Arjen's permission to share the song, as it was not used on the album itself.

2.  Frontiers Records gets the video taken down from Youtube due to a copyright claim, even though Inside Out owns the copyright for the song.

3.  Dino shared the following message on his social media:

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Hey everyone.

I wanna congratulate Frontiers Records (Mario De Riso and Serafino Perugino) for yet another false, fraudulent and illegal claim they made on my YouTube chanel. They reported my "star one" video that fully belongs to Arjen and Inside Out (inside out even made CLAIM which means they OWN IT and gave me permission to keep it and they are the COPYRIGHT OWNERS of it). YouTube wake up.

Of course I'm gonna get it back because I never post something which I don't have the right to.

Im not gonna be silent anymore about this  career and now personal abusment Frontiers Records have been playing on me while the court is still going for 2 freakin years. It also affects mental health.

Just so you know who they are and how they work.

4.  Frontiers Responds with this:

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It has recently come to our attention that the Artist Mr. Dino Jelusic made a public statement in which he complains about Frontiers "illegal and fraudulent activity" aimed at claiming the copyright on the recording of the song 'The Year of 41 an alleged outtake of a song included in the new STAR ONE album. Once again Mr. Jelusic - as it has already happened in the past - releases statements addressed to Frontiers which are blatantly incorrect and ultimately false.

In relation to it mr. Jelusic and Frontiers have a lawsuit that is currently pending in front of the court of Naples, Italy. Frontiers believes that it contractually has the rights to the exclusive services of Mr. Dino Jelusic for recordings. The Artist had initially recognized this agreement, but subsequently, and without any explanation, refused and even denied such right to exist. Therefore, for as long as he will be continuing to behave in breach of that exclusivity clause, Frontiers will have to act in defense of its interests which continue to be damaged by his behaviors.
For the record mr. Jelusic himself, when he released the single in question stated:

I ORIGINALLY SANG ON THE NEW STAR ONE ALBUM BUT DUE TO SOME LEGAL ISSUES I WAS UNFORTUNATELY PULLED OUT OF IT. WITH THE PERMISSION FROM ARJEN I DECIDED TO UPLOAD MY VERSION, THIS IS UNOFFICIAL. OFFICIAL ALBUM VERSION WAS SUNG BY MY HERO AND NOW A FRIEND MR. JOE LYNN TURNER AND MIDDLE SECTIONS BY MY ANOTHER FRIEND, THE AMAZING...

Mr. Jelusic evidently already knew that the song could not appear on the record for legal issues and that the song could not be released without Frontiers written permission. The label looks forward to resolve any issue with whoever owns the song master in order to avoid any issue between labels who are competitors but which respect each others businesses.

Frontiers - and its personnel - therefore does not believe to have done any abuse. Frontiers is only acting in defense of the rights that believes are stated in the existing agreement with mr. Jelusic. We understand and share the disappointment of many fans and we all hope this unpleasant story can finish sooner than later.

For further info:
https://www.facebook.com/frontiersmusicsrl/posts/4127043900684963

It seems as if Dino is under contract with Frontiers and they "own" him and are making his life hell for trying to work on other projects outside of Frontiers.  When someone asked him about how he was able to sing on Michael Romeo's new record, this was his response:

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I would love to publicly write about it (so would Romeo) but we decided to keep quiet till the court is over. They made a big mess outta romeo album.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 22, 2022, 10:27:07 AM
I saw that from Frontiers ... and considering most of their output is shit, I can easily be convinced that their business practices are shit too.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on February 22, 2022, 10:41:58 AM
I saw that from Frontiers ... and considering most of their output is shit, I can easily be convinced that their business practices are shit too.

I feel deja vu here and am seeing visions of Scarlett Johansen in my peripheral vision, but if, big if, but IF, the contract says what Frontiers says it does, this isn't about shitty business practices, it's about a grown man making a decision then backing out on it to someone else's detriment, then crying butthurt when he doesn't get his way.  It's not the '60s anymore; if a contract says "you will be exclusive to us", that's what it means. EXCLUSIVE.  Excluding all others. 

Granted I don't know Dino from the guy who plows my driveway (that would be me) but still, this doesn't sound like shitty business practices, it sounds more like a couple of children who need their mom to stop this car.  I read the two postings above, and it's clear the second was written by someone with a moderately objective (that is, unemotional) take on things, whereas the first one might as well have been written in crayon.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 22, 2022, 10:44:22 AM
Dino should probably have read the small print.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Grappler on February 22, 2022, 10:47:02 AM
I saw that from Frontiers ... and considering most of their output is shit, I can easily be convinced that their business practices are shit too.

I feel deja vu here and am seeing visions of Scarlett Johansen in my peripheral vision, but if, big if, but IF, the contract says what Frontiers says it does, this isn't about shitty business practices, it's about a grown man making a decision then backing out on it to someone else's detriment, then crying butthurt when he doesn't get his way.  It's not the '60s anymore; if a contract says "you will be exclusive to us", that's what it means. EXCLUSIVE.  Excluding all others. 

Granted I don't know Dino from the guy who plows my driveway (that would be me) but still, this doesn't sound like shitty business practices, it sounds more like a couple of children who need their mom to stop this car.  I read the two postings above, and it's clear the second was written by someone with a moderately objective (that is, unemotional) take on things, whereas the first one might as well have been written in crayon.

I agree with all of that....I saw a comment in the link that Frontiers provided from last summer where they said that people can work outside of their contract and implied that Dino hadn't communicated his intent to do so multiple times. 

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 22, 2022, 11:47:38 AM
I saw that from Frontiers ... and considering most of their output is shit, I can easily be convinced that their business practices are shit too.

I feel deja vu here and am seeing visions of Scarlett Johansen in my peripheral vision, but if, big if, but IF, the contract says what Frontiers says it does, this isn't about shitty business practices, it's about a grown man making a decision then backing out on it to someone else's detriment, then crying butthurt when he doesn't get his way.  It's not the '60s anymore; if a contract says "you will be exclusive to us", that's what it means. EXCLUSIVE.  Excluding all others. 

Granted I don't know Dino from the guy who plows my driveway (that would be me) but still, this doesn't sound like shitty business practices, it sounds more like a couple of children who need their mom to stop this car.  I read the two postings above, and it's clear the second was written by someone with a moderately objective (that is, unemotional) take on things, whereas the first one might as well have been written in crayon.

All fair, and if his contract with Frontiers is tantamount to a 24x7 'anything you create / record is ours' type of thing, then yeah... sucks to be him - for having signed that kind of deal, and then gotten caught at breaking it.

There are three sides to every story, and we don't know what the truth is, that's for sure.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 22, 2022, 11:56:26 AM
another thing that just occurred to me ... Jelusick has been a regular touring member of TSO the past few years, so it's not like Frontiers "owns" everything of his, and I'd assume he knows the confines / restrictions of his contract.  Like I said, it wouldn't take much to convince me that Frontiers is in the wrong - although I don't know (or care for that matter) at the moment.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on February 22, 2022, 12:48:15 PM
another thing that just occurred to me ... Jelusick has been a regular touring member of TSO the past few years, so it's not like Frontiers "owns" everything of his, and I'd assume he knows the confines / restrictions of his contract.  Like I said, it wouldn't take much to convince me that Frontiers is in the wrong - although I don't know (or care for that matter) at the moment.

The key line is: "Frontiers believes that it contractually has the rights to the exclusive services of Mr. Dino Jelusic for recordings."

I would think being a touring member of TSO isn't a problem, unless and until TSO decides to release something recorded (it's not clear if "recordings" is limited to studio productions or covers ANY recorded performance).
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2022, 01:18:44 PM
I saw that from Frontiers ... and considering most of their output is shit, I can easily be convinced that their business practices are shit too.

I feel deja vu here and am seeing visions of Scarlett Johansen in my peripheral vision, but if, big if, but IF, the contract says what Frontiers says it does, this isn't about shitty business practices, it's about a grown man making a decision then backing out on it to someone else's detriment, then crying butthurt when he doesn't get his way.  It's not the '60s anymore; if a contract says "you will be exclusive to us", that's what it means. EXCLUSIVE.  Excluding all others. 

Granted I don't know Dino from the guy who plows my driveway (that would be me) but still, this doesn't sound like shitty business practices, it sounds more like a couple of children who need their mom to stop this car.  I read the two postings above, and it's clear the second was written by someone with a moderately objective (that is, unemotional) take on things, whereas the first one might as well have been written in crayon.

Easily the best part out of this whole conversation.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: goo-goo on February 22, 2022, 01:24:29 PM
Toto (Steve Lukather) also had an issue with Frontiers were Toto believed they had fulfilled their contract obligations as far as albums go and I believe they settled or released a live/compilation/studio album (don't remember exactly how they resolved the issue). This issue is covered in Steve's book.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2022, 01:38:49 PM
Don't forget JLT having an issue with the whole Sunstorm thing.  Regardless if Dino is in the wrong here, Frontiers aren't having a very good track record.  So something is going wrong their end.

Simone Mularoni too with the whole Geoff Tate thing also another one.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Grappler on February 22, 2022, 01:49:09 PM
Simone Mularoni too with the whole Geoff Tate thing also another one.

That was a Geoff Tate issue alone - he dicked Simone around, re-writing the music and recording sub-par vocals.  I give Simone a ton of credit for making that first record sound so good. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on February 22, 2022, 01:59:40 PM
Most of their releases are rehashed crap that all sounds the same. They have an occasional gem but lately its been lame. How these guys pump out 8 to 10 releases a month is beyond me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2022, 02:10:35 PM
Simone Mularoni too with the whole Geoff Tate thing also another one.

That was a Geoff Tate issue alone - he dicked Simone around, re-writing the music and recording sub-par vocals.  I give Simone a ton of credit for making that first record sound so good.

I thought that, but thought Frontiers had something to do with it also, but yeah, Simone made that a really good album.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2022, 02:11:05 PM
Most of their releases are rehashed crap that all sounds the same. They have an occasional gem but lately its been lame. How these guys pump out 8 to 10 releases a month is beyond me.

Hence why I changed the title of my own thread to what it is now!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on February 22, 2022, 02:32:26 PM
Most of their releases are rehashed crap that all sounds the same. They have an occasional gem but lately its been lame. How these guys pump out 8 to 10 releases a month is beyond me.

Hence why I changed the title of my own thread to what it is now!

 :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 22, 2022, 03:06:39 PM
Actually, to be fair, I thought it was still called the Frontiers Factory for a second when I posted that.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 23, 2022, 05:57:45 AM
this spat is ridiculous. A contract is a contract, though the wording is often obscure and open to interpretation.

But, like in football (proper football, not the one American's play with their hands  :biggrin:) if a player doesn't want o to play  for the team it's not worth forcing them to. No one wins in that. All that would happen if it is upheld is that Dino would churn out mediocre albums (well, would anyone notice on Frontiers?) as the "contractual obligation" album. No one would but it. What's the point? He s hardly going to make them millions is he?

I have no sympathy for record companies, they have milked artists and fans for decades, especially taking advantage of desperate newcomers on multialbum deals, but also don't sign anything you don't want to be bound by. Simple really.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 23, 2022, 06:48:18 AM
Most of their releases are rehashed crap that all sounds the same. They have an occasional gem but lately its been lame. How these guys pump out 8 to 10 releases a month is beyond me.

Hence why I changed the title of my own thread to what it is now!

At my request so we can split the credit for that brilliant title  :hat  :lol

Dino has some balls - those Frontiers guys just keep on coming if you get on their bad side.  I have wondered from time to time if their business model is just so amazing in a pretty dead genre or whether perhaps profits are secondary and it might be operating as a "laundry" for some other "legit" family businesses .  Maybe I've watched too many movies  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 23, 2022, 07:07:14 AM
Most of their releases are rehashed crap that all sounds the same. They have an occasional gem but lately its been lame. How these guys pump out 8 to 10 releases a month is beyond me.

Hence why I changed the title of my own thread to what it is now!

At my request so we can split the credit for that brilliant title  :hat  :lol

Dino has some balls - those Frontiers guys just keep on coming if you get on their bad side.  I have wondered from time to time if their business model is just so amazing in a pretty dead genre or whether perhaps profits are secondary and it might be operating as a "laundry" for some other "legit" family businesses .  Maybe I've watched too many movies  ;D

It would explain alot. They can't be making money. I know albums don't cost much to make, and advertising won't be extensive. Most are projects they don't tour so aren't making money that way. you may be onto something  :biggrin:.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Madman Shepherd on February 23, 2022, 09:45:43 AM
No posts on the $5 CD and $15-20 vinyl sale?

https://frontiers-us.shop/collections/5-cds
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 23, 2022, 11:31:32 AM
I did listen to the Mecca 3 cd retrospective last night. That was very enjoyable.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 23, 2022, 12:53:26 PM
No posts on the $5 CD and $15-20 vinyl sale?

https://frontiers-us.shop/collections/5-cds

Some semi decent stuff in here.  Probably not worth it getting it shipped to me though.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 23, 2022, 01:51:50 PM
Anything in there that I'm interested in, I already own.  Pre-Spotify, I might've taken a flyer on some of these for shits and giggles ... now if I just want to try/sample/explore, I do it in Spotify first.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 05, 2022, 05:39:38 AM
It's not a Frontiers release (it's on AFM), but I'm digging the new Serious Black album - way better than the last 3.5 turds (I'd call Mirrorworld 1/2 a turd) they dropped.  Ever since Roland left, the writing was crap.  They dropped Urban as a vocalist, in favor of Nikola Mijić that some might know from Powerworld and Eden's Curse.  I also liked him in Expedition Delta and Dreylands, so it helps having a voice I like - Urban is very much hit/miss for me, and it's been a big miss the past few albums from Serious Black.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MoraWintersoul on March 05, 2022, 07:20:00 AM
They dropped Urban as a vocalist, in favor of Nikola Mijić that some might know from Powerworld and Eden's Curse.
Mora and Mladen: oh, right, he was in those bands too :biggrin:

If you quite like him, you should probably listen to the first few (I think people like the first three?) Alogia albums. Wasn't my thing, either back in the day, or now, but would be interesting to hear your take on 'em!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 08, 2022, 02:03:50 PM
It's not a Frontiers release (it's on AFM), but I'm digging the new Serious Black album - way better than the last 3.5 turds (I'd call Mirrorworld 1/2 a turd) they dropped.  Ever since Roland left, the writing was crap.  They dropped Urban as a vocalist, in favor of Nikola Mijić that some might know from Powerworld and Eden's Curse.  I also liked him in Expedition Delta and Dreylands, so it helps having a voice I like - Urban is very much hit/miss for me, and it's been a big miss the past few albums from Serious Black.

I gave it a listen the other day. Didnt do anything for me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 09, 2022, 08:52:03 AM
I think I must be going soft, but I listened to a Work Of Art compilation on Youtube the other day, and the Creye album, and really enjoye dboth. Someone please call a doctor, or a therapist  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2022, 09:49:12 AM
I thought the Creye release last year (Creye II, right?) was really enjoyable.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on March 09, 2022, 12:37:01 PM
I thought the Creye release last year (Creye II, right?) was really enjoyable.

Very underrated album!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 09, 2022, 12:46:49 PM
I think I must be going soft, but I listened to a Work Of Art compilation on Youtube the other day, and the Creye album, and really enjoye dboth. Someone please call a doctor, or a therapist  :lol

Nah, Work of Art are upper class of the genre.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 09, 2022, 02:31:40 PM
One for Tim 😁

https://youtu.be/unWvkG6XLo0
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2022, 02:33:48 PM
One for Tim 😁

https://youtu.be/unWvkG6XLo0

People actually went on a cruise in 2022 already?  Wow, that takes some pills.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Trav86 on March 09, 2022, 02:41:20 PM
I thought the Creye release last year (Creye II, right?) was really enjoyable.

Very underrated album!

Agreed!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MinistroRaven on March 10, 2022, 08:08:05 AM
Hahaha this is lame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otU3s1qLHJA
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 13, 2022, 11:40:41 AM
Hahaha this is lame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otU3s1qLHJA

Almost posted this the other day but its just too cringey. More importantly, I bagsied the brunette, the rest of you can fight over the blonde 😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on March 13, 2022, 05:25:36 PM
The point in the video when you know it's gonna be fresh, top quality stuff

(https://i.postimg.cc/vBdP36H9/adv.png)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on March 13, 2022, 05:47:08 PM
It's a shame about the band name because they are in fact, not a big deal.

Is The Magnificent the only Frontiers creation in the last 10 years that doesn't suck? Yes, that band is derivative as hell, but they made it work without being lame or cringey. I like the AOR style, but all these bands are fucking stupid.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2022, 10:59:55 PM
The point in the video when you know it's gonna be fresh, top quality stuff

(https://i.postimg.cc/vBdP36H9/adv.png)

Surely there's someone else out there than him.  Surely......anyone!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on March 13, 2022, 11:20:15 PM
Hahaha this is lame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otU3s1qLHJA
What the hell is this? This is terrible! Plus everyone in that band looks completely strung out.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 14, 2022, 05:05:27 AM
Hahaha this is lame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otU3s1qLHJA

This is indeed absolutely fucking atrocious.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MinistroRaven on March 14, 2022, 06:27:16 AM
Someone gotta tell the labels owner to stop.

I bet he wont, but come on, in his mind its quantity over quality, and thats not good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 14, 2022, 05:50:48 PM
The point in the video when you know it's gonna be fresh, top quality stuff

(https://i.postimg.cc/vBdP36H9/adv.png)

Its like the opposite of the Midas touch in musical form  :biggrin:

He looks even more stiff than the rest of them. And the clothes the women are in? Laughable, and not in any way sexy.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: DoctorAction on March 15, 2022, 03:54:45 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed that. The video was fucking hilarious.  :lol The tune was prime Eurovision pop metal. Lovely!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2022, 04:50:42 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed that. The video was fucking hilarious.  :lol The tune was prime Eurovision pop metal. Lovely!

I'll show you the door mate, you're obviously lost.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on March 15, 2022, 04:59:28 AM
Hahaha this is lame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otU3s1qLHJA

This is indeed absolutely fucking atrocious.

But the lyrics are great!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on March 15, 2022, 05:01:56 AM
This album is not that bad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnsTvehx7Wg
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: DoctorAction on March 15, 2022, 07:46:18 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed that. The video was fucking hilarious.  :lol The tune was prime Eurovision pop metal. Lovely!

I'll show you the door mate, you're obviously lost.

It brought me joy. Laughed my head off!

I hate metal videos in general. I enjoyed this one more than the recent Arch Enemy ones, for example,  but they are essentially both the lame same.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 15, 2022, 01:06:43 PM
Finally, something from Frontiers that I can get behind

(https://preview.redd.it/p37dfh6v3kn81.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=8d38bc3b841b707b33ca50fb06d690ce1fa74f89)

June 10th.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on March 15, 2022, 01:08:02 PM
I'd be careful using "get behind" and Frontiers in the same sentence.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on March 15, 2022, 01:49:05 PM
I'd be careful using "get behind" and Frontiers in the same sentence.


 :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin    (____O____)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2022, 05:24:58 PM
I'd be careful using "get behind" and Frontiers in the same sentence.

That would indeed make Del Vicchio too close for my liking.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on March 15, 2022, 06:46:45 PM
I spoke with a guy who's releasing a new album through Frontiers this week, who was very blunt in the interview and said "a lot of the Frontiers releases sound exactly the same, so I wanted mine to be a little bit more creative than average".
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on March 15, 2022, 06:48:29 PM
I spoke with a guy who's releasing a new album through Frontiers this week, who was very blunt in the interview and said "a lot of the Frontiers releases sound exactly the same, so I wanted mine to be a little bit more creative than average".

Says everyone who releases a new album with Frontiers.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on March 15, 2022, 07:51:34 PM
I spoke with a guy who's releasing a new album through Frontiers this week, who was very blunt in the interview and said "a lot of the Frontiers releases sound exactly the same, so I wanted mine to be a little bit more creative than average".

Ronnie Atkins? If so, I agree, great new album.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on March 15, 2022, 08:40:25 PM
I spoke with a guy who's releasing a new album through Frontiers this week, who was very blunt in the interview and said "a lot of the Frontiers releases sound exactly the same, so I wanted mine to be a little bit more creative than average".

Ronnie Atkins? If so, I agree, great new album.

No, I  haven't listened to his new album.  But yes, Ronnie always delivers it! I interviewed him when one of the Nordic Union albums came out, and he was really cool. The guy I spoke with today is Mark Boals, who sang with Yngwie for many years.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on March 15, 2022, 09:39:25 PM
I spoke with a guy who's releasing a new album through Frontiers this week, who was very blunt in the interview and said "a lot of the Frontiers releases sound exactly the same, so I wanted mine to be a little bit more creative than average".

Ronnie Atkins? If so, I agree, great new album.


New Shining Black kicks ass!!!!
No, I  haven't listened to his new album.  But yes, Ronnie always delivers it! I interviewed him when one of the Nordic Union albums came out, and he was really cool. The guy I spoke with today is Mark Boals, who sang with Yngwie for many years.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2022, 12:27:24 AM
I spoke with a guy who's releasing a new album through Frontiers this week, who was very blunt in the interview and said "a lot of the Frontiers releases sound exactly the same, so I wanted mine to be a little bit more creative than average".

Ronnie Atkins? If so, I agree, great new album.

No, I  haven't listened to his new album.  But yes, Ronnie always delivers it! I interviewed him when one of the Nordic Union albums came out, and he was really cool. The guy I spoke with today is Mark Boals, who sang with Yngwie for many years.

Interesting Boals said that about Frontiers.  His solo and Ring of Fire stuff are on Frontiers.  But that's kind of back when Frontiers were good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on March 16, 2022, 08:01:02 AM
I spoke with a guy who's releasing a new album through Frontiers this week, who was very blunt in the interview and said "a lot of the Frontiers releases sound exactly the same, so I wanted mine to be a little bit more creative than average".

Because they are written by one dude - who tends to be in all the videos as well 🤨

I was thinking he must be really busy, writing so many songs, but then I realised hes probably been compiling them for 30 years and now he has an outlet for them.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on March 16, 2022, 08:59:26 AM
I spoke with a guy who's releasing a new album through Frontiers this week, who was very blunt in the interview and said "a lot of the Frontiers releases sound exactly the same, so I wanted mine to be a little bit more creative than average".

Ronnie Atkins? If so, I agree, great new album.

No, I  haven't listened to his new album.  But yes, Ronnie always delivers it! I interviewed him when one of the Nordic Union albums came out, and he was really cool. The guy I spoke with today is Mark Boals, who sang with Yngwie for many years.

Interesting Boals said that about Frontiers.  His solo and Ring of Fire stuff are on Frontiers.  But that's kind of back when Frontiers were good.

He's working on a new Ring of Fire album...but without Virgil or Tony.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Anguyen92 on March 16, 2022, 09:42:41 AM
I'd be careful using "get behind" and Frontiers in the same sentence.

I'd get behind the idea of Frontiers not making cringy music videos.  Would that phrase suffice?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 16, 2022, 02:16:37 PM
I spoke with a guy who's releasing a new album through Frontiers this week, who was very blunt in the interview and said "a lot of the Frontiers releases sound exactly the same, so I wanted mine to be a little bit more creative than average".

Ronnie Atkins? If so, I agree, great new album.

No, I  haven't listened to his new album.  But yes, Ronnie always delivers it! I interviewed him when one of the Nordic Union albums came out, and he was really cool. The guy I spoke with today is Mark Boals, who sang with Yngwie for many years.

Interesting Boals said that about Frontiers.  His solo and Ring of Fire stuff are on Frontiers.  But that's kind of back when Frontiers were good.

He's working on a new Ring of Fire album...but without Virgil or Tony.

Hmmm....not interested then.  Unless it's George Bellas again.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 09, 2022, 05:10:56 AM
Resurrecting the pointless thread from a couple of pages down to say the new Black Swan album is excellent.

I also found these Aussie guys on YouTube a few days back and was pleasantly surprised- Dangerous Curves. Sound like the last Danger Danger album.

Theres life out there yet 😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 09, 2022, 05:37:08 AM
Resurrecting the pointless thread from a couple of pages down to say the new Black Swan album is excellent.

I also found these Aussie guys on YouTube a few days back and was pleasantly surprised- Dangerous Curves. Sound like the last Danger Danger album.

Theres life out there yet 😁

Ooohhh... didn't know Black Swan had a new release.  Dammit - another added to the 2022 list (which is rather long at the moment).
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 09, 2022, 05:38:25 AM
That first Black Swan album was really good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 09, 2022, 06:11:28 AM
I'm in the midst of spinning the new First Signal album.  Exactly what I'd want/expect out of this act.  Helps that I'm a big fan of HH's voice.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on April 09, 2022, 06:23:40 AM
The Black Swan came out yesterday but for some reason was not on Spotify. The first two singles of the new album were though. It sounds great and Robin McAuley sounds incredible.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Peter Mc on April 10, 2022, 02:30:34 PM
Was just coming on to see what the feeling was on Black Swan but it seems like people enjoy them.  I think both albums are decent and they at least write their own stuff.  Some tasty riffs and solos from Reb Beach and the singer is excellent.  Its nothing groundbreaking obviously but good enjoyable 80s sounding cheese rock.  Avoid their videos though!  They look pretty awful!

Axel Rudi Pell used to be my fix for this type of stuff but he hasnt released anything decent in about 10-15 years.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 10, 2022, 03:08:20 PM
Sure he has... it just sounds exactly the same as those albums from 10-15 years ago.:lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Peter Mc on April 10, 2022, 03:54:29 PM
I know youre being tongue in cheek but I sometimes think that.  Is it just me, have I got bored of his stuff?  Then I put on his early stuff and its still so good.  His inspiration has totally run dry but he put out a lot of really good (albeit similar!) albums in the 90s and early 2000s.  Last decent one was probably Mystica in 2006. 

Listened to a new song of his the other day and the lyrics (admittedly not his strength even in his pomp) were literally just a bunch of his stock phrases pasted together in random order making little or no sense. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 10, 2022, 04:16:57 PM
Pretty much agree with all that Peter.  His older stuff is fantastic but the newer stuff not much.  The last really good one for me was Tales of the Crown.  I thought that was really excellent.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 14, 2022, 08:00:18 AM
I'm totally behind on any recent releases but this seems one of the more original things to come out of Frontiers in a while............wasn't expecting something like this from a 74yo Graham Bonnet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKjLTmWqR7M
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 17, 2022, 03:01:50 PM
I'm totally behind on any recent releases but this seems one of the more original things to come out of Frontiers in a while............wasn't expecting something like this from a 74yo Graham Bonnet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKjLTmWqR7M

Amazing what can happen when Del Veccio is nowhere near it 😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2022, 03:49:26 PM
Hmmm....new Ten album is pretty damn good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 17, 2022, 04:52:52 PM
Hmmm....new Ten album is pretty damn good.

Yeah, iml8ked it. Not been back to it since that first listen.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on April 17, 2022, 05:03:59 PM
Hmmm....new Ten album is pretty damn good.

Yeah, iml8ked it. Not been back to it since that first listen.

I have it queued up for tonight. Hoping I 3nj04 it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2022, 05:24:58 PM
Hmmm....new Ten album is pretty damn good.

Yeah, iml8ked it. Not been back to it since that first listen.

I have it queued up for tonight. Hoping I 3nj04 it.

You w8n't.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on April 17, 2022, 05:50:11 PM
Hmmm....new Ten album is pretty damn good.

Yeah, iml8ked it. Not been back to it since that first listen.

I have it queued up for tonight. Hoping I 3nj04 it.

You w8n't.

Ugh. Checked it. No t24n6 you.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 17, 2022, 06:34:48 PM
Hmmm....new Ten album is pretty damn good.

I'm sure that it is.  Now, off the top of your head, explain how it's different than any of the past 3-5 albums by the band.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2022, 08:13:53 PM
Hmmm....new Ten album is pretty damn good.

I'm sure that it is.  Now, off the top of your head, explain how it's different than any of the past 3-5 albums by the band.

Ten have always had a lot of filler.  Some songs even make you seriously cringe.  They also have a lot of pussy ballad shit, like real ballad stuff.  There is less of that on here, more straightforward guitar driven songs.  I hear what you are saying, I laughed at some of the phrases and passages that are clear rip offs of older songs, but I still enjoyed it.

Hmmm....new Ten album is pretty damn good.

Yeah, iml8ked it. Not been back to it since that first listen.

I have it queued up for tonight. Hoping I 3nj04 it.

You w8n't.

Ugh. Checked it. No t24n6 you.

Trying to work out what this is?  Thinking blows ass chunks, but that doesn't quite match.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on April 17, 2022, 08:28:36 PM
You'll have to ask Lowdz. After all, he developed the language.


Seriously though...it was fucking lightweight.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 17, 2022, 08:50:46 PM
You'll have to ask Lowdz. After all, he developed the language.


Seriously though...it was fucking lightweight.

 :lol  Yeah. Ten are lightweight, hence the thread you're posting in.  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 18, 2022, 01:14:18 PM
You'll have to ask Lowdz. After all, he developed the language.


Seriously though...it was fucking lightweight.

Hey if Sigur Ros can do it  ;) You shouldnt mock the afflicted. These old eyes and modern keyboards dont mix  :biggrin:

And yes, its not a heavy album - its not meant to be. Still enjoyed it. And Chad, the only difference between this one and the last few is I enjoyed this one. Cant remember anything about it now but might just listen to it now. I have some ironing to do for the kids going back to school tomorrow. Single parent life sucks!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on April 18, 2022, 09:45:33 PM
Hmmm....new Ten album is pretty damn good.

I'm sure that it is.  Now, off the top of your head, explain how it's different than any of the past 3-5 albums by the band.

Ten have always had a lot of filler.  Some songs even make you seriously cringe.  They also have a lot of pussy ballad shit, like real ballad stuff.  There is less of that on here, more straightforward guitar driven songs.  I hear what you are saying, I laughed at some of the phrases and passages that are clear rip offs of older songs, but I still enjoyed it.

Hmmm....new Ten album is pretty damn good.

Yeah, iml8ked it. Not been back to it since that first listen.

I have it queued up for tonight. Hoping I 3nj04 it.

You w8n't.

Ugh. Checked it. No t24n6 you.

Trying to work out what this is?  Thinking blows ass chunks, but that doesn't quite match.

It's "thank" as in no thank you. I is smart.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 18, 2022, 11:21:14 PM
Hmmm....new Ten album is pretty damn good.

I'm sure that it is.  Now, off the top of your head, explain how it's different than any of the past 3-5 albums by the band.

Ten have always had a lot of filler.  Some songs even make you seriously cringe.  They also have a lot of pussy ballad shit, like real ballad stuff.  There is less of that on here, more straightforward guitar driven songs.  I hear what you are saying, I laughed at some of the phrases and passages that are clear rip offs of older songs, but I still enjoyed it.

Hmmm....new Ten album is pretty damn good.

Yeah, iml8ked it. Not been back to it since that first listen.

I have it queued up for tonight. Hoping I 3nj04 it.

You w8n't.

Ugh. Checked it. No t24n6 you.

Trying to work out what this is?  Thinking blows ass chunks, but that doesn't quite match.

It's "thank" as in no thank you. I is smart.

Of course!  T24n6 you Zook!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on April 19, 2022, 01:52:48 AM
Hmmm....new Ten album is pretty damn good.

I'm sure that it is.  Now, off the top of your head, explain how it's different than any of the past 3-5 albums by the band.

Ten have always had a lot of filler.  Some songs even make you seriously cringe.  They also have a lot of pussy ballad shit, like real ballad stuff.  There is less of that on here, more straightforward guitar driven songs.  I hear what you are saying, I laughed at some of the phrases and passages that are clear rip offs of older songs, but I still enjoyed it.

Hmmm....new Ten album is pretty damn good.

Yeah, iml8ked it. Not been back to it since that first listen.

I have it queued up for tonight. Hoping I 3nj04 it.

You w8n't.

Ugh. Checked it. No t24n6 you.

Trying to work out what this is?  Thinking blows ass chunks, but that doesn't quite match.

It's "thank" as in no thank you. I is smart.

Of course!  T24n6 you Zook!

Y0∆'π w|^!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Deathless on April 22, 2022, 07:58:46 AM
Another Frontiers supergroup (Sweet, Aldridge, Mendoza, Hoekstra and Nathan James). Dig it so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9o8XD6ADfo
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on April 23, 2022, 09:55:49 PM
Another Frontiers supergroup (Sweet, Aldridge, Mendoza, Hoekstra and Nathan James). Dig it so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9o8XD6ADfo

More like Generic, amirite?

It wasn't bad. I actually made it through the whole song, but kept imagining what it would sound like with Russell Allen on vocals. This singer wasn't bad at all.

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Anguyen92 on April 24, 2022, 01:40:07 AM
Wait a minute, a group including Michael Sweet that doesn't have him on lead vocals?  Interesting.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on April 26, 2022, 07:46:39 AM
New Journey sounds like absolute shite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxW9ALoYlds


I find a lot of modern metal unlistenable but that's intentionally done like that. But this is Journey.........not sure how the hell this demo got approved for release.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Deathless on April 26, 2022, 08:14:30 AM
New Journey sounds like absolute shite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxW9ALoYlds


I find a lot of modern metal unlistenable but that's intentionally done like that. But this is Journey.........not sure how the hell this demo got approved for release.

Is Schon producing and arranging? That might be your answer. I know he brought in Narada Walden to produce and drum but it doesn't sound like it helped. I kind of dug the first single but yeah this just feels like a cruddy b-side.

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 27, 2022, 05:42:04 AM
New Journey sounds like absolute shite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxW9ALoYlds


I find a lot of modern metal unlistenable but that's intentionally done like that. But this is Journey.........not sure how the hell this demo got approved for release.

The guitar sound is fucking weird, and Neal's lead work is horrendous.  A lot of off bends and generally sounds like the guitar is out of tune.  Cookie cutter songwriting too.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 29, 2022, 03:26:10 PM
I didnt get past a minute.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 29, 2022, 03:27:05 PM
I didnt get past a minute.

I skipped through it at least to hear the solo, then yeah, that was it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 30, 2022, 09:08:39 AM
New Journey sounds like absolute shite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxW9ALoYlds


I find a lot of modern metal unlistenable but that's intentionally done like that. But this is Journey.........not sure how the hell this demo got approved for release.

The guitar sound is fucking weird, and Neal's lead work is horrendous.  A lot of off bends and generally sounds like the guitar is out of tune.  Cookie cutter songwriting too.

Just went back to listen to the solo and youre right. Terrible. Not even worthy of being a placeholder on a demo. In fact it all sounds like a demo. Not good enough. Should have got Del Veccio in 😁😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 30, 2022, 05:12:05 PM
New Journey sounds like absolute shite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxW9ALoYlds


I find a lot of modern metal unlistenable but that's intentionally done like that. But this is Journey.........not sure how the hell this demo got approved for release.

The guitar sound is fucking weird, and Neal's lead work is horrendous.  A lot of off bends and generally sounds like the guitar is out of tune.  Cookie cutter songwriting too.

Just went back to listen to the solo and youre right. Terrible. Not even worthy of being a placeholder on a demo. In fact it all sounds like a demo. Not good enough. Should have got Del Veccio in 😁😁

This is so fucking bad that DV actually would have made this sound better than what it is.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on April 30, 2022, 10:53:24 PM
New Journey sounds like absolute shite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxW9ALoYlds


I find a lot of modern metal unlistenable but that's intentionally done like that. But this is Journey.........not sure how the hell this demo got approved for release.

The guitar sound is fucking weird, and Neal's lead work is horrendous.  A lot of off bends and generally sounds like the guitar is out of tune.  Cookie cutter songwriting too.

Just went back to listen to the solo and youre right. Terrible. Not even worthy of being a placeholder on a demo. In fact it all sounds like a demo. Not good enough. Should have got Del Veccio in 😁😁

This is so fucking bad that DV actually would have made this sound better than what it is.

Um, can the mods check and see if Kade's account has been hacked? No way he just gave Del Veccio a compliment.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on May 01, 2022, 03:16:40 AM
New Journey sounds like absolute shite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxW9ALoYlds


I find a lot of modern metal unlistenable but that's intentionally done like that. But this is Journey.........not sure how the hell this demo got approved for release.

The guitar sound is fucking weird, and Neal's lead work is horrendous.  A lot of off bends and generally sounds like the guitar is out of tune.  Cookie cutter songwriting too.

Just went back to listen to the solo and youre right. Terrible. Not even worthy of being a placeholder on a demo. In fact it all sounds like a demo. Not good enough. Should have got Del Veccio in 😁😁

This is so fucking bad that DV actually would have made this sound better than what it is.

Um, can the mods check and see if Kade's account has been hacked? No way he just gave Del Veccio a compliment.

 :lol Oh come one, this Journey song sounds so damn bad it's not that much of a compliment.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 01, 2022, 07:48:21 AM
Yeah the phrase damned by faint praise comes to mind 😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 20, 2022, 02:24:27 PM
https://youtu.be/I44CY_dHsa0

The new track from Iconic. It uses that Del Vecchio riff thats in every other song he writes.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Deathless on May 20, 2022, 02:52:27 PM
https://youtu.be/I44CY_dHsa0

The new track from Iconic. It uses that Del Vecchio riff thats in every other song he writes.

Man, Sweet can still just rip it! For a dude in his late 50's that's crazy. Enjoyed the song, it was a fun listen for the most part.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2022, 02:55:51 PM
Damn, that was generic.  The solo section ripped though, nice combo.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 20, 2022, 03:09:17 PM
I cant listen to Sweets voice these days. Its too piercing for me. Makes me cringe. The song is just bland.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on May 20, 2022, 03:15:00 PM
It does get more nasally the older he gets.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on May 21, 2022, 06:32:03 AM
I just finished up the JSS album, Complicated.  Very nice.  He's still got a silky smooth voice.

Stumbled on this yesterday, and it was quite enjoyable (especially the chorus) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHM-djDtT9A

Softcock for sure - Tim will hate it.  Kade maybe too (but ya never know)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on May 22, 2022, 04:34:52 AM
I just finished up the JSS album, Complicated.  Very nice.  He's still got a silky smooth voice.

Stumbled on this yesterday, and it was quite enjoyable (especially the chorus) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHM-djDtT9A

Softcock for sure - Tim will hate it.  Kade maybe too (but ya never know)

Damn Chad, I think that's too soft even for this thread.  :lol

Sounds like American Country to me.

As for JSS, whatever he did after Damage Control turned me off.  I don't know, the way I am at the moment, I'm just leaning towards heavier stuff, but maybe I'll sample it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on May 22, 2022, 05:01:35 AM
Speaking of JSS , apparently he turned up to a venue local to him last week to see a band and Yngwie happened to be playing later in the night.  Yngwie's people told the venue to have JSS removed from the premises or the show would be cancelled , so JSS ended up leaving.

It's not news to anyone here but what a dickhead!    You couldn't meet a nicer guy than Soto
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 22, 2022, 08:15:41 AM
Speaking of JSS , apparently he turned up to a venue local to him last week to see a band and Yngwie happened to be playing later in the night.  Yngwie's people told the venue to have JSS removed from the premises or the show would be cancelled , so JSS ended up leaving.

It's not news to anyone here but what a dickhead!    You couldn't meet a nicer guy than Soto

Yeah, Yngwie denied it, saying Soto had snuck in without paying - apparently someone he knows was playing on the bill. I know who Id be more inclined to believe, and hes not a shit singer 😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2022, 06:26:28 PM
Haha, I read that.  GTFO Jeff haha!

(https://i.imgur.com/dOrP52N.gif)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on May 26, 2022, 07:04:40 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on May 26, 2022, 07:05:37 PM
 ;D  I saved that link because it was so fucking good mate.  Been waiting all this time to use it again.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 28, 2022, 04:47:13 PM
Played the new Def Leppard and expected to hate it. I actually enjoyed it. The guitars could do with a bit more beef to them but yeah, it didnt suck. I will actually look forward to playing it again.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on May 29, 2022, 01:47:49 AM
https://youtu.be/ty8Kn5rzaA0

One of the new songs live on Jimmy Kimmel.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: DoctorAction on May 29, 2022, 02:40:59 AM

https://youtu.be/ty8Kn5rzaA0

One of the new songs live on Jimmy Kimmel.

Not a fan but that exceeded expectations. Solid. Vocals were good (and I largely hate Joe Elliott) and each guitarist got a lead in! Respectable.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 02, 2022, 07:28:01 AM
Recent performance just for you Kade

https://youtu.be/Q30N4a0_U_Q?t=270
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2022, 07:31:24 AM
Booshka!! Lol! You know, for his age, his kicks are really impressive.  Although his playing is so fucking sloppy now.  Disappointing!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 02, 2022, 07:41:50 AM
Maybe if he added a few more fake Marshalls his playing might improve?


(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FP2AAsCf.jpg&hash=cfa2650100a2de094882e5479b6c2464f743584f)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on June 02, 2022, 08:24:22 AM
You kind of give the game away when you have a monster stack of cabinets and it appears that a mere 1 is actually mic'd.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 02, 2022, 10:40:32 AM
Recent performance just for you Kade

https://youtu.be/Q30N4a0_U_Q?t=270

When the guitar is drowning out the drums you know whos in charge. I really cant stand the bloke but at least I can separate his early stuff from the cliche he has become.

He tweeted that he is thinking of doing another concerto, which I would be up for, as long as he actually puts some thought and effort into it rather than just rehashing the same three licks yet again.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on June 02, 2022, 03:48:44 PM
Maybe if he added a few more fake Marshalls his playing might improve?


(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FP2AAsCf.jpg&hash=cfa2650100a2de094882e5479b6c2464f743584f)

Hey Yngwie.....can I have one?

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 02, 2022, 06:35:52 PM
Yngwie says "take your pick"


(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1187.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz398%2Frobare99%2FF6823675-9D9C-4584-A847-E7A28D3BB1B9-992-000000A8FB0366AE.jpg&hash=7a82bea374301376c71c625a240a13007ea645dc)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on June 02, 2022, 06:39:28 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 02, 2022, 11:55:47 PM
A bit like when drummers have two bassdrums for looks but only use one with a doublepedal.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: gazinwales on June 03, 2022, 03:47:59 AM
Yngwie says "take your pick"


(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1187.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz398%2Frobare99%2FF6823675-9D9C-4584-A847-E7A28D3BB1B9-992-000000A8FB0366AE.jpg&hash=7a82bea374301376c71c625a240a13007ea645dc)

I'm pretty sure this pic is either Abbath or when he was in Immortal.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 03, 2022, 04:16:04 AM
I realise it's not Yngwie  ;) It looks like he's playing a Flying V of some kind , so yeah.   It's just a common pic used in discussions around guitarists with fake stacks.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 03, 2022, 04:19:39 AM
Its all Axe FX units these days, so theres probably no amps at all hiding behind the wall of stacks nowadays
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 03, 2022, 04:26:52 AM
It’s all Axe FX units these days, so there’s probably no amps at all hiding behind the wall of stacks nowadays

Exactly ...........amp/cab sim straight into PA.  Although Yngwie was faking it long before amp sims.............he was an innovator :lol

I have two main setups -  a little flyrig RK5 - basically what Richie Kotzen uses for his live shows (although he does run into an amp , even though it doesn't have to be).  Tiny little thing that can do everything most need.

And a Pod Go (basically a mini Helix) and that's all anyone really needs these days unless you're playing big venues. And certainly more than enough for me - no more gigs for me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2022, 07:12:36 AM
I'm such a noob when it comes to amp sims and stuff.  I'm so behind the times.  Im gonna google those things Brent, I have no clue.

I'm still plugging in at home to a Peavey Bandit.   :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 03, 2022, 07:41:02 AM
I am not far behind you Kade...........only figured some of it out in the last 12-18 months but I am nowhere near most guys these days who are all using VST computer plugins and recording with virtual instruments .  I still use things I can press with my foot and still haven't found time to properly figure out the Pod after having it 6 months :lol

Most of the time I bypass the fancy stuff and just plug into a Katana 100W
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2022, 07:46:30 AM
I am not far behind you Kade...........only figured some of it out in the last 12-18 months but I am nowhere near most guys these days who are all using VST computer plugins and recording with virtual instruments .  I still use things I can press with my foot and still haven't found time to properly figure out the Pod after having it 6 months :lol

Most of the time I bypass the fancy stuff and just plug into a Katana 100W

Thank God it's not just me.  It just all seems so fiddly and difficult and I don't think I'd have the patience.  I just want to plug in, switch on and play!

I've never tried any of the Boss amp range actually.

If I'm not using the old Bandit I'm running through a Crate GT212.  People used to hate the sound back when I got it but I've always liked the tone of them.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: gazinwales on June 03, 2022, 08:17:41 AM
I realise it's not Yngwie  ;) It looks like he's playing a Flying V of some kind , so yeah.   It's just a common pic used in discussions around guitarists with fake stacks.

I realise that you knew it wasn't him, but the outfit and guitar shape make me think it's Abbath  :metal
As for the VST sounds, I used to spend hours messing around to get the right sound and never found it, so I went back to my peavey 212 classic chorus amp.
Which I bought in 1988 and still sounds amazing, plugged straight in with nofx.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on June 03, 2022, 11:22:08 AM
I am not far behind you Kade...........only figured some of it out in the last 12-18 months but I am nowhere near most guys these days who are all using VST computer plugins and recording with virtual instruments .  I still use things I can press with my foot and still haven't found time to properly figure out the Pod after having it 6 months :lol

Most of the time I bypass the fancy stuff and just plug into a Katana 100W

Thank God it's not just me.  It just all seems so fiddly and difficult and I don't think I'd have the patience.  I just want to plug in, switch on and play!

I've never tried any of the Boss amp range actually.

If I'm not using the old Bandit I'm running through a Crate GT212.  People used to hate the sound back when I got it but I've always liked the tone of them.

Im using a Headrush gigboard into the laptop these days. I have a Peavey modelling amp gathering dust and. Headrush FRFR speaker if I ever need to crank it up, which is never these days 😁
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2022, 03:15:15 PM
I am not far behind you Kade...........only figured some of it out in the last 12-18 months but I am nowhere near most guys these days who are all using VST computer plugins and recording with virtual instruments .  I still use things I can press with my foot and still haven't found time to properly figure out the Pod after having it 6 months :lol

Most of the time I bypass the fancy stuff and just plug into a Katana 100W

Thank God it's not just me.  It just all seems so fiddly and difficult and I don't think I'd have the patience.  I just want to plug in, switch on and play!

I've never tried any of the Boss amp range actually.

If I'm not using the old Bandit I'm running through a Crate GT212.  People used to hate the sound back when I got it but I've always liked the tone of them.

Im using a Headrush gigboard into the laptop these days. I have a Peavey modelling amp gathering dust and. Headrush FRFR speaker if I ever need to crank it up, which is never these days 😁

Hmmm....I'll google this too.  I'm guessing this makes recording a breeze and sound legit?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2022, 03:15:51 PM
I realise it's not Yngwie  ;) It looks like he's playing a Flying V of some kind , so yeah.   It's just a common pic used in discussions around guitarists with fake stacks.

I realise that you knew it wasn't him, but the outfit and guitar shape make me think it's Abbath  :metal
As for the VST sounds, I used to spend hours messing around to get the right sound and never found it, so I went back to my peavey 212 classic chorus amp.
Which I bought in 1988 and still sounds amazing, plugged straight in with nofx.

Exactly!  The old Peaveys are amazing.  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: DoctorAction on June 03, 2022, 05:53:16 PM
Ooo, an opportunity to talk amps. Apologies in advance for the splurge:

I play through two amps:

1. Upstairs, my main amp - an Orange Rocker 15 Terror into a Jet City 1x15 cab with a bunch of pedals
2. Downstairs, a Roland Micro Cube GX with built-in effects

To record, I use the cab-sim direct out from the Jet City cab the Orange is plugged into, but that gets pushed through a cab simulator and re-eq'd in Cakewalk, too.

I've tried going direct and just using amp and cab simulators to record but, tbh, I've not looked at it very hard as wanted to try and get the sound of the Orange in there, as I love it.

In general, I'm not a fan of the digital amps. I've had a few, including the big Katana head but I really love the "real" feel of plugging into the Orange with an overdrive pushing it into crisp, chuggy goodness.

Having said that, the Cube is of course digital in the way that it has a few amp models in it but pretty great in a processed, slightly 80s way. I bought it to be a good "toy" amp, not a "proper" amp and it exceeded my expectations. Tiny and super portable when noodling downstairs as I power it with AA batteries and use an Xvive wireless thing so no cables anywhere. Really fun set-up.

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on June 03, 2022, 06:05:15 PM
Man, I should know what the hell you are all talking about.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2022, 12:13:57 AM
Had a listen to the new Jorn, I didn't mind it.  Its like his middle era Lonely are the Brave type style and is pretty mud temp but I thought it was nice.  Some nice solos too.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: WardySI on June 29, 2022, 08:07:00 AM
Actually listening to the new Jorn album again today!  It's a bit smooth with no real edge to due maybe to the Frontiers (read Del Vecch?) production or maybe even the material being too safe but once past that (and the IMO lazy coverart), it's quite the grower with a number of cool songs.  Not essential compared to some of his past output, but solid nonetheless.

Still one of the best voices around and while personally like this release, do wish he'd branch out a bit again and give us some more tunes the likes of Living With Wolves, Sunset Station and Stormcrow etc ;)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on June 29, 2022, 08:31:59 AM
Man, I should know what the hell you are all talking about.  :lol

I don't know any of that either; I just got a great deal on a 2005 Les Paul, and through my Marshall DSL15C I feel like I'm playing Wembley.  And I just fitted an old Squire Strat with Seymour Duncan Hot Rails pickups and I feel like I'm Dave Murray.  That's enough for me.  I wouldn't have the first clue on how to get that sound to a harddrive, but baby steps!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2022, 04:17:58 PM
Man, I should know what the hell you are all talking about.  :lol

I don't know any of that either; I just got a great deal on a 2005 Les Paul, and through my Marshall DSL15C I feel like I'm playing Wembley.  And I just fitted an old Squire Strat with Seymour Duncan Hot Rails pickups and I feel like I'm Dave Murray.  That's enough for me.  I wouldn't have the first clue on how to get that sound to a harddrive, but baby steps!  :) :) :)

That sounds beautiful!  :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on June 29, 2022, 04:18:46 PM
Actually listening to the new Jorn album again today!  It's a bit smooth with no real edge to due maybe to the Frontiers (read Del Vecch?) production or maybe even the material being too safe but once past that (and the IMO lazy coverart), it's quite the grower with a number of cool songs.  Not essential compared to some of his past output, but solid nonetheless.

Still one of the best voices around and while personally like this release, do wish he'd branch out a bit again and give us some more tunes the likes of Living With Wolves, Sunset Station and Stormcrow etc ;)

Yeah, as I said this leans towards his middle era.  Would love him to go back and listen to Worldchanger or Out to Every Nation for some inspiration.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on July 14, 2022, 07:15:47 PM
So since this is a Frontiers release, I'm going to put this here.

(https://is2-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Music116/v4/0a/a7/89/0aa78947-a9a3-6299-5aed-46de35a53d67/196626663610.jpg/600x600bf-60.jpg)

I've been really digging this album big time. Has James Durbin on vocals. Yeah yeah, American Idol, which holds me back a bit, but the dude has some pipes on this album. Also has the rhythm section of Stryper and guitarist Mike Flyntz from Riot/Riot V.

The inclusion of Mike Flyntz is really the only reason I even gave this a listen. He has carried the Riot flag, and seems like an all around great dude.

But I gotta say, I am impressed at how he carries this hard rocking guitar based album. He has some great solos and some fantastic playing.

I stay pretty engaged through most of this, but the songwriting does seem to peter out a bit towards the end. That said, I rate this Better Than Solid.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on July 14, 2022, 07:19:06 PM
Cleanbreak is a very good album. I love that the band is named after a pleasant and easy bowel moment.  :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on July 14, 2022, 07:20:18 PM
Cleanbreak is a very good album. I love that the band is named after a pleasant and easy bowel moment.  :rollin

Brought on by the deep breathing.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on July 14, 2022, 07:26:14 PM
Cleanbreak is a very good album. I love that the band is named after a pleasant and easy bowel moment.  :rollin

Well he did say it was better than solid
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on July 14, 2022, 07:30:09 PM
Cleanbreak is a very good album. I love that the band is named after a pleasant and easy bowel moment.  :rollin

Well he did say it was better than solid

Excellent!  :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on July 14, 2022, 07:35:22 PM
 :lol :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on July 14, 2022, 09:35:38 PM
Haha.

I'll check that album, the singles seemed promising.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 15, 2022, 08:32:38 AM
Has James Durbin on vocals. Yeah yeah, American Idol, which holds me back a bit, b

The fact you know this, and not ... like... another couple thousand other pop culture references disturbs me.  Who watches AI anymore these days?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: nick_z on July 15, 2022, 10:01:58 AM
So since this is a Frontiers release, I'm going to put this here.

(https://is2-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Music116/v4/0a/a7/89/0aa78947-a9a3-6299-5aed-46de35a53d67/196626663610.jpg/600x600bf-60.jpg)

I've been really digging this album big time. Has James Durbin on vocals. Yeah yeah, American Idol, which holds me back a bit, but the dude has some pipes on this album. Also has the rhythm section of Stryper and guitarist Mike Flyntz from Riot/Riot V.

The inclusion of Mike Flyntz is really the only reason I even gave this a listen. He has carried the Riot flag, and seems like an all around great dude.

But I gotta say, I am impressed at how he carries this hard rocking guitar based album. He has some great solos and some fantastic playing.

I stay pretty engaged through most of this, but the songwriting does seem to peter out a bit towards the end. That said, I rate this Better Than Solid.

I have yet to hear the whole thing, but the opening title-track is awesome! Great song.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on July 15, 2022, 06:33:37 PM
Has James Durbin on vocals. Yeah yeah, American Idol, which holds me back a bit, b

The fact you know this, and not ... like... another couple thousand other pop culture references disturbs me.  Who watches AI anymore these days?

I wasn't too sure exactly who he was but when I saw the first clip he looked familiar to me and I knew he was from some sort of reality American shit, and I assumed singing.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on July 15, 2022, 06:39:20 PM
Has James Durbin on vocals. Yeah yeah, American Idol, which holds me back a bit, b

The fact you know this, and not ... like... another couple thousand other pop culture references disturbs me.  Who watches AI anymore these days?

So I know James Durbin has been on a few projects including Quiet Riot. I think he's on the Frontiers roster. But in every press release he's described as "ex AI"or "AI alum". I was long done watching AI by that point. I think the last season we watched was the Adam Lambert year (he got robbed!).
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2022, 05:09:34 AM
A Frontiers Factory band by the looks.  Magnus Karlsson though.  Decent song actually.

https://youtu.be/r81S3qSGJv0
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2022, 05:15:36 AM
Another one;

https://youtu.be/etafg9ATKA4

This is a fucking great song I must say.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 20, 2022, 05:27:24 AM
I think that Unbreakable vid came out a few weeks back.  Seems pretty decent.

Here's another one ...

Quote
Ultima Grace is a new metal project formed by keyboardist Yuhki (Galneryus, Alhambra) featuring lead vocals by none other than Anette Olzon (The Dark Element, ex-Nightwish). Their self-titled debut album was released on March 16th in Japan, but Frontiers Music Srl is now releasing it in the rest of the world on September 9th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFvQtKSD2ZQ
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2022, 05:30:15 AM
Jeez, now that one is a POS if you ask me.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2022, 05:30:45 AM
Gotta check that Cleanbreak too.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 20, 2022, 05:31:39 AM
Jeez, now that one is a POS if you ask me.  :lol

Yeah, not the best I've heard out of Anette, but worth checking out the album when it's out.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Deathless on July 20, 2022, 05:57:17 AM
Another one;

https://youtu.be/etafg9ATKA4

This is a fucking great song I must say.

They've got some talent, I dig it. Now they just need to get away from Del Vecchio :D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2022, 06:02:50 AM
Another one;

https://youtu.be/etafg9ATKA4

This is a fucking great song I must say.

They've got some talent, I dig it. Now they just need to get away from Del Vecchio :D

I saw he produced the fucking thing!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on July 20, 2022, 06:21:31 AM
Another one;

https://youtu.be/etafg9ATKA4

This is a fucking great song I must say.

They've got some talent, I dig it. Now they just need to get away from Del Vecchio :D

I saw he produced the fucking thing!  :facepalm:

Listened to that a few weeks back and liked it.  Pretty basic stuff but catchy...........and some decent pedigree there with Magnus and the bassist (who has some very cheesy moves) is from H.E.A.T which perhaps outweighs the Del Vichioso factor.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2022, 06:30:02 AM
Another one;

https://youtu.be/etafg9ATKA4

This is a fucking great song I must say.

They've got some talent, I dig it. Now they just need to get away from Del Vecchio :D

I saw he produced the fucking thing!  :facepalm:

Listened to that a few weeks back and liked it.  Pretty basic stuff but catchy...........and some decent pedigree there with Magnus and the bassist (who has some very cheesy moves) is from H.E.A.T which perhaps outweighs the Del Vichioso factor.

Magnus easily destroys the Del Vecchio factor for me.  The bassist is kinda irritating in that video lol.  Wonderful chorus and some nice shred as always.  That whole middle section was kind of refreshing.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on July 20, 2022, 08:06:28 AM
"The Del Vecchio Factor".  Sounds like a cool band name! 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 20, 2022, 12:01:44 PM
Saw this earlier and was coming to share because I hadnt heard any mention of it. Its got Magnus written all over it thank god, rather than the Italiancheese merchant.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on July 20, 2022, 02:13:43 PM
Another one;

https://youtu.be/etafg9ATKA4

This is a fucking great song I must say.

They've got some talent, I dig it. Now they just need to get away from Del Vecchio :D

I saw he produced the fucking thing!  :facepalm:

The Del Vecchio thing is played out. They need to sign more bands that write their own tunes.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on July 20, 2022, 04:10:41 PM
Saw this earlier and was coming to share because I hadnt heard any mention of it. Its got Magnus written all over it thank god, rather than the Italiancheese merchant.

I don't click on any Frontiers vids that come up in my Youtube feed, so I missed it.  But last night when the second video was released there was a post in my feed about the band and saw Magnus' name so, there you go.

Looking forward to this album.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: nick_z on July 21, 2022, 07:58:44 PM
So since this is a Frontiers release, I'm going to put this here.

(https://is2-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Music116/v4/0a/a7/89/0aa78947-a9a3-6299-5aed-46de35a53d67/196626663610.jpg/600x600bf-60.jpg)

I've been really digging this album big time. Has James Durbin on vocals. Yeah yeah, American Idol, which holds me back a bit, but the dude has some pipes on this album. Also has the rhythm section of Stryper and guitarist Mike Flyntz from Riot/Riot V.

The inclusion of Mike Flyntz is really the only reason I even gave this a listen. He has carried the Riot flag, and seems like an all around great dude.

But I gotta say, I am impressed at how he carries this hard rocking guitar based album. He has some great solos and some fantastic playing.

I stay pretty engaged through most of this, but the songwriting does seem to peter out a bit towards the end. That said, I rate this Better Than Solid.

I have yet to hear the whole thing, but the opening title-track is awesome! Great song.

To come back to this - I guess I'm surprised at how much I'm enjoying it...? To quote myself, the opening track is a banger, but there's a bunch more tasty tunes after that. I have to agree the guitar playing is the highlight, but all performances are full of energy. The rhythm section really goes for it. And I mean, as melodic as this is, it's also surprisingly "metal" (Still Fighting!). It's true that the songs tend to get a little more generic in the second half (although "Cleanbreak" is fun and different), but they are never less than enjoyable.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on July 30, 2022, 09:16:51 AM
New House of Lords track. I like it, but Ive found their last few albums sound weird, and this is the same. The vocals dont bed in with the music, just sit there on top of it somehow.

https://youtu.be/9dOlvZT1evQ
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: WardySI on August 28, 2022, 02:03:03 AM
New House of Lords track. I like it, but Ive found their last few albums sound weird, and this is the same. The vocals dont bed in with the music, just sit there on top of it somehow.

https://youtu.be/9dOlvZT1evQ

While I hear and appreciate this complaint I gotta say as excruciating candyfloss as the chorus is, this is probably one of the finest later-day HOL songs I've heard yet and don't believe any Del Vecchio to be found (nor on the latest Nordic Union which is pretty great too.  See Frontiers it doesn't HAVE to be that way no?...)

But yes, hoping this could well be an improvement over the last couple HOL albums regardless of the clique album title (I mean c'mon seriously how many Saints And Sinners do we have out there already?)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on August 28, 2022, 04:11:25 AM
So since this is a Frontiers release, I'm going to put this here.

(https://is2-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Music116/v4/0a/a7/89/0aa78947-a9a3-6299-5aed-46de35a53d67/196626663610.jpg/600x600bf-60.jpg)

I've been really digging this album big time. Has James Durbin on vocals. Yeah yeah, American Idol, which holds me back a bit, but the dude has some pipes on this album. Also has the rhythm section of Stryper and guitarist Mike Flyntz from Riot/Riot V.

The inclusion of Mike Flyntz is really the only reason I even gave this a listen. He has carried the Riot flag, and seems like an all around great dude.

But I gotta say, I am impressed at how he carries this hard rocking guitar based album. He has some great solos and some fantastic playing.

I stay pretty engaged through most of this, but the songwriting does seem to peter out a bit towards the end. That said, I rate this Better Than Solid.

I have yet to hear the whole thing, but the opening title-track is awesome! Great song.

To come back to this - I guess I'm surprised at how much I'm enjoying it...? To quote myself, the opening track is a banger, but there's a bunch more tasty tunes after that. I have to agree the guitar playing is the highlight, but all performances are full of energy. The rhythm section really goes for it. And I mean, as melodic as this is, it's also surprisingly "metal" (Still Fighting!). It's true that the songs tend to get a little more generic in the second half (although "Cleanbreak" is fun and different), but they are never less than enjoyable.

I'm having my first listen now.

EDIT:  This is really good.  American Idol or not, this guy is a great singer and fits the style perfectly.  Ripping guitar work as expected.  Still Fighting sound like Dimeo era Riot, great stuff.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on September 21, 2022, 10:30:35 AM
Resurrecting the thread that bore her name once upon a time with the important news that Issa will release a new album in 2023 to save this dying genre and thread! 😀😀😀
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on September 21, 2022, 10:39:14 AM
Resurrecting the thread that bore her name once upon a time with the important news that Issa will release a new album in 2023 to save this dying genre and thread! 😀😀😀

wolfking as soon as he sees this:

(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/63330035.jpg)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on September 21, 2022, 03:29:03 PM
Resurrecting the thread that bore her name once upon a time with the important news that Issa will release a new album in 2023 to save this dying genre and thread! 😀😀😀

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/LpkBAUDg53FI8xLmg1/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952d40b6cd70d9aaee75b098759972172fa4f960a0d&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2022, 04:17:19 AM
Not Frontiers but I had a listen to the new Dynazty.......jeez......these guys have really run out of ideas hey.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 09, 2022, 05:12:54 AM
Not Frontiers but I had a listen to the new Dynazty.......jeez......these guys have really run out of ideas hey.  :lol

Yeah ... if you've heard 1 Dynazty album, you've heard them all.  I thought this one was more enjoyable than their last two efforts though - can't really say why, it's just my gut reaction.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on October 09, 2022, 12:05:17 PM
I'm pretty much done with Frontiers. They release the same album with a different title at this point. Stryper is my only exception personally.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on October 09, 2022, 03:46:51 PM
Not Frontiers but I had a listen to the new Dynazty.......jeez......these guys have really run out of ideas hey.  :lol

Yeah ... if you've heard 1 Dynazty album, you've heard them all.  I thought this one was more enjoyable than their last two efforts though - can't really say why, it's just my gut reaction.

The last one (Dark Delight) is actually my fav from them, easily.  I thought they nailed everything on that one.  There is so much here that's just repeated from that especially and older albums.  Listen to I think it was Natural Born Killer and then Heartless Madness and try not to laugh your ass off.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 10, 2022, 04:08:33 AM
Not Frontiers but I had a listen to the new Dynazty.......jeez......these guys have really run out of ideas hey.  :lol

Yeah ... if you've heard 1 Dynazty album, you've heard them all.  I thought this one was more enjoyable than their last two efforts though - can't really say why, it's just my gut reaction.

The last one (Dark Delight) is actually my fav from them, easily.  I thought they nailed everything on that one.  There is so much here that's just repeated from that especially and older albums.  Listen to I think it was Natural Born Killer and then Heartless Madness and try not to laugh your ass off.

I thought it was ok but really Sultans of Sin is the only album I ever go back to.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on October 10, 2022, 04:16:35 AM
Not Frontiers but I had a listen to the new Dynazty.......jeez......these guys have really run out of ideas hey.  :lol

Yeah ... if you've heard 1 Dynazty album, you've heard them all.  I thought this one was more enjoyable than their last two efforts though - can't really say why, it's just my gut reaction.

The last one (Dark Delight) is actually my fav from them, easily.  I thought they nailed everything on that one.  There is so much here that's just repeated from that especially and older albums.  Listen to I think it was Natural Born Killer and then Heartless Madness and try not to laugh your ass off.

I thought it was ok but really Sultans of Sin is the only album I ever go back to.

From memory, I didn't really dig the old stuff.  I'd have to revisit them.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on October 10, 2022, 06:15:23 AM
Not Frontiers but I had a listen to the new Dynazty.......jeez......these guys have really run out of ideas hey.  :lol

Yeah ... if you've heard 1 Dynazty album, you've heard them all.  I thought this one was more enjoyable than their last two efforts though - can't really say why, it's just my gut reaction.

The last one (Dark Delight) is actually my fav from them, easily.  I thought they nailed everything on that one.  There is so much here that's just repeated from that especially and older albums.  Listen to I think it was Natural Born Killer and then Heartless Madness and try not to laugh your ass off.

I thought it was ok but really Sultans of Sin is the only album I ever go back to.

From memory, I didn't really dig the old stuff.  I'd have to revisit them.

I've bought 2 Dynazty albums - SoS (at Paul's suggestion), and Renatus.  I saved a couple on Spotify, but haven't been terribly stuffed about them otherwise.  The Night Flight Orchestra falls into this category as well ... I own Amber Galactic and Aeromatic, but the rest does very little for me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on October 10, 2022, 03:06:06 PM
Renatus was the first one that got me interested.  I have that on CD.  Besides that and The Dark Delight, meh.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: WardySI on October 12, 2022, 03:23:48 AM
Just for some more positivity will give another shout out for the new House Of Lords album Saints And Sinners.

Sure it's not perfect nor a patch on their heyday releases, nor anything new, but while still a bit too sugar and floss at times finally the lyrics are better more varied, and many of the songs heavier! Tbh feel this is some of their best work since reforming and whatever it was they did different this time, they should keep doing ;)

The title-track is very nice;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ7fv5i5ga4

Mistress Of The Dark;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmRMpTwziNY

Take It All sounds like it coulda been lifted from the Demons Down sessions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THByNtrjLew
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on October 12, 2022, 09:47:27 AM
Just for some more positivity will give another shout out for the new House Of Lords album Saints And Sinners.

Sure it's not perfect nor a patch on their heyday releases, nor anything new, but while still a bit too sugar and floss at times finally the lyrics are better more varied, and many of the songs heavier! Tbh feel this is some of their best work since reforming and whatever it was they did different this time, they should keep doing ;)

The title-track is very nice;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ7fv5i5ga4

Mistress Of The Dark;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmRMpTwziNY

Take It All sounds like it coulda been lifted from the Demons Down sessions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THByNtrjLew

I've written about Jimi Bell here a lot; he's from Hartford and plays in a local Deep Purple - well, really Ritchie Blackmore - cover band called "Beyond Purple" that does Purple, Whitesnake and Rainbow.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on October 12, 2022, 03:10:36 PM
Good guitar player. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: WardySI on October 13, 2022, 09:18:28 PM
Did not know that thanks Stadler and yes agree he is great.

I think I remember before the previous album there were some rumblings regards Jimi not being so happy with the HOL direction or something (and rightfully so IMO) and glad James has taken better direction here.  So long as they stick to it think this should set them up nicely for a couple more releases tbh \m/
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on October 15, 2022, 01:01:21 AM
I've always felt that Jimi Bell is a decent player but often gets a bit too carried away trying to sound exactly like Zakk Wylde.  Might just be me.......
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2022, 03:41:11 AM
I've always felt that Jimi Bell is a decent player but often gets a bit too carried away trying to sound exactly like Zakk Wylde.  Might just be me.......

i've never really thought that listening to him, but I can see what you mean.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on October 17, 2022, 11:15:37 AM
I've always felt that Jimi Bell is a decent player but often gets a bit too carried away trying to sound exactly like Zakk Wylde.  Might just be me.......

Well, there are similarities, but I think it's far more that they have similar influences.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on October 19, 2022, 11:29:46 AM
The last few HoL albums all sound like they are recorded and mixed, then someone drops the vocals on top. They just dont sound like they fit in the mix.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 03, 2022, 09:56:30 AM
oooohhhh... this one's for Kade for sure.

https://youtu.be/7VgMmIvinzE
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Anguyen92 on November 03, 2022, 10:28:23 AM
^^ Warning, there's some flashing lights and images here and there.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 03, 2022, 03:27:44 PM
oooohhhh... this one's for Kade for sure.

https://youtu.be/7VgMmIvinzE

Thank fuck I don't have sound here on my work PC.  Lights of Japan?  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 03, 2022, 06:24:25 PM
oooohhhh... this one's for Kade for sure.

https://youtu.be/7VgMmIvinzE

Thank fuck I don't have sound here on my work PC.  Lights of Japan?  :lol

I'm reading all of the glowing comments under the video and trying to figure out which one is yours.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 04, 2022, 04:03:51 AM
As it got going I was thinking it would be an okay song with someone else singing, not nasally screeching.  I then saw James Martin on keyboards and realised it could have been a Vega b-side which explains it.

Guitar solo sucks.  What awful timing and phrasing.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 04, 2022, 06:03:30 AM
As it got going I was thinking it would be an okay song with someone else singing, not nasally screeching.  I then saw James Martin on keyboards and realised it could have been a Vega b-side which explains it.

Guitar solo sucks.  What awful timing and phrasing.

The whole thing was fuckin awful, not just Issa.  I tried to listen to it, had to tap out after about a minute.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Deathless on November 28, 2022, 01:13:48 PM
New Revolution Saints (Jeff Pilson and Joel Hoekstra are in now) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEy5-jZXjZc&t=24s

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on November 28, 2022, 03:40:53 PM
New Revolution Saints (Jeff Pilson and Joel Hoekstra are in now) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEy5-jZXjZc&t=24s

For what it is , I think that's actually pretty good.  They don't even credit songwriters any more .................presumably it's just "the machine"
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Deathless on November 29, 2022, 08:39:28 AM
New Revolution Saints (Jeff Pilson and Joel Hoekstra are in now) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEy5-jZXjZc&t=24s

For what it is , I think that's actually pretty good.  They don't even credit songwriters any more .................presumably it's just "the machine"

I enjoyed it too. On Spotify the writing credits are:

Alessandro Del Vecchio
Francesco Savino
Rossella Moscatello

So yes?  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2022, 03:48:49 AM
New Khymera song is pretty damn good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 04, 2022, 03:58:28 AM
New Revolution Saints (Jeff Pilson and Joel Hoekstra are in now) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEy5-jZXjZc&t=24s

For what it is , I think that's actually pretty good.  They don't even credit songwriters any more .................presumably it's just "the machine"

Yeah, this is quite excellent.  Deen has an amazing voice.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 04, 2022, 04:55:06 AM
I really enjoyed the 2015 Rev Saints album.  Can't say I remember the 2020 one.  That tune was pretty decent.  Khymera was ok... definitely fits the thread title!   :biggrin:

Most know how much of a fanboy I am for Johnny Gioelli, and he's got an album out under a new banner - Enemy Eyes.  He described it as "combining old school rock with a European metal feel".  Pretty accurate, imo.  Dude sounds just as good as he did on Hardline's s/t release from 30 years ago.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oegZn6Zt4fM.  Where the hell does Frontiers get the money to invest in these kinds of high quality videos??  Dunno... maybe they're just shot on a Samsung Galaxy.  :lol

Another release I'm really digging from Frontiers is Mantric Momentum / Trial By Fire - it's got Terje Haroy from Pyramaze on the mic.  Nice blend of traditional metal, with a power-y slant.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82OFSYFp4A
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jjrock88 on December 04, 2022, 11:35:04 AM
Not really into the song but yeah Johnny definitely sounds good.  If that Hardline debut album had come out 2-3 years earlier, would have been huge.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 19, 2022, 12:41:45 PM
disregarding the cheesiness of the vid, I had a go at this album today.  Very solid.  Like, as good as the stuff Frontiers used to pump out 8-10 years ago.  Landfall / Two Strangers ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQfO0y-yU6Y

Tim hates it.
Wolf hates it to - but he hates all music lately.   :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2022, 02:15:27 PM
Hey, I haven't even clicked the link yet!.............but yeah, I'll probably hate it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 19, 2022, 02:16:20 PM
With the Revolution Saints, I thought the very first album was really really good.  Some great melodic rock songs on that one.  They fell off a cliff for me after that though.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2022, 03:49:29 AM
disregarding the cheesiness of the vid, I had a go at this album today.  Very solid.  Like, as good as the stuff Frontiers used to pump out 8-10 years ago.  Landfall / Two Strangers ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQfO0y-yU6Y

Tim hates it.
Wolf hates it to - but he hates all music lately.   :lol

I checked it out.....

I didn't know COVID affected your hearing along with your taste and smell.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on December 20, 2022, 04:41:09 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 20, 2022, 06:21:36 AM
disregarding the cheesiness of the vid, I had a go at this album today.  Very solid.  Like, as good as the stuff Frontiers used to pump out 8-10 years ago.  Landfall / Two Strangers ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQfO0y-yU6Y

Tim hates it.
Wolf hates it to - but he hates all music lately.   :lol

I checked it out.....

I didn't know COVID affected your hearing along with your taste and smell.

You know, you might be on to something.  Or that lightning fried more than you are ready to admit.   :P :-*
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: nick_z on December 20, 2022, 08:09:09 AM
Posting it here since it's Frontiers:

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51Y8StLI3zL._SY580_.jpg)

After Lapse - Face the Storm

From Spain, in many ways this is as textbook "prog metal" as it gets, but I found it enjoyable. Strong DT influence in some of the guitar riffs/solos and keyboards textures, as one would expect, but it's a pretty concise package, with no real long songs (by prog standards). Nice vocal melodies, especially in the choruses (some of them a tad more melodic power-adjacent, e.g. Where No One Cares). Vocals are good, maybe kinda thin at the top of their range. The verses in a couple of songs try to be a little tougher, which doesn't work super-well, but overall things are in the right places.

Again, nothing new, but it was a pleasant listen.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 20, 2022, 03:55:56 PM
disregarding the cheesiness of the vid, I had a go at this album today.  Very solid.  Like, as good as the stuff Frontiers used to pump out 8-10 years ago.  Landfall / Two Strangers ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQfO0y-yU6Y

Tim hates it.
Wolf hates it to - but he hates all music lately.   :lol

I checked it out.....

I didn't know COVID affected your hearing along with your taste and smell.

You know, you might be on to something.  Or that lightning fried more than you are ready to admit.   :P :-*

Oh yeah, I was certainly fried before, but yes, even more so now.  :lol

I realised life is too short to spend my time listening to generic, rehashed and average music.  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 21, 2022, 04:51:36 PM
disregarding the cheesiness of the vid, I had a go at this album today.  Very solid.  Like, as good as the stuff Frontiers used to pump out 8-10 years ago.  Landfall / Two Strangers ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQfO0y-yU6Y

Tim hates it.
Wolf hates it to - but he hates all music lately.   :lol

Just dropped in to say Fuck me that was bad. :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on December 21, 2022, 04:54:42 PM
disregarding the cheesiness of the vid, I had a go at this album today.  Very solid.  Like, as good as the stuff Frontiers used to pump out 8-10 years ago.  Landfall / Two Strangers ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQfO0y-yU6Y

Tim hates it.
Wolf hates it to - but he hates all music lately.   :lol

Just dropped in to say Fuck me that was bad. :lol :lol :lol

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/NEvPzZ8bd1V4Y/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e4704ul8e6iaogmg2c1kvxeqjfv4xrsupktt24yi6n7&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on December 21, 2022, 05:52:28 PM
disregarding the cheesiness of the vid, I had a go at this album today.  Very solid.  Like, as good as the stuff Frontiers used to pump out 8-10 years ago.  Landfall / Two Strangers ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQfO0y-yU6Y

Tim hates it.
Wolf hates it to - but he hates all music lately.   :lol

Just dropped in to say Fuck me that was bad. :lol :lol :lol

I had to do something to bring you out of hiding!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on December 22, 2022, 12:50:13 AM
 :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 12, 2023, 04:17:11 AM
https://youtu.be/8MYrQPpwx2k

Pretty much Vanden Plas, but pretty damn good.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 12, 2023, 04:30:48 AM
https://youtu.be/8MYrQPpwx2k

Pretty much Vanden Plas, but pretty damn good.

Nice.  I saw this announced a few weeks back, and have been patiently awaiting it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on January 12, 2023, 10:33:56 PM
https://youtu.be/8MYrQPpwx2k

Pretty much Vanden Plas, but pretty damn good.

The first song they released if you haven't heard it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqY55vucbAg
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: MinistroRaven on January 27, 2023, 09:00:06 AM
Ronnie Romero Raised on Heavy Radio album review

https://lotsofmuzik.com/ronnie-romero-was-raised-on-heavy-radio-album-review-by-bernard-romero/

 :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2023, 10:16:10 AM
Hey Kade!  New Issa today too!  :lol :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on January 27, 2023, 11:53:04 AM
Hey Kade!  New Issa today too!  :lol :lol

Her first, maybe second album were decent now its cookie cutter bullshit. Frontiers are tired.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on January 27, 2023, 12:43:37 PM
Hey Kade!  New Issa today too!  :lol :lol

Her first, maybe second album were decent now its cookie cutter bullshit. Frontiers Del Vechio is tired.

Fixed it for you  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on January 27, 2023, 12:45:35 PM
Hey Kade!  New Issa today too!  :lol :lol

Her first, maybe second album were decent now its cookie cutter bullshit. Frontiers Del Vechio is tired.

Fixed it for you  ;D

That is exactly the truth. I know they hired more writers but they should just sign more bands that actually write their own tunes.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on January 27, 2023, 01:01:05 PM
Hey Kade!  New Issa today too!  :lol :lol

Her first, maybe second album were decent now its cookie cutter bullshit. Frontiers Del Vechio is tired.

Fixed it for you  ;D

That is exactly the truth. I know they hired more writers but they should just sign more bands that actually write their own tunes.

They've proved they can do it. They thankfully leave Phantom Elite alone.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on January 27, 2023, 02:57:56 PM
Hey Kade!  New Issa today too!  :lol :lol

Her first, maybe second album were decent now its cookie cutter bullshit. Frontiers Del Vechio is tired.

Fixed it for you  ;D

That is exactly the truth. I know they hired more writers but they should just sign more bands that actually write their own tunes.

They've proved they can do it. They thankfully leave Phantom Elite alone.

Oh I know they do, Phantom Elite are one of their best bands for sure. I think the "Serafino projects" are just played out.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2023, 04:20:08 PM
Id say 3 out of every 10 releases is decent, and then 50% of those are worthy of repeat listens.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2023, 03:37:23 AM
Hey Kade!  New Issa today too!  :lol :lol

Her first, maybe second album were decent now its cookie cutter bullshit. Frontiers are tired.

They've been a mess for over 10 years now mate I'd say. 

I'd love to have some time to actually go back through their catalog and see where it actually started going wrong.  Del Vecchio is more than likely the culprit though.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 28, 2023, 04:13:36 AM
While we are here, how fucking shit is this?

https://youtu.be/9yCIB5O1kec

Solo is completely fucked too.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 28, 2023, 05:17:31 AM
You know me, I like Romero's voice, but I couldn't be stuffed at all with this album.  Absolutely nothing about it appeals to me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: DoctorAction on January 28, 2023, 03:15:28 PM
While we are here, how fucking shit is this?

https://youtu.be/9yCIB5O1kec

Solo is completely fucked too.

Prime Z-list action right there. 😂

I felt they could have pushed the hot woman on a motorbike angle a bit harder, if I'm honest.


Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 03, 2023, 04:26:16 AM
https://youtu.be/FIQnu29VqnE

Magnus, what are you doing?  This song is fucking shit and this singer is fucking terrible!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 03, 2023, 05:18:07 AM
Yeah... vocally that was trash.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Deathless on February 03, 2023, 07:13:50 AM
Something I don't understand about Frontiers is when people (blabbermouth) say it's a "paycheck" for a lot of these artists. I get it for Del Vecchio and guys like Magnus who are basically employed by them or kept on retainer. But for a lot of artists they don't sell any physical albums and only rack up what, a few thousand streams? Where is the worth lol?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2023, 04:55:28 AM
Another Magnus one.

https://youtu.be/9frckePrw4A

This is a bit more like it.  A bit over the top and poppy but this dude has a good voice.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 24, 2023, 04:58:33 AM
Something I don't understand about Frontiers is when people (blabbermouth) say it's a "paycheck" for a lot of these artists. I get it for Del Vecchio and guys like Magnus who are basically employed by them or kept on retainer. But for a lot of artists they don't sell any physical albums and only rack up what, a few thousand streams? Where is the worth lol?

I don't know why I'd think this but I wouldn't be surprised if the record companies get the bands to sign a contract and the band just gets cut a pay check and any streaming royalties goes to the label?

Bigger bands like Primal Fear probably a bit different but I'm sure the contracts differ from artist to artist. 

I could be talking out my ass too though.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 24, 2023, 05:08:42 AM
Another Magnus one.

https://youtu.be/9frckePrw4A

This is a bit more like it.  A bit over the top and poppy but this dude has a good voice.

I grabbed that dude's solo release from 2021 ... was one of my favorite albums of the year.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on February 24, 2023, 09:19:57 AM
Another Magnus one.

https://youtu.be/9frckePrw4A

This is a bit more like it.  A bit over the top and poppy but this dude has a good voice.

I grabbed that dude's solo release from 2021 ... was one of my favorite albums of the year.

Interesting. I found this when looking into it:

It is now James turn to shine completely with his debut solo record, which was written and produced for him by Frontiers production guru Alessandro Del Vecchio.

I'll try to check it out.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on February 24, 2023, 09:34:31 AM
Every so often, ADV puts out something ... solid.  Only 90% of the stuff he/Frontiers does is utter shyte.  They definitely churn out the quantity - it just takes some effort and patience to find the quality ones.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on February 24, 2023, 01:55:25 PM
Something I don't understand about Frontiers is when people (blabbermouth) say it's a "paycheck" for a lot of these artists. I get it for Del Vecchio and guys like Magnus who are basically employed by them or kept on retainer. But for a lot of artists they don't sell any physical albums and only rack up what, a few thousand streams? Where is the worth lol?

I don't know why I'd think this but I wouldn't be surprised if the record companies get the bands to sign a contract and the band just gets cut a pay check and any streaming royalties goes to the label?

Bigger bands like Primal Fear probably a bit different but I'm sure the contracts differ from artist to artist. 

I could be talking out my ass too though.

Maybe its a Mafia money laundering scheme 😀😀
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on February 24, 2023, 02:15:31 PM
Something I don't understand about Frontiers is when people (blabbermouth) say it's a "paycheck" for a lot of these artists. I get it for Del Vecchio and guys like Magnus who are basically employed by them or kept on retainer. But for a lot of artists they don't sell any physical albums and only rack up what, a few thousand streams? Where is the worth lol?

I don't know why I'd think this but I wouldn't be surprised if the record companies get the bands to sign a contract and the band just gets cut a pay check and any streaming royalties goes to the label?

Bigger bands like Primal Fear probably a bit different but I'm sure the contracts differ from artist to artist. 

I could be talking out my ass too though.

Maybe its a Mafia money laundering scheme 😀😀

I have heard things from VERY reliable sources about that being a strong possibility which makes me think you know something as well. I am in no way confirming this or accusing them, its just eye opening to see this.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on February 24, 2023, 07:26:59 PM
Something I don't understand about Frontiers is when people (blabbermouth) say it's a "paycheck" for a lot of these artists. I get it for Del Vecchio and guys like Magnus who are basically employed by them or kept on retainer. But for a lot of artists they don't sell any physical albums and only rack up what, a few thousand streams? Where is the worth lol?

I don't know why I'd think this but I wouldn't be surprised if the record companies get the bands to sign a contract and the band just gets cut a pay check and any streaming royalties goes to the label?

Bigger bands like Primal Fear probably a bit different but I'm sure the contracts differ from artist to artist. 

I could be talking out my ass too though.

Maybe it’s a Mafia money laundering scheme

I have heard things from VERY reliable sources about that being a strong possibility which makes me think you know something as well. I am in no way confirming this or accusing them, its just eye opening to see this.




From an old post of mine  :lol


Dino (Jelusic) has some balls - those Frontiers guys just keep on coming if you get on their bad side.  I have wondered from time to time if their business model is just so amazing in a pretty dead genre or whether perhaps profits are secondary and it might be operating as a "laundry" for some other "legit" family businesses .   ;D


Funnily enough on the anniversary of this post Dino just released a new song dedicated to Frontiers called Reign Of Vultures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6qIVDza6lA
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on February 27, 2023, 07:25:27 PM
Hey Kade!  New Issa today too!  :lol :lol

Her first, maybe second album were decent now its cookie cutter bullshit. Frontiers Del Vechio is tired.

Fixed it for you  ;D

That is exactly the truth. I know they hired more writers but they should just sign more bands that actually write their own tunes.

They've proved they can do it. They thankfully leave Phantom Elite alone.

Got a chance to hear this today!
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Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Deathless on March 13, 2023, 08:25:50 AM
New Sweet & Lynch out today - Link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdOFMvWAXXE&ab_channel=FrontiersMusicsrl)
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: bl5150 on June 14, 2023, 06:12:02 AM
This thread has been absent for a while .

You like Vega Kade..................new one :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfmJrQsFtu4


Pretty standard stuff and I don't follow them much , but to me it seems perhaps they're a bit more straight forward/upbeat since the Martin brothers left?

Anyway............props to the lead guitarist for playing the ESP LTD Deluxe Koa guitar (one of my faves) - they rock  :metal    He looks like has been studying Neal Schon in terms of his moves.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on June 14, 2023, 06:47:53 PM
This thread has been absent for a while .

You like Vega Kade..................new one :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfmJrQsFtu4


Pretty standard stuff and I don't follow them much , but to me it seems perhaps they're a bit more straight forward/upbeat since the Martin brothers left?

Anyway............props to the lead guitarist for playing the ESP LTD Deluxe Koa guitar (one of my faves) - they rock  :metal    He looks like has been studying Neal Schon in terms of his moves.

I watched this last night.  I fucking love this band.  They are such a guilty pleasure of mine and I'm stunned they are back with a new one already.  Saying that, the last one didn't quite grab me but I'll have to revisit.  Pretty sure this will be the first one without the Martin boys though.....I could be wrong.

It's a great song but the chorus is a blatant rip off of Hardline's Fever Dreams lol.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on September 10, 2023, 07:44:16 PM
So, as many know I'm probably Magnus Karlsson's biggest whipping boy on here which I'm not ashamed of.  Although, he's done so many albums one could forgive him for a slight drop in quality.  We have seen that with the likes of Allen/Lande, that Heart Healer crap and even his Freefall project.  I will say last years Ginevra album was pretty enjoyable and the last Ferryman album was really excellent so he's still got it.  Nothing comes close to the Battle but nothing will.

Saying all that, I'm absolutely loving the latest Freefall album.  I wasn't sold on the first single or two but on a whole, this album is fucking brilliant.  There's old school Last Tribe feels going on a lot and overall the songwriting is just interesting, fresh and while following his usual formula, it's still really catchy and getting lots of repeats from me with enough variety to stay interested.  In a time where I really don't buy CD's anymore, might have to hunt this one down.  It also gets better as the album goes on too.  The closer is one of the best songs he's done in a long long time.  I'd even say this may be the best thing since the first Freefall album or the third Allen/Lande album.  He's put a bit of effort into his solos too on this one which were getting pretty samey and you could tell lately he was just pulling out one or two take solos on a whim.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Zook on September 10, 2023, 10:14:58 PM
Heart Heeler is pretty good. The only thing I don't like about the album is the overuse of a certain melody (vocal phrasing), which being a concept album could be on purpose, but just sounds repetitive and uncreative.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on September 11, 2023, 01:45:56 PM
Heart Heeler is pretty good. The only thing I don't like about the album is the overuse of a certain melody (vocal phrasing), which being a concept album could be on purpose, but just sounds repetitive and uncreative.

It's a me thing, with the female vocals and all.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on September 11, 2023, 02:04:14 PM
Heart Heeler is pretty good. The only thing I don't like about the album is the overuse of a certain melody (vocal phrasing), which being a concept album could be on purpose, but just sounds repetitive and uncreative.

It's a me thing, with the female vocals and all.

It's definitely a you thing
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2023, 03:55:17 AM
So I clicked on something randomly that come up in my YouTube feed from Frontiers after not checking anything of the style for a while.

Holy fuck I almost vomited with these lyrics. Holy shit.  :lol

https://youtu.be/p5hVG52c0as?si=cHbWAKSVoBy8cvRm
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on November 20, 2023, 05:12:12 AM
Wrong is absolutely correct. I couldve wrote better lyrics when I was 11!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 20, 2023, 08:05:33 AM
Looks like a note you pass to your girlfriend in high school. I cringed just reading the lyrics. Didn't even bother to play the track.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Evermind on November 20, 2023, 08:25:01 AM
Wow. :rollin I'm genuinely surprised they didn't try to rhyme "fire" with "desire" (and "together" with "forever") so I've got a few more stanzas for them:

Can you feel the fire
Burning in my heart
I'm bursting with desire
No one can tear us apart

We should be together
Till the end of our days
United forever
Unless we somehow part our ways

The flame of love is burning
Scorching me from the inside
And the world keeps turning
But I can't find you in the night

I couldn't make myself listen to the actual song so the meter might be off. :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 20, 2023, 08:36:14 AM
Your Frontiers contract offer is in the mail. Play nice with Del Vecchio or you might disappear on us. :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ozzy554 on November 20, 2023, 12:14:54 PM
1. I'm surprised the name of this thread hasn't been changed.

2. That sounds like a fake song. Like something you'd see in a movie with someone making the most cliche 80s love ballad they could think of.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Anguyen92 on November 20, 2023, 12:23:13 PM
^^ I mean if nothing has changed and the title still holds true, why change it?

Anywho, based on the last few posts, I took a look at the lyric video and not listen to the music and I'm reading these lyrics and I go, "Yeah, buddy.  She's not going to want you.  Too bad.  Life happens."
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on November 20, 2023, 12:46:38 PM
Ya know; I listen to Kiss and Van Halen, and Scorpions, so clearly lyrics don't ALWAYS carry a ton of weight with me.  But for AOR, lyrics matter and I listened to that, and all I could picture is a SNL skit.  I don't mind dumb lyrics, but when they patently make no sense - "Tonight there's gonna be a jailbreak... somewhere in this town!" - it's so hard for me to get past.   That song is a walking restraining order, FFS. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2023, 12:57:18 PM
 :lol Outstanding commentary lads, love it.  Thank fuck it wasn't just me thinking these lyrics were beyond a train wreck.

1. I'm surprised the name of this thread hasn't been changed

What do you think it needs to change to?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on November 20, 2023, 01:25:45 PM
Wow. :rollin I'm genuinely surprised they didn't try to rhyme "fire" with "desire" (and "together" with "forever") so I've got a few more stanzas for them:


I've got a few more..

This song fucking blows
I guess that's how it goes
Maybe next time
I'll come up with better prose

And it even sucks as well
Honey you can go to hell
If I get to bang another chick
Time will only tell

I got everything you need
let's get down and do the deed
And then we'll clog up
some poor bastard's youtube feed
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on November 20, 2023, 01:34:52 PM
New Forum Project: write and record the ultimate Frontiers record.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on November 20, 2023, 01:38:36 PM
Wow. :rollin I'm genuinely surprised they didn't try to rhyme "fire" with "desire" (and "together" with "forever") so I've got a few more stanzas for them:


I've got a few more..

This song fucking blows
I guess that's how it goes
Maybe next time
I'll come up with better prose

And it even sucks as well
Honey you can go to hell
If I get to bang another chick
Time will only tell

I got everything you need
let's get down and do the deed
And then we'll clog up
some poor bastard's youtube feed


That second half is fucking poetry mate.  Just beautiful.  I shouldn't have been drinking when reading that though.  :rollin
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: goo-goo on January 26, 2024, 07:24:04 AM
Not sre how I feel about this but Delvechio just joined Vanden Plas.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2024, 04:14:58 PM
Not sre how I feel about this but Delvechio just joined Vanden Plas.

The fuck!?  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2024, 04:19:06 PM
So, Gunter has left.  Could they not be bothered finding a proper keyboard player to replace him.  He does a bit of songwriting too so not very optimistic on VP moving forward with this joker, his crappy keys and generic songwriting influencing them.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on January 26, 2024, 04:29:09 PM
Vanden Plas sucks enough on their own.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on January 26, 2024, 04:31:23 PM
Vanden Plas sucks enough on their own.

 :lol I knew this post was coming.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on February 21, 2024, 04:09:13 AM
New VP is actually really nice.

https://youtu.be/RNiXdcgzCYE?si=919pcMnrys_wn2y3
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: goo-goo on March 13, 2024, 04:09:48 PM
Alessandro del Vecchio parts ways with Frontiers

From his FB

AS OF TODAY, I PART WAYS WITH FRONTIERS MUSIC SRL.
I know this might sound like a shock to some, but its been going on for a few months now and Im ready and glad to move on.
I'm grateful for all weve done together in these 13 years full of music and success. The new conditions and changes created a situation that I didnt want to be part of anymore. Still, Edge Of Forever and Vanden Plas Official are signed to Frontiers, so no worries about that. I just won't be an in-house producer/songwriter and A&R for them anymore.
With Frontiers I was able to produce, work, and chart with some incredible artists like Mr.Big, Journey, Blue Oyster Cult, Night Ranger (my first #1 on Billboard), JORN, and Hardline and build incredible projects like Revolution Saints, the new successful era of Sunstorm, Iconic, Cleanbreak, Resurrection Kings, The End machine, Black Swan Band and many others. As an A&R for the label, I brought amazing artists like Marc Storace, GOTUS Music (absolutely one of the best albums I've ever worked on), Demon, Lalu, Honeymoon Suite, The Big Deal, and Nitrate, among many others, and I was also able to pitch one of the biggest metal bands of all time, Manowar.
My musical future is now all for Edge Of Forever, Hardline, Jorn, and Vanden Plas, and I cannot wait to tour with ProgJect in America in June and sing with some of the best musicians on the planet!
Ill keep producing bands, writing songs, and mixing records for artists, labels, and bands, cause thats what I love to do.
2024 will also bring my first solo album, which is absolutely different from what Ive always done. Its instrumental, its prog, theres no guitars but the songs are filled with Hammond, Mellotron, and Minimoog.
The drummer is probably the most iconic and recognizable drummer of all time, and I might be talking to a couple of guys for some guitar solos too:-) Lets see!
As you can see, there are lots of exciting things ahead and I cannot wait to see what the future will bring.
Ill see you all up the road for my next shows or in the studio to produce, write, or mix some new fantastic music!
Wishing the best of luck to Frontiers for their future!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2024, 06:52:25 PM
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Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 13, 2024, 07:03:49 PM
Except he's still in 4 bands I really like!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on March 13, 2024, 07:08:18 PM
Except he's still in 4 bands I really like!


Sounds like a YOU problem.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2024, 07:18:20 PM
Except he's still in 4 bands I really like!

But it's a start mate!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on March 13, 2024, 09:20:31 PM
Except he's still in 4 bands I really like!


Sounds like a YOU problem.

New Vanden Plas.. But he had nothing to do with the writing on it so his haters need not worry.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2024, 09:22:39 PM
Except he's still in 4 bands I really like!


Sounds like a YOU problem.

New Vanden Plas.. But he had nothing to do with the writing on it so his haters need not worry.  :lol

Pretty sure Tim's not too concerned with the specifics of VP.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on March 13, 2024, 09:26:35 PM
Except he's still in 4 bands I really like!


Sounds like a YOU problem.

New Vanden Plas.. But he had nothing to do with the writing on it so his haters need not worry.  :lol

Pretty sure Tim's not too concerned with the specifics of VP.  :lol

A lot of instrumentals on the new VP. Its a departure from their other stuff but still VP. Tim will cream his 80's shorts!  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2024, 09:31:01 PM
Unless it's solely an instrumental album, I don't think he will.  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 13, 2024, 10:43:04 PM
Congrats to wolfking on being named new head of A&R for Frontiers!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 13, 2024, 10:47:41 PM
Congrats to wolfking on being named new head of A&R for Frontiers!

Forcing Del Vicchio out was my first piece of business.  My second.....

.....excuse me I need to find a certain someone's contract, it may accidentally find itself being needed in the bathroom.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on March 14, 2024, 08:35:07 AM
Congrats to wolfking on being named new head of A&R for Frontiers!

Forcing Del Vicchio out was my first piece of business.  My second.....

.....excuse me I need to find a certain someone's contract, it may accidentally find itself being needed in the bathroom.

Romero?  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Glasser on March 14, 2024, 08:45:30 AM
Unless it's solely an instrumental album, I don't think he will.  :lol

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Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on March 14, 2024, 09:23:55 AM
Congrats to wolfking on being named new head of A&R for Frontiers!

Hes earned it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 14, 2024, 12:16:22 PM
Congrats to wolfking on being named new head of A&R for Frontiers!

Forcing Del Vicchio out was my first piece of business.  My second.....

.....excuse me I need to find a certain someone's contract, it may accidentally find itself being needed in the bathroom.

Romero?  :lol

Pretty sure it is his favorite artist, Issa.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 14, 2024, 01:54:22 PM
Congrats to wolfking on being named new head of A&R for Frontiers!

Forcing Del Vicchio out was my first piece of business.  My second.....

.....excuse me I need to find a certain someone's contract, it may accidentally find itself being needed in the bathroom.

Romero?  :lol

Pretty sure it is his favorite artist, Issa.

Of course it is.

Romeo can stay but he's limited to one album a year, and only with The Ferrymen.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 14, 2024, 02:16:20 PM
Romeo can stay but he's limited to one album a year, and only with The Ferrymen.

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Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 14, 2024, 02:23:38 PM
If he doesn't like it he can take his ass to another label that will whore him out for 87 albums a year.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 14, 2024, 02:49:15 PM
If he doesn't like it he can take his ass to another label that will whore him out for 87 albums a year.

I just want some Lords of Black.  I honestly don't like many of the other things he's on nowadays other than LoB and Ferrymen.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on March 14, 2024, 03:06:35 PM
If he doesn't like it he can take his ass to another label that will whore him out for 87 albums a year.

I just want some Lords of Black.  I honestly don't like many of the other things he's on nowadays other than LoB and Ferrymen.

Alright, since that was his first real band before he started prostituting himself out, we can keep them.  Only those two bands though.  No other Ronnie.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on March 14, 2024, 03:16:27 PM
I'm spoiled in my old age.   NO ONE on the planet sounds exactly like Paul McCartney.  NO ONE on the planet sounds exactly like Ace Frehley.  NO ONE on the planet sounds exactly like James LaBrie.  There are 14 guys that sound exactly like Ronnie Romero.  He's good and all, and I like what he did for Ritchie, but I'm just looking for something more in my vocalists.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 14, 2024, 03:33:35 PM
I'm spoiled in my old age.   NO ONE on the planet sounds exactly like Paul McCartney.  NO ONE on the planet sounds exactly like Ace Frehley.  NO ONE on the planet sounds exactly like James LaBrie.  There are 14 guys that sound exactly like Ronnie Romero.  He's good and all, and I like what he did for Ritchie, but I'm just looking for something more in my vocalists.

Name them.   :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on March 14, 2024, 03:49:16 PM
I'm spoiled in my old age.   NO ONE on the planet sounds exactly like Paul McCartney.  NO ONE on the planet sounds exactly like Ace Frehley.  NO ONE on the planet sounds exactly like James LaBrie.  There are 14 guys that sound exactly like Ronnie Romero.  He's good and all, and I like what he did for Ritchie, but I'm just looking for something more in my vocalists.

Name them.   :lol

Uh... Robin McAuley?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on March 14, 2024, 04:17:23 PM
I'm spoiled in my old age.   NO ONE on the planet sounds exactly like Paul McCartney.  NO ONE on the planet sounds exactly like Ace Frehley.  NO ONE on the planet sounds exactly like James LaBrie.  There are 14 guys that sound exactly like Ronnie Romero.  He's good and all, and I like what he did for Ritchie, but I'm just looking for something more in my vocalists.

Name them.   :lol

Uh... Robin McAuley?

So he's the equivalent of 13 people.   :rollin :rollin

Just razzin ya dude.  I'd say there's a lot of vocalists that have that mid-range, quasi-gravelly tone and style.  Dino Jelusic, Niklas Sonne, James Robledo, Jan Manenti, Rick Altzi, Mark Boals, Mark Basile, Renan Zonta, Jakob Samuel, Girish Pradhan, Raphael Mendes... I almost got to 14.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Stadler on March 15, 2024, 06:40:20 AM
I'm spoiled in my old age.   NO ONE on the planet sounds exactly like Paul McCartney.  NO ONE on the planet sounds exactly like Ace Frehley.  NO ONE on the planet sounds exactly like James LaBrie.  There are 14 guys that sound exactly like Ronnie Romero.  He's good and all, and I like what he did for Ritchie, but I'm just looking for something more in my vocalists.

Name them.   :lol

Uh... Robin McAuley?

So he's the equivalent of 13 people.   :rollin :rollin

Just razzin ya dude.  I'd say there's a lot of vocalists that have that mid-range, quasi-gravelly tone and style.  Dino Jelusic, Niklas Sonne, James Robledo, Jan Manenti, Rick Altzi, Mark Boals, Mark Basile, Renan Zonta, Jakob Samuel, Girish Pradhan, Raphael Mendes... I almost got to 14.

Honestly, I would put Jeff Scott Soto in there too.  All those midrange guys.  I don't know; I guess I'm being harsh, but they just don't stand out to me.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2024, 08:37:56 AM
Such a perfect way to save this thread from Page 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f8tQR9TIbM

 :metal :metal
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2024, 01:41:08 PM
Such a perfect way to save this thread from Page 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f8tQR9TIbM

 :metal :metal

I know what this is and you're not tricking me you fucker.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2024, 01:42:30 PM
I know what this is and you're not tricking me you fucker.

Awe, c'mon.  I double-dawg dare you.  ::) :angel:
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2024, 01:45:35 PM
I saw it in my YouTube feed a day ago as an upcoming video.  I may still check it for a laugh, but not at 5.30 in the fucking morning.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2024, 02:22:04 PM
I saw it in my YouTube feed a day ago as an upcoming video.  I may still check it for a laugh, but not at 5.30 in the fucking morning.

I made it about 90 seconds before pulling the ripcord.  It was just terrible - visually and sonically.  It's worth a quick watch just to comprehend how bad it was.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: ProfessorPeart on April 02, 2024, 03:28:57 PM
I made it about 90 seconds before pulling the ripcord.  It was just terrible - visually and sonically.  It's worth a quick watch just to comprehend how bad it was.

I dare someone to find a way to send it to him in his roulette.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2024, 05:31:01 PM
I dare someone to find a way to send it to him in his roulette.

I already put her on my banned list.

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Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2024, 05:31:51 PM
Plus, Chad was lucky he didn't get automatically disqualified from the roulette sending Del Prickiio.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: jingle.boy on April 02, 2024, 06:55:48 PM
Plus, Chad was lucky he didn't get automatically disqualified from the roulette sending Del Prickiio.

And yet you almost awarded him an 8!

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Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 02, 2024, 09:26:46 PM
Touche.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2024, 05:35:21 AM
Such a perfect way to save this thread from Page 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f8tQR9TIbM

 :metal :metal

Oh wow, that's Tom and James Martin.  They left Vega to work with Issa?!  Pretty ordinary for their standards too.  Lead guitar is absolutely fucking shithouse too. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on April 03, 2024, 06:34:15 AM
Huh, I was expecting way worse.  Corny video, and I've heard better, but it sounds perfectly fine to me. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2024, 07:04:20 PM
Just looked up Tom and James Martin and I see they have actually written 2 of her albums in full plus tracks from another 2.  Mind blown.  They obviously water shit down for her or kept sent the Vega throwaways her way.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on April 03, 2024, 07:23:11 PM
A quick search reveals that James is married to her.  Guess you have to excommunicate that band from your collection too. 
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2024, 07:51:33 PM
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Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 03, 2024, 07:52:15 PM
No wonder she got a fucking record deal then.  :facepalm:

Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 07, 2024, 03:36:14 PM
Oh wow, that's Tom and James Martin.  They left Vega to work with Issa?!  Pretty ordinary for their standards too.  Lead guitar is absolutely fucking shithouse too.

Even my partner, who doesnt mind some cheesy rock, couldnt make it through that 😀
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on April 07, 2024, 03:46:12 PM
Even my partner, who doesnt mind some cheesy rock, couldnt make it through that 😀

You got a new partner, stud?
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 07, 2024, 03:48:44 PM
You got a new partner, stud?

Nearly two years now mate. Shes a keeper.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: TAC on April 07, 2024, 03:50:22 PM
Nearly two years now mate. Shes a keeper.

You're a keeper!  :)

She should let you out to play on DTF more though.  ;D
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: Lowdz on April 07, 2024, 04:29:15 PM
You're a keeper!  :)

She should let you out to play on DTF more though.  ;D

Ill tell her  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 07, 2024, 05:18:27 PM
You're a keeper!  :)

She should let you out to play on DTF more though.  ;D

Great idea!
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: WardySI on April 09, 2024, 04:02:17 AM
Probably highly inappropriate of me to say here but am really digging The End Machine's Quantum Phase.  Really not convinced they needed Mason replacing Girish tbh but aside from a few unnecessary stratosphere highs, am surprised how in check Girish keeps it here often sounding like Mason would have anyway.

But get past that and the majority of these songs are some of Lynch's best in a long while IMO.  I mean I really enjoyed Lynch Mob's Babylon last year but reckon this trumps it.

K moving along  :lol
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: wolfking on April 09, 2024, 04:10:04 AM
Probably highly inappropriate of me to say here but am really digging The End Machine's Quantum Phase.  Really not convinced they needed Mason replacing Girish tbh but aside from a few unnecessary stratosphere highs, am surprised how in check Girish keeps it here often sounding like Mason would have anyway.

But get past that and the majority of these songs are some of Lynch's best in a long while IMO.  I mean I really enjoyed Lynch Mob's Babylon last year but reckon this trumps it.

K moving along  :lol

I checked the first video when it came out and it was really good.  That's as far as it went but I'll try and get around to it.
Title: Re: The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread
Post by: WardySI on April 10, 2024, 12:50:59 AM
I checked the first video when it came out and it was really good.  That's as far as it went but I'll try and get around to it.

 :coolio

I would find it hard to believe how anyone remotely interested in this particular genre would find Shattered Glass Heart and its outro into Time not pleasing to the ear  :metal