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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: Kotowboy on December 15, 2010, 11:52:42 AM
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Couldnt find one in search.
One of my favourite bands ever. Great songs let down by that neanderthal frontman.
Definitely Maybe & Morning Glory blew me away.
Be Here Now was slightly disappointing and Giants ...well...
Heathen Chemistry was a step in the right direction again and Don't Believe The Truth was almost as good as the glory days.
Dig Out Your soul was a great album to end on IMO. A departure in a lot of ways but still had cracking songs on it.
Liam's new band is just pitiful . The first single sounds like "great Balls of fire" by Jerry Lee Lewis.
Of course, being Liam, he says the album is better than Definitely Maybe :biggrin: :biggrin:
So yeah. Terrible singer, Great songwriter. Some Great albums. Discuss. ;D
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Hasn't noel written most of the good oasis songs ? (could be wrong)
Anyway the first 2 albums were pretty good, but the rest pretty meh for me.
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Noel clearly wrote all the best ones. You only have to listen to HC-DOYS for proof. The rest of the band started writing in this period and Noels songs all stick out a mile.
I highly recommend listening to Don't Believe The Truth & Dig Out Your Soul. Their best two albums since DM & MG by far.
Oh, and listen to Bring The Light, by Liam's new band Beady Eye for a good giggle.
www.beadyeyemusic.co.uk
:lol
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Big, big Oasis fan here. They were my heroes when I was 14-15 (this was during their height in 1995-1996).
Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory are classics, I especially love Morning Glory. Be Here Now was pretty good too, and The Masterplan has some brilliant B-sides. Shoulder Of Giants was pretty disappointing, but Roll it Over is a great song actually. The last couple of albums was kind of good, but nowhere near the brilliance of their first ones.
I can understand why people hate Liam's voice, but I kind of like it. At least on the first albums/songs. Noel Gallagher sure wrote some classics in his glory days. BTW Wonderwall is overrated, they've done plenty of better songs.
*Highly appreciated*
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I hate Liam's attitude. It's how he bigs everything up and when it turns out it was actually a bit rubbish he backtracks and says the next thing will be better. . He's now saying his new band are "better than oasis". He doesn't quit. That and the fact that he's *never* once admitted that he wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for Noel's songs. That is just ungrateful. His first single is just laughable. His ego needs a bruising. I kinda hope the album bombs.
Looking forward to Noel's solo stuff mind !
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Yeah Liam's attitude can be tiresome, indeed. I liked their cocky attitude when they broke through in the mid 90s. It was a breath of fresh air after the gloom of alternative rock/grunge.
I've only listened once to Beady Eye's single, it wasn't really that great. I don't really have any high hopes for it, especially since Liam's songs on the last Oasis albums weren't anything to write home about. I'm looking forward to Noel's solo stuff too!
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Yeah, big fan here. saw them live about 4 years ago and I must say it was an excellent show.
Be Here Now is my fav, I love that album, great songs all the way through. Morning Glory isn't far behind either. I like these two better than Definitely Maybe. Don't Believe the Truth is the best of the newer albums, that had some really excellent songs, and after the disappointing couple of records before that, it was a nice surprise.
I always got a kick out of Noel and Liam's interviews. Such cocky foul mouthed pricks that really deserve a kick to the head but they make me chuckle. I remember one interview that Noel did with Ian 'Molly' Meldrum and he was so drunk the interview was Noel swearing and slagging out every other artist and why Oasis is better than them.
I also remember when Liam were banned from an Australian airline for being disruptive and abusive. :lol
These guys are absolute twats but they are the real deal. Love their music. Didn't know Liam had a new project, not expecting much from it but will give it a listen.
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Grew up with Oasis
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I was never bothered with anything after the first two albums, but they're both classics.
I love the really upbeat, positive vibe on Definitely Maybe. Morning Glory doesn't quite nail it the same.
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Yeah, big fan here. saw them live about 4 years ago and I must say it was an excellent show.
Be Here Now is my fav, I love that album, great songs all the way through. Morning Glory isn't far behind either. I like these two better than Definitely Maybe. Don't Believe the Truth is the best of the newer albums, that had some really excellent songs, and after the disappointing couple of records before that, it was a nice surprise.
I always got a kick out of Noel and Liam's interviews. Such cocky foul mouthed pricks that really deserve a kick to the head but they make me chuckle. I remember one interview that Noel did with Ian 'Molly' Meldrum and he was so drunk the interview was Noel swearing and slagging out every other artist and why Oasis is better than them.
I also remember when Liam were banned from an Australian airline for being disruptive and abusive. :lol
These guys are absolute twats but they are the real deal. Love their music. Didn't know Liam had a new project, not expecting much from it but will give it a listen.
But Noel has matured and calmed down over the years whereas Liam is now a good 37 and is still a dumb cocky loud mouth buffoon.
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Never understood Oasis or any other britpop band.
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Yeah, big fan here. saw them live about 4 years ago and I must say it was an excellent show.
Be Here Now is my fav, I love that album, great songs all the way through. Morning Glory isn't far behind either. I like these two better than Definitely Maybe. Don't Believe the Truth is the best of the newer albums, that had some really excellent songs, and after the disappointing couple of records before that, it was a nice surprise.
I always got a kick out of Noel and Liam's interviews. Such cocky foul mouthed pricks that really deserve a kick to the head but they make me chuckle. I remember one interview that Noel did with Ian 'Molly' Meldrum and he was so drunk the interview was Noel swearing and slagging out every other artist and why Oasis is better than them.
I also remember when Liam were banned from an Australian airline for being disruptive and abusive. :lol
These guys are absolute twats but they are the real deal. Love their music. Didn't know Liam had a new project, not expecting much from it but will give it a listen.
But Noel has matured and calmed down over the years whereas Liam is now a good 37 and is still a dumb cocky loud mouth buffoon.
That's very true. Even though Noel was very up himself back in the day, he always knew what he was talking about and he always had substance. Liam has always been just a typical hollow head hooligan.
I hope Noel does some solo stuff soon. I'd love to see what he comes up with without Liam pestering him. His voice is lightyears ahead of Liams anyway.
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Never understood Oasis or any other britpop band.
Oasis are certainly not a run of the mill 'britpop' band.
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fave songs?
for me, champagne supernova, slide away, dyou know what i mean?
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I remember being blown away by Dyou know what I mean on the radio. Too bad the rest of the album wasn't as good..Although I did buy the TAB book and learn every song note for note :biggrin:
Noel is infinitely the better singer. I would love his singing voice. Liam cant even sing anymore. He just grunts and growls, whereas Noels voice goes from strength to strength.
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When the video for D'you Know What I Mean come out, it was simply epic, it blew my mind. Great songs, great video.
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They played Dykwim 18 times on the radio in one day !! Epic Vid yea. I remember being in awe of Noel's Silver Les Paul Florentine at the time.
I recently got myself an Epiphone Silverburst Les Paul Custom, more because of Bill Kelliher and Adam Jones, but they are an awesome finish
:coolio
I loved " its getting better (man!!) " One of noels better solos.
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Favourite songs?
There are so many but here's a couple:
(I Got) The Fever
Live Forever
Slide Away
Don't Look Back In Anger
Some Might Say
Cast No Shadow
Stand By Me
Don't Go Away
Underneath The Sky
The Masterplan
Some of their B-sides are just as brilliant as their hits. You can't say that about many other bands.
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Brilliant, brilliant band. Their first two albums are in my top 50 albums ever, and the songs are just so basic but perfect songwriting wise, they really do harken back to the Beatles days like Noel wanted to I think.
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Favourite songs?
There are so many but here's a couple:
(I Got) The Fever
Live Forever
Slide Away
Don't Look Back In Anger
Some Might Say
Cast No Shadow
Stand By Me
Don't Go Away
Underneath The Sky
The Masterplan
Some of their B-sides are just as brilliant as their hits. You can't say that about many other bands.
The Masterplan could have been an album in it's own right.
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Great band! Champagne Supernova is probably up there with the all-time greatest album closers. Paul Weller's solo sends the song into the stratosphere, before a gradual descent back to earth. Some of my other favourites include:
Rock n Roll Star
Bring It On Down
Hey Now!
D'You Know What I Mean?
All Around the World
Who Feels Love?
Sunday Morning Call
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My favorite song is this version of Wonderwall by Noel, very superior to the original for me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41xyNfxKn_U
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My favorite song is this version of Wonderwall by Noel, very superior to the original for me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41xyNfxKn_U
I love the Ryan Adams version from Love is Hell.
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I :heart Oasis
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Their first 3 albums are bloody brilliant! After that, I haven't been into them anywhere near as much, so I can't really comment on their later stuff. Morning Glory is probably still my favorite album out of anything associated with 90's alternative radio (which I loved), so that says a lot. Favorite songs include:
"Live Forever"
"Slide Away"
"Supersonic"
"Don't Look Back In Anger"
"Cast No Shadow"
"Champagne Supernova"
"Stand By Me"
"Don't Go Away"
"D'You Know What I Mean?"
"Rockin' Chair" (b side)
Oh and I love Liam's voice. Not hating on Noel at all -- he's a great singer too -- but Liam's voice IS Oasis for me.
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My favorite song is this version of Wonderwall by Noel, very superior to the original for me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41xyNfxKn_U
I love the Ryan Adams version from Love is Hell.
Yeh that's a great version..
Not as good as this of course!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy1ueZf1WMQ
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Heard them for the first time a few days ago and oh my gosh. haven't heard this great a band in a while. i love 90s alternative and this band is a great view of another kind of it, glad i finally checked out oasis.
i got definitely maybe and what's the story. i think i prefer def.maybe but i've only heard them once so far. the first tracks to that album are so emotional for me, made me think of other events or minor things in my life.
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Heard them for the first time a few days ago and oh my gosh. haven't heard this great a band in a while. i love 90s alternative and this band is a great view of another kind of it, glad i finally checked out oasis.
i got definitely maybe and what's the story. i think i prefer def.maybe but i've only heard them once so far. the first tracks to that album are so emotional for me, made me think of other events or minor things in my life.
You've never heard anything by the band before? Surely you must have heard their hits on the radio.
Get those two, plus Be Here Now.
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Heard them for the first time a few days ago and oh my gosh. haven't heard this great a band in a while. i love 90s alternative and this band is a great view of another kind of it, glad i finally checked out oasis.
i got definitely maybe and what's the story. i think i prefer def.maybe but i've only heard them once so far. the first tracks to that album are so emotional for me, made me think of other events or minor things in my life.
You've never heard anything by the band before? Surely you must have heard their hits on the radio.
Get those two, plus Be Here Now.
Yeah the first three plus the B-side collection The Masterplan are all brilliant albums. Check them out :tup
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Had a problem with them initially because Liam's persona was stolen from Ian Brown and that bugged me....also the fact that they are City supporters.
But the quality of the first two albums was such that I looked past that.
I'm not a fan of Beady Eye, sounds too generic but like what I've heard from Noel.
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What's the story morning glory can turn bad day around real quick. Its great from beginning to end and very uplifting.
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They probably should have split in 2006 rather than last year or whenever it was. 2 excellent albums followed by 15 years of meh.
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All I really remember about Oasis is being miffed that such a bland, derivative band were making it so big and the Wildhearts were getting largely ignored despite being 10x better and not having a singer whose voice wasn't toe-curling.
I think what largely annoyed me was the fact that I'd seen a video of them a year before they broke that I instantly reacted to with disdain due to how much of a Manchester-band cliché they were.
However, in retrospect Oasis did have plenty of good tunes and it's not entirely surprising that they did so well.
And The Wildhearts clearly were just too heavy to crack the British mainstream and also pissed away all the early momentum they had due to Ginger's instability when abusing substances!
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There's a thread for Oasis but not one for Blur, who sound better and have more variety?? :\
Loved Oasis since DM, some of MoGlo is too soft for me, but LOVE Be Here Now. Then Liam's voice started to crap out. Giants is pretty good, and Dig Out Your Soul is OK (even with admitted b-sides).
The new Beady Eye album sounds pretty decent, Liam is sounding close to the older days.
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Definitely Maybe
Whats The Story
High Flying Birds
Dont Believe The Truth
Dig Out Your soul
Heathen Chemistry
Be Here Now
Standing On The Shoulder of Giants
Different Gear Still Speeding.
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Liam on DBTT sounds like he's been gargling glass. And that sneer....like on Turn Up The Sun..."as a reflection on yeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwww" Ugh. That's probably my least favorite album.
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Meh - Liam's always been pretty shit as a singer. I just love the songs on that album and Noel sings three of them.
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I love his voice in the first three albums and the early demos.
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It's a band I admire, but I don't love it.
First two albums (and last) are great works of art.
I quite enjoy the first Beady Eye album... ;D
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There's a thread for Oasis but not one for Blur, who sound better and have more variety?? :\
Loved Oasis since DM, some of MoGlo is too soft for me, but LOVE Be Here Now. Then Liam's voice started to crap out. Giants is pretty good, and Dig Out Your Soul is OK (even with admitted b-sides).
The new Beady Eye album sounds pretty decent, Liam is sounding close to the older days.
Don't know if you are serious or sarcastic here. Feel free to start a Blur thread if you like. Never really cared for Blur at all besides a couple of songs.
I hear you on Be Here Now though, best Oasis album by far.
Meh - Liam's always been pretty shit as a singer. I just love the songs on that album and Noel sings three of them.
I never had a problem with Liam on DBTT. That album may be my second fav.
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Just listened to She's Electric, that's one of the most perfect pop songs ever. Still love it to death.
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I love it too.
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No surprise that High Flying Birds piss all over Beady Eye.
Also - If I was Noel - i'd definitely let Liam do a Definitely Maybe tour without him.
a.) Noel gets all the royalties for every song they play anyway...
b.) It would be dreadful and they'd just get in some randomer to play all of Noel's parts and Liam would be a laughing stock.
c.) It would prove that Liam was just doing it for the £££ - which he is because he never shuts up about wanting to do it - with or without Noel - and Noel has said on many occasions he has no interest in reforming oasis - so he is obviously happy with where he is now.
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Supposedly a big Oasis announcement at 9am GMT today.
Really hoping that if it is a reunion tour for DM's 20th year - that Noel is not involved.
1. He does not owe Liam any more favours.
2. It will be hilarious seeing Liam act like it's 1994 all over again with some randomer on lead guitar.
3. It will also be hilarious seeing what is essentially Beady Eye on stage playing nothing but oasis songs.
4. Noel will get all the royalties anyway.
5. Liam will seem like a desperate money grabber.
6. In case you hadn't worked out - I'm not a big fan of Liam :biggrin:
7. I will lose a bit of respect for Noel if he does this after constantly denying it. It would be obviously be about money as there is nothing new to be said about Def Maybe.
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Supposedly a big Oasis announcement at 9am GMT today.
Really hoping that if it is a reunion tour for DM's 20th year - that Noel is not involved.
1. He does not owe Liam any more favours.
2. It will be hilarious seeing Liam act like it's 1994 all over again with some randomer on lead guitar.
3. It will also be hilarious seeing what is essentially Beady Eye on stage playing nothing but oasis songs.
4. Noel will get all the royalties anyway.
5. Liam will seem like a desperate money grabber.
6. In case you hadn't worked out - I'm not a big fan of Liam :biggrin:
7. I will lose a bit of respect for Noel if he does this after constantly denying it. It would be obviously be about money as there is nothing new to be said about Def Maybe.
Would Liam be able to use the Oasis name himself without Noel?
I wouldn't lose any respect for him, money talks.
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Yes - Noel has said they can do what they want without him.
And Noel has got a very successful solo career now and has said since the split that he'd never do a DM tour because Oasis is over and he'd only ever do it if he was completely broke - which isn't happening anytime soon.
To go back on his word just for a blatant cash grab would be a let down for me.*
I don't give a crap what Liam does to the oasis name. As long as there's another High Flying Birds album.
* Liam is the only one who has been into the idea - and often. I can see him getting someone in on lead guitar and claiming he's doing it for the fans.
** Finally - i'd only be into a Definitely Maybe tour if they got Bonehead, Guigsy and Tony to do it. I know Bonehaed played guitar with Beady Eye recently.
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As i'd hoped - no reunion - just the first three albums reissued.
I hope this paves the way for more official retrospective releases. I'd love the Manchester GMEX 1997 show on DVD or even Knebworth 1996.
A compilation of the final three Wembley Stadium shows too would be nice.
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As i'd hoped - no reunion - just the first three albums reissued.
I hope this paves the way for more official retrospective releases. I'd love the Manchester GMEX 1997 show on DVD or even Knebworth 1996.
A compilation of the final three Wembley Stadium shows too would be nice.
I'll probably pick these up. Really looking forward to the Be Here Now one.
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Andy Bell once suggested to Noel that they put the album in Pro Tools and remove most of the rhythm guitar and edit the songs down.
They should do that at some point. Give it the remix treatment.
I'm sure there are some good songs underneath all that noise.
Someone should remind Noel that The Beatles did it with Let It Be and it's sure to happen :lol
But yeah I wouldn't mind an expanded version of Morning Glory. :)
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I'm looking forward to these. These are the best ones IMHO, the "classics".
And yes, a remix of Be Here Now would be sweet.
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I was a bit let down by Be Here Now when it came out as there was no progression from Morning Glory and the songs were starting to sound a bit the same.
For me - Don't Believe The Truth is the only worth follow up to the first two albums. **
I see their albums going in a sort of "V" shape - You have the classics DM & MG then it dips a bit with BHN & SOTSOG. It starts to get better with HC then back to full strength with DBTT and DOYS.
** Dont Believe The Truth gave me almost the same feeling as I had listening to Morning Glory the first time.
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I always loved the louder heavier sound of Be Here Now. It certainly is a bit noisy, but it fits the songs IMO. It's my fav Oasis album by far.
Don't Believe The Truth is the only worth follow up to the first two albums. **
That album was an amazing return to form.
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I liked all the albums upon release but over time I realised that Giants has maybe 3 or 4 stand out songs and the rest are really dreary songs which have a massive production and shedloads of keyboards to try and make up for the lack of inspiration.
Plus only 3 of oasis actually played on that album. Noel, Liam and Alan with Noel handling guitar and bass duties.
Heathen Chemistry was much better than Giants for me. It had a more stripped down production - although still a bit sterile - and had more songs that I liked - for longer.
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Looking forward to these reissues. I wonder if Morning Glory and Be Here Now will have the same 3CD special edition options like the Definitely Maybe 20th anniversary edition. It'd be amazing to hear the Morning Glory demoes.
As for Standing, it's probably their weakest album I agree, but for me personally that's mainly because it's got the two extremes: the high tier songs on one end and the unmemorable/filler tracks on the other. Little James is probably the worst Oasis song EVER IMO, but considering it's Liam who wrote it (and his first one I believe!) it's no shocker. I think the demoes than Noel sang on for Standing are better than the actual album itself.
It's nice to see Oasis fans on this forum. For a long time I felt as if Oasis was a guilty pleasure of mine for many reasons. Now I don't feel embarrassed to admit that I love Oasis.
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I think the demoes than Noel sang on for Standing are better than the actual album itself.
+1. A few good b-sides from that album too: Carry Us All and One Way Road.
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I think the demoes than Noel sang on for Standing are better than the actual album itself.
+1. A few good b-sides from that album too: Carry Us All and One Way Road.
Let's All Make Believe is great too. I haven't heard the demos for Standing, I have to check them out.
And Roll It Over is my favourite on that album. Such an overlooked gem.
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Great songs on Shoulder Of Giants :
Fuckin' in The Bushes
Go Let it Out
Gas Panic
Roll It Over
Good Songs :
Who Feels Love?
Where Did It All Go Wrong?
Weak songs:
Sunday Morning Call
Little James
Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is.
I Can See A Liar - this is almost a great song but the lyrics ruin it.
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I see Liam has had a pop at Liam on twitter for quitting oasis and being a "roadie" from the 80s.
Let's see shall we ? In the 80s - Noel was on tour with the Inspiral Carpets - writing the songs that would go on to make you extremely wealthy and famous.
..Not sure I see your problem.
Also - Noel quit the band in 2009. This is almost 5 years ago. nice and up to date, Liam.
How's Beady Eye doing ? Have you played Knebworth yet ? ;)
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I'd put WDIAGW in the great section and SMC in the good section.
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Sunday Morning Call needs to be faster. It's quite dreary at that speed.
I'd put I Can See A Liar in the good section - barely - if it had good lyrics. The solo is decent. But overall - it's no Headshrinker.
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I think I'd dislike Sunday Morning Call even more than I do now if it was faster. I don't think the change in tempo would help the song out IMO. I like the instrumental for I Can See A Liar but lyrically is what kills it for me. I think Who Feels Love is a great song, but that's because I like it as a live song rather than a studio song...the studio version sounds stripped down compared to the one on Familiar To Millions. Roll It Over is probably my favorite off of the album. It was never played live but if they did I would imagine it'd be extended a little bit at the end.
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I was lucky enough to see Who Feels Love at the concert featured on Familiar To Millions.
There is something about enormous gigs like that.
The second time I saw oasis was at Cardiff International Arena in 2002.
Much smaller and I was right at the front and Liam tried staring me out. He lost. :lol.
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Turn Up The Sun is such a great opener.
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Turn Up The Sun is such a great opener.
Yes it is. Andy needs to write more songs like that in Beady Eye. Not the vaguely psychedelic boring nothing music they do now.
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I remember when I first heard Beady Eye's first single from their debut and it was basically " Great Balls Of Fire " and I was like :lol :rollin wtf is this?!
Then I heard " If I Had A Gun " From High Flying Birds and I was like :o :'( SO GOOD !
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Apparently Noel is releasing a new solo album, don't know when though.
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/noel_gallaghers_new_solo_album_is_as_exciting_as_definitely_maybe.html
As exciting as Definitely Maybe? Hmmm...
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Probably not.
That said,DM and WTSMG are both very important albums for me.
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Apparently Noel is releasing a new solo album, don't know when though.
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/noel_gallaghers_new_solo_album_is_as_exciting_as_definitely_maybe.html
As exciting as Definitely Maybe? Hmmm...
It'll definitely not maybe be better than either Beady Eye album and at least as good as High Flying Birds.
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Link: https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/oasis-liam-gallagher-ends-custody-battle-liza-ghorbani-article-1.2163111
Oasis frontman Liam Gallagher ends child support battle with writer Liza Ghorbani
His wonderwall has been torn down.
Bad boy rocker Liam Gallagher has ended his long legal feud with writer Liza Ghorbani and their 2-year-old daughter.
The former Oasis frontman settled their two-year legal battle over child support for their adorable tyke, Gemma, lawyers for both sides told a Manhattan Supreme Court judge Thursday.
“I'm just really relieved this ordeal is over for the sake of my daughter,” Ghorbani said afterwards.
The terms of the deal are confidential, but it’s believed to be for more than the court-ordered $5,000 a month Ghorbani had been getting from the British rocker.
Justice Laura Drager said she'd reviewed the terms of the settlement, and that it was a “just and appropriate resolution of the issues that were before the court,” and “very fair.”
Gallagher was not in court for the proceeding, but unlike his prior missed appearances, this time he had permission not to be there. His lawyer, Raoul Felder, said he was in the United Kingdom, and acknowledged to the judge that the distance had been an issue in resolving the case. The "Wonderwall" singer had twice been fined for missing court.
Liza Ghorbani is suing British singer Liam Gallagher to get child support for their daughter. Gallagher has been a no show for the last few court appearances. Marcus Santos
Liza Ghorbani is suing British singer Liam Gallagher to get child support for their daughter. Gallagher has been a no show for the last few court appearances.
It's unclear if the agreement had any sort of visitation provision. Ghorbani has said that the singer has never even met the little girl.
Both Felder and Ghorbani's lawyer, Ira Garr, thanked the judge for helping them settle the occasionally contentious case.
They said the bulk of the details had been worked out over the course of the past two days, but the judge helped them hammer out a few final details before calling the case.
“Good luck to you and your daughter,” the judge told Ghorbani afterwards.
Gallagher, 42, has four children with four women. He had his tryst with Ghorbani in 2010, when she was writing a story about him for the New York Times.
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Four kids with 4 different mothers. 2 of whom were extra-marital.
Confirmed for C*nt.
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Just thinking that some of my favorite Oasis songs are ones that are only in demo form: Colour My Life, Take Me, I Will Show You, etc. Colour My Life definitely should have been at least a b-side.
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Take Me Away was pretty poor though. Terrible lyrics even for back then.
Noel has got some great lyrics in him ( Masterplan ). But most of Be Here Now seemed to be just " fuck it - that rhymes " :p
The song Be Here Now especially. Not one lyric in that song makes any sense at all.
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Liam Gallagher fined £3,300 for missing child support hearing again
Mega C*nt.
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Liam Gallagher confirms solo album.
:rollin :rollin
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Ghorbani has said that the singer has never even met the little girl.
He had his tryst with Ghorbani in 2010, when she was writing a story about him for the New York Times.
That makes me sad. He IS a c**t, but it's inappropriate for a writer to sleep with their subject, so it's not as if she has completely clean hands here. Still, doesn't excuse that after that pregnancy test, all that shit has to go out the window, and the child has to come first.
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Liam is just a terrible person.
He's just a thug who got lucky.
His solo album is going to be hilariously shit. I cannot wait to hear how bad it is.
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Liam is just a terrible person.
He's just a thug who got lucky.
His solo album is going to be hilariously shit. I cannot wait to hear how bad it is.
I thought Beady Eye was his solo outing :lol I was massively disappointed with Beady Eye.
By the way, is it worth getting the Oasis remasters?
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I've not heard them. I'd be interested in what they do with Be Here Now. If anything they should UN master it.
EDIT : Actually I just remembered I OWN the Morning Glory 3CD reissue :lol
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"I'm a c**t" should be his album title!
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"I'm a c**t" should be his album title!
Fact.
" Do a solo album ? No way. I'm not a C**t "
Well Liam it seems you are. And always have been. And ungrateful. And bitter. And arrogant. And talentless.
Liam is unbelievably ungrateful for Noel for single handedly making him a millionaire. Noel wrote the first 3 albums and B Sides that basically made them HUGE.
All Liam had to do was turn up to the gigs and "vocalise" into a mic. That's all he was required to do. His brother made him a millionaire from his ability to be at a place and make noises into a mic.
I don't think i've ever once read Liam say how grateful he is to Noel for that. Not once. Then in the years after Noel quit Oasis - All Liam did in the press was badmouth everything Noel did.
Noel wisely took the high road and didn't lower himself to it. He even said Beady Eye were alright.
I badly want his solo album to fail. :tdwn
I even read a comment on an oasis pic online that " Noel is ungrateful to Liam for quitting oasis when it was Liam's voice that made Noel a millionaire "
:rollin. Yeah that same voice that made Beady Eye massive...oh wait it was the songs wasn't it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyJU2136ym4
D'You Know What I Mean video HD Remaster with new grade and edited to Noel's remix of the track.
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Been listening a lot to Oasis lately, amazing band at their peak I must say.
Morning Glory is a 5/5, Definitely Maybe just slightly below (still amazing), The Masterplan is a superb collection of B-Sides that is almost as good as those two albums, and I even really like Be Here Now, in all its coke weirdness.
Gonna move forward chronologically but just wanted to share the love.
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I agree with all you said. Morning Glory is a masterpiece, Definitely Maybe is just a notch below for me too. The Masterplan has lots of brilliant tracks. Be Here Now is pretty good too, although quite overblown in places.
Have fun moving on chronologically - but beware, the best stuff stops there :P
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I agree with all you said. Morning Glory is a masterpiece, Definitely Maybe is just a notch below for me too. The Masterplan has lots of brilliant tracks. Be Here Now is pretty good too, although quite overblown in places.
Have fun moving on chronologically - but beware, the best stuff stops there :P
True, but I really liked Don't Believe the Truth. That had some really good stuff on it.
Be Here Now was always my fav to be honest.
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I agree with all you said. Morning Glory is a masterpiece, Definitely Maybe is just a notch below for me too. The Masterplan has lots of brilliant tracks. Be Here Now is pretty good too, although quite overblown in places.
Have fun moving on chronologically - but beware, the best stuff stops there :P
Disagree strongly.
I think there are some brilliant moments on "Standing..." (even if Noel himself has slagged it) and I REALLY like Dig Out Your Soul. If they ended at "Don't Believe the Truth", I could reasonably say "it was time". But I really liked the last one and was sad that it imploded.
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Agree to disagree. There are some good stuff spread out over the rest of the albums, and I do enjoy Don't Believe The Truth. But for me there was a steep decline in quality after The Masterplan.
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Yeah I've heard the quality drops but even so, if there are a few good tracks on each album then there's magic left to find. I will say, I'm curious regarding Be Here Now how the album would have been received if it had similar production/mix to the first two albums. Listening to it, it's almost mind boggling how many layers of guitars they crammed into it. I mean I still think it's a great album, but it's really loud and would have been interesting to hear it but in the sound of Definitely Maybe or Morning Glory.
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I'm biased, but for my money, the quality of the record is DIRECTLY tied to how much Noel wrote.
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Been moving onto Standing on the Shoulder of Giants, and it's alright. While I agree that the quality has dropped from Be Here Now (which in itself was a drop from Morning Glory), I don't think it's BAD. Most of these songs sound like passable Oasis B-sides with a few highlights to give some excitement during a listen. I would say the two standouts for me are "Go Let it Out" which is really catchy and has some nice melodies, and "Gas Panic!" which reminds me a bit of Columbia, one of my favorite Oasis songs. It doesn't quite reach that level, but has a similar way of packing a lot of atmosphere in the guitars. I think for the most part it's a decent album, but put it up against their really good albums and obviously it pales.
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My personal favourite on that album is the closer, Roll It Over. It's big and epic, with some fine choirs. There's some nice B sides from that period too - Let's All Make Believe is great.
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Yeah, this album could so nearly have been another classic if they'd included 3 of the b-sides (Let's All Make Believe, One Way Road and the beautiful Carry Us All) and left the awful Little James off it. There's some great material on this one, my personal favourite (of the tracks they actually included) being Sunday Morning Call.
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Oh yeah, Roll it Over is great too. As for Little James, I'm torn on it. I think musically it's pretty good but lyrically it's pretty bad.
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Yeah, this album could so nearly have been another classic if they'd included 3 of the b-sides (Let's All Make Believe, One Way Road and the beautiful Carry Us All) and left the awful Little James off it. There's some great material on this one, my personal favourite (of the tracks they actually included) being Sunday Morning Call.
That melody - Sunday Morning Call - is just beautiful, and it sticks in your head.
I'm still convinced that Noel let Liam put Little James on there to mock him and the message was just lost.
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By the way here's the 'trailer' for Noel's new solo album which will be released next month:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRplVmpZCa8
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Liam Gallagher's solo album is being released tomorrow. Anybody heard any snippets? I haven't. Beady Eye was a bit of a disappointment for me. I'll give this one a try eventually...
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I heard one track. It's a pop song sung by the guy from Oasis. For me, Noel's stuff had an added edge; it was poppy, but it had an edge; there was Who in there, and David Bowie, and Slade... the Liam song I heard was trying too hard to be 2015 not 1975.
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Writing about the b-sides for Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants made me revisit all their non-album tracks, and for my own interest I decided to come up with my own ideal track-listings for the 4 albums already mentioned in this thread by Zantera.
No other band that I'm aware of has ever had such a ridiculously high standard of b-sides (Smashing Pumpkins and early Radiohead come close). So here are the albums I'd have put out, if I were Noel. I've used the studio tracks and b-sides from the singles released from that album's singles (plus the single 'Whatever', from the Definitely Maybe era):
Definitely Maybe:
Rock 'n Roll Star
Take Me Away (b-side from Supersonic)
Listen Up (b-side from Cigarettes and Alcohol)
Live Forever
Supersonic
Cigarettes and Alcohol
Slide Away
Fade Away (b-side from Cigarettes and Alcohol)
Whatever
Half The World Away (b-side from Whatever)
It's Good To be Free (b-side from Whatever)
What's The Story Morning Glory (very hard to do, just a crazily amazing year for Noel Gallagher's song-writing ingenuity):
Acquiesce (b-side from Some Might Say)
Some Might Say
Talk Tonight (b-side from Some Might Say)
Underneath The Sky (b-side from Don't Look Back In Anger)
Wonderwall
Don't Look Back In Anger
What's The Story Morning Glory
Cast No Shadow
Champagne Supernova
Rockin' Chair (b-side from Roll With It)
The Masterplan (b-side from Wonderwall)
Be Here Now:
D'You Know What I Mean
Stay Young (b-side from D'You Know What I Mean)
Stand By Me
Going Nowhere (b-side from Stand By Me)
Don't Go Away
Be Here Now
Sad Song (b-side from Don't Go Away)
All Around The World
It's Gettin' Better Man
All Around The World (Reprise)
Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants
Fuckin' In The Bushes
Go Let It Out
Who Feels Love
Let's All Make Believe (b-side from Go Let It Out)
Gas Panic
One Way Road (b-side from Who Feels Love?)
Where Did It All Go Wrong?
Carry Us All (b-side from Sunday Morning Call)
Roll It Over
Sunday Morning Call
(By the way, for me, my track-listing for Be Here Now turns an overblown, exhausting listen into a really beautiful and heart-felt record. That album gets dismissed a lot, but Noel wrote some truly superb songs that year)
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Agreed with "Be Here Now", but I just want to say that the "alternate album" from the b-sides to the first two records would have been glorious.
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Agreed with "Be Here Now"
Having lost a parent to cancer, the song 'Don't Go Away' is emotionally devastating to me. Noel wrote it after his mother (the only parent he ever knew) was diagnosed with cancer, and for me, those 3 words in the song title basically sum up every emotion you feel in that situation.
There is a tonne of feeling on that album, it wasn't all coked-up nonsense as the critics at the time said. Don't Go Away, Stand By Me, even the perfectly fair Led Zeppelin copy 'Be Here Now' are all classic tunes.
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I agree that they had brilliant B-sides, not many other bands could compete in that regard.
Nice compilation there, Dave_Manchester. I really love 'I Got The Fever' though so I would add it to Be Here Now. It's a personal favourite of mine.
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Liam Gallagher's solo album is being released tomorrow. Anybody heard any snippets? I haven't. Beady Eye was a bit of a disappointment for me. I'll give this one a try eventually...
Just checked out the album today - it's surprisingly great! Of course it isn't anything groundbreaking, but well worth a listen.
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The epic song on Giants for me is Where Did It All Go Wrong. Who Feels Love was a single over THAT? C'mon.
I've heard clips of Liam's album, sounds decent.
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I've heard a few songs off Liam's album, some fine stuff there.
Not so sure about Noel's latest single though, Holy Mountain. It's been compared with She Bangs by Ricky Martin, and I can hear it in the chorus.
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on my iPod I have the album, and a "b-sides" album for each one. I just listened to "Be Here Now" and it's companion b-sides album and man. The title track is KILLER, Dave nailed it with "Don't Go Away" ("Damn my education, I can't find the words to say, about the things caught in my mind") and I love the song "Flashbax".
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I've never been a huge fan of Oasis, just liked a few songs here and there but Liam's voice was mostly grating to me. I've just checked a couple of songs on Youtube out of boredom (Wall of Glass and For What It's Worth live at the studio) and I have to say his voice has aged pretty greatly. Maybe those who liked that distinctive edge are disappointed with the new Liam, but to me it's a lot more enjoyable now.
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He's a twat (listen to the recent interview with Howard; it was like listening to a conversation with a 17 year old trying to impress a girl in high school) but his voice is magic with Noel's songs.
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Asian remix of Wonderwall:
https://youtu.be/pk5cuDMADrI
I like it.
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On 18 February 2019, Liam announced that he had been informed by Noel that the latter would sue him if Liam's new documentary As It Was contained Liam singing Oasis songs. Liam had announced the documentary's release earlier that month.
It never ends will it? :facepalm:
Listening to Heathen Chemistry, some great songs on that one.
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On 18 February 2019, Liam announced that he had been informed by Noel that the latter would sue him if Liam's new documentary As It Was contained Liam singing Oasis songs. Liam had announced the documentary's release earlier that month.
It never ends will it? :facepalm:
Listening to Heathen Chemistry, some great songs on that one.
Lol wut?
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On 18 February 2019, Liam announced that he had been informed by Noel that the latter would sue him if Liam's new documentary As It Was contained Liam singing Oasis songs. Liam had announced the documentary's release earlier that month.
It never ends will it? :facepalm:
Listening to Heathen Chemistry, some great songs on that one.
Lol wut?
Haven't heard it before so i'm not sure what the general opinion is but Stop Crying, Songbird and Little by Little are fine songs in my opinion.
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That is a very solid album, especially the first half of it.
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On 18 February 2019, Liam announced that he had been informed by Noel that the latter would sue him if Liam's new documentary As It Was contained Liam singing Oasis songs. Liam had announced the documentary's release earlier that month.
It never ends will it? :facepalm:
Listening to Heathen Chemistry, some great songs on that one.
Lol wut?
Haven't heard it before so i'm not sure what the general opinion is but Stop Crying, Songbird and Little by Little are fine songs in my opinion.
No, I was referring to Noel sueing Liam. :lol yeah, HC is not that bad.
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On 18 February 2019, Liam announced that he had been informed by Noel that the latter would sue him if Liam's new documentary As It Was contained Liam singing Oasis songs. Liam had announced the documentary's release earlier that month.
It never ends will it? :facepalm:
Listening to Heathen Chemistry, some great songs on that one.
Lol wut?
Haven't heard it before so i'm not sure what the general opinion is but Stop Crying, Songbird and Little by Little are fine songs in my opinion.
No, I was referring to Noel sueing Liam. :lol yeah, HC is not that bad.
Oh then yea...I agree. WTF? :lol
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If not mistaken, this is their first year of eligibility for the Rock Hall Of Fame. They might get in just becuase of Liam and Noel's bickering.
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Liam Gallagher - Everything's Electric (https://youtu.be/045SzeMuzv8)
Co-written with Dave Grohl. I really like the chorus.
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Christ, where does the time go? Oasis are to release some special edition goodies for the 25th anniversary of Be Here Now (I remember its release as if it were yesterday). Here's the 'trailer' for what's available:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yWlSPe7nfE
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Christ, where does the time go? Oasis are to release some special edition goodies for the 25th anniversary of Be Here Now (I remember its release as if it were yesterday). Here's the 'trailer' for what's available:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yWlSPe7nfE
I know it's a coke-fueled mess, but on any given day, my favorite Oasis record.
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Christ, where does the time go? Oasis are to release some special edition goodies for the 25th anniversary of Be Here Now (I remember its release as if it were yesterday). Here's the 'trailer' for what's available:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yWlSPe7nfE
I know it's a coke-fueled mess, but on any given day, my favorite Oasis record.
I went down a Be Here Now rabbit hole last night and apparently it's Liam's favourite Oasis album. Here he gives his customarily eloquent musings on all the records he's been on, and ranks them:
https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/liam-gallagher-oasis-beady-eye-best-album-2147407
And according to Noel himself, Marilyn Manson is a huge fan of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aqwIJ3e2NY
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Christ, where does the time go? Oasis are to release some special edition goodies for the 25th anniversary of Be Here Now (I remember its release as if it were yesterday). Here's the 'trailer' for what's available:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yWlSPe7nfE
I know it's a coke-fueled mess, but on any given day, my favorite Oasis record.
By far. I can't believe it was 25 years. I remember buying the album as a 13 year old, I loved the slightly heavier edge to the whole thing and the songs stack up. By far their best record IMO.
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I know it's a coke-fueled mess, but on any given day, my favorite Oasis record.
Yup. A record as big as the band was.
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I don't think it comes close to their first two albums but there are good things on there. I guess the issue is the people running the show making the decisions were all coked out of their minds and it wasn't the good old 'drugs made it great' either.
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The first recorded gig of Oasis from before the release of their first single:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbtDjDAq1vk
This is gold for me. I've told the story before but I saw Oasis from the very beginning, from before even this footage when they played a tiny hall - now the site of a swimming pool - in my home town. Seeing this brought back such vivid memories of the band at that time, when you really felt that you were witnessing something that was about to become huge (in Britain's case, generationally huge). Tiny stage or football stadium, the swagger was always the same.
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The first recorded gig of Oasis from before the release of their first single:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbtDjDAq1vk
This is gold for me. I've told the story before but I saw Oasis from the very beginning, from before even this footage when they played a tiny hall - now the site of a swimming pool - in my home town. Seeing this brought back such vivid memories of the band at that time, when you really felt that you were witnessing something that was about to become huge (in Britain's case, generationally huge). Tiny stage or football stadium, the swagger was always the same.
I've heard audio of (parts of) this show. I don't get jealous or envious of musical things very often, but this is one of them. I've seen both solo, but never saw the band itself. They remind me of the original Guns'n'Roses in that there's a clear vibe about them where, like you said, you had that feeling of seeing something special.
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The first recorded gig of Oasis from before the release of their first single:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbtDjDAq1vk
This is gold for me. I've told the story before but I saw Oasis from the very beginning, from before even this footage when they played a tiny hall - now the site of a swimming pool - in my home town. Seeing this brought back such vivid memories of the band at that time, when you really felt that you were witnessing something that was about to become huge (in Britain's case, generationally huge). Tiny stage or football stadium, the swagger was always the same.
I've heard audio of (parts of) this show. I don't get jealous or envious of musical things very often, but this is one of them. I've seen both solo, but never saw the band itself. They remind me of the original Guns'n'Roses in that there's a clear vibe about them where, like you said, you had that feeling of seeing something special.
I saw them in 2007 or 2008. It was a great show.
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I love Liam's voice in the early days. Shame it went to shit around 2000.
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Rehearsing All Around The World in 1992 (i.e before anyone knew who they were) :
https://youtube.com/watch?v=W_z6NtTLeaI
Imagine having a tune like this and you don't get around to recording it until 5 years and 2 albums (plus a tonne of b-sides) later. Speaks to how amazing Noel's golden era of song-writing was.
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Rehearsing All Around The World in 1992 (i.e before anyone knew who they were) :
https://youtube.com/watch?v=W_z6NtTLeaI
Imagine having a tune like this and you don't get around to recording it until 5 years and 2 albums (plus a tonne of b-sides) later. Speaks to how amazing Noel's golden era of song-writing was.
I know this sounds silly, since we have the music and all, but I miss them. The band, that is. It had a certain chemistry that the individual members just don't have individually. :)
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In the early 90's in America you had Pearl Jam vs Nirvana, here in the UK it was Oasis vs Blur. Personally (as someone from the UK) I much preferred the whole Seattle Sound over Britpop. I actually disliked Blur more than Oasis at the time, but I think Blur actually were far more creative and interesting in their later years.
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In the early 90's in America you had Pearl Jam vs Nirvana, here in the UK it was Oasis vs Blur. Personally (as someone from the UK) I much preferred the whole Seattle Sound over Britpop. I actually disliked Blur more than Oasis at the time, but I think Blur actually were far more creative and interesting in their later years.
I'm also from the UK but was never massively into either scene at the time, as I was too young. However, my older sister massively was. She was all about Blur and Nirvana out of those 4 bands.
As I got into music I still wasn't particularly I to either scene but would generally pick grunge every time. The last few years though I've started revisiting some of the big bands from the Britpop scene, and I really appreciate them way more now. I would've picked Blur over Oasis years ago but now it's pretty close between the two.
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In the early 90's in America you had Pearl Jam vs Nirvana, here in the UK it was Oasis vs Blur. Personally (as someone from the UK) I much preferred the whole Seattle Sound over Britpop. I actually disliked Blur more than Oasis at the time, but I think Blur actually were far more creative and interesting in their later years.
I'm also from the UK but was never massively into either scene at the time, as I was too young. However, my older sister massively was. She was all about Blur and Nirvana out of those 4 bands.
As I got into music I still wasn't particularly I to either scene but would generally pick grunge every time. The last few years though I've started revisiting some of the big bands from the Britpop scene, and I really appreciate them way more now. I would've picked Blur over Oasis years ago but now it's pretty close between the two.
Manic Street Preachers are the only band classed as Britpop that I could honest say I really like (Mansun were decent too).
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In the early 90's in America you had Pearl Jam vs Nirvana, here in the UK it was Oasis vs Blur. Personally (as someone from the UK) I much preferred the whole Seattle Sound over Britpop. I actually disliked Blur more than Oasis at the time, but I think Blur actually were far more creative and interesting in their later years - 'The sound of football hooliganism' someone once wrote about Oasis and that's fair IMO.
HAHAHAHA, as someone in the US, I much preferred the Britpop sound! I wasn't (and still aren't) a real fan of Blur, but I lean toward the poppier side of things, so in my view, Oasis is better than anything that came out of Seattle by a long shot.
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I saw Pearl Jam in The Manchester Evening News arena (MEN) back in 2000. Eddie between songs mentioned this being the home of Oasis (manchester) and there was a mixed response, I think he was surprised (or playing on it) and got the crowd to either cheer or boo for Oasis, I think the Boo's rang louder, so Eddie turned to the band as says 'Ok we better scrub Wonderwall from this setlist'. ;D
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Wow, AATW is that old? huh.
I'm in the US and grunge was cool, but I LOOOOOVED the britpop era. So much fun and life to that music. Blur are still my favorite band. Oasis was my 2nd favorite during the "britpop war". I still listen to old britpop more than most other genres.
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I got into a bunch of the britpop (or britpop adjacent) bands after I got into Oasis and there's just a lot of great stuff there. The first two Oasis albums are amazing but I must admit that their output after that started declining for me and the first two albums and Masterplan (the b-sides collection) are really all I need from them. I sometimes spin Be Here Now which I think is fine (but a bit bloated and full of cocaine) and I sometimes even get to Standing on the Shoulders of Giants but then I think to myself "Nah I'm good". Oasis had a particular sound and while some bands can keep the same sound and formula and still make amazing albums, for me even the better albums they put out in the 00s suffer from being like the first two albums but just not as good. (IMO at least).
Blur is probably my favorite out of the bunch because they're so damn versatile. The early stuff has a fun youthful vibe to it, but I like how they started evolving their sound as well. Experimenting and doing different things, adding electronic soundscapes into the mix. Radiohead get a lot of praise for the shift from OK Computer to Kid A/Amnesiac, and deservedly so, but Blur kinda did it first. While it could be argued that Blur didn't make an album as good as Morning Glory (Parklife and 13 gets the closest for me) I think what Blur has going for them is that they also never made a bad album, in my opinion. Even their last two albums are albums I would rather revisit than some of the later Oasis ones.
Also really like Suede. Their classic albums hold up and their most recent ones are actually really good in my opinion. The last 3 or 4 albums have all been great. They also fall a bit more on the one dimensional side (like Oasis) where I think you will either like them or you won't, unlike Blur where you might like album X but not album Y.
The Verve gets forgotten and they only made 3 albums (before a 4th reunion one) but all 3 are fantastic in my opinion. Urban Hymns gets the focus because it has Bittersweet Symphony, but it also has other fantastic rockers like The Rolling People and Come On. Their debut is a fantastic Shoegaze/Dream pop infused album and the middle album kinda has elements from both.
Pulp is the one I guess I wish I got into more because they just never clicked with me. I enjoyed some of their classic albums but on a scale of britpop enjoyment I still go back for some of the weaker albums from the other bands more often.
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AIsis: new music with Liam AI vocals. Pretty good. :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whB21dr2Hlc
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George Harrison/Beatles AI cover of Don't Look Back In Anger :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF48vIoYrBI
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Every single time there's a new post in this thread, I click, hoping beyond hope, that they've decided to give it one more whirl.
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Loved this. This is how you mess up a solo when playing live; with a great big smile on your face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnyRGcd3G8c
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Loved this. This is how you mess up a solo when playing live; with a great big smile on your face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnyRGcd3G8c
Haha, that was great.
What do you make of the (relative) uptick on "Oasis" chatter? Liam's "It's happening". Mancunian cheek? Or something of substance? Noel has a new album coming out, so the timing isn't really optimal for a huge Oasis announcement.
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Watched the video for "Familiar To Millions" this week and currently watching the "Lord Don't Slow Me Down" doc.
Noel is touring the UK this spring and summer... I may try to get over and see my kid and maybe catch a show. Now that Mike is back in DT, I'm not sure there's a band I want to see get back together more than Oasis.
EDIT: I don't really intimidate easy (though I also tend to be overly respectful in those situations since I don't want to be "that guy" that gets made fun of as soon as I leave the room) but I think I would be intimated by meeting Noel.
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Noel is touring the UK this spring and summer... I may try to get over and see my kid and maybe catch a show. Now that Mike is back in DT, I'm not sure there's a band I want to see get back together more than Oasis.
Noel has such a chip on his shoulder regarding Liam, the only way I could see them together is if Liam's career had been a massive flop and he had to go begging back to Noel. Unfortunately for Noel, Liam's post Oasis career is on the up (since he gave up trying to write songs himself!) and his more recent output is outselling Noel's High Flying Birds - which must really burn with Noel!