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Dream Theater => Bootlegs and Trading => Topic started by: Perpetual Change on October 23, 2010, 05:48:35 AM

Title: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: Perpetual Change on October 23, 2010, 05:48:35 AM
Dream Theater- Live in Seoul 2000. Had some SC-era promo pics on it. Setlist:

01. Overture 1928 (3:34)
02. Strange Deja Vu (5:23)
03. Through Mu Words (0:58)
04. Fatal Tragedy (6:43)
05. Beyond This Life (11:24)
06. Through Her Eyes (6:22)
07. Home (13:11)
08. The Dance Of Eternity (7:27)
09. One Last Time (4:08)
10. The Spirit Carries On (6:39)
11. Finally Free (11:04)
12. Puppies On Asid Acos II (4:23)
13. Just Let Me Breathe (2:53)
14. Pull Me Under (2:39)
15. Under A Grass Moon (3:33)
16. A Fortune In Lies (1:31)
17. Take The Time (3:51)
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Total playing time: 1:35:43

Anyone have it and should I buy?
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: MajorMatt on October 23, 2010, 08:54:34 AM
Yeah I have a copy I think, its a TV broadcast IIRC that someone has recorded onto a vcr and then transferred to DVD so the quality isnt brilliant, but its watchable. They were having a lot of troubles with the audio levels too that night but as I said, its watchable.

A YouTube sample for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHiZqYDT504

Bear in mind the DVD will be marginally better than this becuase of YouTube compression.

I got the show from dimeadozen i think, so if you didnt want a hard copy or would be comfortable making your own then I'd get it from there.

Thanks
Matt

Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on October 23, 2010, 09:15:33 AM
Oh shit that was just offered as the Bootleg of the Month on trialoftears.net
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: Nick on October 23, 2010, 12:34:13 PM
should I buy?

You should never ever ever ever buy a bootleg. It's dumb and a slap in the face to the band.
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: Perpetual Change on October 23, 2010, 07:54:36 PM
should I buy?

You should never ever ever ever buy a bootleg. It's dumb and a slap in the face to the band.

Yeah. I found the DVD somewhere else and downloaded it today. I'm glad I didn't buy, especially since they were asking for like $350 HKD, which is around 50 bucks US. It's not that great, nothing really that we don't have already thanks to LSFNY. James vocals are really, really bad in the beginning but thankfully he enters god mode toward the end.

Do kinda wish I could find a DVD of this quality from either of the last two tours, though.
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: DREAMS FTIME45 on October 25, 2010, 01:48:49 AM
Mike Portnoy was an avid bootleg collector so fans should have the right to buy whatever they want
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: MajorMatt on October 25, 2010, 06:28:44 AM
Mike Portnoy was an avid bootleg collector so fans should have the right to buy whatever they want

Just because you are a bootleg collector doesn't mean you buy bootlegs, most of it is done via trading or the internet.
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: DREAMS FTIME45 on October 25, 2010, 04:43:54 PM
Forgot to mention he was a trader in the early days
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: bosk1 on October 26, 2010, 05:49:46 PM
Mike Portnoy was an avid bootleg collector so fans should have the right to buy whatever they want

Just because you are a bootleg collector doesn't mean you buy bootlegs, most of it is done via trading or the internet.

Matt is correct.  The issue is not having bootlegs.  That's fine.  That's why we have a bootleg section on the forum.  The issue is buying them.  Money should never, ever trade hands.  The bootlegged show is not the property of the bootlegger, so he/she has no right to charge anyone for it.  If someone shares a show, that's a different matter entirely. 
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: TAC on October 27, 2010, 02:40:09 PM
I haven't watched this in a while. Busted it out today. I always thought a cleaned up version would be a candidate for a Ytsejam release.
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: Perpetual Change on October 28, 2010, 09:03:09 AM
Eh, I'm not sure. James gets better as the night goes on, but it just doesn't seem to have anything on the LSFNY show. I'd prefer one of the more "normal" ToT shows first. Those were awesome.

I think CiM would have been a great YTSEjam release, too, and would have been way more well received that way.
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: Samsara on February 02, 2011, 03:38:10 PM
Mike Portnoy was an avid bootleg collector so fans should have the right to buy whatever they want

Just because you are a bootleg collector doesn't mean you buy bootlegs, most of it is done via trading or the internet.

Matt is correct.  The issue is not having bootlegs.  That's fine.  That's why we have a bootleg section on the forum.  The issue is buying them.  Money should never, ever trade hands.  The bootlegged show is not the property of the bootlegger, so he/she has no right to charge anyone for it.  If someone shares a show, that's a different matter entirely. 

Well, as you know, bosk1, it is all highly illegal, even if shared. But for purposes of THIS board, and its rules, you hit the nail on the head.   :angel:
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: Nick on February 02, 2011, 06:02:24 PM
Mike Portnoy was an avid bootleg collector so fans should have the right to buy whatever they want

Just because you are a bootleg collector doesn't mean you buy bootlegs, most of it is done via trading or the internet.

Matt is correct.  The issue is not having bootlegs.  That's fine.  That's why we have a bootleg section on the forum.  The issue is buying them.  Money should never, ever trade hands.  The bootlegged show is not the property of the bootlegger, so he/she has no right to charge anyone for it.  If someone shares a show, that's a different matter entirely. 

Well, as you know, bosk1, it is all highly illegal, even if shared. But for purposes of THIS board, and its rules, you hit the nail on the head.   :angel:

I don't think there has been any official rulings to show that they are illegal at all.
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: Octavawake on March 07, 2011, 07:54:29 PM
Surely they can't be illegal? No money is gained and if anything, it's encouraging support for the band in question!
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: bosk1 on March 14, 2011, 12:08:09 PM
If they were illegal, trading them would not be permitted on this site.
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: Progmetty on April 12, 2011, 05:25:15 PM
Damn! a SFAM era proshot! I'd like that one so much!
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 15, 2011, 09:11:25 PM
I downloaded it. It's OK. I wouldn't have paid for it, though. The vocal performance is nowhere near LSFNY.
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: tjanuranus on May 27, 2011, 04:51:36 PM
Yeah I have a copy I think, its a TV broadcast IIRC that someone has recorded onto a vcr and then transferred to DVD so the quality isnt brilliant, but its watchable. They were having a lot of troubles with the audio levels too that night but as I said, its watchable.

A YouTube sample for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHiZqYDT504

Bear in mind the DVD will be marginally better than this becuase of YouTube compression.

I got the show from dimeadozen i think, so if you didnt want a hard copy or would be comfortable making your own then I'd get it from there.

Thanks
Matt



wow the crowd energy is awesome there! i wish the shows i go to here would be more like that.
Title: Re: Saw this DVD in a store today
Post by: novenpeter on July 06, 2011, 06:50:50 AM
sorry may i ask Perpetual Change are you hong konger, would you like to tell where to find some more dream theater DVD? thanks