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General => Movies and TV => Topic started by: ReaPsTA on February 04, 2010, 07:49:37 AM
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One of my friends recommended this show to me, and I wish I had been made aware of it sooner. I just got done watching Season 1 in the span of one night because it was so addicting. SPOILER FILLED THOUGHTS:
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- Part of me really wishes Dexter killed the ex-husband. He's truly the most miserable kind of person in existence.
- I think the plot arc involving the father is really interesting, where Dexter goes from revering him to thinking of his father as someone who betrayed him, even if subconsciously he knows he's wrong. From the audience perspective, it's interesting to learn more and more of his flaws over time.
- The Ice Truck Killer being Dexter's brother was a pretty solid twist. As was the idea of him wanting Dexter to kill Debra. Better than the ending to Seven if nothing else. Still though, why is every serial killer master plan plot never quite as cool as they make it seem? Couldn't Rudy decorate some? Dexter's murder rooms are pretty interesting.
- Considering the amount of on-screen deaths, is it pretty obvious that this fictionalized version of Miami has a higher murder rate than Washington DC even?
- There's something about the Ice Truck Killer that makes me really hate him. Even before he dies, he has this annoyingly unwavering confidence.
- Am I the only member of the audience really pulling for the Dexter/Rita relationship to somehow work out? They're actually really right for each other for some reason.
- I think sort of the big unsolved question with Dexter is to what degree he doesn't feel human emotion. The scene where he interrogates the Cuban couple about why their marriage works is pretty interesting. He seems to really want to know, but is so unable to understand he feels it's irrelevant
There's a lot of other stuff, but I'm tired.
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it's right up there with Mad Men as my favorite drama on TV, all four seasons have been top notch (especially the last one, with John Lithgow). I suggest you watch the next three seasons ASAP :D
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We download it and wait until the summer to watch it when there is nothing on.
Dokes..is by far the best character....of the season you are watching.
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Season 1 is my favorite; it's basically perfection, as far as story-telling goes. S1 > S2 > S4 > S3
You'll really enjoy season 2. It's probably the most gripping of them.
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I'm not going to comment on your individual points, Reap, because I don't want to spoil anything for you.
Axeman's right, you need to watch the other seasons NAO.
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Agreed. Season 2 was amazing, and season 4 was just so good, right up to the final seconds of the last episode. Season 3 was. . . It was there.
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Agreed. Season 2 was amazing, and season 4 was just so good, right up to the final seconds of the last episode. Season 3 was. . . It was there.
I didn't think it was all that bad. Definitely my least favorite of the four seasons, but still solid (especially Jimmy Smits playing Miguel
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Wow. I thought Season 3 kicked serious ass. Miguel was amazing...he made everything so intense. Only Season 2 beats it.
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Wow. I thought Season 3 kicked serious ass. Miguel was amazing...he made everything so intense. Only Season 2 beats it.
Miguel was amazing, I guess some of the other stuff just didn't live up imo. I'd put season 4 ahead of it as well because as good as Jimmy Smits was, John Lithgow *killed it*.
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John Lithgow's performance basically raped every other 'main' bad guy/girl's in the series.
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Agreeing with the idea of watching rest of the series ASAP.
One of my favorite series on TV these days.
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I just finished blazing through series 1-3. Friends had told me how great it was and the premise sounded right up my alley. Unfortunately, I found it to be a case where the concept was great but the execution was merely "TV." Enjoyable, but it didn't exactly shake the foundations of my televised world. Oddly enough, I found something different to like in each season. The casting of Dexter was solid, but I found Jimmy Smits pitch perfect as his character in season 3. Damn, did he sell it.
I'd give 'em all a 7/10.
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Unfortunately, I found it to be a case where the concept was great but the execution was merely "TV."
I don't agree. Dexter is way more edgy and psychologically truthful than almost every other TV show I've seen. While I would say that it hasn't yet transcended the TV format like Battlestar Galactica did, it's good enough that I don't think you can say it's "merely" TV. This show proves how good TV can be if it's done well, which I greatly appreciate.
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I often find TV to be a better story telling format than movies. And while most TV is forgettable, my top 3 TV shows far surpass my top 3 movies, but this is all just opinion.
Dexter is probably my favorite show on TV atm. The ending of season 4 was absolutely brutal, and I can easily see season 5 being the peak of the series.
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Love the series with a passion. I had to soldier through the third season, but the fourth was great.
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Excellent show. Nothing else to say. Engaging characters, amazingly well done plot twists. I have no idea how they'll continue the series after 4, but I am very eagerly waiting.
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The police captain sounds like Robert Stack doing a bad Tom Brokaw impersonation.
Also, are we sure Rita thinks Dexter is an addict due to real evidence or her own personal demons. Dexter is obviously emotinally disturbed, but I'm not sure he acts like a drug addict.
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Unfortunately, I found it to be a case where the concept was great but the execution was merely "TV."
I don't agree. Dexter is way more edgy and psychologically truthful than almost every other TV show I've seen. While I would say that it hasn't yet transcended the TV format like Battlestar Galactica did, it's good enough that I don't think you can say it's "merely" TV. This show proves how good TV can be if it's done well, which I greatly appreciate.
Well I don't agree with your disagreement. Edgy? Not quite. Through most of the first season, I felt like I was watching a neutered version of American Psycho. The Patrick Bateman reference is even made (as his alias when ordering a certain drug of choice). As I said before, there were a lot of good ideas. Let's take an example . . . Dexter's foster father shaping him into the man he is today. Sounds interesting, but the flashbacks feel more like we're dealing with a caricature of a kid with violent tendencies, rather than the real thing. Given the subject matter, they should've went a darker and more subtle route. But it's a show, they want viewers and they're going to go the route that gives him mass appeal. The humor's a little too easy and the darkness of the character glossed over at times. I feel like the show's missing a serious pair of authentic balls.
Now, don't get me wrong, I like it, but for me this is what's holding it back. And I also seem to be in the minority as well. Take Season 3 for example. Seems to be the worst season so far, but I found the character of Miguel to be a fascinating character study, especially his relationship with Dexter.
And while I agree TV has a great advantage over movies in that it has the time really dig in and flesh out its story and characters, it falters in other areas. Because it's given so much time, it's hard to stay consistently good. TV doesn't have the budget of a movie, so things like action or special effects and the look aren't up to par. They've gotten better over the years, but they're not quite there yet. Still with that said, I'm definitely looking forward to sitting down and watching Season 4.
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Wow. I thought Season 3 kicked serious ass. Miguel was amazing...he made everything so intense. Only Season 2 beats it.
Miguel was amazing, I guess some of the other stuff just didn't live up imo. I'd put season 4 ahead of it as well because as good as Jimmy Smits was, John Lithgow *killed it*.
Jimmy Smits had probably my favorite line in all of television.
"I am the LAST person you want to FUCK with, because I will FUCK YOU BACK in ways you can't even IMAGINE!!" He's like foaming at the mouth as he's screaming it...meanwhile, I'm laughing hysterically while still realizing that, funny as it sounded, it's still incredibly badass.
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Unfortunately, I found it to be a case where the concept was great but the execution was merely "TV."
I don't agree. Dexter is way more edgy and psychologically truthful than almost every other TV show I've seen. While I would say that it hasn't yet transcended the TV format like Battlestar Galactica did, it's good enough that I don't think you can say it's "merely" TV. This show proves how good TV can be if it's done well, which I greatly appreciate.
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I think the shows light-heartedness and dark humor is what makes it so great.
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Proving I have no life, I finished Season 2.
Again, wow. SPOILERS AHEAD:
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- Paul died!!!
- Lundy is such a great character.
- Lila was mentally and emotionally gone in a way even Dexter isn't.
- It's 100% confirmed that Deb has serious daddy issues. You can't blame her though. Harry wasn't as devoted to her as he was to Dexter.
- We continue to find fun new wrinkles in Harry's past.
- It's kind of funny that, for all we're supposed to really get inside Dexter's head and understand how he thinks, his direct conversations with Doakes while in serial killer mode reveal that he's utterly insane, right or not.
- Poor Doakes. It's one thing if he tries to play ball with Dexter and looses. Right or wrong, actions have consequences. It's another to just get killed by Lila because she's unstable. As questionable a person as Doakes was, he got an awful hand of fate dealt to him.
- In maybe the season's best philosophical moment, we're left to really wonder if Dexter being alive is a good thing. He's there for Rita and the kids and his sister and Angel, but Doakes got screwed, Angel almost got screwed, Lila arguably went crazy because of him (although someone would have eventually done it), Paul kinda sorta died because of him, and LeGuerta acted like a human being for maybe the first time in the show because Doakes's death meant something to her.
And so, we're off into Season 3. By the way, for Battlestar fans, wasn't watching Crashdown in Season 1 of Dexter pretty fun? Sam Witwer is a pretty solid actor.
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Proving I have no life, I finished Season 2.
I would say it proves how great a show Dexter is, I finished the 4th season in two days because you just can't stop yourself from watching it. Season 2 had a lot of great suspense in it, I like it better than the 1st season but I still like the next two seasons better. Don't be so quick to call out Dexter either, the real crazies are on the way ::)
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And so, we're off into Season 3. By the way, for Battlestar fans, wasn't watching Crashdown in Season 1 of Dexter pretty fun? Sam Witwer is a pretty solid actor.
Ever since The Force Unleashed (yeah, I'm that nerd) I've been keeping track of the guy. He's really a solid little actor. This, BSG, The Mist as well . . . very cool.
SEASON 2 SPOILERS
I also felt the scene where Dexter headbutts Doakes was one of the most badass moments in TV history.
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And so, we're off into Season 3. By the way, for Battlestar fans, wasn't watching Crashdown in Season 1 of Dexter pretty fun? Sam Witwer is a pretty solid actor.
Ever since The Force Unleashed (yeah, I'm that nerd) I've been keeping track of the guy. He's really a solid little actor. This, BSG, The Mist as well . . . very cool.
SEASON 2 SPOILERS
I also felt the scene where Dexter headbutts Doakes was one of the most badass moments in TV history.
I OWN YOU *BONK*
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Tonight's the night, can't wait to get my homicidal murderer on.
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SO EXCITED
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OH GOD I TOTALLY FORGOT IT WAS STARTING SO SOON
Oh dear, who's going to clean up all this semen from what came from my person
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My girlfriend got me into it. Dexter is almost as good a serial-killer character as Patrick Bateman, but I really enjoy the show. I watched the first and second season, haven't seen the third. But finished the fourth.
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I remember watching season 4, the final episode when it came out. Holy fuck, my body wasn't ready.
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yeah, that was a depressing night.
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She was too bitchy anyway.
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She was too bitchy anyway.
Rita was the best them!
Although Lila... the things I would've done to her!
I've watch all the season this year and I absolutely love this show! Dexter is awesome, and the changes he has undertaken throughout the series are very well made.
Masuka = :metal (if you disagree you are wrong and you should feel bad, also "Science is one cold-hearted bitch, with a 14 inch strap on." and " I got a reputation to live up to. I mean if my show does not make people vomit and have an erection at the same time then I've let my audience down.")
Season 3 was my least favorite so far, I don't know it was just there.
John Lithgow's performance basically raped every other 'main' bad guy/girl's in the series.
Amen. Season 4 was the best season by far!
Will watch the encore of the season 5 premiere in 30 minutes so I'm staying away from spoilers.
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I watched the first episode of this tonight, I like it and will spend most of tomorrow watching more!
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Just watched the season premiere... going SPOILERS:
Before spoilers I've gotta say that the interactions between Dexter and Harry are my favorite part of every show.
While this was a good episode, this seems more like a season finale than a season premiere, it basically wraps up the whole "Rita is dead" thing (yes it is more than likely that this will be a major theme this season which will basically define his interactions with Astor and Cody, but still). I think this season should've started with Quinn in full investigation of Dexter.
Also, wasn't it weird that Dexter broke every rule in Harry's code and what Harry says to him is "that's the most human thing you've done". I hope they don't just completely forget what just happened here.
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The quality of the writing was a noticeable step down from last season. I'm starting to worry that Clyde Phillips leaving the show might be a bigger factor than I thought it was be.
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someone recommended it to me, but I tried to watch an episode and it just wasn't for me. getting ready to give greys anatomy a try now
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I love this show. I started watching in season 2 and was hooked.
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someone recommended it to me, but I tried to watch an episode and it just wasn't for me. getting ready to give greys anatomy a try now
If you enjoy Grey's Anatomy but not Dexter remember to turn in your man card. :P
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no doubt....got about 5 min into it and realized "don't think so" :lol
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Also, wasn't it weird that Dexter broke every rule in Harry's code and what Harry says to him is "that's the most human thing you've done".
That's the point. Everything about his rules was designed to keep him from being human, from acting on emotions and impulse.
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Also, wasn't it weird that Dexter broke every rule in Harry's code and what Harry says to him is "that's the most human thing you've done".
That's the point. Everything about his rules was designed to keep him from being human, from acting on emotions and impulse.
It also kept him safe and, apart from the second season, out of police radars. Which is why I hope the series writers don't forget what Dexter just did, I would like for them to expand on this.
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Brilliant show.
Was never sure why he needed to keep his lab a secret, though. The man could've been rich.
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I fucking LOVE Dexter. It's my favourite series of all time, it even beats House.
I'm a little in love with him.
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Agreed.
I miss Dokes.....in the books he's still alive I think though...
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Dokes was awesome.
'Surprise mothafucka!' @ 1.15: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrlCqJffEdY
:lol
Posted by Showtime themselves so I guess there's no copyright issue here.
p.s. season premiere was good. Not amazing, but I always find any Dexter episode entertaining, even if there's not that much going on.
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Ugh, I can't believe the new episode hasn't been uploaded anywhere yet. It's streaming on IMDb, but it says that it has been edited... Oh well.
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This season premiere didn't do terribly much for me. But the fact that it's back on has me excited enough :caffeine:
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I've only got up to season 1 but its already one of my favourites. The soundtrack in particular stands out for me. The Blood Theme (the one they play during the ending credits) is excellent.
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Agreed.
I miss Dokes.....in the books he's still alive I think though...
I hated Doakes. It was probably because he was always all over Dexter, and I'm a little defensive. :neverusethis:
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Agreed.
I miss Dokes.....in the books he's still alive I think though...
I hated Doakes. It was probably because he was always all over Dexter, and I'm a little defensive. :neverusethis:
I'm the same way. I hated him! Looks like quinn may be the new dokes?
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My wife liked him.
She's got a thing for big black men lately.
The dude who sold us our mazda was big and black...she was ready to pay double if he'd asked...she's usually a cold and calculated car shopper.
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I've always been indifferent towards Quinn, if he ends up dying at the end of this season I will not mind at all!
I miss Doakes, I wished he hadn't died in the second season.
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Brilliant show.
Was never sure why he needed to keep his lab a secret, though. The man could've been rich.
Don't worry Rob, I got it.
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I should not look in this thread anymore. I just started the show the other day and must avoid spoilers :laugh:
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I'm torn on Doakes dying. On one hand, his finding out about Dexter was inevitable. I guess you could have had him convicted as the Bay Harbor Butcher, but that would be boring. Killing Doakes was the only truthful and interesting way for the writers to deal with the character.
On the other hand, Doakes was maybe the funniest character on the show. it definitely got more serious/less entertaining when he left.
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Bump for Sunday night's episode. Holy crap he did Lumen.
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Doakes was my favorite supporting character besides Deb. What made him so great was that he was always on Dexter's case with those awesome lines, but, unfortunately, the nature of that relationship isn't really sustainable.
As far as this season, I think it started out pretty weak in comparison to the others, but the last three episodes have been amazing. Most fans don't seem to like Lumen; I do.
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I've really enjoyed this season so far. I'm really curious to see this stuff with Dexter, Quinn, and Liddy play out.
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I love this show, I feel like any day now Deb is going to find out what dexter really is. Especially with that investigator running around. This season is playing out to be realllly interesting
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I've really enjoyed this season so far. I'm really curious to see this stuff with Dexter, Quinn, and Liddy play out.
Liddy?
FAKE EDIT: Yes, Quinn's guy.
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Bump for Sunday night's episode. Holy crap he did Lumen.
Read this before I saw the episode, and I admit, my first thought was "Wait, he killed her?"
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Yeah, the season started out a tad slow, but has gotten insane. I can't wait for Sunday :caffeine:
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Started season 4, but I know what happens at the end :sadpanda:
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DEXTER SEASON FINALE TONIGHT!!!
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:dangerwillrobinson:
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Oh I wish that they end the season as they ended the teaser for this week's episode, Debra catching Dexter on the act!
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My guess is she'll catch Lumen, who'll take the fall.
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My guess is she'll catch Lumen, who'll take the fall.
That's the most likely scenario, but it would be such a great cliffhanger if it was Dexter.
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I would rage so hard.
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I would rage so hard.
But it would be a good rage.
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Aw shit, that was close.
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FUCK IT WAS SO GOOD
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Excellent season. IMHO, the best one since the first.
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I might even rate it above the first season
S3 < S2 < S4 < S1 < S5 IMHO
Cant wait for next season :caffeine:
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I NEED MOAR
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4 > 5 > 2 > 1 > 3 in my book. Pretty strong season, especially after its shaky start.
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4 > 5 > 2 > 1 > 3 in my book. Pretty strong season, especially after its shaky start.
What? Trinity was't that good IMO. And season 2 being better than the Icetruck Killer? C'mon!
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Are you kidding? I loved Trinity! He kept me glued to my TV more than any other villain.
And call me crazy, but I just wasn't wild about the Ice Truck Killer. It was still miles ahead of season 3, though.
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Trinity was easily the best.
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*Spoilers*
Loved this season, but I couldn't help but they created a bigger plot than they were actually able to accomplish in 12 episodes. The relationship between Chase and Emily went completely unexplained, and everything with Quinn and Liddy felt rather rushed. At the end of episode 10, Dexter was pretty much screwed, yet it took him less than a few minutes to remedy a lot of these situations. I wish the season could have had a few more episodes. That being said, the season was excellent, despite having a very "safe" ending compared to last season.
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Trinity was easily the best.
This. And season 3 has been the worst, IMO.
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I thought season 5 start out as bit choppy, but came together nicely (even if some of the stuff wrapped up too cleanly). I don't get some of the lack of love for season 3 either, Jimmy Smits did pretty well within the role of Miguel Prado
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Trinity was easily the best.
Trinity's character was amazing and easily the best villain of the show - but the season itself was plagued with minor and not-so-minor plot holes, and filler episodes it really dragged it down.
EDIT: Oh, and regarding S05 - I think the absence of Rita REALLY helped the show. After Season 1 she got extremely annoying.
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Yeah S3 is FAR behind any other season. It was just plain boring IMHO, especially the main plot.
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2 > 4 > 5 > 1 > 3
That being said, I have never found a single episode of Dexter to be boring.
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2 > 4 > 1 > 5 > 3 here. This season had some great moments but didn't completely fulfill it's potential, and compared to Trinity Jordan Chase was a pretty piss weak adversary as it turned out. The Dan The Dentist episode was my favourite for the year, and one of my favourites ever, absolutely classic ending to that episode.
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Two words: Autoerotic mummification.
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2 > 4 > 1 > 5 > 3 here. This season had some great moments but didn't completely fulfill it's potential, and compared to Trinity Jordan Chase was a pretty piss weak adversary as it turned out. The Dan The Dentist episode was my favourite for the year, and one of my favourites ever, absolutely classic ending to that episode.
I'd agree, that was the first time when I thought "Maybe this season won't be so bad after all..."
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Two words: Autoerotic mummification.
Masuka FTW!
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I think the latest season was a bit thin. So many plot holes.
Also heard that MCH and the chick that plays Deb are in the process of a divorce, I wonder if that will affect the show at all.
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On December 13, 2010, Hall and Carpenter released a statement saying that they had filed for divorce after having been separated "for some time."[16]
Assuming they were separated while filming, it didn't seem to affect anything.
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And I hope it doesn't affect anything in the future!
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And I hope it doesn't affect anything in the future!
Hasn't seemed to, so far.
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And I hope it doesn't affect anything in the future!
Hasn't seemed to, so far.
Fox would be better to look at.
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I've heard that the split happened because Michael C. Hall was getting a little friendly with Julia Styles
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Was that one of the ten things Carpenter hates about him?
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https://tv.ign.com/articles/114/1140763p1.html
Here's a story with a strong sense of deja vu. It was just a year ago (and one day!) that news broke that Dexter's longtime showunner/executive producer Clyde Phillips was leaving the series, on the heels of Season 4 ending. Now, the week Season 5 has concluded, Phillip's successor, Chip Johannessen, has made a quick exit from the series after a single season.
Deadline broke the news, revealing that Scott Buck has been named the new showrunner going into Season 6. Buck taking over is a different approach than when Phillips departed. In that case, Johannessen was completely new to Dexter, moving over to the series from 24.
Buck on the other hand is being promoted from within, having been with Dexter as a writer since Season 2. In those years, he's moved from co-executive producer to executive producer and Deadline says he has "great rapport with the show's writers," noting that he had served as number 2 to both Phillips and Johannessen - and that while Johannessen is well regarded, Buck "was ready to take the reins of the series."
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HOLY FUCK THIS SHOW IS GOOD.
I watched the first two episodes today, and I'm quite eager to continue.
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I just started the show last week, and I'm well into season 3, which is so far much better than 2. This is a really well done show!
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Just wait til you get to season 4. So awesome!
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I just started the show last week, and I'm well into season 3, which is so far much better than 2. This is a really well done show!
My opinion is the opposite, Season 2 is my fave and Season 3 is my least fave.
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*SPOILERS*
Well I guess I was just kind of angry at one of my favorite characters being done in by that Lila bitch. But in the end I agree 2 was the better of the two seasons.
And I finished season 4, which is my favorite so far, but the ending was... really sad! :'(
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I also would've loved for Doakes to make it out of season 2 alive.
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I watched the entire series over Christmas break and I'd say it's tied for my favorite show ever (with Curb Your Enthusiasm). Trinity is the best character evar.
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I've watched this show ever since I caught the first season on ITV here in the UK. It's amazing, probably among my favourite TV shows, definitely my favourite TV show that's still going since The Shield, The Wire, The Sopranos, Lost and possibly 24 are the only others I like better.
In terms of how good the seasons are:
Season 4
Season 2
Season 1
Season 3
Season 5
I thought Season 5 was by far the weakest season, and I couldnt imagine many people thinking otherwise when I saw it. The only few other people I know who watch it also thought so. It wasn't particularly bad or anything, just average.
The best season is a bit trickier though. Season 4 was very well done and had a very good conclusion, so I might put that above season 2. The thing about season 2 is it has the best storyline in Dexter - the Bay Harbour Butcher and Doakes storyline - and one of the worst things in Dexter, Lila. She's easily the most annoying of each season's guest star. So it's hard for my to justify saying season 2 is my favourite when it includes her storyline.
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Lila didn't annoy me as much as I just didn't get her. None of her actions ever made sense, and her presence was an irrelevant part of the show entirely until she burned Doakes, a part that made no sense at all to me and was not the way Doakes should have died. I find it hard getting past that, since it was a big part of Season 2, so I will say 4 as well, though I'm not done with 5.
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Season 5 was the weakest to me as well and I was pretty happy how Lila's character ended up.
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I've watched this show ever since I caught the first season on ITV here in the UK. It's amazing, probably among my favourite TV shows, definitely my favourite TV show that's still going since The Shield, The Wire, The Sopranos, Lost and possibly 24 are the only others I like better.
In terms of how good the seasons are:
Season 4
Season 2
Season 1
Season 3
Season 5
I thought Season 5 was by far the weakest season, and I couldnt imagine many people thinking otherwise when I saw it. The only few other people I know who watch it also thought so. It wasn't particularly bad or anything, just average.
The best season is a bit trickier though. Season 4 was very well done and had a very good conclusion, so I might put that above season 2. The thing about season 2 is it has the best storyline in Dexter - the Bay Harbour Butcher and Doakes storyline - and one of the worst things in Dexter, Lila. She's easily the most annoying of each season's guest star. So it's hard for my to justify saying season 2 is my favourite when it includes her storyline.
But season 2 had lots of, as my dad calls it, socially redeeming nudity, so there's that.
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Season 5 is only half way through in Australia, but being impatient I already know the ending. :smiley:
There have been seasons that are better than others but it is still a show you can't wait to watch the episode each week....even me and I cheated.
Apparently Rita is still under contract so it will be interesting to see what the writers do there...
Does anyone think Dexter will end up killing Quinn?
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Does anyone think Dexter will end up killing Quinn?
No way. Doakes was portrayed as an obsessive nothing-to-lose dude who really is just after Dexter, and if he hadn't died, he would've told everyone what he'd discovered about him. Quinn is more laid back, and the only reason he's after Dex is because he thought he saw him in that sketch. After not too long he already wanted to drop the investigation, mainly because of Deb, but also just because he thought it was none of his business.
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I really like the idea of the baby starting to show signs of aggression. Hopefully they will bring out that idea, I think that would be really cool.
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Ugh I hope not.
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I really like the idea of the baby starting to show signs of aggression. Hopefully they will bring out that idea, I think that would be really cool.
This
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I really like the idea of the baby starting to show signs of aggression. Hopefully they will bring out that idea, I think that would be really cool.
I have to say I hope that doesn't happen. Seems a bit typical. Besides, I don't see how it would make for such a good story - unless we fast forward five to ten years into the future then the baby won't be old enough to do anything significant enough to make a good story.
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Finally got through all of Season 5. In a lot of ways, it just felt like a big meh.
What happened to the Latino detective after she as promoted? She was being developed as a character and now she's in their department. What about the whole case they were trying to solve? Why were we made to care about these things just to be hand-waved away with no resolution? Okay so Deb got screwed and now she feels bad. And then she makes up with LaGuerta. Why do I care?
Julia Stiles got better and left? Why is this interesting? Honestly, I thought it would have been much more realistic if she had killed herself. But this is really the fundamental problem with the whole thing. Every time they brought up something major in the story, they hit the reset button. Angel and LaGuerta even literally say that's what they're doing. Quinn hunts Dexter? Eh, Dex does him a solid, Dexter kills Liddy, and so they're cool. Rita dies? Eh, his family likes him again, he has a cathartic moment with another attractive blonde chick, and now his life is more normal. He beats the crap out of that girl's dad? He just does exactly what Dexter says.
I don't mind that the season has a resolution, it's more the show's style. But after each season his life was different. This time it feels like as much an attempt as possible to undo the potential changes in his life. Why can't Quinn make the following basic connection: Liddy spies on Dexter. Liddy checked out cameras to spy on Dexter. Liddy told Quinn he wanted him to arrest Dexter. He mysteriously wasn't there in his van because he was murdered. It's more of a reason to look into Dexter than before.
Even worse, the whole thing is predicated on Liddy being stupid enough to not say "I have video recordings of Dexter and his girlfriend talking about killing people." And his plan to get the confession was just retarded. And what was his motivation? He wants his job back that badly? What? I smell a smell that resembles the feces of a male bovine.
The one thing I did like was Deb not arresting them. It actually does make sense. They used the Ice Truck Killer thing well to accomplish that. I enjoy when a series actually uses its own backstory. A lot of times, I feel like writers avoid referencing past events because it's hard to do that without the audience wondering why the characters don't realize their lives are really messed up. So props on that.
From the perspective of the show's behind-the-scenes production, I hate to sound lame, but I'm glad Chip Johannessen isn't the showrunner anymore. The early episodes felt so much like network television. Especially when someone described Dexter going to Masuka's tattoo parlor as "entering his world." That and the club, which felt like an excuse to show everyone being sexy.
The biggest problem with hitting the reset button is that the show can't go on forever. I can't think of any TV show with an ongoing plot line that's been good forever. And when you run out of ideas, you either start doing bad ones or recycling old plot lines.
With season five, they did Dexter trying to kill with someone else again, a detective in the department following Dexter again, and a woman with connection to the main villain who was somehow traumatized by him but loves him again. They're running out of things to do. Wouldn't the show be better off if it was pushing towards a conclusion and thus you didn't have to recycle ideas over and over to keep the pattern going? What if Deb found out about Dexter? What if he was caught? The show would be fundamentally different if those things happened, and the show would have to come up with fundamentally different stories to work to those moments.
There are obviously certain things I'd like shows to do. I would have preferred if Deb went behind the plastic sheet, or if the sheet just wasn't there. It would have been more interesting and less easy. But they didn't, and it was written well, and it had a point, so I can't complain too much. But for godssakes live up to your own premise. Rita dying was great because it made the show fundamentally different, and so they decided to spend a season undoing that? Quinn hunting down Dexter was great because he's a bit wiser about doing it and has more evidence than Doakes, and so he decides to bump uglies with Deb, leave it to an idiot cop, and then give up? What? Angel and LaGuerta's marraige doesn't work because he's honest and she's political, but they decide to make up and start over? What?
And finally, what if Jordan Chase had given Dexter a simple pat down after he captured him? When was the blonde chick's house cleaned up? I accept the existence of some plot hots (Dexter has never left a hair sample to be found, no one checks the history of Dexter's searches, no one can see him following them), but this season it got ridiculous.
All that said, Lumen was executed fairly well, and the season was generally tense and engaging. It wasn't a totally loss. But hopefully Scott Buck can make a better show next season.
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Finally got through all of Season 5. In a lot of ways, it just felt like a big meh.
Sums it up pretty nicely :lol
It was a bit like Season 3 that the whole thing felt like a bit of an aftermath season. Also, the season's main story spiralling out from the fallout from one of Dexter's kills and someone else helping him kill people is similar to Season 3. While I do think it's good to have storylines like that (rather than simple police investigating serial killer, Dexter finds him first and kills him), I think it's no coincidence these two seasons were the worst.
Season 5 more than 3 in my opinion... Miguel was just a stronger presence than Lumen and the way he teamed up with Dexter was much more believable and interesting - he was actually manipulative as well and it ended badly. With Lumen, it felt like they kind of glossed over the whole Dexter being a serial killer thing. They just teamed up and eventually became the best of friends because they had a common goal, and when they finished it Lumen was happy to just let him go on with his serial killing ways.
As for the Liddy / Quinn thing, yes it was a very convinient set of events that Liddy never handed in any of his evidence, shouted at Quinn rather than just suggest what he had, and managed to get himself killed in his terrible interrogation plan, all without telling anyone anything. It was full of contrived coincidences like that (like the plastic sheet between Dexter and Deborah... it was nice imagery but a bit heavy handed, and did anyone not know exactly what was going to happen when they saw it?).
But I don't know if I'd say the season reversed everything. And I thought it was actually OK in the way it dealt with Rita's death. And we don't really know how Quinn feels about Dexter - I think he does suspect Dexter but the thing that's holding him back is his relationship with Deborah. He's willing to look the other way on Liddy (for now, at least). That's the thing that's always separated Quinn from Doakes - he is actually just a bad cop. He only came to suspect Dexter because he got a grudge against him after Dexter saw him lifting money, he went after Dexter using his corrupt cop buddy, and then abandoned his suspicions when he got together with Deborah.
But the fact that he's much more incompetent and half assed than Doakes also makes him more of a threat in some ways - most notable, he's still there, gradually getting more suspicious of Dexter while doing his job, while Doakes is dead and no one thinks twice about his suspicons because he obsessively went after Dexter, and because of another very convinient coincidence at the end of Season 2.
So yeah, Season 5 was a very average season, but I'll wait to see where they go with the next one before criticisng the ending too much. I just hope Dexter ends fairly soon though - it's been good so far, but if it keeps going it will eventually jump the shark.
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I'm catching up now. I just watched season 2 and I have to say I really enjoyed it. The Doakes/Dexter interaction at the end was particularly good. Lila annoyed the fuck out of me though.
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I'm catching up now. I just watched season 2 and I have to say I really enjoyed it. The Doakes/Dexter interaction at the end was particularly good. Lila annoyed the fuck out of me though.
She was hot though.
I don't know if you guys have been keeping up with news for the upcoming season but some of the guest stars are: Colin Hanks, Mos Def and EDWARD JAMES FUCKING OLMOS! Production is set to start tomorrow on the new season.
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so excite.
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I actually really liked Lila's character up until the end when she just got kind of more annoying than anything. I thought she added a good element to that season.
I can't wait for the next season to start, but it's still so far away!
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In the teaser trailer, they didn't even mention Season 5.
I am excited for this season all ready! The cast seems great. I was never big on Julia Stiles. After seeing was Olmos' role is, I think this season may deal with religion.
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EDWARD JAMES FUCKING OLMOS
I came.
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EDWARD JAMES FUCKING OLMOS
(https://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r215/dimitrius21/1e219104.jpg)
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Has anyone heard when the next season will be starting up?
I spent the first two weeks of November watching seasons 1-4, and most of 5.
And I am now in Dexter withdrawals mode.
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I'm waiting for seasons 3 and 4 to be up on Netflix streaming. I may just have to buy them because I'm so desperate to keep watching.
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Has anyone heard when the next season will be starting up?
September, it's always around that time.
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Has anyone heard when the next season will be starting up?
September, it's always around that time.
ty ;D
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Just watched all of season 1 a couple of days ago, and all in one amazing go, I LOVE THIS SHOW. Midway through Season 2 now, echoing the dislike for Lila at the minute, I don't find her charismatic or interesting at all. I think I prefer Season 1 so far, but 2 is still great. I'm guessing the running theme throughout this one is actually just Dexter being hunted, rather than a new serial killer?
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I quite enjoyed Lila, if only for the gratuitous nudity. Season 2 was by far the best season of any show I've ever seen. Those last few episodes were especially brilliant. I'm picking up seasons 3 and 4 today.
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Watched 3 episodes last night of the most recent season...5?..or is it 6?
Anyhow....good stuff. That nanny gives me the creeps already....something's up with her.
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Goddam, Season 2 was good.
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Season has Dokes correct?
ahh..Dokes.
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Doakes is the best!
Shut the fuck up, weirdo
- Sgt. James Doakes
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Yeah, I actually wasn't a fan of the ending of the season. I hated Lila throughout though, so I guess that was a bonus.
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I hated Lila throughout though, so I guess that was a bonus.
Same. The ending was quite cathartic.
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ugh she was soooooo annoying. Why does she talk like that?! AHHHHHH
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Yeah, my favourites from the show are :
Dexter (obviously)
Deb
Doakes
Lundy
Trinity
Misuka
Rita
Jordan Chase
People I do not like from the show:
Lila
LaGuerta
Batista
LaGuerta
Miguel Prado
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You don't like Batista?!
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You don't like Batista?!
He's okay, but his accent/lisp combo grates on my nerves after a while...
And he's kinda wimpy.
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True, but he's the only really loveable character. And I can understand hating LaGuerta, but (bearing in mind I'm only at the beginning of season 3 right now) I've sort of come to understand/respect her. And Dexter is obviously the best antihero since Han Solo.
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LaGuerta and Batista just get worse and worse as the seasons progress
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I love Batista! I didn't mind LaGuerta, but they made me dislike her character in the last season.
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I wish they would get the season 6 promo out already. Around when did the seasons 4 and 5 promos get released? I can't remember.. :\
I don't have the highest hopes for season 6, since I was so disappointed with 5, but...it's Dexter. I don't think I could ever not look forward to it.
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my wife and I had a near violent argument.....when I claimed that LaGuerta was actually Tootie from Facts of Life.(or the same actress)
Clearly I was massively incorrect.
but after a few beers I really thought I was right.
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I wish they would get the season 6 promo out already. Around when did the seasons 4 and 5 promos get released? I can't remember.. :\
The season has been in production for just over a month! Take it easy! :lol
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I started watching Dexter a few days ago. I'm halfway through the final episode of season 1.... Pretty intense stuff.
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DOKES!!!!
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I started watching Dexter a few days ago. I'm halfway through the final episode of season 1.... Pretty intense stuff.
Hold on to your pants, it gets serious!
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DOKES!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx7fX0c5pMM
warning, may be NSFW (language)
also, potential SPOILERS (especially at the end!!!)
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MOTHAFUCKA
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lol get a crayon.
I own you!
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"Morgan, quit grinnin' like a psycho and do yo damn job!"
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Admiral Adama is going to be in season 6. :metal
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Doakes was almost poetic in his angry cursing :D
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Doakes was almost poetic in his angry cursing :D
Almost poetic?
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Doakes was almost poetic in his angry cursing :D
Almost poetic?
fine, he was a god damn artist.
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Season 6 premieres October 2nd and concludes December 18th! Found it on Twitter from a Dexter fan site.
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Season 6 premieres October 2nd and concludes December 18th! Found it on Twitter from a Dexter fan site.
awesome!
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Starts kind of late, however, I'm still pumped.
I like how in the promo's they completely skip season 5 when going through each season. They definately want to forget about Lumen. :lol Fine by me
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DOKES!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx7fX0c5pMM
warning, may be NSFW (language)
also, potential SPOILERS (especially at the end!!!)
"Hey! Fuck You!"
"Ok...."
Awesome.
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Anyone watch the season 6 premiere??
I am so pumped for this season. The religious elements are interesting and Colin Hanks and Edward James Olmos seem likes great guest stars.
The first episode was good. Let's hope the rest of the season is good too
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SPOILERS
I really liked it, but the shoootout thing at the end was kinda lame.
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SPOILERS
I really liked it, but the shoootout thing at the end was kinda lame.
I agree, and it was all a foil for:
SPOILERS
Ruining Quinn's proposal
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saw it a couple weeks ago, it was fabulous.
I like the new "creepy people" for this season.
Should be a good hunt.
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Very excited for this season. First episode was great.
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I really liked it, but the shoootout thing at the end was kinda lame.
It would've been awesome if it was the other Fuentes brother out for revenge.
Also, please Dexter writers, make EDJ say "so say we all"!!! I would love you until the end of times!!!
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The first episode of season six was better than anything in season 5. Good prospect.
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Wow! That episode was really good! Can't wait to see the main storyline unfold :D
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Good new episode. I didn't like the shootout scene either, but other things went very well and I really enjoyed Dexter's interactions in the reunion scenes.
The biggest downfall was that it very strongly reminded me of my biggest complaint with the show, especially as of recently; I really hate the supporting roles. There's not a single secondary character that I actually care for (let alone the ones that I strongly dislike and occasionally wish for a spot in Dexter's killing room; Angel, Quinn, LaGuerta, etc.) and they seem to be only getting worse. I'm pretty much at the point where I'm praying for as little involvement as possible from them.
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The biggest downfall was that it very strongly reminded me of my biggest complaint with the show, especially as of recently; I really hate the supporting roles. There's not a single secondary character that I actually care for (let alone the ones that I strongly dislike and occasionally wish for a spot in Dexter's killing room; Angel, Quinn, LaGuerta, etc.) and they seem to be only getting worse. I'm pretty much at the point where I'm praying for as little involvement as possible from them.
Thought the same exact thing! I do like Deb, but I don't like any of the other supporting characters at all.
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Good new episode. I didn't like the shootout scene either, but other things went very well and I really enjoyed Dexter's interactions in the reunion scenes.
The biggest downfall was that it very strongly reminded me of my biggest complaint with the show, especially as of recently; I really hate the supporting roles. There's not a single secondary character that I actually care for (let alone the ones that I strongly dislike and occasionally wish for a spot in Dexter's killing room; Angel, Quinn, LaGuerta, etc.) and they seem to be only getting worse. I'm pretty much at the point where I'm praying for as little involvement as possible from them.
Dude.
Masuka.
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Masuka, Deb and Doakes are/were the best.
The rest are just horrible
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Good new episode. I didn't like the shootout scene either, but other things went very well and I really enjoyed Dexter's interactions in the reunion scenes.
The biggest downfall was that it very strongly reminded me of my biggest complaint with the show, especially as of recently; I really hate the supporting roles. There's not a single secondary character that I actually care for (let alone the ones that I strongly dislike and occasionally wish for a spot in Dexter's killing room; Angel, Quinn, LaGuerta, etc.) and they seem to be only getting worse. I'm pretty much at the point where I'm praying for as little involvement as possible from them.
Dude.
Masuka.
Masuka is hardly ever important in the plot at all though. He's just there for comic relief.
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Thought the same exact thing! I do like Deb, but I don't like any of the other supporting characters at all.
The think about Deb is that I like her character well enough, but the actor who portrays her is very weak, and occasionally cringe-worthy.
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This season is staying strong. I really find it interesting. The 2nd episode was great as well, although not much happened. The horses in the next episode look really creepy.
I look forward to every episode
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"I don't know what hammer time is, or how it's different from regular time" :lol
Enjoying this season so far, and there were some great laughs during the premiere.
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Enjoying this season so far, and there were some great boobs during the premiere.
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Aaargh LaGuerta :tdwn :tdwn
Can't she just be deported or something
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This past week's episode was good, but a step back from the premiere.
Wasn't it just last season that Deb was demoted for a public shootout and now that same thing is getting her promoted?! I mean, Mathews is probably doing it to get back at LaGuerta, but come on! It doesn't make a lot of sense.
I'd really like the show to spend more time with EDJ and Colin Hanks and less with Miami Metro, except for Masuka and Brea Grant.
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This past week's episode was good, but a step back from the premiere.
Wasn't it just last season that Deb was demoted for a public shootout and now that same thing is getting her promoted?! I mean, Mathews is probably doing it to get back at LaGuerta, but come on! It doesn't make a lot of sense.
Yeah, but the shootouts were under completely different circumstances, and most importantly no one died (well, besides the guys he killed before she took him down) in this one.
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I know, but it was still like a WTF moment for me.
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Enjoying this season so far, and there were some great boobs during the premiere.
I'm kind of hoping the intern gets nude this season. Am I wrong for saying that?
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No sir you are not.
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No sir you are not.
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Enjoying this season so far, and there were some great boobs during the premiere.
I'm kind of hoping the intern gets nude this season. Am I wrong for saying that?
Only insomuch as saying that you "kind of hope" doesn't convey how much you should be hoping she gets nude
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I'm sure she will. It seems any attractive bit-part chick in this show is only there to gets her knockers out.
Not sure about this season so far, the whole thing with Deb getting promoted is a bit ridiculous, and not a lot happened in the last episode.
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I don't think Deb being promoted is ridiculous. Matthews is coming at this from two angles: He has a grudge against LaGuerta and he sees Deb as a new poster child for the department. That said, I think her being lieutenant is not going to go so well. My money is more drama between Matthews and LaGuerta coupled with Deb's struggle with her new responsibilities that will lead to her stepping down/getting axed, and Angel moving up.
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Thank you, writers, I was starting to think that EDJ's character was Tyler Durden.
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Did anyone else think it was totally uncharacteristic of Dexter to go after Travis with the intent to kill so quickly? I thought it was in his code to make sure he had more actual evidence than a few loose connections. (Not to mention he was already suspecting multiple killers) It's just been kind of bothering me for some reason.
Also, NOOOO Brother Sam. First supporting character I've really liked in this show for a long time and they just have him shot. :angry:
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Thank you, writers, I was starting to think that EDJ's character was Tyler Durden.
Actually I take this back, EDJ is looking more and more as a figment of Travis' imagination.
@CC: It was a bit uncharacteristic of him to do that, but so was when he killed that guy in the swamps last year (where Harry said "that's the most human thing you've ever done"). That whole sequence to me was just badly written. What? Dexter expects Travis to just drive him to Gellar right after he basically told him he was gonna kill Gellar?
Also, I hate that they shot Brother Sam because now this next episode is gonna be wasted on Dexter finding who did it and the major plot gets stalled and elongated.
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Thank you, writers, I was starting to think that EDJ's character was Tyler Durden.
Actually I take this back, EDJ is looking more and more as a figment of Travis' imagination.
@CC: It was a bit uncharacteristic of him to do that, but so was when he killed that guy in the swamps last year (where Harry said "that's the most human thing you've ever done"). That whole sequence to me was just badly written. What? Dexter expects Travis to just drive him to Gellar right after he basically told him he was gonna kill Gellar?
Also, I hate that they shot Brother Sam because now this next episode is gonna be wasted on Dexter finding who did it and the major plot gets stalled and elongated.
It throws some twists into the story which is awesome, btw. This season has been really good so far and I'm really excited to see where it takes the characters.
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It's not that I mind, I like the Brother Sam character, but I just wanna know if my theory on Gellar is right.
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Well, if you noticed at the restaurant with the waitress, she doesn't even acknowledge Gellar's presence and he doesn't even have anything to drink. I agree with D on this, I want to see if Gellar is just in Travis' head
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Yep, seems we have a Fight Club-esque thing going on here.
Everything seems to point in the direction of the Geller who is talking to Travis being a figment of his imagination. (In a similar way to how Dexter communicates with Harry in his head) Mostly the fact that we've never actually seen Geller do any of the killing himself, and how he's able to walk through a public place with his face all over the city and not receive any notice for it, and how his blogs apparently ended and he disappeared.
Also, (and I'm going to take this theory a bit further) perhaps Travis killed Geller. I started thinking this with the part where blood appeared on Geller's forehead... maybe a possible recollection of an actual event seeping into Travis's consciousness. Geller apparently had a thing for brunettes, maybe Travis killed him out of rage for messing around with his sister (who Geller seemed to not want Travis to see) and got severely fucked up from it and has been having delusions of his teacher ever since.
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I feel the idea that Travis killed Gellar is much more realistic than the idea that Gellar is just a figment of his imagination. All the guys in homicide are looking for Professor Gellar, a real person. Personally I think both theories are looking too far into things, and both guys are real and alive.
The scene a couple of episodes ago where Dexter was praying to the coffee machine was pretty awkward in my opinion. If Dexter starts believing in God by the end of this season I am done with this show. The reason I fell so in love with Dexter in the first place was that his character was so different to everything else on television, so cold and ruthless yet very believable, and whilst I appreciate the need for him to become more 'human' with each passing season I feel like the writers are turning him from an anti-hero into just a plain old good-guy in order that a wider audience can resonate with him.
imo, of course.
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Hmm. I can see both sides. Do you remember that Gellar tied up the waitress girl before Travis woke up though, and she seemed to be aware of Gellar there.
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Hmm. I can see both sides. Do you remember that Gellar tied up the waitress girl before Travis woke up though, and she seemed to be aware of Gellar there.
No she wasn't. Look at that scene again, she never even looks at Gellar's direction!
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The scene a couple of episodes ago where Dexter was praying to the coffee machine was pretty awkward in my opinion. If Dexter starts believing in God by the end of this season I am done with this show. The reason I fell so in love with Dexter in the first place was that his character was so different to everything else on television, so cold and ruthless yet very believable, and whilst I appreciate the need for him to become more 'human' with each passing season I feel like the writers are turning him from an anti-hero into just a plain old good-guy in order that a wider audience can resonate with him.
Thisthisthis.
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Yeah, I only ever saw her focus on Travis. And the fact that he was outside the nightclub and no one ever paid attention to him. Surely someone would have recognized him. I think scenes like that are here for a reason
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Ooooooooh plot twist coming up, Geller not being real. Can't wait :caffeine::caffeine::caffeine::caffeine::caffeine::caffeine:
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Also, I really don't like Batista's sister
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Yeah, I only ever saw her focus on Travis. And the fact that he was outside the nightclub and no one ever paid attention to him. Surely someone would have recognized him. I think scenes like that are here for a reason
Yeah, there's too much clues that make him not real. There's no plate setting while they were in the restaurant, the waitress doesn't even acknowledge another person, she doesn't look at him when she's tied up, no one recognizes him at the night club, the way he kinda "push" Travis' knee to get the "whore of Babylon". Oh, there's also the FUCKING WHITE HOT IRON ROD HE PUT TO HIS ARM AND HE DIDN'T EVEN SQUINT!
Though this could all be misdirection and the writers WANTS us to think he isn't real. I mean Travis says that Gellar is the one doing the killings and Dexter made a point that the cuts done to the 4 Horsemen guy were rough, not what they should be given Travis' job, yet if we go by Fight Club's "rules" of split personality, he wouldn't even realize that he is the one doing the killings.
Also, anyone else thinks it's inevitable for Deb to fuck the new detective?
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The neat cuts on the body from the Horsemen and Travis' neat personality
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The neat cuts on the body from the Horsemen and Travis' neat personality
Was it "neat"? I could've sworn Dexter says something on this last episode about some of the murders and Travis not quite adding up.
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I'll have to go back and see. I thought at the autopsy, he said the cuts were neat
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Yeah, thinking about that, it seems a little less likely. Dexter did draw the conclusion that there were two separate killers from the cutting style, and he is very rarely wrong about these things.
Possibly (though this sounds a little far-fetched) Travis really does get fully into this Geller persona, so much that it alters his performance. Or we have another assistant. (I'm suspecting Geller's hot student is going to be involved somehow)
Hmmm. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Oh, that could be true as well.
What do you guys think will become of Deb and Quinn by the end of the season?
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DAT ENDING!!!!
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Took a picture of this at work yesterday.
(https://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2445/20111106164205700.jpg)
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DAT ENDING!!!!
NEED NEXT EPISODE NOW!
AHHHHH
What the hell is that running in circles emotion? Because that is needed now.
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The scene a couple of episodes ago where Dexter was praying to the coffee machine was pretty awkward in my opinion. If Dexter starts believing in God by the end of this season I am done with this show. The reason I fell so in love with Dexter in the first place was that his character was so different to everything else on television, so cold and ruthless yet very believable, and whilst I appreciate the need for him to become more 'human' with each passing season I feel like the writers are turning him from an anti-hero into just a plain old good-guy in order that a wider audience can resonate with him.
Really?
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Hey look, it's GP entering a thread about TV/movie and declaring he has a better opinion than you.
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Eh, it really has nothing to do with my opinion of the show. There are just a lot of characters of the type he's describing, especially on cable TV.
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The scene where he drowned the guy was by far the best moment of the season so far. I think things are looking good for this season if we get to see more angry Dexter. I love it when he gets that way.
Side note: what the hell was wrong with the audio in this episode? This show has had minor problems with it before, but in this one Dexter's "thinking" lines sounded like they were recorded on an iphone.
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The scene where he drowned the guy was by far the best moment of the season so far. I think things are looking good for this season if we get to see more angry Dexter. I love it when he gets that way.
Side note: what the hell was wrong with the audio in this episode? This show has had minor problems with it before, but in this one Dexter's "thinking" lines sounded like they were recorded on an iphone.
That scene will probably define this season. I don't know if my memory is correct or not, but he hasn't killed anyone without his careful planning, right? I know Nick deserved to be killed by Dexter, but doing it at that instant will probably cause some MAJOR problems for him.
On your side note, the audio seemed fine when I watched it.
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That scene will probably define this season. I don't know if my memory is correct or not, but he hasn't killed anyone without his careful planning, right? I know Nick deserved to be killed by Dexter, but doing it at that instant will probably cause some MAJOR problems for him.
If my memory serves me right, there was a scene in season 5 where he killed a guy in a fight because he insulted Rita, or something along those lines. (I remember his imaginary father saying "that was the most human thing you've ever done, Dexter") Maybe not the first time it's happened, but it's definitely a rare occurrence for him to lose his cool and act on impulse.
Also, for the audio, it's only in the parts when he's thinking to himself close to the beginning. I'M NOT CRAZY I SWEAR.
ALSO, something is definitely off with this new intern and his desire to learn more about Dexter. Maybe a new killer in the making, admiring Dexter for more than his forensic work?
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Just a random note, I forgot that Michael C Hall and Jennifer Carpenter divorced. They do a good job keeping it together on camera, I know a few shows that would have ended had something like this happened
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Dexter indeed broke Harry's code in season 5.
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Just a random note, I forgot that Michael C Hall and Jennifer Carpenter divorced. They do a good job keeping it together on camera, I know a few shows that would have ended had something like this happened
Apparently they know how to keep the personal and professional lives very much separate.
That scene will probably define this season. I don't know if my memory is correct or not, but he hasn't killed anyone without his careful planning, right? I know Nick deserved to be killed by Dexter, but doing it at that instant will probably cause some MAJOR problems for him.
If my memory serves me right, there was a scene in season 5 where he killed a guy in a fight because he insulted Rita, or something along those lines. (I remember his imaginary father saying "that was the most human thing you've ever done, Dexter") Maybe not the first time it's happened, but it's definitely a rare occurrence for him to lose his cool and act on impulse.
Also, for the audio, it's only in the parts when he's thinking to himself close to the beginning. I'M NOT CRAZY I SWEAR.
ALSO, something is definitely off with this new intern and his desire to learn more about Dexter. Maybe a new killer in the making, admiring Dexter for more than his forensic work?
Rita died at the end of season 4, so I'm really not understanding what you meant. Can you clarify?
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It's not that a guy comments about Rita, but since the season 5 premiere takes place right after season 4 ended, Dexter is feeling guilty over Rita's death and he's over on the swamps and there's this guy making comments (don't remember what exactly, but I know they weren't about Rita) and he just snaps and beats him to death.
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It's not that a guy comments about Rita, but since the season 5 premiere takes place right after season 4 ended, Dexter is feeling guilty over Rita's death and he's over on the swamps and there's this guy making comments (don't remember what exactly, but I know they weren't about Rita) and he just snaps and beats him to death.
I think I need to re-watch this episode. I'm not sure if I remember it, if at all.
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I'm very sure it wasn't a guy making comments about Rita. I know it happened in a boat shed and the guy was just obnoxious and annoying and Dexter's inner monologue was all about how guilty he felt for Rita's death.
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I'm very sure it wasn't a guy making comments about Rita. I know it happened in a boat shed and the guy was just obnoxious and annoying and Dexter's inner monologue was all about how guilty he felt for Rita's death.
Yep, I definitely remember this now. The boat shed gave it away.
The way the latest finished after it showed Dexter's brothers make me want to know what happens next even more. Plus Travis let the women go instead of doing what Gellar said (if he even exists). God, this season is shaping up to be VERY interesting. :corn
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Oh my God what a great episode. I can't ask for much more.
Brian's back, Trinity is still haunting Dexter, Travis telling Gellar off. I can't wait.
Also, I really like Mike Anderson. The flamingo thing was hilarious. I hope he stays on for awhile
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I'm very sure it wasn't a guy making comments about Rita. I know it happened in a boat shed and the guy was just obnoxious and annoying and Dexter's inner monologue was all about how guilty he felt for Rita's death.
I'm 99% sure it was. Dexter said something about his wife being dead, and the guy said something about how she can suck his cock or something.
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Yeah it was in the toilets of a boat shed. Dexter beats him to death with an anchor. I always wondered about that scene, as he left without cleaning up, and somebody would have discovered the body eventually.
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Yeah it was in the toilets of a boat shed. Dexter beats him to death with an anchor. I always wondered about that scene, as he left without cleaning up, and somebody would have discovered the body eventually.
That disappointed me about last season. Not only did he break Harry's code but he didn't cleaned up and there was no repercussion at all??
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Yeah it was in the toilets of a boat shed. Dexter beats him to death with an anchor. I always wondered about that scene, as he left without cleaning up, and somebody would have discovered the body eventually.
That disappointed me about last season. Not only did he break Harry's code but he didn't cleaned up and there was no repercussion at all??
Hopefully the latest episode's 'breaking-code' scene will have more developments that that particular scene at the beginning of season 5. This season has been great so far, so there is no doubt in my mind that they will come back to that scene sometime in the next few episodes or so.
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"This is my brother, Travis. He is a wonderful painter."
The paintings back at the church. Travis is doing them. I don't think they've mentioned Gellar as a painter. I truly still believe that Gellar has been dead. He's been in public far too much, someone would have recognized him.
And now with the ghost of Brian with Dexter and (if it is true) the ghost of Gellar with Travis, you have two demons that will influence those that they follow. You got to get to the darkest point to let the light in.
I'm loving this season, there's so much that you can speculate on. The season feels interactive to and it's something I can hold multiple guesses as to what comes next
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I'm so glad it's Thursday already. I can't wait for the next episode on Sunday.
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Man, Dexter completely went off the deep end in that episode.
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Man, Dexter completely went off the deep end in that episode.
Yea, but everything looks like it's back to normal.
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I kind of wish the show would take some of these character developments it flirts with (a darker and more aggressive Dexter in this one) and actually run with them. Bringing back Brian in his head had loads of potential, but since they decided to simply put an end to it in this episode it just seems like a brief little gimmick to fill up the season. Also, interesting things are happening regarding Gellar. Either he's actually real and a large percent of the fanbase has been completely off the mark, or they're just trying to mask it a little more.
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I kind of wish the show would take some of these character developments it flirts with (a darker and more aggressive Dexter in this one) and actually run with them. Bringing back Brian in his head had loads of potential, but since they decided to simply put an end to it in this episode it just seems like a brief little gimmick to fill up the season. Also, interesting things are happening regarding Gellar. Either he's actually real and a large percent of the fanbase has been completely off the mark, or they're just trying to mask it a little more.
If he's real, they're making damn sure everyone thinks he's not! But if they want to believe that he is real, they need to drop some subtle hints that he is! So far we got nothing.
I loved this episode (even though it was another of those "filler" episodes to extend the season), and I agree about what you said Seth. I wish they would've run with that more, and I guess they could, with all the light/dark that this season has gone about I guess they could bring Brian back (being his dark side to Harry's light side), but it's highly unlikely they do.
At any rate, next week we should be back to DDK for the rest of the season. And who else thinks Travis' sister will end up being "the whore"? If they wanna show the audience that Gellar is real, I can't think of a better way.
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At this point I have no idea about Gellar. Even if they do show him doing stuff it doesn't mean anything either, because Brian was doing all sorts of things through the episode (eating, throwing the bags in the ocean, grabbing the pitchfork, etc).
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At this point I have no idea about Gellar. Even if they do show him doing stuff it doesn't mean anything either, because Brian was doing all sorts of things through the episode (eating, throwing the bags in the ocean, grabbing the pitchfork, etc).
At least with the pitchfork thing they showed Dexter was the real one holding it.
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At this point I have no idea about Gellar. Even if they do show him doing stuff it doesn't mean anything either, because Brian was doing all sorts of things through the episode (eating, throwing the bags in the ocean, grabbing the pitchfork, etc).
I was thinking more of how the girl who Travis let go specifically remembered two people, one older and one younger, holding her captive.
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Oh yeah, I definitely noticed that as well, totally forgot about it until now.
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She did say something about hearing the younger guy talk and call out a "professor", but I don't remember she ever said that she heard another voice apart from Travis'.
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No, because she said she remembered The Professor calling her "The Whore". Not to mention that she said the two of them forcefed her the blood, once holding her neck back with his knee and the other pouring.
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I do remember that part about the blood.
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I think the Tyler Durden theory can still hold up. One guy can do both voices... and one person could possibly force her to drink it. We still haven't really seen Geller do anything or anyone else acknowledge his existence.
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I think the Tyler Durden theory can still hold up. One guy can do both voices... and one person could possibly force her to drink it. We still haven't really seen Geller do anything or anyone else acknowledge his existence.
I agree. The show hasn't convinced me otherwise as of yet. There hasn't been any 'hard' evidence to disprove this theory as of right now.
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Gellar was a university prof, wasn't he..? That would mean that he exists. Or did.
Maybe Travis was his student and took the prof's message to heart, killed him and is living in a fantasy world.
Or maybe Gellar is still alive, and behind all this.
So is Detective Anderson the new Doakes?
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I for one never thought that Geller was anything but real. But now that you mention it, it would be kinda cool if Geller was Travis' Dark Passenger.
Oh and if anyone is going to be the new Doaks, i think it will be Deb that gets suspicious of Dexter next, what with the pen from the motel and all.
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Last week's episode very much convinced me that Gellar is real. And I with several episodes left in the season, there is some serious room for some ridiculous twists in the storyline.
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Is anyone else losing faith in this season more and more?
There have definitely been some good things happening, but the writing just seems really sloppy to me as of now. There are too many subplots that they are trying to open, and none of them really seem to be going anywhere interesting, as well as plenty of supporting characters for us to not give fucks about. Also, I can't imagine a whole lot coming out of Dexter chasing Travis's imaginary friend; the gimmick has been going on for too long already. Unless Geller is real, in which case they baited us towards a dead end just to be dicks. The DDK villain(s?) aren't really anything interesting by themselves, either. So far, they've just been shallow "god-told-me-to" kind of people, and the way that they're trying to portray Travis as the good guy who's just mixed up really isn't believable at all. I'm hoping they'll work on that more, but considering the nature in which they've delved into his character so far the chances seem slim. The religious themes could really be done right, but the show's only touched on them in the most pedestrian kind of ways. ALSO, I think an element that has really done well for Dexter in the past is the drawn out cat-and-mouse plot style that worked so well on season 4 and season 2, respectively, among others. Here, he's been nearly completely disconnected from the DDK plot until just this last episode, and it's lost a lot of its potential thrill for that reason. There's still time for things to pick up, but as of now I'm just not as into it as I'd wish to be.
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I'm really not losing interest at all and I think they're doing very well with the season so far. I don't really have any complaints.
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Damn, that new episode was great! Great cliffhanger, too. Can't wait to see how the remaining 25% of the season goes with a huge twist so early in the season (compared to the others).
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Saw this happening a mile away. I wish they focused on Dexter like they did in season one. He needs to do more kills. I'll post more when I'm not T work
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I miss the days when Dexter wasn't an action hero type character. I feel like they've been pushing him in that direction all season. He's been completely reckless and sometimes downright stupid where he used to be clever and planning. It's like we're supposed to be getting the idea that the guy's invincible now.
Also, in other news, Quinn and Batista are still struggling tirelessly to out-douche each other. I really hope this whole conflict is leading to the exit of at least one of them.
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Yeah, there's been a lot of backlash against this season of Dexter.
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Damn, that new episode was great! Great cliffhanger, too.
How is this a great cliffhanger? It was so painfully obvious!!
Well, I guess we were right in saying this was all a Tyler Durden deal. Now, let's see if the writers save this season that started with so much promise and has become worst and worst.
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i hate this new season
IN TONIGHT'S EPISODE, DEXTER STRUGGLES TO DEAL W/ THE QUESTION OF RELIGION AND HOW TO TREAT HIS FRIENDS
TUNE IN NEXT WEEK WHEN DEXTER GETS HIS FIRST PERIOD
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I think this season is very good. It shows that Dexter is dealing with more complex issues than in the past and that's mostly because of his friendship with Brother Sam. He is struggling with how he can become a better person and father for Harrison. I don't understand what's so HORRIBLY HORRENDOUSLY bad about this season. I wouldn't want to see the same storyline in every Dexter season. I'm glad that they're exploring different situations and emotions and how they affect Dexter.
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He is struggling with how he can become a better person and father for Harrison.
Not the first season he has struggle with this.
The thing is, I feel like the writers are doing a half-ass job of really exploring these issues! Take when Brian came back, they could've make something awesome out of it, but no they just wrapped it up in its own self-contained episode.
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He is struggling with how he can become a better person and father for Harrison.
Not the first season he has struggle with this.
The thing is, I feel like the writers are doing a half-ass job of really exploring these issues! Take when Brian came back, they could've make something awesome out of it, but no they just wrapped it up in its own self-contained episode.
You do got a point about Brian. They could have really made that interesting. And this is the first season that they have really gone into Dexter's feelings regarding Harrison and how he's trying to be a better father. The other seasons in which the topic has been somewhat explored is about the same as Brian's participation in this season. Its been very minimal.
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Yeah.
I'm gonna have to agree with the consensus that this season is pretty awful. The way they skirted around Dexter meeting Gellar this past episode was so ridiculous. I mean, Dexter closing his eyes at the exact moment that Gellar 'appears' when he's on the way to kill the lecturer? Please.
I said it before, but what I always liked about Dexter was the gritty reality of the characters. Of course there are some who are larger than life and exaggerated, but they were always grounded is reality. Having a character play as important a part as Gellar and then say that he's just an illusion is an overplayed cop-out, in my opinion. I could deal with Harry, who I always viewed as more of an omniscient narrator to Dexter, because he's a sort of guardian angel figure rather than someone having a physical effect on Dexter's life. I didn't really like the reappearance of Brian, because Dexter felt his presence so keenly. If we remember that Brian wasn't really there, then Dexter just appears to be batshit crazy, when he's always seemed so sane and focused before.
Not sure how much sense that makes. I think I'm feeling the change in style so strongly because the early days of Dexter, when he was just a man 'wearing a mask,' really struck a chord with me, and his struggles to maintain that mask were relatable. This season is not relatable to anybody.
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We sure made some good guesses, didn't we?
Anyone have any ideas as to what will happen with the whole arc with Louis?
He seems very intelligent, low-profile, extremely interested in Dexter and secretly bought the Ice Truck Killer Prostitute Hand (which he lied to Masuka about, and added to his "collection")
Maybe he's a freak? Or maybe he's a new killer?
edit: He's also insanely neat, and has rarely let anyone into his home ("I don't let a lot of people in here")
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Hopefully he and Brea Grant are in cahoots, because it would be a shame to not see her again. :(
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We sure made some good guesses, didn't we?
Anyone have any ideas as to what will happen with the whole arc with Louis?
He seems very intelligent, low-profile, extremely interested in Dexter and secretly bought the Ice Truck Killer Prostitute Hand (which he lied to Masuka about, and added to his "collection")
Maybe he's a freak? Or maybe he's a new killer?
edit: He's also insanely neat, and has rarely let anyone into his home ("I don't let a lot of people in here")
Yeah, it's definitely possible that he could be a killer who admires Dexter's work. Or maybe even sees him as a threat.
Did anyone else catch when he told Dexter to use a new search engine? That was a big red flag for me. It seems likely that it was a search engine he created and recommended to Dexter to monitor what he searches. If so, he probably already knows a hell of a lot. His motivations for hooking up with Batista's sister could be related as well. That could grant him access to Dexter's apartment easily and the secrets within.
I think Louis shows more promise than the shallow DDK plot ever has throughout the series, so I'd love for them to develop him more. We might not see what will come of it until the next season, of course, and I'd kind of prefer it that way anyways.
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Yeah, it's definitely possible that he could be a killer who admires Dexter's work. Or maybe even sees him as a threat.
Did anyone else catch when he told Dexter to use a new search engine? That was a big red flag for me. It seems likely that it was a search engine he created and recommended to Dexter to monitor what he searches. If so, he probably already knows a hell of a lot. His motivations for hooking up with Batista's sister could be related as well. That could grant him access to Dexter's apartment easily and the secrets within.
I think Louis shows more promise than the shallow DDK plot ever has throughout the series, so I'd love for them to develop him more. We might not see what will come of it until the next season, of course, and I'd kind of prefer it that way anyways.
This is precisely what I have been thinking.
Hopefully he and Brea Grant are in cahoots, because it would be a shame to not see her again. :(
This is precisely what I have been thinking.
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Wouldn't it be awesome for Louis to turned out to be a killer and be next season's "big bad" and they writers are setting up already?
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It would.
I think it would be equally as cool if the DDK killer is actually just a minor plot as well, and the whole Louis thing takes over the last episodes. I mean, there are 3 left until the season is over, and the DDK thing seems to be drawing to a close.
But it would be kinda lame if they go through a whole Louis arc in 2.5 episodes.
so yeah, scratch that, it wouldn't be nearly as cool.
hopefully brea grant and louis are killers/partners, and have a master plan to study and take out Dexter. Added bonus that along the way, Jamie get's offed and Batista resigns and leaves the show :caffeine:
EVEN better would be if LaGuerta and Captain Dickface get caught and fired, and also leave the show
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Fuck, getting rid of LaGuerta would do a hell of a lot to reboot my excitement for this show. I'm also hoping that Quinn is on his way out. He's always been a self-destructive jackass, but this season he's really pushing it.
Just thinking about this has made me realized how many supporting characters just hang around in this show and go absolutely nowhere. I'll be pretty annoyed if this whole Batista/Quinn relationship and the Mathews/Laguerta thing are just allowed to simmer down and are eventually forgotten about.
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I've been hoping they kill Quinn since he first appeared on the show.
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I've never really cared for LaGuerta, but I understood her role in the show. Until this season. I'm hoping they're using this scandal as a way to move her and Matthews off the show.
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LaGuerta is hands down the worst part of the show, imo.
Since episode one.
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I hope she does die this season. Or at least get fired for trying to help cover up this hooker murder
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I hope she does die this season. Or at least get fired for trying to help cover up this hooker murder
How about Dexter kills her. Wouldn't that be something? :corn
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How about Dexter kills her. Wouldn't that be something? :corn
That would be. Especially because she likes Dexter
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LaGuerta is hands down the worst part of the show, imo.
Since episode one.
Naw, that was Rita. Thank goodness she's gone now.
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:facepalm:
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Why does this warrant a facepalm? To me, she was the absolutely most annoying character in the entire show. I also can't stand Julie Benz.
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I find her attractive. Moreso than LaGuerta
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I never found neither of them attractive, but that's beside the poin ;)
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I loved Rita. Mainly because she looked almost exactly like my ex who I may or may not still have feelings for...
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Why does this warrant a facepalm? To me, she was the absolutely most annoying character in the entire show. I also can't stand Julie Benz.
She was alright for the first two(ish) seasons. After that, Dexter's relationship with her began to get really stale and they kind of used her to repeat the same themes until they were completely worn out. Killing her and moving the kids away was actually a good move, I think. That relationship had run its course.
I have no real problem with the character/actor though. She fit well enough.
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This has been the weakest season so far, but I haven't seen tonight's episode yet... hoping that will change my opinion.
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A review I saw called it the worst episode of Dexter ever, so I wouldn't get your hopes up.
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Some thoughts on the previews for the season finale: hell, if nobody's gonna notice that Dexter has an uncanny ability to attracct serial killers SPOILERS (Icetruck turns out to be his brother, Trinity kills his wife and now Dexter face painted by Travis on a freaking wall + the shit with Harisson and Travis that we're going to see next) /SPOILERS and deduce that there just might be something off with Dexter, I'm going to lose my faith in the show.
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wtf deb ಠ_ಠ
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wtf deb ಠ_ಠ
lol
that'd be awkward, wouldn't it?
I mean, considering that they are divorced and all
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This season's had its ups and downs, but for me Dexter is like House. After a phenomenal first season or two both shows have settled into a pretty well established formula that keep them from approaching the best shows on television right now. Both shows have had their moments since, particularly in Season 4 (most of it for Dexter, and the two part finale for House, which is still some of the best TV I've ever watched), but I largely tune in because I like the characters and the formulas.
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^ I agree
my favourite TV show is Castle, for God's sake. It's the same thing over and over again, but I love the characters!
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The last episode of Dexter was a let down, but they can still finish the season strong. This season is only behind seasons 1, 2, and 4 right now (so it's very middle of the pack). I still very much enjoy this show, and it's probably my favorite on TV right now.
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It was renewed for another two years so, we'll see what they can do next
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It was renewed for another two years so, we'll see what they can do next
Yep, can't wait for season 7 and 8. I hope this series makes it to 10. Just a good number to make it to before closing the series. :P
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The last episode was so horrible.
*spoilers*
Like, seriously? DDK gets a hold of Dexter and just decides to put him in a boat with gasoline around it and then throws a match? And oh wow that was such a major shocker when Dexter gets dizzy and passes out when he is about to go in for the kill. Isn't this at least the second time this has happened? Wouldn't Dexter be a little smarter about shit like this now? At least wait until the dizzy spell passed before leaving your fucking hiding spot and trying to ambush him.
And the whole Deb/Dexter thing... bleh. Not impressed with this season at all. The whole season has been a let down, especially after the epicness that was the last season of Breaking Bad. I guess they have one more chance this season to change my mind, but this is easily the worst season of Dexter yet. I'm really hoping they kill off a bunch of people next episode so there is actually something noteworthy from this season.
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^^ I agree with pretty much everything written above. Except the statement, that this is the worst season - season 3 is the worst for me, by far.
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That was on OMG ending to the seaon finale...I was hoping to see that happen sonner or later.
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Had a feeling that was coming... looking forward to where they take it next season.
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This makes everything so much more interesting. That was probably my favorite finale out of all seasons. The first 40 minutes was less eventful than I expected, but that ending delivered. :corn
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Cliffhangers such as that should be illegal.
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This season's had its ups and downs, but for me Dexter is like House. After a phenomenal first season or two both shows have settled into a pretty well established formula that keep them from approaching the best shows on television right now. Both shows have had their moments since, particularly in Season 4 (most of it for Dexter, and the two part finale for House, which is still some of the best TV I've ever watched), but I largely tune in because I like the characters and the formulas.
That finale for House was the Amber's Heart/Wilson's Head ones right? Fantastic, fantastic television those were!
And, the last episode was pretty much standard until that cliffhanger. They finally did it! :tup Good on ya writers!
But anyway, I hope the Lewis mailing the hand thing has some significance on next season and the writers don't just sweep it under the rug like they did with the club shootout from season 5.
Though overall this season was lackluster and a big let down after the way it began. I mean they had EDJ and his talent was pretty much wasted! He would've made a very much more awesome bad guy than Colin Hanks. But this cliffhanger blows the future of the series wide-open.
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That was a pretty terrible episode, however, huzzah for the ending.
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This season's had its ups and downs, but for me Dexter is like House. After a phenomenal first season or two both shows have settled into a pretty well established formula that keep them from approaching the best shows on television right now. Both shows have had their moments since, particularly in Season 4 (most of it for Dexter, and the two part finale for House, which is still some of the best TV I've ever watched), but I largely tune in because I like the characters and the formulas.
That finale for House was the Amber's Heart/Wilson's Head ones right? Fantastic, fantastic television those were!
Yup, one of the few times, if not the only time I've ever teared up watching a TV show.
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https://www.avclub.com/articles/dexter-showrunner-not-sure-why-you-have-such-a-pro,66837/
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https://www.avclub.com/articles/dexter-showrunner-not-sure-why-you-have-such-a-pro,66837/
Thanks for the link. Very informative! :corn
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Well, the show returns on September 30th and they announced one of the new characters in a story arc. Ray Stevenson who will play a Russian crime syndicate member. Another article was that there is rumor of yet another love interest. Supposedly there is a new character named Hannah who has the possibility of staying in the show until the end in 2014.
https://insidetv.ew.com/2012/04/24/ray-stevenson-dexter/ (https://insidetv.ew.com/2012/04/24/ray-stevenson-dexter/)
https://cartermatt.com/14914/dexter-season-7-scoop-reports-of-new-spoiler-hit-web/ (https://cartermatt.com/14914/dexter-season-7-scoop-reports-of-new-spoiler-hit-web/)
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Awesome, can't wait. I know most think the quality fell of a cliff after the first couple seasons, but I still greatly enjoy it!
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Well, let's hope the show becomes good again... last 2 season have been frustratingly bad!
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I just want to know how the cliffhanger of last season is dealt with!
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I just want to know how the cliffhanger of last season is dealt with!
Yes, I felt as if nothing really important happened the entire season, and it was only meant to be a buildup to that inevitable climax.
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Just watched the final episode of season 6. Holy shit!
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yup......what...the.......FUCK!!!!
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That cliffhanger was probably the best thing about the whole season.
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That cliffhanger was probably the best thing about the whole season.
That's a fair conclusion.
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Such a great episode! I'm fucking pumped for the season.
SPOILER:
Anyone else a little sad that Mike died?
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Eh, it was alright.
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I thought they did well with the episode considering the end of the last season. They definitely followed that cliffhanger up with a winner in this premiere. Can't wait until next week's episode. :corn
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I wont get a chance to watch Dexter until tonight. If this episode doesn't feel like it's going to deliver, I give up on the show entirely.
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Really excited about this show for the first time in a long time. I worry about the quality of the Russian story arc to come, though...
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Yeah, they could really make that cheesy and not very good at all.
The season preview at the end was pretty interesting. The guy running with the horn mask on seemed interesting.
Any one have views on Mike?
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My views on Mike: once I saw him appearing on season 5 of SoA, I knew he was done in Dexter.
Alright episode, I guess. I worry for the Russian story, though, and I don't know where they're going with the Lois (or whatever his name is) thing. To me the whole season will hinge on Deb's and Dexter's interactions though.
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The problem with Deb finding out he was a serial killer is a serious short term problem for him. It will probably dominate the next few episodes as the primary issue, at least until the Russian story arc takes over (I think it will be this season's major problem). The thing that has me scratching my head is what they're to do with Masuka's former lab intern. He is really setting a big conflict up with Dexter. I have a feeling this will carry into the final season for some reason.
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The problem with Deb finding out he was a serial killer is a serious short term problem for him.
...no. This is the writers setting up the endgame for the series.
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The problem with Deb finding out he was a serial killer is a serious short term problem for him.
...no. This is the writers setting up the endgame for the series.
In the last two minutes of the show, Dexter showed up to his apartment late, which was torn apart by Deb. His kill tools were sitting on the table and she asked him if he killed those people and he said "Yes." That seemed pretty clear cut to me.
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Yes, I say no to this being a "short term problem".
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Yes, I say no to this being a "short term problem".
Well, I misunderstood your point, so my bad. Although, I do think it will be a short term problem as well. Dexter has to worry about Deb breaking down and turning him in or doing something that could affect his freedom. So, it is also a short term problem because its possible Deb could have a breakdown at any time.
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Just watched the episode...
Don't have much to add that wasn't already said. I enjoyed the episode quite a bit. Hopefully this season is a big step up in quality from the last couple. However, I do worry about the Ukranian Mobster plot. Anyways, it's about time she found out.
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Another pretty good episode. I really hate Louis though, but the story arc could be pretty entertaining. I also had a confidence boost in the Russian story arc--it could be pretty good. Looks like Quinn is gonna get screwed again
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Yea, everything is looking up so far in this season. I'm really, really, really interested in the Louis arc that they have going on.
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I really don't like Louis.
That's all I have to say about this season so far.
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Deb and Dex living together creates one major logic chasm... who's caring for Harrison? Is Jaime his "parent" now? That part made no sense.
And, of course, Dex would have a change of heart when it came time to kill Louis. Way to drag that thing out.
It seems to me that there's a lot more subplots going on this year than usual. Oh, and I laughed when LaGuerta try to "measure" if the slide found at Travis' death were the same size from the BHB ones... isn't that size standard?
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Deb and Dex living together creates one major logic chasm... who's caring for Aaron Harrison? Is Jaime his "parent" now? That part made no sense.
FTFY. I thought the same thing. Maybe they'll explain it more next episode, but Harrison was never a huge part of Dex's life anyway, which didn't make much sense either.
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Just watched it. I was thinking the same thing ^^ about Harrison. I'm afraid that is just something we are going to have to accept, regardless of how ridiculous it is.
Anyways... I enjoyed this episode about the same as the first, maybe more. Looking towards the end of the show, I can't see how Dexter is not going to die. After everything he has done, and we've seen him do, it would be such a cop-out for him to just be 'rehabilitated', and prison wouldn't be fitting either.
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Loving this season, just saw Episode 3 for once Australia is only a couple of days behing in the U.S. programming.
From the conversation above it appears everyone has only seen a couple of episodes so I won't reveal any spoilers.
But the thing I like about this season is for once we are seeing multiple characters starting to piece together facts that could spell the end for Dexter.
Louis, The Russians, Deb's boss is it Maria ....... not sure how to spell the bitches surname...she was the nurse in Oz :smiley:
I agree Dexter seems to be more concerned with his dark passenger than he is for Harrison, but after Ep 3 that may change again.
Quinn who in the past was quite suspicious of Dexter has now been relegated to an almost minor character, he would be lucky to have a page of dialogue per episode.
I don't now what will happen but I love the scenes with Dexter's dad so I hope that continues, but even that doesn't seem to be every episode anymore.....
I almost wouldn't mind Deb. dying but ultimately it would be great if Dexter can make Maria look guilty that would be the best thing......
I am looking forward to every episode which is a change from some of the previous seasons....let's hope the writing keeps getting better and better! :corn
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The whole strobe light maze sequence was absolutely intense. It was a great episode indeed and I am so happy that Louis is gone, he was annoying, but his blood on the boat may come back to haunt Dexter.
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The whole strobe light maze sequence was absolutely intense.
I didn't like it. Plagued by too many cliches: 1) weapon knocked out of reach, 2) bad guy lingers over helpless victim so long that he loses his chance to kill them 3) hero appears at last second to save victim (which always goes along with #2), and 4) leaving an unconscious serial killer unattended, allowing him to escape (this one especially was absolutely ridiculous).
Otherwise, it was a solid episode. I was actually sad to see Louis go so early because I wanted to see how far things would escalate between him and Dexter.
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I love Masuka, he's awesome. :metal
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Seriously, the whole Louis storyline completely shit the bed in the last two episodes. He started out as this interesting wildcard who's motivations were unclear and who clearly had knowledge and plans about/for Dexter. Instead, he turns out to be a petty sniveling moron who dies while trying to sink a 14' boat with a power drill by drilling through the deck :facepalm:
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I think it was clear the writers didn't have any idea of where to go with Louis so they just decided the make the big bad of the season kill him.
Also, it's pretty obvious the Louis blood splatter on the boat will come back to haunt Dex.
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Yea, but I'm glad he's gone right now. It's adds another twist to the Russian Story Arc, which is looking pretty good right now.
Also, it's pretty obvious the Louis blood splatter on the boat will come back to haunt Dex.
Do you think Deb will think Dexter killed Louis at some point?
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Probably, or maybe LaGuerta with her little investigation into the BHB.
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Probably, or maybe LaGuerta with her little investigation into the BHB.
That's a great point. I almost completely forgot about her investigation.
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Don't worry, everyone forgets about everything every character not named Dexter or Debra does.
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It's been so long since I watched season 2. Does LaGuerta suspect Dexter at this point? I can't remember is Doakes confided his suspicions about Dexter to her.
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Not that I can remember.
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The whole strobe light maze sequence was absolutely intense. It was a great episode indeed and I am so happy that Louis is gone, he was annoying, but his blood on the boat may come back to haunt Dexter.
I agree tenfold! I fucking love this show.
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It's been so long since I watched season 2. Does LaGuerta suspect Dexter at this point? I can't remember is Doakes confided his suspicions about Dexter to her.
Possibly. Quinn also did. She has to make the connection sooner or later.
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Well, LaGuerta did die in the books, so maybe she'll die this season. Who knows. I can say that I already like this season way better than 6...
...and I liked 6
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It's been so long since I watched season 2. Does LaGuerta suspect Dexter at this point? I can't remember is Doakes confided his suspicions about Dexter to her.
Possibly. Quinn also did. She has to make the connection sooner or later.
It's funny how when Quinn was first brought he was continuing Doakes' character somewhat, but has since been relegated to "meh".
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What do you mean? He started leaving Dexter alone for Deb, and he may have forgotten about it now. I don't know. Perhaps it'll be triggered very easily again.
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It's more of a critique how everyone else on the show is just bumbling and fumbling through the season with nothing interesting to do.
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I wasn't expecting them to bring up Season 5 again, seeing as it wasn't received too well. And after boning Hannah, I hope this season doesn't take a season 2,3, and 5 twist and get lame, I don't think it will.
I've also been reading that Showtime wants a season 9, but the writers are saying no
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That's interesting, very interesting.
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Latest episode was very uneventful compared to the rest of the season. Not great, but not bad, although the last scene made me facepalm.
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Same here, it was really a :facepalm: moment
I just don't get it. Haven't the writers learned that when they do that stuff, it usually never turns out that great. Unless this does serve as some sort of great plot set-up, cause remember folks, after that episode, we're at the halfway point for the season.
Also, another rumor that I've been hearing is that season 8 starts filming in February which is really early for them, there have been some hints at a season 8 longer than 12 episodes
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That's also very interesting. Where are you hearing all of these rumors?!
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https://www.dexterdaily.com (https://www.dexterdaily.com)
They got a lot of information, and they track down a lot of things. Like the casting call for Harrison aged 17 in the 2nd to last episode of the season.
And SPOILER
Astor and Cody return in episode 8
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The spoiler font wasn't small enough... :facepalm:
I did that to myself. :lol
They got a lot of information, and they track down a lot of things. Like the casting call for Harrison aged 17 in the 2nd to last episode of the season.
For this season?!
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It's not much of a spoiler, I've been thinking that they're going to come back. I don't think they'll be too big of an impact on the story, unless Hannah becomes central to the plot
Sorry though
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Not a problem. I hope they do NOT make Hannah the central plot. We've already seen that before for Dexter.
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The circumstances are a bit different, but I agree completely, it's all been done and any attempt to try and do it again will just be a repeat
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Yeah, I don't like what happened with Hannah, I mean it's not like this happened back in season 2 with Lilah... or season 3 with Miguel Prado... or season 5 with Lumen.
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Like I said before, wasn't expecting them to bring up Lumen last night, and then seemingly start a plot that is similar.
The worst part... We didn't get to see Hannah's boobs. I'm sorry, my dad and I were betting on it to happen
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Like I said before, wasn't expecting them to bring up Lumen last night, and then seemingly start a plot that is similar.
The worst part... We didn't get to see Hannah's boobs. I'm sorry, my dad and I were betting on it to happen
All hope is not lost. We could see some at the beginning of the next episode.
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All the interactions between Deb and Dexter haven been great, though. I love how she's questioning all that has happened in the show so far, becoming the voice of the audience and showing that Dex is an unreliable narrator.
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Hmm, never thought of that before. That's a good point and makes me look at Deb a bit differently now.
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Yea, that is a main reason why this season is so awesome. We're not just seeing things from Dexter's perspective. It's something drastically different.
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My GF turned me on to this series at the end of last season. I don't have showtime so she record's and I watch it over at her house. Very interesting and provokative programming to say the least. I like it a lot. However, the GF has to explain some things to me cause these recent episodes are reverting back to stuff that's happened in previous seasons and I never saw those. Still a great show though....
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:hat
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Great episode tonight. Can't wait for the next one! :corn
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So...............was anyone else hoping Dexter (when in the gay bar with Volstagg) would grab and kiss him then tell him to call him David?
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Very funny! :laugh: I didn't think of that, I miss six feet under....
But I just loved the moment Deb told Dex she was in love with him..... Can't wait for next week :corn
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So...............was anyone else hoping Dexter (when in the gay bar with Volstagg) would grab and kiss him then tell him to call him David?
Not that explicit but I was hoping for a reference. :D
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Considering the quality of the past couple years, I'm really digging this season.
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Fucking kill Hannah already. Incest and gay mobsters with a vengeance is much more exciting.
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Fucking kill Hannah already. Incest and gay mobsters with a vengeance is much more exciting.
Hannah isn't a very interesting character, however her relationship to Dex and what that means to Deb makes it interesting.
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I could be wrong, but I think Hannah's character was cast for both the 7th and 8th season, so we'll just have to deal with it. Personally, I like her character. All in all, this season has been light years ahead of the past few seasons, so I'm not going to complain. Pretty excited for tonight's episode! :corn
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Not as great an episode as the teasers made it out to be, but I love Isaac Sirko's character both as a villain and as a way to dig deeper into Dexter. Kinda feel that the arson arc was shoehorned to fill in the void for that last few episodes, but I'm interested to see La Guerta investigate Dexter a bit more.
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The last episode has a very interesting cast member returning. How are they going to bring him back? Flashbacks? This is very interesting. It doesn't say there on the page (I don't think) but the title of the episode is supposedly "Surprise, Motherfucker"
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2235994/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2235994/)
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I thought that they were going to take the Ukrainian story arc to the end, so I was surprised to see it end last night. It leaves the season finale wide open at this point, but I fully expect LaGuerta's investigation to play a role in the season finale.
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I thought that they were going to take the Ukrainian story arc to the end, so I was surprised to see it end last night. It leaves the season finale wide open at this point, but I fully expect LaGuerta's investigation to play a role in the season finale.
Well they're not totally done with it. Dex kind of implies that he will avenge Volstagg and we still have to tie up what Quinn does with the whole thing, but over all yea I was surprised that they ended the bulk of it 3 episodes before it ends.
I mean I can't see really getting too into the whole burning guy thing and they only have three episodes to deal with it. Not sure what they will do with that.
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We had been having TV issues, sound cutting out and stuff like that, so when we watched the episode last night, there was a scene where Isaac is talking to Dexter, and he said "Have you ever *sound cuts out* a man, Dexter?" to which Dexter replies that he has, and many.
I lol'd
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We had been having TV issues, sound cutting out and stuff like that, so when we watched the episode last night, there was a scene where Isaac is talking to Dexter, and he said "Have you ever *sound cuts out* a man, Dexter?" to which Dexter replies that he has, and many.
I lol'd
Say what?
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Because the sound cut out it sounded like he could have been asking him if he had slept with any men. Especially since it came from Isaac.
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Because the sound cut out it sounded like he could have been asking him if he had slept with any men. Especially since it came from Isaac.
Oh sorry, that was supposed to be Keith saying "Say what?". I just didn't feel like editing the picture and so forth.
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Lol. Six Feet Under was great.
As for last night's episode... not quite as explosive as the last. It was sad to see Isaac go, and I'm also a bit surprised that they are introducing this new burn killer story so late in the season. Still looking forward to seeing how they wrap it all up though, and it's only a matter of time before Laguerta finds out for sure what Dexter has been up to.
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One thing about the burning guy is that, like Dexter, he is the professional in his field to investigate the victims.
So there's a possibility that he, like Dex, uses his killing as a form of Justice.
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One thing about the burning guy is that, like Dexter, he is the professional in his field to investigate the victims.
So there's a possibility that he, like Dex, uses his killing as a form of Justice.
That's what I was thinking, especially when they were both in the elevator at the same time. I had the feeling Dexter thought the arson guy had something to do with it.
And while we're speculating, I think the arson story arc may lead to Dexter killing someone and then that situation complicating and combining with the fact LaGuerta is investigating for the real Bay Harbor Butcher.
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I am so excited for Sunday's episode. I just can't wait for the season finale as well--I saw the advertisement for it on Showtime's site and the tagline they have and I am so pumped and after reading the synopsis for it.
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So let me just make sure......there's one more reason after this one, and then that's it, right?
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Supposedly, yeah. After reading what the finale's about, I have a pretty good idea how the series will go in the last season. However, I've read that Showtime wants 2 more seasons but the writers don't want to
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Supposedly, yeah. After reading what the finale's about, I have a pretty good idea how the series will go in the last season. However, I've read that Showtime wants 2 more seasons but the writers don't want to
Well then I hope there aren't any then.
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Tonight's episode was pretty cool. Very excited to see where the last two episodes of this season go.
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Tonight's episode was pretty cool. Very excited to see where the last two episodes of this season go.
I think it's getting a bit weird. He didn't kill the arson guy, because he realizes that he doesn't have to kill (despite the guy now being able to identify him) but then he decides to kill Ellsworth because the guy was a bad dad?
It sounds like Dex is just going to embrace being a random murderer at this point, not a fan of that idea.
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At least we're past that "Dark Passenger" crap now, though.
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At least we're past that "Dark Passenger" crap now, though.
Yea, but we also are past the code, which was what made Dex different than all the other people he killed. Now he's just a killer.
And I dunno, that seems pretty lame to me.
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Ending the Ukrainian mob plot really killed the season IMO. There's almost nothing interesting left at this point.
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Yeah I think this show has really gone down hill lately, the writing is inconsistent and the show is generally less interesting than it was before. It really seems like they're doing everything they possibly can to drag the series out as long as possible.
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I don't know, I enjoyed it. Dexter's character is still developing where in Sunday's episode, he finally realizes there is no Dark Passenger and he is responsible. In an interview with the show-runner, he said Sunday's episode was the catapult that is going to eventually bring us to the end. I'm excited to see what happens next weekend.
And to see what the casting call for Harrison aged 17 brings us and to see Older Dexter
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The last 10 minutes were great. The rest of the episode was cool. The moment Dexter realized he'd been set-up. That was intense too.
Can't wait for the finale
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Yea, the final should be really cool, especially since there is really no indication as to what could happen. And that's the opposite of the previous seasons.
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The last 10 minutes were great. The rest of the episode was cool. The moment Dexter realized he'd been set-up. That was intense too.
Can't wait for the finale
Totally agree with that... the end of the episode was really exciting. Looks like we're in for a great finale. :tup
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Last night's episode was probably my favorite yet of this season. Very tricky move by Laguerta, and I'm surprised I didn't see it coming. Also, I've got a strong feeling that Deb knocked herself out in order to set Hannah up. Anyways, the finale should be great!
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Last night's episode was probably my favorite yet of this season. Very tricky move by Laguerta, and I'm surprised I didn't see it coming. Also, I've got a strong feeling that Deb knocked herself out in order to set Hannah up. Anyways, the finale should be great!
I agree 100%. I was extremely surprised to see LaGuerta attempt to set up Dexter.
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Yea, I thought the ending was great. Although I don't like that Dex is acting so stupid recently.
Not the set up, no one could have seen that one coming.
But Deb? Pretty obvious she poisoned herself.
And Tits McGee? How could he set her up when she knows EVERYTHING? Just a bad move on his part.
I also have no idea why dex is so terrified of prison, I mean like he is MORTIFIED of prison. I have a feeling he'd be able to handle himself just fine there.
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Great episode.
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Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to next week's finale. Really surprised though that he just had Hannah arrested, given all she knows. I honestly hadn't thought of Deb intentionally overdosing herself, but I really like that idea.
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Also, I've got a strong feeling that Deb knocked herself out in order to set Hannah up.
Definitely possible... a friend of mine mentioned the same idea to me. It makes perfect sense.
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Maybe... What I think that Dexter will come to the same conclusion, and somehow get her released because he loves (?) her. But then it will turn out that she really did "poison" Deb and Dexter will kill her. Or something completely different of course.
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But Dex can't just get Hannah out. She didn't go in for poisoning Deb, she went in for killing that writer guy. Dex can't just pull her out, he's just a splatter analyst.
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I know. But the pen is the only evidence. It may get lost or something.
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I know. But the pen is the only evidence. It may get lost or something.
Eh, I doubt Dex is going to do that. I mean, he's been an idiot lately, but I doubt he'll become THAT stupid.
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Maybe. The whole thing just screams major plot twist to me.. We've started out thinking Hannah did it, now we suspect Deb did it herself which we will be lead to believe throughout the episode. Only to make it clear that it was Hannah after all.
Anyway that's just my suspicion. I'm always wrong. :lol
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Maybe. The whole thing just screams major plot twist to me.. We've started out thinking Hannah did it, now we suspect Deb did it herself which we will be lead to believe throughout the episode. Only to make it clear that it was Hannah after all.
I dunno, I thought Deb did it from the beginning.
Hell, I thought Deb did it since before the show ever started and Michael C. Hall was still doing Six Feet Under.
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Yeah, I knew when she said, "I don't make mistakes" that it wasn't Hannah. Still, SPOILERS... Isn't she cast for the last season? I would have normally expected her to die in this next episode a la pyromaniac chick, but this changes things
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So I hadn't watched since episode 7, I caught up with the rest of you now. Surprise that Isaac was killed, he had become the most interesting part of the season and his interactions with Dexter since the gay bar were really really good!
Deb probably did poison herself and to Adami's point, yes Hannah knows everything, but so does Deb and Deb doesn't have the social stigma Hannah does so that may work against her. Plus, Deb is the Lt. of homicide.
Can Quinn go and die already?! I never liked his character but God does he get stupider and stupider with each season.
I don't like that Dexter realized there was no "Dark Passenger", means that he doesn't have to adhere to Harry's code which makes him just another killer which will mean his downfall.
LaGuerta's investigation, while right, became an obsession and something that (from Matthews POV or anyone else not named Dexter or Deb) makes no fucking sense so I enjoyed Matthews being the way he was with her. Also, I don't know how that will be handled but I'm intrigued, if Dex does kill her that will probably re-open the BHB case and Deb would have to go hunting for Dex which would be a pretty nice plot for the last season.
Jennifer Carpenter, I hope you get some award recognition because you have deserved it this year.
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regarding Quinn, are they trying to see how high they can get his hair this season? I swear each episode his hair is sticking up taller than the one before.
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Oh, and something I forgot: Jaime should push for custody of Harrison! She's basically raising him!
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That was a great finale. I'm glad that one particular character is finally dead! YAY!
I can not wait for the eighth season!
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That was a great finale. I'm glad that one particular character is finally dead! YAY!
I can not wait for the eighth season!
I liked it a lot too.
Although I'm very curious how they'll cover up that particular characters death.
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That was a great finale. I'm glad that one particular character is finally dead! YAY!
I can not wait for the eighth season!
I liked it a lot too.
Although I'm very curious how they'll cover up that particular characters death.
Me, too. Its the same questions I was asking myself after the season 6 finale.
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The only thing that scares me about that finale was... we now could get a Deb/Dex relationship. Fuck! Loved all the flashbacks with Doakes!
And again, Jennifer Carpenter deserves some award recognition this year.
Interesting to note that now both Deb and Dexter have traumatic experiences involving shipping containers.
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Wow, crazy ending.
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Just saw the episode. Needless to say, this season has been miles ahead of the last couple, and it ended very well. Those last 5 minutes really were quite intense. I loved the Doakes flashbacks as they did a great job of setting the tone for this particular episode. I was also glad to see Hannah get away and I'm interested to see what kind of role she plays in the final season. Finally, I really feel bad for Deb. There's no turning back now, and I can't wait to see how it all plays out.
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Great finale, and even though Dexter kills La Guerta in the books, having Deb pull the trigger was very fitting given her character this past season. This season has been almost as much about Deb as Dexter, and they pulled it off very well.
Overall, much better season than I expected given the dip over the past couple years.
Interesting tidbit: The final scene was done the moment Deb pulled the trigger. They kept the cameras going as Deb (unscripted) ran over to La Guerta.
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Yeah, I saw that interview and it was a fantastic idea because when she ran towards her it really sold the moment IMO.
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Yeah, I saw that interview and it was a fantastic idea because when she ran towards her it really sold the moment IMO.
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That was insane. This was by far the best season since 4, and maybe even as good as 2. I'm really excited to see what they can do with it from here and how they wrap things up.
Also, why all the hate for Hannah? She's awesome.
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All I know is the flashbacks in the finale made me want to rewatch season 2. :heart Doakes
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I'm trying to find a proper link to it, but I read on Dexter Daily that season 8 is going to premiere this summer at some point instead of waiting for the fall. Executive Producer Scott Buck mentioned it in an interview
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Finally caught up with everything. After a dip in the middle, this season really got it's shit together in the last 4-5 episodes.
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I'm trying to find a proper link to it, but I read on Dexter Daily that season 8 is going to premiere this summer at some point instead of waiting for the fall. Executive Producer Scott Buck mentioned it in an interview
I wonder why. Maybe that could hint at a longer season?
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I really liked the last season, with Doakes being the highlight. He's one of the funniest characters EVER! :lol
I'm really excited to see where all of this is going.
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I wonder why. Maybe that could hint at a longer season?
I think that's probably a good reason. And Showtime really is trying to ride this one-two punch of Dexter and Homeland for awhile. In the same interview, they aren't even calling it the last season anymore, just that it's up to Showtime whether there are more seasons.
Another annoying thing that I've read from the producer is that Quinn dating Jaime is going to put Quinn back in Dex's domain.
https://www.dexterdaily.com/2012/12/scott-buck-dishes-on-debs-feelings-for.html#more (https://www.dexterdaily.com/2012/12/scott-buck-dishes-on-debs-feelings-for.html#more)
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I really hope Showtime doesn't milk this until it dies. The resurgence in quality is great, so let the writers end it how they want to and leave people feeling confident in Showtime's ability to not suck all the life out of its shows.
Seriously, how could anyone forgive them if season 8 knocks it completely out of the park, and Showtime orders a ninth season that sucks massive ass?
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From what I've read (no sorry, don't have a link) Showtime wants them to do a 9th season but the writers are saying no.
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You'd be correct, Adami.
Man, I really hope that Showtime just lets this be the final season. Season 7 ended in a perfect way to set up the end
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https://m.usatoday.com/article/news/1828861 (https://m.usatoday.com/article/news/1828861)
Dexter returns June 30th!
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Cool.
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Why so early?
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Why so early?
Answer is in the previous article. They're setting up two new shows to go back to back with Dexter (Summer) and Homeland (Fall).
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Dexter fans come forth!
I just finished the premier from last night, the beginning of the end. Some thoughts,
1. Dexter is a terrible parent
2. This new neuroscientist character looks promising.
3. Dexter is going to have to die, before this is all over with. Is there any chance it doesn't end with his death?
4. I'm curious to see just how the neuroscientist was related to Harry.
5. The nannie's got a beautiful body.
I just hope this season delivers, and leaves Dexter Morgan's universe with the kind of quality with which we were introduced, rather than the way it eventually became in seasons 4/5/6.
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I really disliked her line about "I don't fit Harry's code", do the writers think I've forgotten the multiple people Dexter has killed that don't fit the code? And I'm not just referring to people he's kill in self-defense.
Also, I really didn't like the 6 month jump. I wanted to see Deb and Dex's first interactions after she killed LaGuerta, the moment she went "Fuck this shit!" and left Miami Metro, how did Matthews come back and when Batista decided to unretire.
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Good point on the 6 month jump. To be honest, I'd forgotten a lot of those details.
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Next episode name is "Every silver lining..."
NUGGETZ! :hat
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I really disliked her line about "I don't fit Harry's code", do the writers think I've forgotten the multiple people Dexter has killed that don't fit the code? And I'm not just referring to people he's kill in self-defense.
But if she knew Harry back when he was training Dexter, she'd know about the code, but not that he'd deviated from it?
I enjoyed the premiere, and after a pretty strong season last year I'm really looking forward to how this season plays out.
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6 months later, Harrison is now an entirely different person and speaking fluently now :rollin Regardless, I enjoyed the episode.
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I really disliked her line about "I don't fit Harry's code", do the writers think I've forgotten the multiple people Dexter has killed that don't fit the code? And I'm not just referring to people he's kill in self-defense.
But if she knew Harry back when he was training Dexter, she'd know about the code, but not that he'd deviated from it?
Probably, but I believe the writers put that line there as a exclamation point to end the episode, a "BOOM! You didn't see that coming, did ya?!" surprise. But yes, if they're gonna retcon that part of the show then I can totally see that.
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So yeah, I finally got around to checking this show out.
Seasons 1 and 2 are both :hefdaddy :hefdaddy.
Season 3 wasn't nearly as good, but still solid.
I just started Season 4, and two episodes in, it is showing promise. Most rave about it, so I expect it to be another awesome one.
Nearly everyone I know who watched the show has advised me to not even bother with the last few seasons (since the finale was supposedly horrible beyond belief), and the consensus is to just stop after 4.
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4 is absolutely amazing and in my top 3 for the show. I can't believe they followed it with season 5. However, I loved season 6. But yeah, stop after that. In fact, Season 5 (except the first 5 minutes of episode 1) can be skipped and you'll have missed nothing.
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The fourth was the last truly good season, after that it was pretty much all downhill (although I liked season seven more than five or six, because of Ray Stevenson). Season eight is just terrible beyond belief and for more reasons than just the finale.
Having said all that, you will likely find yourself watching the last four seasons and enjoying parts of them. They aren't 100% garbage, seasons five and seven have some good moments, six sort of just plods along slowly, is too predictable, and handles its themes quite poorly, Eight is a mess because the writers/producers don't appear to have been able to decide on what the focus of that season should be, so it lacks any sort of direction or natural flow as it jumps from one story to another. Plus as you've heard, the series finale is shit beyond belief.
It's a real shame the show declined the way it did, because those first four seasons (one, two, and four in particular) are amazing.
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I've watched all up to (I think) Season 6 - ends with his sister walking in on him in the church. So sounds like Season 7 is worth a shot.
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So yeah, I finally got around to checking this show out.
Seasons 1 and 2 are both :hefdaddy :hefdaddy.
Season 3 wasn't nearly as good, but still solid.
I just started Season 4, and two episodes in, it is showing promise. Most rave about it, so I expect it to be another awesome one.
Nearly everyone I know who watched the show has advised me to not even bother with the last few seasons (since the finale was supposedly horrible beyond belief), and the consensus is to just stop after 4.
That is exactly how I progressed with the show and your season ratings are spot on. I made it 3/4 of the way through Season 5 before I stopped caring.
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I've watched all up to (I think) Season 6 - ends with his sister walking in on him in the church. So sounds like Season 7 is worth a shot.
Season seven is a bit of a mess (something common to all the post-four seasons) and it has some plots that go absolutely nowhere (another thing they have in common) and one or two "why the fuck would they do that" or "such a wasted opportunity" moments (guess what? Yet another thing the last four seasons have in common. Did they learn nothing?), but it was probably the least offensive season of the latter half of the series to me.
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My only beef with the show is the predictability of it all. I mean, I am halfway through Season 4, and while there will likely be more collateral damage along the way, Dexter befriending Trinity, that going sour eventually, and the season culminating with Trinity ending up on Dexter's table is fairly obvious. I accidentally saw that Julie Benz (Rita) was only a regular on the show for the first four seasons, so it will be interesting to see if she is some of that collateral damage...
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Honestly you can go from season 4 to season 7 and then stop there.
5 was bad, 6 was frustrating and 8 was just stinking pile of donkey shit!
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Okay, Season 4 was truly awesome. Almost as awesome as 1 and 2. The "Hello, Dexter Morgan" scene was mind-boggingly great, and Rita's death at the end was absolutely crushing.
Having watched the first episode of Season 5, too, they should have just ended it there (although you can't exactly have a one-episode season :lol). It ending with Dexter's voiceover saying he loved Rita would have been the perfect ending, as he went from a completely empty monster to a man who finally admitted that he loved someone (albeit in the voiceover).
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I think even the writer's eventually said: "Yeah, season 5 sucked" because season 6 begins I think almost a year after S5 ended and the characters introduced in S5 are never mentioned again. :lol
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Oh my. :lol
I've decided, rather than suffer through four seasons of what most call not good TV, I am gonna just read the reviews of each season online, and then I'll watch the key moments/episodes that happened over the last four seasons on Netflix. It really is a shame the show went downhill like that, since the first four seasons would have made it one of the best shows ever (and is still might be).
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My biggest problem with the show is how much of a dumb cunt Dexter becomes over the last few seasons. Like, it seems like he forgets the most basic of things about what made him at the very minimum a successful serial killer.
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And I hate how the writers just hit reset with every new season and completely forget about events that happened before and even murderers they left free and then they retcon Dexter's "origin story" with the whole Vogel thing. ugh!
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That's weird, cause I've liked the continuity from season to season (although, again, I am referencing only 1-4), like how the ice truck killer story is always somewhat of a factor, even though it happened all the way back in Season 1. However, the Maria/Angel romance was one of those "okay, where did that come from?" moments. :lol
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My biggest problem with the show is how much of a dumb cunt Dexter becomes over the last few seasons. Like, it seems like he forgets the most basic of things about what made him at the very minimum a successful serial killer.
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:lol
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I've decided, rather than suffer through four seasons of what most call not good TV, I am gonna just read the reviews of each season online, and then I'll watch the key moments/episodes that happened over the last four seasons on Netflix. It really is a shame the show went downhill like that, since the first four seasons would have made it one of the best shows ever (and is still might be).
I'd recommend watching any episodes with Stan Liddy (season five) or Isaak Sirko (season seven) in them. Those characters made their respective seasons much more watchable.
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Oh my. :lol
I've decided, rather than suffer through four seasons of what most call not good TV, I am gonna just read the reviews of each season online, and then I'll watch the key moments/episodes that happened over the last four seasons on Netflix. It really is a shame the show went downhill like that, since the first four seasons would have made it one of the best shows ever (and is still might be).
Better yet, just read a description of the ending of the last episode. I haven't seen it but my friend described it in great detail and it's hilariously bad.
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I haven't seen Season 7 but yes.................Stan Liddy was hilarious.
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Better yet, just read a description of the ending of the last episode.
I have. It doesn't sound as awful as I would have thought, especially if you take out the last scene. In other words, had Dexter actually died to save his son from himself, instead of faking his own death and becoming a lumberback (really? :rollin :rollin), it probably would have gone over a little better, even if the last season as a whole was as bad as most said it was. On paper, not sure how I feel about Debra dying in the final episode.
Ultimately though, when I was at the very beginning of Season 1, my thought was, Dexter has to die and/or get outed to everyone as a serial killer. And neither of those things happen.
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I think everyone felt the same thing, either he has to get killed by some other serial killer, ideally doing the same thing as him, or be caught.
It looked like it was heading in the direction of a really thrilling conclusion to that at the end of S6. Dexter had killed some people that didn't fit "the code" and had been more on impulse, deb had caught him, all it needed was a serial killer that was smarter than him and deb trying to lead the police to uncovering him and it would have been really thrilling to find out which happens first. Instead we got that shitty "hmm what does imaginary stepdad say" dialogue pointing out everything at every moment, followed by the writers avoiding the obvious 2 conclusions which could have been done really well and leaving us with that damn lumberjack crap. Hannah shouldn't have forgiven him for what he did, she should have been the serial killer that got to him!
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In the end, I think they were trying to make Dexter live in his own torment in having to be surrounded by the sound of chainsaws for the rest of his life, ending the circle--he witnessed his mom being killed with a chainsaw, now he's forever surrounded by that sound as a lumberjack....but really? A lumberjack is the ending.... :(
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that lessens the sucktitude of the last season/episode by about .001%
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Pretty much. The explanation didn't change much for me either
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One thing is for sure about this show: every time Dexter and Doakes had any type of verbal interaction, it was awesome.
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Surprise, motherfucker!
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I always thought a good ending to the show would be Harrison killing Dexter in the same way Dexter killed his victims.
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?? How would that even work?
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ever seen Pet Sematary?
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Yeah, Dexter getting killed by his 5-year old son definitely would have been a great ending. :lol :lol
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Oh, Harrison. Pretty much neglected by his father and being raised by Batista's sister since season 6 and his "loving" father thought it was a good idea to leave him to finished growing up with a wanted fugitive who makes no attempt to conceal her identity as a surrogate mother.
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I'm bumping this just to say that James LaBrie wrote a better ending to Dexter than the actual writers did.
I was just listening to Coming Home and I just thought: "Man, that's a way better ending than Dexter becoming a lumberjack..."
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I had no problem with the ending.
Quite simply you can't please everyone.
It had to end.
and...we are left with a lose end for a possible return.
the glass is half full people
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Meh, they seemingly didn't please (hardly) anyone.
As for a possible return..no, it's over.
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I finally (FINALLY) managed to slog through Season 8 and finish this thing up. It's pretty sad that the show that kept me binging on 5 episodes at a time in seasons 1, 2, and 4 became such a chore to watch in season 8, but I must say the finale wasn't NEARLY as bad as people were making it out to be. The episode itself (along with the one before it) was pretty solid with a lot of adrenaline-pumping moments like season 2 and 4's finales, and the ending with Deb is honestly even more crushing than Rita.
Sweet fucking jesus though. A lumberjack? They should have just ended it after the hurricane and Hannah reading it in the news.
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Has anyone here read any of the books?
If not, you might like them.
I'm currently about 2/3 finished with the second one.
There are major differences from the TV series.
A major character that died late in the series dies in the first novel.
As for the second one: imagine the worst thing you might do to someone without actually killing them.
Then multiply that by at least TEN.
That might give some idea of what this psycho-and I don't mean Dexter-does to his victims.
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Reading all this I must say :omg:
I finished season 8 last week and I thought it was decent, as were the seasons 5-7. Maybe not so good as the first four, but far from terrible. Reading all the comments here one must get the feeling that from season 5 on the series is the biggest pile of crap ever to be shown on tv ;D
OK, the lumberjack ending is at least questionable. As mentioned the writers said there will be no season 9 but this looks like it was the studio's will to at least have an open ending, so that there is a possibility for further Dexter sometime in the future.
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Reading all this I must say :omg:
I finished season 8 last week and I thought it was decent, as were the seasons 5-7. Maybe not so good as the first four, but far from terrible. Reading all the comments here one must get the feeling that from season 5 on the series is the biggest pile of crap ever to be shown on tv ;D
OK, the lumberjack ending is at least questionable. As mentioned the writers said there will be no season 9 but this looks like it was the studio's will to at least have an open ending, so that there is a possibility for further Dexter sometime in the future.
Yeah, often I find that fan reactions to things on the internet are much more extreme (either positive or negative). I'm not sure if this would apply to you but I tend to find that when I get to watch something all at once on DVD / Blu-ray etc. (especially being able to watch multiple seasons in a row) I tend to enjoy supposedly "bad" seasons much more and not perceive the huge differences in quality that people who watched week to week and year to year (so have time build expectations and to ruminate on each episode / season) seem to.
Seasons 5-7 were a decline from the peak reached in Season 4, but I still found the show good overall and enjoyed each season (although they all had their flaws). It was only Season 8 that I really think was bad. It wasn't the last episode or the very end specifically that did that (lumberjack Dexter may not be the most satisfying conclusion, but I can still imagine a good ending where that is the final destination), it was just the season as a whole that was very lackluster, and at times it even felt like it was much more poorly produced than previous seasons (I was noticing weird / bad things in the editing, music etc., and I'm not someone that ever goes out of my way to think about things like that).
My guess is that one reason everything after Season 4 being not worth watching gets perpetuated is: for many there was a very big drop-off between the story of Season 4 and Season 5, it's generally considered to decline from that point on rather than get better again, and because the last season / finale was so poorly recieved there isn't some bonus payoff for getting through the whole thing.
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Well, after Season 4, all of the main creative force behind the show leaved so...
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Well, after Season 4, all of the main creative force behind the show leaved so...
Don't worry guys, I'm on it:
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But yeah I agree. :D
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Reading all this I must say :omg:
I finished season 8 last week and I thought it was decent, as were the seasons 5-7. Maybe not so good as the first four, but far from terrible. Reading all the comments here one must get the feeling that from season 5 on the series is the biggest pile of crap ever to be shown on tv ;D
I agree with you that 5-8 were decent but, still, it was a big leap of quality after S4 (for worse).
The ending sucked though, i just pretend it never happened :\
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Season eight was just a huge mess. Spoilers for those who haven't watched it and care.
Instead of giving it a clear focus, it just jumped around to a bunch of things and, while some of those plots could have been interesting (Zach as a protege could have been something), they weren't given enough space to really develop the idea and flesh it out before it was dumped and something else shoehorned in to replace it. Compare this to earlier seasons where there is usually one primary plot point for the season, and then some secondary plots running alongside, making those seasons feel much more concise.
There were some really retarded things in the final season, too. Like Dexter and Hannah fleeing Miami via the airport when Hannah is a wanted fugitive and the authorities know that she's in Miami and are looking for her. The whole time I was watching this I was thinking "why would either of these people be stupid enough to go to an airport, even with fake ID there's no way security wouldn't know to keep an eye out for someone with her description." Then it becomes even more unbelievable when she makes it onto a plane without issue.
That's pretty much season eight in a nutshell: retarded fucking things happening one after the other that make me go :facepalm:
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What RuRoRul said, watching the episodes on dvd, sometimes four in a row, may have helped. And while there is a decline in quality, I just wanted to say that the show was imho still very good and I really enjoyed watching all seasons. Season 8 was a bit unfocused, but the stupid (or retarded fucking things) were present in every season, maybe to a lesser degree. But I really liked season 5 with the Lumen and Jordan Chase characters and (sacrilege coming up:) I didn't think season 4 was that much better than the rest.
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I think people hyped it up big time during it's play and still may put it up on a pedestal but I also think it's the best season by far. I mean there's just an obvious show of writing ability in S4 (as well as acting ability..which the entire series severely lacked in in my onion) that kind of teetered off after it ended. To each their own though! It was definitely a fun series, to be sure; and yeah, still better than the majority of television shows. On my list of series to watch though, it dropped a couple brackets because of the latter-half though.
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The terrible acting in Season 5 is what drove me away from the show. I only make it episode 9 of that season.
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Is it ranking time? We are on DTF, after all. :neverusethis:
Season 1
Season 4
Season 2
Season 3
Season 7
Season 5
Season 6
Season 8
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Ranking Time!
Season 1
Season 2
Season 4/Season 5
Season 3
Season 6
Season 7
Season 8
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Season 4
Season 2
Season 1
Season 3
Season 5
Season 6
Season 7
Season 8
It was only after quite a few watches I ended up rating Season 4 above my old favourite Season 2... the BHB / Doakes part is the best storyline in the show but Lila is one of the worst, so I couldn't keep ignoring such a huge part of the season.
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1 > 4 > 2 >>> 7 > 3 >>> 5 > 6 > 8
1 , 2, and 4 and the only ones I really liked. 3 and 7 were okay. 5, 6, and 8 I didn't like at all.
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You only put season 2 so high because Lila was running around naked most of the time ;D Annoying she might be, but she wasn't hard on the eyes.
Or maybe you just like the bay harbour butcher storyline, that's ok too.
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Having caught some of these on the marathon on cable TV this week, they should have wrapped this up after five seasons. Give how Rita sorta humanized Dexter, they should have followed up 4 by having him realize that he can't kill anymore, while at the same time Quinn does actually figured out that he was Kyle Butler, resulting in the reveal to everyone about what kind of person Dexter really was, and the series ends with everything crashing around Dexter.
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That would've ended the show perfectly but it's a shame when networks don't know when to kill their top shows in their prime and let them stew into shit for several years later out of desperation for ratings.
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I didn't even dislike the final couple seasons that much, but the ending was absolutely dreadful.
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I fucking hated it! The retconning of Dexter's "origin", the stupidity of Dexter while "stalking" the other killer, that fucking doctor, everything about the final episode!!
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Too bad no one here seems to have read any of the books.
I would like to be able to have someone to discuss the differences with.
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I actually thought Season 7 was pretty good, even though some of the writing was very clumsy and lazy.
8 was just very uninteresting. The whole Vogel thing was supremely uninteresting.
Having said that, I though the final episode wasn't that bad. Had they left the final scene out, and it had ended with Hannah and Harrison going to get ice cream with Dexter really having died, I could have lived with that, but the whole faking his death thing was just dumb.
Speaking of Hannah, the actress that played her is drop dead gorgeous. And I know that phrase gets overused, in this day and age of the internet, but she is hands down one of the most gorgeous women I've ever seen on TV or in film. :blush
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Yeah, she's insanely hot. By far the best addition to the show ever from a visual perspective.
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Speaking of Hannah, the actress that played her is drop dead gorgeous. And I know that phrase gets overused, in this day and age of the internet, but she is hands down one of the most gorgeous women I've ever seen on TV or in film. :blush
did you watch Chuck on NBC?
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No, why?
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Yeah she was hot, but was she a good choice to raise Harrison? Considering that Jaime was already playing the mother role for several seasons, it's hard for me to believe that she wouldn't have been able to continue doing so. Speaking of which, not only did Dexter become a worse killer as time went on, but he was also getting worse as a father, worker and, of course, brother.
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Right, the last thing Dexter said in his voiceover was that he had to protect Hannah and Harrison from himself, but I am not sure how faking your own death and letting your son be raised by a serial poisoner is really protecting him. :lol :lol Granted, at that point, Dexter obviously thought that anybody would be better than him, given how he, in his own words, destroys everyone he loves, but still.
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A serial poisoner being actively sought out by the authorities, yeah Harrison is gonna be just find with her!
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Consider this:
Dexter was in love with Hannah, which was probably the first time he had fallen for anyone that completely.
So therefore he was probably so blinded by the feeling, he was making really stupid decisions, like thinking he could trust her.
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Bump.
Just started watching it on Netflix, through season two as of now. Enjoying it thoroughly.
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Yeah, it's an excellent show :tup I actually just watched Six Feet Under recently and Michael C. Hall is superb in that too. It reminded me that I need to watch Dexter again eventually.
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I was rewatching Dexter earlier this year actually, but I only made it three episodes into season eight and haven't gone back to it yet. :lol
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I enjoyed Dexter but I don't think I'm rewatching it, except maybe the first season someday.
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Xanthul, if you are going to watch one season, I'd recommend season 4, with John Lithgow as the antagonist. He was absolutely awesome the entire season (the best of any of the antagonists), and I loved the plot twist at the end, mainly because I couldn't stand that particular character. I can see watching season 1 if you want to get a general understanding of the characters, though.
Yvonne Strahovsky is the actress that played Hannah. She was on Chuck and was also a regular on 24: Die Another Day, after her Dexter run.
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Lithgow was definitely awesome, and Season 4 was great, but the first two seasons are still the tops. The Dexter/Doakes feud was always the best part about the show, and once that was over, they lost that little extra something. It didn't help that the character who was basically Doakes' replacement, Quinn, was almost always thoroughly uninteresting.
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Xanthul, if you are going to watch one season, I'd recommend season 4, with John Lithgow as the antagonist. He was absolutely awesome the entire season (the best of any of the antagonists), and I loved the plot twist at the end, mainly because I couldn't stand that particular character. I can see watching season 1 if you want to get a general understanding of the characters, though.
Yvonne Strahovsky is the actress that played Hannah. She was on Chuck and was also a regular on 24: Die Another Day, after her Dexter run.
I was talking about rewatching, I already watched the whole series. If I had to watch it again I would probably watch just the first or 1 + 2 + 4 and leave it at that.
Lithgow was definitely awesome, and Season 4 was great, but the first two seasons are still the tops. The Dexter/Doakes feud was always the best part about the show, and once that was over, they lost that little extra something. It didn't help that the character who was basically Doakes' replacement, Quinn, was almost always thoroughly uninteresting.
Without entering in particular seasons ranking I'd probably say:
Great: 1, 2, 4
Passable: 5 (I didn't hate Lumen as much as most seem to hate her)
Bad: 3, 6, 7, 8
I'm tempted to put 7 in the passable category just for the raw power of Ray Stevenson but the whole Debrah/Laguerta thing pissed me off too much.
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My seasonal ranking:
1. Season 4
2. Season 1
3. Season 2
4. Season 3
5. Season 5
6. Season 7
7. Season 6
8. Season 8
My nemesis ranking:
1. Arthur Mitchell (Season 4)
2. The Ice Truck Murderer (Season 1)
3. James Doakes (Season 2)
4. Lila Tournay (Season 2)
5. Isaak Sirko (Season 7)
6. Maria La Guerta (Season 7)
7. Miguel Prado (Season 3)
8. Jordan Chase (Season 5)
9. Travis Marshall (Season 6)
10. Jacob Elway (Season 8)
11. The Skinner (Season 3)
As you can see, the caliber of the antagonist pretty much matches up with the quality of the season, with the exceptions of a few. Some years have more than 1 antagonist, or the one that you think is the antagonist turns out to be the lesser threat (Season 7). The only reason I rated the Skinner so low is because he's the serial killer I remember the least about. Although I rank Isaak and La Guerta highly on the list of adversaries, the season as a whole I wasn't crazy about, although it is subject to change if I ever rewatch it.
Although I agree with KevShmev that something was missing after the Doakes/Dexter storyline was over, I always felt Quinn was too much of a buffoon to be a real threat to Dexter. When La Guerta began closing in on him in Season 7, much of that threat was restored.
Upon further review:
5. Season 7
6. Season 5
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I agree about the Skinner, but I viewed him as the secondary antagonist of Season 3, behind Miguel. Even the S3 finale, after Miguel was dead, was more about the aftermath of his death, with the Dexter/Skinner confrontation near the end a mere afterthought.
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Am I the only one that loves season 3? Miguel Prado, his relationship with Dexter, and Jimmy Smits's acting knocked that fucking season out of the goddamn park. Season 3 is my favorite. When I forced my girlfriend to watch the show with me, I told her if she wanted to give up on it, she could...but only after we finished season 3.
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I like Season 3, but I don't love it. Like has been said before, the Skinner was a weak secondary antagonist, and while I agree that Smits did a great job, the Dexter/Miguel storyline was fairly predictable. Plenty of great moments in S3, and again, I do like it, but it just cannot compare to 1, 2 or 4.
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I mean, the first season definitely had the tightest writing, considering it was basically a televised version of the novel. I thought the ending to season two was a little forced and I didn't like the way Doakes went. Season four was great, but I didn't find Trinity and his relationship with Dexter nearly as fascinating as Miguel.
I dunno, you're right about the Dexter/Miguel storyline being predictable. I knew they were destined to become enemies, but I still cheered for their friendship and when the inevitably turned against each other it was so much better than I'd expected.
But hey, fuck season 8, right? We can agree on that.
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For the most part, yes. I couldn't have cared less about Dr. Vogel and that storyline. On the other hand, getting to look at Yvonne Strahovski a lot sure was nice. :coolio
I thought the way Doakes exited was very clever. They managed to kill him off without Dexter being the one who directly killed him, and it helped wrap up Lila's arc as well. Again, I hated to see Doakes go, but once he figured out who Dexter really was, followed by Dexter imprisoning him, you knew he was going to go; it was just a matter of when and how.
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I just re watched the entire series....I needed a long break after the disappointing ending.....I don't know what I would have liked to replace it...
Interesting to see if they have closed the chapter on Dexter forever or whether in ten years we see a follow up.
Ranking
1. S4
2. S3
3. S1
4. S5
5. S6
6. S2
7. S8
8. S7
Season 2 would have been higher if Lila wasn't in it, Doakes onto Dexter was great...
Season 7 with Deb in love with Dexter was too hard to watch, thank god nothing eventuated between them.
I think the ranking has more to do with the supporting cast. Overall this was a great series with great writing, great acting.
Season 1 really was watching thinking who else from the tv show OZ is going to turn up.....
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Thank you, lucky7, for reminding me about how Deb was in love with Dexter in season 7. I had completely forgotten about that. That's why I ranked it lower than season 5 initially, despite the fact that Sierko was an entertaining (albeit a red herring) nemesis. I think the fact that Captain La Guerta was closing in on both Dexter and Deb and the fantastic ending that season helped make me forget about the lackluster Dexter-Deb storyline.
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Having rewatched quite a bit of Dexter in the last week, thanks to the marathon of it on Showtime, I just have to say how maddening it is how they lept forward 6 months ago in between the end of S7 and the beginning of S8. The immediate aftermath of LaGuerto's death should have been seen on-screen by the viewers. The whole Vogel/Brain Surgeon storyline in S8 should have been chucked, and the focus been Deb's life post-murder of LaGuerto and LaGuerto's murder leading others to believe that maybe, just maybe, she was on to something about Dexter. The show deserved a better last season.
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The whole dumping Deb in the ocean never made sense
I too just rewatched it on Showtime and the entire last two seasons were just awful. I'm in the minority of liking Season 6 though
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I do think the end of S6 was one of his best kill scenes ever (and not because Deb walked in on him), when he killed Travis. Michael C. Hall's delivery was always amazing and he absolutely kills it in that scene (no pun intended).
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It still pisses me off that they botched the final season of this show so badly.
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They usually did a great job with casting, but the actor who played Oliver Saxon was awful. It's like he played the role as a total cliche, where when he was being the bad guy, he was like a villain in a silent movie with the over the top and absurd facial expressions, and when he was pretending to be the good guy, it came off as a guy trying too hard to act "good" and was just awful.
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I do think the end of S6 was one of his best kill scenes ever (and not because Deb walked in on him), when he killed Travis. Michael C. Hall's delivery was always amazing and he absolutely kills it in that scene (no pun intended).
Absolutely! he totally OWNED the fanatic, and not only because he was about to kill him.
If you allow me a comparison between Dexter's seasons and Metallica's carreer, I'd say...
Season 1, 2 and 4 are Ride, Master and Justice. The classic stuff.
Season 3 is either Kill 'em All or the Black Album. Maybe not the favorite of the majority, but still a lot of good stuff.
Season 5 and 6 are Load and Reload. People complaining a lot about it back in the time, but when you look back at it, there were many good things.
Season 7 is Hardwire to Self Destruct. Can't believe this late in the game they pull out something so strong.
Season 8 is St. Anger. A goddamn bloody disaster.
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I'd rank em as.
2 > 1 > 7 > 4 >>> 5 > 3 >>> 6 >8.
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4>1/2>>>3>>>>5>>>>>7>>>>>>>>>>>>6>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>8
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Nice work there, MirrorMask. :tup :tup
I still say 1 and 2 are neck and neck for the top spot, with 1 getting the slight edge because it had the better season finale, with 4 just behind both.
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Thanks!
Season 1 was essentially perfect. Season 4 is awesome also because of the best villain of the series, but the chain of events that wanted Rita back alone at home were kinda contrived.
Some years have passed now and I still think it's a shame that Dexter was never exposed. Imagine how powerful of a scene would have been him being busted, arrested, and people coming into the interrogation room or whatever to confront him. His family and friends telling to his face how they felt betrayed and cheated, him trying to explain that his affection for them was genuine.
Making Season 2 about him being almost discovered was a great and daring move back then, but in indsight it jeopardized the reveal for future season and made it less impactful, especially with the issue reappearing in seaason 7. As said above the season should have followed directly LaGuerta's death. Angel should have figured out, it could have taken a hint from an offhand remark of Masuka ("Sure Dexter brings bad luck... everyone going against him wound up dead") and that thing bugging him at night to the point that he starts doing some investigation on himself.
Dexter, being the almost ninja that he is, could have escaped his incarceration, and the best outcome would have been for him to die in order to protect Debra. Until he was the "perfect" serial killer, Dexter was basically flawless, never being caught, never even coming remotely close to risk it. The more he opened up to humanity, the more he made mistakes, and that should have been the bitter irony: that as a serial killer and a "monster" he was untouchable, and that the ultimate act of selfless love and humanity, trying to protect the person he cared the most for (his sister) would cost him his life. That way both his sides, the good and the bad, would have been exposed. People would have known that he was a monster capable of love, rather than "geeky lab guy who gost lost in a hurricane".
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I've always found Season 4 ever so slightly overrated - It's still very good, but for me it's the weakest of the very good seasons (see my ratings above). Lithgow as the Trinity killer is awesome, no question, having Lundy back (for a little while) is good too - and the ending is amazing......but there are a few flat episodes in the middle where Dexter basically goes full on Columbo on Trinity, stalking him and 'inserting' himself in to his life.
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Still, from that we got the most awesome Thanksgiving ever: "I should have fucking killed you when I had the chance" :metal
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As great as that is, my favorite line of his there is when he wraps the belt around Arthur's neck and yells, "Get the fuck OFF HIM!" That is when you are like, yeah, get 'em!! :metal :metal
I agree with soupytwist regarding the Dexter/Trinity scenes where Dexter is trying to get to know him; many of them just aren't that interesting when rewatching the series.
And I totally agree about Season 5. There should have been one season after Rita's death, where Dexter was exposed as Kyle Butler and eventually the Bay Harbor Butcher.
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Just started watching the show.
Me likey
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Just started watching the show.
Me likey
First two seasons are up there with the best of anything that's ever been seen on TV.
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Just started watching the show.
Me likey
Just repeat after me, "There are only four seasons of Dexter. There are only four seasons of Dexter. There are only four seasons of Dexter".
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Just started watching the show.
Me likey
First two seasons are up there with the best of anything that's ever been seen on TV.
For sure. Season 4 is great, too, but the first two are just so special.
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Rewatching Season 5.
I was an ardent hater of season 5 when it came out. Yes, it really jumps the shark, more so than previous seasons, I don’t think they handled the first episode of the season very well, I don’t think Julia Stiles is a good actress and her character kinda drags it down....
BUT
I don’t hate it as much as I used to, in fact, I think it’s a pretty good season overall. It’s nowhere near as bad as I remember it. I don’t like Lumen, but the Jordan Chase storyline is pretty good, the Liddy/Quinn storyline is pretty good as well as Santa Muerte. When it came out, it just paled in comparison to season 4. I always watched it through the lens of coming off Season 4. I remember when it came out, I made a big deal out of it. I ordered pizza and sat down, looking forward to the continuation of the previous Winter, then the season started.....It doesn’t live up to the greatness of what came before and is the start of the downfall of the series, but it’s not as bad as I remember.
I still can’t forgive the stupidity of Dexter putting Lumen in his and Rita’s house.
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A Dexter Limited Series is coming next Fall (hopefully). It’ll pick up where season 8 left off. It’s with the original show runner too who left after season 4. I’m hoping it’s good! I kinda laugh when they say it’s not Season 9 or a do over but more to do with the “hunger for Dexter that is out there”
No, it’s because you know they messed up the ending and people aren’t happy with it, so you are going to do a different conclusion.
I’m excited to see it though! I loved Dexter when it was good!
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It should have pretended that Season 8 never existed. I welcome more Dexter done good, but they royally screwed up the series and the comparison with another series ended in 2013, a certain Breaking Bad, was merciless.
Also, Deb gone, Dexter presumed dead, will he show up again in Florida or be a killer of lumberjack killers? I know I'll watch it but meh, they totalyl messed up the ending, especially after such a strong and "back on track" season 7. That's like Metallica doing St. Anger right after Hardwired.
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Finally started watching this. I’m 6 episodes in. I’m digging it.
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The first four seasons are all kinds of awesome (just the third is slightly sub par). The last four are hit and miss, they're not that bad and especially season 7 was very good and a return to form. Season 8 is Game of Thrones ending levels of bad.
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The first four seasons are all kinds of awesome (just the third is slightly sub par). The last four are hit and miss, they're not that bad and especially season 7 was very good and a return to form. Season 8 is Game of Thrones ending levels of bad.
I've heard this. My brother is a big fan of the series but he wishes that the last season was never made.
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Through two seasons.....I really dig it. I've found some of the storyline to be pretty predictable but all in all it's a fun series. I like the narration that Dexter gives and getting a glimpse into his mind and how his thought process goes. Pretty interesting. I do find the level of loyalty by Rita borderline unbelievable though. Her bounce back from Dexter cheating on her was saint like....I'm not sure many women would be so quick to just forgive and forget.
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Rita is damaged however. She had a very bad marriage (and violent, if I remember correctly). Heck, the reason Dexter even went for her in the first place is that she didn't want to have sex and he didn't have to pretend an intiimacy he didn't have. I guess it's forgiveable for Rita, after all she went through, "suck it up" and stick with a decent and good man.
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Rita is damaged however. She had a very bad marriage (and violent, if I remember correctly). Heck, the reason Dexter even went for her in the first place is that she didn't want to have sex and he didn't have to pretend an intiimacy he didn't have. I guess it's forgiveable for Rita, after all she went through, "suck it up" and stick with a decent and good man.
It's understandable given her history.....it just seemed like really quick forgiveness in the aspect of Dexter sleeping with someone else. It felt rushed on screen....but then again I'm binging 3 and 4 episodes at a time so maybe it wasn't? :lol
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I have four episodes left to go in S4. I've heard that the ending of this season with the Trinity Killer is REALLY good so I'm looking forward to wrapping this one up tonight.
It's a really fun series....I like the 'growth' of Dexter and him slowly experiencing the emotions of a 'real' person and trying to integrate them into his life.
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As I'm sure everyone has told you S4 is the pinnacle and it only goes down from there. I personally was ok with the following seasons, each season wasn't very consistent but overall they were still mostly enjoyable. I think each season of 5, 6 & 7 had some really good elements in them to make it worthwhile. Season 8 was the one where it was just not done well at all at several levels, story, acting, plots were all over the place and of course the ending is just kinda.. blah.
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As I'm sure everyone has told you S4 is the pinnacle and it only goes down from there. I personally was ok with the following seasons, each season wasn't very consistent but overall they were still mostly enjoyable. I think each season of 5, 6 & 7 had some really good elements in them to make it worthwhile. Season 8 was the one where it was just not done well at all at several levels, story, acting, plots were all over the place and of course the ending is just kinda.. blah.
yeah....I'm aware of the impending trend downward. I'll most likely just hammer it all out and call it even. If it gets too bad I'll catch the cliff notes and wait for the upcoming bonus season. But at the moment I'm good with the time investment.
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I remember comparing the seasons to Metallica albums... season 5 and 6 were Load and Reload - yeah, not that great, but once the shock passed you can find good stuff here and there. Season 7 was like Hardwired - a great return to form that nobody could imagine.
......Season 8 is St. Anger however.
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......Season 8 is St. Anger however.
Lulu!
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I have four episodes left to go in S4. I've heard that the ending of this season with the Trinity Killer is REALLY good so I'm looking forward to wrapping this one up tonight.
It's a really fun series....I like the 'growth' of Dexter and him slowly experiencing the emotions of a 'real' person and trying to integrate them into his life.
Good to see you're enjoying this!
Let us know when you finish Season 4.
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I have four episodes left to go in S4. I've heard that the ending of this season with the Trinity Killer is REALLY good so I'm looking forward to wrapping this one up tonight.
It's a really fun series....I like the 'growth' of Dexter and him slowly experiencing the emotions of a 'real' person and trying to integrate them into his life.
Good to see you're enjoying this!
Let us know when you finish Season 4.
Was hoping to do it last night but was unable. Perhaps tonight.
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Yeah.....can’t say I wasn’t expecting that. I had a hunch Arthur was going to exact some sort of devastation to Dexter. Glad it was just Rita. Great season though. Gonna get one mor episode in to see the aftermath.
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Yeah.....can’t say I wasn’t expecting that. I had a hunch Arthur was going to exact some sort of devastation to Dexter. Glad it was just Rita. Great season though. Gonna get one mor episode in to see the aftermath.
And what about the penultimate episode? Arthur turning the cat-and-mouse game upon Dexter, stalking him, entering the police station and then...........
"Hello..... Dexter Morgan" :(
That was the indication that some shit was about to go down.
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Yeah.....can’t say I wasn’t expecting that. I had a hunch Arthur was going to exact some sort of devastation to Dexter. Glad it was just Rita. Great season though. Gonna get one mor episode in to see the aftermath.
And what about the penultimate episode? Arthur turning the cat-and-mouse game upon Dexter, stalking him, entering the police station and then...........
"Hello..... Dexter Morgan" :(
That was the indication that some shit was about to go down.
Oh yeah....that was fun as well. Very neat character in Arthur. Huge balls to stroll into the station and view the HQ where his life’s work was displayed then confront Dexter.
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The "Hello...Dexter Morgan" moment is one of the greatest Dexter moments ever. Simply amazing.
Poor Rita. Had to deal with an abusive husband, and then gets murdered by a serial killer thanks in large part due to her (unbeknownst to her) serial killer second husband. At least she went to her grave never knowing who and what Dexter really was.
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While it was sad and heartbreaking to see Rita be killed....I have to admit that there were several moments in the show I just didn’t ‘buy’ how patient and understanding she was. There were moments that her behavior just didn’t make sense...no matter how sweet a person she was. I understand her history shaped her into the timid, kind....understanding person she was but I think they stretched that character trait a few times to the level of unbelievable for me.
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Blasted through S5 and the whole 'barrel girl' killings, Lumen and Liddy discovering Dexter. It was pretty good. I was curious as to if they were now going to have Dexter and Lumen be this killing couple or if something was going to happen to her. I'm wondering if she will make an appearance at a later date/season but I can't see that she's any real threat to turning Dexter in being that she's killed a couple people as well.
Anyway, started S6 and it looks like Tom Hanks kid and William Adama (Ed Olmos) will be the focus for a while. I'm in it for the long haul....gonna jam out these last three seasons so I'll be paying attention to try and sense when the downturn begins to take place. I liked S5...so I'm still waiting for this change of quality I've heard about from many people.
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I've liked Season 5 as well and I never found it as week as people claim it to be. Probably it pays a change of showrunner and having come after a fantastic and memorable season 4 - After the Trinity Killer you can only go down. But yeah, I overall enjoyed Season 5 (and Season 6 as well).
And I still think Season 7 is fantastic and was bringing us to a great finale, before they suddenly Game-of-Throned us with Season 8.
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I really can’t wait to see this S8 that everyone hates. It’s been built up as so utterly bad I’m almost more excited to get to see it that I have been watching the show this far.
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Season 5 was more forgettable than outright bad (similar to season 3 really) hampered by a poor performance by Julia Styles. Season 6 however is total trash - arguely trashy enough to be entertaining if you can forgive it's utter stupidity and plain bad writing in places. Season 7 is a return to form of sorts.....but Season 8 is just strangely flat and boring. It's also round this period (5 onwards) where they started giving the secondary characters really tedious subplots, Batista (who never did anything important in the entire show) in particular gets given some real dross.
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Finished S6. The Doomsday Killer plot line was pretty bland and rather disappointing trope of the dude just seeing the guy he Murdered and being ‘crazy’ in that way. There were multiple plot holes in that scenario.....couple of which Dexter being fooled that badly by an Amateur.....there’s a scene where Dexter sees the professor walk in the building.....the lady they let go reported there being two people....it was just a pretty lame storyline I thought. Not bad per say but certainly sub par.
So....Deb seeing Dexter kill someone and now after one episode of S7 knowing it all.....there’s just no way he’s not going to be forced to kill her at some point. That’s if he doesn’t want to go to prison. She’s too good a cop to let it go on and is just in denial right now. If I’m had to guess he’s gonna kill this lab geek guy that’s Fn with him and she’s going to find out and he will have to kill her to save himself. Probably justify it by saying Harrison needs his dad.
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The first episode of season 7 was fantastic. Dexter thinking on the fly and gaslighting Deb, Deb thinking over and over about it just like we all do in uncertain situations, and then finally took the matter upon herself.
The final scene of the episode is absolutely perfect in its simplicity, I remember urging Dexter to say it and finally let it all out.
"Did you kill all these people?"
"....Yes...."
"Are you..... are you a serial killer?"
Me: Say it! say it! let it out! finally say it!
Dexter: "Yes"
Yay!
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I really can’t wait to see this S8 that everyone hates. It’s been built up as so utterly bad I’m almost more excited to get to see it that I have been watching the show this far.
It's really quite amazing how they managed to fuck it up so spectacularly.
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I'd say the season itself is pretty bland. It's not that every episode sucks - was it just another season, it would have just been an average one.
It's the knowledge that it was the last coupled of course with the actual last episode that make everyone hate it. It's not a complete crapfest where you have to struggle to get through the episodes, it's more 11 episodes of "Yeah, ok, but this is the final season, when shit is gonna go down?" and then a complete clusterfuck of an ending.
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The first episode of season 7 was fantastic. Dexter thinking on the fly and gaslighting Deb, Deb thinking over and over about it just like we all do in uncertain situations, and then finally took the matter upon herself.
The final scene of the episode is absolutely perfect in its simplicity, I remember urging Dexter to say it and finally let it all out.
"Did you kill all these people?"
"....Yes...."
"Are you..... are you a serial killer?"
Me: Say it! say it! let it out! finally say it!
Dexter: "Yes"
Yay!a
Yeah.....that was pretty intense. I was expecting him to kill her right there.
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Season 6 was weak, but the Travis kill is one of my favorite Dexter kill scenes in the entire series. The way he mocks him is so awesome.
"Are you sure about that?"
"Yes."
"Good for you."
:lol :lol :lol :lol
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Season 6 was weak, but the Travis kill is one of my favorite Dexter kill scenes in the entire series. The way he mocks him is so awesome.
"Are you sure about that?"
"Yes."
"Good for you."
:lol :lol :lol :lol
"Everything is God's will!"
"Then it's God's will that you are on my table, uh?"
Travis: Sad Pikachu face
:lol
Yeah, Dexter owned him pretty hard in the entire speech.
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Yeah, good luck trying to outwit Dexter conversationally when on his kill table. A few gave him a run for his money and made him pause for thought, but Travis was not one of them. The car salesman (S2, I think) was another that made me chuckle. He kept running through lie after lie until Dexter, who had the correct answer every time a lie was thrown at him, finally just laughed at him.
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Also Dexter vs. Bail Organa (big bad of season 3, forgot his name, Jimmy something? EDIT: the character was Miguel Prado) was epic.
"I am like you Dexter"
"No. I know I am a monster" (which was really one of the defying character traits of him, having no illusions at all about what he was doing)
"... I accept you, Dex. I accept you like a brother"
"I killed my brother. I killed yours too"
Guess I'll have to find a compilation of the best Dexter table conversations on YouTube :D
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Oh man, I remember seeing that episode for the first time. In the pause between "I killed my brother" and "I killed yours, too," the realization quickly hit me that he was going to go there, and it was like instant gratification literally a second later.
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Finished S7. I don’t know.....I didn’t think it was all that bad. I enjoyed it. It was better than S6 for sure. Curious to see the aftermath of the Finale.
My largest complaint is that you can tell the only time the actor for Dexter and the kid who play Harrison spend together is the time on camera. Zero chemistry. I get that kid actors are tough to come by but it’s painful to watch scenes with them given how bad it is.
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I'm a strong defender of Season 7 and I still think it's the best post-Trinity (and post change of showrunner).
Now get ready for the clusterfuck :biggrin:
As I said: don't expect every single episode to horribly suck. It's just that there's never the "oh boy, shit is really gonna go down" like one has during the last season of Breaking Bad, and the ending is just :facepalm:
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I'm a strong defender of Season 7 and I still think it's the best post-Trinity (and post change of showrunner).
Seasons 2 is the GOAT season.
Seasons 1,4 & 7 are the good seasons.
Seasons 3 & 5 are the so-so seasons.
Season 6 is the trashy season.
Season 8 is the boring season.
That's how I'd rate them anyway.
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I remember rating them based on Metallica albums :biggrin:
Seasons 1, 2 and 4 are Ride / Master / Justice, the classic stuff.
Season 3 is either Kill 'Em All or the Black Album, not the best but still the golden era.
Seasons 5 and 6 are Load and ReLoad - yeah, subpar, but in retrospect they don't suck THAT much.
Season 7 is Hardwired, who knew that this late in the game they had such a good album (season) in them?
Season 8 is St. Anger. Or Lulu ;D
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Finished!
I will say this......I really enjoyed the series as a whole. S6 was the only season I didn’t really care for, it was boring and just a horrible idea for the ‘bad guy’. But I’m glad to have finally watched this.
And, outside of the last 15 minutes of the final episode I really didn’t have a problem with S8. It was clear they were ready to get the show over with but it wasn’t the huge pile of crap i had heard so much about. But maybe having the luxury of binge watching it removed some of the disappointment I had heard about.
I’ll probably have more to say but I’m tired. Just watched 7 episodes to close it out :lol
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The way they end the series was really bad. I get they were in search of a reason for Dexter to not be allowed to have a ‘happily ever after’ ending......he was a freaking serial killer after all.....but killing off Deb sucked. I was fine with him abandoning Hanna and Harrison, but Deb dying sucked. I felt like her character deserved better.
I’m interested to see this new season they’re going to do. Whether it’s a return to Miami and thing’s familiar or if it’s a semi reboot.
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I'm all for a semi reboot that erases the lumberjack ending.
It was the wrong Morgan sibling that died. Dexter should have been caught. The other characters should have known the truth and, in the hand of a brilliant writer, it would have been EPIC to see people we followed for 8 years confronting him in jail and asking him why, how he could betray them after all this time etc..... his coworkers, Angel, Masuka, Rita's children who didn't even come back for the final season....
I don't know how I woud have ended it, but I would have made Dexter give up his life to protect someone, possibly Debra. Until he was the perfect monster, he was untraceable. The unstoppable killing machine. The more and more he became humanized, the cracks started to show. The complete opposite of a sociopath monster without emotions that is unstoppable at killing would be him losing his life for the most human thing to do, sacrifice yourself for a loved person. He should have been exposed for both his natures, the human one and the monstrous one.
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I'm all for a semi reboot that erases the lumberjack ending.
It was the wrong Morgan sibling that died. Dexter should have been caught. The other characters should have known the truth and, in the hand of a brilliant writer, it would have been EPIC to see people we followed for 8 years confronting him in jail and asking him why, how he could betray them after all this time etc..... his coworkers, Angel, Masuka, Rita's children who didn't even come back for the final season....
I don't know how I woud have ended it, but I would have made Dexter give up his life to protect someone, possibly Debra. Until he was the perfect monster, he was untraceable. The unstoppable killing machine. The more and more he became humanized, the cracks started to show. The complete opposite of a sociopath monster without emotions that is unstoppable at killing would be him losing his life for the most human thing to do, sacrifice yourself for a loved person. He should have been exposed for both his natures, the human one and the monstrous one.
Totally agree. It was too ‘nice’ of an ending for him. He basically got off scott free and everyone that knew and loved him either died because of him or now is in grief over him ‘dying’
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One tiny thing I save from the ending, is the sublte realization of.... aaah, forgot his name. Guy who replaced Doakes in season 3 and has been there ever since, and that was involved with Debra. When Dexter killed discount Ryan Gosling with a pen and he was viewing the footage over with Angel, he stressed that it was self defense but his face indicated otherwise. He totally realized that Dexter did it on purpouse, and maybe realized that Dexter was capable of even more - he just didn't care, he wanted revenge for Deb. But I'm sure he realized that Dexter planned it carefully.
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One tiny thing I save from the ending, is the sublte realization of.... aaah, forgot his name. Guy who replaced Doakes in season 3 and has been there ever since, and that was involved with Debra. When Dexter killed discount Ryan Gosling with a pen and he was viewing the footage over with Angel, he stressed that it was self defense but his face indicated otherwise. He totally realized that Dexter did it on purpouse, and maybe realized that Dexter was capable of even more - he just didn't care, he wanted revenge for Deb. But I'm sure he realized that Dexter planned it carefully.
Yep. Noticed that. He completely caught on that Dexter set him up. Then he said he wished he could have been the one to do it.
I think an interesting premise for the new 10 episodes would be for him or Batista to randomly be turned on to evidence of Dexter being not who he said he was. Then hunting him down so to speak. I’ll be disappointed if it’s just another 10 episodes of Dexter ‘outsmarting’ people a f getting lucky not getting caught.
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I guess the writers burned themselves with season 2. On one hand, I applaud them from going all the way in - it was ballsy to not dumb down Doakes and pile up on his suspicions (I remember reading interviews where they stated esplicity this, "It wouldn't be fair to have Doakes continue to be suspicious for 5 seasons and not acting on it"), and making him discover Dexter as the Bay Harbor butcher. But in insight, that should have been the endgame.
Still, they managed to go back to it with Season 7, and blew it all out. I thought LaGuerta's death would have made at least someone scratch their heads - Dexter is the perfect guy, everyone's buddy and bro, and yet his wife was killed by Trinity and now LaGuerta dies as well. Batista should have been the one to think about it, all it took was a "hey, seriously: why not?" moment, maybe an off hand joke from Masuka, to make the gears in his head starts running. Out of the remaining characters, our good friend Batista deserved to be the one to bring Dexter down. Problem is that Dexter was so tactically overpowered, that nobody would have been able to outsmart him, at least out of the cast. But someone deserved to discover him.
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I agree about Doakes. Plus, he was a cool character. I’d liked to have seen Deb not discover Dexter until the final season and have been the one to either lock him up or kill him. Maybe the last scene being her dumping his body into the ocean.....as if she figured it out but didn’t want others to know.
Nonetheless.....a very enjoyable series and I’m looking forward to see what/how they approach the story now.
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Ah yes, the series finale, aka "Surprise! You've been watching 8 seasons of origin story for the Brawny man"
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Yep, when they saw the footage of Dexter killing Saxon, Quinn totally gave that glance like, "I knew it all along," but he was so thrilled that Deb's killer had been murdered, I don't think he cared all that much in the moment.
I, for one, am looking forward to the reboot. The return of the original showrunner (the guy who ran it from 1-4) means we are likely to get a better and more proper ending. I could see Jennifer Carpenter returning to play the same role the father did all along, as a vision Dexter is constantly in communication with in his subconscious. Or maybe they will pull a Dallas and pretend that seasons 5-8 never happened and they will pick up right after Rita's death. Haha, if only.
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Or maybe they will pull a Dallas and pretend that seasons 5-8 never happened and they will pick up right after Rita's death. Haha, if only.
Sign me up for that!
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Or maybe they will pull a Dallas and pretend that seasons 5-8 never happened and they will pick up right after Rita's death. Haha, if only.
Sign me up for that!
Show Dexter leaving a mental institution years later after having suffering a breakdown from Rita’s death.....everything since has been a delusion.
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The new season of Dexter begins tonight.
I am cautiously optimistic. I cannot say I am thrilled about the look of the show being so different (going from warm and sunny Miami to cold and dark NY), but I am sure Michael C. Hall will be awesome as always and make this worthwhile if nothing else.
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Or maybe they will pull a Dallas and pretend that seasons 5-8 never happened and they will pick up right after Rita's death. Haha, if only.
Sign me up for that!
Show Dexter leaving a mental institution years later after having suffering a breakdown from Rita’s death.....everything since has been a delusion.
It's not like everything was to throw away after that.
Season 5 was dark and heavy, but compelling. I totally see Dexter teaming up with a victim of abuse.
Season 6 had that weird thing with Deb falling for him, but the discovery was a long time coming.
Season 7 was great, actually, and the fallout of the discovery was well played and the climax with Laguerta was the heartbreaking conclusion.
It's Season 8 that got it all wrong, Dexter had to be discovered, we should have seen the reaction of all people finding out about him. One of the soundtrack songs for the teasers of the final season was a Blue Saraceno cover of Johnny Cash's "God's gonna cut you down", with lines such as "You can run for a long time, you can run for a long time, sooner or later God's gonna cut you down", there was more foreboding and tension in those lyrics than in the entire actual season.
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Who else is keeping up with this? Five episodes in, and it is good, but not great.
Deb yelling her head off non-stop as his Dark Passenger is annoying, and I could do without the cliched characters (the lady podcaster and the clueless cop with the awful 'stache), but Michael C. Hall is phenomenal as always, and Clancy Brown is doing a really good job thus far as well.
And it is starting to get good given the way the last episode ended.
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Letting them build up then gonna jam it all out at once.
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I kinda enjoy the new Doakes lol Next episode is gonna be super interesting based on the cliffhanger they left us with. I've been super annoyed with Dexter going after the drug dudes. He knew the cops were on the trail, so stupid to try to go after them.
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That episode last night gave me anxiety. :lol
Sadly, I suspect this season ends with Dexter being killed at the hands of his own son. Harrison's violent side has been on full display, and I suspect the Kurt storyline plays out in a way where the new bound between father and son is fractured and Harrison will blame his own father for being the way he is and kills him.
That is my theory and I am sticking to it.
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That episode last night gave me anxiety. :lol
Sadly, I suspect this season ends with Dexter being killed at the hands of his own son. Harrison's violent side has been on full display, and I suspect the Kurt storyline plays out in a way where the new bound between father and son is fractured and Harrison will blame his own father for being the way he is and kills him.
That is my theory and I am sticking to it.
The ending is being touted as shocking but inevitable. If Harrison doesn't kill Dexter, maybe Dexter kills Harrison. I hope neither of these things happens as the prospect of future seasons is enticing.
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That episode last night gave me anxiety. :lol
Sadly, I suspect this season ends with Dexter being killed at the hands of his own son. Harrison's violent side has been on full display, and I suspect the Kurt storyline plays out in a way where the new bound between father and son is fractured and Harrison will blame his own father for being the way he is and kills him.
That is my theory and I am sticking to it.
The ending is being touted as shocking but inevitable. If Harrison doesn't kill Dexter, maybe Dexter kills Harrison. I hope neither of these things happens as the prospect of future seasons is enticing.
As much as I'd like to see more, I am fine with this mini-series being the end, and from the way they talked, I think this is it.
1 episode left. Saw today's On Demand already.
(spoilers below for anyone who has not watched Ep 9 today)
I am glad they wrapped up one storyline already, so we can get to the good stuff next week as Angela figures it all out and we get Dexter's demise, which feels inevitable.
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It does feel inevitable now. His demise should have happened at the end of the original series. That felt like the only justifiable outcome back then.
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FINALE SPOILER
DO NOT KEEP READING IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT YET
Well, my theory was pretty correct for the most part, damn it.
I always thought the original series should have ended Dexter either a) being exposed, or b) dying.
Here, we got both.
I won't say this ending was great, but it was good. Definitely a lot better than what we got in Season 8 of the original series, although almost no one will call this one of the best endings ever. It was good, and considering what they had to come back from and work with, they did probably as good as could be expected.
R.I.P. Dexter Morgan.
And kudos again to Michael C. Hall for not only an amazing performance in this finale, but for nine seasons of playing this dark character in such a brilliant way.
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FINALE SPOILER
DO NOT KEEP READING IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT YET
Well, my theory was pretty correct for the most part, damn it.
I always thought the original series should have ended Dexter either a) being exposed, or b) dying.
Here, we got both.
I won't say this ending was great, but it was good. Definitely a lot better than what we got in Season 8 of the original series, although almost no one will call this one of the best endings ever. It was good, and considering what they had to come back from and work with, they did probably as good as could be expected.
R.I.P. Dexter Morgan.
And kudos again to Michael C. Hall for not only an amazing performance in this finale, but for nine seasons of playing this dark character in such a brilliant way.
*SPOILERS*
I agree, the original series should have ended with his death, but then we wouldn't have gotten this bonus season, which was pretty well done.
I was expecting see Batista show up after the phone call, and have a final encounter with Dexter. I’m disappointed that didn't happen.
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I'm content with this ending except for Harrison driving off. Wouldn't cops, FBI, girlfriend, etc, look for him? Jim Lindsay's truck? Just seems like a lot of loose ends to me.
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I agree, the original series should have ended with his death, but then we wouldn't have gotten this bonus season, which was pretty well done.
I was expecting see Batista show up after the phone call, and have a final encounter with Dexter. I’m disappointed that didn't happen.
Agreed. I thought that was the one spot where they dropped the ball. They teased a Dexter/Batista face to face and then it didn't happen.
I'm content with this ending except for Harrison driving off. Wouldn't cops, FBI, girlfriend, etc, look for him? Jim Lindsay's truck? Just seems like a lot of loose ends to me.
Who would they be looking for him that quickly? Angela called it in as an office-related shooting (and I think she said she would say it was self defense), and she is in charge there in that small town, so unless she or that nimrod cop with the bad 'stache calls Harrison to tell him about the death of his father (which we know she will not do since she told him to leave town and she'd likely lie and tell the other cop that she will call Harrison), no one would be attempting to reach Harrison that quickly except maybe his girlfriend, and it is likely he would just keep driving and not answer. Now, whether or not Angela can sell her story and if forensics backs it up is another story (does the blood spatter and the distance from which he was shot support self defense?), but that is something they wouldn't figure out right away anyway.
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I agree, the original series should have ended with his death, but then we wouldn't have gotten this bonus season, which was pretty well done.
I was expecting see Batista show up after the phone call, and have a final encounter with Dexter. I’m disappointed that didn't happen.
Agreed. I thought that was the one spot where they dropped the ball. They teased a Dexter/Batista face to face and then it didn't happen.
I'm content with this ending except for Harrison driving off. Wouldn't cops, FBI, girlfriend, etc, look for him? Jim Lindsay's truck? Just seems like a lot of loose ends to me.
Who would they be looking for him that quickly? Angela called it in as an office-related shooting (and I think she said she would say it was self defense), and she is in charge there in that small town, so unless she or that nimrod cop with the bad 'stache calls Harrison to tell him about the death of his father (which we know she will not do since she told him to leave town and she'd likely lie and tell the other cop that she will call Harrison), no one would be attempting to reach Harrison that quickly except maybe his girlfriend, and it is likely he would just keep driving and not answer. Now, whether or not Angela can sell her story and if forensics backs it up is another story (does the blood spatter and the distance from which he was shot support self defense?), but that is something they wouldn't figure out right away anyway.
I think the Harrison stuff for me ties into that same forensics stuff. The truck and its tire treads, how did that gun get to the scene, etc. Just lots of holes.
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I think the Harrison stuff for me ties into that same forensics stuff. The truck and its tire treads, how did that gun get to the scene, etc. Just lots of holes.
Perhaps, but I would contend that loose ends like that are largely irrelevant, as I think the bigger picture takeaway from the finale is a) Dexter finally got what he deserved, and b) Harrison got closure and is free to live his life now free of his father.
I also don't think it can be overstated how good a job both Julia Jones and Jack Alcott did this season. Great casting for both characters.
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I think the Harrison stuff for me ties into that same forensics stuff. The truck and its tire treads, how did that gun get to the scene, etc. Just lots of holes.
Perhaps, but I would contend that loose ends like that are largely irrelevant, as I think the bigger picture takeaway from the finale is a) Dexter finally got what he deserved, and b) Harrison got closure and is free to live his life now free of his father.
I also don't think it can be overstated how good a job both Julia Jones and Jack Alcott did this season. Great casting for both characters.
For sure, like I said I'm content with this finale. The end to Dexter's story this time was much better than a fucking lumberjack.
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For sure, like I said I'm content with this finale. The end to Dexter's story this time was much better than a fucking lumberjack.
Yawp. I re-watched the finale again last night and it was better the second time (and I liked it the first time). I plan to re-watch the entire season again as well to see if maybe there was some stuff I missed and to see how it holds up binge-style. :coolio :coolio
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Definitely happy with this serving as the end of Dexter over what we got in season 8 of the main series. Still nothing close to the greatness of the first four seasons, but a fine enough send-off (as far as quality).
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I finally caught up with the new series and really enjoyed it. I'm kinda surprised the hatred the finale is getting, I thought it ended as logically as it could. People are nitpicking some details like how can a little small time cop figure it out etc.. but I don't know I really loved the finale.
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I finally caught up with the new series and really enjoyed it. I'm kinda surprised the hatred the finale is getting, I thought it ended as logically as it could. People are nitpicking some details like how can a little small time cop figure it out etc.. but I don't know I really loved the finale.
I actually love that it was a small town cop lol
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I finally caught up with the new series and really enjoyed it. I'm kinda surprised the hatred the finale is getting, I thought it ended as logically as it could. People are nitpicking some details like how can a little small time cop figure it out etc.. but I don't know I really loved the finale.
I am seeing more positive than negative feedback, although it seems every troll in the world when to imdb.com to give the episode a bad rating. These are usually the people who are pissed because they considered Dexter (ya know, the serial killer) their hero and are mad that he was killed. That of course does not apply to everyone, but I have to question the sense of anyone who thinks this ending was on the same level (or even lower) than Remember the Monsters? No, Sunday's finale wasn't Breaking Bad or Six Feet Under finale quality (see: super awesome finales), but it was good.
Bottom line: people on the internet can really suck sometimes. :lol :lol