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Title: "In the Name of God"
Post by: KevShmev on June 30, 2009, 09:52:46 AM
For some reason, this song had never really hit me; I always sort of liked it, but never thought it was that cohesive or great.  Well, that has all changed now.  It "hit" me in a big way when I listened to it over the weekend, and I have to say that I now consider it the best song on ToT, and one helluva good song. 

Only took me 5 1/2 years to realize this. :lol :lol :lol
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Post by: Progmetty on June 30, 2009, 09:53:59 AM
Congrates! I hope I get there oneday heh
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 30, 2009, 09:56:15 AM
I'm the opposite.  I loved it when the album came out, and now I think it's just kind of OK.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 30, 2009, 09:56:57 AM
What a weird revelation to have so late. This song has always been the stand-out song of ToT for me.
Even the long instrumental section always manages to keep my interest and works, unlike some other songs on the album. It has a good chorus, good riffs, lots of good sections, and the outro is just amazing.

I don't know what changed for you, but glad it clicked for you. Definitely one of the saving tracks of the album.
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Post by: reneranucci on June 30, 2009, 09:57:22 AM
I now consider it the best song on ToT, and one helluva good song. 

Yes  :laugh:
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Post by: Plasmastrike on June 30, 2009, 09:59:25 AM
Awesome, Kev! In The Name Of God is definitely my favorite track off Train Of Thought with Stream Of Consciousness closely behind. The instrumental section heavily keeps my interest. Also, how about that awesome use of the harmonic in the main riff after the instrumental section? Awesome.

INTOG during L@B outro solo .. need I say more?!
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Post by: Dream Team on June 30, 2009, 10:02:16 AM
One of my top 10 or 15.
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Post by: TAC on June 30, 2009, 10:34:54 AM
For me, it was the Live At Budokan version that struck me. For some reason, the Train Of Thought studio release is very sterile, but on Live At Budokan, Endless Sacrifice, This Dying Soul, SOC, ITNOG, and even As I Am (which I don't care for) are much more alive and incredible.

Something about that live version of ITNOG is amazing.
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Post by: tbw2445 on June 30, 2009, 10:37:48 AM
In The Name of God is an amazing song!!! glad you like it now!!!  ;D
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Post by: InstrumentalFiasco on June 30, 2009, 10:39:48 AM
The very end of this song is like the best DT moment ever.
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Post by: pianoman on June 30, 2009, 10:44:15 AM
I'm sure most of you knew this, but at the end of the song, after the last repeat of the chorus, the battle hymn of the republic can be heard in the background
Title: Re: "In the Name of God"
Post by: Jamesman42 on June 30, 2009, 10:46:07 AM
Awesome, man. It is a very well-deserving song.
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Post by: Zydar on June 30, 2009, 10:48:02 AM
Amazing song. I didn't really care that much for it - until I watched Live @ Budokan. Now it's easily the best track on ToT.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 30, 2009, 10:48:16 AM
I'm sure most of you knew this, but at the end of the song, after the last repeat of the chorus, the battle hymn of the republic can be heard in the background

Yep, I knew that, and it sounds great.
How many people here sing along with the Battle Hymn every time they listen to the song? :lol *raises hand*
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Post by: Jamesman42 on June 30, 2009, 10:49:14 AM
*raises hands in the air like he just don't care*
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Post by: squishyboots on June 30, 2009, 11:15:12 AM
I'm sure most of you knew this, but at the end of the song, after the last repeat of the chorus, the battle hymn of the republic can be heard in the background

Yep, I knew that, and it sounds great.
How many people here sing along with the Battle Hymn every time they listen to the song? :lol *raises hand*
Yes!

And that is why I love the L@B outro, he starts off on that melody, and then just goes all out.

ITNoG is a great song, I'd put it as second best on ToT.  I sometimes have to be in the mood for it, but it's still a damn good song.
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Post by: austin on June 30, 2009, 11:27:32 AM
*raises hand*


I picked it up on my 5th or 6th listen, I was like "Woah! That's so cool! Kyle, get over here!" (kyle's my bro.)
I was so psyched I listened to it like 10 more times  :laugh: haha
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Post by: BlobVanDam on June 30, 2009, 11:29:17 AM
*raises hand*


I picked it up on my 5th or 6th listen, I was like "Woah! That's so cool! Kyle, get over here!" (kyle's my bro.)
I was so psyched I listened to it like 10 more times  :laugh: haha

I always noticed the voices, but I admit I had no idea what they were actually singing until it was pointed out, and then I listened closely and realized "oh yeah!"
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Post by: Chino on June 30, 2009, 11:32:59 AM
The LAB version of the song made me appreciate it a hell of a lot more.
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Post by: j on June 30, 2009, 12:20:59 PM
It's definitely one of the most "epic" sounding things they've done.  I like the song a lot, but the instrumental section is one of my least favorites.

-J
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Post by: tri.ad on June 30, 2009, 12:22:59 PM
Great song. The instrumental section gets tiring, but has a great JM groove beneath it. Also, the outro is awesome (I love the studio outro better than the Budokan version of it). But overall, nothing much to complain about it.
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Post by: InTheNameOfGod on June 30, 2009, 03:47:15 PM
Meh. ToT gets too much hate.

I think the whole album is solid. Endless Sacrifice often gets overlooked but I think it's a tune. The worst song is This Dying Soul IMO, and that's still a good song.

It's a breath of fresh air to see them kick-back and create a modern metal album/solo-fest.

ITNOG and As I Am are in my Top 15, definitely.
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Post by: PixelDream on June 30, 2009, 03:50:50 PM
I'm kind of in the same ballpark here. I always enjoyed the song, but to be honest, the thing I really liked about it were the heavy riffing and the solo's. Now, after all those years, I finally hear how freakin' epic this song is. It's now high in my top 10 Dream Theater songs. It contains IMO one of JLB's best vocal performances on a studio track ever.
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Post by: DannyVaz on June 30, 2009, 05:41:41 PM
The solo's, the riffage, JLB owning it.

Great song, instrumental section is heavenly, for me atleast.
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Post by: apu99992 on June 30, 2009, 05:43:04 PM
Anyone see the metallica similarities in TOT? Not just in the riffs and singing but in the structure as well.

For 3 out of the 7 songs we have the same pattern going on

long intro -verse-chourus-verse-chorus-long instrumental-chorus/outro chorus - outro

I used to think TDS was different, but it's basically jsiut two songs stuck together by a few riffs

SOC is like TCOK or Orion, a long repetitive instrumental track that changes halfway before going back to the original riffs

INTOG is probably the biggest, some people say only, prog moment on the album because it moves flawlessly from section to section. The songwriting is brilliant, and the song never feels overlong; except at the outro and then you want it to feel overlong.

Therefore, INTOG is the most unique song on TOT.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 30, 2009, 07:17:14 PM
ITNOG is a Top 10, maybe Top 5 DT song for me.  Absolutely awesome.  The instrumental section is one of my fave's from the entire DT catalog.  I was quite happy that JLB pulled the vocals back together on L@B after the debacle of Pull Me Under.  Great riffs, amazing unison, cool base lines ... the whole damn thing rules.  *must go listen*

The riff at 3:02 and 3:17 (L@B - "Straight is the path, leading to your salvation")... chills.
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Post by: zxc on June 30, 2009, 10:33:34 PM
Behind only SoC on ToT for me.
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Post by: The Letter M on July 01, 2009, 12:45:29 AM
Probably my favorite track on TOT. I love the screaming vocals in the background from JLB somewhere near the middle of the song. I also love the vocals at the end singing the Battle Hymn.

There's very little to find at fault with this piece and JR's ending is pretty much perfect IMO. As MP said on his Drums of Thought commentary, ITNOG is and probably always will be, a set-ender or concert-ender as an encore... it just sounds definitively show-ending!

Such an epic song! You have to wonder if they tossed in all their best writing in the first song they wrote (this one) during those sessions?

-Marc.
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Post by: yeshaberto on July 01, 2009, 12:52:22 AM
I get so excited everytime it comes up on my playlist, such an awesome song in so many ways
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Post by: Jamesman42 on December 31, 2010, 12:08:25 PM
Man, I just took a walk and had my Zune on shuffle for DT only. This song came on and it just blew my mind all over again. Really fantastic song to close the album, and lots of cool little things going on to add up to an awesome epic song.
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Post by: Tunnel Vision on December 31, 2010, 12:41:36 PM
I always liked the song, but it never hit me until I heard the LaB release....that version is just so awesome.
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Post by: MykeHavoc on December 31, 2010, 01:15:16 PM
I'm the opposite.  I loved it when the album came out, and now I think it's just kind of OK.



That's actually sadly where I'm at now. The chorus is fucking amazing, but the rest of the song doesn't do it for me.
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Post by: skydivingninja on December 31, 2010, 01:52:37 PM
JLB screaming "Justifying violence..." in the background before the solo section is one of the most epic things the band have ever done. 
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Post by: toro on December 31, 2010, 03:05:55 PM
JLB screaming "Justifying violence..." in the background before the solo section is one of the most epic things the band have ever done. 
That and the outro... OH IM SO GONNA BLAST THAT MOFO SONG TODAY :metal :metal
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Post by: Adami on December 31, 2010, 03:07:16 PM
The chorus isn't great. And the whole "religious beliefs, fanatic obsesssssssions" part is pretty bad.


But the rest of the song is freakin great.
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Post by: antigoon on December 31, 2010, 03:45:46 PM
Lyrics are pretty lame but the song is alright.
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Post by: skydivingninja on December 31, 2010, 04:01:40 PM
Don't think the lyrics are lame.  Honestly, they're just okay.  They don't add or subtract anything from the music, which I love.
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Post by: zxlkho on December 31, 2010, 04:19:59 PM
Overrated song on an overrated album.
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Post by: emindead on December 31, 2010, 04:34:30 PM
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Post by: antigoon on December 31, 2010, 04:34:50 PM
:lol
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Post by: m0hawk on December 31, 2010, 05:31:27 PM
They know no other life but this!
From the cradle they are claimed

That section is one of the most dramatic things I've had the pleasure of listening to.
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Post by: lucky7 on December 31, 2010, 09:22:05 PM
I love the track..when DT first toured OZ back in 2007 they played this live but in a medley with some other tracks I felt extremely pissed at the time. But having the Live in Budokan DVD made up for it.

Train of thought was my first DT album and I will always love it for that reason, but nowadays I do play it less and less, but it is one album you can play that a non DT fan will like. :smiley:

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Post by: ZBomber on December 31, 2010, 09:44:13 PM
At one time, I really thought DT's lyrics were awesome and "deep". I don't get that from the lyrics at all anymore.  :lol

That said, I don't think the lyrics for this song are that bad... interesting lyrical concept and the execution worked. And the song itself is badass.  :metal One of the best songs DT has put out since 6DOIT.
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Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on December 31, 2010, 11:03:52 PM
I love ItNoG. Definitely Petrucci's most entertaining shred moment.

As for the lyrics, not so great. I'll stick to Blind Faith for cool religion lyrics, thank you.
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Post by: Adami on December 31, 2010, 11:38:00 PM
I love ItNoG. Definitely Petrucci's most entertaining shred moment.

As for the lyrics, not so great. I'll stick to Blind Faith for cool religion lyrics, thank you.

Pretty sure Blind Faith isn't religious.
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Post by: Gadough on January 01, 2011, 12:13:34 AM
I love the song but I don't consider it the best on the album. That honor goes to This Dying Soul.
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Post by: skydivingninja on January 01, 2011, 12:17:45 AM
My God, you and I HAVE gotten too predictable.   :facepalm:
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Post by: antigoon on January 01, 2011, 12:19:12 AM
That honor goes to This Dying Soul.

I...what...huh?
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Post by: ? on January 01, 2011, 12:21:35 AM
The best song on TOT and one of my favorite DT songs!  :metal That unison is quite crazy! I don't see anything bad in the lyrics.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 01, 2011, 04:53:52 AM
I love the song but I don't consider it the best on the album. That honor goes to This Dying Soul.
I would venture that with this opinion you are a member of a very small club.
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Post by: Gadough on January 01, 2011, 05:04:22 AM
The few, the proud, and the unashamed.
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Post by: Edan the Man on January 01, 2011, 06:51:43 AM
Hey, This Dying Soul is an amazing song IMO.

Oh and yeah, In the Name of God is pretty good too. The outro has always been my favorite ending to a DT album.
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Post by: Mladen on January 01, 2011, 06:58:43 AM
It's a good song, but I used to like it better. There's still that heavy middle part with the unison and stuff, the one featured on Chaos in motion - and that section's just incredible. The rest is just plain solid, but nothing spectacular.

This dying soul and Stream of consciousness are my favorites on ToT, but it's a fine album all around.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 01, 2011, 07:39:15 AM
Hey, This Dying Soul is an amazing song IMO.
Oh, I like it too.  I just don't think it's the best song on the album.
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Post by: DP_Gumby on January 01, 2011, 07:42:15 AM
ItNoG is easily one of my top 5 songs from DT. The reason is because it was the song that grabbed my attention, out of all the song from ToT. And as a result of that I've been an DT-addict for 7 years now. :biggrin: :hefdaddy

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Post by: DeanTheater on January 01, 2011, 08:02:35 AM
I totally wnet down to the Mancave and put ITNOG on and turned it up to 11 after reading through this thread.  And totally pissed off the wife at 0945 am.  I love ITNOG.  The OUtro....................squirt

We all need a lil ITNOG in our life.  That with the shuffle going to the Glass Prison right after   :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: RuRoRul on January 01, 2011, 08:14:18 AM
The best Dream Theater song.

It and This Dying Soul are fairly close for my favourite on Train Of Thought, but In The Name Of God takes it.
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Post by: ddtonfire on January 01, 2011, 11:05:54 AM
I think it's Dream Theater's most epic song. Skull-crushing riffs, soaring choruses, one of their greatest unisons, blazing solos, and, live, you can't help but sing along and wave your arms at the end. And it's got the friggin' Battle Hymn of the Republic in it!
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Post by: juice on January 01, 2011, 04:47:39 PM
Best song on the album.  Top 10 stuff.  :tup
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Post by: Adami on January 01, 2011, 04:49:41 PM
By far one of the top 7 songs on ToT.
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Post by: bloop on January 01, 2011, 05:07:09 PM
By far one of the top 7 songs on ToT.
I wouldn't go that far.
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Post by: jsem on January 01, 2011, 05:08:03 PM
I love ItNoG. Definitely Petrucci's most entertaining shred moment.

As for the lyrics, not so great. I'll stick to Blind Faith for cool religion lyrics, thank you.

Pretty sure Blind Faith isn't religious.

For religious DT songs I'd listen to The Spirit Carries On.
Such a beautiful song.
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Post by: MykeHavoc on January 01, 2011, 07:16:36 PM
I love the song but I don't consider it the best on the album. That honor goes to This Dying Soul.


Hands down, this.
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Post by: Daso on January 01, 2011, 07:22:34 PM
One of my favorites in the album along with Stream of Consciousness and Endless Sacrifice. I love the instrumental section, the unison is just brutally good.
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Post by: Setebos on January 01, 2011, 09:32:14 PM
One of the better songs on ToT. Which doesn't really say much, because for me, ToT is a strong contender for least favourite DT album.

All in all it's allright, I guess. A bit overrated.
The outro however is indeed awesome.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 02, 2011, 09:32:41 AM
I love ItNoG. Definitely Petrucci's most entertaining shred moment.

As for the lyrics, not so great. I'll stick to Blind Faith for cool religion lyrics, thank you.

Pretty sure Blind Faith isn't religious.

For religious DT songs I'd listen to The Spirit Carries On.
Such a beautiful song.
Pretty sure that isn't religious, either.
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Post by: LNF230.com on November 30, 2012, 09:24:58 AM
I have always loved this song....especially toward the end after the JP flurry of notes....there is a part that reminds me very specifically of Aldo Nova's Subjects......probably just me....
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Post by: Yoshi Yogurt on November 30, 2012, 11:22:27 PM
Weakest song on the album IMO
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Post by: wasteland on December 01, 2012, 02:15:18 AM
Weak song redeemed by a great live solo, and undermined by all the other flurry of notes in between.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on December 01, 2012, 06:20:43 AM
Weakest song on the album IMO

Is it opposite day?
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Post by: wasteland on December 01, 2012, 07:34:51 AM
Weakest song on the album IMO

Is it opposite day?

No, Ms. CrystalBicycleFall.

:neverusethis:
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on December 01, 2012, 07:37:04 AM
Weakest song on the album IMO

Is it opposite day?
No







:splodetard:
Title: Re: "In the Name of God"
Post by: MinistroRaven on December 08, 2017, 03:56:17 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed before but I have never had the chance to ask this question, in this song I just recently heard that from minute 7:11 on there’s someone’s screaming the lines James is singing. Who did the screams?
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Post by: Adami on December 08, 2017, 03:57:21 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed before but I have never had the chance to ask this question, in this song I just recently heard that from minute 7:11 on there’s someone’s screaming the lines James is singing. Who did the screams?

James.
Title: Re: "In the Name of God"
Post by: MinistroRaven on December 08, 2017, 04:51:30 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed before but I have never had the chance to ask this question, in this song I just recently heard that from minute 7:11 on there’s someone’s screaming the lines James is singing. Who did the screams?

James.

Pretty impressive, didn’t know he could do sing that high
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Post by: ReaperKK on December 09, 2017, 02:09:56 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed before but I have never had the chance to ask this question, in this song I just recently heard that from minute 7:11 on there’s someone’s screaming the lines James is singing. Who did the screams?

James.

There was one guy in High School who swore up and down that those background scream was Dani Filth.
Title: Re: "In the Name of God"
Post by: jakepriest on December 10, 2017, 08:39:46 AM
The chorus isn't great. And the whole "religious beliefs, fanatic obsesssssssions" part is pretty bad.

But the rest of the song is freakin great.

Wow. Those are the best parts of the song man.
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Post by: Ninjabait on December 10, 2017, 04:06:39 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed before but I have never had the chance to ask this question, in this song I just recently heard that from minute 7:11 on there’s someone’s screaming the lines James is singing. Who did the screams?

James.

Pretty impressive, didn’t know he could do sing that high

If anyone's curious, he goes as high as F5 once, and hits a few E5s. It's not the highest note he's hit (it gets beat out by the famous F#5 in LtL and Day 20 - Confrontation from The Human Equation, the G5s in Octavarium, BMUBMD, and Illumination Theory, and a freaking A5 in the choruses of BMUBMD), but that's still a super impressive note.